Bannon's War Room - Episode 2518： Persecution For Defending Your Land; DeWine Authorized The Controlled Burn

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.360 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.960 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.720 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.300 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.120 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.060 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.280 what is now in session i'm presiding judge emilio velasquez this is a time and date set for the

00:00:59.200 arraignment on case number 2023 00041 state of arizona versus george allen kelly and if i can have

00:01:09.340 the defendant please state his name for the record george allen kelly may i ask a question your honor

00:01:15.640 yes you may i i can't read without my reading glasses okay um they're not prescription reading

00:01:24.200 glasses just 1.5 magnification or anywhere close to that all right so i'm going to go ahead and have

00:01:31.580 these glasses uh provided to you so you can go ahead and uh see the complaint thank you and um i just

00:01:37.400 want to make sure that you heard what i said right now and that you have full awareness yes i heard what

00:01:42.700 you said and i'm aware of everything i can hear and now thanks to you i'll be aware of what i can

00:01:47.020 read very good i can open all right so it appears that you have one count against you and that's

00:01:53.600 first degree murder that's alleged on or about the 30th day of january of 2023 intending or knowing

00:02:01.040 that this conduct would cause death with premeditation did cause the death of the victim with the initials

00:02:07.860 of gcb and that's a class one felony i'm going to go ahead and appoint an attorney but i will tell you

00:02:15.200 that it's an indigent uh attorney list right public defenders would you kindly well just one moment so

00:02:22.340 what's going to have to happen is you're either going to have to retain your own attorney or you're

00:02:26.760 going to have to go ahead and um talk to the attorney that will temporarily be appointed and discuss with

00:02:32.580 her um her rates i will i will talk to the attorney that you are going to appoint all right very well

00:02:39.820 so at this time then um i'm going to go ahead and appoint miss brenda larkin and she will be coming

00:02:46.200 into the jail to see you so at this time mr kelly then i'm going to continue to hold you on the one

00:02:52.000 million dollar cash bond so your next hearing is going to be the 8th of february and it will be at

00:02:58.580 9 o'clock in the morning your honor may i ask a question

00:03:03.040 correct uh you used the word in indigent would you please give me your definition of indigent

00:03:12.100 it's someone that has an income a certain income that doesn't qualify them for that qualifies them

00:03:20.420 for a hired attorney but somebody who's not that doesn't make a certain amount of money a year

00:03:27.460 right so it'd be somebody who's not making more than probably twenty thousand dollars twenty five

00:03:33.080 thousand dollars a year that's more than accurate i understand thank you your honor may i ask one more

00:03:41.380 question at appropriate time one moment please go ahead and proceed mr kelly uh i noticed coming in

00:03:48.100 your honor my wife is in present in the court may i ask her to make an appointment for

00:03:55.600 audio visual conference and i've not been able to talk to her or anyone so that's something that

00:04:03.400 has to be discussed with the detention um facility downstairs so that conversation would have to be

00:04:09.540 had with them sir okay so if your wife wants to have communication with you she can go to the 0.99

00:04:14.740 sheriff's office and they can go ahead and make the proper accommodation that they need to make

00:04:18.300 i appreciate you giving that instruction

00:04:20.100 it's tuesday 14 february in the year of our lord 2023 we got a lot going on from alaska to washington

00:04:28.900 dc to ohio where uh dewine was forced to have a uh a conference today a press conference after our show

00:04:36.720 this morning and he admitted he finally admitted that he would he gave authority to do the control

00:04:42.500 burn we're gonna get into all of it including the economy and much more but we're gonna start

00:04:47.400 uh with uh sheriff mark lamb one of the greatest sheriffs in this country sheriff lamb i i'm i'm

00:04:53.300 kind of confused here it's a first degree murder charge a million dollars cash bail he can't see

00:05:00.240 even see his wife i don't think he gets his glasses the guys it makes under 25 000 a year

00:05:06.200 what the hell is going on down in arizona sir that's an american citizen right there am am i not correct 0.57

00:05:12.320 about that you're absolutely correct and i while i do not know the details of this case uh i think

00:05:19.640 in most americans eyes this seems excessive especially while we're seeing across this country

00:05:24.940 time and time again hardcore criminals guilty of probably as bad if not worse are being allowed to

00:05:32.360 be released we had a guy in our own county killed his mom his his mom his dad his sister

00:05:38.740 and his six-year-old niece and got less of a bond and he killed him with a knife so i just think that

00:05:44.540 this feels excessive um especially in his state in life uh and leaving his wife out there to fend

00:05:51.640 it for herself on a on that property where clearly illegals are coming through there i certainly think 0.97

00:05:58.780 that they could have done better here but i do not know the details of the case so i will reserve that

00:06:03.060 uh for them that they may have something that i don't know well it seems like they put it all out

00:06:10.120 in the public i mean he lives right down in that hard scrabbled ranching area i mean he's right on

00:06:15.620 the border right i mean he's as close to the border as you can possibly get uh illegal aliens come through

00:06:20.460 there every night you know how they come through on like a super highway that the cartels are bringing

00:06:24.800 them up uh and uh i think he shot warning shots early in the day and then he looks like he he shot

00:06:32.160 an illegal alien coming across and killed him is that a first degree murder charge is that a million

00:06:37.680 dollars cash bail is that being isolated almost in solitary confinement away from your wife at the age

00:06:43.900 of 74 years old sir i think they're gonna have a tough time making that case steve especially he used

00:06:49.880 the term premeditated premeditated is when i sit in my house and come up with a plan to go and kill

00:06:54.960 somebody i do not believe this they're going to be able to meet that burden of proof um and i think

00:07:00.600 they're gonna have a tough time meeting the burden of proof beyond um uh self-defense you know we have the

00:07:07.260 ability to protect our properties and here's a 73 year old man with clearly an elderly wife as well

00:07:12.080 what right do they have to protect their property um if he feared for his life and the life of his wife

00:07:18.140 or somebody else or feared serious physical injury then that certainly falls within the justification

00:07:24.080 of using deadly force whether they're armed or not um it's his ability to articulate that

00:07:31.340 sheriff lamb just give me the example you gave in your county what happened with this individual how

00:07:39.240 many people did he kill with a knife and what what what was he charged with he killed his mom his dad

00:07:46.260 his sister and his six-year-old niece who by by the way he decapitated and i believe his bond was

00:07:52.620 five thousand five hundred thousand dollars cash and we are a very pro law rule of law county where we

00:07:59.360 hold people accountable so i i just look at this bell and i see it as is pretty excessive and i think

00:08:05.180 this is what the constitution was trying to keep uh american citizens from having undue bail or uh placed

00:08:12.180 upon them you know but look i'm not the judge in this case but it certainly doesn't seem right

00:08:18.260 sheriff lamb this is what strikes people in the rest of the country that it appears that the border

00:08:25.880 is out of control it's wide open there's an invasion of the country and where you have certain

00:08:30.660 authorities they're not coming down on the illegal aliens or the criminals coming across or the cartels

00:08:35.520 coming across but when they got to come down on something they drop the anvil on american

00:08:40.640 citizens is that a incorrect perception that the rest of the country has right now no it's not an

00:08:46.960 incorrect perception it is the perception that the american people are getting why because we're

00:08:51.920 seeing time and time again where criminals are not being held accountable and then a good citizen

00:08:57.420 does something like this to protect his property and he's held accountable to the fullest extent of

00:09:02.580 the law so this is what americans are seeing and you're seeing it i'm seeing it it feels political

00:09:08.540 in nature in many cases um and i don't think this kelp this case is helping that narrative this poor old

00:09:15.660 guy you heard him in there talking he seems like a very nice guy no criminal history um to to be

00:09:21.640 there on a million dollar cash bill that i i highly doubt he's going to be able to achieve and then

00:09:27.320 they shut down the go fund me on top of that so it doesn't look good

00:09:31.160 sheriff lamb is it just our perception it seems things in arizona have even gotten worse since

00:09:40.980 uh katie hobbs illegitimately took the position is is is that a wrong perception too it seems like

00:09:47.000 she's even more aggressive in the open borders campaign of other source backed uh individuals 0.53

00:09:52.980 like herself is is our perception of that wrong no i think your perception is right what we're seeing

00:09:59.620 across this country in arizona we're starting to see that here is as more and more left-leaning

00:10:04.820 hardcore liberal um attorney generals and county attorneys and judges are being elected um what

00:10:12.700 we're seeing is that they're being more and more emboldened in their decisions to hold the american

00:10:17.200 people accountable um and that's alarming to a lot of us it was alarming to me i kept saying that the

00:10:23.240 most important position in this in this last election i thought was the attorney general and i will

00:10:28.520 tell all of you that your your county attorneys your attorney general those are the people that

00:10:34.060 are responsible when you get something like a million dollar bill and judges of course do

00:10:38.740 i mean if we we always talk about term limits if we're going to talk about term limits on politicians

00:10:43.680 we should absolutely include include judges in on that because not only are they legislating for

00:10:49.140 the bench but a lot of the egregious behavior we're seeing is coming from judges in this country

00:10:53.800 sheriff lamb how can people uh follow you how they follow you on social media and how they

00:11:00.660 follow find out more information about you what's your website come see me at american sheriff uh on

00:11:06.780 instagram sheriff lamb on facebook um you can check us out at americansheriff.com and uh come see what

00:11:14.420 the good things we're trying to do here we're trying to uphold the rule of law standing up for freedom

00:11:18.260 the constitution the american people i think the majority of americans still feel that way

00:11:23.420 and this is still the greatest country in the world and that's why i fight for it every day

00:11:27.340 sheriff lamb from pinal county every time i go around the country people say hey if you if you run

00:11:33.840 into sheriff mark lamb say hi so hi thank you very much for doing this you've got a lot of fans

00:11:38.340 not just in the war and posse but throughout the country yeah thank you sorry i didn't mean to

00:11:44.140 step over you thank you for being such a strong voice um for freedom and for all things right and

00:11:49.140 and common sense so thank you thank you brother fight on sheriff mark lamb the sheriff of pinal

00:11:56.880 county uh arizona in a real the guy who stands there for the constitution and law and order in the um

00:12:03.680 in the cauldron down there in southern arizona let's get todd bensman todd before i talk about you

00:12:08.840 got a great excerpt from the book in the post give me your perception of of what we've seen in this

00:12:13.680 situation down south of tucson on the border with uh with mr kelly right well i mean first of all i'm

00:12:21.760 with the sheriff and saying we don't really know the full story of that that circumstance but i'm

00:12:27.440 always suspicious anytime somebody's self-defense go fund me page gets canceled uh that that's a kind

00:12:34.280 of a red flag that maybe there's some politics seeping in into a case uh there's no reason why

00:12:41.180 somebody can't have a we're innocent until proven otherwise you can have a go fund me page

00:12:46.100 the the the the border right now though you you agree with me that the cartels now it's an open

00:12:54.100 highway i mean it's the the invasions as bad as it ever has been uh todd well it's changing what

00:13:01.980 what you're seeing is a real surge in runners and gotaways people that are just um pouring over

00:13:10.400 especially east of tucson and um in uh juarez el paso and in the rio grande valley area again

00:13:18.720 they're running people are um you know in vehicles and trucks and um through the brush and all the rest

00:13:26.280 of that we are seeing a redirection of migrant give up traffic we call that give up the people 0.78

00:13:35.040 that you remember 3 000 people all at once coming in and then they're just waiting there for border

00:13:39.760 patrol to come get them to process them into the country well now they're being processed in through 0.75

00:13:45.300 ports of entry as i've explained over and over on this show uh so it is it looks a little bit calmer

00:13:52.800 in places i had a uh border patrol agent call me uh just the other day and say man it's like dead

00:13:58.800 here all of a sudden but that doesn't mean that just as many people aren't coming in they're just

00:14:04.260 coming in in a different way being handed off in the ports of entry uh tens and tens of thousands i

00:14:11.120 was looking at the numbers just yesterday uh very significant numbers are still coming through

00:14:16.760 um but then you've got people that can't get in through that program or won't wait

00:14:22.160 for it uh because they have criminal obvious criminal histories and they're running that's

00:14:27.540 why you're seeing that well that's my point well that's what happened this guy the runners are the

00:14:32.080 most dangerous right they're the guys that either can't get through it or or maybe carrying something

00:14:36.680 they can't take uh they can't get a parole for right you imagine for yes ben's been hanging right

00:14:42.160 there the new york post thing's amazing we got todd bensman from cis we got the peter navarro

00:14:47.580 jeffrey clark is going to draw some michael patrick leahy big developments in ohio today

00:14:52.540 on the uh controlled burn all next in the war room

00:14:56.700 despite the u.s blowing through 31.4 trillion dollar debt ceiling in january the leftist white 0.82

00:15:06.080 house still refuses to reduce spending while our national leadership has buried their heads in the

00:15:11.420 sand when it comes to fiscal responsibility it's time to pull yours out think about this

00:15:17.560 to dig our country out of this mountain of debt every single taxpayer in america would have to write

00:15:23.900 a check for 247 thousand dollars and it's only going to get worse now would be a great time to

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00:16:22.940 take action use your agency here's your host stephen k bannon

00:16:28.500 okay i want everybody in this audience i i want you to i want you to i want you to embrace

00:16:36.460 what we just heard we got bensman on here now he just you know he hit his mark because of the games

00:16:42.800 they're playing on the invasion of the southern border and we're gonna have navara in here in a

00:16:45.880 second who was trump's right-hand man trying to shut this thing down you got the runners because they

00:16:51.960 do the humanitarian paroles the game the system to get more illegals into the country 0.87

00:16:56.140 and this is why many york is all i'm going to get impeached we got to shut it down

00:17:00.100 the runners are actually more dangerous right because now you get the real bad guys they know

00:17:05.380 they can't get in the other way they're going to come this how the cartels come up this how the drugs

00:17:08.640 come up so you got a 74 year old man that can't see uh he's got a wife lonely and by the way this

00:17:14.280 ranch is hard scrabbled right down on the border and they're blowing up every night just like a super

00:17:20.160 highway and uh and he takes some guy out coming across supposedly earlier that he fired warning

00:17:27.080 shots we don't know all the details but he took some guy out they got him on a first degree murder

00:17:33.360 and a million dollars cash bail and in in in mark lambs telling you in pinal county they got a guy

00:17:39.920 what killed his mother killed his father killed his sister and decapitated the baby decapitated the 0.99

00:17:46.600 baby i'll kill him with a knife not a gun i mean up close and personal kill him with a knife 1.00

00:17:50.580 five hundred thousand dollars bail 1.00

00:17:52.800 i want i want you to get burning man over this 0.71

00:17:57.880 because this is what's happening in this country

00:18:01.540 they're gaming the system to allow an invasion of this country where we're spending all this

00:18:07.300 freaking time and money on the eastern border russian-speaking eastern border ukraine

00:18:12.280 they have an invasion of this country todd bensman how many people have come in on biden's watch

00:18:17.740 i would call me illegal i know you get different categorization just give me the body count how

00:18:21.920 many have come in is it five million is it six million how many i mean conservatively it looks

00:18:27.960 like about five and a half million if you count the gotaways so far we got two more years i want i want

00:18:35.260 everybody to think about that how many that's bigger than how many states in the union

00:18:39.220 right where the 20 states below that think i want everybody in this audience to think about for a

00:18:44.840 second because this they don't want you to be awakened they want you just to lull you to sleep

00:18:49.180 on all this other stuff's ufos you better be the aliens got the aliens over top of you

00:18:53.480 but don't look at the five and a half or six million illegal aliens in this country

00:18:59.440 and like they said they got a right to asylum you don't have any right to asylum it's it's the

00:19:04.640 citizens of this country's country bensman tell me the new york post is now they've done a great

00:19:12.680 excerpt of your book tell me about it well if you want to find the trail out of this mess at the

00:19:19.280 border you have to understand the trail that got us into the mess and that trail as i point out in

00:19:25.920 the book disclose in the book uh start starts with the mexican government which waited until after

00:19:33.940 the election two days after the election and passed a pre-written law federal law in the mexican

00:19:42.340 congress that effectively uh required the emptying of 58 detention centers throughout mexico of all

00:19:51.520 families anybody with a family that has kids all are released we just lost him

00:20:01.860 okay let's get navarra peter i'm gonna bring you on for i'm gonna bring peter in by phone let's

00:20:07.700 reboot let's reboot bensman peter you were president trump's right hand on this correct me if i'm wrong

00:20:13.620 brother wasn't it peter navarra that dropped the hammer on mexico about tariffs you're not gonna play

00:20:18.640 ball here are you gonna be cute about this we're gonna jack up some tariffs we're gonna we're gonna

00:20:23.020 inspect every truck that comes across the border we're gonna play economic hardball and didn't

00:20:27.680 they fold sir let me let me correct your your syntax admiral you said it was trump trying to

00:20:33.440 control the border hey we did it i know it was a great day yes in the uh in the oval um the president

00:20:41.780 after the year and a half or so he's just like sick and tired of all these legal games everybody's

00:20:47.340 playing he said hey how can we do this and it's like can we throw tariffs on them uh you know i

00:20:53.300 look at simple and say yeah we can do this under this this uh statute and so like immediately we

00:20:59.780 shred in mexico with tariffs and they agreed immediately well the press went after us okay

00:21:05.380 like i don't know eight hours no no but hang on hang on hold it hold it did that slow down slow down

00:21:12.720 i want to go back because i want the people to have the lived experience of being in the oval

00:21:17.980 office of donald j trump people have got to understand what trump's trying to do this stuff

00:21:21.860 they computer they come at you with every different angle legal state department can't be done this can't

00:21:26.880 be done this can't be done it can't be done that way a million different ways you can't do it no the

00:21:31.540 borders just got to be open five and six million people just got to come across they just got to come

00:21:35.180 across they're hitting you what does trump say to that stuff uh peter how much how much patience does

00:21:40.680 he have with that not nothing okay well there was this thing called the famous dolly g decision a

00:21:47.160 judge under obama basically created the whole catch and release and using kids as bait to get over the 0.98

00:21:53.780 border and yeah every time we tried to do something their way it didn't work and finally the boss goes 0.91

00:22:00.380 this is bull you know bull ass let's get this done and he thought outside the box tariffs and it's like 0.90

00:22:08.640 threatening mexico with tariffs to stop illegal immigration right we could do that under national 0.98

00:22:15.500 security rules i looked at cipollone said yeah we can do that he did it heads exploded in the lib press

00:22:22.280 uh but within 24 hours mexico sent by 25 000 troops to the border and adopted our safe third which was

00:22:30.260 keep them on their side of the border and what you know what trump goes okay let's double this down

00:22:35.740 i think it was o'brien at the time goes down to the northern triangle we will light up guatemala

00:22:41.220 and el salvador same thing and done and biden one of the first things he did was undo that and that's

00:22:49.800 why we got two million coming in this whole incident steve it's like it's crazy because these guys the

00:22:56.020 runners as you call them were cartel members of a.k. friggin 47 and this guy's got a like the

00:23:03.600 a rifle and it defended himself we don't even know if the guy was shot was shot by him

00:23:10.020 um it's just look it's a two-tier system of justice whether it's at the border whether it's

00:23:16.760 in washington zee or anywhere in between you know there's a bounty on trump people

00:23:20.780 there's a bounty on american citizens versus illegal this is this is not trump's america

00:23:26.940 to that point they know this segment short episode two dropped of maga and the republican

00:23:34.220 red wave never was my podcast it's the six volume uh episodes that are going to be debilitating all

00:23:41.640 this week on bannon's war room and steve the posse put me into the top 50 of podcasts overnight okay

00:23:49.680 that's admiral bannon's audience and this is really good stuff there's some nice stuff in there about

00:23:55.060 hang on hang on give me that again because this is grace chung and captain bannon this is the war

00:24:02.820 room audience that what what do we put you in the podcast how how high up so my my partner i started

00:24:08.520 the podcast and it was like you know ranked like 180 or something like that it was coming down because

00:24:14.120 i started it slow overnight it went i don't know it's like 38 or 33 or something like that

00:24:20.060 and then politics okay and and that your audience is amazing this this documentary though steve is so

00:24:27.480 important because it basically lays out what we need to do to win in 2024 and there's a whole i mean

00:24:34.900 the two people that broke my freaking heart in the 22 election were joe kent and carrie lake okay

00:24:42.140 carrie had it stolen in in it's not even arguable it was the worst deal in american political history it 0.80

00:24:49.540 was just so brazen and joe kent basically he lost a plus seven republican district because of the 0.99

00:24:56.220 republican rhinos running attack ads in the primary we can't make these stupid kinds of mistakes but 0.93

00:25:03.320 the the scene and and the rnc and the rnc and the rnc didn't give him any money because he didn't

00:25:08.940 they didn't use the same he didn't use the consultants right he had 80 000 i want to play

00:25:12.660 we're gonna get it up tonight we're gonna blow it out let's play this clip from uh msnbc on inflation

00:25:18.740 i want your comments to find the good news in today's inflation report from the labor department

00:25:25.200 joining me now is nbc news business and data reporter brian chong so mixed bag yeah certainly

00:25:31.080 well the overall numbers is that 6.4 that's how much more expensive things are in january 2023

00:25:36.240 compared to january 2022 and when you look at the categories that led to a lot of the price increases

00:25:41.320 over that time well it was rent for example just the cost of putting a roof over your head but also

00:25:46.460 food that's what americans are feeling uh certainly when they go to the store so eggs

00:25:50.200 margarine butter flour uh airfare also going up as well as people continue to go out and try to do

00:25:55.900 that revenge spending so all in all it's certainly better than the 9.1 pace we saw in the summer but

00:26:01.040 price is still very expensive the grocery store is painful very yeah eggs up eight over eight percent

00:26:07.080 just between december and january so no relief on that side yet great brian chong thank you very much

00:26:12.100 we're gonna get another inflation report in march right every month we get to do this yeah march

00:26:15.740 right hello and then we're going to find out about whether they're going to raise rates again at the

00:26:19.340 fed that's right in the middle of march middle of march all right brian thank you very much

00:26:22.640 peter navarro your assessment sir news release from the biden white house hey

00:26:29.560 eggs are expensive let them eat bacon right if they're the movie at one s uh the big debate now

00:26:37.340 on wall street is how fast inflation is going to come down because that dictates how fast uh the

00:26:43.480 fed's got to raise interest rates and you watch the markets every day and they go up or down depending

00:26:48.600 on what people think about inflation but here's what i know steve here's what i know the incomes and

00:26:54.040 the real wages of american blue-collar mega black brown and blue-collar workers are going into the

00:27:02.100 toilet okay that's where we're at and msnbc won't talk about that cnn won't talk about that because

00:27:09.780 they know that that is a message that that hurts the biden regime and it is a regime it's not a

00:27:16.960 presidency it's a regime um so yeah this um this economic situation yeah i keep keep saying that

00:27:27.680 the other shoe is going to drop in the markets and there's a lot of hedge fund managers and and and

00:27:32.680 big you know the morgan stanley's world saying that the market it it's cruising for a crash and i i i'm

00:27:40.340 sticking to that forecast because this inflation ain't going away it's just not going away let them

00:27:47.200 eat bacon right biden extra expensive let them eat bacon let them eat dunkin donuts peter give me your

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00:29:34.780 we made it clear that hey the next piece of this is your water source we want to test that now the

00:29:43.440 good news is the majority of people who live in the east palestine community are in fact on municipal

00:29:50.400 water and those municipal sources are deep wells that they were able to intentionally reserve using the

00:29:59.480 most distant ones only for feeding the water supply but nevertheless there are quite a number of people

00:30:06.600 who are on private water systems mostly private wells we have strongly encouraged all of those people on private wells

00:30:18.520 to get their wells tested and that will be done at no cost to them this is something that is part of the

00:30:27.140 remediation and it's very important for the reasons i just described now if you are one of the people who live in the

00:30:35.500 impacted area and have a private water source you're not on municipal water i'd encourage you to call a number

00:30:41.580 i'll read the number out you've heard it before it's 330-849-3919 and indicate i believe i'm in the affected area and i'd like to have my water source

00:30:55.640 checked now we're strongly recommending those who have not yet had their water source checked to use bottled water

00:31:06.920 bottled water is being made available again same phone number that you can call if you need access to that

00:31:13.620 this is going to be particularly important if you are pregnant if you are breastfeeding or if you are preparing

00:31:19.860 formula for an infant so we would encourage you um to avail yourself of that of that water

00:31:27.300 the bottom line is that from the very start of this we have taken every step possible

00:31:36.740 to assure that people's safety was first and foremost and that with the compounds that we are

00:31:46.340 talking about in consultation with experts at the national level we have first made sure that we

00:31:54.800 were providing a clean atmosphere clean air and now we are actively working to assure that people

00:32:02.200 for the long run have clean water thank you governor if you were to live in the area would you feel

00:32:09.520 comfortable moving back into your home look look i i think that i would be drinking the bottled water

00:32:19.960 um and i would be continuing to uh um find out what the tests were showing as far as the air

00:32:29.520 um i would be alert and and concerned but uh i think i would probably be back in my house

00:32:39.520 what this is unbelievable you think you're mad in the opening segment about mr kelly with the first

00:32:48.840 degree murder charge and the million dollar cash bond locked up and looks like solitary confinement

00:32:53.840 down there in arizona you're about to get really mad i gotta bring in leahy first michael patrick leahy

00:32:58.680 the ohio star i got jeffrey clark who is president trump's head of the the environmental protection

00:33:04.860 force in the justice department where the real deals get done leahy my head's blown up and i don't

00:33:12.080 want to say we forced this from the war room by being on to whining these guys but it is you know

00:33:16.420 it's interesting that all of a sudden after we're hammering them for a couple days they pop up and have

00:33:21.000 a press conference but are they telling people now you should be drinking bottled water what a week

00:33:26.720 after they didn't do this before is this the first warning he and he's sitting there going yeah i think

00:33:31.280 the air stay indoors what's what's going on here well at that press conference today the uh his uh

00:33:39.660 ohio uh health officials sort of downplayed the air and water consequences of this uh first derailment

00:33:48.200 and then the control burn on february 6th one of the things that we did notice however is you know

00:33:54.500 vinyl chloride is a carcinogen and i don't think they really were focused that much on the long-term

00:33:59.560 effects uh that that having this these uh chemicals in the groundwater could possibly have

00:34:05.820 that was a an element that they underplayed i do have an answer to you for your question earlier today

00:34:11.500 hold it hold it but hold it just but hang on but hang on whoa whoa slow down slow down until today

00:34:17.520 because you said the governor till today they sent the kids back to school yesterday until today have

00:34:24.820 they come out and told people they should be drinking bottled water yes or no and then the 0.92

00:34:29.940 is the governor say i would stay indoors he's the governor of the freaking state what do you why are 0.62

00:34:34.940 you sending the kids back to school they actually did they put out things about drinking bottled water 0.90

00:34:40.520 and and saying about staying indoors yeah they put this out in a low-key sort of way but i think you're

00:34:47.420 right the the media pressure no hold it ho ho ho ho ho ho ho whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa that was

00:34:54.080 all taken off the city's back to normal they brought quote unquote back to normal they brought people back

00:34:59.580 in they haven't told people to continue to shelter in place that was a new thing today we says yeah i

00:35:04.640 would stay indoors that's why the reporter asked the question correct you are correct i'm i'm just

00:35:11.140 reporting what he said okay okay so look see i'm no no no no here's my point here's my point

00:35:17.680 they come up today and you said long term the head of the head guy right there said you should be

00:35:23.060 drinking bottled water and particularly if you're pregnant you know maybe even shouldn't be around

00:35:27.500 is this i don't get it why they're doing this look it's good they're doing today but why has it been

00:35:33.440 this huge kind of gap in in any kind of information or any kind of uh telling people what's going on

00:35:40.340 why why did it take today to have this press conference from the last time he helicoptered in

00:35:44.620 and had a press conference the last time i think it was the media pressure in part the media pressure

00:35:50.860 that that you placed uh on him from war room and some of our reporting at the ohio star but let me

00:35:57.400 get back to the question you asked about the remember the incident happened february 3rd on february 6th

00:36:03.420 three days later uh there was a controlled burn you wanted to know who made that decision you asked me

00:36:09.760 several times this morning i have the answer to that question it's our lead story at the ohio star

00:36:15.080 right now he admitted in his press conference that quote we made the decision the collective we

00:36:21.660 he talked to it was governor dewine part of that week he consulted with the governor shapiro of

00:36:29.080 pennsylvania because they're 50 miles away from uh they're right on the border with pennsylvania 50 miles

00:36:34.200 away from pittsburgh um and also with quote unnamed federal agencies and uh unnamed state agencies so

00:36:43.020 the we it looks like to me the the we is governor dewine because none of the others really had any

00:36:51.420 authority he did not however cite uh in his press conference what legal authority uh gave him the

00:36:58.920 right to make that what authority does he have what's the authority he he have because of the air

00:37:04.200 the air the water goes all the way in the ohio river valley and then the air goes right over

00:37:08.840 pennsylvania but hang on for one second did he talk about any analysis because remember there's two

00:37:14.260 things going on here there's a controlled release right there's a control release of of the chemicals

00:37:19.660 into the ditch and then there's a control burn of the chemicals they did a release we have to know

00:37:25.640 i it's it feels like norfolk southern had the quickest way they could do this is get the stuff

00:37:32.140 out of the tanks burn it move the tanks clear it and get the trains running again that's what happened

00:37:37.120 here he's where's the analysis what's the alternatives how do you burn this stuff in the

00:37:42.080 atmosphere you know why they did it because it was the quick way to move it here's what he could ask

00:37:46.540 this guy five questions he'd be in complete meltdown go ahead now here's what he said he said that

00:37:51.640 they they did modeling of where the air would move in the plume when they did the control burn

00:37:56.980 and he said that they did they developed that with the ohio national guard in conjunction with the

00:38:01.840 department of defense so he said they had analysis before he issued that decision the collective we but

00:38:10.440 it was basically dewine that made that decision to do the control burn but hang on the control the

00:38:15.420 control release gets the stuff out you scoop it back up put in something else and truck it out of

00:38:20.300 there or take it back out you don't have to burn it into anyway you hang on you guys have done a

00:38:24.820 great job i gotta make this point so that we can go ahead go ahead go ahead so what he said okay go

00:38:31.400 ahead i want to be fair on that morning of february 6th what he said that the decision that he faced

00:38:37.480 was uh either those five carriages with the hydrogen uh with the vinyl chloride rather was uh could

00:38:45.340 possibly explode sending metal shards up around into the air and down for about a mile or to

00:38:52.120 release it in a controlled burn that's what they that's how they framed the decision i don't know

00:38:57.700 if that's true but that i mean that that's the wrong that's the wrong let me be blunt that's the

00:39:02.180 wrong framing you do a control release so you take away the possibility of having the explosion got that

00:39:07.240 we don't want shards of metal going everywhere you do a control release into the ditch and then you pull

00:39:12.680 it back into something you don't have to burn it that's a separate decision you can put it back

00:39:17.480 show me show me the alternative of putting it back into something else and trucking it out of there

00:39:21.240 putting another rail cart getting the hell out of there and not burning it into the atmosphere

00:39:24.840 michael that was an option that a former naval officer might come up with right who actually

00:39:30.080 knows how to get things done but but it was not an option that they that they considered whatsoever

00:39:36.480 okay hold it hang over say you guys doing a great job let me get jeffrey clark in here

00:39:42.680 clark you were over you ran it for trump over in doj what the hell's going on who actually in your

00:39:48.240 mind has authority to make that to make a call like that is it the governor since the air goes all over 0.92

00:39:53.360 the mid-atlantic and blows into pennsylvania sir no steve uh and you know you're right on in your

00:39:59.700 analysis as as usual but uh under an executive order uh for a land-based release like this it

00:40:06.540 should be the federal on-scene coordinator who in this instance was eventually designated who is

00:40:12.160 someone from uh epa uh that person should have been making uh the analysis now he can consult with

00:40:18.800 the two governors but for the two governors to do it on their own and not have epa even do the air

00:40:24.400 plume modeling once you did the controlled burn or what you know is often called in these kinds

00:40:29.540 of situations in situ burns right it's at the site burning um you know it is inexplicable to me why

00:40:36.860 why the department of defense why wouldn't epa who are the real masters of plume analysis hang on hang

00:40:42.240 on jeff jeff jeff jeff jeff you gotta jeff you gotta stop here my head's blown up you got the epa's in 0.89

00:40:48.080 guys backyards got a little creek running through and they're putting them in prison because they want

00:40:51.980 to grow some corn next to the creek you got the epa and everybody's business they got their own police

00:40:57.640 force why in the biggest thing that's happened here recently all sudden they're like little lambs i

00:41:04.100 you gotta help me out here because you'd have doj dod epa all of them be up somebody's keister 0.95

00:41:10.180 so please explain to me how the on-scene coordinator who's clearly calling back to the way how are they

00:41:16.100 not saying everybody stand down we're from the government and we're here to help sir well that's

00:41:22.640 what should happen steve and say what you want about uh the obama administration right i mean

00:41:27.500 everybody and his brother from every conceivable agency i think it got up to something between 12

00:41:32.680 and 17 were down at the deep water horizon disaster but this one seems to be one that's not gotten a lot

00:41:39.160 of attention and i think the diagnosis is that epa is not doing you know classic environmental

00:41:44.820 protection they're focused more on you know cultural marxist ideas like environmental justice that

00:41:50.820 the clinton administration hatched and that this administration really has an apotheosis of

00:41:55.580 and uh you know they're they're focused on the fake issue of climate change but if you're talking

00:42:01.400 about protecting the key things that people care about for the public health like the air and water

00:42:06.940 and avoiding contamination it seems like they're a wall i just want to make sure because we're breaking

00:42:14.420 some news for you the first guy that has any kind of logic or credentials once again

00:42:19.460 your understanding of the law being trump's assistant secretary of of of department of

00:42:25.420 justice um attorney general in this area you're saying that the governor does not have the legal

00:42:31.860 authority to make that call is that correct sir look you know if it were hyper exigent uh you know i

00:42:39.040 could see uh governor kind of trying to make a call but i've seen a letter that uh references the federal

00:42:45.160 on-scene coordinator i've seen a letter go out that under the circular statute which is about uh

00:42:50.760 you know cleaning up waste sites and the like epa is involved in this so i don't understand why they

00:42:56.400 weren't the ones making the determination because you're basically talking if you're going to do a

00:43:00.440 burn like this uh uh kind of media trade-off like a pollution media trade-off between are you going to

00:43:06.420 experience more water pollution or more air pollution and you know which do you do or you know you put

00:43:12.740 economics to the side and as you were saying they vented the the train cars and then they

00:43:17.940 let it on fire but they could have vented them and then scooped it up yeah jeffrey hang on for one

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00:46:31.240 michael patrick lahey governor dewine and i'm not we're not trying to get in his business here i mean

00:46:37.060 he's a governor just won by a massive landslide um but i i'm i'm i'm confused and here's what's got me

00:46:43.400 worked up this is deplorable central eastern ohio western pennsylvania you see the little town of

00:46:48.720 east palestine it ain't the hamptons right it's one of these backbone of america working class towns

00:46:54.840 and it seems like when it deals with working class people nobody cares is it was divine did he say that

00:47:00.820 he actually had the authority he took charge of this and the epa wasn't anywhere around um yeah the

00:47:07.180 town of the town of east palestine is a wonderful little town 5 000 people about 50 miles from

00:47:12.800 pittsburgh in ohio um he never mentioned once the legal authority by which he went forward with this

00:47:19.920 controlled burn on february 6 and we were talking about the modeling it was done by the ohio national

00:47:25.800 guard and department of defense as far as i can tell he did not reference once any on-site monitor

00:47:32.740 from the epa at the location and frankly i think your guest uh who worked for the trump administration

00:47:39.740 department of justice makes a compelling case that the illegal authority for this should should have

00:47:45.740 rested with the epa's on-site monitor i don't know if there was in fact an epa on-site monitor there

00:47:52.740 on february 6th jeffrey clark was uh the head of the environmental uh branch uh as assistant uh

00:48:01.420 attorney general of the united states he'll be the attorney general of the united states

00:48:04.660 in the third trump victory second trump term jeffrey do you normally have the company do this i mean

00:48:11.500 i thought and something like this happens you have outside groups epa's got all these contractors that

00:48:16.260 are specialists in this that and i understand norfolk's other knows how to handle the hazard material but

00:48:21.820 shouldn't you bring in somebody and wouldn't you like to see an analysis between the controlled

00:48:26.380 release and the controlled burn they're two different things you do the control release so

00:48:30.520 you get it away from the cars they're not going to blow up but you get it out in the ditch and then

00:48:34.460 maybe you have the alternative of a scooping it up or sucking it up and you transport it out on ground

00:48:40.080 and not burn it into the earth's atmosphere would normally there be tons of analysis companies

00:48:46.440 they're talking and maybe norfolk southern has a point of view because what they want to do is get

00:48:50.760 the cars off the track and they want to get the track run it again because the time is money for

00:48:55.660 those guys wouldn't you have some independent group there saying hey let's think this through for a

00:48:59.900 second sir that's right steve you would have a seat at the table for norfolk southern right but you

00:49:07.360 would definitely have all of the relevant government agencies you know epa here is particularly key

00:49:12.880 because they have jurisdiction over both the clean air act and the clean water act and they would do

00:49:17.740 an analysis ideally right they different scenarios would be presented and they decide what the you

00:49:23.760 know safest option was and then if all else is equal right that that you know costs can be avoided

00:49:29.560 as another variable right then you but it's way down the list of how you would prioritize it look in

00:49:35.220 in the deep water horizon situation right there were endless analyses of you know how to try to cap the

00:49:42.560 well what kinds of remediation to take i'll tell you quick story about uh you know the in situ burns

00:49:49.080 that were done there like that spill was 40 miles off the coast and you know there was still controversy

00:49:55.140 about whether to burn it off or not right but at the end of the day it really was a no-brainer to do

00:50:01.000 uh that in situ burning 40 miles off the coast because it kept the oil from coming into shore and

00:50:07.020 the fouling you know oyster beds and and closing beaches and the like but here you're talking about

00:50:12.540 a residential area you're going to do a burn of a million pounds of vinyl chloride which basically

00:50:18.820 releases hydrochloric acid quickly in terms of how it reacts in the atmosphere and phosgene gas from

00:50:25.100 world war one i mean that seems like a very questionable decision steve i'd like to see

00:50:29.540 the environmental analysis that that came to that being the best option this is about we're going

00:50:36.260 to get to and we're going to get it by hook or crook because those folks out there deserve to know

00:50:40.160 about this phosgene by the way we only had a bunch of treaties after first world war it was so brutal

00:50:45.280 on humans right this is why the first world war is known as a killing fields because the gas you know

00:50:49.920 the the chemical weapons right there is created um it's so bizarre it was done like this and

00:50:57.000 particularly lahey the governor comes in with the guy with the water guy and they're saying yeah you

00:51:01.300 better be drinking bottled water particularly pregnant and and he and dewine answers a question 1.00

00:51:06.120 to say oh yeah i would be staying indoors is this dropping like a bomb in ohio right now michael patrick

00:51:12.900 lahey this this press conference this afternoon uh i i don't know there are a number of uh folks that

00:51:20.620 are actually on social media that are saying it's been overblown and then there are others that

00:51:26.980 are saying it's been underreported uh i think the local media i looked at cleveland.com before i

00:51:33.700 came on here and they they're reporting on the uh the press conference of course mainstream media

00:51:39.960 there they had nothing to say about who made the decision to do the control burn or the legal

00:51:45.820 authority they did emphasize wake them up yeah they did emphasize however that uh uh all of the the

00:51:53.820 the short-term air and water problems were not that great that's what they emphasize at cleveland.com

00:52:00.120 okay what would go uh right now uh how do they get to your site how do they get to you lahey

00:52:06.340 the ohio star.com the ohio star.com for this story the star news network.com for our site and

00:52:13.380 you can reach me on twitter getter and truth social michael p lahey

00:52:18.360 thank you jeffrey clark how do people get to you sir you're doing great work over the rough

00:52:24.020 vote and the team so our website is america renewing.com i'm at jeff clark us on twitter

00:52:31.300 and getter and at real jeff clark on truth social steve and we're gonna break some other news i'm

00:52:37.700 actually running the confirmation hearing for jeff clark for attorney general those are rachel maddow

00:52:42.220 chris hayes ari melber suck on that my man jeff clark thank you brother appreciate you coming on

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Bannon's War Room - February 14, 2023

Episode 2518： Persecution For Defending Your Land; DeWine Authorized The Controlled Burn

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