Bannon's War Room - February 16, 2023


Episode 2521: Getting Answers On The Hazardous Catastrophe In Ohio

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Episode 2519: Endless Escalation And Spending In Ukraine; EPA Questions In Ohio Episode 2525: FEMA Not Responding To Ohio Desaster

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The latest on the East Palmyra Train Derailment and the aftermath of the derailment in Ohio, and the damage to the surrounding area. Also, a new report on the impact of the explosion on the drinking water supply in East Palestine, PA.

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:10.360 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:16.940 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:20.700 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:24.300 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:32.120 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:40.040 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:00:47.280 all right we'll go to the online questions
00:00:55.140 hi hi yeah this is matthew kongam cook with the lever uh just wondering who besides norfolk southern
00:01:08.420 was consulted on in this decision to do control release was there independent information
00:01:16.460 collected by either the state of ohio or the commonwealth of pennsylvania that allowed you
00:01:22.860 to make a decision about the control release independent of what was being provided to you
00:01:28.960 by norfolk southern yeah we consulted as i indicated we consulted the ohio national guard was consulting
00:01:35.540 directly with the defense department uh the modeling was very important we wanted to know exactly what
00:01:40.860 the ramifications of the modeling would be uh or of the explosion would be uh so yes we we reached out
00:01:48.960 to every expert that certainly that we could find
00:01:51.760 new at six governor josh shapiro just sent a scathing letter blasting norfolk southern for its handling of
00:02:00.600 the east palestine train derailment yeah this news coming just hours after ohio governor mike dewine
00:02:04.800 briefed the media with the latest updates saying he's in frequent contract contact with the railroad ceo
00:02:10.560 megan schiller is here now to break down what we're learning about this just within uh the last
00:02:14.980 couple hours yeah this letter was just sent to our newsroom governor josh shapiro saying he is
00:02:19.600 seriously concerned with norfolk southern's handling of the trained derailment in east palestine ohio
00:02:24.560 just a quarter mile from the pennsylvania state line he says the railroad company failed to implement
00:02:30.500 a unified command creating confusion he says it gave out inaccurate and conflicting information
00:02:35.800 and lastly he believes it was unwilling to explore alternate courses of action instead of that vent
00:02:41.800 and burn approach that caused the plume we all saw the letter says quote you can be assured that
00:02:47.180 pennsylvania will hold norfolk southern accountable for any and all impacts in our commonwealth today's
00:02:53.320 press conference by ohio governor mike dewine had a slightly different tone he didn't necessarily call
00:02:59.080 out norfolk southern but he said he wants congress to look into why the current rules allowed for that
00:03:04.220 train to not be considered a hazardous train by its classification the governor called upon
00:03:09.520 environmental experts to brief the room including the director of the ohio department of natural
00:03:13.900 resources who today confirmed the event killed 3500 fish a total of 12 different species thankfully
00:03:21.840 the experts say that they don't have any evidence of non-aquatic species suffering from the derailment
00:03:26.620 as for the air they're claiming monitoring shows the air now looks just like it did before the
00:03:32.500 derailment and as for the water they want residents with private water sources to take action fast
00:03:39.540 we are strongly recommending those who have not yet had their water source checked
00:03:45.380 to use bottled water bottled water is being made available again same phone number that you can call
00:03:52.660 if you need access to that this is going to be particularly important if you are pregnant if you are
00:03:58.660 breastfeeding or if you are preparing formula for an infant so we would encourage you to avail yourself
00:04:06.180 of that of that water a lot of the people in the town are on municipal water and not private wells
00:04:13.380 so they are claiming the majority of people are getting water from their water reserves they're using the most
00:04:18.660 distant ones right now they say one thing that we did learn today is that when it comes to all the sludge
00:04:24.580 in that fire in the plume all the combustible materials they say they still didn't test yet
00:04:29.220 for the pfa compounds that you find in fire but they are working with the local emergency management to
00:04:34.500 start testing pfas in the drinking water another reason they say to stock up right now on bottled
00:04:40.020 water if you're anywhere in the area of that direction okay okay it is uh wednesday 15 february
00:04:49.140 year of war 2023 this is i can put this under the headline they don't care about the people there
00:04:54.820 they don't care about you you know we're the number one misinformation uh show and podcast in
00:05:00.820 the country because we question institutions what's that quote can you text me that quote of that woman 0.63
00:05:05.380 that did the uh brookings you damn right we do this is revolting and i take great pride uh with michael 0.51
00:05:13.060 patrick lahey at least being a tiny uh group that's forced these people to start coming forward 0.93
00:05:18.500 with their lies in their misrepresentations and just a gross incompetence michael patrick lahey you're 0.64
00:05:24.420 you're putting up another story right now explain to me first josh shapiro is now gotten off the
00:05:31.220 dime he said a blistering letter to the ceo but one things he was whining about he said hey we never
00:05:36.260 heard about it for a couple days or you know a while because nobody contacted my head of epa and that's
00:05:41.700 not the response the company yes they should but hey if they don't big deal your guys should be all over
00:05:46.580 this there you hear a different story every day about what they tested what they didn't test all
00:05:51.700 that walk us through where we stand right now at 5 p.m eastern standard time on the 15th on wednesday
00:05:59.060 the 15th and this entire thing michael patrick lahey well uh the the headline here is that the governor
00:06:06.260 of pennsylvania josh shapiro steve agrees with you yesterday on your program you said that it was a
00:06:14.020 mistake just to look at one option to do the the vent and burn the controlled burn of vinyl chloride
00:06:19.460 there were other options he completely agrees with you he he released his letter i think about half
00:06:24.500 an hour after you said that and that kdka report came just a little bit after you said that the other
00:06:31.140 thing that's noticeable about this is josh sapiro wants to entirely be separated from the we uh the
00:06:39.620 collective we that governor mike dewine of ohio said were responsible for the control the control burn
00:06:47.060 decision in fact he put this all he put this all up um on a norfolk southern his letter didn't mention
00:06:55.700 a word uh about the governor of ohio which i found quite interesting but look that letter basically and
00:07:03.540 the story is up now by the way at ohio star the ohio star headline pennsylvania governor blast north
00:07:10.340 norfolk southern for quote vent and burn plan in aftermath of train derailment listen to this steve
00:07:17.460 so in the letter he took the ceo of norfolk southern to task uh because they provided inaccurate
00:07:26.020 information and conflicting modeling about the impact of the controlled release that made protective
00:07:33.380 action decision making more difficult in the immediate aftermath of the derailment and then he agreed
00:07:39.300 with you uh he criticized norfolk southern for uh their unwillingness to explore or uh or articulate
00:07:48.420 alternate courses of action to their proposed vent and burned uh and that that he said that limited
00:07:55.700 state and local government government officials uh from acting properly so hold it
00:08:00.980 but it's but when they say it's not upon norfolk southern to give the only model that's fine they
00:08:07.620 should do it they're the company but their their um their focus is going to be get these uh get these
00:08:14.580 tankers off the track so we can clear the track and get trains running again and and and try to make some
00:08:19.860 money here when he says conflicting models from the company yeah that's bad they gave but that's not
00:08:25.700 there you you cannot base your decisions on models from the company we're going to be talking about
00:08:33.700 financial models in a second guess what ladies and gentlemen the congressional budget office just
00:08:37.940 gave us the model for the next 10 years what have we been asking for for the biden administration to do
00:08:41.940 it well the cbo did it okay because we asked for these models let's get to reality what's the math in
00:08:47.700 back of this the model ladies and gentlemen navarro's going to come in here in a second 1.00
00:08:52.980 19 trillion dollars added to the national debt over the next 10 years let me repeat that 19 trillion
00:08:59.380 dollars that's 1.9 trillion dollars per year like i said it was going to be okay that means you're over
00:09:04.660 50 trillion dollars in the countries out of business that model doesn't work but at least they put it
00:09:09.540 forward the same thing here when you make these complicated so you just can't wing it it's not a field
00:09:14.980 play you got to have common sense but that that is all based around what the science and the math
00:09:21.380 tell you you know we believe in evidence data and science here at the war room not happy talk
00:09:27.460 and now all you do is getting spinning this thing's totally coming one is the wine when are you going
00:09:31.300 to press the wine because the wine is lying here didn't the wine said we just had the clip up here he
00:09:36.260 said the dod what the hell's the defense department got to do with this i don't care the defense department's
00:09:40.980 fine i'll get another opinion but i don't care about the defense department tell me which way the
00:09:44.820 wind's going to blow i want the guy that's accountable in response i want the node of
00:09:50.420 responsibility accountability right boom right there and authority that that three boom who is in that
00:09:57.300 who's in that nexus when i look at the when i look at the flow chart responsibility authority and
00:10:02.580 accountability who is in that box oh it's the field commander for epa what's that guy's name you
00:10:08.580 you notice they haven't come have they responded to your request to epa to give the name and the
00:10:14.980 function and that they make the decision michael patrick lahey epa has said nothing to us since we
00:10:21.060 asked for them to give us the name of the on-site coordinator and whether or not they made the
00:10:25.380 decision to do the vent and burn which of the former assistant attorney general uh clark who was uh your
00:10:31.300 guest uh yesterday said was the legal authority by the way we've also asked governor dewine by what
00:10:36.980 authority did you governor dewine authorize this vent and burn they've not responded to us on that
00:10:43.700 and also notice that governor josh shapiro is completely distancing himself from the collective
00:10:49.700 we who made this vent and burned decision right he's putting it all on norfolk southern presumably they
00:10:56.180 gave the advice to mike dewine uh but this is a huge huge mess okay and a scathing i'm gonna go
00:11:04.100 uh yes no i'm gonna go out on a limb here the model when it finally comes we got to get the
00:11:10.020 model on the control there's two things the control list they got the crash and you got the national
00:11:14.500 safety board's got to be on that and what me worry alfred e buddha judge where is this clown right he
00:11:20.980 should be on top of that and he should have been on top of the the modeling for you have two things a
00:11:26.340 controlled release and then the controlled burn number one and i'm just going to say it i will guarantee
00:11:32.820 the model does not back up the fact that there were going to be sure the excuse that he used it's
00:11:39.220 going to be it's going to be um in jeopardy these unstable elements it's going to blow up and you can
00:11:44.500 put shards of the iron those iron tankers are going to be in houses and people's heads everywhere
00:11:49.860 blown sky high i'm calling bs on that they wanted to get that stuff out there so they could remove the
00:11:56.020 go ahead governor shapiro must have been listening to you on war room yesterday because in his letter
00:12:03.220 he said uh you failed to look at all the other array of alternatives that might have taken longer but
00:12:08.820 would have been safer so you know he's not a former naval officer i've checked that out uh but i don't
00:12:15.860 i think he's got a little bit i don't think he's a fan i don't i don't think he's a fan of war room so
00:12:21.540 michael patrick lahey where did where does your reporting and your investigative reporting with
00:12:26.500 this crack staff you get where does it go from here well again our great reporters on this both
00:12:31.860 matt kittle our national reporter who just put the story up about the pennsylvania governor and then
00:12:36.580 hannah poling uh who's based in ohio who's been asking the governor to respond and the epa to respond
00:12:43.300 where we need to look right now steve is we've got to get the epa to respond and the department of
00:12:49.540 justice to respond to the legal authority used to authorize uh this vent and burn this uh controlled
00:12:58.180 burn of this very dangerous uh vinyl chloride on february 6th i think the law is going to create a
00:13:04.900 very big problem for mike line and and and give me and give me the control release by the way cnn
00:13:10.740 you get licked you want to get start covering news you don't need to send them halfway around the world
00:13:15.860 just send them out there to eastern ohio big story breaking you guys should be all over should
00:13:20.580 be 20 people there's nobody crickets msnbc crickets except having except they had uh they needed a
00:13:28.020 cleanup in aisle three so they let the wine come on not one hard question got asked of the wine today
00:13:32.980 came on morning mika and it was a cleanup in aisle three hey guess what the war room's there you're you've
00:13:38.420 broken too many bottles you're not gonna you're not gonna get a cleanup this is outrageous and it's
00:13:43.540 because it's working class people who they don't think count and they don't think has any power 0.81
00:13:49.700 that's why they're doing this leahy how do they get to the ohio star star news network you on twitter
00:13:55.700 uh i recommend right now going to the ohio star.com the ohio star.com it published about five minutes
00:14:03.220 ago our story there uh about governor shapiro in essence agreeing with steve bannon that there should
00:14:10.900 have been more options considered and he's re he would have recommended i think from that he would
00:14:15.620 have preferred a slower take but a safer approach the ohio star.com and you can reach me on twitter
00:14:23.380 yeah twitter getter and uh true social michael p lake
00:14:29.700 okay we're gonna talk about twitter pino bros got something to say about that about kerry lake and about
00:14:33.540 its impression of these uh election fraud thank you leahy fantastic job short break
00:14:42.100 josh shapiro does not agree with war room very often okay but this story speaks to so much what's
00:14:48.260 wrong in this nation and it's not about taking hazardous materials across the country you got to do that
00:14:54.340 it's about how they treat people the little guy next despite the u.s blowing through 31.4 trillion
00:15:03.780 dollar debt ceiling in january the leftist white house still refuses to reduce spending while our
00:15:09.300 national leadership has buried their heads in the sand when it comes to fiscal responsibility it's time
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00:16:33.380 way cpac.org slash war room go there now 47 off the face amount of the ticket price is 248 we want
00:16:40.900 everybody there you're going to be part of the audience it's going to be spectacular
00:16:43.940 you're going to talk about it forever we're in dc and we're firing off the football there's going
00:16:49.060 to be so much going on right after the first year anniversary of the ukraine war also congress is
00:16:54.980 going to be back they're all going to be over there we get to meet those guys too and we'll be talking
00:16:58.540 about all the big negotiations investigations debt ceiling all of it peter before i go to the work
00:17:04.180 we got with you today just your thoughts you've been the tribune of the working man in this country
00:17:09.940 no person alive today has done more for working class peoples and high value added jobs than peter
00:17:17.300 navarre as the deputy to donald j trump to bring jobs back here give me give me your assessment
00:17:23.060 of of just how it's playing between corporations and government federal and state and local authorities in
00:17:29.380 uh east palestine ohio sir yeah yeah the uh the mega deplorables uh took the short end of that 0.97
00:17:39.220 ticket you know corporations basically focus on profit maximization cost minimization 0.77
00:17:46.900 and the biden regime focuses on covering their ass and you get caught in the middle steve and you've 0.51
00:17:52.500 covered this well i can't i don't have anything to add to what you and uh michael patrick lehi have added 0.94
00:17:58.180 i will note putting a couple of points together that these toxic burns are deadly we we when we cover
00:18:06.660 this budget story about how we're going to double our debt um there's close to a trillion dollars for
00:18:14.980 veterans and this is good um because of the toxic burn pits in iraq okay toxic burns kill okay so don't
00:18:25.300 tell me that when they do that uh in ohio it's not going to possibly uh endanger people and at the
00:18:34.100 time the toxic burn pits were going on steve in iraq nobody understood the long-term consequences so
00:18:40.260 don't tell me today that nobody got hurt yeah by the way peter one thing i'm gonna play the debt ceiling
00:18:47.860 thing here in a second but we're not about profit we're not against profit maximization that is what
00:18:52.740 with being a good corporate citizen norfolk southern should be but it shouldn't be their
00:18:58.500 solo decision and they shouldn't just be putting out the models and people just accept it at face
00:19:02.420 value and let's just go ahead do the control release because we're afraid of the shards and
00:19:07.300 then do an open pit burn like you said we just had this massive controversy that got fought for like
00:19:12.420 i don't know 10 years because of the cost of it this this open pit burns right that the comedian
00:19:18.660 was all over and they had the big fight here last summer yeah corporations maximize profits what
00:19:24.980 they sometimes don't do is incorporate what's called the externalities the external costs or benefits
00:19:33.940 into their profit maximization equation so because of that they make wrong decisions and sometimes the
00:19:40.100 government's got to get involved but here the government's getting involved in a way to cover 0.58
00:19:44.660 their ass not take care of the deplorables and the people because it is it is the working class 1.00
00:19:50.420 the middle class who are at the front lines of these kinds of things so keep following this story 0.97
00:19:55.860 once again the beacon of disinformation in the war room has the best information of anyone in the
00:20:02.660 country okay we're going to keep shoving that up their keister every friggin day i got to get some 0.89
00:20:08.980 quickly off my chest i need everybody in the pot to understand that twitter is remains corrupt that 0.55
00:20:16.340 elon musk is not your savior the twitter bots i know i hope elon will get to do something about this
00:20:23.220 tomorrow the twitter bots are still immediately scrubbing anything that has words like stolen
00:20:30.420 election i put up an alert about the second episode of my taking back trump's america mega podcast
00:20:38.580 went up on twitter right and what didn't go up yeah i put it up on getter went right up put it
00:20:46.580 right on true social went right up i tried it again i tried it three times and that thing it was scary
00:20:53.220 to me steve they we were able to immediately bury it it wasn't like it went up and they put an alert
00:20:59.220 on or went up and they took it down it didn't even reach the the the the the tweet okay that's
00:21:07.060 unacceptable and you and i you and i steve have been a hardest on elon musk well our good friend
00:21:14.820 darren beady and others have tried to make musk a hero the fan i know you and i know steve that elon
00:21:23.140 musk is neck deep nose deep in the chinese communist party one snap of the fingers and xi jinping and wipe 0.97
00:21:31.220 out all of tesla so he's anti-mega he's anti-trump and god i was like done i was stunned yesterday 0.96
00:21:39.460 steve to realize that those friggin twitter bots are still active in there shame on elon musk
00:21:45.620 everybody in the posse tweet this because this is just wrong go to my twitter feed real p navarro 0.80
00:21:51.780 and go to get her better yeah you can see what what she missed i mean i had i had a tweet about
00:21:57.220 carrie lake that's the most blatant steal we've ever seen twitter will not let that up there 1.00
00:22:04.580 hold it because you had the terms carrie lake and stolen elections in there they they not just
00:22:09.060 suppressed it they buried it yeah yeah and joe kent i had joe kent up there it's one of them or you
00:22:14.980 know some combination of stolen election or just stolen election who knows what their bots do
00:22:21.220 you know that's the point that's the point joe kent man that guy was in a plus seven republican
00:22:28.500 district and he got wiped out not by the democrats he got wiped out by the republicans
00:22:36.020 the congressional leadership in the house of representatives running attack ads against him
00:22:42.020 and i that's like this this this maga documentary i want everybody go to watch this um it's up on the
00:22:49.780 war room it's up on you can go to my twitter feed my get a feed real p navarro and it said apple
00:22:55.540 podcast and google podcast it's essential listening but i was i was stunned dude yeah elon you can't
00:23:02.580 friggin do this stuff to the american people and then try to show that you're kind of some champion of 0.99
00:23:07.940 free speech i'm calling a bull ass on you man you're just you're just a chinese communist party puppet okay 1.00
00:23:14.340 okay okay let's go let's play the debt ceiling denver if you go ahead and play the debt ceiling 0.99
00:23:20.020 cold open i'm gonna get peter in here the congressional budget office now says the u.s will default on its
00:23:26.020 debt as soon as july that is later than the june default that the treasury secretary janet yellen
00:23:32.340 predicted which could mean that debt limit negotiations will feel even less urgent right now some house
00:23:38.740 republicans find themselves in the unusual position of agreeing with house progressives and hoping to
00:23:45.380 cut some spending from defense a prospect real enough that senate republicans are warning them to
00:23:50.660 stay away from the pentagon according to reporting this morning from our friends at punch bowl joining us
00:23:56.420 now is one of our friends from punch bowl a punch bowl news co-founder and msnbc contributor jake
00:24:01.780 sherman also with us is cnbc senior white house correspondent kayla taushey so kayla i'm going to begin with you
00:24:06.660 um treasury says they're still sticking to their june deadline that's when they believe uh the u.s
00:24:12.660 economy or the u.s will default on its debts uh what's the status of the negotiations you can tell
00:24:18.340 us between the white house and republicans are you hearing anything and and how is the number two
00:24:23.780 at the fed moving over to the white house lael brainard going to affect these negotiations well
00:24:29.140 certainly katie um when dr brainer moves over to the national economic council this is going to be
00:24:34.500 the number one issue that she will have to tackle and she's going to be leaning on some long-term
00:24:39.540 relationships that she has up on capitol hill to try to advance those negotiations and broker some
00:24:44.660 sort of deal but right now it's sort of a stalemate between the hill and the white house with republicans
00:24:50.740 on the hill saying you know president biden show us your budget well the white house is planning to
00:24:55.540 release its budget on march 9th and then perhaps from there republicans will look at the fine print on
00:25:01.540 what the administration releases and figure out what's in that blueprint that it does that they
00:25:05.940 don't like and that they want to cut out as what they see as wasteful spending uh we should note also
00:25:11.780 also that treasury is always usually more conservative on what it calls this x date the date uh when it
00:25:18.420 sees a potential default in the works it said june 5th but you don't really like to get too close to
00:25:24.820 that because of how much it can rattle uh domestic and international financial markets and so uh
00:25:31.780 certainly treasury is very conservative but the congressional budget office today said it could
00:25:35.860 be earlier than july it just really depends on you know what tax season looks like and how much
00:25:41.380 revenue the u.s actually gets from corporations and individuals paying their taxes this year got it
00:25:46.180 kayla thank you very much jake house republicans how serious are they about dipping into the pentagon
00:25:52.340 okay we're gonna get to maybe jake uh later i jumped in early but thanks denver um because i'm
00:26:00.180 burning daylight here um here's the essential things okay hang on yeah hang on hang on a second i'm
00:26:06.580 robbing the strain um because i want to get the new york times article up because you can only say this
00:26:12.100 in context now first off the buried lead there we demanded they put forward the treasury put forward
00:26:18.500 or the fed put forward immediately the model what they're going to do is wait they are going to do
00:26:22.180 it now march 9th in the budget process but the budget is is not what i'm talking about i'm talking
00:26:27.540 something much more detailed that's that's what they want to do for spending and for revenue coming
00:26:32.660 in is much more detailed and going forward about where they stand now the congressional budget office
00:26:39.140 the cbo put out today a 10-year projection based upon assumptions they've made the cbo is a it's
00:26:49.220 it's part it's partisan right but it's as close to that in the congressional research service are as
00:26:54.980 close as you're going to get to something straight in this town it just is their projections ladies and
00:27:00.660 gentlemen are 19 trillion dollars added to the national debt 19 trillion dollars added to the
00:27:08.180 national debt in the next 10 years that's 1.9 trillion dollars per year for the next 10 years
00:27:14.660 roughly and they don't i don't think have all the full calculations for all the financing charges or the
00:27:19.220 correct assumption of financing charges let me cut to the chase that model is doa that does not work
00:27:26.500 it is impossible if we go down that uh this country was going to be over okay finished and
00:27:32.900 this is the cbo in fact the new york times reporting on it says well this is going to
00:27:36.820 this is going to heighten the debate over a potential financial crisis we're facing we're
00:27:41.940 gonna get peter peter of ours with me we're gonna take a short commercial break we're back into it
00:27:45.380 we got monica crowley on ukraine we got a lot going on today but you should know because of your
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00:29:58.580 we've had our first confirmed we've had our first confirmed kill in the war room i'll give you have to read
00:30:03.860 the memoir to get that one okay peter navarre tell me about the uh the debt negotiation what's happening
00:30:09.940 over treasury in the 19 trillion dollars of new debt that is talked about here in the congressional
00:30:15.620 budget office report
00:30:18.820 team first of all you buried the lead in the cbo report their their conclusion was like you would say
00:30:26.100 and the warning says this budget is unsustainable and what they say is in the quote long run
00:30:35.380 we're going to either have to cut spending or raise taxes and of course you and i know that the best
00:30:41.700 case would be instead to do this in the short run using the debt ceiling limit negotiations as our
00:30:50.420 leverage now there's a couple things in the spending posse needs to know about as you've been saying
00:30:57.860 steve 10 trillion dollars 10 trillion dollars of spending over the next decade alone will be servicing
00:31:08.420 the interest on the national debt okay 10 trillion dollars can you imagine how many schools and bridges
00:31:18.180 and and and payments to social security and medicare and defense spending could be spent with
00:31:25.860 10 trillion dollars and you can bet the cbo has underestimated the interest rate let me tell you one
00:31:32.740 other thing steve the cuts that mccarthy's going to negotiate i go with like whatever russ vote says but
00:31:41.140 the thing that sticks in my craw is that biden's plan to boost electric vehicle production includes these
00:31:48.980 huge subsidies for american manufacturers which is fine plus okay any country with which we have a free
00:32:01.620 trade agreement okay so that money is going to go straight where south of the border to mexico american
00:32:09.940 taxpayers are going to subsidize yeah moving electric vehicle production well plus mexico and the
00:32:16.420 cost is going to be enormous we that we got to get all the climate change madness
00:32:21.620 yeah well all the climate change esg yeah and and the interest payments will never be a 10 trillion
00:32:29.620 it's going to be more because the interest rates are going to jack yeah we got a lot to get to here's
00:32:34.580 the headline cbo came out today completely concurred with the worms analysis that this thing's spinning
00:32:41.220 beyond out of control it's got to stop now the numbers are out there biting them are going to try
00:32:46.420 to refute it but it can't be refuted this thing's got to stop and this uh audience is going to be the
00:32:51.460 one to stop let's go ahead and play the package on nikki haley and let me get peter nevarus take on
00:32:56.100 that before i get monica crowley up let's go ahead and roll you know this about me i don't put up with 1.00
00:33:01.300 bullies and when you kick back it hurts them more if you're wearing heels i'm nikki haley and i'm running
00:33:08.900 for president i'm more confident than ever that we can make this vision real in our time because that's
00:33:19.620 what i've seen my entire life as a brown girl growing up in a black and white world i saw the
00:33:26.740 promise of america unfold before me as the proud wife of a combat veteran i saw our people's deep
00:33:34.180 love of part of an article in the bulwark here's what it says quote on paper nikki haley should be a
00:33:40.820 top-tier contender in the 2024 republican primary she's a successful former governor from an important
00:33:46.900 early primary state she has an impressive personal backstory solid foreign policy chops
00:33:52.740 and great candidate skills too this used to be an extremely attractive package for gop primary voters
00:33:59.620 used to be but not anymore why not charlie well that's uh my colleague sarah longwell and she's
00:34:07.300 absolutely right um you know if you go back to uh 2015 or you go back to uh 2013 when the republican
00:34:14.020 party was trying to figure out how it was going to change its image she would have been the answer 1.00
00:34:18.660 but the problem is that the republican party has changed the base has changed uh you can't just erase
00:34:25.220 70 years of the trump legacy and the way in which this party has been transformed so um the appeal she's
00:34:33.220 making does look very very good in paper but she's appealing to a party that that just no longer 1.00
00:34:40.020 exists and i'm i'm i'm a little bit puzzled to uh to understand exactly what lane she thinks that
00:34:47.700 she's going to be in um she is uh she's alienated the the hardcore trump um supporters by by running 1.00
00:34:55.700 and yet she has uh flip-flopped so many times on donald trump that she's certainly not an anti-trump
00:35:01.380 candidate so i'm just not sure what her lane is right now and so as of today this is still a party that
00:35:08.100 is waiting on ron desantis and and sort of um you know the the rest of the field the truth is where
00:35:15.780 is she going to get her votes trump's base isn't leaving him uh she's not going to be able to go
00:35:20.100 through him and if she tries to go to his right or tries to go to his left there isn't a base there so
00:35:25.700 i believe in a path through victory and i just don't see that path for her especially if somebody
00:35:30.740 else gets in the race because then the ones that aren't necessarily trump fans they're going to just
00:35:36.180 divide them but trump's base is solid and they're not leaving him so will will your thoughts change
00:35:42.340 when and if ron desantis gets into the race no look i president trump as i said in my endorsement
00:35:48.580 isn't just somebody that i'm endorsing because i think he's the best to lead us through the rocky road
00:35:54.420 ahead unfortunately that biden has put us in but he's also a friend of mine he's a friend of my family
00:35:59.620 when my son got hurt he took a special interest he actually came to bakersfield california to see my son
00:36:05.060 when he was going through intense cognitive rehab uh he's a he's a friend to our family and i i will
00:36:10.820 i will support him all the way through this race all right okay uh dr peter var just for policy just
00:36:18.260 explain to the audience what i mean that republican party is gone just let's leave the personalities
00:36:22.820 aside that the fact she's ambitious as lucifer um because people get remember and the media always gets
00:36:28.820 it wrong she quit a couple of weeks before the 2018 midterm basically saying i'm not with him
00:36:34.180 right orange man bad um but just on a policy basis when they say that she represents a a party that no
00:36:41.220 longer is this she's a classic neocon neoliberal what's changed dr peter navarro uh let's be clear 0.97
00:36:49.300 she is a useful idiot for the club for growth and for the coke brothers she's going to get a lot of money 1.00
00:36:56.660 from the never trump wing of the party to simply attack trump at the top of the top of the cold 1.00
00:37:03.540 open where she's talking about kicking bullies with her high heels in the groin i mean you know 1.00
00:37:09.860 that was aimed right at at donald john trump so well let's not be clear about that one thing i can tell
00:37:15.460 you from a personal level being inside the white house steve is that yeah i saw cable traffic and
00:37:21.780 and all this stuff where when she was u.n ambassador she tried to create her own little
00:37:27.220 fiefdom there and would not cooperate or follow policy from the oval office and i knew then that
00:37:34.180 she was a cautious ambitious backstabber and in my taking back trump's american book when i handicapped
00:37:40.740 the vice president uh for for donald trump she is on the no-fly zone at the very top of the list just
00:37:48.660 below uh mike pence so this is not a woman that anyone should trust okay she can take her high 1.00
00:37:57.460 heels and sigma the sun don't shine you don't think she's going to be in the short list for vp correct
00:38:05.220 if she's in the short list for vp then lindsey graham's going to be president okay for the candidate 1.00
00:38:10.980 no okay no i mean your genes okay boss boss mar-a-lago can you hear me do not go near that 0.96
00:38:18.740 woman she will stick you with her high heels in the groin now never mind the knife in the back 1.00
00:38:25.060 he knows better come on okay i get like a pocket friend i got you know but boy did she screw up 0.98
00:38:31.460 the u.n ambassador meet me meet media matters got their headline real quickly give me on january 6th
00:38:38.340 yes yeah i love media matters what's your name what's the woman give me give me give me the 15
00:38:45.700 seconds 15 seconds tell about your podcast tonight you got 15 seconds yeah uh episode four is breaking
00:38:52.660 tomorrow real p navarro on twitter and getter you go to apple podcast google podcast it's the taking back
00:39:00.100 trump's american podcast you just got to listen to this thing because it defines our mission
00:39:06.580 which is to make sure people understand what mega means so that we don't get our clock cleaned in the
00:39:11.860 2024 election it's a great easily consumable documentary series and i steve i appreciate you uh
00:39:18.820 let me have a little time on that no problem nikki says hi by the way in the top 50 yeah and if if 0.65
00:39:26.100 elon if if elon would let it if elon would not suppress it it'd be in the top 10 thank you very
00:39:31.140 much dr peter navarro appreciate it brother talk soon brother okay let's um monica crowley
00:39:39.940 uh cbs news broke overnight that the balloon left hanan i don't know around 20 january we got uh we've
00:39:46.820 got uh john kirby saying we came uh we were uh dang near close to going wheels up with a blinking on
00:39:54.500 friday to get over to beijing how big a problem does joe is this why joe biden's hiding from the
00:39:59.700 media does he have a massive problem right now forget the ufos forget all that does he have a
00:40:04.500 massive problem on this chinese spy balloon ma'am thanks for having me steve um joe biden has a more
00:40:12.180 intense problem than just with the ccp although that is the biggest problem with regard to joe biden 1.00
00:40:18.900 and biden family corruption because the ccp is our premier adversary of course and we are facing a 1.00
00:40:24.740 multi-front multi-pronged hydra headed threat uh from the ccp and this man is completely compromised 1.00
00:40:32.340 by his business dealings and taking tens of millions of dollars from the ccp and related enterprises
00:40:37.940 so that is certainly the biggest of them all um he's compromised in every other direction with regard
00:40:43.540 to foreign policy as well whether it's ukraine or other entities other foreign entities businesses
00:40:49.300 regimes and so on and so for the american people they need to understand that the the presidency is
00:40:56.020 divided into two roles you've got the president as the chief executive of the country but his other
00:41:02.260 role just as important if not more is as commander in chief and so the american people need to really
00:41:08.740 think and have a lot of questions answered as to whether or not joe biden when he is operating in
00:41:14.020 the foreign policy national security sphere if he is representing america's interests as the american
00:41:21.380 commander-in-chief should or if he's representing his own and his family's interests and putting america's
00:41:27.860 interests last i think you know over the last two years steve we've got a pretty clear picture
00:41:32.660 that this is america last in every way shape and form but when it comes to the ccp which is a very
00:41:38.500 sophisticated enemy perhaps the most sophisticated enemy the united states has ever faced more so
00:41:45.700 than the soviet union during the cold war this is a much more serious threat we have a commander-in-chief
00:41:51.540 who is beholden to that enemy it's completely outrageous and if you wrote it as a novel no one would believe
00:41:59.060 it uh monica we want to hold you through the break but i got to ask you a question right now
00:42:04.820 they're in panic mode because the russians are pounding away at the strategic villages and hamlets 1.00
00:42:10.660 in eastern ukraine bakhmut being one of them and we now understand they're running out of ammo and
00:42:15.780 there's no possible it's going to be very difficult for the west to resupply because we've burned through
00:42:20.900 all the ammo how did the geniuses in the pentagon and the national security council not calculate this
00:42:26.100 out monica crowley excuse me steve bannon but we have sent well over a hundred billion dollars to
00:42:32.900 this fight uh in ukraine for the ukrainian forces uh and other entities on the ground there to push
00:42:39.620 back against the russians where is all that money gone i mean if they're running out of bullets which
00:42:44.820 is the most basic form of ammunition what else are they running out of where has this money been directed
00:42:50.340 this gets to the core of the question over a hundred billion dollars over there with no oversight
00:42:55.940 no transparency and no accountability remember a couple of months ago i was on the show we were
00:43:01.060 talking about the report that quickly got squashed about how the weapons that we were sending over
00:43:06.820 there and i assume that also includes ammunition was not making it to the front lines well then where
00:43:13.140 is it going are the ukrainians hoarding it are they passing it off to terrorist organizations like al-qaeda
00:43:21.060 hamas hezbollah isis who knows we have no idea where this weaponry is going and so you know
00:43:27.620 that not one more penny not one more bullet to ukraine until we have a full accounting
00:43:34.660 monica hang on i'm gonna hold you to the break i've got rebecca kopfler we're gonna have darren beady
00:43:39.300 in the next hour get joe ellen the next hour had daniel horowitz in the next hour we have naomi
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00:46:18.420 congress is going to be there on we're on we're on uh offense on the investigations the massive debt
00:46:24.180 ceiling negotiations right after the first anniversary of the ukraine war monica crowley uh
00:46:29.700 ma'am the the financial times today has got she with the mullahs giving full military review in uh in
00:46:35.540 beijing and then it's got the headlines russia masses aircraft within striking range of ukraine targets
00:46:41.780 i'll tell you folks if you go back and read the newspapers and i did it one time
00:46:45.300 uh on on fish on fish i guess it was called back in the 1980s in the pentagon's library
00:46:52.580 in the run-up of the new york times and the times of london to the to the world war ii
00:46:57.060 these are the headlines monica crowley you're an expert in this you're one of the top geopolitical
00:47:01.860 minds i know and you learned under a master richard nixon are we at the early years of the third world
00:47:07.700 war ma'am well thank you for that very kind compliment steve i really appreciate that um yeah i think
00:47:14.820 we're pretty far down the road into world war iii already i mean look with regard to the ccp we know 1.00
00:47:21.700 because we we heard from the ccp and the pla uh themselves in the 1990s about unrestricted warfare 0.85
00:47:30.100 this is what they call it not my words the ccp and pla's words unrestricted warfare what does that mean
00:47:36.260 that means a multi-pronged attack against the united states and the wider western world the chinese 0.99
00:47:42.820 from the early 1990s there it is uh they've been been engaged in exactly that unrestricted warfare
00:47:49.380 that means economic warfare political warfare cultural warfare diplomatic warfare and we we all
00:47:56.100 know that american weakness is provocative so whenever america is weak whether it's in real terms
00:48:02.180 or perceived as weak doesn't really matter because our after our adversaries take full uh advantage of
00:48:09.540 that and now what you're seeing is other enemies of the united states aligned with the ccp aligned with
00:48:16.420 russia so you've got iran now deeply in bed with russia of course particularly on ukraine but other areas
00:48:22.340 the ccp now aligned with iran so what you were witnessing right now is the creation of a new axis the
00:48:30.500 axis powers of world war ii they came together because they were ideologically similar they had
00:48:36.180 similar strategic goals to destroy the united states and the west and world domination what do you think
00:48:42.020 the ccp is all about same goal world domination and they will ally with any entity and or any regime 0.98
00:48:50.180 that also shares that goal and so whether it's the mullahs in iran or vladimir putin's regime 0.95
00:48:56.580 the north koreans any other regime on the face of the earth the islamic fundamentalist terrorist 0.98
00:49:01.620 organizations they all will get in bed together to accomplish the destruction of the united states 0.69
00:49:07.860 and the west and then the fun for them really begins because once they accomplish that if they
00:49:14.180 accomplish that if we don't get our act together to really push back strategically and in every other
00:49:20.260 way then they will go at each other for world domination but that's way down the road steve we are in
00:49:27.060 world war iii right now and it expresses itself in kinetic ways in certain areas and non-kinetic ways
00:49:35.220 in other areas but as we go down this road of america's managed decline certainly under joe biden
00:49:42.660 the kinetic part of world war ii is going to accelerate and it's going to get more intense and americans
00:49:50.020 better wake up really fast because our freedoms right now that they're under direct assault but we've
00:49:56.180 already lost so many of them and unless we step up with real leadership to take us into the future
00:50:03.140 the america we know and love is in fact is slipping away so fast right now but it will be permanently
00:50:09.700 gone it will be irreversible if we don't take advantage of this small window of opportunity that we have
00:50:15.860 right now uh monica how do people get to your podcast and all your content oh thank you steve so the
00:50:23.540 podcast is the monica crowley podcast you can get it on all podcast platforms google apple spotify
00:50:31.060 stitcher wherever you get your podcast i do three days a week monday wednesday friday today i've got
00:50:36.180 an in-depth conversation with investigative journalist and independent journalist peter sweden out of europe
00:50:43.380 who gives us a deep dive into the great reset and the globalist cabal because europe is much more
00:50:50.260 uh down the road than we are in terms of the great reset it's all coming here very fast so he gives
00:50:56.980 us a real necessary wake-up call uh based on what he's seeing in europe so that's today and a lot more
00:51:04.020 coming up on the monica crowley podcast so i hope everybody checks it out we'll make sure we're put
00:51:09.940 up i'll put it up on uh getter and everywhere thank you very much monica honored to have you on here
00:51:14.580 thank you steve rebecca koffler uh have has a great piece up on uh on uh fox by the way rebecca i'm
00:51:23.060 gonna start here and put you into the six o'clock show just real quickly your headlines of your article
00:51:27.620 in fox news china is already at war with america and the bide administration is ignoring the signpost
00:51:34.900 you're a you're a you're from dia geopolitics when the mula when they're showing the mullahs getting a
00:51:39.620 full military view in beijing is that telling us they're bringing their allies also into the war
00:51:45.220 against america we got 30 seconds man give me a heads up and we'll take you to the next hour
00:51:51.220 absolutely just like monica said we have every um strategic adversary of the united states russia
00:51:59.460 china iranian mullahs north korea joining forces uh to prepare both kinetically and non-kinetically
00:52:08.100 kinetically for war and so in this article i describe how all the signposts that china
00:52:16.180 is preparing for this war growing space order of battle it has xi jinping has appointed a wartime
00:52:24.500 cabinet and so the gloves are off and unfortunately joe biden again has no strategy how to deal with this
00:52:34.580 top strategic threat rebecca hang on we're going to take you into the six o'clock hour we're going
00:52:40.740 to take a short commercial break it's a minute or two we'll be up on six we got the rebecca koffler
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