Bannon's War Room - February 25, 2023


Episode 2546： Pounding At The Door Of WW3

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In this episode of the Third World War podcast, we are talking about the early days, early years of the third world war and the fall of the Soviet Union, the loss of our defense industrial base, the disappearance of the rust belt, and the decline of our economic and political power.

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal stream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with the evil
00:00:10.820 on this people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the
00:00:17.140 people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
00:00:21.120 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
00:00:24.460 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
00:00:32.280 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
00:00:39.400 is to save my country this country will be saved here's your host stephen k van
00:00:47.800 welcome it's saturday 25 february in the year of our lord 2023 we're here we're talking about the
00:00:54.180 early days early years of the third world war we're in the second year now officially of the
00:01:00.500 war in ukraine frank gaffney has been talking with us frank you said the industrial base
00:01:05.600 has kind of gone away the industrial base to keep us a military power why has that happened and what
00:01:13.800 needs to be done because right now correct me if i'm wrong we're sending basically what virtually 100
00:01:19.620 percent of our ammunition bullets things like that uh to ukraine and we're already hearing that
00:01:27.620 you know we're six months behind in taiwan and they're more than six months behind in getting
00:01:32.420 the m1 a1 tanks walk us through this this issue of logistics and industrial base
00:01:37.980 well let's start with the industrial base steven uh with your very considerable help we've put together
00:01:45.480 a new book called the indictment and one of the strongest points of the book is that we have been
00:01:53.240 subjected to war crimes by the chinese communist party and just a perfect example of one of those 0.97
00:02:01.900 is the rust belt uh don't know that anybody else has quite connected this dot before but
00:02:09.240 that that didn't just happen that that factories that produced uh among other things the arsenal
00:02:16.660 for democracy over decades but also the the strength of our economy the the dominant position that we've
00:02:24.380 had uh as a manufacturing nation for many years that was taken out by the chinese communist party as
00:02:32.480 you know as part of their economic warfare strategy which was part of their larger unrestricted warfare
00:02:39.080 strategy and so whether you look at the defense industrial base as a sort of microcosm of that
00:02:45.880 problem or at the macro picture it's a story of how this country's greatest economic power was
00:02:56.260 sapped stolen from us in an act of economic warfare by the chinese communist party and on the defense 0.87
00:03:06.300 industrial side in particular they sort of convergence if you will of all of that with this sort of notion
00:03:16.220 of the end of history after you know the soviet union was taken down by ronald reagan that led to
00:03:25.820 a notion especially coupled with this idea that well as long as we make the chinese rich
00:03:31.740 they won't be a problem they'll be happy campers they'll be part of the international community
00:03:38.240 uh we'll maybe compete with them but it'll be an active trading relationship right no what they
00:03:45.240 determined to do was to um the pretext the so-called hide and bide strategy of uh dung shaoping the general
00:03:57.600 secretary of the chinese communist party at the time that the soviet union defeated he said that cold war
00:04:03.700 is over the soviets lost a new cold war has begun we will win china will win and they set about 0.96
00:04:10.660 concealing from us hide what their true intentions were and bide their time so that they could both
00:04:17.860 take down this country through unrestricted warfare and they could build up china among other things 1.00
00:04:25.840 in terms of its military power as well we mostly missed the memo we allowed our defense industrial
00:04:33.760 base as we've talked about steve to contract artificially and foolishly foolishly foolishly
00:04:42.240 excuse me and where we find ourselves today is it's not nearly up to the job of being
00:04:47.560 the arsenal for democracy that we need it to be um not least to defend ourselves
00:04:53.280 it's a war crime i mean they did this in conjunction with our financial and economic
00:05:00.160 elite and political class you know the um exactly was it graham allison came here to the to the war
00:05:06.640 room or to breitbart uh years ago uh when his book came out i think destined for war which is about the
00:05:14.260 thucydides trap which is you know you have to you know you have athens and sparta since the
00:05:19.760 television wars i think it's 14 times in world history this has happened you have a declining
00:05:24.480 power and a rising power and where they didn't reach some rapprochement or accommodation it always
00:05:30.120 led to some catastrophic catastrophic war um and and here in the decline when he was here for lunch i
00:05:36.620 said hey here's one of the problems with your theory you don't have any examples where the elite
00:05:40.920 and the declining parent made more money on the way down than they made on the way up
00:05:44.700 and uh and that's a situation we have today so we say the ccp is guilty of a war crime isn't that 0.89
00:05:51.960 war crime the perpetrators that actually american citizens that worked in conjunction with the ccp to 0.81
00:05:57.880 take all the industrial base uh to mainland china it's a critically important point steven and this
00:06:04.600 indictment is aimed at both the chinese communist party and at their enablers in our own country and
00:06:11.320 you're absolutely right one of the other war crimes i would suggest this indictment is the
00:06:16.920 very successful use of what the chinese call elite capture peter schweitzer's written a terrific book
00:06:23.180 called red-handed as you know on this subject naming names documenting the extent of it not just in
00:06:29.760 you know the business sector and you're absolutely right wall street has been arguably the worst of the
00:06:36.140 lot and we can talk more about what that's meant for the rest of this enterprise but academia the
00:06:42.760 media the culture and of course not least our political elite have all been captured um egregiously
00:06:52.180 the commander-in-chief of the united states is among those and has been working i believe assiduously
00:06:58.260 for our enemy as have many of these others and it's put us in mortal peril they persist in it that
00:07:05.880 wall street guys are to this day intent on putting still more and again i mention this every time
00:07:12.100 we're on air your money folks if there if you're in pension funds if you're in mutual funds or if you're
00:07:20.380 in index funds or exchange traded funds or other investment vehicles that wall street manages for you
00:07:26.160 you can bet that a portion of your funds are in china and if god forbid steve as we were talking
00:07:32.460 about earlier this second front old-fashioned shooting war with china you're going to lose
00:07:39.940 every dime of it and not a one of those captains of industry or masters of the universe or whatever
00:07:44.820 you want to call them on wall street are telling you the truth about that instead they're interested
00:07:49.440 in getting more fees by putting more of your money over there even now under these circumstances it is
00:07:55.020 not only reckless and and malfeasant i believe in terms of their fiduciary responsibility it's treasonous
00:08:03.100 let's go let's go to that if you want to avoid if we don't have the industrial base it would take us
00:08:08.700 too long to ramp up if we don't don't have the money to continue to pay you know uh almost a trillion
00:08:14.360 dollars in in defense spending you go back to the chinese they didn't have that any of that money 0.93
00:08:19.720 either they looked at the gulf war and said hey um if we have to fight foreign devils with the
00:08:26.920 technology they have we're never going to beat them because they're so far advanced as they saw the
00:08:31.700 combined arms and the intelligence and and the remote uh targeting we could do during the gulf war
00:08:39.280 and they came up and they wrote unrestricted warfare walk through unrestricted warfare of what
00:08:43.680 we should do today because we don't need for us to fight a kinetic war in the south china sea the
00:08:49.560 western pacific around the the east asian uh eurasian landmass as a second front of the third
00:08:56.800 world war right now would be suicidal um our our sociopathic oligarchs uh and overlords have us
00:09:04.840 really funneling every piece of ammunition every piece of logistics we have into the ukraine war
00:09:10.800 uh with with starving the other so we have to be creative what is unrestricted warfare how have the
00:09:17.220 chinese used against us and how can we immediately immediately flip the table on them economically 1.00
00:09:23.860 uh technologically uh cyber information warfare frank gaffney
00:09:29.000 well just a small corrective steve their insight into the necessity of using unrestricted that is to
00:09:37.940 say non-kinetic means to take us down predated that spectacular victory um in the gulf war by a decade
00:09:46.660 and some back in 1999 they were putting together this uh you know game plan excuse me i've got my
00:09:54.940 timing off you're right no no they was yeah yeah the gulf war was in the early 90s they were so blown
00:10:01.720 away by schwarzkopf's briefings and what happened in the remote targeting they came to the conclusion
00:10:06.720 we militarily will never almost have no chance of catching up to the foreign devils the foreign devils 1.00
00:10:14.480 are that good with combined arms i mean they were in shock this also shows you how adaptive they are
00:10:20.900 they looked at that and said well we can't just do that we we got to be we got to be smarter than that
00:10:25.660 you're right my math is wrong but your point is right this was a wake-up call for them and others
00:10:31.960 around the world by the way and i think what they decided to do was not to give up on the possibilities
00:10:38.280 of military might being used against us but just to patiently build that up over time but to start
00:10:45.500 immediately with these other techniques for taking us down and um you know you've you've asked the
00:10:52.760 right question um what did they envision and we we go through this in some detail drawing on the
00:10:59.780 unbelievable resource that we've created at the committee on the present danger china which you've
00:11:04.880 done so much to help inspire and and nurture steve some 70 different webinars we've now produced
00:11:13.320 about an hour hour and a half long in some cases that have walked through in exhaustive detail how
00:11:21.100 unrestricted warfare has been waged against us and with what effect and also by the way who's been
00:11:27.720 helping them do it and over time whether it's in this area of economic warfare whether it's the elite
00:11:34.700 capture that they've engaged in as kind of a part of their political warfare against us their
00:11:39.840 information operations their energy um warfare uh they're working to take down our military that's
00:11:48.460 another playbook item by the way with help from the democrats uh most especially in our congress
00:11:54.620 you've seen over time them adjusting the correlation of forces as the soviets used to say
00:12:03.260 and it's been through this succession of uh criminal acts against our country you often say and you're
00:12:10.720 absolutely right about this what we're dealing with is not a communist party as much as it is a
00:12:17.500 transnational criminal organization and in addition to the war crimes against us it's engaged in the most 0.59
00:12:24.680 horrific crimes against humanity in history and for all these things all these reasons it should be
00:12:31.660 prosecuted at a minimum in the court of public opinion if not through using actual military
00:12:38.380 techniques but to your question about so what can we do to flip the tables on them with unrestricted
00:12:43.780 warfare of our own i think the obvious place to start is by denying them the funding that they are using to
00:12:51.940 do so much of the malevolent things they engage in around the world including by the way helping the
00:12:57.200 russians in ukraine that's mostly our money and if wall street and and investors would simply stop
00:13:05.260 putting their money over there essentially found money discretionary spending money it would begin
00:13:12.560 to change the whole i think trajectory of what may be otherwise an unnecessary avoidable and disastrous
00:13:21.060 conflict of the old-fashioned kind with china frank hang on we're going to continue this uh
00:13:27.200 conversation in in just a minute we're going to take a short commercial break by the way frank is going
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00:13:57.400 meet and greets all of it we're looking forward to seeing everybody there frank gaffney will be there
00:14:01.280 uh and joining us uh live in studio as well other members of the committee on the present danger china
00:14:08.220 who will be around because this is obviously one of the central topics of this cpac okay it's going to
00:14:14.520 take place at national harbor march 1st through 4th just go to the we got the site up uh grace and
00:14:21.120 uh captain banner will be pushing it out short commercial break uh the founder of the committee
00:14:26.760 on the present danger frank gaffney is going to join us after a short commercial break
00:14:29.880 bring it on and have a fight to the end just watch and see it's all started everything's begun
00:14:41.920 and you are over because we're taking down the ccp spread the world all through hong kong 1.00
00:14:50.760 we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp 1.00
00:14:58.360 here's your host stephen k bann
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00:15:52.220 i'll get the great sleep that we need frank gaffney you know here's the thing the ccp is now playing a
00:15:57.800 major role in this ukraine situation as we said it would it's coming in kind of big footing uh biden
00:16:04.940 and everybody i want to go back this is their plan to control the eurasian landmass it started years
00:16:10.780 ago with one belt one road uh which they were going to use kind of predatory capitalism the the east
00:16:16.980 india company in reverse for elite capture and all that uh and they were building these connective
00:16:22.740 tissues to tie together markets and networks all the way deep into to europe through the you know
00:16:28.220 across the stands and pakistan uh iran all that now they're actually putting together a alliance
00:16:35.780 with the ayatollahs in iran who just you know the persians went and had a state visit to um to beijing
00:16:43.320 this week they've they've also been invited to tehran they're going to go she's going to go to
00:16:48.580 uh moscow he just left saudi arabia iraq has notified us that their current um their current
00:16:56.680 massive oil deal output deal with the chinese is not going to be paid for and converted into
00:17:01.560 dollars and paid for they're going to do it in uh in the chinese currency of yuan which is a game
00:17:07.440 changer um they're they're they're they're you know getting close to the turks uh they obviously
00:17:13.540 have this a partnership of you know what they call a bottomless partnership it's it's it's a core
00:17:19.540 partnership it's like the nazis and the soviets in uh 1939 this war now for the
00:17:26.600 eurasian landmass is this the axis that we're looking at and if that's the case and it's a
00:17:32.300 two-front war in ukraine or in that part of the eurasian landmass and then you know halfway across
00:17:38.880 the world in the south china sea in the straits of taiwan uh in the united states let's be let's be
00:17:44.540 blunt that we don't have allies we have vassals the um the uh you know two allies we have are small
00:17:52.840 that are real allies are israel and i guess still uae who punch above their weight uh in in india to
00:17:59.540 a degree uh you know we have japan we have kri but these are all you know don't punch above their
00:18:04.680 weight and we have europe which nato's a group of deadbeats so how do we confront this how do we
00:18:11.420 confront this economically how do we confront it politically how we fund it with information
00:18:16.500 warfare and most importantly if we have to how do we confront this kinetically
00:18:21.580 steve it has to start with clearing our decks to use an old naval term you're familiar with
00:18:29.120 of the people who are playing for the other team i don't know how to get around this but
00:18:34.900 you cannot conceivably contend with an adversary that has been working as hard as the chinese 1.00
00:18:42.140 communists have as we've discussed for decades with people in senior positions of leadership
00:18:50.420 whether it's in government and that means not just in the biden administration it means not just
00:18:57.080 the president by the way but his senior officials with the uh with portfolios that touch on china
00:19:05.040 basically throughout the government they are all well compromised i think is not an adequate
00:19:12.020 term for it they have all been making deals with the chinese that i think constitute betrayal 1.00
00:19:17.140 of our country you cannot have that or or in senior positions in business or the financial sector or
00:19:25.200 the media or elsewhere this has to stop so one of our recommendations in the indictment and we have 20
00:19:33.400 of them by the way is not only we have to investigate those who have these kinds of ties and we have to
00:19:40.700 ensure their removal whether it's through resignation or whether it's through impeachment or through
00:19:47.200 firing or whatever other means they must no longer exercise control or power in our country
00:19:54.820 moving on from that clearly we have to be thinking creatively about what do we do and let me come to the
00:20:04.880 military piece of this in a moment but i think it starts with as we talked about earlier
00:20:09.140 putting our country on a war footing clearly we cannot continue to rely upon the chinese for 1.00
00:20:17.600 critical materials critical minerals critical commodities critical chips and so on there's too
00:20:26.940 much of that medicine there is way too much of that as it stands right now we will not be able to turn
00:20:32.720 it off overnight but we have to immediately begin tapering it off uh diversifying our sources wherever we can
00:20:42.740 and with the utmost urgency on shoring as they say those critical supplies when we do that i believe that we
00:20:53.080 will find um we have begun combined with cutting off the funding to the chinese communist party which we spoke a
00:21:01.860 moment ago changing the dynamic that we currently face in addition i think we have to be using our
00:21:11.180 own supply chain leverage and we don't have a lot of it but one area is food they're trying to buy up our
00:21:19.900 agricultural land they're trying to buy up as much as they can of our food uh processing and production
00:21:26.000 facilities what's left of them many of them are burning up or having planes crash into them
00:21:31.320 unbelievably but what's left the chinese are trying to buy that has to be stopped and we ought to be 1.00
00:21:37.660 making clear that you're talking about going to war with us we obviously are not going to be in a position
00:21:43.620 to feed you in that circumstance we need to be moving i think as well um to come to the military
00:21:50.620 uh in a direction that a very impressive um air force general officer by the name of mike minahan
00:21:57.520 four star who commands the air mobility command um issued a memo to his subordinates a month or so
00:22:06.100 ago now bracing i thought very impressively so especially given the kind of environment he works
00:22:13.260 in in the biden military he said we're going to be at war with the chinese communist party by 2025
00:22:18.820 not because we want to but um they do and he thinks that's what's coming and he said to his troops we
00:22:24.960 need to begin training right now to use whatever capabilities we have to the fullest in order to
00:22:32.820 maximize deterrence it'd be nice to be able to bring a lot more kit to bear we probably can't do that for
00:22:39.400 the reasons we've been discussing but we can make more creative use of assets for example he mentioned to
00:22:45.680 his troops look at getting our kc-135 tanker fleet configured to launch a hundred drones or
00:22:56.960 unpiloted aerial vehicles as they're called from them creating swarms of offensively capable assets
00:23:06.380 using existing equipment like those uh those aircraft that's the sort of thing that we need to be doing
00:23:14.600 urgently i don't know there's much of that going on in addition i believe we need to be supplying what
00:23:20.360 we can as a matter of the utmost urgency to taiwan to increase the deterrent there to uh the chinese 1.00
00:23:28.820 aggression and that would mean i think putting american forces on the ground in numbers as well
00:23:33.480 i think there's a small element let me stay let me stay with that we're saying you talk i want to go
00:23:37.340 back to the indictment for a second about when you're you're calling these guys out but let me deal
00:23:41.420 with taiwan right now this is what's driving me mad you can't possibly do that given the capacity
00:23:47.940 we're at full capacity utilization they're working three shifts a day in these ammo plants and quite
00:23:53.760 frankly for the military industrial complex it's the best thing happen because the cash flow of this
00:23:58.300 is enormous because they already have the invested plant this is just running the production line
00:24:02.420 if you're at full capacity and essentially all that capacity is going to um going to ukraine and we know
00:24:11.300 that the let's take the m1 a1 tank production facility in lima ohio what i hear is not just a 31
00:24:19.160 uh m1 a1 tanks that that captain bannon for deployed over there into the baltics and the poland in the spring of
00:24:28.380 2014 when uh when the u.s government and victoria newland took the democratically elected although
00:24:35.480 putin aligned government down not that these guys were thinking long term not that they had a plan
00:24:41.000 long term that they wanted to do here but that the second tranche of those m1 a1 tanks have taken
00:24:48.320 uh precedent over the ones that taiwan has ordered and we've authorized so when you say we got to send
00:24:55.220 more arms uh more arms and and taiwan's begging for it when you've put everything you've got in all
00:25:02.360 your forward capacity into into ukraine how do you possibly do that it's not easy obviously uh we've
00:25:10.720 depleted i think our own resources we talked recently about the fact that we've gone into stocks that we
00:25:17.380 have of some of this equipment in south korea to send to ukraine and also in israel
00:25:24.800 and i think these are these are strategic missteps steve because um my guess is that the next phase
00:25:32.580 of this war the second front may well begin on the korean peninsula i think the north koreans are being
00:25:40.240 told by the chinese get ready you're you're going to be the leading edge and they're certainly behaving 1.00
00:25:45.420 that way but whether that's the case or not having forward deployed stocks in theater is going to be
00:25:52.280 critical israel may well go for it with iran any day now that that theater is going to light up it's
00:26:01.940 my guess because they sense that when even the international atomic energy agency generally late
00:26:10.180 to the party that the iranian threat is saying that they're now at an 85 percent enriched uranium
00:26:18.340 threshold which gets you pretty much into the zone for nuclear weapons purposes that that's a that's
00:26:24.780 a threat to israel's uh existence that cannot be tolerated so all of these things mean i think we
00:26:30.300 have to be end ending uh some of this transcriptment that we cannot afford to make at the moment to
00:26:36.440 ukraine hang on we're frank gaffney's going to stick with us we're going to talk about the
00:26:40.700 potential battlefields around the world where do we stand with all that also we're going to go back to
00:26:46.980 the uh who has betrayed us already only in the world
00:26:51.600 you move toward an end game how do we move toward a negotiated peace i think that's up for the
00:27:02.320 ukrainians to decide that uh so what is acceptable to ukraine uh that's that's territory intact whatever
00:27:08.220 that answer is going to be is it militarily possible for us to get russians for the ukrainians get every
00:27:13.520 russian troop out of their country and crimea i don't think it's militarily possible for the
00:27:18.840 russians to achieve their initial strategic objectives political objectives by military
00:27:23.620 means i don't think that's possible anymore on the flip side uh the ukrainians i think for this year
00:27:28.820 it would be very very difficult uh not impossible but very very difficult uh for the ukrainians to
00:27:34.500 achieve their political objectives and their stated political objective is to for for every single
00:27:39.940 russian to leave every single inch of ukrainian territory i think that's a very high bar i think 0.92
00:27:45.260 from a military standpoint only that'd be extraordinarily difficult to achieve militarily
00:27:49.560 this year uh what is achievable uh i think is a significant uh liberation of of ukrainian territory and
00:27:57.540 maybe if we're lucky touch wood uh the diplomats will enter the fray here and and and they'll get to
00:28:03.700 a negotiating table at some point uh i think at the end of the day uh president biden president
00:28:09.140 zelinski uh every european leader said the same thing which is this war lended a negotiating table
00:28:14.140 and that's probably right frank when you were in the pentagon in the 80s when i was there in the early
00:28:20.080 80s uh as one of the age of the chief of naval operations um having come back off the fleet and
00:28:27.280 my anti-submarine warfare destroyer our mission and mandate was essentially hunting fast attack
00:28:34.180 soviet submarines there was there was the the battle plan at the time there was there was all
00:28:40.340 about maneuver warfare combined arms maneuver warfare deep interdiction you know maybe it would
00:28:46.240 lead to if things didn't turn out right it might lead to tactical nuclear weapons this is where they
00:28:51.160 forward deploy the persians others but there was never a plan the least i saw and i think i think
00:28:58.920 i had to go through all of them and sit through all the meetings where there was a world war one type
00:29:04.200 just pounded out artillery shell for artillery shell as you've seen this ukrainian war develop over the
00:29:11.700 last year and now they're just pounding each other relentlessly and and really we're feeding in
00:29:16.440 all of our munitions i think the chinese are already started supplying the the russians the only
00:29:22.460 way really the russians can keep up at it um when when you hear milley sit there and admit
00:29:29.300 that it's impossible to to remove all russians from all land and we now call them war criminals 0.99
00:29:37.880 and he kind of flippantly says this will all end of the negotiating table
00:29:42.020 walk me through that did you ever see any plan for just this world war one type
00:29:47.800 in your face trench warfare attrition warfare and that means basically you run out of munitions you
00:29:54.040 run out of money you run out of men and if it's all just to get to the negotiating table why are
00:29:59.180 they not the negotiating table now
00:30:00.680 good question steve i i'm not sure that i saw all the plans that you saw um whether there was some
00:30:08.680 contingency for a world war one style thing somewhere in the files i don't know but uh my
00:30:14.480 guess is that we have not been terribly serious about war fighting uh on the european continent
00:30:23.320 for decades let's face it um you mentioned earlier the the hollowness really of nato's forces on the
00:30:33.180 ground uh we in the peace dividend moment uh decided to withdraw a lot of our forces some of
00:30:39.620 them captain bannon among others took back but still it's a it's a fraction of what it was at the
00:30:45.260 height of the cold war for sure and most of those allies i'm not sure i would characterize them as
00:30:50.660 vassals but i would certainly suggest that they're not armed for their self-defense and they are relying
00:30:57.920 upon us to provide that defense to them whether that's done through um some kind of uh maneuver
00:31:05.020 capability whether it's done through um advanced technologies that are more uh you know uh delivered
00:31:13.020 by missile or by aircraft rather than on the ground um whether the uh the use of nuclear weapons is
00:31:22.020 involved are all things that i think have been um not properly um re-evaluated in light of very
00:31:30.980 different circumstances that are unfolding today just today i think it was uh medved yesterday maybe um
00:31:38.200 the prime minister now again i think he's called or maybe deputy president or whatever something he and
00:31:45.220 he and vladimir putin have exchanged places several times and i can't quite keep straight
00:31:48.940 um what exactly his title is but he's a senior guy in the kremlin and he's talking about moving the
00:31:56.180 um eastern border of poland and has has nato been properly thinking about that and preparing against
00:32:06.160 that eventuality through any of these means not clear but i will say if i could steve i was intimately
00:32:12.460 involved when i was in the pentagon a long time ago in taking the steps that ronald reagan
00:32:18.320 insisted upon to restore deterrence on the continent of europe by deploying their two different
00:32:27.500 systems uh what were called intermediate range nuclear weapons they were the purging ballistic
00:32:33.040 missiles and the ground launched cruise missiles and i was among those who argued um vociferously that
00:32:40.100 we should not go into an arms control deal with the then soviet union that required us to get rid of
00:32:46.860 all of them while they would still you know have considerable theater and tactical nuclear weapons
00:32:54.000 maybe not ss-20s but maybe even those secretly but it was a moment and i think it was actually
00:33:00.700 decisive to the strategy that president reagan executed and you've chronicled it better than just
00:33:06.140 about anybody of using peace through strength and using our own unrestricted warfare against the then
00:33:15.120 soviet union and uh and soviet communist party to take them down and it was done without firing a shot
00:33:23.760 in the end partly because of that peace through strength strategy the credibility of our deterrent
00:33:28.940 and more broadly the will that ronald reagan exhibited to do just that none of those things are operating
00:33:37.100 today and i think our enemies are emboldened as a result when you talk about potential battlefields of
00:33:44.200 maybe it starts in korea maybe it starts in the south china sea maybe it starts with an air naval blockade
00:33:49.700 of taiwan of which the american economy would crater maybe it starts in the northwest frontier up with china
00:33:55.640 the ccp and the indians are basically at the at bayonet's edge with each other uh maybe it starts in uh in the 1.00
00:34:03.820 middle east with uh with persia and uh in in israel um or maybe just metastasizes uh from from from
00:34:13.740 ukraine all of that is under the uh umbrella of potential strategic nuclear forces talk to us about
00:34:21.060 that because we really in in public discourse we haven't talked about this in decades and now all
00:34:27.500 of a sudden you've got putin making moves and jumping out of the star treaty and like i said you know
00:34:31.600 my destroyer back in the old days in the 70s and 80s you know we care everybody carried tactical
00:34:36.740 nuclear weapons but it was not discussed and it was not discussed generally as as as uh policy now on
00:34:43.760 tv every day you see on msnbc and cnn they've got these military analysts flippantly talking about
00:34:49.260 low-grade tactical nuclear weapons in in crimea in eastern uh eastern uh uh ukraine over there at the
00:34:58.340 russian-speaking border and now you've got uh putin pulling out of the start and talking about
00:35:03.180 redeploying your strategic weapons how close do you think we are because we're normalizing even the
00:35:09.100 discussion trump came out the other day called the two n-words right how how concerned are you since
00:35:14.920 part of your professional career was doing this in europe are you today about the nuclear strike
00:35:20.240 capability of all this and actually getting into a situation that would actually people would be
00:35:24.240 talking about using and actually maybe using uh nuclear weapons on a battlefield you know again
00:35:31.060 just a little context uh i was working on that intermediate range nuclear forces uh stuff as a
00:35:37.460 deputy assistant secretary in the pentagon uh for four years or so with the responsibility of nuclear
00:35:44.900 weapons policy and arms control so i i was living and breathing this uh for early part of my career
00:35:51.820 and i've been worried about it ever since uh you're absolutely right i think we have taken i guess the
00:35:58.020 brits expression is a busman's holiday for a couple of decades i think i mentioned to you the other day that
00:36:04.100 we had essentially done nothing to modernize our nuclear arsenal i mean there's been some service life
00:36:13.360 extension programs and we've retooled some of our warheads but we have not innovated with the exception of
00:36:20.820 some modernization programs that are now still five six years out from replacing old missiles and old
00:36:29.360 bombers and old uh old uh sea launch ballistic missiles and submarines these are these are the
00:36:35.440 sorts of things that should have been done all along we have not done it and i'm convinced that the
00:36:41.800 american people have not had any clue that the adults who they assumed were responsible for maintaining
00:36:49.500 a credible nuclear deterrent we're not doing that we're not actually regularly testing we have not
00:36:59.740 tested a nuclear weapon underground since 1992 vladimir putin is threatening that he's going to do it if
00:37:06.640 we do it well i haven't seen any sign that the biden administration is even thinking about that they
00:37:11.960 should because we need to assure ourselves that those nuclear weapons that are aged and have actually been in some
00:37:18.960 cases um altered from their original design just to try to keep them going um will actually work but that's not
00:37:28.860 really on the table but what has to be on the table is deterrence credible deterrence and one of the steps that i think you
00:37:35.940 asked earlier about what could we be doing we could be replacing on the intercontinental range ballistic
00:37:44.480 missiles we have the land-based ones that the balloon was overflying in uh you know montana and
00:37:51.780 wyoming and the submarine-launched ballistic missiles full loads of the missiles that they uh are you know the
00:38:00.920 warheads that they're capable of carrying those missiles that would very very dramatically uh i believe
00:38:08.680 increase the deterrent to these adversaries to contemplate nuclear strikes against us something that
00:38:16.080 they not only have been preparing assiduously for both the russians and the chinese but they've actually
00:38:23.280 been exercising jointly to launch against us uh and again this all bespeaks a seriousness of purpose that
00:38:33.540 we have not evidenced and we must if we want to try to prevent what is i believe uh unavoidable and
00:38:41.820 certainly um undesirable conflict with these guys uh frank how can people get to the center for security
00:38:51.580 policy all the great um webinars because for over a year now i mean for a couple of years we've been
00:38:57.520 doing it but you've had this webinar program of the enemy within and also the enemy without
00:39:01.500 and also the indictment we know you're going to launch at cpac but where do people go to get all
00:39:06.240 your information the real america's voice show all of it well it's a couple of sites um the present
00:39:13.160 danger china.org is where you can not only see these webinars uh the 70 in the recent series and and
00:39:20.160 others going back about four years since we started the program you can sign up uh subscribe uh to get
00:39:26.780 those you know um notices and all sent to you directly that's present danger china.org uh the 0.51
00:39:33.840 website of our center for security policy which has an enormous amount of content both about china but
00:39:38.860 also many other things is at secure freedom.org real america's voice is where you can see our show
00:39:45.440 um we're very proud to be on that network with you steve and uh you can also capture it and uh
00:39:52.500 uh my daily commentaries uh which i also would encourage you to subscribe to at uh secure freedom.org
00:39:59.500 and securing america.tv and uh on social media the usual at frank afney platforms
00:40:06.140 frank thanks you so much for taking time away from this obviously you're going to be a much bigger
00:40:12.080 part of the show as we go forward in the early days of the third world war sir thank you very much
00:40:17.460 frank afney thank you steve god bless you um man what a mess what a mess we're in it's incredible
00:40:26.280 okay uh we're gonna take a short commercial break we're gonna come back i've got some closing
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00:42:58.140 do you know we don't rule out uh first use nuclear
00:43:07.820 the conditions are so bad that one woman who news nation has been in contact with has rashes on her body
00:43:34.300 after showering we're going to be with you mr president for as long as it takes
00:43:38.300 how does this whole experience feel for you um that money matters more than humanity
00:43:49.820 because she no one's so bad have been like
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00:43:58.460 so that we have two incredible manifester with a exclusive
00:44:11.620 Okay, war children, right there you see that incredible video by Max Evans.
00:44:31.420 You see the tale of three cities, East Palestine, Ohio.
00:44:37.460 Of course, the border down there, a lot of that footage is taken at El Paso.
00:44:42.040 El Paso, Yuma, Rio Grande Valley, take your pick on the invasion of the southern border, the border that matters to us.
00:44:49.160 And of course, the Ukraine, and you've got, what is it, Senator Wicker of Mississippi, he's a Republican,
00:44:55.540 talking about we have not ruled out first use tactical nuclear strikes.
00:45:02.180 The language is getting very loose, and what we're trying to do is tighten up here
00:45:07.380 and make sure that you guys have the best understanding, you're provided the best information,
00:45:11.400 whether that's about the financial crisis that we face, the economic crisis,
00:45:15.340 or the early days of the Third World War as we slide more and more into a kinetic war.
00:45:21.340 So that's why that video with the Gimme Shelter and the war children I think is very, very appropriate.
00:45:26.660 Obviously, in the coming week and next week at CPAC, you still can get your tickets.
00:45:31.700 Go to cpac.org slash war, and we get 47 bucks off that.
00:45:36.080 We want to see everybody there.
00:45:37.200 We're going to have so many of the people that you see all the time.
00:45:39.240 You get to meet them.
00:45:39.940 You get to hang out, ask their opinions.
00:45:42.120 Also, tonight I'll be in Oklahoma City with the Oklahoma County GOP for their Lincoln-Reagan dinner.
00:45:51.180 I'm giving the talk, and it's at the Cowboy Hall of Fame.
00:45:54.360 I think it's called the Museum of Western Heritage.
00:45:56.720 It's absolutely one of the great museums in this country, and I couldn't be more excited.
00:46:00.620 So if you're in the greater Oklahoma area, you'll see it.
00:46:03.440 Captain Bannon and Grace will have it up in the live chats.
00:46:08.160 And so we've got a lot going on.
00:46:09.820 We're going to be fully deployed at CPAC.
00:46:11.740 We want everybody there.
00:46:12.960 Also, one of the things we're going to be doing in the days and weeks ahead is because, look, all bets are off here.
00:46:20.540 I mean, you have people throwing around terms about kinetic war that I didn't think I'd see again in my lifetime.
00:46:26.660 And having been on a Navy destroyer in the South China Sea in the Western Pacific, to think that, I don't know, 40 years, 50 years later,
00:46:34.540 that you could have this – you could have loose talk that they're talking about nuclear weapons.
00:46:41.140 And we just got through what I think was at least a partial biological weapons attack.
00:46:46.520 We are uncharted territories.
00:46:48.060 And that's why next week we're going to be launching is not just the indictment with Frank Gaffney.
00:46:52.560 We've got a totally free – the birch gold.
00:46:55.760 We've done the entire third apart talking about the debt trap of the fall of the dollar empire.
00:47:01.940 We think that everybody's got to immerse themselves now in alternatives and look at precious metals.
00:47:06.680 One way to do it is to get – understand what's happened to the U.S. dollar, the history of the U.S. dollar, and what it looks like in the future.
00:47:13.060 The My Patriot Supply guys, we want everybody to get immersed there.
00:47:15.820 You've got home title lock, iTarget, which cuts the cost of your ammo, the satellite phone store.
00:47:22.500 You know, every time they get a special, they come right to us.
00:47:24.960 We blow it out.
00:47:26.580 It's sold out automatically.
00:47:28.640 You've got the public SQ.
00:47:30.020 One of the big things we're focused here is stop giving your money to people that hate you.
00:47:34.720 And one of the ways we're doing that is make sure that you immerse yourself and think about alternatives.
00:47:39.200 We want everybody to learn as much as possible about crypto.
00:47:42.000 That's where we have Mark Jetovic on here, the FJB community.
00:47:46.080 That's a community that we intend to grow and grow strongly and rapidly this year.
00:47:50.260 Also Enviroclans, which is – I've fallen in love with because there was one of my responsibilities on my destroyer was the air system.
00:47:58.260 And right now, given what you've seen in East Palestine and what you're going to see more of as we get more into these hearings is going to blow you away.
00:48:05.180 And, of course, the guys at COVID Tax Relief, you know, if you went through PPP, you still got a shot.
00:48:11.300 For legislation already passed, you're not shaking down the Treasury.
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00:48:17.460 We're going to make sure you get fully immersed in all of it.
00:48:20.300 Okay, I've got to roll here.
00:48:22.160 We'll be back.
00:48:22.940 I'll be up on Getter all weekend.
00:48:25.260 I want you to check it out there.
00:48:26.500 And, of course, we're going to be back 10 a.m. Monday morning where we are going to be discussing the early days of the Third World War, the American economy.
00:48:37.180 Congress is back.
00:48:37.980 The investigation is going to start.
00:48:39.780 CPAC's next week.
00:48:40.780 It's going to be wall-to-wall, jammed.
00:48:43.080 We'll see you at 10 a.m. Monday morning.
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