00:00:27.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:32.000Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:36.000If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:42.000War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:46.000In Washington right now, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy says that he will have the votes to pass the GOP debt limit later this week, his bill in the House.
00:01:01.000The plan would increase the debt ceiling by one and a half trillion dollars, and it aims to cut four and a half trillion dollars in spending over the next decade.
00:01:08.000For a look at what's ahead, we want to bring in Judd Gregg, who served as both governor and senator of New Hampshire.
00:01:14.000Also, Donna Edwards, who's a former congresswoman serving Maryland's fourth district.
00:01:28.000I mean, I expect, you know, take a look at that window between the July 4th recess and the August recess.
00:01:35.000And that's when I expect the heavy lifting is going to happen.
00:01:39.000Kevin McCarthy, the speaker, is not serious with this proposal that he's put out because he knows that President Biden is not going to agree to a set of spending cuts to his major priorities of the first term of his administration.
00:04:22.000And then let's get into where we actually stand in this process, because this week and next week are going to be quite a dogfight.
00:04:28.000Let me zoom in on that specific point about the merits of it.
00:04:31.000So my plan to get to balance in 10 years was 10 trillion dollars in savings over 10 years.
00:04:38.000It wasn't 10 trillion dollars in the first year.
00:04:41.000And so what this plan, the reason I support it is because if you're thinking about how in divided government, where you pick the fight, you pick it on the woke and weaponized bureaucracy.
00:04:51.000And of my plan, we had three trillion dollars in discretionary savings.
00:04:59.000This goes, it puts hard caps in law every year and forces the fight this year, has a four and a half trillion total in cuts and savings.
00:05:08.000A trillion of it in the first year, things like cuts, the bureaucracy, the Inflation Reduction Act, Climate Green New Deal, student loan bailout, work requirements on food stamps and Medicaid, which is I think is the best place to go to start on mandatory spending.
00:05:25.000So that's I think setting the terms for going on offense.
00:05:30.000And I think the clips you're showing is the cartel and the regime media getting their handle over what they didn't expect to happen.
00:05:37.000They thought that McCarthy would never govern from the right and put on the floor as the first opening salvo a package that would get people like me to support it.
00:05:48.000And he's got the moderates on board because you have other people out there like Judd Gregg.
00:05:54.000And I did have to laugh just because of the just clear ridiculousness of talking about commissions and nonsense when the real fight is the bureaucracy.
00:06:03.000And for the first time in a generation, we have a chance to go after that with the leverage point of the debt limit.
00:06:11.000Let's just go back through that. I want to make sure you walk everybody through so that they're aware of this.
00:06:15.000Let's talk about the down because everything we talked about is no increase in the debt ceiling at all.
00:06:19.000But the types of cuts you need in year one that if you do it appropriately, you don't even bump up to the debt ceiling.
00:06:26.000You can do your prioritization of payments schedule and we get home free.
00:06:31.000It's tough. It's got to be managed. Treasury is going to, you know, whine about it constantly, but it's doable.
00:06:38.000And that's what we have to do in a bankruptcy. And this is essentially what we've got.
00:06:42.000Walk through the elements of McCarthy's plan block by block so people can actually understand where these cuts are coming from.
00:06:49.000Sure. First and foremost is the three and a half trillion dollars in cuts to discretionary spending,
00:06:55.000which is the normal government spending that is funding the agencies, the woke and the weaponized bureaucracy.
00:07:01.000That's only one hundred and thirty billion, one hundred fifty billion in the first year, depending on where defense lands.
00:07:06.000It's about one hundred fifty billion dollars. But over ten years, that's three and a half trillion.
00:07:11.000That, in my mind, is the biggest fight. That is what I'm most excited about.
00:07:15.000But you also have about two hundred seventy one billion dollars in repeal to the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:07:21.000You get sizable amounts by eliminating the student loan bailout, which is the amounts to about seventy five basis points that the Fed would otherwise have to raise rates.
00:07:30.000You have repealing all the unobligated covid money.
00:07:34.000You have the repeal of the IRS expansion for the agents to go into middle class Americans and people with with companies under their own name.
00:07:44.000You have it's very hard to come up with a package that would be this good.
00:07:51.000There is a lot that we need to do to get our fiscal house in order, including going after the non Social Security, Medicare mandatory programs.
00:08:00.000But where do we want to start the debate and have Biden in a position where he can't get out of the canyon without doing what we need to do?
00:08:10.000I believe this gets that job done. And let me just speak a little bit to the notion of do you have to increase it at all?
00:08:17.000I from a standpoint of preventing default. No, you do not. OK, you have to.
00:08:23.000Biden could ensure with the revenues coming in that he could pay interest and trade in principle on the debt.
00:08:30.000But beyond that, it does get lumpy as to do you have enough on a month by month to be able to deal with defense, Social Security, Medicare veterans.
00:08:39.000And so that is that's the reason why you use the leverage points to be able to get your wins across.
00:08:48.000The lumpiness is why you need some version of a debt limit.
00:08:52.000But that doesn't mean that the initial strategy we've had from day one, which is you're not getting a debt limit because we have enough to ensure the full faith and credit of the United States.
00:09:02.000You are not getting that unless you go forward and pass our cuts.
00:09:07.000So that is why I believe this this merits the support of House Republicans.
00:09:11.000And I think they'll get that later this week. OK, let me just go back to that.
00:09:17.000This is this gets to be the shift in nomenclature.
00:09:19.000We warned people about in Janet Yellen when she keeps saying you have to pay your bills, you have to pay your bills.
00:09:24.000Paying, keeping the full faith and credit of the U.S. government and paying off the securities, the interest in the face amount are very different than paying contractors that in any bankruptcy you got to stretch.
00:09:34.000So I want to go back just to the lumpiness.
00:09:36.000Has Treasury given you their best case?
00:09:41.000I understand it may not be accurate, totally accurate, right, because money is going to come in on tax, you know, people paying their taxes, etc.
00:09:47.000But has Treasury come forward and presented in this process anything that you can actually look at and say, OK, let's look at the lumpiness.
00:09:56.000And if it is lumpy, then maybe you do. Maybe there is an argument for giving a slight increase.
00:10:00.000But have they come forward and shown any mathematical model, any financial model to McCarthy's people or yourself or any of the people working on this that you can actually ascertain what their best thinking is of the lumpiness of how cash comes in?
00:10:13.000No. And that's going to be something that we need to continue to call on them for.
00:10:18.000I mean, what we have is historical models and a sense of how this has worked on a month by month basis throughout the year.
00:10:27.000And that's in some of the third party groups out there that work on this is their number one issue.
00:10:32.000And so that's where that's the debate that we need to have.
00:10:36.000And I believe that Republicans, once they've passed this, they are now in the ability to say, we're going to go over.
00:10:42.000We're going to go over. If the X date, you haven't given us the finals, put forth a plan.
00:10:48.000You haven't chosen to negotiate. And they have that ability to do that and have that long extended debate and have the country be on their side because they have put forward a plan to deal with our fiscal house and get it in order.
00:11:02.000Let me go back to two things. So people just so people I understand people understand it.
00:11:08.000Matt Gates has been talking about the work requirements. You've been talking about the work requirements.
00:11:12.000Matt has said that that's another trillion dollars to fully implement another trillion dollars over the 10 years.
00:11:18.000But big cuts in the first two years. What's your is that included in the three and a half or four and a half trillion?
00:11:27.000Is that fully baked in all the work requirement cuts? Because, remember, if people don't meet the work requirements, the obligation goes away.
00:11:34.000So is that is that already baked in the four and a half train or that be something on top of?
00:11:39.000There is a work requirement savings in that four and a half trillion.
00:11:43.000I think it's about one hundred and thirty billion dollars.
00:11:46.000The trillion dollars to get to that level of savings, you have to really begin to reform Medicaid, as I've proposed,
00:11:54.000and get people who are adults without children off of the Medicaid program.
00:12:00.000So to get to those larger numbers, you've got to tackle Medicaid, which our budget does.
00:12:05.000And that's why the president has attacked me personally about it.
00:12:08.000And we're happy to have that debate. But this this package does include those work requirements, which is a very, very important debate to have.
00:12:16.000And I think it's one of the things that I know Matt pushed for in this package.
00:12:22.000And I'm glad he did, because we need to have that debate about how to get people off of the sidelines and off of the social safety net.
00:12:29.000Let me ask you about that. Is Medicaid even in his hundred thirty billion?
00:12:35.000He doesn't have the whole train, but in his hundred thirty billion.
00:12:38.000Do you have to have legislative changes to Medicaid to get that?
00:12:41.000Or can you do that in this budgeting and then appropriations process?
00:12:46.000Or is it like Medicare and we understand Medicare and Social Security off the table?
00:12:59.000So Medicaid is part of this package and part of this work requirement.
00:13:04.000That's a statutory law that comes in and overrides the current auto program of Medicaid, which works like Medicare.
00:13:12.000But also it was going to need to be something that we take a look at throughout the next few years for purposes of getting the massive amount of spending that that program has and get it under control.
00:13:29.000And let me just go back to one thing you said, Steve, about the notion of default.
00:13:33.000You're absolutely right that the full faith and credit of paying interest in principle is not the same as timely payment of every one of Tony Fauci's grants to the Wuhan Institute.
00:13:44.000And that's the debate they're going to want to have.
00:13:46.000They're going to want to argue about the meaning of default.
00:13:49.000And we've just got to call them on it and just say you're playing word games.
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00:17:37.000We talk everything about the debt ceiling, how we got here, what the fights have been before, and kind of talk about a path going forward.
00:17:43.000Russ Vogt is our guest, one of the leaders of this movement to get to a balanced budget and to save not just the Republic, but the dollar.
00:17:51.000Russ, are these, because you've been, the reason people love you and you come on here, by the way, we got Jeff Clark on in the second hour,
00:18:01.000and he was amazing on the show on Saturday talking about the EPA and the electric vehicle and all this madness that's going on.
00:18:08.000Your group just does such a great job of being very straightforward with people.
00:18:13.000Is this cuts, real cuts, or are we just in the game of cutting the rate of spending?
00:18:19.000I see we're going to go back to 2022 numbers, but that was increases over past years.
00:18:25.000It's one of the arguments against them.
00:18:27.000And then we're talking about slower growth rates.
00:18:29.000So, in your mind, are we getting to real cuts here in the Leviathan's budget, sir?
00:18:52.000That amounts to 30% cuts to the Department of Education, the Department of CRT.
00:18:58.000That amounts to 30% cuts to the NIH, which is funding Tony Fauci's gain-of-function research, CDC, that promulgated the pandemic that we know and bled for as a nation.
00:19:10.00050% cuts to foreign aid, basically just leaving real diplomacy in place that you don't have Bob Dylan statutes in Mozambique or funding gay activists in Senegal, LGBT activists in Senegal.
00:19:22.000Over and over, you have examples of woken, weaponized government that we get rid of if we have a fight this year.
00:19:29.000That's $150 billion in the standpoint of trillions of dollars.
00:19:35.000But that's what looks like 30% cuts to these agencies that will deal a mortal blow to the bureaucracy.
00:19:43.000And then you cap that and have only a slight growth that allows you to be able to keep funding defense or have closer to flat levels of funding for defense.
00:19:53.000You grow that for 10 years, and you get $3.5 trillion of savings.
00:19:58.000Now, is that savings on the basis of how Washington, D.C. shows numbers?
00:20:05.000But the way that Washington, D.C. also shows numbers is partly how we know we have trillion dollars and upwards of $2 trillion in deficits.
00:20:12.000And so we work within the current system.
00:20:15.000Part of it is totally screwed up based on anyone who is coming from a business or a normal field of accounting anywhere else.
00:20:23.000But we present to you the realness of those cuts and the best way to account for them.
00:20:30.000And we have $4.5 trillion of savings in this, I believe.
00:20:39.000You're giving up a year, but what are you getting for in the standpoint of leverage when Biden needs this to pass?
00:20:49.000And if you're on the other side, and I love coming in here and getting skeptics because we need more skeptics in this country.
00:20:55.000The reason why I think you put forward something now is because if you hold back constantly and then the markets spook, you're only going to have two or three people that hold the line.
00:21:06.000You've got to be able to put forward this is what we are for.
00:21:09.000And if that is what you're for is actually what's needed to get the country in the right direction, I believe it is.
00:21:16.000Now you've got the moral high ground to be able to fight over the next several months with with Biden.
00:21:22.000And this will be a running fight all the way through 2024, the way it's structured.
00:21:28.000Russ, where do people can they go to your site and actually get the breakdown in your language of exactly what we're talking about?
00:21:34.000Yeah, absolutely. They go to America renewing dot com.
00:21:39.000We have a fact sheet on the package and they get my statements and they can, of course, get me at all the social media channels at at Russ vote.
00:21:50.000And particularly getter and on Twitter, you're up all the time.
00:21:54.000I know that I'm with the the hardcore war room.
00:21:57.000We're still not give a penny and do Russ votes, prioritization of payments and massive cuts.
00:22:02.000But I'd like at least I like the direction of we're taking a stand and telling the moderates it can't be any commissions that we've got to stop all the nonsense.
00:22:10.000I just think that you given the million and a half or next May, whatever comes first, given the collapse of the economy, it's going to be up on us again.
00:22:19.000If you prove this, we're going to be back at this right after the appropriations process.
00:22:23.000So the good news is we put this front and center.
00:22:26.000We also have to make sure they can't run, you know, start to blame.
00:22:30.000Oh, the economy is slowing down because of this. The economy is not slowing down because of this.
00:22:33.000One of the reasons it's so tough to get to a deal here is because the economy is imploding.
00:22:37.000They just put 11 banks. Moody's just downgraded 11 banks and put them on watch regional banks because of the Biden disaster.
00:22:45.000So it's a disaster across the board. Russ, one more time.
00:22:48.000Where do they go? Where do they go to find out your breakdown of this McCarthy plan?
00:22:52.000America renewing dot com is our website and we'll do everything we can to highlight that breakdown on the site so they people can find it.
00:23:04.000Russ, fantastic. Last question. When do you think the voting will start?
00:23:07.000Do you think the end of this week, early next week?
00:23:09.000Wednesday or Thursday. It'll happen this week, assuming he has the votes.
00:23:13.000And, you know, some folks are still coming home, but it's probably Thursday, but possibly Wednesday.
00:23:19.000Russ Vogt, thank you. Honored to have you on here.
00:24:11.000That's our job is to make sure that we're, we not just understand it, but take the hardest line possible.
00:24:18.000Frank, so there's a very special event over the weekend.
00:24:21.000There's really the start of a process to inform our fellow citizens, not just MAGA, but our fellow citizens about, you know, we're like in 1938 or 37 or 38, back in the 20th century.
00:24:34.000And it was only Churchill was out there then.
00:24:37.000We have a whole team of people out there, some of the greatest voices and thinkers in our movement.
00:24:41.000We had World War III the early years by the American Freedom Alliance.
00:24:46.000Frank, you were one of the keynote speakers.
00:24:48.000Give us your assessment, particularly the fact that this is just firing off the football.
00:24:52.000Every day this week, we're going to be taking parts of the conference and actually laying them out to people so they can come force multipliers.
00:26:09.000A lot of people bought the sneak previews, in fact, of the book, which, of course, as you know, Steve, as you have given us the foreword as well as the imprimatur of the War Room, it is the book that explains the indictment that can help us take down the Chinese Communist Party.
00:26:29.000And I'm with you on trying to do it without firing a shot.
00:26:32.000We did it once before with the last totalitarian communist regime that sought the destruction of this country, the Soviet Union, thanks to Ronald Reagan.
00:26:41.000And the strategy we are pursuing here, promoted by the counterpart to the Committee on the Present Danger of Reagan's years, is the Committee on the Present Danger China's strategy of using delegitimization and the actions of both indicting in the court of public opinion, at a minimum, this transnational criminal organization,
00:27:06.280and better yet, taking a series of 20 identified actionable steps that are needed, starting with ending the, well, travesty of having the elite capture of America's, you know, top leaders across our country's, you know, business, finance, academic, media, culture, and, of course, political.
00:27:36.280And, Steve, you were on your game as well, I want to say.
00:30:32.740Hey, a big part of it was disrespecting MAGA, disrespecting the Trump movement, disrespecting the deplorables, America First, MAGA, all of it by kicking MyPillow out.
00:31:13.200Also, I really want to thank, we're going to figure out how to do something special for everybody who came, although we're in posse, that came to L.A. this weekend.
00:31:21.060So hopefully we'll be getting out to California sometime, maybe in June.
00:32:19.300And I really want to thank the Warren Posse that showed up.
00:32:21.620The feedback I got from people was just incredible.
00:32:24.420So, Karen, the key is just because it's a conference, now we're really going to start.
00:32:28.860We're going to start pushing out the content.
00:32:30.240We're going to start pushing out the speaker.
00:32:31.480Why don't you go through what your assessment is of the opening weekend of this process of informing the folks in the United States.
00:32:39.500The Chinese Communist Party has already started coming to war with us in World War III.
00:32:43.640And quite frankly, this will be a global conflict.
00:32:45.780And unless we start getting very focused right now, both foreign and domestic, that this is a conflict we actually could lose, ma'am.
00:32:54.940I have to say it was an absolutely astounding weekend.
00:32:58.380And it would have been an astounding weekend wherever we had held it.
00:33:02.320The fact that it was in Los Angeles just made it extra, I don't know, poignant in a way, delicious in another way.
00:33:11.060To be, you know, we all living here, we sort of feel we're behind enemy lines.
00:33:15.440And for so many of us, we had well over 200 people, close to 300 people converging on Los Angeles for this purpose to learn about or to learn more about World War III, as you had framed it, the early years.
00:33:30.500And I heard Frank say, and he had said this at the event, maybe it's the only years.
00:33:36.700We have to make sure that we recognize that we have, in fact, been at war, or at least they have been at war with us.
00:33:46.840And the issue is too many of us have not even been aware that we're already losing a fight, or even worse, that the elite capture by the CCP of the United States governance, many of our industries and so on, they've already been captured and already been playing for the other side.
00:34:08.620So the point of the conference was to highlight the threat of this, the direness of this threat, the urgency of acting, of making sure that not only the people in the room, but as you had noted, the American people generally, and also this is global, this isn't American War III, this is World War III, and they've been waiting for some time.
00:34:33.160Many of the points that were made, yes, it's China, wars don't look the way they always had, and we need to be very cognizant of that.
00:34:43.820The very notion of unrestricted warfare is key.
00:34:47.180When you've already lost and you haven't even been aware that you're fighting, that's one of the aspects of unrestricted warfare.
00:34:55.900To address that, we had General Robert Spaulding, who wrote Stealth War, which is a great description going into more detail and more accessible of the two Chinese colonels, I believe, who wrote the book Unrestricted Warfare, and that includes absolutely everything.
00:35:13.880But the entire range of speakers that we had were absolutely the A-team on national security, on the economy, we added Ed Dowd, on AI, we had Joe Allen, we had Rima Lebo on health security.
00:35:33.700So, we touched on whatever you can do in two days, we really packed an unbelievable amount of information in there, and we gave our speakers generally about half an hour to really develop their view, their vision, their thoughts about the threats that we've been facing, starting with Frank Gaffney, who you just had on, which was fabulous.
00:35:58.580So, here's what we're going to do. We're going to get clips. All week, we're going to put clips out and have the actual speakers on. We're going to develop this and then push it on social media.
00:36:09.020The first thing is to make sure all the war room posse is fully up to speed on this. Once we have that, then the concentric ring goes out to the rest of the conservatives and Republicans and then to your neighbors and your friends, and they will be, I think, quite absorbed by this.
00:36:22.020So, this is going to be a massive effort over the summer every day because there's so many different aspects of this. Everything from fentanyl coming across, you know, John Mills has got a plan to interdict the fentanyl traffic down with the Mexican cartels.
00:36:35.500People have ways to go economic warfare and defeat this and clean out Wall Street. There's other people talking about the woke and weaponized administrative state that's been infiltrated. It's the universities. It's all of us.
00:36:47.440So, this is a multi-front, multi-dimensional, and I tell people the three things. To me, it's about the scale of it.
00:36:54.380It's a global conflict from Brazil to the Caribbean. Number two is the urgency of it. We're already in the first couple of years, so they've declared war on us.
00:37:02.280And the other is the uniqueness of it in that never before has the United States been faced with a conflict where not an insignificant part of our elites, they call it elite capture.
00:37:14.180I almost think it's elite merger, that our elites and our leading institutions are essentially in partnership or nothing less than a fifth column working with the enemy.
00:37:24.300Absolutely. That's the scale and the complexity of this, and that's why I was so proud of the – so how can people – where do they go right now to find out more?
00:37:31.160We had the great one sheet, but I know we're getting clips out. We're going to have – in fact, Brian Kennedy is going to join us in the afternoon show.
00:37:39.740How do we – where do we go right now? Where do people go right now to get more information?
00:37:44.500Go to the American Freedom – well, not that – AmericanFreedomAlliance.org, and we'll be putting our videos up on Rumble.
00:37:52.820I'll be posting things on Getter. The clips will be coming up shortly, but we also put up the entire content, again, on Rumble.
00:38:02.820The range of speakers was astounding. We'll be making, of course, more clips that have greater punch rather than the entire thing.
00:38:13.520All of it will be up there on our Rumble channel, American Freedom Alliance.
00:38:19.020And, yeah, you know, the urgency – that's the panel that Frank Gaffney led at the very end.
00:38:24.620You see Brian Kennedy, General Spaulding, Trevor Loudon, and Dave Walsh talking – this was the concluding panel talking about what do we do now, which I think is, you know, key to all of this.
00:38:37.620And I love that we're going to be releasing this over the summer, over a longer period, because when you think about two days to cover World War III, it's –
00:38:49.200We did a tremendous job, I have to say, for two days, and it's great for that to be just the beginning.
00:38:57.900It's like an introductory chapter to a big, very serious book, but we're going to get into all of it.
00:39:04.080By the way, I just want to make an aside for I bring Derek Harvey in.
00:39:06.840When I did Q&A, and I did about an hour of Q&A, they had a little technical problem, but I did Q&A, which I think people will hear.
00:39:12.380I want to make sure people understand this.
00:39:13.700Somebody asked about Robert F. Kennedy and, you know, the great speech at Hillsdown, his opening speech, and what did I think about his prospects?
00:39:20.640And I said, look, I'm a Carrie Lake person, but if Carrie Lake is, you know, becomes governor, as she should, if this court case or if not, she runs for the Senate, if she's not available to be Trump's VP, that Bobby Kennedy would be, I think, be an excellent choice for President Trump to consider.
00:39:36.180I think that that, I think people, and this was a hardcore, this was a very hardcore MAGA war room posse crowd.
00:39:44.940I think that that is a signal to the political elites in this country that something very different is going on, and that was quite extraordinary.
00:40:15.900Derek, breaking news, and I know we've got things to go through with you.
00:40:19.740Remember, Derek was at the, he was, first off, he was over there as the senior guy for Devin Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee,
00:40:27.160and then he was in the White House on the National Security Council for President Trump,
00:40:31.040and as one of the most revered individuals in the U.S. Army,
00:40:36.320and particularly the work he did in Iraq to kind of save us there.
00:40:40.260Derek, it's just announced Susan Rice is stepping down from the White House just a couple days before Biden announces his candidacy.
00:40:49.640Give us your assessment of what's not just Susan Rice, the person, but what she represents as far as the administrative state in the deep state, sir.
00:40:58.600Well, I think Susan Rice, you know, I've been looking at this and trying to figure out who's been really one of the key consigliaries
00:41:07.380for everything that is being orchestrated from the Biden White House.
00:41:11.220And, you know, I think that she's kept a very low profile for the last two and a half years,
00:41:17.500but she's been absolutely critical to shaping and pushing the Biden agenda, whether it's across the economic domain,
00:41:25.220they pushed a partner with China on electric vehicles and shifting and dramatically changing our economic basis
00:41:34.520and the capitalist structure in our country and the overreach on the regulation.
00:41:38.720Now, why is she leaving now? I don't I don't know.
00:41:42.440There have been a number of things that have dropped.
00:41:44.960And I I just wonder, I'm speculating right now,
00:41:47.740is there something that might be about to drop in the news about her ties to something that our congressional investigators are digging into
00:41:57.240that goes back to her role during some of the shenanigans in the in the Obama administration or working with the Biden team?
00:42:08.600She's been absolutely critical and she's so closely tied with the Obama team and it's been involved in,
00:42:14.900you know, a number of foreign policy roles in the past, too.
00:42:19.200So I don't know what's going on, but I know, Derek, when people what people say that Biden is really the third term
00:42:29.020and the more radical term of of Obama, what they're talking about is Susan Rice.
00:42:34.840I mean, Susan Rice is she's like Eric Holder.
00:42:38.060Eric Holder and Susan Rice were the two senior advisors to to President Obama.
00:42:48.860And she was both international affairs, national security.
00:42:52.460And now she's had her hands and she's had her hands in everything.
00:42:56.820She's about as she is about she's the poster girl for the administrative slash deep state.
00:46:42.920I understand you want to go over and, you know, be able to say, hey, burnish my credentials by, you know, going over and cutting trade deals or talking about deals for Florida.
00:46:55.040But it's just a bad look, particularly given where everybody is right now in this primary and what's going on.
00:52:35.780Tell you what, let us take a break because I want to come back.
00:52:38.180I want to talk about who's under whose purview, because this has to be investigated already.
00:52:43.820Already, Hunter Biden's lawyers, Abby Lowell, are all over one of Peter Navarro's assistants for putting up some material that's broken over the weekend.
00:52:57.240They're trying to bring ethics charges against her.
00:53:00.380It's where the investigative center of gravity exists.
00:53:04.060Colonel Derek Harvey, formerly of the House Intel Committee and the National Security Council under President Trump, join us after a short commercial break.
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