Bannon's War Room - Episode 2503： Rebuttal To The SOTU The Failed Offense Of The War In Ukraine

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.100 these people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people

00:00:16.540 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.440 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do

00:00:23.820 people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these

00:00:31.540 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to

00:00:39.100 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k man

00:00:46.940 okay um it's wednesday 8 february year of our lord 2023 it's the morning after uh i don't even know

00:00:57.580 what you call this thing last night right um just the lies and misrepresentations and our enemies

00:01:04.520 uh throughout the world in beijing right now they got to be laughing it's a disgrace i want to get

00:01:10.500 some sense of this congressman ralph norman george i tell you what congressman thank you for joining us

00:01:14.900 i want to play can we start with the nancy pelosi clip it goes forever but i just want to give a

00:01:18.580 taste of it and then get your observations we won't ask that question um it is fascinating that

00:01:27.700 republicans only seem nice i speak as a former republican republicans only seem to care about

00:01:33.560 the debt and the deficit when there's a democrat in the white house i had no problem raising the

00:01:39.060 debt ceiling when donald trump yeah we did three times when he was uh we had three

00:01:44.280 encounters you know right had different results but here's the thing um we i'm a big pay as you go

00:01:51.660 person pay go sometimes i get heat from my own caucus on that you want something we either substitute

00:01:57.460 or pay for it the republicans are pay go except when they want to give tax cuts to the rich right

00:02:03.780 then they don't want to pay for them so that's a big chunk of the trump debt yeah that has been

00:02:10.020 increased so they don't want to pay for that right but and and that is congressman norman i got to ask

00:02:19.780 you um nancy pelosi and your association with your years is she a pay as you go is that just an 0.69

00:02:26.080 outright bald-faced lie sir steve not only is it a bald-faced lie it is pay go in she and her 0.55

00:02:32.880 husband's pocket particularly with stock trades i mean the lady is a complete fraud the only thing she 1.00

00:02:37.580 didn't do is is rip her her dress off and throw it up like and throw it away like she did the speech 1.00

00:02:43.740 from donald j trump it doesn't surprise me but she's totally clueless uh every time i see her hands

00:02:49.940 and all her theatrics it's a uh she's a complete embarrassment and um you know it's more of the 1.00

00:02:56.680 same it doesn't surprise me be more to come and for her to be announced on the house floor by

00:03:01.400 this fraud of a president that she's going to go down as one of the best speakers 1.00

00:03:04.860 in the history of the country really unbelievable

00:03:08.220 congressman you've been in fact you were one of the mighty 20 that that changed the direction of

00:03:15.660 the whole country and and you did it and you said hey i didn't know if kevin was serious about

00:03:20.420 getting to a balanced budget given where we are given what you heard last night given the gulf

00:03:26.580 between the bid and the ask here on even beginning a dialogue in a negotiation on on the debt ceiling

00:03:33.600 where where does ralph norman think we are sir and how do you think we get to the goals that you set

00:03:39.000 out first of all let me just say i'm gonna give you what what was good about the speech last night

00:03:45.580 that speech by that man should unify every conservative all across this country against

00:03:52.960 anything he tries to do uh that's the good part uh now uh you're exactly right to me the you know

00:04:01.180 economic security is national security and the reason the five of us and then as it got to the 20

00:04:08.180 did what we did is because uh if we if we're bankrupt you cannot operate a small business a

00:04:14.920 lemon stand much less a country so what we're going to do is is start the trajectory down uh of spending

00:04:22.680 we've got a spending problem and kevin mccarthy while initially he was putting us on a 20-year

00:04:29.520 time frame we don't have 20 years this country cannot go another 20 years like has happened uh under

00:04:36.200 particularly the democrats and republicans as well so what you will see over the next couple of weeks

00:04:41.860 is a framework of a budget that actually cuts and uh the the democrats they can throw out social

00:04:48.380 security all they want is i mean that's their whipping boy granny's going over the cliff republicans 1.00

00:04:53.440 leading the way and we're going to dispel that and uh now i get we've got to get 218 votes but what we

00:04:59.740 will lay out it's going to have to come from the people up you know that steve i mean it's going to be

00:05:04.340 from the citizens rising up and saying you need to do this and we will point out some of the things

00:05:09.240 that uh we're going to do away with to get this country back on a uh on a sustainable future which

00:05:14.600 it's not on right now congressman norman you're the first one really in this whole the the five days

00:05:21.520 of change america put it out there about getting the the nation's finances and in in in order and the

00:05:28.940 way you do that you got to address spending and you got to address it immediately do you anticipate we put

00:05:33.760 the framework we had russ vote in here to start the show in studio this morning that you will

00:05:38.260 propose in this regular order in the appropriations processes starting this year that there will be

00:05:43.440 meaningful and significant cuts to the administrative state to these programs starting now not not some

00:05:49.680 cap that comes in a couple of years but starting now absolutely it's got to be in writing and russ vote

00:05:55.320 is one of the ones his uh his budget which was a seven-year budget that i follow and one that we

00:06:02.040 will use as we move forward and you know it's not that difficult look at the wokeism that's being

00:06:08.760 funded all across this country look at the green new deal that the taxpayers dollars are being uh spent

00:06:14.280 on so we're going to lay that out agency by agency in the 12 appropriations bill and we're not going to

00:06:19.680 give them the luxury of putting us in a box like they did uh in in december where so many people voted

00:06:27.320 where the senate locked our hand handcuffed us till september on uh that omnibus bill so we'll face

00:06:34.520 it head on and uh we'll see how we come out but i'm very optimistic we've we've got everybody on board

00:06:40.600 as far as uh the conservatives and uh we've got finally and i think kevin will promote it because

00:06:47.080 that's one of the things he committed to his his is 10 years but uh we're going to actually do it but we

00:06:52.520 got to do more than just we got to show it where we're cutting everything should be on the table

00:06:57.180 congressman russ made a comment i like your thoughts and they said look for too long

00:07:04.260 the the republican party up here has always looked how to dismount how to how to just take a defeat

00:07:10.700 that you need a bold uh turn and focus on big ideas and ideas we're getting back up and going to win

00:07:18.000 on are you seeing this the mindset change because this is going to come from political will and

00:07:23.920 toughness and the ability to grind this through are you seeing that right now do you think we have

00:07:28.880 that will and that toughness up here among that core group that we can power this through sir

00:07:34.420 every everybody is a conservative until it cuts their particular program in their particular district

00:07:39.360 in their particular state now there is a there is a difference i mean those of us who have been

00:07:45.700 in the business arena uh you negotiate you don't take the first you don't settle and i guess the

00:07:51.460 biggest thing i would message i would send we're not going to settle now we're going to actually have

00:07:56.220 real cuts uh and we're going to lay it out and the american people are going to have to bring

00:08:00.480 those who are not used to the rough and tumble of a you know of a of a deal uh and not just words if

00:08:09.760 if all we're going to do is is have words and shuffle the deck and still end up the same result

00:08:15.060 that's not going to work but now you know we've got 20 of us that are still available uh if we don't

00:08:21.440 get that we will hold out until we do and i'm sick and tired of well what we heard last night was just

00:08:27.300 words that wasn't even uh there were lies and words and we republicans have got to back it up if we

00:08:32.400 don't have the steel if we don't have the toughness we're going to have to get it and we've got a short

00:08:36.400 time to do it congressman how can people follow you on this because this is the this is going to

00:08:42.640 be the main event how do people uh get to know you better and how they get to follow you

00:08:46.240 rep ralph norman.com uh follow me on social media twitter and uh we're going to uh lay it out there

00:08:53.820 in the next couple of weeks i think the american people like what they see and it's common sense

00:08:57.980 what things that we're going to cut regulations have to go with that too steve we can't just i mean

00:09:03.440 we've got so many other things energy independence that need to go to get this country back but

00:09:07.460 it's right now it's spending on programs that should have been sunsetted a long time ago

00:09:11.720 and i think you will see us do that and we got to have the will to carry it through

00:09:15.960 well this audience uh the most massive audience of activists in the country

00:09:22.360 one thousand percent have your back from the very first time you came on i mean it was like water to

00:09:27.380 people in the desert so just just let us know when they're at the ramparts and ready to have

00:09:33.120 play back your play at any time so the next uh couple of weeks and months are going to be quite

00:09:38.320 uh uh um enlightening about the fight we got ahead of us sir so honored to have you on here

00:09:44.340 my honor thank you thank you sir congressman ralph norman from south carolina has been at the tip of

00:09:51.920 this and the leadership of this this is why we wanted to start today with with vote and lou dobbs and um

00:09:57.260 and um and people like norman serious people that understand the crisis we're in no more happy talk

00:10:04.160 this and by the way it's going to be a fight remember you're the chairman of the creditors

00:10:08.480 committee you're the full faith and credit of this nation it depends upon you it rests on your shoulders

00:10:12.580 and this is going to be a fight because this is about money and it's about power um do we have uh

00:10:18.940 do we have matt up and let's get matt schlap from say hey matt we've had all morning talk about this

00:10:24.880 fight over uh spending over the debt ceiling the things that came up last night it couldn't be a

00:10:30.380 better time to to have cpac rolling along because they're going to be presenting these budgets in the

00:10:36.280 next couple of weeks give us an update on cpac i see some of the great new speakers you've got up

00:10:40.580 but walk people through people are getting stoked now because understand we got to fire off the

00:10:45.120 football to change the direction of this country sir well a couple of things first of all i give

00:10:49.720 you credit for all these announcements coming out you know cpac is a big ordeal it's millions of

00:10:55.000 dollars to put it on and we want to strike the right tone and uh so we're kind of like fiddling

00:10:59.920 with the agenda as we go but we in the last uh 48 hours you can really see the tenor of the people

00:11:04.580 that are coming and look the there's two themes here the first theme is we got a little power back

00:11:09.540 in washington we got to reclaim our capital and part of that is now that we have the house of

00:11:15.980 representatives constitutionally that's the power of the purse we've got to have the republican party

00:11:21.040 say we've actually got only two powers we can subpoena people through the government reform

00:11:25.540 committee and that's congressman james comer who's going to really really become a very important

00:11:29.960 person in our country the second thing is the power of the purse and this is why this speaker fight

00:11:35.280 was so critical and ralph norman i just love that man i love him as a human being and i love him as

00:11:39.520 a leader because we have to fundamentally change through threats if necessary the fact that the

00:11:45.960 republican party will finally use the power of the purse for the first time substantially since 1995

00:11:50.920 and the failure the perceived failure of the government shutdown of newt gingrich and the gang back

00:11:56.060 then we have we we feel like that's a loser to try to fight on money and and it's not because if we

00:12:02.180 don't fight who will we're going to lose the country and i think today's republican uh... who

00:12:07.600 has gotten elected to congress gets the fact that we have to change our process and use that power

00:12:12.180 if the leadership doesn't use the power of the purse on the debt extension and the budget and a couple of

00:12:18.780 these must-pass things there's going to be a new leadership and they are i steve i'm telling you they

00:12:23.760 a hundred percent understand that

00:12:25.280 you know it's serendipity because uh you've decided because of the the covet situation you

00:12:31.800 went to florida you went to texas these things were fantastic you decided to bring back um cpac

00:12:37.520 to the nation's capital and you see last night ralph norman's uh opening with us was quite uh i thought

00:12:44.020 um brilliant if you want to see what to unify around biden did it last night with that speech and

00:12:49.560 you couldn't have a better kickoff to this to bring everybody together to really get together

00:12:53.720 have an open talk a partner's discussion and then fire up the football after the first couple of days

00:12:59.320 of march who when you say that strike the tenor and the type of speaker what are the themes the

00:13:04.400 things you're going to be talking about like the workshops and then the personalities who's coming

00:13:09.520 and what are we going to be talking about i'll break a little news on war room my favorite place

00:13:14.400 to break it because i literally get like the text early in the morning from bannon saying come on

00:13:18.800 man what do we got to talk about today there's so much and i've been a little slow on the switch so

00:13:23.440 i gotta gotta make up for that but uh jd vance is coming uh which i think is critically all right

00:13:29.040 he's a very important new voice in the senate we have a whole slew of senators coming by the way the

00:13:33.840 right ones uh we announced ted cruz within the last 24 hours we have laura trump coming from the

00:13:40.100 great state of north carolina she's got a bright future team trump seems to be fully embracing cpac

00:13:45.920 which won't surprise you um and uh although he's got to go make the case as to why he believes he

00:13:51.440 should be the nominee and the next president uh the people of cpac have a sentimental affection for

00:13:56.600 the president because of everything that he did and i think it's going to be a great kind of homecoming

00:14:00.740 for him but there's going to be some of these people that want to take him on which i'm for i'm for

00:14:04.880 letting this process unfold i think if trump is the eventual nominee i think he will be

00:14:09.320 it makes him better to go through that process and you know steel sharpen steel and you say the

00:14:14.740 topics we're going to be on that stage talking about you know what are we doing in ukraine uh is

00:14:19.880 this going to lead to uh a greater conflagration in nuclear war republicans are of two minds you

00:14:25.740 have some republicans that are like fun fun fun you got other republicans that are saying

00:14:29.340 this is a danger we're going to talk about that on the stage we have some people that are

00:14:33.100 detransitioning from this whole craziness of the gender battles that you know they're using to

00:14:38.460 indoctrinate our kids that's going to be on this stage those people are going to be talking we're

00:14:42.820 going to have what's the right way to handle pro-life now that we have the dobbs decision all this will

00:14:47.300 be on the stage matt matt can you hang on one second we're taking a short break matt schlapp

00:14:52.480 head of cpac uh joins us on the other side

00:14:55.580 despite the u.s blowing through 31.4 trillion dollar debt ceiling in january the leftist white house still

00:15:06.600 refuses to reduce spending while our national leadership has buried their heads in the sand

00:15:11.740 when it comes to fiscal responsibility it's time to pull yours out think about this to dig our country

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00:16:28.060 back

00:16:28.500 yeah uh we're gonna we're gonna have on there's a bunch of breaking news out of ukraine

00:16:37.280 uh zelinski's in london as president so we're gonna have posobik darren beady and ben harnwell

00:16:42.820 ben harnwell from rome join us momentarily you know matt um it was really we're gonna be there

00:16:49.380 with a full not just entourage we're gonna do the show and it's really about popular demand our our

00:16:54.240 audience had come to us in the chats and everything like that the ones that made it to dallas had such

00:17:00.740 an incredible time and that's really kind of where with real america's voice we perfected the first time

00:17:05.440 we really did the live audience participation uh we did it later with charlie kirk and the guys but

00:17:10.240 that's where we really started and uh people loved it so much and even people that couldn't make it

00:17:14.840 said hey just looking at it wish i'd come that's what we're going to do at cpac we're going to have

00:17:18.280 a whole full do the show audience participation go to cpac.org slash worm right now you get 47

00:17:24.040 off the ticket and i guarantee you you're going to have camaraderie and meet people and talk about

00:17:29.360 issues but you're going to leave there and not just be the most interesting person at the dinner parties

00:17:35.000 you go to when you get back home you're going to be one of the leaders of this movement

00:17:39.100 because this is all about the people and you just heard ralph norman and russ vote on here say hey

00:17:43.900 we're going to need the war room posse up on it coming the next couple of months and that's why

00:17:49.000 cpac's so important um carrie lake's going to be there is there any other carrie and that that sets 1.00

00:17:54.340 i think a tempo uh when you got jd vance you got carrie lake you can see the direction of this thing

00:17:59.100 any other and by the way russ that that we should russ and ralph too are going to be there so like you

00:18:04.440 know you it's going to almost be like war room is going to be going on in the in the hallway and

00:18:09.540 then war room is going to be on the stage steve because the people jack is going to be there uh

00:18:14.060 you know this is you're having the conversations that are taking place in living rooms around this

00:18:19.120 country these are the issues people care about and some of them are somewhat controversial

00:18:23.220 within the conservative movement the america first movement the republican party how far aggressive

00:18:28.980 should the congress be should we be talking about things like gender confusion in our kids you know

00:18:34.520 is marjorie taylor green right to have a bill to prevent them from giving our kids these chemicals 1.00

00:18:39.100 sometimes without the parents even knowledge and we're on that bill we think she's got it pitch

00:18:43.980 perfect we're going to hear from these people that are victims of this ideology you know the left tries

00:18:48.320 to act like they care about people and they're tolerant and as we all know we've come to realize some of us

00:18:53.180 later than others it's bs it's not because they're more compassionate it's because they have a

00:18:58.020 maniacal ideological view of america where they want to rip her down and build her up in this 0.99

00:19:05.900 monstrous way and kids are being slaughtered through abortion and kids are being destroyed 0.70

00:19:11.160 through our schools and crt and this gender confusion if we can't make this fight if we can't

00:19:16.740 stand up for that unborn child give them a chance to breathe and to live and we can't protect our kids 0.94

00:19:21.860 at their tender at their tender ages and what are we here for

00:19:25.060 you know um just you having the um the detransition people up on main stage is going to have the 1.00

00:19:36.000 mainstream media completely melt down trust me that'll make you know and i didn't have time to

00:19:40.620 play it but you had this demonic thing at the grammys the other night brought to you by pfizer and then

00:19:44.520 joy and reid and we haven't had a chance to do we're going to do it in the next couple days

00:19:47.880 because of pressing concerns of all this other stuff is that joy and reid came on the next day

00:19:52.420 and she spiked the football she said hey we're winning the culture wars you guys got nothing

00:19:56.780 and you guys have lost you got to understand your loss that's why i think cpac is so important

00:20:01.300 particularly on this on the whole thing of woke and weaponized you made a comment when you're on the

00:20:05.840 other day and i i would be remiss if i didn't bring it up in the fact that the the the liberal media

00:20:10.720 progressive media absolutely vapor locked i want to make sure the audience got the subtlety of it

00:20:14.780 you said hey i'm gonna go full hungarian that meant victor orban and we love victor orban in fact

00:20:20.040 had a chance to meet him again at cpac dallas uh the war and posse loved his speech i i think

00:20:26.300 in all the great speeches that were given in dallas his was the the the landmark what did you mean by

00:20:33.100 you're going to be victor orban uh for this cpac what what does that mean i said we're going to go

00:20:37.760 full hungarian which is we learned when we went to to hungary for cpac steve that you had all this

00:20:43.360 european media that thought that it was weird that we would have flown over rome and paris and

00:20:49.200 all these other great capitals to go to this little country hungary with someone they consider a fascist

00:20:54.920 leader like there must be something nefarious why would anybody want to go to hungary we went to

00:20:58.980 hungary and realized these people are wonderful people uh that uh are are have a have a great story

00:21:04.160 to tell and the hungarians who ran the conference said look if you're a fake journalist that just wants

00:21:09.120 to lie about victor orban and what we're trying to do from a policy standpoint why don't you just

00:21:13.760 not come in the doors and i was like well that's a terrible thing at cpac in america we let everyone

00:21:17.380 in and i you know i've even realized even recently it's like there are some media outlets in this

00:21:22.900 country i don't know who funds them by the way i think that's the next step to start asking

00:21:26.540 that they are interested not in being any member of the media they're just in to destroying as many

00:21:31.980 steve bannons as many people uh associated with cpac as as many people like donald trump as they

00:21:37.660 possibly can that's not being immediate that's being a political organization and they need to

00:21:42.780 be treated that way why would we give the dnc media passes to come to the to cpac we wouldn't so these

00:21:49.260 people are just basically arms of the dnc maybe even arms of the regime in beijing maybe even arms of

00:21:55.620 other enemies across the globe like george soros and others and the world economic forum and guess what

00:22:00.760 uh we're not going to treat them in the same way that we've treated them in the past it's time for

00:22:04.920 us to get smarter and if i'm slow to the game uh i won't be anymore i'll tell you that much

00:22:09.740 amen uh one more time matt where can people go uh you can go to cpac.org slash war room to get

00:22:17.160 your discount but find out more even about cpac where do people go yeah just go to our website

00:22:21.680 conservative.org cpac.org see all the speakers that are that are coming uh you really won't want to

00:22:27.920 miss it but let me just say this one final thing if we have a big crowd at cpac and if we send the

00:22:33.500 message that we haven't given up on the nation's capital even though it's got a perfectly terrible

00:22:38.360 mayor and pelosi and gang have been running things for too long if we send that message you give so

00:22:43.500 much hope to so many people and then you as an individual you're feeling despondent you wonder what

00:22:47.460 can you do to save your country if you come to this event i guarantee you you're going to leave so

00:22:51.960 full of bim and vigor to go out there and make these fights for the country it could actually change 1.00

00:22:56.820 things and that's why we do the conference it's not just about people talking it's about changing

00:23:00.640 the course of history yeah no it's the camaraderie and it's the teamwork that comes out of there and

00:23:06.480 i think you saw that in dallas i just think it's great that it's back in the nation's capital because

00:23:11.060 we need to be here as much as people don't like being around here i can tell you but you got to be

00:23:15.840 here because this is where the fight is matt uh how do they get to you on how do they get to you on

00:23:19.500 social media at m slap uh uh on all the platforms as i told you i'm increasingly liking truth uh that's

00:23:27.820 a good place to be i enjoyed following all the comments on that crazy speech last night i said it

00:23:33.520 was like watching grumpy old men and fast forward it was like i couldn't understand what he was saying

00:23:37.740 but whatever he was saying he was saying it real fast and but and not just that every now and again

00:23:44.360 it was like he he would just like blurt out get off my lawn i mean he would start shouting

00:23:49.320 at the most the bizarre times it was the adder i think they jacked he obviously jacked him up

00:23:54.920 to get through it last night but he was a get off get off my lawn okay match lab thanks look forward

00:24:00.340 to see you cpac march 1st through 4th in the nation's capital okay do i have do i have the ben

00:24:07.000 harnwell let me bring in ben harnwell i got pasoba coming up and beady coming up breaking news out of

00:24:12.720 seymour hirsch the investigative reporter and mudslinger i guess you would call him um the um

00:24:20.220 ben uh zelinski shows up in london today what what make this make sense to me what's going on he's

00:24:27.260 clearly begging for uh materiel uh because he doesn't feel he's getting enough um and he's you

00:24:34.300 know he he was telling about two weeks ago they were going to pivot and go to liberate crimea and

00:24:40.160 now and if you've seen the reporting over the last 24 48 hours the poor folks in bakhmut are

00:24:45.340 just taking it from the russian i think russia's hitting it the russian army's hitting from 12

00:24:49.160 different attack points and just constant shelling non-stop uh give us an update on why is he in

00:24:56.200 london why is he in the city why is he in parliament um well i suppose there's the official reason steve and

00:25:03.500 then there's the um there's the question mark reason the official reason is because uh popular

00:25:09.280 support not at the governmental level that at the level of the people is starting to peter out

00:25:16.180 impatience we're almost coming up to the the one year anniversary of this war um and he therefore

00:25:24.260 um as part of his visit uh to europe going to brussels tomorrow he needs to show up political support

00:25:30.880 um so that the the cash and the armaments continue flowing that said explicit to this request is

00:25:39.260 what he mentioned when he addressed the the joint houses of parliament was that he wanted fighter

00:25:44.940 planes now interestingly the bbc whose analysis is always 100 junkable but whose um whose knowledge of

00:25:54.660 the facts is normally pretty hot they had a journalist i don't know if we're going to be able to play it

00:25:59.620 whilst um whilst i'm here but they had a journalist talking um from outside number 10 downing street

00:26:06.900 uh on a split screen whilst zelensky and his crew were on their raf plane still at the airport at

00:26:14.200 stansted and she said um this journalist she was talking that he that um that rishi sunak has ruled out

00:26:22.180 supplying um fighter planes to kiev now that was that was the big thing that zelensky wants

00:26:29.220 the the u.s has already said no for now so it would appear that that the uk is lining up behind

00:26:34.820 the u.s position here but you know if zelensky was sitting on his plane he he should have just been

00:26:41.420 listening to the bbc realized that the whole thing was pure theater got back on his plane and flown off

00:26:47.620 because you have the joint session i mean it's a very prestigious thing i mean um it's like an uber

00:26:53.580 a state visit thing you know state visits don't always get the joint sessions of parliament he's

00:26:59.740 going to go and uh get his audience with king charles iii so these are very prestigious parts of the

00:27:05.680 visit but it's theater because what what ukraine really needs right now if it is to have a hope

00:27:11.540 of turning the war around are um heavy artillery heavy artillery and fighter planes um and these are

00:27:19.400 the things that seem to be drying up but in in the they also need um it's betwixt and between

00:27:29.320 they won't give them the armaments they feel that that could change and reverse these battlefield

00:27:34.620 losses and that's still to be determined because you know the russia is supposed to be on the edge

00:27:39.720 of defeat and now they've got uh a 500 000 man according to the defense minister who we don't know is in or

00:27:46.980 out in any day because of the zero tolerance on corruption they're now claiming he's one of the

00:27:52.400 worst corrupt guys and with with all the logistics he paid for they paid for it like five times x i'll

00:27:58.280 tell you what a short break got harnwell in rome darren beady's on this jack basobic big breaking news

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00:30:12.740 over march 1st through 4th president trump's going to give the wrap-up speech on the 30th afternoon you

00:30:17.220 want to be there um jack basobic of blockbuster news i got harnwell and darren to change their

00:30:25.340 schedules and also join us walk us through what was released today by seymour hirsch who's kind of a

00:30:29.980 muckraker investigative reporter but he's got no love lost for the uh for the for the right or for

00:30:36.380 the maga movement but he also has no love lost for the uh military industrial complex give us uh your

00:30:42.100 assessment of what he released today kind of a bombshell about the ukraine war well steve it's it's

00:30:47.320 interesting because you know there there's there's the story and then there's the story of the story

00:30:52.300 so there's the story that seymour hirsch has released which essentially in a nutshell is this uh he is

00:30:59.260 claiming based on his sources and his reporting that the united states bombed the nordstream pipelines

00:31:06.500 and that this was done in a covert operation with navy deep sea divers uh particularly divers that are

00:31:14.640 out of panama city from david diving and salvage center not necessarily through socom or jsoc or any of the

00:31:21.300 various uh seal teams that it was done through navy divers and that it specifically references the old

00:31:29.200 story of operation ivy bells that if you understand anything about the navy if you want to go read

00:31:35.320 a i remember when i joined navy intelligence they said something to me that the very first week they

00:31:39.480 said we can't encourage you to read blind man's bluff by sherry sontag they said no matter what you do

00:31:47.040 do not read the book blind man's bluff by sherry sontag do not go to the store this afternoon

00:31:53.720 and pick up a copy of blind man's bluff because one of the main uh stories in it not the only one

00:31:59.060 but the one main operations that they detail in this book which came out at the end of the 90s which

00:32:04.800 goes back to a cold war operation called ivy bells was all about navy deep sea divers and navy

00:32:10.580 submarines going all the way and by the way that one wasn't even in international waters this is back in

00:32:15.400 the 70s during the cold war this was wiretapping the undersea communications the upstream collection

00:32:21.820 that the united states was conducting of the soviet union of the soviet military during the cold war

00:32:27.320 in soviet waters by the way in uh in russian waters right off the kamchatka peninsula and so they

00:32:34.720 seymour hirsch makes a reference to that that says look this is a very similar operation to something

00:32:40.160 that was done back in the cold war any any navy intel officer worth their salt knows about operation

00:32:45.000 ivy bells and in that one steve just as as many other operations go and anyone who's worked in

00:32:49.540 that world understands even the own crew of the ship the crew of the submarine was given a cover

00:32:54.880 story as to why they were out there as to what operations they were conducting and you would

00:32:59.020 compartmentalize all the way down to only specific divers knowing actually what the mission of the

00:33:06.220 submarine was at the time now of course ivy bells this was a it was a multi-mission sequence and

00:33:11.700 there's a huge accident scene where one of the one of the subs is almost caught they have to race out of

00:33:16.160 there in this case what seymour hirsch is stating is that ukraine at the end of the day that ukraine

00:33:22.580 russia germany everything that we're seeing right now wasn't necessarily about freedom and democracy

00:33:28.440 that it was about the united states ensuring the petrodollar's dominance over europe and that's what

00:33:33.780 it's been from the start he references of course victorian newland who made the comment

00:33:37.460 that if this kicks off nordstrom 2 will end one way or the other president biden of course we have

00:33:44.080 him saying that he would shut down nordstrom 2 if putin and russia continue their invasion of ukraine

00:33:51.540 we have him of course at his word saying that and what hirsch is saying here and the comment i made

00:33:57.280 earlier about the story behind the story is the timing on this is very interesting because i've heard

00:34:03.400 people say that this is a you know this is designed to hurt biden but i've also said heard people say

00:34:07.880 well you know this could have actually been leaked by the administration themselves on the heels of the

00:34:13.200 state of the union to where they can say of course officially they'll deny it they'll deny uh that cia

00:34:18.200 langley had any uh you know any involvement in this whatsoever but maybe they want it out there

00:34:23.200 because they think it makes the president look strong in the face of him completely failing to stand up

00:34:28.540 to the chinese spy uh platform that flew across the continental united states this also time we get

00:34:35.180 bd and hunderwill in here because obviously zelinski's in london today talked to parliament about the about

00:34:41.380 the jets but this also ties together um a supporting thing of this is bennett the former prime minister of

00:34:49.200 israel talking about talking to putin and and when the first days of the war they were first before the

00:34:55.120 war they wanted to have a negotiated deal and zelinski was on board and putin was on board but

00:34:59.340 the u.s was not on board that would play into this thing about nordstrom too and wanting to make sure

00:35:04.520 that uh that germany and the rest of europe didn't didn't even double down or become more intertwined

00:35:10.560 with the natural gas resources of russia but really dependent upon american lng would that that would fit

00:35:16.960 into this narrative would you agree jack well it would certainly fit into the time frame because

00:35:21.860 what we're told uh going through seymour hirsch's article and i i strongly encourage everyone to

00:35:26.540 read it um you know just like anything else you you have to ask questions about anything you read

00:35:32.000 but as you go through it when they're looking at these ball at the exercise that was given as cover

00:35:37.840 it was called vault ops 22 so that takes place in june the explosion the nordstrom explosion doesn't take

00:35:43.720 place until later in september now if you combine that with what naftali bennett is saying and by the way

00:35:48.700 the germans the norwegians the swedes everyone's come out and said they can't find evidence that

00:35:53.860 russia was behind this thing which if you remember that's what darren and i were saying from the very

00:35:57.800 start because this was as president trump told us russia's leverage over europe this was also an

00:36:03.740 economic deal between the eu and particularly germany and russia which was mutually beneficial for them

00:36:10.360 at the detriment of the united states so with the explosion of nordstrom too you have to ask of

00:36:16.680 course qui bono qui malo who benefits and who suffers so who benefits obviously it's the americans

00:36:22.520 who suffers it's the germans it's everyone that is now at the economic detriment of losing out on that

00:36:28.100 gas and for the people saying that somehow russia benefits from blowing up their own pipeline it just

00:36:33.320 never really made any sense the the it never quite passed the smell test of why they would want to lose

00:36:38.480 a project that they had invested billions and billions of dollars of political and economic capital

00:36:43.900 jack hangar for one second i got to get back to the balloon in the in the non-briefing of the gang

00:36:50.700 eight which right now looks stunning uh darren let me bring you in and then ben darren your assessment

00:36:55.460 and by the way everything in this this is like uh homage to catalonia is such an important book to read

00:37:01.500 um orwell's book because the the whole war is misinformation on both sides right you can't trust

00:37:08.540 anything the russians put out you can't less trust anything the ukrainians or the nato puts out

00:37:13.080 uh but given that uh darren beady you've been all over this topic give us your assessment first

00:37:19.020 assessment of the seymour hirsch of what it means well i loved everything that jack said that was an

00:37:24.340 excellent um excellent report and analysis of the intricacies of it and of course i remember

00:37:31.280 not too long ago jack and i were on here with some kind of stooge representative of the national

00:37:40.220 security state who didn't do a very good job like you know at least you would think these representatives

00:37:45.520 of the intelligence community their job is to be good liars we didn't even have that so it was very

00:37:51.220 clear what the situation was from the beginning the argument never really made sense that it was

00:37:57.500 you know the russians who blew up their own pipeline but what's i think what remains interesting about

00:38:03.580 this is that you know yes it was bad for russian but it was really bad for germany as well and if you

00:38:11.020 read certain parts of the her story it's okay the germans had this new prime minister and he originally

00:38:18.060 paid lip service to this notion that macron was promoting this strategic autonomy that europe was going to

00:38:26.160 gain more independence from us control and that whole conception was entirely shut down and i think it

00:38:35.560 re-invites us to look at this sort of russia ukraine conflict from the lens of really the united states

00:38:43.200 reasserting complete and total dominance over the affairs of europe and in particular of germany because

00:38:50.280 this was very vital thing for the german economy particularly nordstrom too and we just blow it

00:38:56.700 up and it's an open secret within europe that's their way of telegraphing that it's the united states

00:39:02.940 for these european countries to say well there's no evidence it was russia that's their way of saying

00:39:08.040 it's the united states but at the same time they're not you know they're not going to do anything about it

00:39:13.220 and that tells you everything you need to know and so in a geopolitical sense this really kind of

00:39:20.080 reinforces the dominance and hegemony of the united states and in a twisted way even though it was highly

00:39:27.640 risky and and for a number of reasons it shows us that there are still bastions of competence some

00:39:37.100 pockets of competence within the united states i'm somewhat you know impressed that they were able to

00:39:43.080 pull this off even though you know they linked it they leaked it to some you know aging reporters still

00:39:48.920 it's a rare example of competence so the united states again in keeping with earlier discussion of 0.95

00:39:56.300 the indefinite um power of the u.s dollar despite how clownish and ridiculous and in many cases evil 0.68

00:40:05.340 our regime is it has a um counterintuitive robustness that asserts itself in by the way

00:40:15.320 jack and jack and i can vouch for the competence of navy divers right but what and i'm very much for

00:40:22.220 the dollar being the prime reserve currency at least for the foreseeable future would be chaos in this

00:40:26.520 country but i would like to do it by cutting our budget and and shutting down the federal reserve

00:40:31.400 and getting our control over this debt instead of blowing up a uh a natural gas pipeline uh coming

00:40:38.060 into germany so we can sell natural gas at lng and drive prices up here for folks in the united states but

00:40:43.040 hang on steve what's the view from uh it's not cherché la femme it's cherché

00:40:46.740 cherché la petrol cherché la petrol

00:40:49.460 ben harnwell he's in zielinski's in london today with the tin cup looking for fighter jets how does

00:40:58.040 give me your assessment is this is this story more important than zielinski being in london sir

00:41:03.700 yeah it's a lot more important and looking at the timing um from this article it's jack sullivan

00:41:11.340 um jake sullivan is there months before the russians invaded ukraine heading strategy meetings on

00:41:19.400 how they're going to take out uh these pipelines so you know looking back with with the benefit of

00:41:26.420 hindsight you can now start thinking look you remember that that that john mishheimer thesis

00:41:30.980 that he was pushing back in 2014 and and you were talking about this right in the early days of the

00:41:36.860 war where mishheimer said you know what the u.s is doing here what nato is doing here pushing its

00:41:42.940 boundaries up uh to ukraine is walking ukraine down the primrose path to uh to to being invaded by

00:41:51.620 russia and i was sort of saying to myself okay i get i get that i get that but why would nato do this

00:41:58.140 and i sort of landed on the conclusion that okay this is nato seeking a post-war a post-cold war role

00:42:06.200 now it needs a war it needs russia to do something to continue to justify its existence and that's

00:42:11.140 certainly been a consequence of the russian invasion but looking at the dates here looking

00:42:16.260 at the the meersheimer thesis i'm starting to ask myself whether the whole ukraine war

00:42:22.740 encouraged along by nato was simply a pretext for the u.s military industrial context to go in and

00:42:30.820 take out these pipelines jack uh by the way hang on we're taking a short break but so but to that

00:42:38.880 point the new york times have got this incredibly brutal reporting from bakmut they're telling the

00:42:43.840 russian army the rejuvenated russian army is hitting on 12 different attack points and they have a

00:42:48.160 little girl there that's like seven years old one of the last families there

00:42:51.480 is it is are the america as as um bd calls it the american imperial elite are they cold-hearted enough

00:42:59.100 to have started a war that this little girl is going to get shelled like the rest of her city 1.00

00:43:03.540 just so they can control uh gas uh assets going into europe and therefore prop up the petrodollar

00:43:10.780 in the foreseeable future sir steve i'll just say it's it's amazing the trouble that the regime can

00:43:17.300 cause when the petrodollar is on the line and we've seen it before we're seeing it again

00:43:23.260 short commercial break darren beady the founder of revolver jack pasovic from human events daily

00:43:30.240 and our international editor and head of the rome bureau with war room rome ben harnwell all next

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00:45:48.500 america's voice charlie kirk charlie kirk show two hours of populist nationalism served up hot

00:45:53.140 jack posobik um how did they get around a presidential finding on the seymour her on the

00:45:59.000 blowing up or at least he alleges the blowing up by navy divers of north stream team and don't you find

00:46:04.200 it odd as an intelligence officer there's no not as far as we can tell they have not briefed the gang

00:46:09.400 of eight on this uh on the uh on the airship on the ccp spy airship sir well steve once again what

00:46:16.860 they're doing is instead of making smart geopolitical decisions for the direction of our

00:46:21.740 country and trying to work with partners instead they're watching episodes of the west wing and

00:46:27.480 trying to larp their way through the presidency and so you saw this ridiculous speech last night which

00:46:33.820 was basically just ripped off of everything that donald trump said in 2016 on the campaign trail 0.99

00:46:38.980 and they called him a a racist and a misogynist and a nazi and his and a xenophobe for and here comes

00:46:44.920 biden repeating the exact same phrases without of course the rhetorical flourishes of the forgotten 0.59

00:46:50.140 man and america first but i almost thought he was going to end by saying make america great again

00:46:54.980 uh the reason that they didn't have to brief the gang of eight on this is because they kept it outside

00:47:00.320 of the channels that they would have needed to so had this gone through so come had this gone through

00:47:04.400 jsoc then they would have had to brief the gang of eight but because they kept it navy only it would 0.66

00:47:10.440 they actually you know this is exactly what you would see on like season five or season six of

00:47:15.560 the west wing which i never watched before but if you want to understand the biden administration's

00:47:20.380 playbook just go watch that show you can watch it on 1.5x like i do and you will absolutely be able

00:47:26.060 to predict everything they do because they're ripping it from bad aaron sorkin tv scripts where

00:47:31.280 they're going in and saying ah we found a special loophole so we won't have to brief congress and then

00:47:36.320 we'll leak it to see more hirsch and that's going to make us look good and make us look strong in the

00:47:41.100 face of the russians in the face of the chinese balloon and so what they're doing steve is they've

00:47:47.600 been completely divorced from the reality of the american people which is why by the way republicans

00:47:53.560 won the house and why the gang of eight is constituted the way that it is and i hope for sure certain

00:47:58.960 that speaker of house kevin mccarthy as well as this new appointment of matt gates to the weaponization

00:48:05.900 of the federal government committee will actually be able to bring them to some sort of accountability

00:48:11.720 to find out what are they actually doing because these decisions steve they don't just affect the

00:48:17.220 country they don't just affect the people of ukraine they don't just affect the people of germany they

00:48:21.860 affect every single one of us in our families as well jack how do people get to you all of your

00:48:27.760 content and particularly human events daily yeah human events daily of course it's up we've got the

00:48:32.360 sunday show uh today's entire show is going to be at nordstrom no question okay brother that's uh

00:48:38.700 10 o'clock when people can get it here in real america that's right 10 p.m on real maker's voice

00:48:42.640 okay thank you brother and you get him up on autotor he's non-stop uh darren we're going to get you

00:48:49.740 back you got two blockbuster stories on on revolver uh one about these christian commercials and hobby

00:48:56.040 lobby looks like he's in back of them and the meaning and purpose of them because it's big money and

00:49:00.140 they're well they're great they're very dramatic spots and they're on national football league

00:49:05.000 games so somebody's putting up big dollars you've also got this thing about hillary clinton 0.90

00:49:08.540 10-year jail sentence but i want to spend time and do that later your closing thoughts on the seymour

00:49:13.400 hirsch and the whole ukraine situation and zelinski in london sir yeah well first just to add to the

00:49:20.160 technicalities of it there's a part of the hirsch's commentary in which he suggests that the

00:49:25.840 public um allusions to the possibility of taking down nordstrom by both biden and victoria newland

00:49:35.060 who's been a favorite of ours in our discussions actually cross a threshold which which also allowed

00:49:42.900 them to conduct uh the operation without um uh the usual sort of uh oversight so it's it's it's

00:49:52.280 it's interesting how it all fell into place but i think and one other thing is um even though this

00:49:59.620 was planned before the invasion i think it's fair to say that the invasion itself created a larger sort

00:50:07.360 of political media environment in which the u.s was able to get away with it much more easily

00:50:12.900 and so that kind of forces us to say well in putin's strategic calculus was whatever he gained from

00:50:20.780 this invasion of ukraine worth losing the nordstrom pipelines it's hard to say that the answer is yes 0.76

00:50:28.060 uh at the moment so i think it also kind of reinforces the degree to which putin's decision

00:50:34.820 was a profound strategic miscalculation uh from the point of view of russia's interests as well

00:50:41.620 perfect how do people get to you in revolver have you back on about these other big stories how do they

00:50:47.580 get to you at darren jbd on twitter revolver dot news we have two in particular really important

00:50:56.920 white hot pieces that i'll come on discuss very soon one is the most important first amendment case

00:51:02.680 you've never heard of biden's trying to throw a guy in jail for 10 years for mocking hillary on twitter 0.64

00:51:07.960 and the second is the desantis takeover in florida education system how that's a blueprint

00:51:13.860 for republican governors everywhere so i look very much look forward discussing those in detail

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00:52:01.500 life ben harnwell uh you're head of uh by the way just in closing we're gonna get you back on a more

00:52:07.620 about london but why is alinsky not going to rome give me 30 seconds of that why is he not stopping

00:52:12.880 by to see georgia maloney i don't know it's an interesting question steve we discussed it before

00:52:19.300 coming on air it's a bit of a slap in the face i think given her her loyal support um against the

00:52:26.500 of the majority of her own membership and her party in supporting ukraine can i just finish

00:52:32.320 however on on the on the nordstrom pipeline i uh we got no we got 30 seconds we'll have we'll have

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Bannon's War Room - February 08, 2023

Episode 2503： Rebuttal To The SOTU The Failed Offense Of The War In Ukraine

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