Bannon's War Room - April 26, 2023


Episode 2688: Hurdling Towards Market Failure


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

180.25076

Word Count

9,977

Sentence Count

33

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

24


Summary

On the eve of the first day of the new year, a report from First Republic reminds us that the banking crisis continues, and intensifies, and that it is not transitory, it is systemic. And that the problem is not just in the banking sector itself, but also in the small and regional banks, which are the lifeblood of the economy and the backbone of the financial system.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:11.040 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:17.640 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:21.400 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:24.980 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:32.800 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:40.720 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:00:47.900 it's tuesday 25th of april on the year of alert 2023 on the morning show because we were so jammed
00:00:56.960 wall-to-wall for all of our guys that are the four-hour uh crowd um i didn't get a chance to
00:01:03.100 talk about the cover of the wall street journal the lead story i talked about the cover the new
00:01:06.800 york times lead story about tucker the lead story of course the wall street journal being owned uh by
00:01:12.160 the murdoch kind of buried that story slightly but their lead story is pretty important 100 billion
00:01:17.940 oops 100 billion dollars in assets in uh deposits excuse me deposits uh out of republic bank first
00:01:27.420 republic bank remember first republic is known as having a really premier asset management group
00:01:33.600 steve cortez i got two things to talk about in the economy that you've kind of called number one
00:01:38.180 and we want to make sure everybody understands this the smaller banks the regional banks are
00:01:42.400 under full assault and you've got a credit contraction going on right now cortez talk to me
00:01:48.320 this problem is a massive problem in the financial crisis we face right and it portends nothing
00:01:56.580 more portends the lost decade in front of us than what's happening on credit and what's happening
00:02:04.160 these smaller banks steve cortez your thoughts and analysis sir steve sadly you're exactly spot on and
00:02:10.600 to borrow a phrase from the worst secretary of the treasury in all of history janet yellen this is not
00:02:16.100 transitory in other words these are systemic problems that are not plaguing the regional banks
00:02:21.700 and today is the latest data point in that regard from first republic by the way this is terrible news for
00:02:27.840 the corporate media which of course on the day that joe biden has the gall to say that he deserves
00:02:32.640 another term as president on that very day we get this report out from first republic more evidence
00:02:38.940 that this banking crisis continues and in fact intensifies and that a lot of it by the way
00:02:44.760 emanates out of where out of the san francisco bay area and out of silicon valley as a business sector
00:02:50.840 specifically the biggest supporters perhaps in total of the democratic party and certainly of the
00:02:56.160 biden regime you know you mentioned the wall street journal reporting if we can pull up chart one
00:02:59.680 i'd like to go to some of the report reporting from reuters on this today and just quote a bit
00:03:03.940 from reuters reporting on first republic they note that this is what's going to happen going forward
00:03:08.520 they're going to shrink the balance sheet cut expenses cut executive pay and lay off one quarter
00:03:15.640 of the workforce so that is the news out of first republic and again this is not obviously first
00:03:21.860 republic specific we had a similar tale out of out of silicon valley bank before it was rescued by the
00:03:27.500 american taxpayers out of signature bank before it was rescued by the american taxpayers we also had
00:03:32.720 over the weekend moody's cut essentially the entire sector meaning every regional bank every significant
00:03:38.760 regional bank in america had its credit downgraded now here's the ramification far beyond just what's
00:03:45.200 happening in these banks or just what's happening to the people who own stock in these banks the
00:03:49.120 unfortunate people by the way speaking of the stock how did it react for first republic well it opened up
00:03:53.100 down 20 percent by lunchtime it was down 30 percent over the last year steve it's down 92 percent okay
00:04:00.420 that that much value destruction because of what joe biden has done but let's talk about the ramifications
00:04:05.620 outside of the banking sector itself steve the the small and regional banks out there they are the
00:04:12.260 lifeblood for main street for small business in this country small operations can't go and get a loan
00:04:17.660 from jp morgan or goldman sachs they simply can't okay those giant multinational mega banks simply don't
00:04:24.020 care about medium and smaller size firms in the united states so the financial uh fuel for main street
00:04:31.120 for small business for the dynamism of the american economy has always come from regional and local banks
00:04:37.300 those banks are suffering all banks are suffering but those banks are suffering disproportionately and
00:04:43.020 because of that steve that's why i say this is a systemic crisis with ongoing terrible fallout
00:04:49.480 for the economy and it's only going to lead unfortunately steve to an ever more intensified
00:04:54.480 concentration of market share among a relatively small group of oligarchs and the firms that they control
00:05:01.420 steve i want to go something that that you mentioned uh briefly you got silicon valley bank
00:05:08.980 and you got first republic that are in the uh that are in the bay area you've got signature that was
00:05:13.220 new york city i think new york city based all three of them are bedrocks of the democratic party
00:05:19.620 and particularly the either the crypto side or the or the or the the high tech side the bank side and
00:05:25.580 the very very dialed in uh and we saw the bailouts first with you know guaranteed deposits all that
00:05:33.360 does this mean particularly as we're in the middle of this massive fight over debt and remember
00:05:38.860 it was the overspending of the irresponsible illegitimate biden regime that got us into this
00:05:44.840 mess and got these banks upside down do you think the political pressure is going to come for
00:05:49.740 additional ballots and that you mentioned moody's put i think 11 of the most the top 11 regional banks
00:05:56.280 on on on on essentially credit downgrade and a credit watch which is your point is kind of the the
00:06:03.380 basket of all the important ones in the country we've got a massive crisis right now are they going
00:06:10.400 to try to use their political stroke to have maga bail them out of course they are and and steve they
00:06:15.740 already have right i mean look at what we saw happen that first weekend government never moved so fast as
00:06:21.060 when the oligarchs cracked them cracked the whip particularly the oligarchs of silicon valley so think of
00:06:25.780 that first weekend not very long ago now just weeks ago with silicon valley bank because the venture
00:06:31.380 capital firms didn't want to pony up their funds even though they had more than enough liquidity to
00:06:36.300 do so but because they didn't want to and because they used their democratic congressmen and senators
00:06:41.560 from the state of california to start barking loudly behind the scenes not in public behind the scenes
00:06:47.120 at the fed at the treasury at the fdic they got incredibly quick action the kind of quick action
00:06:52.740 by the way that the deplorables can never get when they're in trouble for example the people of east
00:06:57.220 palestine they can never get that kind of government response but svb got it right away
00:07:01.600 signature bank in new york city got it right away i fear that now this is 3.0 uh unfolding before us
00:07:08.140 with first republic which is headquartered in san francisco uh so you know yes these places
00:07:12.560 unfortunately have disproportionate political power within the democratic party and because of that
00:07:18.040 they're going to get very preferential treatment but i will also point this out steve because i think
00:07:22.080 there's a certain paradox here uh there's a certain irony to this almost you know i think that tech
00:07:27.040 more than any other business group in the country installed joe biden as president of the united
00:07:32.740 states and i notice i don't say help elect him i think they installed him because of the various
00:07:36.920 actions the zucker bucks spent all over the country the censoring of the of the laptop from hell
00:07:41.640 um the the closing down of social media accounts and and um and shadow banning of social media
00:07:47.640 accounts that were hostile to uh to the biden candidacy all of that tech largely installed
00:07:53.760 this man as their chosen president he then turned around though and instituted policies which bit tech
00:08:00.080 first uh and and so far fiercest regarding inflation you know tech layoffs in the silicon valley area over
00:08:05.960 a hundred thousand layoffs and counting in that industry now some folks out there in the audience might
00:08:10.920 say good well i want google to suffer i want microsoft to suffer and i understand uh that mentality
00:08:15.880 but realize that unfortunately the pain is ubiquitous it's spread throughout the economy
00:08:20.160 and particularly now that we're talking about the smaller and the regional banks that again are just
00:08:25.140 the lifeblood they are really the financial lubricant for an economy to make the economy hum you
00:08:30.680 know that is the the financial fuel the credit fuel that the country needs we now have a significant
00:08:35.920 credit crunch going on already unfolding in this country by the way i can prove that again and you
00:08:40.300 know i like to show charts if we can show chart number two please let's show the deposit base
00:08:44.340 of the banks in this country this is since biden took office and this is from the wall street journal
00:08:48.380 since january of 2021 uh this in the middle line there the black is all banks the lower line the
00:08:54.780 darker blue is large banks in the top line the lighter blue is the small banks you can see
00:08:59.420 the deposits have actually been uh trending downward for some time before things got to this current
00:09:05.000 crisis stage but now that they've gotten to this crisis stage they're rolling over very very
00:09:09.700 materially and small banks not surprisingly much worse off than large banks so steve this is the
00:09:16.020 definition what you see on that chart right there this new downward trend um did that rolling over
00:09:21.200 this is the very definition of a credit crunch okay keep that if uh if the guys in palm beach can keep
00:09:28.480 the um can keep uh that chart up for a second um this i mean cortez this ought to chill you to your core
00:09:38.300 because this shows you when i talk about a lost decade i mean we're just not going to wave a magic
00:09:43.760 wand what biden these guys have done is so horrific and that's why this debate going on in washington
00:09:49.180 right now is so important about this debt ceiling okay and they're gonna say oh it's not relevant it's
00:09:54.500 all this is just all a fake uh thing you got to pay your past bills that that chart shows you that
00:10:02.840 it's going to take a long we're going to have not just the right policies you have to have the
00:10:07.280 the the the cojones to enforce it because it's going to take a long time to turn this around and
00:10:14.240 right there is going to show you at a regional level you're not going to have those robust vibrant
00:10:19.560 financial institutions available to provide credit to the small shop owners and these small
00:10:26.300 entrepreneurs that are really the lifeblood of the economy sir right well and steve listen like a lot of
00:10:32.620 worthwhile endeavors in life you know finance works this way it takes a long time to build up a good
00:10:37.440 capital base to build up significant savings uh it doesn't take long at all unfortunately to destroy
00:10:42.760 savings you know as that chart unfortunately shows and again too even before the current crisis before
00:10:47.720 things got really dire in recent weeks it was already trending downward and think about this steve
00:10:52.720 it was trending downward bank deposits were trending downward while joe biden was pumping an absolutely
00:10:58.620 exorbitant amount of money into the economy money we didn't have money we were borrowing uh through
00:11:04.080 the through the absolute profligacy of the federal budget so despite that profligacy it wasn't finding
00:11:09.980 its way into bank accounts why because people had to spend it because biden's inflation is so pernicious
00:11:15.860 it's so punishing um and particularly for middle and lower income americans that even if they were seeing
00:11:21.080 additional funds flowing into their account it wasn't enough it wasn't enough to keep pace hence
00:11:25.420 why real wages meaning your income adjusted for inflation real wages have now been falling every
00:11:31.520 single month for over two years the worst streak in american history so that is also a major input
00:11:37.380 into why we see that very unfortunate chart with the money rolling over but you're exactly right steve
00:11:41.980 this isn't something that can be fixed quickly okay it's you can destroy a house in a day but it takes
00:11:47.380 months or even years to build a beautiful home okay to rebuild uh the capital and the savings of the
00:11:52.600 united states we can do it and we have to start doing it we have no choice but make no mistake
00:11:57.140 this is an arduous task before us because it's easy to destroy very difficult to build up
00:12:02.400 we told we we told about the financial structure of the world has shifted to these negative and zero
00:12:07.960 interest rates and once biden had the inflation it all changed this thing you could wreck this and
00:12:12.680 it takes you years or decades to go back uh cortez when people think of you they think of some of the
00:12:18.340 sayings you have that cut to the chase price is truth the other one is the trucks don't lie
00:12:24.060 that's right about the trucks don't lie and i i'm borrowing from my fellow colombian shakira who says
00:12:29.700 that hips don't lie well trucks don't lie uh and what i mean by that is is when things are getting
00:12:34.200 shipped uh the economy is healthy when they're not it's not i mean it's really really that simple
00:12:38.720 and uh we talked last week on war room i presented some of the evidence from jb hunt which is
00:12:43.600 the biggest trucking firm in the country and their ceo had extremely negative comments both
00:12:49.440 about the present situation and the outlook what he was specifically citing was the fact that they
00:12:53.480 cannot raise rates on their customers because of a lack of demand particularly at the consumer level
00:12:58.260 and yet their input costs continue to soar uh particularly as it pertains to fuel for a
00:13:03.060 trucking company so they're they're in a financial vice just like so many american families are again it's
00:13:07.460 it's sort of a corporate reflection of real wages going down it's real real earnings going down
00:13:12.440 for a corporation well we got more evidence of that today that that was not jb hunt specific
00:13:17.200 uh it wasn't even just center specific to only that part of trucking but rather
00:13:21.120 shipping in general because ups uh one of the most ubiquitous companies in the american economy
00:13:27.300 a giant of commerce in this country at every level from individual e-commerce all the way up to
00:13:32.440 wholesale trade ups with extremely disappointing news stock got hammered right out of the gate you
00:13:38.820 know again overnight into the morning session today uh and this is a a troubling sign for the economy
00:13:44.180 and another data point affirming my thesis which is that trucking is a leading indicator and as a
00:13:51.360 leading indicator if we pay attention to the metrics of trucking and to the comments of the people who are
00:13:56.500 deeply involved in that business we see that the consumer is spent and that the united states economy
00:14:02.220 unfortunately is significantly decelerating that is the reality right now so uh you know all of this
00:14:09.520 though points back again it's not just the business cycle it's not just bad luck all of this points back
00:14:13.740 to the created crises plural of joe biden when it comes to the economy chiefly he created the
00:14:20.240 inflationary crisis two ways number one he attacked domestic american energy production as really his first act
00:14:26.340 in office he did the dirty work of the green new deal radicals secondly exorbitant borrowing and spending
00:14:32.640 that shot interest rates through the roof cortez i'm gonna ask you i know you're busy i'm gonna ask
00:14:38.000 you if you're hanging in uh for a little bit of the next block short commercial break steve cortez
00:14:42.000 going to join us the other side also ed dowd is going to come in he's one of the first guys to call
00:14:47.240 this also he's got some uh i don't know grim news but reality check next in the war room
00:14:52.400 inflation has consequences as the fed raises interest rates to combat out-of-control government
00:15:05.940 spending long-term bonds have diminished in value crippling banks depositors are holding their
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00:17:33.900 today uh cortez uh biden announces this morning uh and he comes after uh maga extremist which i think
00:17:42.960 kind of means cortez and bannon and others in the war room contributorship uh in the posse and mtg
00:17:50.560 specifically but we're in this historic fight and this fight's what it's about we can't worry about
00:17:56.340 2024 right now we got to worry about what's in front of us and this is a historic fight you've got
00:18:01.520 speaker mccarthy and i give a hat tip to speaker mccarthy he's got a different mandate and job than we
00:18:07.320 have here at the war room i mean we pride ourselves on being the dead enders we pride ourselves on being
00:18:11.640 that anchor to the hard right uh of all the policies and making people come come our way to
00:18:17.220 get the policies we believe are correct uh this fight over the button we're dead enders and that
00:18:22.380 one penny increase to the debt ceiling prioritization of payments and let's have massive cuts now
00:18:27.420 but you can see the the issue and he's i think he's actually doing a good job i mean russ votes even
00:18:32.680 kind of signed on his plan the four and a half training the cuts uh go back to the 2022 it will give
00:18:38.260 a trade and a half and and uh you know but we'll fight this fight again in early part of next year
00:18:43.180 part of the reason i want to have you comment you've got these congressmen and they're well
00:18:47.580 intentioned but i think all a lot of times they don't connect what they're talking about
00:18:52.500 to really the economic and financial implication that you've got a congressman down in florida who's
00:18:58.100 a great guy he's a served his country he's a highly decorated he's a neocon but they're talking
00:19:03.960 about radical increase in the defense budget and look i'm a former uh military guy and i just say
00:19:10.380 hey look we gotta be thinking of non-kinetic that's where i got doubt here and we did the third we did
00:19:14.380 the conference on the third world war the early years to say hey look victory without bloodshed let's
00:19:19.220 do it like reagan did it use economic power and technological power to do it steve cortez your thoughts
00:19:25.180 yes so uh mike waltz i think you know the congressman you're talking about and i don't know if we had that
00:19:29.940 tape we could play it but uh he was on fox news and he said that we need a reagan style defense
00:19:35.580 build-up a reagan style defense build-up uh which i just thought you're number one i think
00:19:39.480 strategically that's wrong and you're exactly right by the way no doubting his personal honor and his
00:19:43.760 personal bravery i believe he was a green beret he's clearly a tough man who should be admired and
00:19:49.040 thanked of course for serving this country but he is a neocon and he wants to fight all over the
00:19:53.620 world he wants intervention all over the world he very much has that mentality uh that we in the
00:19:58.420 america first movement reject because we believe in america first foreign policy of realism and
00:20:03.460 restraint and non-interventionism it's one of the hallmarks of our movement and so we have a very
00:20:08.820 different view but to connect this back to the economy steve even if his prescriptions were a good
00:20:14.560 idea which i certainly think they are not even if it were we can't afford it steve okay so we have to
00:20:20.260 deal in the realm of harsh economic reality and when we look at the budget when we look at inflation
00:20:25.840 when we look at the the economic crisis that the united states is suffering right now in the cold
00:20:30.280 light of day the reality is even if you have neocon tendencies even if you do believe that the world is
00:20:37.340 sort of a chessboard that should be run by folks from the from the foreign policy establishment in
00:20:41.680 washington dc even if you think it's smart to massively enlarge nato beyond uh where its historic
00:20:47.800 boundaries you know i think none of that is the case but i'm just saying for the sake of argument even
00:20:50.880 if you believe in all of that steve you have to be a grown-up if you're in a position of power right
00:20:55.700 now and say we have 32 trillion dollars of debt and counting we are in a deep economic crisis and
00:21:02.900 therefore even on the national security side we have to significantly prioritize how and where we
00:21:09.440 spend our resources and i think you're exactly right steve the idea that we should spend all of it
00:21:13.840 preparing for a kinetic war we have to be ready for kinetic war of course we have to be ready for the
00:21:17.980 worst case scenario but the idea that's where most of the attention and most of the spending should go
00:21:22.380 um i think is just frankly a luddite vision this is a very new world of information warfare of
00:21:28.660 monetary foreign exchange currency warfare um of propaganda it's a very very different world it would
00:21:33.760 be such a failure if we have to get to kinetic war for example against the chinese because we have
00:21:39.280 so many levers at our disposal particularly right now we may not have some of those levers in a few
00:21:43.640 years but we have them now at our disposal to properly pressure and coerce uh and convince
00:21:49.320 the chinese to do the right thing versus vis-a-vis american interests without firing actual shots and
00:21:56.240 so i think it's important for us to you know to connect the dots here and by the way in terms of
00:21:59.720 connecting the dots uh you know what we could really use right now in the united states at a time
00:22:04.060 when we see banking deposits uh crash we could use the hundred billion dollars plus that we are spending
00:22:09.520 on ukraine to escalate a regional slavic struggle that has no discernible definable u.s national
00:22:15.420 security interest and by the way to connect both of these discussions the national security one
00:22:18.780 and the financial discussion to the corporate media i believe one of the reasons at least might not
00:22:24.660 have been a primary reason but i think one of the reasons that tucker carlson was taken off the air
00:22:28.560 is because when it comes to legacy media platforms steve he was the only figure of any significance
00:22:33.920 at the legacy media platforms who was willing to talk against this war against this escalation
00:22:40.460 and against the narrative of the foreign policy establishment of washington dc you have certainly
00:22:46.300 been the most significant force i think out there period in all of media making the case for an
00:22:51.400 america first foreign policy and against escalation but when it comes to the legacy platforms it really
00:22:56.340 was just tucker so with him taking off the field right now there's just a void there's no one in
00:23:01.300 those platforms now he's willing to only talk about sanity in the black sea cortez cortez speaks truth
00:23:08.280 to power the only guy in prime time that was anti-ukraine and and anti anti to the heart of it why we even
00:23:16.120 there i mean tucker would have the guest on and really walk through the details and they hated it
00:23:21.260 that's definitely one of the reasons it was and and paying this contract out is to shut him up for a
00:23:27.280 couple of years the murdochs are look the murdochs are evil but they're smart that's lucifer remember
00:23:32.800 lucifer plenty evil smart and cunning so that's what we're dealing with cortez how do people get to all
00:23:38.780 your content and follow you on social media i'm gonna have you back on tomorrow next time we're
00:23:42.380 talking about this the the uh the actual fight itself and and in mccarthy and what direction we
00:23:48.000 should be taking because they're probably going to be votes later in the week what uh how do people
00:23:52.320 get to you for your all your analysis no lack of action this week that's for sure steve please uh
00:23:57.440 find me at cortez steve cortez with an s on the twitter and stevecortez.substack.com thank you so
00:24:03.280 much for having me steve appreciate it thank you brother uh let's go ahead and play i got the ed
00:24:07.660 doubt on i got a couple of great cuts let's go and play the cuts on that down so war is the only
00:24:13.380 palpable narrative that populations will accept to inflate with proper propaganda that's the only
00:24:19.180 narrative that people will buy you can't say we're going to do this to save the rich if the oracle
00:24:24.480 warren buffett has told you war is coming i'm telling you war is coming believe it it's not it's
00:24:32.680 not conspiracy theory this is this is what's going to happen unfortunately unless we can figure out a
00:24:40.080 political solution in this country which at the moment i'm a little i'm a little cautious but we'll
00:24:46.180 see what happens okay uh ed doubt joins me ed you you came really to prominence in the media
00:24:54.040 because you put your analytical skills broader than the you've always been a big star in the
00:24:58.980 business media but in a broader context because you put your analytical skills to work about the
00:25:04.320 debacle of the vaccine but you're back to your wheelhouse and it's quite scary you were one of the
00:25:09.640 you know we had nothing but prominent speakers over the weekend at world war three the conference
00:25:15.240 the early years but i can tell you from people texting me you sure and we had what 300 war room
00:25:20.320 posse members there you shocked people walk me through your current assessment of the economy
00:25:26.060 you're the first guy to call to me the massive downturn we're going to take you've seen what's
00:25:31.060 happened to the banks you're seeing they're all on credit watch now the regional banks we just
00:25:34.980 walked through the deposits are getting crushed and that's the lifeblood of the economy where do we
00:25:38.940 stand on all this sir so when i went to the conference this weekend i wanted to kind of
00:25:44.140 bring people through the story of what's what's happened what's happened historically where we've
00:25:49.180 been in the past where we are now and where we're going and you know i want to build on what steve
00:25:53.980 cortez said about the credit crunch you can uh if cameron can throw up the m2 chart slide from
00:26:00.080 uh my presentation basically m2 money supply year over year growth uh went negative in november of
00:26:08.680 2022 it's the fifth time this has happened since we have m2 uh records the other four times resulted
00:26:17.740 in historical uh bank failures and financial panics the last time we had one was 1930 so this is a big
00:26:25.520 big deal and there i suspect the reason we haven't had one of these events uh since uh 1930 is because
00:26:33.480 uh we became the world reserve currency in 1944 that allowed us to export our credit uh overseas then we
00:26:42.040 had the petrodollar in 71 with nixon so this has been a 78-year cycle of credit expansion and people get
00:26:50.380 confused on credit they think it's the money supply stock uh it's not it's the flow you need constant
00:26:57.000 growth in credit to keep the thing going and we just went negative year-over-year growth and i said
00:27:01.620 historically this has been associated with bank failures and you know we just had three signature
00:27:06.700 bank silicon valley bank and credit suisse uh seemingly out of nowhere you know i'm i've been in
00:27:12.480 the markets for a long time bear stearns was rumored to go bankrupt for months on end in my world
00:27:17.500 silicon valley bank happened in a week uh the speed with which this is happening is quite alarming
00:27:23.980 steve cortez today talked about first republic bank down 30 down 92 from the top so what the fed did
00:27:32.220 uh that weekend and and the treasury department was basically a big uh come to jesus moment for them
00:27:39.000 they came up with the bank term funding plan which is nothing more than some loans so i suspect uh we
00:27:45.560 have more bank failures in front of us and those are you know my team carlos uh yuri and i have come
00:27:51.980 up with their economic forecast and we put out a report a couple weeks ago suggesting that the
00:27:56.140 recession that's coming will be hard in the third and fourth quarter and it's looking like at least
00:28:02.000 a 1990-91 snl crisis if it doesn't go to the senate which can you bar the door if that happens
00:28:07.700 hang on i want to get into all that i've also got uh bradley thayer i think we're gonna get a sean
00:28:14.760 foyte at six if we can't i'll get sean he's been accused i don't know even in the accusation about
00:28:21.980 being a christian nationalist but i've got uh want to keep ed down we've got a lot to go through
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00:29:50.780 okay welcome back uh my pillow.com promo code war room i know sometimes the reports you get on the
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00:30:31.080 is m2 important what does it track these negative numbers has been november why they're so unique
00:30:36.420 what does that portend and then you and your team have called they said hey by that we don't hear the
00:30:42.040 happy talk this was last year he said by second quarter end of second quarter third quarter we're going to be in
00:30:46.980 it and don't believe the happy talk you're hearing from the guys on cnbc so i want to connect m2 that
00:30:53.680 with the with the what you guys are seeing in your current forecast yeah so m2 is super important
00:30:59.260 because it's the money supply but it's not the supply it's the it's the flow and every time growth
00:31:06.040 year over year has gone negative uh there's been systemic bank failures uh and it's only happened
00:31:12.300 uh five times since uh 1868 last time was 1930 and interestingly enough um uh every time uh this
00:31:21.860 has happened we're already in crisis so despite the happy talk from the mainstream media the war room
00:31:27.180 you and i know we're in a crisis and the crisis is now starting to manifest in bank failures and a
00:31:33.280 hard hard landing in the economy uh carlos yuri and i our work suggests that we're going to see a
00:31:39.580 recession as bad as the one we saw with the snl crisis uh currently with our economic early cycle
00:31:46.480 indicators and it's going to probably bottom third or fourth quarter and uh when that hits uh tax
00:31:52.340 receipts are going to go lower we have a budget deficit problem we're 500 billion approximately
00:31:57.480 above where we were this time last year uh and so we're looking at two two trillion structural budget
00:32:03.280 uh with tax receipts going down uh budget deficit i mean and so we're seeing a giant liquidity sucking
00:32:10.180 sound coming out of the market in the fall uh basically this money needs to be funded somehow
00:32:16.060 and if the fed's not currently doing qe they're doing q qt that money's going to come from risk assets
00:32:21.960 and crowd out other investments the other thing going on cortez uh talked about this uh the fed raised
00:32:28.860 interest rates from zero to five percent literally in 12 months and the fed reverse uh repo program is
00:32:35.360 nothing more than uh them giving loans uh or uh money market funds giving loans to them crowding out
00:32:43.180 private investments so basically the fed at two and a half trillion reverse repo program is the money
00:32:49.360 market 40 of all money market assets are overnight at the fed the fed has no counterparty risk so the fed is
00:32:56.880 essentially crowding out uh private credit that is desperately needed and i i suspect the fed reverse
00:33:03.020 repo program uh the economy going south has caused or contributed to this n2 situation okay so we're
00:33:11.220 looking at deflation and and they're gonna have to they're gonna have to stop that and they're gonna
00:33:15.500 try to reinflate and that's why i think war is coming okay here uh what just a couple things when
00:33:23.800 people talk about bear stearns and lehman they've been people have been they've been on watch they've
00:33:27.940 been arguing about that for a year silicon valley bank signature and first republic out of nowhere
00:33:32.000 i mean boom like like a thunderbolt on a clear blue day uh credit suisse people have discussed that but
00:33:38.840 the collapse of it in this and and how what the swiss government had to do to save it and jam ubs and
00:33:44.040 credit suisse together these are extraordinary and these banks are not tiny svb and signature and first
00:33:49.620 these are some of the biggest banks in the country and they were the two second and third biggest bank
00:33:53.920 failures so my point is there's so much law of unintended consequences here there's you got
00:33:59.900 yellen who's a clown you got powell who's over his head you got biden and his economic council who are
00:34:05.820 junior varsity we're hurtling towards this and i gotta tell you it is going to be flat out catastrophic
00:34:12.520 the central banks throughout the world this is where i got i've got the birch gold guys back on this
00:34:16.460 weekend the central banks throughout the world these are not dumb people when they're in tokyo
00:34:22.320 and in russia and they're pegging the ruble to gold when they're buying gold and holding back their
00:34:26.960 resources and saying hey they're best they're going to a quasi gold standard uh it's because they have
00:34:32.840 no faith not in you in this audience full faith and credit the united states they have no faith of the
00:34:38.960 financial and political leadership of this nation ed dowd yeah so we're looking at uh
00:34:46.380 a hard economic landing we're looking at deflation but there will be a response from central banks and
00:34:52.500 governments to fight the deflationary forces that have been unleashed and so i suspect that's why
00:34:58.360 there's all this uh talk about a central bank digital currency we've got the fed now program we've got the
00:35:03.740 biden executive order uh so they're trying to bring that in and warren buffett recently sold all his
00:35:10.200 taiwan semiconductor stock this man is not dumb and he mentioned war is one of the reasons why uh china
00:35:16.200 is in desperate shape they're one of the victims of uh the uh the spending and the debt increases over
00:35:23.180 the last 20 25 years and their economy is imploding they need a boogeyman and they're going to start to
00:35:29.340 rattle the sabers to take uh the their own populations eyeball off them this is just classic uh you know
00:35:37.520 uh empire 101 when when you're in trouble you create a boogeyman and so the saber rattling in
00:35:43.740 taiwan is real and it's coming it's coming hard and fast so we see kinetic wars uh over the next
00:35:50.300 several years unfortunately well we looked here's what i know you got a balance but you know you
00:35:56.820 head into the 1920s and 30s you had the rapid hyperinflation big inflation then followed by deflation
00:36:01.800 they had run out of tools and it kind of devolves into a regional conflict a couple of regional
00:36:07.940 conflicts that then metastasize into a global conflict that's exactly how this is playing out
00:36:13.660 this is like we haven't learned anything this is the 1930s all over again and it's like we're
00:36:18.340 inexorably going to be drawn to these regional conflicts that then metastasize with a financial
00:36:23.320 crisis into a global conflict that is the third world war the early years and we have a chance to
00:36:29.300 stop it but it's this insanity that's going to washington dc ed your closing thoughts and
00:36:34.620 observations brother yeah so since the great financial crisis if you're an observer of financial
00:36:40.600 markets one thing we all noticed is that there was uh unprecedented coordination between central banks
00:36:46.700 uh to cooperate with the shanghai accord the secret shanghai accord uh in 2016 uh to kind of prop up
00:36:54.740 the financial markets before the election what we're seeing now is a dissolution of this uh this
00:37:00.640 cooperation and we're going to every man for himself and this will manifest itself in currency wars at
00:37:06.080 some point because this whole debt bubble the release valve is currencies and i suspect that's the next
00:37:12.140 crisis is currency crises and sovereign debt crises
00:37:15.180 brother how do people get to your your content you you wrote the definitive book on this disaster on the
00:37:23.960 uh and if we put that up the disaster on the um on the on this and this vaccine which is all going to
00:37:29.960 come and be part of investigations lawsuits all of it uh that you really laid out analytically what
00:37:35.800 was going on how do people get to you all your economic reports all your economic thinking all of that
00:37:41.780 where they go ed financetechnologies.com spelled ph instead of f we put out a lot of our economic reports
00:37:49.100 for free at the moment on linkedin and twitter and getter and it's also at our website um i'm on
00:37:54.760 getter at at edward dowd and twitter at dowd edward and we're just constantly dropping stuff when we have
00:38:00.740 relevant things to report well you guys have been ahead of the curve you and your team are pretty
00:38:06.960 amazing pretty pretty amazing call shots ed uh thank you very much for taking time away to join us
00:38:12.300 appreciate it thank you steve have a great one thanks brother uh do we have a call over for
00:38:19.140 bradley thayer can just okay hey dr thayer you were one of the uh and look you've done more probably
00:38:25.040 in putting forward in your last publication with lin chow han and and the other your writing team
00:38:30.120 to really warn the american people that the ccp they can't be dismissed and they're very serious
00:38:36.440 they're serious about the way they've controlled this great nation of china they're serious about how
00:38:41.180 they control the people and they are not just a formidable enemy they are a formidable enemy that
00:38:46.560 happens to be at war with us and we have a political and and and business and cultural elite
00:38:52.500 that refuse to address that walk us through your presentation uh that that you gave out in torrance
00:38:59.160 in the la area this weekend sir hi steve it's great to be with you again uh today i'm pleased to do so
00:39:07.660 uh the thrust of my argument is in order to understand the chinese communist party you need to think like
00:39:13.760 a communist uh as they do you need to understand their ideology you need to understand why it's evil
00:39:21.120 but you need to grasp that uh they're determined uh to destroy uh western capitalist system that is to
00:39:31.340 target the united states for destruction uh and um to replace essentially the free order that we created
00:39:39.760 uh with their communist tyranny just as they oppress the chinese people and have done so since 1949 when they
00:39:48.320 came to power and that's when they declared war against us uh so too uh they want to dominate the rest of the
00:39:56.340 world so when we think as they do when we think like communists we're going to be able to understand
00:40:02.860 why we're heading towards an inexorable clash with them they're driving it they're determined to destroy
00:40:09.740 us and as you said uh we've been very slow uh to pick up on that we've been very slow to respond
00:40:18.640 uh to uh their actions in what's a classic case of threat deflation we consistently underestimate
00:40:25.500 the threat that china poses uh for a variety of reasons but one big reason is uh because we don't
00:40:34.700 understand their ideology and their determination uh to destroy us and as a consequence we've allowed
00:40:42.320 them to grow year after year decade after decade and now we're in uh a fix we're in a situation where
00:40:50.080 uh we can no longer ignore this threat we can no longer ignore the danger
00:40:55.520 hang on hang on i got a couple minutes here and then i got six minutes or so on the other side
00:41:02.540 if this happened every so often that we misplayed this or didn't think it through about their
00:41:10.380 determination and that they are godless atheist marxist and they are determined the one thing you
00:41:16.520 talk about from the law march these people the the cadres and the factions that lead it are the
00:41:21.560 hardest toughest meanest people on earth to fact they don't care how many lao bai jing they don't
00:41:27.400 care how many chinese they have to slaughter in order to keep control and we've seen that through
00:41:32.320 great leap forward in the famine and the cultural revolution they're absolutely heartless when it
00:41:36.840 comes to their own people how have we gotten it you know and your presentation so amazing when i sit
00:41:43.160 there i go it can't just be happenstance that our leadership is so clueless that they make the same
00:41:50.280 mistakes again we have consistently since the world war ii and the chinese civil war afterwards and when
00:41:58.000 they took power we essentially gave them power in 1949 but then over tiananmen square if you go back
00:42:05.360 and look at may of 1989 the chinese people their own courage of these students and workers and peasants
00:42:13.360 that came together and bonded in in in beijing and other cities around china they were this close to
00:42:19.600 freedom they were this close to what eventually those dominoes fell the berlin wall fell chiescu and
00:42:26.180 and romania fell it all fell driven by what they did in tiananmen square in the month of may
00:42:32.720 you could see you could see just like in 1775 and 1776 in this nation that freedom and people
00:42:40.120 standing up against overwhelming odds to do it and the bush administration the bush regime then
00:42:46.660 for 41 back the play of deng Xiaoping and these absolute mert li ping and deng Xiaoping the biggest
00:42:54.360 murderers and assassins and hardcore old school communists that internally would say our number one
00:43:00.780 focus is destroy the americans we have always our elites have always backed the chinese communist
00:43:08.100 party and there's something not right there it doesn't make any sense you can make that mistake
00:43:13.940 once you can make that mistake twice you can't make it consistently for 70 or 80 years and there's
00:43:21.020 something not being up bradley thayer dr thayer we're going to ask for the answer when we return on one of
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00:43:33.800 century next in the war room
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00:46:32.720 out right now dr thayer help me out here brother i i i i revere you and the work you and lin chow han
00:46:39.020 your work has just been amazing over the last couple years you've really added to this conversation
00:46:44.760 and dialogue in the united states but i gotta tell you i don't get it i just don't get it and it's even
00:46:50.640 got worse at the tiananmen i don't get her elites it has to be will for blindness at best sir
00:46:56.520 steve this is the biggest mistake that we've made we've allowed uh our our enemy to rise with our
00:47:06.540 assistance uh and we've consistently avoided any effort to attack that enemy to replace the chinese
00:47:14.120 communist party uh and its rule in china as you said 1989 was one of those points and that was a
00:47:22.260 failure of the bush administration first bush uh administration clinton administration compounded
00:47:28.320 that failure when uh they abandoned linking human rights to most favorite uh uh nation trade status
00:47:36.220 renewal and then also allowing uh the ccp allowing china into the world trade organization which was
00:47:44.420 negotiated under clinton when china came in in december of 2001 so this is the biggest mistake that we've
00:47:53.140 made and why did we make it well uh i think we made it because of the power of wall street the power of
00:48:01.620 of the financiers the power of silicon valley elite capture is a big component of of how this happened
00:48:09.760 uh we also this mistake is also the result of the genius of dung jiao ping uh and his recognition that
00:48:18.940 through his hide and bide strategy that is where china uh essentially hit its growth never talked about
00:48:27.100 uh while facilitating uh u.s investment u.s manufacturing essentially sucking u.s manufacturing
00:48:35.480 into china greatly helped uh china's rise and allowed it to do so without any balancing from the united
00:48:45.320 states which is a remarkable thing to have happened in international politics that our enemy arose and we
00:48:52.300 didn't do anything about it uh and so those are uh big parts of why this happened to that i would add
00:48:59.660 the fact and the change in the balance of power the fact that the cold war ended the soviet union died
00:49:06.320 and the united states is left standing and we're incredibly powerful and at that time in 1989 1990 1991
00:49:15.760 china just doesn't look like a threat uh and so uh as a concept that uh change in the balance of power we
00:49:24.580 have massive threat deflation and we just don't care anymore about uh a peer competitive threats
00:49:31.420 that just disappeared hang on we only hang on we only got a couple minutes well here's what i'll get
00:49:38.400 with all the think tanks and the you know the smart people at harvard these other places in the government
00:49:43.040 the cia it's obvious if you study chinese history that deng Xiaoping were true believers and they
00:49:48.400 literally hated the freedoms of the west and they knew the freedoms of the west they talk about
00:49:53.300 separation of powers it was anathema to how they would roll they understood if any of this came about
00:49:58.740 they would be destroyed the chinese people would rise up and that's why tiananmen was a massacre
00:50:03.640 it was a massacre and afterwards they said we got to put this down anytime this rises
00:50:07.420 it must be how did our elites miss the central point that these people this chinese communist party
00:50:15.540 is all about the dictatorial rule of their own people and actually going after the west hammer and tong
00:50:22.520 with no back down and no relief how did they miss that they didn't understand the enemy they didn't
00:50:28.340 think like communists if they had thought like communists they would have understand that communists
00:50:34.400 see the world as an inexorable clash they're going to win they're going to defeat the west they're
00:50:39.880 going to defeat the united states history is on their side uh and so it was uh the failure of
00:50:46.940 presidential leadership it was a failure of national security leadership uh year after year decade after
00:50:54.460 decade uh steve because they chose not to understand the enemy and take the enemy at his word
00:51:00.940 uh they didn't understand uh they didn't understand communist thought and so that contributed to it
00:51:06.600 but also steve the think tanks weren't uh you know generating the right analysis they weren't
00:51:13.340 generating an accurate assessment of the china threat because think tanks are funded by uh investors
00:51:20.620 and those investors have interests in china so we see here that again the genius of dung zhaopin
00:51:27.220 by sucking in wall street uh by sucking sucking in american manufacturing in silicon valley
00:51:33.700 right what did he do he ensured that um uh there was no incentive to recognize the china threat
00:51:42.300 your paycheck depended upon in fact not recognizing the china threat so we had this generational threat
00:51:50.500 deflation where we consistently underestimated china's growth and the threat that it posed
00:51:56.460 we didn't take communism seriously we didn't understand their ideology and the fact that as
00:52:02.940 communists they put power before everything else that is yeah xi jinping destroyed hong kong
00:52:10.440 right and why did he destroy hong kong hong kong is the goose that lays the golden egg
00:52:15.620 and yet he's killing it because he favors power he favors control over hong kong more than he
00:52:23.700 he favors wealth even the even the even the cash real quick we'll get you back on more depth give
00:52:31.120 right now when everybody get to your book everybody get to your social media and your website where
00:52:35.240 they go uh be fair at center for security policy.org and i'm on getter and truth that at bradley fair
00:52:43.720 thanks steve thanks very much gotta get the latest you gotta get the latest book it it's absolutely
00:52:49.400 incredible your presentation at the conference was just amazing okay short commercial break
00:52:54.740 hang in there the next hour is going to be actually more intense than this one guaranteed
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