Bannon's War Room - February 18, 2023


Episode 2529: Ukraine 'We Will Never Have Enough Weapons


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

174.74934

Word Count

8,970

Sentence Count

19

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

In this episode, I sit down with Matt Perno, the current candidate for the Michigan Republican State Convention, to talk about his campaign and what he s been up to since the beginning of his campaign. He talks about his plans for the future of the party and how he s fighting to bring credibility back to the party.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:09.640 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:16.240 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:20.000 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:23.580 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:31.400 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:39.340 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:00:46.560 okay welcome back it is uh saturday 18 february year of our lord 2023 let's go out to michigan
00:00:55.420 matt to perno big day matt for the grassroots movement for maga for the deplorables uh and
00:01:01.880 the trump movement and yourself tell us what's going on yeah absolutely steve thanks for having
00:01:07.160 me on uh we're at the republican state convention right now i'm running to be the michigan chairman
00:01:13.980 of the party uh because it's time to fix this party uh we recruited a lot of delegates over the
00:01:19.800 last uh year and a half to two years following your plan now it's time to give those delegates a
00:01:25.300 voice bring credibility back to the party figure out how to raise money in michigan and start winning
00:01:30.840 elections isn't isn't this the establishment's worst nightmare i mean why would they ever allow
00:01:37.760 matt to perno in the precinct strategy folks steve stern you know uh dan schultz all the great
00:01:43.720 patriots why in a million years would the money allow matt to perno who's their worst nightmare to
00:01:49.260 become chairman of the michigan gop so yeah well it is their worst nightmare it's something they're
00:01:55.040 terrified of but uh we're going to go outside of michigan and help raise money to bring it back
00:01:59.960 here because a lot of people across this great country care about michigan they want the electoral
00:02:04.980 votes to go to the republican candidate for president uh they know this is a swing state and right now we
00:02:11.680 got the democrats trying to move up our primary and reduce michigan's electoral votes to nine to make
00:02:18.340 michigan insignificant we got to fight against that is your contention and and the folks the
00:02:26.340 grassroots folks out there we must win michigan in 2024 to deliver the presidency again is this is
00:02:31.740 like we did in 16 is is michigan absolutely in the central state sir absolutely we got to bring
00:02:37.540 a bit michigan back to the republican side uh and we're going to do that we have an entire plan on
00:02:43.160 how to raise money again outside the establishment uh clutches uh and that that involves the delegate
00:02:50.500 program we're going to motivate activate and inspire these delegates across the state to get out and get
00:02:56.140 to work um fighting democrats and fighting their corrupt elections
00:03:00.500 matt how do people follow this today and how do people follow and find out more about your crusade
00:03:07.380 out there in michigan yeah they can follow us on twitter at di perno for the number four m i or on
00:03:16.380 twitter at m di perno and truth social at m di perno matt di perno godspeed sir and tell everybody out
00:03:24.840 there uh we love them we got their back all right appreciate it thank you steve have a good day
00:03:29.800 thank you thank you sir the perno has been in this fight since the early hours of uh what was it
00:03:36.740 the fourth of november in the year of our lord 2020 uh is lehi i mean is um lindell up mike lindell
00:03:43.420 is out our on-scene commander is the mike lindell mike what the heck are you doing out in michigan
00:03:49.260 today sir well i uh i've been to five states in three days but uh i had to get here to support
00:03:55.640 matt michigan and uh we did uh uh i think last night we were going room to room like seven speeches
00:04:02.700 in in an hour i mean it was uh pretty uh pretty amazing but everybody uh everybody's hopeful here
00:04:09.320 i i really get you know after this midterm election i had more um i call it just depressed they were so
00:04:16.600 depressed sad looking for hope calls from michigan more than any other state and now i get here and i see
00:04:22.400 such hope it inspires me steve even being here and um you know i opened my uh i opened up my uh
00:04:30.520 speech yesterday with you know we um that's been fighting this from the beginning with me you know
00:04:35.900 way back when we did absolute proof but i told him about two states now that it looks like they're
00:04:41.460 going to be completely machine free by this summer and the crowd went crazy and i told him i said they
00:04:48.000 talked about the republican party being broken i said we had to break down before we're before we're
00:04:53.300 coming to the bottom up here and uniting and i told him i i was promised by ronna mcdaniel that she
00:04:58.300 would work with mike vendell and work with us work work work work work with all of us and um i will tell
00:05:04.420 you this i told about one of these states has a big blocker in it it's a republican i'm going on my show
00:05:10.100 on monday and i said and i'm giving him till monday to change his mind that's it we're not going to let
00:05:15.500 we're not going to be blocked anymore to get our country back to get michigan back to get
00:05:20.600 and to get our freedoms back and uh we don't we don't have time we're running out of time here
00:05:25.700 by the way steve everyone here i think everyone here is in the war room posse they all they come up
00:05:31.620 you know i watch you every day every day i'm going i go well i'm not out there every day you're watching
00:05:36.160 steve every day but they just love your show and they uh they're they're just uh they're fighters out
00:05:43.400 here in michigan and uh i talked i probably this is this i probably talked to a thousand people and
00:05:50.200 uh campaigning for matt and um yeah and even the ones that aren't voting for him were going
00:05:56.340 yeah they asked me a lot of questions why and i said well i said matt's been in the fight since the
00:06:01.880 beginning and even when i thought i was alone back then here comes this lawyer from michigan
00:06:07.340 fighting like uh uh the president i was with our real president donald trump two days ago and he said
00:06:13.040 you know matt's like one of those mafia lawyer fighters he just fights the mafia they knock him
00:06:18.240 down he sits back up and so it's a lot of fun i love getting right in with the people um
00:06:24.840 and uh by the way today is a very important day to me uh six years ago today i got a full surrender
00:06:32.540 to jason price that was february 18th uh 2017 everybody and uh just to celebrate that i'm going on
00:06:40.840 i'm going on jimmy swagger tomorrow night uh to do my testimonial to the world and uh
00:06:46.920 i've been talking so many people here have my book and stuff they're coming up and say you know i read
00:06:52.140 your book i was saved i surrendered to jesus i said that combines everybody we're in the biggest revival
00:06:57.900 for jesus christ in history i see it all around even at this convention convention is everybody's just
00:07:04.820 talking you know that it's god bless it's not you know we've got to put god back in our schools i hear
00:07:09.520 hope i hear a lot of these places in michigan where they won their their districts or whatever
00:07:14.860 and they putting they're putting god back into the schools and uh so there's a lot there's hope
00:07:19.600 everywhere and that hope is jesus how is this revival in your mind you've gone around how how do you
00:07:26.400 believe this revival is informing this movement this grassroots movement by the way we love the folks
00:07:31.620 in michigan and the reason they watch it they're part of the fight club right these guys are fighters
00:07:35.420 they're not they're not uh the the unity deal is we're going to unite after we win okay we're not
00:07:42.080 going to tolerate what they're trying to do this country to destroy it uh and that's why people want
00:07:46.780 to fight right now hey they're they're and and that's where they show up that the fight is a political
00:07:51.120 fight right and it's at the grassroots and and and mike you know people you know some of the some of
00:07:56.680 the establishment swells have been telling me oh you know with the perno and lindell and dan schultz and all
00:08:01.240 the you know all the hobbits you've got taking these seats you you have the the phrase they use
00:08:06.520 mike is the inmates are now going to run the asylum how would you respond to that sir
00:08:11.640 well i'll tell you here's kind of like what i said yesterday to all the people here
00:08:17.340 um we're coming through we're uh we're coming through if you don't like what we're doing get out
00:08:23.940 of our way because we're going to take our country back we are winning this is uh it all had to get
00:08:31.040 bad this was all in god's timing but the time is now and uh and people are pouring over into this
00:08:37.960 common sense bucket call it the the new republican party the common sense bucket and uh and that's
00:08:44.700 where we're at and we're not i'm telling i'm just uh i'm saying this is a warning to all you
00:08:49.900 republicans i just you know they just voted me uh with the rnc chair a lot of things came out of there
00:08:56.300 and i'll tell you what i met with those 168 and you know what if we come when we come to your state
00:09:02.880 and the precinct people we all come there and we're doing what we have to do to straighten out
00:09:08.180 our elections you better get out of our way if you're not going to be on board because uh we're
00:09:13.460 gonna we're gonna put we're gonna put you we're gonna put it out there we're gonna find out where
00:09:17.220 more and more rhinos are more and more bad people so you better hunker down now if you don't want to
00:09:22.640 if you don't want to join us because uh we're gonna call you out every single one of them i'm
00:09:27.580 sick of it steve we're coming through we're gonna get our country back and these people the people on
00:09:32.640 the ground this is a uniting by the way of the people it's just that you've got the party they
00:09:39.040 said they call this divide in the party this is the establishment and they and they they better wake
00:09:44.080 up because uh and we've been educated now over the last two years it's been quite a process
00:09:48.760 now we're going to see the manifestation of two years of hard work
00:09:53.080 talk i know you can't announce it but the two states when will be when will you be able to
00:10:00.100 announce the two states that are pretty far along about getting rid of the machines overall and going
00:10:05.040 to paper ballots in a hand count hand counted paper ballot sir i'm gonna announce it this week
00:10:12.380 i'll try and come on the war room um and uh the reason i'm waiting this week is i'm giving two
00:10:18.100 blockers four days to make up their mind they're either going to be with us or against us because
00:10:23.760 when we announce this we're not gonna it's a it's a big group of counties in this state and uh uh in
00:10:30.660 both states and we're not going to tolerate any any kind of a block so if they're on board um we're
00:10:38.520 going to announce this week and if we're going to announce this week regardless so um their names
00:10:43.180 won't come up because uh this these two states are going to be the spirit and by the way one of
00:10:49.220 them has an election this spring can you imagine steve one state with no computers a perfect prototype
00:10:56.400 for the world to our country the world to everyone this system is better than france germany the uk
00:11:03.940 and the netherlands i've looked at all the systems this new system it's the best i spent four hours
00:11:10.660 yesterday going through a demonstration of this hand counted paper ballot and full it's you any
00:11:17.420 question you would ask as a namesayer they're going okay what about this what about this
00:11:21.640 check this out check this out so it's just like i compared to when i invented the pillow steve when
00:11:28.260 they said can you wash and dry it can you do this can you do this yes you can yes you can by the way
00:11:33.860 and also everybody the my pillow 2.0 it's absolutely been going great you can you guys have we announced
00:11:40.580 it on war room use that promo code war room and and uh it is taking the world by storm here that
00:11:46.420 everyone's getting the my pillow 2.0 here's my ad mike i got a couple we just have a few minutes left
00:11:54.380 there's this we started in uh in uh uh ashbury ashbury uh university in kentucky this revival
00:12:01.660 just we got about two minutes talk to people about how your life changed six years ago today
00:12:06.180 when you actually were already a christian but you actually turned your life over to jesus christ walk
00:12:10.620 us through the changes in your life because everybody tells me the first thing they tell about
00:12:14.300 you're fearless go ahead well you know i always wanted to be i i was god was always chasing me and
00:12:21.520 you always see i wore my cross for years even even when i was on crack i would bear it i wanted to be
00:12:27.040 that person i wanted to be you know what i've seen other people have this personal relationship with
00:12:32.600 jesus and and uh when i on february 18th of 2017 i went into it was actually a veterans retreat i'm not
00:12:40.180 a veteran but it was a it was a blessing i got to go there and i went in there with hope and i came out
00:12:45.460 when i did that full surrender i was able to forgive myself like jesus forgave me for all my sins
00:12:51.240 but i had to forgive myself for something way back in my past and what i thought was going to be um
00:12:57.340 i didn't know what to expect but it was like it was i was set free i was able to uh finally talk i
00:13:03.680 had a fear of speaking to people believe it or not i i did i couldn't and here two months later i did a
00:13:09.140 a 60 000 people at u.s bank stadium let them in prayer and i just got filled with the holy spirit and
00:13:15.860 it's just so easy people say mike keep up the fight i only have one fear and that's fear of the
00:13:21.080 lord everything else it just becomes so easy everybody so i encourage everybody uh you know
00:13:27.420 just stay in the word and one of the things steve do is i would always be reactionary prayer god please
00:13:33.120 let this happen if you do this i'll do this and and now i can be proactive in prayer because where it
00:13:39.640 might the reaction might not have been god's will things i prayed for might not have been god's will
00:13:44.400 well where is god's will god's will is in the word so if you stay in the word your prayers will line
00:13:50.380 up everybody with uh with god's word and uh and uh and with his will so um you know ask jesus into
00:13:58.420 your heart ask him to be your personal savior and and get that relationship and you'll be you'll be
00:14:04.100 amazed it's the best thing ever and you and you know what our fight is here but the big reward like
00:14:09.680 when i got off drugs and everything the big reward is uh being able to live in heaven for eternity
00:14:15.100 mike how do people follow you today where you're in michigan um you can call it you guys go to frank's
00:14:23.260 speech um go to frank's speech but otherwise uh otherwise you can find me on getter and you can find me
00:14:28.740 on true social um we're gonna i'm gonna be posting stuff as i as we get through the day here and uh
00:14:34.960 and uh i got a lot of a lot of news coming this week steve i'd love to come back on your show we got
00:14:40.680 lots of things you have an open invitation always tell everybody out there we got their back
00:14:46.740 they're fighting a day in michigan another front thank you mike appreciate it short commercial
00:14:53.080 thank you brother good anniversary back in a moment
00:14:57.520 okay um welcome back it's a lot to get to in the remaining uh 45 was it 45 minutes we have let me
00:15:13.080 just make sure i'm on track yep okay we got a lot to get there we're gonna get to it all one of the
00:15:17.540 giants in our movement that always fought uh for the little guy and was one of the the fathers of
00:15:23.320 thinking through economic nationalism bringing manufacturing back it was peter navarro and
00:15:27.840 a guy named curtis ellis who i got very close to he used to come on breitbart radio back in the old
00:15:34.060 day old days when i hosted that and i got to know him he was a key part of the 16 campaign and then
00:15:38.440 afterwards uh he would been at east palestine was the kind of thing that he lived for to fight and
00:15:45.340 stand up for the american worker uh particularly against these corporations i'm not anti-corporate what i am
00:15:51.320 anti-corporatist i'm anti um you know because my dad worked for the phone company his entire life
00:15:57.400 right and the phone company was right in back of the catholic church right of uh of um institutions
00:16:04.100 that you believed in and did the right thing and i saw so many times as a young kid uh that they would
00:16:09.300 put the community first right over over their own profitability or or um you know uh getting the ceo
00:16:17.220 more money that was a different day in time but we can get back to that one of the guys that believed
00:16:22.280 in that and was also one of the first people really to single out the chinese communist party as the
00:16:27.020 central threat to working people throughout the world the lao baijing in china the working people
00:16:32.360 in the united states but throughout the world as they exported um really deflation everywhere in in
00:16:38.080 crushing uh people's wages because they lived off the slave labor of the chinese people
00:16:42.140 maxine uh albert is with us uh posthumously curtis passed away a couple years ago but we possibly
00:16:48.680 would come up with a fantastic book and i was very honored to write the foreword for it maxine
00:16:53.420 talk to us about curtis but particularly with east palestine uh really centerpiece of the news
00:16:59.200 this was something that he lived for i mean he he'd have been out there from the first day
00:17:03.480 holding people accountable accountable would he not ma'am
00:17:06.260 oh um absolutely and you know thanks for having me on the show it's important for me to get
00:17:13.120 curtis's message out because he saw china as the number one enemy you know and anything against you
00:17:20.680 know the common man he was such a passionate crusader for the working man and uh you know he started
00:17:26.300 writing this book before his illness and he was determined to finish it and he never stopped writing
00:17:32.640 he never gave up you know this is his uh this is his wake-up call to america to the country he loved
00:17:38.420 and his lifelong mission and and you know curtis was that he was a true patriot and he was an impassioned
00:17:44.600 crusader for the working man and to bring jobs back to this country from china and he was one of he was
00:17:51.040 one of the first people who saw economic warfare the china's economic warfare as part of their plan
00:17:58.520 to destroy america so and and and and this book uh which thank you for you know you wrote the uh
00:18:05.880 the preface pandemonium china's global strategy to cripple america i mean it couldn't be more timely
00:18:13.140 you know here you have a guy who looks up in the sky uh in montana he sees a balloon a chinese spy
00:18:20.480 balloon that's been hovering over our missile uh site our sensitive missile sites and all all of a sudden
00:18:26.060 the country wakes up where you know you and curtis have been calling out the ccp for decades
00:18:31.540 do you think that's kind of a do you do maxine do you believe that's a uh sputnik moment do you
00:18:39.820 think that's a moment that now just the average person who doesn't follow the news every day all
00:18:44.180 of a sudden they become alert that something's deeply wrong when there's a spy balloon or a spy
00:18:49.380 airship as i call it that traverses the entire united states and nobody does anything about the
00:18:53.660 government refuses to take it down do you think that's a sputnik moment that all of a sudden the
00:18:58.120 message of curtis ellis and what he dedicated his life to about bringing jobs back here and breaking
00:19:03.880 the ccp that this can this can become the moment where the movement can actually become bigger
00:19:09.340 well you know the first wake up call uh which curtis talks about in the book was with the pandemic
00:19:16.060 when we saw that we that china controlled all the medical supplies we couldn't get everything and
00:19:21.340 yes steve i do think that because i'm what i'm hearing now is from people who never
00:19:25.900 said anything before oh look there's a chinese spy balloon why is it here over our country and
00:19:32.600 why is it over our missile sites and what's happening so i do think it's it's a wake-up call
00:19:38.340 you know something that you and curtis have been talking about for years and uh what what do you think
00:19:43.480 it's going to take for uh americans to see that uh made in america now is not only about jobs but
00:19:50.280 it's a national security issue you know that we're paying for our own destruction
00:19:54.380 maxi how do people uh get to the book how do they get there they can buy the book on amazon they can
00:20:02.740 buy it on barnes and noble i mean curtis talked about if if we don't wake up and do something and
00:20:10.120 decouple from china uh you know a crisis is inevitable what do you think is going to happen if we continue
00:20:17.500 our collaboration with china and not recognize the ccp as our enemy
00:20:21.640 oh it's destruction we have to and curtis and the great thing is curtis had remedies that did not
00:20:30.000 lead to kinetic war right it economic warfare information warfare political warfare you can do
00:20:35.920 that and take down the ccp in conjunction with lao baxing that's who's really going to take them down
00:20:40.520 and curtis curtis was the tip of the spear saying we've got to turn things around here maxine thank you
00:20:45.660 so much uh once again how do we get to the book um you can buy it on amazon uh and barnes and nobles and
00:20:53.900 um curtis believed that you can change that we can change the world with you know with a change when
00:20:59.420 we decouple from china and that each person when you know like one person at a one person at a time
00:21:06.220 has to stand up and we can do this
00:21:08.280 perfect um do you have a do you have a social media can people follow you
00:21:14.320 um they can they can follow curtis you know at um you know it's at curtis ellis i just want to
00:21:23.080 read you one thing um representative jim banks on the house select committee on china this week said
00:21:29.060 we have to treat the ccp as the enemy the biggest threat to america and the american way of life
00:21:34.180 we're looking for strategies to decouple our economy from china and hold china accountable
00:21:39.780 well look no further representative banks it's all in the book you know everything that curtis said
00:21:46.080 is right in people in this book people are saying right now everyone is saying right now and
00:21:51.760 you know there's a chapter in it hold china accountable uh defund china so how do we hold
00:21:59.760 congress accountable is the question and are they going to do this well they got to that's what
00:22:06.720 we got to maxine albert thank you very much curtis ellis a legend one of the giants in our movement
00:22:12.260 this book is incredible uh and it comes up with practical solutions so maxine thanks thank you for
00:22:17.140 joining us here in the war room thank you curtis ellis always fought for the working men and women in
00:22:25.520 this country always fought for him understood the existential threat was the uh was uh what was the
00:22:32.780 chinese communist party backed and in business with our elites do we have before bringing ben
00:22:37.720 harnwell do we have the kamala harris okay let me tell you about what's happening here in in ukraine
00:22:43.920 and of course over at the orgy in munich and that is the arms merchants all get together once a year
00:22:49.480 for the munich uh security conference so yesterday this yesterday's financial times of london
00:22:54.480 has got this thing over here milley expects negotiated end to the deal and then the whole
00:22:59.740 article is about how milley says the ukrainians can't win can't win on the battlefield and when i
00:23:05.260 say win you got to remember for the ukrainians here's what the here's what the situation is the the
00:23:11.180 the um um the um they have three things number one they want to remove russia from from all their
00:23:19.720 territory right from all their territory that means eastern ukraine and the crimea number one
00:23:24.400 number two they want full reparations and we know right now it's i don't know going to take a
00:23:29.220 trillion dollars to to re to rebuild ukraine so they want total reparations and then three
00:23:33.780 they want uh the russians charged with war crimes and so kamala harris today speaking for your nation
00:23:40.360 and remember when we defeated the germans the nazis and we defeated the imperial uh you know uh
00:23:47.400 military staff in japan the empire of japan we had trials afterwards we went and got evidence
00:23:53.500 afterwards and never started talking about war crimes until after they're beaten the reason is
00:23:59.000 if you tell guys they're going to be you know on war for up for war crimes trials i think they kind
00:24:04.480 of fight to the end because they sit there and go well what's my upside if we have some sort of
00:24:09.220 negotiation they're going to try to they're going to try to if i stop fighting they're going to try
00:24:12.780 to accuse me of war crimes so can we play kamala harris do we have that let's play kamala harris
00:24:16.480 in munich today speaking for you the american people i'm grateful to everyone who gives
00:24:23.520 the sling to ukrainian david thanks to which thanks to which russian goliath
00:24:30.180 has already started to lose his ground thank you very much thank you
00:24:35.760 thank you very much and there is no doubt these are crimes against humanity
00:24:51.140 the united states has formally determined that russia has committed crimes against humanity
00:25:11.940 and i say to all those who have perpetrated these crimes and to their superiors who are complicit
00:25:25.660 in these crimes you will be held to account
00:25:33.140 in the face of these indisputable facts to all of us here in munich
00:25:45.420 let us renew our commitment to accountability
00:25:52.460 let us renew our commitment to the rule of law
00:26:00.460 okay remember i don't think we said the nazis were going to try them for war crimes before we won
00:26:08.500 i don't think we did it to the japan remember they had a trial in uh in uh tokyo um in a you know we
00:26:15.620 we we hung a bunch of the the japanese imperial staff not enough but you know some the nuremberg trials
00:26:24.360 also guys who didn't kill themselves some were executed probably not enough
00:26:30.080 um but that was all after the fact
00:26:32.860 here kamala
00:26:35.060 just stood right up and said uh hey we have irrefutable proof
00:26:39.880 the united states
00:26:41.460 that these uh folks are war criminals
00:26:44.580 gonna be quite tough to get to a negotiate i think millie ought to phone
00:26:50.200 into kamala maybe get on the same page
00:26:52.460 you would think the vice president the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff just throwing it out
00:26:56.640 and there is no doubt
00:27:07.160 these are crimes against humanity
00:27:12.520 the united states has formally determined
00:27:26.200 that russia has committed crimes against humanity
00:27:33.300 and i say
00:27:36.240 to all those who have perpetrated these crimes
00:27:40.500 and
00:27:42.360 to their
00:27:43.400 superiors
00:27:44.860 who are complicit
00:27:47.040 in these crimes
00:27:49.080 you will be held
00:27:51.820 to account
00:27:54.580 in the face
00:27:59.020 so uh right there the vice president kamala harris is saying the united states formally is determined
00:28:04.960 i'd like to see you know i'd like to see here's like to see the timeline about the um
00:28:10.800 the chinese spy balloon and why uh admiral kirby said we almost you know dang near got
00:28:17.140 tony blinken off i'd like to know the cover-up on that the timeline the discussions when you really
00:28:22.380 knew it when i left henan as cbs news reports i'd like to know that
00:28:26.040 okay
00:28:27.120 uh i'd like to know everything about east palestine ohio that you know why the epa director
00:28:34.060 made the decision what was the math uh i don't believe i think you're lying about the the shards
00:28:40.120 right i got to see the math on that i'm not buying that for the control release
00:28:43.640 i'd also like to know about the control burn
00:28:45.820 i don't believe i i don't know until see the math so can you just put those for those are the
00:28:50.480 decisions already put that forward if you formally determined hey okay maybe can we see that before
00:28:58.760 and how do you formally determine and there's some process i mean wasn't this at the end of end of
00:29:04.560 world war ii i keep saying world war ii was not the good war that's the way it's kind of position for
00:29:09.540 the great generation and their and their courage and valor and heroism is unparalleled in american
00:29:16.280 history but world war ii ended up like many was to be a war of annihilation war of annihilation
00:29:24.280 right on both sides war of annihilation because these things tend to head in that direction
00:29:31.400 as they get more brutal and more and and and people's you know backs get up and they see the
00:29:37.160 agony they see loved ones dead and they see destruction and mass destruction they want to get
00:29:40.940 revenge right this is the way we got to do it we have to we have to annihilate it was after the war
00:29:47.080 it was after the war when people went out and saw what happened in in germany and saw what happened in
00:29:53.600 also the bloodlands right outside of germany uh and saw what happened uh with the imperial general
00:30:00.220 staff in mainland china what they had done in china in manchuria and also in other the islands
00:30:05.420 right that they were prosecuted and people were held accountable and many died and quite frankly
00:30:13.020 having read all the transcripts of the trials i don't think enough of them died i think more of
00:30:19.100 them should have been put to death okay but here we formally determined and we're in the middle of
00:30:25.060 it so so harnwell here's what you're you're in media we got other stuff to go to we're gonna have
00:30:28.580 to get it on to monday but i got milly given a long interview expects negotiated deal negotiated end
00:30:35.540 which is the same deal i got the chairman of the joint chiefs it's the same deal brother that the
00:30:42.720 israeli prime minister at the time bennett had on the table when this thing started a year ago
00:30:47.860 roughly 300 000 casualties ago and a trillion dollars worth of the destruction of ukraine 300 000 casualties
00:30:58.200 roughly 100 000 ukrainian troops 200 000 actually more 100 000 ukrainian couple hundred thousand
00:31:04.360 russians people are saying various you know analysis and 40 50 000 ukrainian civilians so 300 350 000 who
00:31:12.880 knows for hard to count but a lot a lot of agony he's saying that in in in zelensky is still sitting
00:31:20.280 there going here's our condition here's what we we and you must fund this unlimited and you must fund this
00:31:27.240 we must remove all russians from a soil of ukraine that's the eastern provinces and crimea number one
00:31:33.540 number two they must pay reparations to rebuild the entire country as is or better and number three
00:31:39.260 we they have to be charged with war crimes so harnwell tell me is is europe going to have is europe
00:31:45.320 got a belly for that fight i'd like to know because europe it's a european fight on the eurasian landmass
00:31:51.640 the eu's been driving this nato's been driving this and let's face it nato's a protectorate of
00:31:56.100 the united states of america's not an ally let me say something else and don't this should not be
00:32:01.440 misconstrued but outside the english who were fighting for liberty and freedom and also for
00:32:06.640 their empire and by the way the english working people because the royal family wanted to cut a
00:32:11.280 deal with hitler right they want to cut a deal with hitler to save the empire but the english working
00:32:16.480 the midlands that supported uh supported uh churchill that's why churchill came to power
00:32:21.120 they didn't want churchill they wanted lord halifax they didn't want churchill's last thing they
00:32:25.260 thought he was a warmonger and he his thing was hey we're going to take the nazis and we're going
00:32:28.640 to destroy him that was working class people in the midlands had his back and some of those were
00:32:34.160 actually you know very pro-soviet because some of the some element of that were communist
00:32:39.520 and socialist and they had they had churchill's back to to conduct the war you know de gaulle had
00:32:46.080 what a couple of divisions right it was more symbolic than anything else president de gaulle of
00:32:50.400 france and you had the french resistance that was incredibly brave you read the history of the french
00:32:55.720 resistance incredible what they did in the heroism they did and the sacrifice they had but outside of
00:33:01.700 that the french army collapsed in what six weeks because of all the casualties in world war one the rest
00:33:06.340 of europe you know no offense but nato as far as fighting the nazis in world war ii
00:33:12.960 they didn't really do a lot of fighting did a lot of surrendering okay america with the brits
00:33:20.400 did a lot of fighting in western europe and yes the french and some others it's the russian people
00:33:26.060 that took the blunt of the wehrmacht and the chinese people that took the brunt of the imperial
00:33:31.960 japanese army lao beijing and the russian serfs and peasants essentially took the brunt of it
00:33:38.380 those were our allies and the fact that we lost uh you know under a million men the fact that we lost
00:33:45.380 under a million men in in the island campaign in the pacific war the submarine war the eighth air
00:33:50.800 for air corps over germany the precision daylight bombing we would have lost five times that many
00:33:57.180 if it had not been for the casualties taken by the chinese people and the russian people
00:34:01.900 just remember that those were our allies europe was a kind of became a protectorate and they quite
00:34:09.520 frankly drafted off it for for for the whole cold war right now the british the the the head of the
00:34:16.040 tories um equivalent of the armed services committee said the other day to the financial times the entire
00:34:23.140 british military could fight for five days in a war to be finished that's him not me five days
00:34:27.760 but they did fast up the fact they got they could put one combat division up one combat division one
00:34:33.900 rest of europe i don't know a couple three i don't know it's not an alliance it's just not it's a
00:34:41.620 protectorate donald trump knew this they got to step up to the plate so harnwell i'm confused now
00:34:46.920 is if the russians have done these war crimes i guess you fight to the bitter end and i guess the
00:34:52.720 bitter end is that you got to get to the russian army's got to collapse and moscow's got to got
00:34:57.880 moscow's got to fall am i am i confused because now we formally have determined and that's not the
00:35:04.620 war room saying that that's not gateway pundit or breitbart or or or um you know revolver.news that's
00:35:11.860 that's kamala harris the vice president united states the second in line here to be commander chief
00:35:16.600 she's there at the munich arms uh orgy saying that we formally we formally determined we formally
00:35:24.660 determined ben harnwell gonna make this peace talk kind of millie better millie ought to read her
00:35:30.780 speech because i think it makes it quite tough how do you get to a negotiated end with war criminals sir
00:35:35.860 well um i suppose we did it and it depends what what the uh what the negotiation is and what the
00:35:43.180 conditions will be i think general millie here is a bit like a broken clock uh and that he's going to
00:35:48.960 be right inevitably twice uh at some point during the day obviously general billie isn't right twice
00:35:55.120 a day but but you get the point um it will end i mean it's either going to end in a nuclear armageddon
00:36:01.440 or it will end with a negotiated peace of one degree or another who's going to give up most will
00:36:07.280 depend on what condition um the the the loser will be by that time that comes around but as for
00:36:15.460 kamala harris i i you know formally determined isn't a legal term um and i wouldn't pay much
00:36:22.600 attention to what what she's saying she's clearly just it's not even grandstanding um she's auditioning
00:36:27.900 well i tell you who's paying attention to oh whoa whoa whoa hang on hang on hang on hang on whoa
00:36:31.840 stop i tell you he's paying attention to it if you're in moscow i'd pay attention to it
00:36:36.480 if i'm one of the russians down on the battlefield i pay attention to it and i'm not i'm not saying
00:36:40.700 they have not committed war crimes i'm not saying i'm not saying that at all but if you're sitting
00:36:45.120 there and listening that the united states has formally determined that you've committed war
00:36:49.700 crimes and we're going to hold you accountable why is that it's meaningless it's meaningless because
00:36:54.880 the the the court with jurisdiction on war crimes is the international criminal court neither the united
00:37:01.380 states nor russia are members of the are signatories to this court so the court doesn't have jurisdiction
00:37:07.320 over doesn't china by the way just to insert that is also not a member um so what she's doing i mean
00:37:14.100 it's just it's not even virtue signaling attitude it's theater it's pantomime i would suggest she is
00:37:21.280 simply auditioning she might as well just send off her cv she's auditioning for 2024 because she thinks
00:37:26.660 this is what a world leader looks like because you know if she were serious let's see the united
00:37:32.940 states and russia and china and for that matter ukraine right let's see them all join the international
00:37:39.480 criminal court put themselves under the the court's authorities and then start digging going through
00:37:44.900 the archives because surely if russia is guilty of war crimes then president zelensky is as well because
00:37:52.280 he spent uh seven years bombing um the the ethnic russians in the donbass
00:37:58.400 oh we don't want to mention that hey ben hang on i got you and joe allen hang on i want to bring on
00:38:05.620 somebody very special because i want to get this word out i want to have a great turnout kathy connor
00:38:10.180 from the gop in oklahoma kathy we're going to do a very special event next week uh can you tell people
00:38:16.880 what's the event what's going to happen and where they still there's still tickets available where they go
00:38:21.440 yes steve we are having a very special event and the most fabulous part of that is that we have a
00:38:28.260 fabulous firebrand grassroots speaker coming to oklahoma uh our event is the lincoln reagan gala
00:38:38.000 dinner it's on february 25th next saturday at six o'clock it's at what we call the cowboy hall of fame
00:38:46.120 uh now the national cowboy and western heritage museum it's a fabulous uh venue keep in a lot of
00:38:53.720 oklahoma values so the uh venue itself is worth coming for uh but you know our goal this year is
00:39:02.840 to uh fund precincts and uh the very person that got me involved in precincts was you about three years
00:39:11.360 ago so we are very excited this is that we're really pumped up how do people we've got the
00:39:19.580 website up and we're going to push it out uh all day today and through the week and obviously the
00:39:23.260 week where do people go to get tickets if they're in the greater oklahoma area it's in oklahoma city
00:39:28.000 where do they actually go uh to get tickets and find out more about it kathy
00:39:31.960 okay the tickets are online www dot ok go i'm sorry ok c o p l p oklahoma county gop so that is
00:39:45.960 www ok c o g l p dot com you can sponsor a table you get a ticket perfect and 6 p.m next saturday night
00:39:59.620 correct correct correct well i guarantee folks i will i will bring the i will bring the heat let's
00:40:07.600 say that it'll be well worth attending i look forward to meeting everybody there as we normally do kathy
00:40:12.120 thank you so much we're gonna be back on monday uh i know you're at an event right now but thank
00:40:16.840 you for pulling yourself away to do this and we'll push this hard thanks steve we're real excited
00:40:22.260 same here thank you very much kathy connor from the gop in oklahoma i'm giving a speech a reagan
00:40:31.300 lincoln or lincoln reagan dinner speech love giving speeches about the about all that okay
00:40:37.620 short commercial break we got a lot to get through but we're going to get through it all
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00:41:54.040 oklahoma city at the cowboy museum with the cowboy hall of fame that amazing museum we're going to have
00:42:00.180 a um there's going to be an event i'm the keynote speaker for the lincoln reagan dinner you if you're
00:42:06.020 in the general area you're going to want to be there and we'll get to meet and hang out with
00:42:09.200 everybody i don't know before after we'll figure it out okay um ben harnwell uh ukraine because this
00:42:15.860 vote in ukraine is going to be huge in the united states to cut them off to cut this thing off of the
00:42:19.320 money and let europe if europe wants to do it they can do it but this thing's going it's going to take
00:42:23.800 hundreds of billions of trains of dollars just to continue to fight this war you're going to lose
00:42:28.560 millions of people if it continues down this path because both sides are dug in now they just want
00:42:33.340 to pound it out uh ben your your closing thoughts how can people get to you over the weekend we're
00:42:38.300 going to have you back monday but give us your perspective from rome yeah um i see a chasm opening
00:42:44.680 up steve between our political leadership and the taxpaying tax taxpaying base across the west
00:42:52.240 the the political leadership is doubling down that's literally the words that rishi sunak
00:42:56.800 use when he spoke in munich after kamala harris today he urged leaders to double down in their
00:43:03.560 commitment to ukraine so that's what they're doing and as you said they're digging in and doubling down
00:43:08.920 whereas peoples are moving further and further away from that because they're paying for it they're the
00:43:14.380 ones paying for it and they want um they want that negotiated peace but the negotiated peace won't
00:43:19.820 happen until effectively the united states tells zielinski to um that that that he's had enough um
00:43:27.280 resources and he needs to get himself to the negotiating table to discuss peace with putin
00:43:33.780 in which by the way bennett bennett the israeli prime minister the the israeli prime minister had
00:43:41.120 him at the table he said linds zielinski and putin would have taken a deal we fought for a year
00:43:47.480 destroyed the country and killed hundreds of thousands of people it's immoral now what we're
00:43:51.060 doing it's immoral because you're going to get to the same place you're going to get to the same
00:43:55.820 place and now this is just all the arms man that's where the munich who's underwriting that
00:43:59.780 things all the arms manufacturers uh ben how do people get to you over the weekend you're gonna be
00:44:04.080 back in the lineup on monday morning how do people get to you you're absolutely right steve that's why
00:44:08.760 our political leadership is comprised of sociopaths right these are people are sociopaths so
00:44:15.140 the way where you say it's immoral they won't care um folks if they want to catch up with my
00:44:20.100 thought and my updates it's on getter uh the best app uh the marketplace of ideas at on well at
00:44:27.680 on well uh which is my surname that's where i am the sociopathic overlords that's the best phrase
00:44:36.180 ever ben hornwell honored to have you on here brother head of uh our international editor actually
00:44:41.920 does the chinese too um let's go ahead and play the i get i get the joe allen let's play the cold
00:44:47.260 open and joe's going to come in however the most intelligent inhabitants of that future world won't
00:44:55.060 be men or monkeys they'll be machines the remote descendants of today's computers now the present
00:45:04.300 day electronic brains are complete morons but this will not be true in another generation
00:45:10.040 they will start to think and eventually they will completely outthink their makers
00:45:15.600 is this depressing i don't see why it should be we superseded the chromagnum and neanderthal men and
00:45:23.600 we presume we're an improvement i think we should regard it as a privilege to be stepping stones
00:45:29.400 to higher things i suspect that organic or biological evolution has about come to its end and we're now at
00:45:39.340 the beginning of inorganic or mechanical evolution which will be thousands of times swifter but even
00:45:46.180 if the future does belong to the robots our bodies and our brains still have immense untapped potentialities
00:45:53.380 for example to cope with the information explosion we may develop a machine for recording information
00:46:01.200 directly onto the brain as today we can record a symphony on tape
00:46:05.400 so we may one day be able to become instant experts learning chinese overnight for example
00:46:13.300 or we may be able to recall completely memories of past events so that we seem to relive them
00:46:21.300 in fact techniques are already known for doing this in a rather limited way at the present
00:46:26.240 alternatively we may prefer to totally erase past unpleasant memories
00:46:32.600 we only got a minute for you joe i want people to go to your writing all over the weekend what did
00:46:39.420 we just see arthur c clark steve that was a 1964 world's fair very i think prescient in some ways and
00:46:48.900 in other ways he made a tremendous impact with his science science fiction work and a lot of what we
00:46:55.480 now call transhumanism began in the imaginative worlds of science fiction especially men like
00:47:02.020 arthur c clark of course he was the creator of the famous hal 9000 in 2001 a space odyssey
00:47:08.800 i think that uh you know i'm going over a lot of his old novels now you can see how he shaped what we
00:47:15.260 now call technocracy and transhumanism child when you think about the ashbury ashbury university
00:47:21.460 revival go read childhood's end uh joe how do people get to you brother you can find me at
00:47:27.220 joebot.xyz you can find me at warroom.org under the transhumanism tab get her in twitter at joe
00:47:35.120 b-o-t-x-y-z thank you very much steve have a good weekend you know i just thought noah benjamin's
00:47:40.840 out there i think we're going to send uh i think we send joe allen joe allen grace chung that's our next
00:47:44.900 to out to out to ashbury to the revival okay we're going to end with the revival we're fighting
00:47:50.180 for something far deeper than just uh the stuff we deal with every day there's a spiritual war going
00:47:55.860 on and guess what we're on the winning side we're going to leave you with the ashbury revival we'll
00:48:01.780 be up on getter all weekend and we'll see you back here at 10 a.m monday morning in the war room
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