Bannon's War Room - March 24, 2023


Episode 2610： Mainstreet Takes On The Burden Of Wallstreet


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

164.59149

Word Count

9,152

Sentence Count

638

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

On today's show, Stephan Kamb and I discuss the latest CNN poll that shows Donald Trump crushing Republican primary challenger Ron DeSantis among white voters making less than $50,000 a year. We also talk about the growing populist nationalist coalition that Trump is building with white voters, and why it could be key to the 2020 election.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:10.660 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:17.260 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:21.020 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:24.600 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:32.420 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:40.360 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:00:47.580 obvious so do the numbers back this up this regular people argument you know if ron de
00:00:59.660 santis was doing as well with voters who make less than fifty thousand dollars a year as he is with
00:01:04.940 voters making over fifty thousand dollars a year this race would be tied between him and donald trump
00:01:09.280 but in fact what we see is that ron de santis has a major problem among republicans who make less than
00:01:14.900 fifty thousand dollars a year i mean you can see it on your slide right there he is down by nearly
00:01:19.380 30 points that donald trump among voters who make less gop voters who make less than fifty thousand
00:01:24.180 dollars a year and that's the reason why he's trailing in the primary so his clip doesn't make
00:01:28.020 all that much sense to me to be honest with you all right so hold this up for one more second just as
00:01:31.800 i set up the next question so you see that um donald trump is doing much better right with this group
00:01:37.760 under fifty thousand dollars is that the same way it was for trump uh in the last cycles yeah if you
00:01:44.740 look back at 2016 you know there was this whole idea that donald trump ran this populist campaign
00:01:49.280 right and he was doing well among you know the quote-unquote his quote poorly educated people but
00:01:54.440 in fact there was no real gap on income he did about as well with voters who made less than fifty
00:02:00.040 thousand dollars as he did with those making more than fifty thousand dollars so this year we've seen
00:02:04.320 this income gap really grow and this trump populist campaign really seem to take off okay so that which is
00:02:10.460 very interesting because and you're talking about things with trump taking off right the context
00:02:14.240 everyone's hearing about is all this legal issue and is that going to put you know take all the
00:02:18.500 bloom off the rose such that there was any left but you're talking about not just income but also a
00:02:24.080 coalition that appears to be coming together for trump yes that democrats would actually like yeah it's
00:02:30.020 very interesting in a republican primary the two groups who donald trump is doing very well well
00:02:34.940 amongst are white voters making under fifty thousand dollars he has a double digit advantage with them
00:02:39.840 as well as non-white voters this is the type of coalition that democrats would love to have in a
00:02:45.060 general election and what we're in fact seeing is that in this republican primary donald trump is
00:02:49.620 doing what democrats would love to have and what they used to have but donald trump is doing
00:02:53.640 themself they're doing stuff with of course but i should note with the gop primary and that's not a
00:02:58.520 high minority group no but they still make up nearly twenty percent of the gop electorate which is
00:03:03.720 important okay so for people who might say okay harry but it's important twenty percent significant thanks
00:03:08.280 trump won and you know it trump won and you know it
00:03:28.180 the fake news
00:03:30.180 the fake news will never show it cause it's true trump won and you know it
00:03:35.600 we got dead people voting drop boxes and dominion
00:03:43.000 and facts are facts it's not just my opinion
00:03:50.240 the democrats know how to steal
00:03:55.880 come on
00:04:05.380 like
00:04:21.060 You know what I'm doing now?
00:04:22.600 Patriots fill stadiums,
00:04:25.400 hot circles in an empty room.
00:04:30.560 Twitter and the FBI.
00:04:34.700 One day you won't deny
00:04:37.060 Trump won and you know it.
00:04:40.760 Trump won and you know it.
00:04:44.440 The big news won't ever show it.
00:04:47.300 Cause it's true.
00:04:48.460 Trump won and you know it.
00:04:51.060 The thing about truth.
00:05:10.380 Okay.
00:05:11.140 It's Friday 24 March in the year of our Lord 2023.
00:05:14.620 And we are kicking off Waco weekend with,
00:05:18.620 that's CNN on the Aaron Burnett show last night.
00:05:22.000 Harry Enten,
00:05:22.760 the really pretty strong pollster over there talking about the populist nationalist coalition that President Trump has put together.
00:05:29.680 Absolutely crushing Ron DeSantis.
00:05:31.980 He says,
00:05:32.440 you know,
00:05:32.660 they see how they equate under $50,000 with poorly educated.
00:05:37.460 See that?
00:05:38.000 See a little job at you.
00:05:38.880 No.
00:05:39.560 You are the vanguard of turning this country around.
00:05:43.340 And of course,
00:05:44.560 you're,
00:05:45.240 you're part of the Trump movement,
00:05:47.700 MAGA,
00:05:48.220 America first,
00:05:48.940 all of it to set,
00:05:49.860 set things right in this nation.
00:05:52.480 I think it's going to be a great weekend.
00:05:54.200 The Waco,
00:05:54.580 the first big kickoff of a rally tomorrow at Waco,
00:05:57.420 Texas,
00:05:57.900 50,000 people.
00:05:58.880 I think the place holds 50,000 or the field holds 50,000.
00:06:03.200 We're going to get to all of that.
00:06:04.800 We got a lot going on today as the world's financial system.
00:06:08.240 Now,
00:06:08.520 of course,
00:06:08.800 the Swiss now are pointing the fingers at the Biden regime and the American banking system.
00:06:14.320 They're blaming that on what's taken down a credit a Swiss.
00:06:18.300 And now the Germans,
00:06:19.720 Deutsche Bank are down earlier today,
00:06:21.600 13% in one day because of getting a little risky to do credit default swaps.
00:06:27.680 I mean,
00:06:28.320 what it takes to actually make sure the bank doesn't default on any of its bonds,
00:06:31.640 kind of technical where you get that.
00:06:33.160 We got Stephanie Pomboy is going to join us.
00:06:35.820 Dave Bratt,
00:06:36.460 Steve Cortez,
00:06:37.180 we're going to get a lot to the economy,
00:06:38.620 inflation,
00:06:39.740 all of it today,
00:06:40.900 plus politics.
00:06:41.700 We want to start.
00:06:42.400 We've got America's mayor,
00:06:44.440 the greatest mayor in the history of America's greatest city.
00:06:47.560 That would be Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
00:06:49.760 Rudy,
00:06:50.200 here's the thing.
00:06:50.960 We don't spend a second on this show,
00:06:54.120 except when we get Mike Davis on it,
00:06:55.540 Boris for quick hits on all this madness with all these different things.
00:07:00.020 They're trying to run Trump because it's quite simple.
00:07:01.640 They understand they can't beat him at the ballot box.
00:07:04.180 So they had,
00:07:05.080 they had the,
00:07:05.860 the CCP virus.
00:07:07.860 They can pull all the games in 2020 to stop president Trump.
00:07:11.300 They're not going to have that this time.
00:07:12.760 They got to come something else.
00:07:14.260 Hey,
00:07:14.660 they think a prison may stop him.
00:07:16.500 Impossible.
00:07:17.120 He's not stoppable.
00:07:18.200 He's going to win the primary in a blowout.
00:07:20.080 He'll win the general in a blowout.
00:07:21.800 He's going to return to be president of the United States.
00:07:24.480 But Rudy,
00:07:24.880 give me your assessment.
00:07:25.640 You see CNN talking about this populace.
00:07:27.700 You were with us in 16.
00:07:29.280 You rode shotgun the entire time.
00:07:31.520 You saw it happening.
00:07:32.440 In fact,
00:07:32.660 you and I used to talk on the plane all the time about,
00:07:34.680 you saw something different coming together,
00:07:37.120 working class people,
00:07:38.360 Democrats,
00:07:39.240 independents,
00:07:40.340 and of course,
00:07:41.420 Trump Republicans coming together.
00:07:43.120 What do you think?
00:07:43.900 What do you think of our coalition this time,
00:07:46.180 sir?
00:07:47.340 Oh,
00:07:47.880 well,
00:07:48.420 first of all,
00:07:48.880 it's the same coalition except on steroids.
00:07:51.720 And I saw it,
00:07:53.120 you know,
00:07:53.780 I was,
00:07:54.260 I was a sort of office advisor for about five or six months.
00:07:58.260 And then I went out on the road full time with him.
00:08:00.580 I think it was in June.
00:08:01.980 We go to a place in Ohio.
00:08:03.940 First rally I had been to.
00:08:06.300 We're pulling up to the rally.
00:08:07.720 It's about 94 degrees out of the very warm day.
00:08:10.740 And there are about eight,
00:08:12.280 10,000 people outside.
00:08:13.760 We're going for miles and there are people waiting to get in.
00:08:16.000 And I said,
00:08:16.420 Donald,
00:08:16.840 because I could call him that then thinking I'm the experienced
00:08:20.300 campaigner,
00:08:21.000 right?
00:08:21.620 Donald,
00:08:22.000 we should wait a little,
00:08:23.440 let these people get in.
00:08:25.160 Oh,
00:08:25.580 he said,
00:08:26.000 mayor.
00:08:26.340 No,
00:08:26.540 no,
00:08:26.700 no.
00:08:27.380 There are 20,000 people inside.
00:08:29.760 I said,
00:08:30.320 this is June,
00:08:31.940 like five months to go to the election.
00:08:33.620 And you're drawing 20,
00:08:34.980 30,
00:08:35.480 40,000 people.
00:08:37.120 I said,
00:08:37.680 I don't need to know you're going to win.
00:08:39.780 You're going to win.
00:08:40.520 I never saw enthusiasm like this in a presidential campaign.
00:08:43.540 And I've been watching campaigns going back to Kennedy.
00:08:46.460 Ronald Reagan didn't draw this.
00:08:48.120 And he was my hero.
00:08:49.780 He had,
00:08:50.560 he had from the very beginning,
00:08:52.000 a natural appeal to the,
00:08:53.820 we used to call it the common man,
00:08:55.280 you know,
00:08:55.640 even a great piece of music about that.
00:08:59.640 And,
00:08:59.960 he has that natural feel.
00:09:04.180 It is strange.
00:09:05.040 He's a,
00:09:05.340 he's a billionaire,
00:09:06.560 a New Yorker should be an elitist,
00:09:08.780 but you know,
00:09:10.560 he's sort of a reaction against that.
00:09:12.100 Kind of like I am.
00:09:13.560 I mean,
00:09:14.040 I,
00:09:14.280 I hated that New York elite cocktail party.
00:09:18.120 You got to repeat what they say.
00:09:20.480 And they all think that this whole thing about uneducated people,
00:09:23.560 maybe they're smarter because they haven't been brainwashed by the Marxist.
00:09:27.800 I mean,
00:09:28.520 you might be better off if you're uneducated and you might have a better ability to have common sense because American schools,
00:09:35.840 not all,
00:09:36.580 but a good percentage of them have been brainwashing factories,
00:09:39.980 you know,
00:09:40.740 run by the UFT,
00:09:42.480 the education association,
00:09:44.540 the professors,
00:09:45.720 brainwashing you into,
00:09:46.800 into hating America,
00:09:48.660 hating what we stand for,
00:09:49.700 hating our way of life,
00:09:50.680 hating God.
00:09:52.560 You put that all together.
00:09:53.860 You got to kind of an evil country.
00:09:56.980 Rudy Biden's polling.
00:10:00.980 Of course,
00:10:01.300 they buried the lead headline was Biden hits a close to new low on polling.
00:10:05.840 And you had to go down 10 paragraphs.
00:10:07.440 This is in the associated press.
00:10:08.540 I have it up on getter right now is at 38%.
00:10:11.680 You have the banking system in this country is completely imploding.
00:10:15.340 The only thing keeping the banking system up is this audience because they're underwriting these bailouts.
00:10:20.880 Give me your assessment of where you've seen a lot of us presidents.
00:10:23.620 What's your assessment right now of,
00:10:25.080 of Joe Biden essentially halfway through the horse race of his,
00:10:29.740 of his first and only term,
00:10:31.700 sir?
00:10:32.720 Well,
00:10:33.220 you know,
00:10:33.560 I,
00:10:33.980 I heard Newt last night and I've talked to him about it.
00:10:37.240 And I think we both agree.
00:10:38.380 The real question is,
00:10:39.260 does he have a real breakdown before we get to the finish line?
00:10:42.300 Quite a possibility.
00:10:43.460 If you study the disease,
00:10:44.720 it's a,
00:10:45.840 it's a progressive disease,
00:10:47.560 which is like progressive Democrat.
00:10:50.140 It means you deteriorate.
00:10:51.920 And,
00:10:52.420 uh,
00:10:52.700 it's inevitable.
00:10:54.160 Medicines can be a slight hold on it.
00:10:56.980 And we see that sometimes we see them sometimes a little better than others.
00:11:00.360 The other day,
00:11:00.820 he couldn't know,
00:11:01.300 he didn't know his wife was.
00:11:02.720 They cover up his,
00:11:04.180 um,
00:11:04.980 his constant,
00:11:07.560 constant misuse of the language,
00:11:09.440 forgetting,
00:11:10.580 uh,
00:11:10.780 stumbling.
00:11:11.580 If you go on Australian television,
00:11:13.460 they sum it up.
00:11:14.620 Can you pick up things that you haven't seen,
00:11:16.820 you know,
00:11:17.420 on American television,
00:11:18.480 but he's falling apart.
00:11:20.100 He's literally falling apart.
00:11:21.460 Will he make it to the finish line?
00:11:23.100 And by that,
00:11:23.580 I mean,
00:11:24.320 will he be able to continue to talk next year at this time?
00:11:26.840 I don't know.
00:11:28.180 He has a serious case of dementia.
00:11:30.720 We can't escape it.
00:11:32.220 People,
00:11:32.780 uh,
00:11:33.060 avoid it either because they don't care or they're afraid of Kamala Harris.
00:11:38.220 Uh,
00:11:38.740 the world is falling apart.
00:11:40.860 I mean,
00:11:41.000 everything he does is falling apart.
00:11:43.380 China is becoming so.
00:11:44.600 But Rudy is,
00:11:45.280 is,
00:11:45.700 is,
00:11:46.060 is,
00:11:46.380 is,
00:11:46.680 is the dementia,
00:11:47.680 you know,
00:11:48.060 Shakespeare tells us was a,
00:11:49.320 Mark Anthony,
00:11:49.860 the evil,
00:11:50.940 uh,
00:11:51.340 that men do live on long past their lives.
00:11:54.980 The,
00:11:55.260 the,
00:11:55.440 the good they do is interred with their bones.
00:11:57.940 Isn't the bite.
00:11:58.820 Isn't it the Biden regime is not Joe Biden.
00:12:00.640 I would actually argue he's not really in charge anyway.
00:12:02.800 It has not been in charge from day one,
00:12:04.440 sir.
00:12:06.400 But then they would have to come up with a running mate.
00:12:09.120 I mean,
00:12:09.660 if,
00:12:09.800 if he,
00:12:10.080 if he does have an episode,
00:12:11.500 which wouldn't be surprising in which he can't function,
00:12:15.120 then they're going to have to come up with a,
00:12:17.460 but somebody else to run.
00:12:19.480 So I wouldn't count that out.
00:12:20.900 I don't say that that's,
00:12:21.820 uh,
00:12:22.200 necessarily true,
00:12:23.240 but there's just a good,
00:12:24.340 a chance of that as he makes it to the finish line.
00:12:26.720 And I don't see when the American people confront Joe Biden,
00:12:31.080 uh,
00:12:32.040 that they're going to,
00:12:32.640 uh,
00:12:33.320 they could possibly reelect him.
00:12:35.200 I mean,
00:12:35.700 they were fooled.
00:12:36.460 They were fooled once because they hit the hard drive.
00:12:39.760 Those people say by large numbers,
00:12:41.760 they'd vote against him.
00:12:42.700 I don't even,
00:12:44.040 I think his disapproval rating is higher than reflected in the polls,
00:12:48.540 but I think there's still people who feel sorry for him.
00:12:52.660 Do you,
00:12:53.380 have you ever seen,
00:12:54.340 uh,
00:12:54.820 a situation where the receipts were given that the Chinese Communist Party
00:12:58.280 actually sent cash to these people for via wire transfer and the
00:13:02.280 mainstream media refuses to focus on,
00:13:04.960 uh,
00:13:05.200 what Comer's finding at the,
00:13:06.580 at the house,
00:13:07.260 uh,
00:13:07.500 oversight committee,
00:13:08.240 sir.
00:13:09.280 Yeah.
00:13:09.800 I said a complete loss of any sense of,
00:13:12.120 uh,
00:13:12.840 patriotism on the part of the media.
00:13:14.760 I'm not sure they know they're Americans.
00:13:16.660 I mean,
00:13:17.140 this isn't that when you get to the Chinese communist paying off,
00:13:21.420 uh,
00:13:21.680 the family of the current president of the United States,
00:13:23.560 I don't even want to tell you what we're talking about.
00:13:25.900 I just asked people that can consider if this were true with,
00:13:29.240 uh,
00:13:29.720 uh,
00:13:30.160 uh,
00:13:31.060 Kennedy or Reagan and they were paid money by the Soviet Union.
00:13:34.580 I mean,
00:13:35.060 suppose we found out that the Kennedy family got 13,
00:13:37.220 14 million from,
00:13:38.300 uh,
00:13:39.700 Soviet communists or,
00:13:41.080 uh,
00:13:41.260 or,
00:13:41.580 uh,
00:13:41.720 Reagan did.
00:13:42.740 Uh,
00:13:43.100 we put them out of office in a second and,
00:13:45.240 uh,
00:13:45.520 probably put them in jail.
00:13:47.240 I mean,
00:13:47.760 it comes pretty close to treason taking money from our sworn enemy who wants
00:13:52.780 to overtake us now has a bigger Navy,
00:13:55.240 wants to have a bigger army.
00:13:57.300 And then,
00:13:57.660 and then he does things that irrationally favor them.
00:14:02.140 Like,
00:14:02.580 uh,
00:14:02.960 closing down the Bagram air base,
00:14:04.520 400 miles from China.
00:14:05.580 I mean,
00:14:07.000 China would have to have bribed somebody to have that happen.
00:14:10.340 Oh,
00:14:10.660 gee,
00:14:10.900 did they?
00:14:12.000 I mean,
00:14:12.220 how many,
00:14:12.640 how many coincidences do you want me to accept between him favoring China
00:14:17.600 irrationally and his family getting,
00:14:20.040 uh,
00:14:20.160 I believe it's about 40 million from the red Chinese.
00:14:24.280 As I do my calculations,
00:14:25.460 I had at Miranda on my show yesterday and together we tried to add up what we
00:14:30.680 have.
00:14:31.040 And we come in North at 31 minutes,
00:14:33.500 31.
00:14:35.660 Uh,
00:14:35.960 Rudy,
00:14:36.320 can you hang on one second?
00:14:37.260 We're gonna take a short break.
00:14:38.500 We have a brat with us.
00:14:39.960 Stephanie Pomboy,
00:14:40.800 the macro maven is going to join us.
00:14:42.460 We're going to talk about Tik TOK.
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00:16:28.780 Stephen K.
00:16:29.480 Babb.
00:16:29.840 I was in London for a speech
00:16:47.540 that I gave to people on securities fraud.
00:16:51.300 One person put up his hand and said,
00:16:53.700 you know,
00:16:54.600 I'm having trouble with this warning that I was given by my travel agent
00:16:58.280 about going to New York.
00:17:00.220 Can you interpret this for me?
00:17:01.760 And it was a list of 10 things to do or not do
00:17:06.680 to avoid being the victim of crime in New York.
00:17:10.040 I said to myself,
00:17:11.200 who would go to a city where you have to be given 10 warnings?
00:17:15.280 You won't get killed.
00:17:41.200 Okay, welcome back.
00:17:59.900 You're in the war room.
00:18:01.280 That is Aaron Copeland's fanfare for the common man
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00:18:08.560 Rudy, Matthew Taylor is an extraordinary young filmmaker.
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00:18:39.560 This movie shows that properly motivated human beings
00:18:44.460 are the answer.
00:18:48.480 And okay, I led it, but gosh, it'll show you
00:18:52.040 I had an awful lot of help from the so-called uneducated people
00:18:58.180 in particular.
00:18:59.500 I mean, the regular citizens of New York
00:19:01.860 who just rose up after 50 years of democratic corruption
00:19:05.900 and democratic crimes and riots and 2,200 murders a year
00:19:11.760 and said, enough.
00:19:13.260 We're not that stupid.
00:19:14.540 We're not going to let you kill our kids.
00:19:16.220 And they took a chance on me.
00:19:17.680 I had never been in public office.
00:19:19.200 I had run once and lost narrowly by a percent.
00:19:21.680 I did have a record as a very, very effective United States attorney in New York.
00:19:27.340 So, I mean, I had that advantage.
00:19:30.020 And I was the first Republican elected in 25 years
00:19:33.700 and only the third elected in the 20th century.
00:19:37.260 So it wasn't easy to win.
00:19:40.060 And every one of my friends told me I was going to lose,
00:19:42.620 including, you know, my good friends who cared about me.
00:19:45.160 They worked for me and they helped me get elected ultimately.
00:19:48.060 But they were convinced I was good.
00:19:49.400 I spent my entire campaign convincing my campaign staff that I had a chance.
00:19:53.880 And when we won, I took on an attitude, which I got from a gentleman.
00:19:58.260 I don't know if you knew him, Arnie Burns.
00:19:59.640 He was the deputy attorney general in the second part of Sumis.
00:20:02.960 And Arnie said to me, govern like you're a one-term mayor.
00:20:07.080 And it might just work.
00:20:08.680 Don't worry about getting reelected.
00:20:10.820 It was historic enough.
00:20:11.560 You got elected.
00:20:12.100 Just do everything that hasn't been done that you can think of.
00:20:18.380 Because if you lose, you can keep pointing back to it.
00:20:21.880 And we can keep on that agenda.
00:20:24.000 And we wouldn't have given it.
00:20:24.920 And if you win, you'll do a miracle.
00:20:28.160 And after a year and a half in office, I was at about 38% approval.
00:20:33.220 And I won by 20%.
00:20:34.700 I won on a landslide.
00:20:36.920 I mean, the last real Republican to get a vote like that in New York.
00:20:42.100 And so it worked.
00:20:45.640 I literally, I mean, I can simplify it very simply.
00:20:48.900 I did all the things that a common sense conservative would do.
00:20:53.940 Hannity, when I was running for president and being attacked as being too moderate a Republican,
00:20:58.560 used to say, you know, I lived here when he was the mayor.
00:21:01.280 He's the most conservative guy running for president.
00:21:03.380 More conservative, any of these people on the ticket, including, you know, McCain and Romney and maybe not Mike Huckabee.
00:21:15.120 But people didn't know that.
00:21:18.760 I mean, I did Workfare, the most successful Workfare program ever.
00:21:22.580 I got 500,000 people off welfare.
00:21:25.420 I got jobs for 400,000 of them.
00:21:28.300 People don't remember that.
00:21:29.340 I mean, I instituted conservative programs that Clinton later borrowed.
00:21:34.880 Now, we did Workfare before Clinton, two years before.
00:21:37.820 And I worked with Clinton when he decided, when Doug Morris had the triangulation and the switch.
00:21:43.120 I worked with him on welfare reform.
00:21:45.080 I worked with him.
00:21:45.880 I worked with Biden and Schumer on the crime bill.
00:21:48.580 So, Rudy, so what's happened today?
00:21:53.320 Give me two minutes on where the city is today.
00:21:55.580 Bragg's out of control.
00:21:56.620 Letitia James is out of control.
00:21:57.920 You've got a mayor who, one moment's a devout Christian.
00:22:00.960 The other moment's out of control.
00:22:03.140 What happened?
00:22:04.280 This film should be the fall, rise, and fall of New York City, the greatest city in the world,
00:22:08.540 because it's a worse mess today, I think, than even when you took over, sir.
00:22:13.900 In some ways, yes.
00:22:14.940 In some ways, no.
00:22:15.800 I mean, in crime, for example, the crimes are bolder.
00:22:18.340 There are less of them, but they're bolder, because they're empowered by the Democrats.
00:22:22.740 And the city is much more now like the rest of the Democrat cities throughout the country.
00:22:28.700 It used to be New York was the crime capital of America.
00:22:32.920 Where now, you know, you've got to argue, is Philadelphia more dangerous?
00:22:36.700 Chicago is definitely more dangerous.
00:22:38.900 Los Angeles and San Francisco are even worse off.
00:22:41.240 So it used to be that New York City was the, you know, poster boy for crime and everything else.
00:22:46.320 It's like 70 American cities, almost all of whom are Democrats.
00:22:50.480 The downfall is the Marxist-Democrat philosophy.
00:22:57.540 I always said when I ran and when I was studying it and lecturing on it, this is a question of policies.
00:23:03.460 Human beings create the crime problems, and human beings can solve the crime problems.
00:23:09.320 The policies in place by Democrat mayors and Soros DAs encourage crime.
00:23:15.560 They include such things as, I can tell you there are 7,000 or more people on the street now in New York who are preying on people that wouldn't be there if I were the mayor or if Bloomberg and Ray Kelly were in office.
00:23:30.300 They'd be in jail right now, which means they wouldn't be raping people, beating people, throwing them all.
00:23:36.460 I think I have our candidate for the next cycle against Adams.
00:23:42.720 I think Mayor Rudy Giuliani's got to return.
00:23:45.200 Like, Cincinnati's from the plow to save his beloved New York City.
00:23:49.920 The Gothams are, Rudy, where do people, you're putting out content all day long.
00:23:53.820 You've got a show with Dr. Ryan on Sunday mornings.
00:23:56.140 How do people get to your radio show?
00:23:57.600 How do they get to the podcast?
00:23:58.920 How do they get to all your content, and particularly your Sunday show?
00:24:01.980 The best way to get to all my content is RudyGiulianiCS.com, including my now doing really well live cast at 8 o'clock at night.
00:24:13.480 I mean, we do over a minimum of 100,000 every night and get calls from all over.
00:24:20.200 So you go to RudyGiulianiCS.com.
00:24:23.060 You can get all of it.
00:24:24.340 And also on radio, I'm on WABCradio.com, and that's on 3 to 4 every day, and with Dr. Ryan on Sunday between 10 and 11.
00:24:34.900 So it's pretty easy to find it.
00:24:38.300 Where do people get the live cast?
00:24:40.240 Where is that on your site?
00:24:41.340 Where do they go?
00:24:43.320 You can go on Getter, Facebook.
00:24:47.860 Twitter gets the most.
00:24:49.400 Getter gets the second most.
00:24:50.920 Those are the YouTube live.
00:24:53.060 We're all over the place.
00:24:54.960 And like on Twitter alone, we go up to 100,000.
00:24:59.040 On Getter, we're like going crazy.
00:25:02.980 People love to call in.
00:25:04.060 Fantastic competition.
00:25:06.700 I get the enemy.
00:25:07.700 Murdoch has blinked.
00:25:09.680 Murdoch has blinked, and Sean Hannity is going to have Trump on for an hour on Monday.
00:25:13.940 The Murdoch slash DeSantis News Network finally understands the math that DeSantis is not going to win the primary.
00:25:21.660 So now the Murdochs, in their own classy fashion, are going to start putting President Trump on.
00:25:26.660 Rudy, fantastic.
00:25:28.160 I've got to talk to you offline because we have to talk about your upcoming campaign against Eric Adams.
00:25:36.780 New York needs you more than ever now, sir.
00:25:40.560 Let's take care of 24, my friend.
00:25:42.820 You and I remember a heartache in 20, huh?
00:25:48.440 We don't want to live through that again, right?
00:25:49.940 Not going to do that again, Rudy.
00:25:53.960 This time, we're going to – he won in 20.
00:25:56.900 He didn't close, though.
00:25:57.840 You've got to close the deal.
00:25:59.300 We're going to both win and close, right, in 2024.
00:26:02.380 You've got to always be closing.
00:26:05.140 The country's gone.
00:26:06.060 Mayor, thank you so much, brother.
00:26:07.560 I don't have to be patient if we don't make it this time.
00:26:09.620 The country's gone.
00:26:11.480 The country's gone.
00:26:12.360 That's why Trump's going to win, and Trump's going to be in the White House.
00:26:15.100 We're going to – as sure as the turning of the earth.
00:26:19.220 You can tell they're trying to use everything.
00:26:20.800 They're trying to throw up everything in the world to stop it, Rudy, but it's not going to work.
00:26:25.240 Yep.
00:26:25.760 Let me just make the –
00:26:26.460 I'm going to have you on here, Mayor.
00:26:27.700 Let me just make the point and talk about it next week and the week after.
00:26:31.640 The next two cases coming up, just as bad, if not worse, legally and factually.
00:26:38.300 They love to say, well, the next cases might be stronger.
00:26:42.080 Like heck they are.
00:26:43.440 They're just as bad.
00:26:45.280 It's all part of the –
00:26:46.120 It's all a joke.
00:26:47.820 It's a joke.
00:26:49.240 It's – they only can stop him.
00:26:51.340 They only think they can stop him legally.
00:26:53.380 That can't stop him.
00:26:54.220 It only makes him stronger.
00:26:55.220 His numbers are going up.
00:26:56.300 He's uniting the Republican Party.
00:26:58.520 They don't understand.
00:27:00.100 Again, they just called on CNN the under $50,000 people uneducated, okay, uneducated.
00:27:07.680 That's how they think of you.
00:27:08.540 They think you're nothing but trash and scum.
00:27:11.760 You're uneducated.
00:27:12.540 Oh, the $50,000, yeah, he got the uneducated voters.
00:27:15.760 Well, I beg to differ.
00:27:16.780 This show is the most complicated show in all media in the world, okay, all media in the world, and our audience is made up of people that make under $50,000 a year.
00:27:25.100 So, suck on that, mainstream media.
00:27:29.720 Mayor Giuliani, honored to have you on here.
00:27:32.660 Honored to have you on here, sir, as always.
00:27:36.460 Mayor Giuliani.
00:27:37.660 Okay, we're going to take a short break.
00:27:39.740 We've got Dave Brat.
00:27:41.380 He's got some strong opinions about what's going on with the banking system, the bailouts, all of it.
00:27:47.260 We're also going to have Stephanie Pomboy on the Macro Maven, then Steve Cortez, Tiffany Justice.
00:27:54.160 We're going to talk about TikTok.
00:27:55.540 We've got to get to that.
00:27:56.620 The CCP's weapon they have here in the United States of America.
00:28:00.340 They've got lots of weapons.
00:28:01.540 They've got lots of weapons.
00:28:02.720 We're going to talk about it all.
00:28:03.560 Short commercial break.
00:28:05.300 Back in the warm in just a moment.
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00:30:01.100 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:08.660 To explain what you think or what you make of these recent bank failures,
00:30:13.220 is it an indication of a larger problem?
00:30:17.720 Mika, it's impossible to tell.
00:30:19.900 That's the problem itself.
00:30:21.220 Banking depends upon confidence.
00:30:24.280 People have to know and feel that the banking system is sound.
00:30:29.880 And when you have a bunch of bank failures or near failures,
00:30:33.360 when you have uncertainty as to whether depositors are even going to be insured at certain banks,
00:30:39.880 at smaller banks,
00:30:40.680 when you have, you know, the crypto meltdown that we have had, FTX,
00:30:46.740 I mean, all of these, and Credit Suisse,
00:30:49.780 all of these unsettled investors,
00:30:53.100 they worry people who are depositors,
00:30:56.480 they mean that more and more money is moving to the very big banks
00:31:00.440 that are too big to fail.
00:31:02.180 But it all is nerve-wracking.
00:31:06.460 And I think that the economy already,
00:31:09.560 when interest rates...
00:31:10.420 Remember, the reason we do morning,
00:31:11.660 the reason we show morning Mika all the time,
00:31:13.820 that's the railhead for conventional thinking.
00:31:16.420 And they're scrambling now
00:31:17.520 to try to,
00:31:19.240 misdirection plays on what the problem is.
00:31:21.480 The problem is the massive spending,
00:31:23.240 Biden's massive spending,
00:31:24.480 the five, six, seven,
00:31:25.320 eight trillion dollars of incremental massive spending
00:31:27.880 led to the dumpster fire of inflation,
00:31:30.700 as we warned back in early 2021,
00:31:33.000 starting with the American Recovery Act,
00:31:35.040 led to...
00:31:35.620 So the Biden spending led to the Biden inflation,
00:31:38.040 led to the Biden bonds,
00:31:39.760 the government securities issued,
00:31:41.800 people bought them at low interest rates
00:31:43.260 under the Trump administration,
00:31:44.500 or shortly thereafter,
00:31:46.120 these things as interest rates increased
00:31:48.680 to try to choke down inflation,
00:31:50.220 the bonds collapsed,
00:31:51.780 so the Biden bonds then blew a hole into the Biden banks.
00:31:54.700 And that's the problem you have.
00:31:56.180 We're honored to have Stephanie Pomboy
00:31:57.820 on today from Macro Mavens.
00:32:00.980 Stephanie, first off,
00:32:01.860 to introduce yourself to the audience,
00:32:03.080 talk about macro for a second.
00:32:05.200 You've spent your life in this area,
00:32:07.820 and now more than ever,
00:32:09.380 it's very important.
00:32:10.460 Our audience is made up of activists
00:32:12.140 and common citizens,
00:32:13.920 not just in the United States,
00:32:14.840 but the world.
00:32:15.460 It's more important than ever,
00:32:16.640 as we keep telling people,
00:32:17.580 you have to understand the system.
00:32:20.140 Give us the situation report.
00:32:22.300 Where do we stand today,
00:32:23.220 and why is understanding macroeconomics
00:32:25.300 so important for the average citizen, ma'am?
00:32:28.420 Well, the key,
00:32:29.400 and what's really galling about this,
00:32:31.840 is that we've lived through decades,
00:32:35.100 really, Steve,
00:32:36.100 of really reckless monetary policy,
00:32:40.620 and in the recent years,
00:32:42.160 reckless fiscal policy on top of that.
00:32:45.460 And the ultimate price for that
00:32:47.960 is always paid by Main Street.
00:32:50.200 You know, Wall Street enjoys it
00:32:52.160 when the Fed prints a ton of money
00:32:53.720 and financial assets go to the sky.
00:32:57.140 But when the bill comes due,
00:32:58.620 it always ends up falling back
00:33:00.480 in terms of a massive hit to the economy,
00:33:02.900 which drives up the unemployment rate.
00:33:05.780 And then, of course,
00:33:06.940 the topic that I'm really concerned about today
00:33:09.440 is the blowback to pensions,
00:33:12.740 especially public pensions.
00:33:15.080 You know, corporate pensions,
00:33:16.440 they switched, you know,
00:33:17.960 from the defined benefit
00:33:20.360 to defined contribution years ago.
00:33:22.560 But these public pensions
00:33:23.740 are really severely underfunded now,
00:33:26.680 and we're staring down the barrel of,
00:33:28.840 in addition to a banking crisis,
00:33:30.960 or just a broad credit bust,
00:33:34.220 sort of similar to what we lived through
00:33:36.180 after the housing bubble bust in 2007-8.
00:33:39.200 And so that's going to have
00:33:40.880 a really big impact on these pensions
00:33:43.940 that, again, are already underfunded.
00:33:46.640 And I think the math there
00:33:47.940 is just going to be mind-boggling.
00:33:49.780 So while everyone, you know,
00:33:51.680 on Wall Street is focused
00:33:52.760 on the banking sector
00:33:53.860 and what's going to happen
00:33:54.680 to the stock market
00:33:55.660 and which bonds to buy and sell,
00:33:58.560 for Main Street,
00:33:59.600 it's really important to be aware
00:34:01.700 of the repercussions
00:34:04.300 of these policy mistakes
00:34:06.080 that have been built up,
00:34:07.160 again, for decades,
00:34:09.240 and how that can affect
00:34:10.760 their retirement savings.
00:34:13.360 And so, you know,
00:34:14.140 I would caution
00:34:15.200 as we go into this bubble bursting,
00:34:17.540 which is essentially
00:34:18.200 what we're seeing now,
00:34:19.880 that people really think about
00:34:22.160 how much money
00:34:23.220 they have set aside for saving.
00:34:26.000 Where is that money?
00:34:27.480 How is it saved?
00:34:29.120 Are they taking unnecessary risks
00:34:31.240 with those assets?
00:34:32.920 Where is a safe place to be?
00:34:34.900 And, you know,
00:34:36.720 to the extent that right now
00:34:37.920 you feel like everything's good
00:34:39.220 and you're enjoying dinners out and such,
00:34:42.320 you might want to start thinking
00:34:43.960 about the prospect
00:34:44.920 that the economy is going to head
00:34:46.460 into a material recession.
00:34:47.920 We're going to go through
00:34:48.940 a 2008-9 type scenario.
00:34:51.660 And, you know,
00:34:52.240 if you know that ahead of time,
00:34:53.900 how would you prepare
00:34:55.260 your household
00:34:56.320 for that eventuality
00:34:58.160 and the prospect
00:34:59.060 that maybe someone in the household
00:35:00.580 becomes unemployed?
00:35:02.240 You know,
00:35:02.780 what are you going to do?
00:35:03.500 And I hate to be like
00:35:04.940 such a negative Nancy,
00:35:06.880 but I think it's better
00:35:08.260 to be prepared.
00:35:09.220 You're not.
00:35:10.520 You're not.
00:35:11.220 It's one of the things
00:35:11.920 we do on this show
00:35:12.640 is to look, you know,
00:35:13.920 like Wellington trained his officers.
00:35:15.640 You've got to look over
00:35:16.160 the other side of the hill
00:35:17.000 and tell me what's going to go on.
00:35:18.180 So we like being months
00:35:19.340 if not years ahead of things.
00:35:21.120 I want to go back.
00:35:21.800 You've got, you know,
00:35:22.800 the Swiss today
00:35:23.920 are blaming the Americans
00:35:25.300 for the implosion
00:35:26.860 of Credit Suisse.
00:35:27.740 It says the American banking system
00:35:29.020 brought it down.
00:35:29.640 Deutsche Bank at one time
00:35:30.640 was down 13%
00:35:32.280 because the credit default swaps,
00:35:33.700 you know,
00:35:33.880 the price of guaranteeing
00:35:36.020 they can pay their bills
00:35:38.180 is going up.
00:35:39.480 The whole world now,
00:35:40.300 and of course,
00:35:40.680 this audience is the one
00:35:41.580 bailing them out
00:35:42.220 through the FDIC insurance,
00:35:43.520 all that.
00:35:44.220 We had Barry Sternlich,
00:35:46.280 we had a clip
00:35:46.720 from Barry Sternlich yesterday
00:35:47.620 talking about the commercial,
00:35:48.640 the next shoe to drop,
00:35:49.500 he says,
00:35:49.900 is the commercial
00:35:50.620 real estate market.
00:35:52.360 That's going to be
00:35:52.760 as big a bomb as the thing.
00:35:54.360 But you're saying,
00:35:55.020 I want to go back through
00:35:56.020 because I want people
00:35:56.880 to understand this.
00:35:57.740 Talk to me about,
00:35:58.500 a person like you
00:35:59.620 doesn't throw the term
00:36:00.600 around reckless a lot.
00:36:02.140 On Wall Street,
00:36:02.840 that's like a four-letter word.
00:36:04.560 When you say reckless,
00:36:05.660 tie it to the public pensions.
00:36:07.280 Are you saying
00:36:07.980 that there's another bomb
00:36:10.220 that's going to go off
00:36:11.300 and this is going to include,
00:36:12.300 they're going to be forced
00:36:13.280 to do public bailouts again
00:36:14.820 of public pensions?
00:36:16.380 Is that what you're
00:36:16.900 warning us about, ma'am?
00:36:18.140 Well, it's either that
00:36:19.500 or that we go through
00:36:21.360 what France is going through
00:36:22.500 right now
00:36:23.000 where people are protesting
00:36:24.120 a higher retirement age
00:36:26.760 because the math doesn't work.
00:36:28.820 But getting back
00:36:29.900 to the broader overview here,
00:36:32.800 again, I think what happened
00:36:34.400 in terms of reckless policy,
00:36:36.840 from a very broad brush standpoint
00:36:39.400 for your audience,
00:36:40.980 we basically lived,
00:36:42.560 basically since Alan Greenspan,
00:36:44.280 if people remember that name
00:36:45.440 back in the mid-80s,
00:36:47.100 since he became chairman
00:36:48.060 of the Federal Reserve,
00:36:49.760 every time the economy
00:36:51.240 or the stock market
00:36:52.560 stubs its toe,
00:36:54.120 the Fed immediately rushes in
00:36:56.180 with the fire hoses
00:36:57.240 and they print money
00:36:58.580 and try to flood the system
00:37:00.640 with money
00:37:01.660 to try to numb the pain of that.
00:37:04.720 So that brought us
00:37:06.540 the dot-com bubble,
00:37:08.020 if you'll remember that,
00:37:09.180 in the late 90s, early 2000s.
00:37:11.640 And when that bubble burst,
00:37:12.980 the Fed came in
00:37:13.740 and they flooded the system
00:37:15.200 with liquidity
00:37:15.900 and eventually that liquidity
00:37:17.720 all went into
00:37:18.500 the residential housing market
00:37:20.080 and people, you know,
00:37:21.740 nannies were buying
00:37:22.900 and flipping homes
00:37:23.760 and quitting their jobs
00:37:24.880 and, you know,
00:37:25.740 everyone was,
00:37:26.800 it was just free money
00:37:27.860 until that bubble burst
00:37:29.420 and then their reaction
00:37:30.440 to that was to flood
00:37:31.800 the system with more money
00:37:33.100 and here we are today
00:37:34.860 and essentially what we have
00:37:37.200 is a bubble in everything.
00:37:39.460 You know, Barry Stern looks right,
00:37:40.540 we have a bubble
00:37:41.480 in commercial real estate
00:37:42.580 in part that the problem
00:37:43.980 is amplified
00:37:44.960 by this work from home
00:37:46.660 post-COVID
00:37:47.400 but that whole thing
00:37:48.940 was pretty frothy
00:37:49.720 to begin with.
00:37:51.080 You have real issues
00:37:53.180 in the corporate credit market.
00:37:55.000 You have companies,
00:37:56.440 you know,
00:37:56.680 think about these companies
00:37:57.840 like WeWork, for example,
00:37:59.600 that basically
00:38:01.480 people shove money at them
00:38:03.960 and they had really,
00:38:06.620 at the end of the day,
00:38:07.340 no viable business model.
00:38:09.900 So it was just an opportunity
00:38:11.840 to find some kind of return
00:38:13.720 somewhere in an environment
00:38:15.580 where, again,
00:38:16.400 because the Fed was pumping
00:38:17.600 all this liquidity
00:38:18.360 and they do that
00:38:20.500 by depressing interest rates,
00:38:22.620 there was nowhere
00:38:23.180 to get any return.
00:38:24.300 If you're trying to save money
00:38:25.300 for retirement,
00:38:26.160 I don't have to tell
00:38:26.780 your audience this,
00:38:28.080 for the last decade,
00:38:29.540 you know,
00:38:29.760 you basically got nothing
00:38:30.980 in the bank.
00:38:32.080 So what are your options?
00:38:33.480 Your options are to kind of
00:38:34.780 take a little more risk
00:38:35.900 than you might otherwise take
00:38:37.600 to try to get some return
00:38:39.400 on your money.
00:38:40.840 And the people who ultimately
00:38:42.720 had to take the most risk
00:38:45.240 are the pensions
00:38:46.400 because the pensions
00:38:47.540 are required
00:38:48.400 to satisfy
00:38:49.900 an annual return target.
00:38:52.500 And those return targets
00:38:53.860 are, you know,
00:38:55.700 in a totally different universe
00:38:57.800 from the reality
00:38:58.560 on the ground.
00:38:59.220 So they've just recently
00:39:00.660 come down
00:39:01.800 to 7.5%, 8% annual returns.
00:39:05.000 Well, I don't need to tell you.
00:39:06.480 If you look across
00:39:07.480 the landscape,
00:39:09.160 where are you getting
00:39:09.820 an 8% return?
00:39:10.760 You're sure as hell
00:39:11.340 not getting it in a bank account.
00:39:12.900 You're not getting it
00:39:13.540 in a T-bill.
00:39:14.240 You're not even getting it
00:39:15.180 in a long-dated treasury bond.
00:39:17.260 So you have to go out,
00:39:18.240 let's say you buy
00:39:18.880 an investment grade bond.
00:39:20.540 Well, you're only getting
00:39:21.560 2.5%, 3%.
00:39:23.100 What if you buy a junk bond?
00:39:25.080 Before the Fed started
00:39:26.080 raising rates,
00:39:26.720 you were getting 4%
00:39:28.320 for investing in a company
00:39:30.960 whose, you know,
00:39:31.900 prospects of ever paying you back
00:39:33.580 were de minimis.
00:39:35.600 So now you have these pensions
00:39:38.240 that had to load up
00:39:39.680 on all of these
00:39:41.160 really high-risk assets
00:39:42.740 in a desperate attempt
00:39:44.320 to meet an 8% return target
00:39:46.900 that, you know,
00:39:48.080 was unmeetable
00:39:49.200 in a 0% risk-free world.
00:39:52.560 And so they are the ones
00:39:54.120 who ultimately
00:39:54.860 are going to be exposed
00:39:56.440 to have bought
00:39:57.400 all of this stuff,
00:39:58.700 whether it's, you know,
00:39:59.840 whether their exposure
00:40:00.900 to commercial real estate
00:40:02.240 that's now going bust,
00:40:03.420 whether it's their exposure
00:40:04.340 to the corporate bonds,
00:40:05.500 those WeWork-type zombie companies
00:40:08.080 going bust,
00:40:09.000 whether it's asset-backed claims
00:40:11.740 to, you know,
00:40:12.620 consumers who are no longer
00:40:14.460 able to pay off
00:40:15.400 their auto loans
00:40:16.600 or the buy-now-pay-later companies.
00:40:19.240 I mean, again,
00:40:20.420 given the speed and magnitude
00:40:22.920 of these interest rate hikes
00:40:24.440 that are now wrecking havoc
00:40:26.340 with the banking system,
00:40:28.000 that's going to play out
00:40:29.440 everywhere in every sector.
00:40:30.820 It's not going to be
00:40:31.380 confined to the banking system.
00:40:32.680 It's going to hit
00:40:33.160 commercial real estate.
00:40:34.020 It's going to hit households
00:40:36.020 in terms of credit card bills
00:40:37.840 and auto loans.
00:40:38.920 It's going to hit municipals.
00:40:40.860 It's going to hit corporate bonds.
00:40:43.060 And all of that,
00:40:44.580 the one party that owns
00:40:46.120 all of those assets
00:40:47.940 are the pensions
00:40:49.680 because they had to buy
00:40:51.440 the riskiest of risk
00:40:52.800 in order to meet
00:40:53.560 these otherworldly return targets.
00:40:57.080 This is one of the things
00:40:58.020 that the crisis in England
00:40:59.720 with the prime minister
00:41:00.640 last year
00:41:01.320 and the Bank of England situation
00:41:02.960 found these pension funds
00:41:04.060 had all kind of hanky derivatives
00:41:05.540 in there to juice
00:41:06.780 their earnings.
00:41:08.260 I want to get back
00:41:09.060 to the debt ceiling
00:41:09.840 because our theory of the case
00:41:11.200 is that it was the massive
00:41:12.360 over-the-top spending
00:41:13.680 when we had aggregate demand
00:41:15.520 back up.
00:41:16.740 It was like the worst
00:41:18.460 of a Greenspan put
00:41:19.600 is what you described
00:41:20.780 that we lived through
00:41:21.740 for 30 years.
00:41:23.020 What about this debt ceiling?
00:41:24.860 How important is this
00:41:25.780 to take a hard line?
00:41:26.620 Biden just,
00:41:27.280 in your face,
00:41:27.800 gave a $6.8 trillion
00:41:29.080 budget last week
00:41:31.020 that would have
00:41:31.440 at least a trillion
00:41:32.240 and a half dollars
00:41:33.060 that the Fed
00:41:34.200 would have to step in.
00:41:35.920 What is your theory
00:41:37.340 of the case right now
00:41:38.220 on the debt ceiling
00:41:38.980 and the negotiations, ma'am?
00:41:41.020 Well, I think you're really right
00:41:42.220 to flag the fiscal policy
00:41:43.680 and the reckless fiscal policy
00:41:45.200 that we saw
00:41:45.840 after the crisis
00:41:47.320 of the COVID
00:41:48.400 had ended.
00:41:49.800 We didn't need
00:41:50.580 the extra trillions
00:41:52.000 that they pumped in
00:41:52.940 in the last two years.
00:41:55.240 And so that is really
00:41:56.880 what forced the Fed's hand
00:41:58.280 to raise rates
00:41:58.860 because inflation
00:41:59.680 got out of control.
00:42:00.720 I mean, it's no surprise
00:42:02.060 if you send money
00:42:03.040 to people's mailboxes,
00:42:04.960 they're going to spend it
00:42:05.840 and you're going to get inflation.
00:42:08.260 So I think it is really important
00:42:10.300 to hold the line.
00:42:12.780 But then again,
00:42:13.560 this is a game of chicken
00:42:14.760 because no one wants
00:42:16.280 to see the government
00:42:18.600 default on the debt.
00:42:21.120 Although we do silently
00:42:23.280 default on the debt
00:42:24.220 by printing the money
00:42:25.140 and paying people back
00:42:26.180 in worthless currency anyway.
00:42:27.680 But that's a story
00:42:29.360 for another day.
00:42:30.220 We're not supposed
00:42:30.660 to talk about that.
00:42:32.560 But, you know,
00:42:33.440 I think it would be great
00:42:36.280 if we could persuade
00:42:37.880 the administration
00:42:38.660 as to how important it is
00:42:40.420 to stop with this reckless spending
00:42:42.040 that's gotten us
00:42:42.900 into this situation
00:42:44.020 in the first place
00:42:45.020 where now, you know,
00:42:46.180 we've got banks
00:42:46.820 teetering on the brink
00:42:47.920 and the policy response
00:42:50.380 to that has been
00:42:51.620 anything but confidence inspiring.
00:42:54.220 So this has the potential
00:42:55.400 to really snowball.
00:42:57.560 And frankly,
00:42:58.740 they're just making
00:42:59.380 the Fed's job harder.
00:43:00.660 We saw this week
00:43:01.480 they actually raised rates
00:43:03.140 another 25 basis points
00:43:04.640 in the face
00:43:05.820 of this bubble bursting
00:43:07.320 and real issues
00:43:09.560 with the banking system.
00:43:10.840 And I think they did so
00:43:12.160 because they want
00:43:13.140 to crush this inflation
00:43:15.500 that was created
00:43:16.380 by the administration's
00:43:17.720 wanton spending.
00:43:19.080 So I agree with you, Steve.
00:43:21.040 I mean, I think it's crucial.
00:43:23.500 And, you know, it's
00:43:24.820 I hope that the Republicans
00:43:26.640 will hold the line
00:43:27.680 and not blink.
00:43:29.640 Stephanie, just hang on.
00:43:30.760 If you hang on one second,
00:43:32.040 we'll just hold you
00:43:32.540 through the break.
00:43:33.180 By the way,
00:43:33.760 you just gave the theory
00:43:34.740 that our own Dave Brat
00:43:36.040 rolls has been
00:43:37.040 the rolling default
00:43:38.640 because it is a default.
00:43:40.320 You're just printing
00:43:40.780 more money to cover it up.
00:43:42.540 Short break.
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00:43:44.680 we've got Dave Brat,
00:43:46.420 all of it talking macro
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00:45:54.280 Spending is a given.
00:45:55.540 There is no evidence
00:45:56.520 and no receipts
00:45:57.440 that the Republicans
00:45:58.380 have ever cared
00:45:59.420 or will care
00:46:00.180 about reducing spending.
00:46:01.720 I hope they do
00:46:02.480 going forward,
00:46:03.260 but there's no evidence.
00:46:04.260 The Democrats,
00:46:05.020 as Boris just said,
00:46:05.940 on spending
00:46:06.360 are left of miles
00:46:07.060 that don't.
00:46:07.940 So that's a given.
00:46:08.760 Spending is going to go up.
00:46:10.000 If you want to get
00:46:10.840 the attention
00:46:11.420 of the American people
00:46:12.680 and of the left
00:46:13.620 and of the Republicans
00:46:14.740 and the Federal Reserve
00:46:16.140 and the printing process
00:46:17.760 that allows them to spend,
00:46:19.600 you don't have to,
00:46:20.160 you can still have a central bank,
00:46:21.140 like Peter said,
00:46:21.680 with a monetary rule
00:46:22.700 following John Taylor
00:46:23.640 and the smartest guys
00:46:24.360 that have ever lived.
00:46:25.400 Right?
00:46:25.540 So this is nothing radical
00:46:27.120 and we survived
00:46:28.220 quite nicely without them,
00:46:29.400 without inflation
00:46:30.180 and lower inflation,
00:46:31.060 by the way,
00:46:31.400 before the Fed.
00:46:32.800 So that's issue number one.
00:46:33.920 Issue number two
00:46:34.400 is the job of the Congress
00:46:35.360 is to write law.
00:46:37.020 And right now,
00:46:37.580 the Federal Reserve
00:46:38.140 is operating under two mandates
00:46:39.800 and they're just making stuff up.
00:46:41.680 They're giving stuff to the rich
00:46:42.760 and they're not giving
00:46:43.540 the same stuff to the poor.
00:46:45.100 It's an insult
00:46:45.960 to our intelligence
00:46:46.700 and saying that,
00:46:47.640 you know,
00:46:47.840 we can do pronoun studies
00:46:49.200 and that might help unemployment.
00:46:51.200 If that's allowed
00:46:52.160 under the law
00:46:53.280 in their mandate,
00:46:54.320 then the law is meaningless
00:46:56.120 and the Congress
00:46:56.920 needs to get on this
00:46:58.180 and they need to rewrite
00:46:59.120 the Fed mandate
00:46:59.980 for something
00:47:01.000 that will actually help
00:47:01.800 the American people.
00:47:03.840 Wow.
00:47:06.340 Okay.
00:47:06.900 Maybe the best 30 seconds
00:47:08.480 ever in the history
00:47:10.000 of the war room.
00:47:10.620 That was Dave Brat
00:47:11.320 a week ago going off.
00:47:12.980 Stephanie,
00:47:13.480 they made a decision yesterday
00:47:14.700 on raising the rates.
00:47:17.780 They're not going after,
00:47:19.180 they're not going to go,
00:47:19.880 they didn't raise it enough
00:47:20.980 to go after inflation.
00:47:22.760 They're going to let the,
00:47:23.320 they're going to let the,
00:47:24.120 the,
00:47:25.160 the common man,
00:47:26.680 the unwashed masses
00:47:27.680 bear the burden
00:47:28.700 of the regret,
00:47:29.580 unfair regressive tax
00:47:30.700 of inflation
00:47:31.220 because they're now panicked
00:47:32.640 that they bring down
00:47:33.720 the banking system.
00:47:34.680 Is that where the Federal Reserve
00:47:35.780 is right now?
00:47:36.420 Is that the jam they're in?
00:47:38.020 Well,
00:47:38.500 honestly,
00:47:39.060 I,
00:47:39.480 I think that the inflation
00:47:41.500 beast is dead.
00:47:44.080 It's just going to take a while
00:47:45.360 for it to show up
00:47:46.160 in the numbers.
00:47:46.620 And by that,
00:47:47.160 I don't mean to say
00:47:47.900 that prices aren't insanely high.
00:47:50.440 I just,
00:47:50.800 inflation is
00:47:51.680 the rate of change
00:47:53.580 in those prices.
00:47:54.460 So I think mercifully,
00:47:56.320 we've probably seen the peak
00:47:58.260 and that prices are going to come down.
00:48:00.680 The bad news is
00:48:01.780 the,
00:48:02.520 the catalyst for those prices
00:48:04.060 coming down
00:48:04.680 is going to be
00:48:05.560 this bubble bursting
00:48:06.560 and the financial fallout
00:48:08.080 that results from that
00:48:09.280 and the economic fallout
00:48:11.000 in terms of
00:48:11.820 higher
00:48:12.460 unemployment
00:48:13.900 via
00:48:14.360 massive corporate layoffs.
00:48:16.820 you know,
00:48:17.920 the companies
00:48:18.380 are going to
00:48:18.980 get walloped
00:48:19.940 in terms of
00:48:20.640 their earnings
00:48:21.280 and the first thing
00:48:22.640 they're going to cut
00:48:23.340 is headcounts.
00:48:24.680 So Main Street's
00:48:25.500 going to pay for this
00:48:26.360 ultimately
00:48:26.920 that way.
00:48:28.620 But I think that
00:48:29.560 Powell's move
00:48:30.580 was really just to prove
00:48:31.880 his Volcker chops
00:48:34.000 more than anything.
00:48:35.800 And also,
00:48:37.100 I think,
00:48:37.640 to
00:48:37.940 not create a sense
00:48:39.820 of panic
00:48:40.280 about the banking crisis,
00:48:41.760 which,
00:48:42.440 frankly,
00:48:42.800 they've done a pretty bad job,
00:48:44.280 you know,
00:48:44.720 watching Yellen
00:48:45.780 testifying on
00:48:47.900 whether they are
00:48:48.720 or are not
00:48:49.380 going to do
00:48:49.820 a blanket deposit coverage
00:48:51.600 is anything
00:48:52.840 but confidence-inspiring.
00:48:54.740 So their efforts
00:48:56.000 to try to
00:48:56.600 calm the waters
00:48:57.680 have actually
00:48:58.360 done exactly
00:48:59.660 the opposite.
00:49:00.720 So I think
00:49:01.240 Powell was kind of
00:49:02.320 forced to raise
00:49:03.160 because if he didn't,
00:49:04.680 everyone would have said,
00:49:05.560 holy crap,
00:49:06.400 you know,
00:49:06.680 what do they see?
00:49:07.580 They know this is really
00:49:08.700 we're teetering
00:49:10.020 on the knife edge.
00:49:11.160 But so much of this
00:49:12.340 can be cured
00:49:12.980 with quality fiscal policy.
00:49:15.280 I mean,
00:49:15.480 I've kind of given up
00:49:16.460 on the Fed.
00:49:17.040 They get everything wrong.
00:49:18.380 They're like
00:49:18.740 monetary magoos.
00:49:20.380 You know,
00:49:20.600 they inflate bubbles
00:49:22.300 that are invisible
00:49:23.460 only to them
00:49:24.440 and then they burst them
00:49:25.340 and they're shocked
00:49:25.980 when all the fallout
00:49:26.860 rains down
00:49:27.460 on the economy
00:49:28.220 only to then
00:49:29.800 inflate a new bubble.
00:49:31.440 But on the fiscal front,
00:49:33.040 I mean,
00:49:33.300 I will say
00:49:33.880 it's so easy.
00:49:35.360 Look at what
00:49:36.340 pro-growth policy
00:49:37.980 did in four years
00:49:39.580 under the Trump administration.
00:49:41.380 I mean,
00:49:41.540 we were headed
00:49:42.400 into recession.
00:49:43.420 I was forecasting
00:49:44.640 a recession
00:49:45.320 in 2016
00:49:46.800 and that turned around,
00:49:48.980 you know,
00:49:50.020 on a dime
00:49:50.960 with pro-growth
00:49:52.380 fiscal policy,
00:49:53.680 tax cuts
00:49:54.120 and the deregulation,
00:49:55.780 which is so crucial.
00:49:57.440 So,
00:49:57.880 I mean,
00:49:58.580 if we could get
00:49:59.380 some adults
00:50:00.340 in the room,
00:50:01.020 we might actually
00:50:01.800 be able to avert
00:50:02.800 some of the horrible stuff
00:50:04.500 that I'm talking about.
00:50:05.560 But right now,
00:50:06.700 it does not look good.
00:50:08.220 Stephanie,
00:50:10.660 how do people,
00:50:11.340 you're new to the audience,
00:50:12.680 obviously the result,
00:50:13.960 what we're hearing already
00:50:14.860 in the chat rooms,
00:50:15.720 you're on fire.
00:50:16.460 How do people get to you,
00:50:17.440 your writings,
00:50:18.540 social media,
00:50:19.280 all of it?
00:50:20.420 Thanks.
00:50:21.120 Well,
00:50:21.600 I have a firm
00:50:22.440 called Macromavens
00:50:23.540 and you can find me,
00:50:24.660 you know,
00:50:25.280 www.macromavens.com.
00:50:28.040 I am on Twitter,
00:50:29.320 although I don't post that much
00:50:31.660 because Twitter is a cesspool,
00:50:33.280 but that's
00:50:34.360 at
00:50:34.680 spomboy,
00:50:36.180 P-O-M-B-O-Y
00:50:37.280 spomboy.
00:50:38.900 So you can follow me there
00:50:39.980 and hopefully
00:50:41.620 I'll be invited back
00:50:42.640 so we can
00:50:43.260 continue this conversation.
00:50:46.360 There's no doubt
00:50:47.160 about the audience
00:50:47.780 absolutely loves it.
00:50:47.900 How about pitching
00:50:47.920 in the war room?
00:50:50.240 No,
00:50:50.720 no pitching.
00:50:51.500 Dave Brad was pitching her
00:50:52.540 in between breaks.
00:50:54.460 Stephanie,
00:50:54.860 thank you so much.
00:50:55.920 Honored to have you on here.
00:50:57.580 My honor.
00:50:58.260 Thank you.
00:50:58.800 Thank you.
00:50:59.260 Stephanie,
00:51:00.300 Stephanie Pomboy,
00:51:01.320 let's make sure
00:51:01.740 we pile into her site
00:51:02.740 right now.
00:51:03.540 Everybody go over,
00:51:04.180 check it out.
00:51:04.940 Brat,
00:51:06.400 you,
00:51:07.260 by the way,
00:51:07.700 and I'm not kidding,
00:51:08.980 I think it was the best
00:51:09.640 30 or 40 second hit
00:51:10.860 we've ever had
00:51:11.960 as you summed it up.
00:51:13.320 Given where Stephanie Pomboy,
00:51:15.580 who's the macro maven,
00:51:16.880 tells us where we are,
00:51:18.720 we're going to have
00:51:19.520 Russ vote on tonight
00:51:20.420 at 6.
00:51:21.780 Give me your sense
00:51:23.040 of where we are
00:51:23.680 and stop.
00:51:24.160 The spending's
00:51:24.940 the railhead of it,
00:51:25.760 brother.
00:51:26.000 Give me two minutes
00:51:26.660 on that.
00:51:27.260 Do you think we,
00:51:28.680 are the Republicans
00:51:29.540 going to put up a fight
00:51:30.380 or are they just
00:51:30.800 going to roll over?
00:51:31.520 Yeah,
00:51:33.840 I think they're
00:51:34.660 going to roll over
00:51:35.680 and if you'll notice,
00:51:36.780 Pomboy hit out of the park
00:51:38.120 and everything
00:51:39.040 she mentioned,
00:51:40.220 everything on the
00:51:40.860 nightly news
00:51:41.440 all has to do
00:51:42.420 with the financialization
00:51:43.980 of our economy
00:51:45.960 and it never
00:51:46.880 has to do
00:51:47.680 with the real economy.
00:51:49.300 All the,
00:51:49.700 all the,
00:51:50.340 all the help
00:51:51.920 comes in
00:51:52.580 to save banking
00:51:53.880 from the bubbles
00:51:55.560 that Pomboy mentioned
00:51:56.700 going way back
00:51:57.660 to the TETCOM
00:51:58.940 and then the 08
00:51:59.940 and then now
00:52:00.700 and then they keep
00:52:01.320 printing money
00:52:01.920 and then she said,
00:52:03.200 you know,
00:52:03.400 they're raising the rate
00:52:04.460 a little bit
00:52:04.980 to firm up their chops
00:52:06.080 but they also added
00:52:07.100 1.5 trillion
00:52:08.200 to liquidity
00:52:08.860 last week,
00:52:10.180 you know,
00:52:10.440 short-term loans
00:52:11.300 and they'll,
00:52:12.240 you know,
00:52:12.500 they'll say,
00:52:12.920 well,
00:52:12.980 that's not permanent
00:52:14.000 but they never
00:52:15.120 stopped doing it,
00:52:16.280 right?
00:52:16.440 so other markets
00:52:17.380 would be crashing
00:52:18.440 and so there's
00:52:20.480 no attention
00:52:21.080 to the real economy,
00:52:22.500 that's what we focus on
00:52:23.580 and this week
00:52:25.280 we saw a real blow.
00:52:27.620 I have one chart,
00:52:28.600 I kind of want to,
00:52:29.320 if they got it
00:52:30.140 in Denver,
00:52:31.460 when Janet Yellen
00:52:33.060 came out at Treasury.
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