00:05:46.000What people forget is that the McCarthy hearings in the House Un-American Activities were quite productive in turfing out communists, right?
00:05:56.000KGB communists that were deeply embedded in the State Department, other elements of the government.
00:06:04.000We would not have, although it came after the big part of it after we lost China to Mao Zedong and the communists because of infiltration into the State Department.
00:06:15.000The McCarthy hearings were extremely, extremely helpful, as we now know from the Venona was the documents and tapes that came out in the 1990s.
00:06:24.000Yesterday was the kickoff of the weaponization, the day before on oversight.
00:06:30.000Comer's got a piece in the New York Post today that says the deafening silence of the Biden administration about the timeline, as we've been saying, the timeline on the classified documents.
00:06:41.000Like, how did you get to 2 November with these lawyers rummaging around in the CCP, Penn, Biden center?
00:06:49.000Also, we're going to get into it. Bill Gertz and Ben are going to join us.
00:06:54.000We're going to go through the Gang of Eight, I don't think, still had a former hearing.
00:06:58.000They've kind of been off and on, but there's all types of obfuscation of the timeline regarding the CCP's airship that traversed the United States from Aleutian Islands all the way off to the coast of North and South Carolina.
00:07:15.000I want to start today with a FBI agent, Stephen Friend.
00:07:19.000Stephen, thank you very much for joining us.
00:07:22.000Correct me if I'm wrong, you're going to actually be one of the whistleblowers and one of the witnesses in front of the weaponization committee, correct, sir?
00:07:31.000Yes, I'm going to be participating in a transcribed interview next week.
00:07:35.000So you're going to be basically deposed by the committee next week, and then depending on how that deposition comes out, you will then be front and center in the committee, correct?
00:07:47.000Yes, I'm hopeful that I will. I think that I have a message that should be brought forward to the public.
00:07:54.000Yeah, let's talk about that for a second because the FBI is this revered.
00:07:59.000I say all the time when I was a kid growing up in our Catholic parish in Richmond, Virginia.
00:08:05.000Oh, by the way, the spinoff of that parish when we went to a Latin mass is now the investigated by the Richmond field office of the FBI of being the Latin mass traditional Catholics.
00:08:19.000The hobbits of the hobbits are now being looked at as domestic terrorists.
00:09:10.000I mean, certainly I've been suspended from the FBI for one hundred and forty five days without pay.
00:09:15.000And it's because I brought forth some concerns that I had with the January six investigations that were going on.
00:09:20.000And in that four months that I've been out of contact from the FBI, I've been able to establish a network of folks who are both inside and out of the agency who have firsthand experiences with what's gone on in the last few years with the agency being essentially turned against the American public.
00:09:37.000And that is information that is vital for Congress to get and is vital for the American people to see.
00:09:43.000Did you like the way that it what are your thoughts on the way it started off yesterday?
00:09:50.000We had a couple of a couple of senators.
00:09:52.000People had dealt with this for a long time.
00:09:54.000Tulsi Gabbard had, I think, one effort to FBI agents kind of giving general overviews about the culture of the FBI.
00:10:01.000Did you like that or would you rather started with a bigger bang and actually have some people that could bring receipts to give people an appetizer, give them a taste, show them a little ankle about what's in store?
00:10:13.000I think this select committee is really got a tough situation because they have to strike a balance.
00:10:19.000They're trying to work off the template of the January six committee hearings.
00:10:23.000But essentially, those were a complete appeal to emotion because the facts were not on the Democrat side.
00:10:29.000Now, the Republicans in charge and having the gavel, they do have the benefit of having the facts and they also have the benefit of having an emotional appeal.
00:10:37.000The challenge is going to be to strike a balance where you can do what they did yesterday and and talk about the good old days and bring forth some righteous indignation about the current state of affairs.
00:10:47.000But they also have to bring forth some hard hitting firsthand accounts.
00:10:51.000And I personally know several individuals who would be great witnesses.
00:10:55.000And my concern is that there's a limited bandwidth that people have.
00:11:00.000Everybody's got something going on. Everybody's busy.
00:11:02.000This committee really has to strike a chord with folks and they have to bring the facts ahead.
00:11:07.000So there are some whistleblowers that certainly have information that's very hard hitting.
00:11:12.000And I'm hoping that they will bring that out very shortly.
00:11:16.000Dr. Gorker, who used to, you know, he's one of the trainers down, I think, at the Quantico at the Academy for counterterrorism and jihad.
00:11:28.000He said yesterday in the show that there are thirty six thousand, I think, personnel at the FBI.
00:11:32.000I believe there's over fourteen thousand agents.
00:11:36.000They talk about a couple of dozen. Twenty four agents had come forward.
00:11:40.000Is there a bigger number than that that's behind the skin?
00:11:43.000The skin is kind of like the people that the mighty twenty in the magnificent six in the house fight.
00:11:49.000We know there's another thirty or forty that have their back, but just didn't feel comfortable coming forward.
00:11:54.000Are there more than twenty four right now that are prepared to come forward and give information or at least give information about certain situations they want brought forward to the public?
00:12:04.000Oh, without question. You know, like I said before, I've been away from four months during that time.
00:12:09.000You know, I've not stopped trying to build the network that I have of individuals who currently work for the FBI and are in a position to sort of launder the information that they have at their fingertips out to me and to the other whistleblowers who are more outspoken publicly because essentially we're burned.
00:12:25.000And that's how we've been able to bring forward.
00:12:27.000And that's how we've been able to bring forward.
00:12:28.000You know, you just spoke about this Intel product that was produced about this radical traditional Catholic investigation that's gone on at the Richmond office.
00:12:36.000That came from somebody that is in a position to give us that information, but is concerned that the FBI has essentially weaponized the the security revocation process.
00:12:46.000That's that they've used to walk me out the door and walk others out the door as opposed to handling issues within the personnel and matters that they have.
00:12:56.000And and they've been able to work around and walk us away without going through the proper channels.
00:13:24.000Instead, the FBI is elected to open separate cases for every single subject and then spread those to the field, which is within rules.
00:13:31.000But at the end of the day, Washington field office is still managing the cases, which is improper.
00:13:38.000And it's creating a false statistical narrative that domestic terrorism is on the rise because all these cases on paper being run from the field.
00:13:45.000The president, the director, the FBI, the attorney general can then go out and say, look at this tremendous rise that we have in domestic terrorism when essentially they've juked the stats from one to 2000.
00:13:55.000And they can say that it's now around the country as opposed to all stemming from one four hour incident at the Capitol.
00:14:36.000The Ukrainians are reporting they're shooting them down, but they've hit the electric grid and more suffering for the Ukraine people as Zelensky did not get the the acceptance of his F-16s.
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00:17:22.000About the vaccine and about the election, about the war in Ukraine, about the debt ceiling, about the Chinese Communist Party being a our number one existential threat.
00:18:41.000And certainly in my experiences and speaking to my colleagues and everybody, the mumblings and the grumblings were not just, you know, regular, you know, gripes about work and the boss at hand.
00:18:52.000We're talking about people who had genuine concerns about constitutional and civil liberty offenses that are going on within the agency.
00:19:00.000And the agency has essentially been politicized and weaponized against the American public and is incumbent on the workforce to step up.
00:19:08.000We receive specific training about this in the academy as new agents.
00:19:12.000We go to the Holocaust Memorial Museum.
00:19:16.000And the point of that training is to point out that only genocides and civil rights atrocities can occur if the police force becomes an apparatchik of an out of control government.
00:20:36.000Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, full stop, full stop.
00:20:40.000In the training program of the FBI at Quantico, when you go to the academy, there is not an afternoon where you get 30 minutes or an hour.
00:20:50.000They do not talk about why the church committee came about. They do not talk about the 1960s and 70s of the FBI and the family. They don't talk about the FBI's involvement, Mark Felt's involvement in Watergate, the silent coup of the FBI when Mark Felt got passed over by Nixon to be the director after Hoover died. That is not taught at the FBI?
00:21:12.680No, there's no history lesson to that extent, and it's really false to you as an agent to do your own homework if you want to dig into that. But in talking to executive management, that really rarely happens. To me, it ultimately is about protect the shield at all costs.
00:21:28.440When I had a meeting with my assistant special agent in charge and expressed my concerns about potential civil rights violations that were going on, and I said very specifically, I have a duty to protect the Constitution. I swore an oath to do that. The response that I got from him was, you have a duty to the FBI.
00:21:44.280When you're at the Holocaust Museum, did they ever talk about the excuse that the Germans – you remember when the occupation forces were there right after the war, you couldn't find any Nazis.
00:21:56.780Was that – who – were those guys – yeah, I kind of heard about them.
00:22:00.680Did they ever talk about what people had done to become kind of Gestapo or SS, and then they – and my people call the FBI the American Gestapo now.
00:22:10.660Are the agents taught about what the German people did to actually turn into Nazis and what they did personally?
00:22:16.940You know, the book is Hitler's willing executioners. It just wasn't Hitler, right?
00:22:22.180It went down into the entire system, and ordinary citizens flipped and became essentially – became part of the killing of the industrial process of the Holocaust.
00:22:32.040Is that taught to the FBI what happens when – because right now, I keep saying, the people who kick down the door and arrest Mark Hoke, you're just as guilty as – you're just as guilty as the Waffen SS, right, and everybody associated with the Gestapo.
00:22:47.820And this is why people call it the American Gestapo.
00:22:50.320Is that taught to agents about what their personal responsibility is in all of this?
00:22:54.980Well, the museum staff at the Holocaust Memorial, they do an excellent job on that tour, and they really prod and they provoke those sort of discussions.
00:23:05.740And there was actually a gentleman from the Anti-Defamation League that, you know, spoke to us for a couple of hours.
00:23:11.260And I found that conversation to be extremely fulfilling and rewarding and beneficial, but that really kind of stopped at lunchtime.
00:23:18.960You know, it was a few-hour field trip, and then we're back to Quantico and, you know, a place where you're not learning about the history of the FBI.
00:23:27.460It's just a question of policy and procedure.
00:23:29.640So when the FBI agents that like arresting these folks that are just praying the rosary outside of abortion centers and they're coming in with the guns up and terrorizing the kids, when they're arrested, they'll be able – they'll say, yeah, I went to the Holocaust Museum, but I didn't take that lesson away.
00:23:47.600But they all had access to that training, correct?
00:23:49.880They all did, and they're all leaning on the fact that they're carrying out lawful orders that are signed by judges, but they're not really taking into account, you know, the processes that brought those lawful orders to fruition.
00:24:02.520You know, do we follow the rules properly?
00:24:05.740And then just questioning, you know, the means that we're doing it.
00:24:09.180The FBI likes to use an elephant gun to kill a mouse, but certainly should pride itself on using the least amount of force necessary to carry out a mission forward to do it safely.
00:24:19.880Stephen, are people inside the agency, are people not just worried, are they actually feel bad about what they're doing to use the elephant gun, particularly to the most – to the hobbits of the hobbits, the people praying the rosary?
00:24:37.280Now we see in the Richmond field office, they're looking at – and I can tell you, the Latin mass Catholics are the hobbits of the hobbits, okay?
00:24:52.600And now you see they're going after the rosary, the guys praying – the men and women praying the rosary.
00:24:57.540Is there any sense of guilt inside the agency?
00:25:00.260Do you know from agents saying this is not right?
00:25:03.960I think there is, and it's not just the agents.
00:25:06.460It's other personnel and support staff.
00:25:08.340And that's the reason that that intelligence product was leaked to my network and brought out was because the individuals that were associated with it knew that it was wrong to do, and it's inconsistent with the mission of the FBI.
00:25:22.400Stephen, I know you're working with the great Russ Vote and the team over there.
00:25:29.960How do people get to you, find out more about your particular situation, also your thoughts on all of this, and can then look forward to seeing you testify?
00:25:42.400I'm a little bit spanned there, so you're going to have to go directly to at Real Steve Friend on Twitter, where I'll be sharing information about what goes on with the Office of Professional Responsibility, quarterly emails.
00:25:54.160And I also have a book that's on presale right now on Amazon.
00:26:15.420We talk about defunding the FBI and deconstructing the FBI.
00:26:18.960Do you believe that the FBI can be saved, or do you think it ought to be reorganized into something different?
00:26:26.820If I had my king for a day, it would probably be broken into 1,000 pieces and scattered to the wind, but I think you also need to be pragmatic, and I'm hoping that our officials do that.
00:27:03.380You know, Jim Jordan and the team over there made a very specific decision to kind of go very broad yesterday, but even that caused a meltdown by the mainstream media, and particularly the White House.
00:27:13.620The White House, because remember, all this is going to be contested.
00:27:16.120There are not going to be any free shots on goal here, just not.
00:27:19.400You're going to get – this is going to be highly contested, and we know they're doing depositions, and you've got the Steve Friends of the World, and more people are coming forward, but this is going to be highly contested.
00:27:47.420We're going to be back after a short commercial break.
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00:32:07.760Little by little, we chopped away at his ships, until by the end of the year, we had gained command of the sea approaches to the southern Solomons.
00:32:17.220In 1943, the Marines were relieved by the army.
00:32:26.260Our victory had decisively stopped the enemy advance, throwing him from offense to defense.
00:32:31.480We had reversed the wartime strategy of the Japanese Empire.
00:33:38.600Six months, seven months after Pearl Harbor, the United States sent those kids into that hellhole, trained up, ready to go, and had to fight one of the best field armies in the world, the Imperial Japanese Army.
00:33:52.000Now, remember, the best troops of the Japanese Imperial Army were on mainland China, taking on Lao Baixing, the Chinese people, who took the brunt of that.
00:34:03.420But they had excellent combat troops in these outer islands, and it was a dogged fight.
00:34:08.260But within one week, Stalingrad held and Guadalcanal fell, and they were two turning points, one in the eastern front and the other, obviously, in the Pacific.
00:34:16.300Bill Gertz, you're probably the top guy in this town that's covered this story for, I don't know, going on 30 years.
00:34:27.400Is your belief, sir, that we're at the beginning stages of really the real phase of World War III right now?
00:34:36.240You could call it Cold War, World War III, non-kinetic warfare.
00:34:40.960Where China is engaged in warfare against the United States, and unfortunately, a large percentage of our leaders don't understand that.
00:34:50.140They're living in this delusional world that somehow we can cooperate with China, where China is made clear that they want to dominate the world, and the main impediment to doing that is the United States.
00:35:02.200So they have launched gray zone warfare, non-kinetic warfare, information warfare, political warfare, to destroy the United States.
00:35:14.480Yesterday in the House, 419 to 0, they did pass a resolution condemning the CCP airship.
00:35:22.280But at the same time, and I want everybody, if they could please put it up in Denver, the CNN this morning has this whole thing that, and this is the narrative they're pushing, Bill.
00:35:33.080At the same time we condemn them for what happened, they're pushing a narrative that Xi didn't really know about this.
00:35:38.340This is rogue elements of the PLA or certain elements that are not under his direct command.
00:35:43.600Is there any truth, given your deep knowledge of the command structure of the PLA and the Chinese Communist Party, is there any doubt in your mind that Xi knew about this balloon and knew about its flight path, sir?
00:35:57.680This is a false narrative that's being promoted by a number of pro-China analysts, including Dennis Wilder, once the CIA's top analyst on China and a number of things, claiming that the foreign ministry feigned not knowing about the balloon's passage over the United States.
00:36:16.920This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the Chinese Communist Party system.
00:36:21.060This is a top-down system where everything, everything is tightly controlled.
00:36:27.620Xi Jinping is the Central Military Commission chairman.
00:36:33.200He's the top person in charge of this.
00:36:35.660And this balloon, the State Department just released new details yesterday.
00:36:39.560This balloon was under the purview of the PLA.
00:36:43.480And that means the strategic support force, which is in charge of electronic warfare, public opinion warfare, propaganda, as well as cyber warfare.
00:36:53.260So this idea that somehow that this is all apologists trying to go back to the engagement policy, which I'm calling Biden's neo-appeasement policy towards China.
00:37:09.620Walk me through the neo-appeasement project.
00:37:12.180I want to make sure we tie together these hearings and Comer up today in the post.
00:37:17.260I don't think I've gotten to the guys yet, but I will.
00:37:19.220He goes in the post and drills Biden about the lack of visibility and transparency on these classified documents.
00:37:28.360One of the big reasons for that is because Hunter Biden, you can tell in that memo that's 22 points long, has taken a classified briefing about Ukraine and given it to a business partner.
00:37:40.600Walk me through when you say neo-appeasement, he's out there saying, oh, no, they're pure competitors and they're and they're, you know, strategic competitors.
00:37:48.660And and but we're going to take them on and we're going to take China, although he gave China, I think, all of 45 seconds in his State of the Union speech.
00:37:56.440What is neo-appeasement and why do you say that is the policy of the Biden administration?
00:38:01.040OK, so shortly after coming to office, the Biden administration adopted many of the Trump administration's realistic policies, looking at China as a threat, not just a competitor, but as a threat.
00:38:16.940Unfortunately, within the Biden administration, there are left wing elements led by John Kerry and others who want to so-called cooperate with China.
00:38:26.740And they've they've enunciated this idea, well, we'll compete with China where we can and we'll cooperate.
00:38:32.840China has made very clear it's it's not going to cooperate with the United States.
00:38:36.200They issued a list of demands to Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman last year or and said, look, these are our demands.
00:38:46.160You have to change your policy in order for us to cooperate with you.
00:38:50.080This really began in November when Biden met with Xi Jinping in Bali, Indonesia.
00:38:57.180And it's reflected in the balloon incident in the fact that this was kept completely secret from the American people until a photographer for the Billings Gazette in Montana noticed that they had closed the airspace and took a photo of this.
00:39:14.580And the reason they kept it secret was Anthony Blinken was supposed to go to Beijing as part of this new policy of kowtowing to Beijing.
00:39:24.720And they want to go back to the engagement policy.
00:39:28.780The big banks are pushing that as well.
00:39:31.460The pro-China elements are pushing it.
00:39:33.780And and the the the neo-Maoists within the Biden administration are also pushing it.
00:39:39.360They view China as the ideological future.
00:39:44.020There's many of them within the Biden administration.
00:39:46.440And they want to have a Maoist like system in the United States.
00:39:52.120Well, this is why they put us through the struggle sessions, all that.
00:39:56.360Remember, for the viewers last week at this time, we held up this from last week's last Friday's Financial Times London Blinken to meet Xi during landmark China visit in sign of thawing relations.
00:40:08.580They briefed the Financial Times the day before and lied to them about this.
00:40:13.000Remember, before the broadcast was over, the trip had been canceled or postponed.
00:40:17.660Bill Gertz, is it not true, sir, that in May of 2019, when President Trump for a year and a half had negotiated with Lighthizer and Navarro, this, you know, the deal that was going to be the seven deadly sins?
00:40:31.480Wanchi, Sean and Xi said, you know, upon further review, they had the big one belt, one road meeting that Putin showed up to.
00:40:36.840And they said, upon further review, how about this?
00:40:39.500No. And in fact, we're going to decouple.
00:40:42.240And shortly thereafter, they declared a people's war on the United States.
00:40:46.180What is the concept of a people's war?
00:40:48.100And why is May of 2019 the inflection point in the run up to the war between the CCP and the United States of America, sir?
00:40:56.320Well, I would I would take it back even further into 2012.
00:41:00.020That's when Xi Jinping came to power and he dropped the Deng Xiaoping theory, which was bide our time, build our capabilities.
00:41:10.380And he began advocating openly that the Chinese Marxist Leninist system, they call it socialism with Chinese characteristics, is going to be the dominant ideology in the world.
00:41:22.080It's going to take over and it's going to eliminate the democratic free world.
00:41:26.120All of our freedoms and liberty are going down the tubes if China is successful in this global campaign and they're they're marching forward.
00:41:35.420They've dropped it now after the pandemic, their economy has gone down the drain and they're retrenching a little bit.
00:41:43.340They want U.S. investment. They want good relations with the U.S.
00:41:47.860And the Biden administration has adopted a policy that I call war avoidance, which is basically the antithesis of peace through strength.
00:41:57.140Peace through strength says we need to if you want to avoid war with China right now, we need to start sending aircraft carrier strike groups, additional ones.
00:42:05.860We need to be beefing up our munitions.
00:42:08.620We need to be sending more submarines all to the Western Pacific.
00:42:12.140And if we don't do that, I think we're headed for war.
00:42:16.140And I mean, we that's the only way we're going to deter them.
00:42:19.120The Biden administration instead is expressing fear.
00:42:23.020They're expressing fear that there's going to be a war and they're they're offering concessions and conciliation.
00:42:29.200And this is being you know, it was Rumsfeld who said weakness is provocative.
00:42:33.500It provokes. And that's exactly what the Biden administration is doing right now.
00:42:37.640They're provoking China with weakness.
00:42:40.020Bill, I know you got to bounce, but I'd like you to stay through a commercial break.
00:42:45.040I got one or two questions on the other side.
00:42:49.660He is the dean of the analyst in this town and in writers in this town.
00:42:55.540His reported column is still a must read for everybody that's interested in taking down the CCP.
00:43:01.020And when you have people like Dennis Wilder, the chief analyst at the CIA, who's forget neo appeasement, complete kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:43:13.760We got we're going to talk a lot about Ukraine to make sure everybody fully understands what's going on in the battlefield.
00:43:19.560And in the boardrooms around London and in Brussels, Paris, about what's going on, what's what's being delivered to the Ukrainian people and what's not being delivered to the Ukrainian people in a shooting war reminiscent of World War One.
00:43:34.300Also, Laura Loomer on her RICO charges against the big tech oligarchs.
00:47:36.320So there's a fundamental misunderstanding within the intelligence community and the top ranks of the military.
00:47:43.940And there has been, although it's been somewhat changing, especially under Trump.
00:47:48.960There were some revolutionary changes.
00:47:51.620But a person like Dennis Wilder, by the way, who on his Twitter page boasts that he was the editor of the President's Daily Brief.
00:47:59.240So for years, he was censoring all of the threat information about China for presidents, for several presidents, going back to Bush.
00:48:07.800And so this is the kind of thing they did.
00:48:10.660These guys, these elites, they felt that it was their job to, quote, protect senior leaders from the real truth about China, because they had this pie-in-the-sky notion that China was somehow evolving into a non-threatening, non-communist state.
00:48:27.620And for 40 years, you know, as I pointed out in Deceiving the Sky, my book, that they were totally wrong.
00:48:36.620Deceiving the Sky is the best book out there on this topic.
00:48:40.620By the way, it was also the Thucydides trap.
00:48:50.000So they want to cut a deal where, you know, we get benefits of kind of nudging them in a more liberal way when we're really taking on being more of an authoritarian government.
00:49:02.500The one or two things you think must happen immediately that the Republican MAGA wing has to force to make sure we avoid a kinetic war in the South China Sea and the Straits of Taiwan in 2025, sir?
00:50:14.780Right now, we're limited to something at the State Department called the Global Engagement Center, which has been focused on Russia for the past 10 years.
00:50:24.120And now they've got to focus on China.
00:50:26.420We've got to step up our game in the information sphere.
00:50:29.420By the way, Bill Gates, Bill Gertz says exactly like we said, 100 days.
00:50:36.320Lao Bajing would overthrow the Chinese Communist Party.
00:50:39.020Remember, of the 1.4 billion people or 1.3 billion, however they calculate it now, there's less than 90 million communists.