Episode 2509: Rico Cases Against Twitter's Influence
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The revolving door between the Department of Justice (DoJ) and the lobbying profession is a revolving door that keeps the public in the dark about what's going on in the government and what's happening in the private sector. It's good for industry, but it's bad for the rest of us.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do
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people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these
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people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
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save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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you mr roth a twitter employee we're exchanging communications on jira a private cloud server
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with sisa nass nased and alex stomas who now works at stanford and is a former security
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of um security officer at facebook to remove a posting do you now remember communicating on a
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private cloud server to remove a posting yes or no i wouldn't agree with the character i don't care
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if you agree do you this is this is your stuff yes or no did you communicate with a private entity
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the government agency on a private cloud server yes or no the question was if i yes or no yeah i'm on
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time yes or no ma'am i don't believe i can give you a yes or no well i'm going to tell you right now
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that you did and we have proof of it this ladies and gentlemen is joint action between the federal
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government and a private company to censor and violate the first amendment this is also known and
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i'm so glad that there's many attorneys on this panel joint state actors it's highly illegal you are
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all engaged in this action and i want you to know that you will be all held accountable mr williams
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wouldn't the american people feel like this government wasn't so weaponized against them if there wasn't
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such a revolving door between department of justice senior officials and lobbying
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i i i don't quite follow the premise of your question sir it's pretty easy there's a revolving
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door between senior officials at the doj and the lobbying profession do you think that that gives the
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public more or less trust there are rules governing what employment and this is based on my understanding
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i've been government for 50 years governing what post-government employment can be one what
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individuals actions can be once they're employed elsewhere but also what they're allowed lobbying is
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influence peddling and you are the principal at the rabin group which is a lobbying firm and i would
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observe the reporting of project veritas where jordan tristan walker who's a director of research and
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development said on a recording one of the things we're exploring is like why don't we just
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manipulate covid ourselves mutate covid via directed evolution pfizer is a revolving door for all
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government officials it's pretty good for industry to be honest it's bad for everyone else in america
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pfizer is one of the clients of the lobbying firm that you're a principal of isn't it
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i do not represent pfizer i do not know you're a principal of the rabin group right no i that is
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correct i mean mr chairman i seek unanimous consent to enter into the record the clients of the
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rabin group which include pfizer that objection not just pfizer but google as well and in response
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to the twitter files we saw a statement come from the fbi where they said correspondence between the
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fbi and twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional long-standing and ongoing federal
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government and private sector engagements are there such engagements between the fbi and google
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when you say such engagements sir i don't quite google engage with the fbi mr williams i don't
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work for either google or the fbi so i gosh i'd have to again point you to your own client list that
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you advertise on your own website which includes google does it surprise you that at the rabin group's
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website pfizer and google are clients it does not surprise me sir no i the the soros funded open
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society is one of the clients as well does that surprise you sir i don't have our client list in
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front of me right now i will uh assuming that's what it says i will i'll take your word for it yeah
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i would think that maybe one of the legislative initiatives we could pursue would be to tighten
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this revolving door that folks at pfizer and folks at big tech seem to freely acknowledge in which
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you seem to be the incarnate of the revolving door uh mr baker and miss parker i want to assure you
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that i want to assure you both that we come okay okay um you've got luna gates and loomer uh laura
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explain to us why you're rico why are you suing these guys for rico big tech and these others
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why is it so important because we want we could have played other clips from others they were all
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over them the last couple of days but why is your case which is people dismissed at the beginning
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now getting traction in the fact that they're starting to lawyer up against you ma'am
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well thanks so much for having me on steve i appreciate it and look you know this is an
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argument that i have been making for literally five years okay i first filed a lawsuit against google
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facebook twitter and apple in 2018 in which my legal team and i made the claim right that these
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companies were acting as state actors and this was 2018 that we argued that they were colluding
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okay together in a manner to interfere with our elections and overthrow the united states
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government and steal the election from president donald trump we now know that to be true
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the house oversight committee and the testimony from the twitter executives who not only perjured
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themselves themselves but also evidence that was inserted into the committee and congressional
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record by representative luna and others shows that the claims in my current rico case that was
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filed in may of 2022 prior to elon musk purchasing the company because a lot of people have attacked me
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and said oh why are you attacking elon musk this has nothing to do with elon musk okay this is a lawsuit
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that i filed months before he purchased the company i had no idea that elon musk was going to be purchasing
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twitter and simply because somebody purchases a company that doesn't erase liability from all these other
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criminal executives people like jack dorsey and vijaya gaday and yael roth who committed criminal
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election interference uh i want to take you through the claims because some people want to understand
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better i guess uh why i've decided to go with rico uh rico the racketeering hang hang on hang on one
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second before you get to the claims i want you to go through that but um because people are going to
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say already oh this is insane she just said the election was stolen you're going to prove
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in your case your claims about all this collusion all this working together as in a in a like the
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mob does in rico and you're going to you're going to bring evidence that supports the fact they
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suppressed they suppressed the reality of the of the 2020 presidential election correct you don't have
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to present that now but that is that is what the gist of your case is right i am walking evidence i was
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the first and only deplatformed candidate in united states history okay so i am walking evidence and we
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have supplementary evidence now that we know that these companies especially people from twitter and
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facebook and individuals from siza okay who said that the 2020 election was the most secure election
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ever we're having communications on a private cloud cloud server known as jira on november 3rd 2020 the
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day of the stolen election and so we know and of course this is unprecedented uh like i said my case
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was filed in may of 2022 but this is now uh you know added evidence uh for my lawsuit and we see
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that the claims and the testimony under oath made by these executives shows right it's supporting
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evidence for the claims in my rico case and uh just like hang on hang on one second hang on one second
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did did congressman luna walk them into a perjury trap she was sitting on the show yesterday they
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perjured themselves do you believe that also that she walked these executives because they had
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additional evidence that she walked them into a perjury trap and they in fact did perjure themselves
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they perjured themselves she didn't even have to walk them into a perjury trap because they
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perjured themselves multiple times prior to representative luna even questioning them they
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perjured themselves regarding uh material support to terrorist organizations when they said that they
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didn't know whether or not uh there was monetization for the taliban accounts and other islamic
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terrorist accounts that they have that is a claim in my uh rico case they violated uh u.s law uh by
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specifically uh section uh 2339b providing material support and resources to a terrorist organization
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we have countless examples of facebook twitter instagram utilizing uh or providing material support
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to groups like isis the taliban hamas the muslim brotherhood and uh iranian sponsors of islamic
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terrorism so uh they lied about a lot of things and i don't know why these people aren't in prison for
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committing perjury i don't know why jack dorsey isn't in prison for committing perjury five years
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ago when i called him out during the congressional hearing on tech censorship we got a couple of
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minutes walk through your your basic charges walk through the basic charges of the case and what
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and we want to know why you brought a rico uh case well look uh rico has been famously used by people
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like rudy giuliani for breaking up the mafia and that is exactly what big tech is it is a big tech
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mafia okay and they are using uh you know techniques just like the mafia does to carry out acts of
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organized crime this was an act of organized crime and people like jack dorsey and mark zuckerberg and
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others are in a big tech mafia in silicon valley so my complaint specifically alleges that these
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defendants have engaged in a pattern of record racketeering activity including uh the violation
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of numerous federal criminal laws including and i'll go through the the codes okay 18 usc 1951
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interference with commerce by threats of violence okay 18 usc 1952 interstate and foreign transportation
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and aid of racketeering enterprises uh 18 usc 1343 wire fraud 18 usc 2339b providing material support
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or resources to terrorist organizations and finally 18 usc 2385 advocating overthrow of government
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we know okay that executives at twitter including jack dorsey helped advocate for uh this uh i guess you
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could say total anarchy that led to the overthrow of our election they put the black lives matter
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terrorist symbol in their bio they supported antifa accounts there's whistleblowers that have evidence
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showing that uh antifa and black lives matter terrorists islamic terrorists and individuals who
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supported and worked to steal the election in 2020 were you know plotting a coup this is what it was
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steve and i think that we would all agree okay the ousting of president donald trump from the white
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house is a coup this is an act to overthrow the united states government and the financing came from
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big tech social media tyrants right you look at the dark money then you can hang on hang on hang on
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hang on hang on slow down you're gonna you're going to prove all that in in a court of law with evidence
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and all this correct this is the point you've got lawyers you're doing this right now talk about the
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lawyers on the other side how they're not dismissing this as the rannings of a mad woman they're taking
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this seriously are they not ma'am they are taking this very seriously okay so they're right now trying to
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prepare a motion to dismiss and uh they recently lawyered up so at first they weren't going to be
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using uh outside legal counsel we were notified over a month ago uh my attorney john pierce and i
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that uh they were not going to be utilizing outside counsel counsel to fight this case then twitter legal
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literally went behind elon musk's back and hired perkins coey despite the fact that he said that it's a
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crooked law firm and he encouraged people to never use them so then elon had to issue a statement
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and say that twitter legal made an error when in reality they went behind his back uh against his
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own um against his own word and brought in perkins coey then when he had to hold it hang on hang on
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hang on slow down hang on slow down i just want to make sure people understand they hired mark elias's
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the the firm of of of mark elias and i think essentially uh the firm of bob bauer right i know
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they're gone now but they they they hired the heaviest of the heavies uh on your case correct
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when they hired this when this flap about perkins coey came up with elon musk that was because they
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retained them as outside counsel on your case uh yes because elon musk didn't want outside counsel in
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the case originally okay and then twitter legal uh went behind his back and i'm not making this up
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there's literally a reuters and a bloomberg law article about this if you pull it up you can show your
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audience and he had to issue a statement in which he said that twitter legal made an error how does
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twitter legal make an error when they have to get oversight from elon musk no he was on the record
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over a month ago publicly saying on his own account that perkins coey was corrupt and that everybody
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should boycott them that's how much they view me as a threat then when elon said no we're not using
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perkins coey yesterday my attorneys and i were notified that twitter and jack dorsey have retained
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michael gotley who was obama's uh assistant general counsel okay during the obama administration
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and he was also in charge of detention operations with the taliban in afghanistan so clearly my my
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claims are very serious because they also have retained uh these are all lawyers from wilkie farr and
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gallagher they have a woman who was once in charge of cnn's pr who is a lawyer who's been brought on so they
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have cnn pr lawyers they have uh the head of wilkie farr's crisis management firm who also doubles as
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barack obama's lawyer and these are the people that they're paying probably what 2500 an hour to fight
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me for my lawsuit that people have called frivolous no this is a very serious lawsuit and we're going to
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hold them accountable laura laura we got to bounce give your social media how do people go where they
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go to find out more about the suit yeah people can go to uh lumered.com that's my website uh you can
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also follow me on twitter at laura loomer and that's where you can support my legal defense fund
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and um i'm also on getter and truth social and uh gab at laura loomer as well
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harnwell uh i gotta talk about ukraine because uh today cnn you get up early in the morning and i
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know you know it's late morning for you guys but they had the thing that russia begins a massive
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offensive and they're hitting them with rocket barrages along 12 different i think attack points
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you read these stories had this really touching story the other day in the new york times
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about a family a little seven-year-old girl and her mom that had stayed in uh
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buck moot against all you know everybody tell them how you got to get out they go hey we got
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nowhere to go because it's devastated everywhere and then you see the happy talk of uh brussels and
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all this they're going to do this you're going to do that and then you find out zelinski came back
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came out really empty-handed because people don't want to they don't want to take this war to the
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next level because they understand that then you could start getting uh and they're not going to
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liberate crimea that's a fantasy we told people that was a fantasy we said focus on what's going to
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happen there forget the spring offensive forget some summer offensive focus on now because putin
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and these guys are trying to give this a death blow by the first anniversary um give you i want to get
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to the latin mass stuff in a second but let's go to the ukraine um tell me about his trip through
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europe actually had more divisions because maloney and some others are calling him out saying why are you
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meeting with the french why are you meeting with the germans why are you doing sidebar meetings
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aren't we good enough ben harnwell well the short answer presumably steve is no um there's a headline
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in today's carriere della sera which is one of italy's major daily newspapers with the headline that
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the zelinski macron schultz uh improvised dinner didn't produce anything and that uh represents the
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general tone coming out of the press um that and of course the bemusement as to how it was zelinski so
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deliberately um slighted georgia maloney had been so all in supporting the ukrainian course um just to
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give a bit of background um the ukrainians to try to uh uh dampen the the anger said okay don't worry
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zelinski won't come to rome but will organize a bilateral meeting in brussels um just just the
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two of them together and uh as as the appointed hour approached steve zelinski turned around and said
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look okay i'm just too busy i'm gonna meet i'm gonna have six heads of government in groups i'm
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gonna do you all together in separate groups so um so italy had to be uh had to be content with um
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um with a mutual adoration session with other global leaders but but we but hang on we now know
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that there was a lot of tension behind the scenes it was quite heated in the uk it was heated there
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he didn't really get the jets the germans are saying we got to slow this thing down and there's two papers
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i want our audience because our audience is the most sophisticated audience in all media
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the guardian the old the guardian out of the uk the old manchester guardian the guardian is as far
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left as you can get they got a piece by simon jenkins and then the telegram which is the center
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right or what what passes for the right in the united kingdom has richard kemp these two pieces are
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getting a lot of attention in the uk and internationally and they kind of essentially lay out the case of
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what the war room's been talking about for months and months and months that you got to stop the
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happy talk and focus on what's really the russian army is going to do and they're going to try to
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deliver a death blow to the ukrainian people not just the army but they're going to come into the to
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the power grids they're going to hit civilian targets they're coming and they're coming hard
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and in in jenkins piece he's talking that if you give them f-16s it's only going to show and it's
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going to be a major escalation and we are not prepared we the west are not prepared to really
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come all in on that escalation is that essentially the case that's being made now by people who are
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really thinking this through in the united kingdom and in europe yeah it is if i might just read out
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i think the the crucial extract here from the simon jenkins article in the guardian and for
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for for american simon jenkins is probably the uk's most respected uh columnist he says this
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that military experts explain that jets cannot conceivably be in use by the coming spring indeed
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possibly not this year ukrainian pilots cannot be trained to fly them nor ground facilities built to
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handle them jets cannot occupy territory and as bombers would be allowed only to bomb forces in
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ukraine um they uh they are of limited tactical use um and that's basically a line that the war room
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has been saying since the whole discussion over the over the the fighter jets um started we've also
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been saying of course that the discussion about fighter jets is a distraction um because why because
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by the time trained fighter pilots were ever to come online this war will already be over because of
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what i'm going to come to next which is the the colonel richard uh kemp piece from today's telegraph
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and this is the the spring offensive that uh that putin is is preparing just to to look at some of the
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the numbers here of what what's being talked about and talking about the spring offensive it's it's about
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um putin massing around 2 000 tanks 700 aircraft and between 300 uh thousand and five hundred thousand uh
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infantry this is a colossal uh range of forces um so i think that the the the the the the
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important line to take here on this is that when european leaders are talking about jets what they
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are trying to do or training pilots what they're trying to do is to extricate themselves from this
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war and the commitment that they've given thus far without visibly abandoning uh zelensky what's doing
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so don't don't don't don't bury the lead let's go back to those numbers because this is the way the
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russians fight right it's it's war of attrition and they don't care how many bodies they throw into
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it it's 2 000 tanks and remember all this happy talk about the tanks the 31 tanks from uh the united
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states from abrams super sophisticated they couldn't be able to use these for a year or more right and
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you have to have american cruise logistics there's leopards too but i think the total commitment when
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you add up everything all different tanks different logistics different training all the tanks i think
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come the 310 i believe or 200 let's say 300 round up 300 tanks and these are commitments people don't
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know when they're going to show up how the crew is going to be there uh against 2 000 of these of
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these russian tanks that are kind of battle ready they're they're you know they're they're they're
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they're ready to go you got 200 000 conscripts to 500 000 they've kind of reformed this army
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right and it's logistics chains and it's not pretty this is not going to be pretty you know they can't
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fight combined arms like the united states which is infantry armor artillery and and close air
00:26:00.100
support that's the most sophisticated in the world the united states army is the best at it and people
00:26:04.660
will tell you in the army all you retirees all you colonels listed guys you know how complicated it is
00:26:10.420
with the finest trained army in the world that would be the united states army how complicated the
00:26:16.340
russians is going to come and pound you and they're going to use artillery and they're going to pound you
00:26:20.340
with the tonnage of like world war one and so is kemp is is kemp's a warning colonel richard kemp's and
00:26:27.460
the telegraph is that a warning to the tory party and to the british elites or who quite frankly in
00:26:32.260
charge of boris johnson running around and because here's who here's who's going to suffer besides the
00:26:38.580
conscripts they're throwing in like cannon fodder in the russian army it's the civilian clearly the
00:26:45.300
ukrainian army but the civilians in ukraine they're still there in eastern ukraine and i think
00:26:49.460
they're even going to come for at least the outskirts of kiev is anybody like boris johnson
00:26:54.740
taking on board what richard kemp is saying uh ben harnwell absolutely not um and to answer your
00:27:00.820
question steve is this a warning that is literally what this is here's what colonel kemp says we must
00:27:06.340
therefore be prepared for significant russian gains in the coming weeks we need to be realistic about how
00:27:13.220
bad things could be otherwise the shock risks dislodging western resolve um and that is basically
00:27:22.180
the uh the the daily telegraph trying to put its hands ahead of itself before the fall uh because
00:27:29.620
this is what's coming and now they're trying to to get ahead of this and say look it's it's all part
00:27:34.500
of the plan but again i have to i i come back to the point i come back to the point at this point
00:27:39.940
this is what the this is what we learned steve uh over the last few days hang on ben ben ben hang on
00:27:47.940
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read i want to read that from colonel richard kemp again it's in the telegraph people should know the
00:29:58.960
daily telegraph is the tory paper in uh in london uh it's one of the reasons that they were so wet as
00:30:05.520
they say are so such squishes this is why we started break part london uh years ago with rahim
00:30:11.680
gassam rahim was just a blogger at the time uh and became a rock star as became the leading force um
00:30:18.720
really to support nigel farage and the whole brexit uh movement is because the media in in the uk as
00:30:24.800
you remember ben was so pathetic but the but it is the voice it is the platform for the tory party
00:30:30.800
in uh in london and you can tell there's some there's some people ben who understand warfare
00:30:37.760
and understand geopolitics understand critical path they see where this is going and they want
00:30:43.440
now to get off the bus all the cheering all the standing ovations they understand that there's going
00:30:48.640
to be blood death destruction um because it's coming and it's coming big and unless quite let me be
00:30:56.160
brutally frank unless nato's hapless the british can put up one combat division i think the rest of
00:31:02.160
nato combined can put up two two and a half combat divisions i think it's two and a half to three and
00:31:07.920
a half max i mean combat divisions ready to go in and fight that's it that's what you got because it's
00:31:13.200
a protectorate it's not an alliance it's a protectorate it's an american protectorate this is
00:31:17.040
what president trump fought for to get them to start paying up to their two percent and ben as you've
00:31:21.520
done such a great job the german people aren't into it 45 polls out that hard and well walked
00:31:27.600
through you say 45 of the german people wouldn't support the alliance kicking in to defend a nato
00:31:35.040
ally a nato can not ukraine a nato ally being attacked which is the the keystone of the uh of
00:31:41.280
that uh was a paragraph five or whatever it is that one attack upon one's an attack here's where
00:31:46.640
you're going to go here's where you're going to go and here's going to see these cheerleaders on
00:31:50.480
capitol hill this thing's going to get horrible the images are going to be horrible let me just
00:31:54.880
get everybody the images are going to be horrible you think you've seen women and children done the
00:31:59.600
defense partners is 40 to 50 000 civilians mainly women and children already been killed
00:32:04.560
you ain't seen nothing yet it's going to get horrible okay it's going to get horrible and they're
00:32:10.000
going to come in with the fist like they did when they broke listen any group that stood up against
00:32:16.000
the wehrmacht in in the 1940s and the stalingrad and leningrad you know know how to take a punch
00:32:23.360
okay they've taken a punch and their army is obviously not close to where the american army
00:32:28.240
is not even the same universe but that's not the point there's going to be massive pressure to bring
00:32:34.640
in the nato alliance going to be massive pressure bringing the united states and you're going to hear
00:32:38.880
biden just said the other day whatever they need okay what and what what they're going to need
00:32:44.320
is american combat troops okay the 101st airborne for its first deployment the the the um
00:32:54.880
revered 101st airborne that stood at boston and held out in the battle of the bulge until patten's third
00:33:02.880
army relieved them those heroes they're on the board the first european deployment since 1945 they're
00:33:10.240
right there on the romanian border of ukraine and the quote-unquote staying for another year
00:33:15.600
ben harnwell read the warning from colonel richard kemp one more time sir absolutely steve
00:33:24.880
we must therefore be prepared for significant russian gains in the coming weeks we need to be realistic
00:33:31.360
about how bad things could be otherwise the shock risks dislodging western resolve
00:33:41.040
is that resonating now given given the the tour he just had with the king of england and you know
00:33:46.640
and at west it was at westminster hall that the the theater if the camera can pull in look how dramatic
00:33:54.080
that is there are very few statesmen if any that ever get called to to give a a speech there that is
00:34:00.960
very very very very rare okay a joint session of of parliament lords and commons okay and it's
00:34:08.800
then you go to the eu theater okay is is is anybody are are the adults are the because he had a standing
00:34:16.880
ovation in brussels also are any adults standing up and saying because it is the women and children in
00:34:25.520
ukraine and of course this relative it's really a militia not an army a citizen militia and you can't
00:34:31.760
question their heroism their heroism is the way they've stood under the blunt brunt of this is is
00:34:37.840
amazing it doesn't but that doesn't get to the point they're just being their lives are just being tossed
00:34:43.360
away ben harnwell steve everything that you just said is absolutely correct um what i what my my
00:34:52.080
interpretation of events and of zelensky's european tour uh what we learned from this is that basically
00:34:58.800
the european leaders are out it's a no um i don't know if denver is able to put up the um the cartoon
00:35:05.120
from um from the times as i'm talking there we go that basically represents perfectly what we've just
00:35:12.960
been witnessing they're saying yes to fighter jets but really it's a no um and that's the times that's
00:35:20.320
that's murdoch press for you um the the reason why i was saying earlier steve um about about the
00:35:26.000
westminster hall and the king and all this that it's theater it's because rishi sunak had already
00:35:32.160
had the bbc briefed before zelensky was even off his raf plane at stanford airport the bbc had been
00:35:40.640
briefed that there were going to be no fighter jets committed um another example right because the bbc
00:35:47.520
is is is the state-funded um national broadcaster so basically taxed the government line the government
00:35:53.600
of the day um another indication this is the first right a first of the diligently daily checking the
00:36:01.600
international press here is an article i just read the title from from the bbc ukraine war belgorod
00:36:09.200
locals live in fear but won't blame putin um oh there it is perfect so um just to give a synthesis of
00:36:18.320
the article it's a human interest talking about market stall holders and all the rest of it um
00:36:26.480
on the the russian side of the russian ukraine border talking about their their their lives being
00:36:32.400
upended by the war on the other side on the ukraine side how they still support putin how the
00:36:37.200
the the the morale is absolutely holding there and how they're getting on and that they think
00:36:42.320
that the the ukrainians are are that really the aggressors in this um and you've got to say why
00:36:47.760
now why is the bbc starting to push this out line out now because they're starting to say what we've
00:36:53.120
been saying from day one which is that there are two halves to this story and i can suggest steve that
00:36:58.960
the reason why they're doing that is because the british government is preparing as i was saying just
00:37:03.840
before the break um it's looking for a way to extricate itself without visibly abandoning
00:37:10.080
zelensky um which i think was what all the european leaders that's their strategy now
00:37:15.920
and that's what we saw in brussels this is what i'm saying about president diem in in vietnam
00:37:21.360
and i'm not saying zelensky's gonna be assassinated but when they cut you loose you get cut loose
00:37:26.000
you're gonna see you're gonna see all these cowards and all these capitals that led these people
00:37:29.920
mershamer said you're gonna they're gonna lead the ukrainian people down the primrose path and
00:37:34.800
then cut them loose you heard it here we've been saying this and now you're seeing it right now
00:37:39.840
ben we got to bounce how do people get to you how they get to war room rome how they get to uh all your
00:37:44.560
content thanks i've got a few interesting things up on my get to feed right now as we speak it's
00:37:50.880
simply my surname at harnwell uh on getter if you don't if you don't like apps you don't do apps you
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to the search box go for the war room at war room or at harnwell uh and there's loads of stuff here
00:38:09.920
that complement what we what we push out whilst we're on air yeah great content ben harnwell thank
00:38:16.560
you so much honored to have you let me get before we go to the cold let me get joe joe uh we warned
00:38:22.080
about this day coming and this is the thing about um transhumanism and and uh enhanced homo sapiens
00:38:31.440
i said i want to talk about this poll that's up in daily mail that there's going to be 10 or 20
00:38:37.040
percent and you know that don't have a problem with this are not particularly religious don't
00:38:41.840
really believe in god not really but don't buy into the judeo-christian west thesis right and
00:38:47.840
they're going to be fine and that cleavage in society is going to explode because our setting
00:38:53.920
are going to have folks that said hey little johnny if i put a chip in him you know he can get into
00:38:57.760
stanford if i don't put a chip in him he's going to go go to virginia tech right so maybe maybe we
00:39:04.160
chipping maybe let's put something in his brain what is that before i go to the cold open what does that
00:39:08.400
poll say sir that is a warning shot this is going to be a massive social issue and it's going to be a
00:39:14.880
huge political issue in the days to come what does that poll say joe allen
00:39:22.080
well in short steve the poll is indicating that in the u.s uh especially among the young and
00:39:28.000
especially among the educated there is a huge appetite for what i would say is soft eugenics
00:39:35.600
technology uh if the guys at denver could throw up the graph maybe the audience could see specifically
00:39:41.520
what we're talking about um the study that was done by researchers at harvard and oxford they pulled
00:39:48.720
6 800 people in the u.s and you had uh about uh 38 percent of uh educated people uh would was were
00:40:02.560
willing to utilize genetic editing technologies on their children in order to get them into the top 100
00:40:10.480
colleges that's actually a pew uh graph there if you could throw up the other one uh please but um
00:40:16.960
okay hold it hold it hold it hang on hang on hold let them get the right thing i want to take time on
00:40:21.600
this hit rewind and go back to that go back to that right now because this is everything ladies and
00:40:27.120
gentlemen this is you talk about a wedge issue i'm going to give you a chasm issue okay we've this is
00:40:33.760
why joe joe allen came over here a couple years ago give me that number again in the meaning of that
00:40:39.760
number sir all right denver if you throw up that graph again uh for the audience to see but what
00:40:45.280
you have is uh it's much more than 20 percent um you can see in the upper left hand side that among
00:40:54.240
educated uh young people 41 percent would be willing to utilize genetic editing technologies to improve
00:41:02.400
their child's intelligence uh you if you go to the middle graph there you see this is a polygenic risk
00:41:09.360
score tests um you basically prenatal screening so that uh you are able to select an embryo for things
00:41:18.880
like higher iq there you have almost half of these americans polled saying that they would be willing to
00:41:26.000
do this in order to get their child into the top 100 schools um and then in the lower left-hand side
00:41:34.000
you see much the same thing the upper being age younger it skews towards the young and uh the the
00:41:40.160
lower being education 38 of uh mostly educated uh people in the u.s willing to undergo genetic editing
00:41:49.680
to improve their child's iq to get them into a top college um and then again nearly half uh of looking
00:41:57.440
at uh prenatal screening they would be willing to select an embryo uh whose genetic testing had
00:42:05.040
indicated a higher iq what's also astonishing here steve is you see the you know among uh the the the
00:42:12.080
older or less educated groups groups you would anticipate would maybe be much more averse it's not
00:42:18.000
really that much uh lower you roughly the same and so in this this tracks with a pew survey conducted
00:42:25.920
last year which showed that roughly a third of americans uh don't have any problem whatsoever
00:42:32.240
with genetic editing technologies uh and particularly for uh healing uh certain genetic defects before a
00:42:39.920
child is born all of this really leads up to the point that we are in a culture that is starting to
00:42:46.560
embrace soft eugenics or as uh the scholar nicholas agar would call it liberal eugenics where you are
00:42:53.680
selecting for superior genetic strains on the basis of personal choice or consumerism as opposed to
00:43:01.200
top-down state force okay um hang on we got a cold open we're also going to try to go ben burquam's
00:43:09.360
in iowa carrie lake is in iowa we're going to try to get to all that short commercial right we've got
00:43:14.480
an amazing cold open with joe allen when we come back everybody hang on um by the way joe the the
00:43:22.160
folks of the die hard we don't want to do this are evangelical christians correct am i correcting that
00:43:28.320
sir absolutely correct you hang on there brother from the boston the boston university school of
00:43:37.600
theology the same as dr martin luther king that would be our own joe allen short commercial break next
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promo code radio then hundreds of millions and within 10 years about 2 billion people
00:44:59.120
will have had their whole genome sequenced we are going to understand more about the essence
00:45:04.320
of what it means to be a human being our most intimate traits the way our brains function our
00:45:11.040
personality styles we will be able to increasingly understand the genetic component of those traits what if
00:45:18.720
you have information that your kid has a better than average potential at being amazing at abstract
00:45:25.200
math or sprinting or having an outgoing personality right now about two percent of children in the united
00:45:33.520
states are born through a process called in vitro fertilization ivf it's about 10 in denmark the pre-implanted
00:45:42.560
embryos can be screened for mostly single gene mutation diseases and disorders and simple traits like hair
00:45:51.680
color and eye color and of course gender we already have the ability to rank let's say let's call them 15
00:45:58.640
pre-implanted embryos from likely tallest to likely shortest within about 10 years we're going to have the
00:46:06.400
ability to rank them from likely highest genetic component of iq to likely lowest genetic component
00:46:14.640
of iq and on top of that then we have these unbelievably power tools of precision gene editing
00:46:23.120
like crispr we aren't going to be starting from scratch and creating babies out of a computer but we
00:46:29.680
will be making small numbers of gene edits whether it's one two three edits five edits maybe ten
00:46:37.040
edits and people have a gut feeling well it's okay to eliminate risks but we don't want to do things that
00:46:44.560
feel like enhancement but there will not be a clear boundary between those two poles within our societies
00:46:52.400
people have all kinds of views ranging from extreme people with strong religious views who have a
00:46:59.680
strong aversion to quote-unquote playing god to transhumanist biohackers who think it should be
00:47:07.360
all systems go and everything in between and if that isn't hard enough we are doing it in a world
00:47:13.760
driven by extreme competition and we're going to have to make big decisions before we fully understand
00:47:22.160
the long-term implications of the decisions that we are going to have to make
00:47:29.520
they've already made the decision come on this is spin and happy talk right joe allen what do you
00:47:36.400
mean make big decisions the only thing they're worried about is the letter is the is the uh rear
00:47:42.400
guard action of uh the uh religiously inclined the believers in the judeo-christian west that says this
00:47:50.960
must stop that that's it don't don't they're not they're not making any tough choices the tough choice
00:47:56.320
is how they overcome the resistance that's put up by the homo sapiens joe joe allen am i wrong in that
00:48:02.720
you study this for a living am i wrong in that assessment absolutely i mean there are a handful of
00:48:10.720
atheist thinkers who make the same arguments from a naturalist point of view but statistically and certainly in
00:48:16.640
my experience uh you have far more people who are religiously inclined because they don't see
00:48:22.800
this world as the final testing ground for each individual uh they're much more inclined to have
00:48:29.360
a transcendent point of view so that one's iq or one's beauty or one's physical strength isn't
00:48:35.600
necessarily determinate of the value of the person and so the the gentleman we just heard james metzel
00:48:42.000
i mean you're talking about uh definitely a person who is among the elite right uh james metzel he
00:48:49.360
served on the national security council uh he served for the state department uh he just he served uh the
00:48:55.520
on the senate foreign relations committee uh you know he he was schooled at brown university harvard
00:49:02.240
oxford so you're talking about a guy here who is in some way speaking for many of the elites
00:49:09.760
that he is in connection to and in these institutions it's undoubted in these institutions
00:49:16.720
one's iq or one's in intellect is necessary to to thrive right if you have a high iq you are going
00:49:25.040
to excel in those spheres right in those institutions the same goes though for athletics
00:49:31.440
right or or military prowess martial prowess uh your genetic predisposition is going to determine
00:49:38.480
whether or not you perform at the top level and so the appeal the appeal of liberal eugenics the
00:49:44.960
appeal of soft eugenics is that parents want the best lives for their children and these guys are
00:49:52.480
holding out the opportunity to do that you have two things that are happening right now you have in vitro
00:50:01.040
fertilization and you have pre prenatal genetic screening in combination what that means is that
00:50:10.160
you can fertilize say up to 10 15 eggs screen them and then eugenically select them for the traits you
00:50:19.840
want this is happening as he said all over the u.s it's happening all over the world and in a culture
00:50:27.520
of high competition the appeal gets greater and greater and it just goes from there
00:50:33.600
joe real quickly give how your touch points i gotta go to iowa and ben burquam uh we'll have
00:50:38.320
you back on obviously give where do people get to your writings you can find me at joebot.xyz
00:50:45.120
at joebotxyz and warroom.org under the transhumanism tab thank you very much steve
00:50:50.960
thanks joe uh let's go to ben burquam in iowa why is carrie lake in iowa is she running for
00:50:57.440
president uh is she trying to show some ankle here about running for president ben burquam
00:51:03.280
you know uh no as far as i know that that's not on the the docket for carrie lake what she's doing
00:51:08.880
and what i see uh the the whole purpose of it is to re-inspire america we have so many people that are
00:51:13.680
running around doom and gloom saying give up you know it's not worth the fight and carrie lake there's
00:51:17.920
really no better voice for the maga movement president trump and carrie lake to me are the
00:51:23.440
the top voices in that and maybe i mean when you tell me when it comes to communicating to me carrie
00:51:28.000
lake is even better so i don't say anything to president trump about that but she is the voice
00:51:32.880
of maga and so and it also happens to be where she grew up so i think there's some really cool stuff
00:51:37.600
going on out here but to me the whole point is to re-inspire the base it's what your show does
00:51:41.840
every single day it's what war room does it's what the posse does it's saying keep fighting we know
00:51:47.280
the left is evil we know they're going to continue to cheat but it's up to us to continue this fight
00:51:51.920
for this generation how to but charlie kirk follows us right now hat when her speech starts are you guys
00:51:57.520
going to do a live stream how do people get to you and how they get to carry lake today we'll have you
00:52:01.680
on at five but how they get there in the interim yep we'll be live on rumble and getter and then i
00:52:08.080
believe charlie will be pulling it in uh throughout his show as well so but check the uh real america's
00:52:12.480
voice rumble and getter will be live i'm going to announce right now grace chong and and captain
00:52:17.600
bannon will do also pull a live stream get all of our chat in there we want everybody following
00:52:21.360
carry lake so ben fantastic look forward to seeing you back here at five o'clock great work sir
00:52:27.520
thank you sir let's say hi to carry okay uh charlie kirk's next there's going to be a live stream up on
00:52:34.720
the carry lake speech there's a lot going on today we didn't even get to half of the stuff i want to get
00:52:38.640
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