Bannon's War Room - May 01, 2023


Episode 2699： Massive Wins In Delaware For MAGA


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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:09.880 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:16.480 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:20.240 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:23.820 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:31.640 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:39.580 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:00:46.840 let them continue without fierce opposition and we stand here today in defiance of their
00:01:10.920 siege and destroy their symbols of oppression
00:01:40.920 we must build community outside of the virtual virtual rebellion comes in many forms to each
00:01:58.860 and their own within their own capabilities and their own situation for some of us merely existing
00:02:04.380 one more day is victory but for those of us who can we must stand up for those who cannot
00:02:10.300 come out
00:02:20.300 addiction so what we were doing is trying to destroy the symbols of the things that are caused to
00:02:25.500 that uh cause harm that oppress us um whether that is uh people's theocratic views um trying to
00:02:33.660 instill theocratic rule in a supposed secular society uh whether that is the supreme court utilizing
00:02:39.660 their powers to um decimate our rights give power to those who are further taking our rights away from
00:02:45.660 us um the symbol of the flag was meant to represent the communities that um the people in authoritative
00:02:53.020 of positions that use that use that to cause harm to those who need the most protection
00:02:57.820 we just had our opening ceremony and uh it seemed to be very well received uh we've got over 800
00:03:10.700 people registered to attend and we've got panel discussions and presenters starting probably any
00:03:15.520 minute now we've had we've had threats and there are protesters quite a few of them outside we have
00:03:22.020 no problem with them protesting that's their right to do as long as they you know keep it out there and
00:03:26.500 let us do what we need to do safely inside holy mary mother of god pray for us sinners now and at the
00:03:33.840 hour of our death amen
00:03:43.840 well to me it's always been about opposition to theocracy and authoritarianism satan to me is a very
00:04:06.240 powerful symbol of rebellion and anti-authoritarianism and you know that's kind of what it is to me
00:04:14.780 obviously everyone's here for their own reasons but yeah for me i just i don't like being told what
00:04:20.420 to do and i don't like people telling other people what to do either uh i've received death threats
00:04:24.420 leading up to this i'm sure there's been death threats sent to our headquarters uh back in the
00:04:29.180 summertime there was a arson attack in our headquarters that did a substantial amount of
00:04:32.840 damage and could have killed a number of people inside including visitors uh so it's not just
00:04:37.780 idle threats people actually you know do stuff and we had uh our director of programming for satan con
00:04:43.140 a few years ago had a gunman show up at her house and threatened to kill her and the police had to come
00:04:47.240 and take him away
00:04:47.960 if i were the devil
00:05:01.880 if i were the prince of darkness i'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness
00:05:07.820 and i'd have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population but i wouldn't
00:05:12.180 be happy until i have seized the ripest apple on the tree
00:05:15.120 thee
00:05:16.520 so i'd set about however necessary to take over the united states
00:05:21.100 i'd support the churches first i'd begin with a campaign of whispers
00:05:25.360 with the wisdom of a serpent i would whisper to you as i whispered to eve do as you please
00:05:30.300 to the young i would whisper that the bible is a myth i would convince them that man created
00:05:36.240 god instead of the other way around i would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is
00:05:40.980 square and then i'd get organized i'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting
00:05:47.380 so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting i'd peddle narcotics to whom i could
00:05:51.880 i'd tranquilize the rest with pills if i were the devil i'd soon have families at war with themselves
00:05:57.620 churches at war with themselves and nations at war with themselves until each in its turn
00:06:03.400 was consumed and i'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flame if i were the devil i would
00:06:11.540 encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions just let those run
00:06:16.460 wild until before you knew it you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every
00:06:22.140 schoolhouse door within a decade i'd have prisons overflowing i'd have judges promoting pornography
00:06:30.320 we're talking about eight-year-olds and nine-year-olds and eleven-year-olds and twelve-year-olds
00:06:34.620 he's got over 600 images gobs of video footage of these children but you say this does not signal
00:06:41.880 a heinous or egregious child pornography offense and then you went on to say the defendant was merely
00:06:47.640 trying to satisfy his curiosity that's somehow a reason to only give him three months help me
00:06:52.760 understand this soon i could evict god from the courthouse then from the schoolhouse and then from the
00:06:59.760 houses of congress i would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money
00:07:07.100 if i were the devil i'd take from those who have and give to those who want it until i could kill the
00:07:13.480 incentive of the ambitious i would caution against extremes donald trump and the migrant republicans
00:07:20.060 represented extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic i would convince the
00:07:26.960 young that marriage is old-fashioned that swinging is more fun that what you see on tv is the way to
00:07:34.560 be in other words if i were the devil i'd just keep right on doing what he's doing paul harvey
00:07:41.300 it's been with so many different bidders the fdic in the middle and of course janet yellen tell us
00:07:53.320 about it yeah it's historic it was a competitive bidding process this weekend was fast and furious but
00:08:00.420 yes the news this morning is that jp morgan is acquiring first republic directly from the fdic which
00:08:06.440 seized and immediately sold the faltering bank this transaction the result of a competitive bidding
00:08:12.460 process at least according to the fdic and jp morgan includes a majority of first republic's assets
00:08:18.780 including 173 billion dollars in loans and 30 billion dollars in securities specific terms for first
00:08:26.240 republic's underwater assets are not quite known yet we should learn more about that over the course of
00:08:31.800 the next few hours but the fdic and jp morgan entered a loss share agreement where they'll
00:08:36.920 basically share in the losses and potential recoveries from some of first republic's single
00:08:41.380 family residential and commercial loans it purchased of the former first republic bank and
00:08:47.520 jp morgan will assume about 92 billion dollars in deposits that includes the 30 billion in
00:08:53.380 uninsured deposits that were infused into first republic by itself and other large banks in
00:08:58.440 march in an effort to prevent any contagion effects from the failures of silicon valley bank and
00:09:03.540 signature bank as part of this transaction jp morgan intends to repay the deposits from its large
00:09:10.020 banking peers or eliminate them as part of the consolidation first republic will go down as the
00:09:15.660 second largest bank failure in u.s history that's bigger than silicon valley bank in a statement out
00:09:22.660 earlier this morning jp morgan chairman and ceo jamie diamond said quote our government
00:09:27.560 invited us and others to step up and we did our financial strength capabilities and business
00:09:33.440 model allowed us to develop a bid to execute the transaction in a way to minimize costs to the
00:09:39.100 deposit insurance fund that fdic estimates that the cost of that deposit insurance fund will be
00:09:44.960 about 13 billion dollars as a result of this transaction jp morgan will not be assuming first
00:09:50.140 republic's corporate debt or preferred stock shares currently trading just under two dollars per share in
00:09:57.160 pre-market so not quite at zero but they've gone down about 98 so far this year guys okay leslie
00:10:04.640 there's so many questions this morning that i think so many people have uh the first of which is
00:10:09.320 you know jp morgan was obviously in the hunt pnc was there this weekend we saw bank of america in
00:10:14.380 there uh there were questions about whether the federal reserve and the treasury were going to have
00:10:19.380 to waive some of the requirements around size in terms of how big jp morgan and bank of america
00:10:25.060 in particular already are i'm curious if we know if what kind of waivers were necessary to to complete
00:10:30.960 this transaction and ultimately what we really think the cost is going to be uh to the fdic i know
00:10:37.020 13 billion dollars is that figure that's being bandied about but i'm assuming that if if there are
00:10:43.120 potentially larger losses is it cut off at 13 yeah or could it cook or could it be higher well
00:10:48.160 yeah i think it could be higher they've got that loss share agreement there in place which um you
00:10:54.320 know would suggest that it could be higher depending on what the recoveries look like
00:10:57.780 uh for the various assets that they are um embarking on that loss share agreement with but no it's it's a
00:11:04.020 great question in terms of what uh the various regulatory thresholds are that was my uh main question as
00:11:11.440 well because there was a lot of reporting over the weekend um largely from other outlets that suggested
00:11:17.720 um you know that pnc would be the leader here just because they don't necessarily have to
00:11:22.600 um get around those regulatory constraints in terms of making a bigger bank bigger so
00:11:28.380 hopefully we will learn more in the various calls that uh are happening later today but there there
00:11:34.580 isn't any um detail in the the releases that we have so far with regard to any changes for those
00:11:40.460 thresholds no i've been trying to chase that down the other one i was trying to chase down maybe
00:11:43.680 you've done better than i have is just the idea of were there were there any waivers around uh future
00:11:50.160 lawsuits legal liability and the like given the experience that jamie diamond in particular had in
00:11:55.360 2008 around washington mutual around bear stearns the list goes on and the number the amount of
00:12:01.580 liabilities and ongoing um ongoing lawsuits that then took place for four or five years and um i think
00:12:08.460 he would say not only cost the bank billions of dollars but a headline risk if you will and
00:12:13.400 whether that is in the offing as well this time yeah that's a great question because in the release
00:12:19.580 jp morgan says kind of what they're anticipating in terms of restructuring costs but they don't have
00:12:24.540 a specific line item with regard to legal liability and and any kind of expectation they have on that
00:12:31.480 front so i agree that's something that hopefully we'll learn more potentially in the investor
00:12:35.920 presentation that's due out at seven but we also have a slew of calls um in the eight o'clock hour
00:12:40.920 as well that we should be able to get some more information on that front leslie regulators had
00:12:45.240 to be in a bit of a bind here they may not have wanted jp morgan to get any bigger but they also
00:12:49.880 are in a position of wanting to make sure they're getting the best possible deal for the remaining
00:12:53.560 assets of this bank they don't want to look like they were picking a smaller bank at higher terms as i
00:12:58.680 think we saw earlier um with some of the assets that got sold off some silicon valley bank and
00:13:03.260 signature bank they want to be in a position of knowing that this is going to go okay and
00:13:08.320 first republic had a garbage portfolio it was worse than silicon valley banks just in terms of the
00:13:13.840 loans that they'd been providing mortgages for really expensive houses at very low loans for very
00:13:19.820 long periods of time i mean that's that's something that you probably have to be pretty big to be able
00:13:24.840 to take over and deal with and say no problem we're going to do okay with this
00:13:28.420 not only that but then they had to reach out in order to fill the the gap that they had um on their
00:13:35.040 balance sheet they had to reach out to the uh the fed uh and take out loans in order to kind of
00:13:40.900 continue operations at five percent um which they were just operating essentially at a loss as a result
00:13:47.020 of that and so i think you're right becky that you know if the portfolio looked a bit more attractive
00:13:52.180 they would have been able to do just a regular way m&a deal maybe a bit more distressed over the
00:13:57.480 last few weeks but clearly this was the outcome uh that that had to take place in order to get the
00:14:03.100 deal done and i think the fdic did learn from the events of marsh and decided that this kind of
00:14:08.940 seize and sale idea where they immediately seized it but lined up a buyer in the meantime was the
00:14:14.380 best outcome to kind of ring fence the issues here
00:14:16.760 everything's just beginning but the games you want to play bring it on and now we'll fight to the end
00:14:37.580 just watch and see it's all started everything's begun and you are over
00:14:44.140 because we're taking down the ccp
00:14:48.580 spread the word all through hong kong we will fight till they're all gone
00:14:53.840 we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp
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00:16:35.220 one day one may in the year of our 2023 welcome you're in the world we got a lot to get through
00:16:43.980 they have slight technical problem in the first segment we're working through that i want to bring
00:16:48.660 in my uh we got a bunch of guests uh a ton of news lots of clips uh we started off with was a satan
00:16:55.020 con and uh then of course max evans is great um uh great uh it went viral last week talking about
00:17:02.160 paul harvey's about the devil you see it's satan con right there right in your grill
00:17:06.620 gonna tear the uh the holy bible up right in front of you right and unbaptized people
00:17:11.960 uh then we had the uh another taxpayer bailout it's not it's not jp morgan they're getting they're
00:17:18.060 gonna get the upside you're gonna share in the downside we'll get to that we got cortez
00:17:22.120 later in the show to break the entire another biden failed bank uh in let's go to i got josh hammer
00:17:28.700 uh josh you wrote an incredible piece the other day you wrote an incredible piece on um on going
00:17:35.820 to the heritage uh was it the 50th anniversary and having tucker carlson talk set the stage that
00:17:42.480 because at that time no one knew including tucker that he had been termed that the the the demonic
00:17:48.420 murdochs talk about starting about the devil right the demonic murdochs had uh had uh already decided to
00:17:54.500 fire him on that friday night walk me through your article because this is about the fight
00:17:59.640 for civilization that's why i wanted to start with this kind of demonic satanic presence in
00:18:04.760 boston this weekend yeah steve thanks as always for having me so look i mean i was at the heritage
00:18:10.220 50th anniversary gala they had tucker carlson give the keynote address which by the way i feel just
00:18:15.360 compelled to point out right off the top that was a huge deal i mean if you recall it was less than
00:18:19.660 three years ago where the old heritage foundation president k cole james who was absolutely horrible
00:18:24.840 you know after the george floyd riot started she accused america of being systemically racist and
00:18:29.520 tucker carlson devoted i think one or two nights on air back during the george floyd riots to just
00:18:35.020 utterly excoriating k cole james and the heritage foundation so the fact that heritage had tucker
00:18:40.040 here under their new president kevin roberts is a total 180 and that in and of itself was a big deal
00:18:45.180 so you know i went to this gala you know it was a massive i think like 2300 people attending
00:18:49.280 you know lots of presentations the fancy fireworks over the potomac but the highlight was definitely
00:18:55.220 tucker's keynote address and he was sensational i mean i'm a huge tucker carlson fan been on his show
00:18:59.420 longtime fan of his for many years now and you know in his speech he's a very funny guy right i mean
00:19:05.000 tucker has his slapstick humor he was making fun of his episcopalian faith i mean it was a lot of kind
00:19:10.240 of tongue-in-cheek kind of humor but when he got to the actual substance of his remarks
00:19:15.080 and as he kind of hit his hit his stride it became very clear of the message that he was
00:19:20.480 trying to impart unto all of us in the audience and the message was basically that
00:19:25.060 we live in a fundamentally different era than when tucker himself kind of came of age you know i
00:19:30.480 actually didn't even realize tucker's first job after he after he graduated college was it was as
00:19:34.180 a copy editor for an old former heritage journal and he basically said that when you know back in
00:19:39.200 the early to mid 90s when he was kind of coming of age in the movement in dc and all of that
00:19:43.740 it was kind of we we on the right were going against the left but there was still kind of a
00:19:48.460 common sense of we were all trying to ultimately do the same thing we're trying to grow the economy
00:19:54.640 we were trying to pursue the common good we were trying to fundamentally have a good country a fortified
00:19:59.920 durable resilient country with a healthy culture that would ultimately lead to the human flourishing
00:20:05.200 of the citizenry and back then to kind of paraphrase tucker you know the right will put out their
00:20:10.040 arguments the left will put out their arguments and may the best think tank white paper win but
00:20:14.720 here's the point and this is the point that tucker kind of drove home it's a point that i have made for
00:20:18.360 many years now it's really kind of thing encapsulated by this phrase that my friend dave ruboy created
00:20:23.320 of so-called knowing what time it is and what tucker basically said is that 30 years past his heritage
00:20:28.900 internship back in the early 90s that's just not the situation okay we are not now two kind of
00:20:34.040 amicably sparring partisans trying to do the same thing just through slightly different means no no
00:20:40.580 that's not what's going on here we are dealing with much of the time a fundamentally and profoundly evil
00:20:46.760 and to use your word demonic and satanic force that is fundamentally what is going on when we look
00:20:53.400 at a lot of the current issues not all of them i mean not every single issue obviously that the
00:20:57.660 liberals or the lefties take is fundamentally satanic but a lot of them these days really really are i mean
00:21:03.260 how else can you possibly describe trying to indoctrinate kindergartners or first graders into
00:21:08.780 transgenderism with the drag queens i mean i mean that is fundamentally demonic that is absolutely
00:21:13.720 demonic and that really was what tucker said he basically said we are not now in kind of a civil
00:21:20.000 disagreement between sparring partisans rather and this is kind of my take on it that that i put in the
00:21:25.560 column we are fundamentally now in a battle of really kind of theology and anthropology where we have
00:21:32.760 fundamentally different views of mankind and man's relation to his fellow man to the state and
00:21:39.020 ultimately of course to god himself that that really is the current state of the land and that
00:21:44.320 was kind of the key takeaway of tucker's speech which as you said none of us knew and tucker himself
00:21:48.920 apparently did not knew would i guess be the last public appearance that he would give as a fox news
00:21:54.460 host i want to get back to the murdochs in a second some things that went on but i think it's in your
00:21:59.820 column as i read it you refer to lincoln even during the civil war one of lincoln's one of the
00:22:05.380 phrases that we pray the same god there was obviously a big separation between what people thought of
00:22:11.100 on the issue of slavery and the issue of the enslavement of fellow human beings but you know and not that
00:22:17.200 that's pretty fundamental but there were other aspects of it too that we still had a common
00:22:21.680 civilization a common culture a lot of that's gone today would you agree
00:22:25.760 yeah absolutely yeah so with that quote i think what i was doing was i was taking a quote from
00:22:31.400 ryan william is my friend who's the president of claremont institute but he said that in an interview
00:22:35.460 a couple years ago and ryan was absolutely right to say it i mean if you think back to the 1850s i
00:22:40.140 mean in the in the build-up to this horrific horrific bloody conflict that almost ended the
00:22:44.460 american experiment less than a century in think of 1858 when abraham lincoln stephen douglas were
00:22:50.200 battling each other up and down through the state of illinois for that u.s senate seat at that time
00:22:54.620 they had profound disagreements fundamentally over the the moral worth the moral dignity of of their
00:23:01.900 black fellow americans or or not fellow americans of course as the pro-slavery crowd would argue
00:23:07.720 but fundamentally um even the people who took the morally abhorrent position of being pro-slavery or as
00:23:14.220 stephen douglas was he professed indifference on the question even that side of that debate they still
00:23:19.740 went to church they still read the bible they still at least professed to believe in the same god and
00:23:24.240 in a similar kind of anthropology of mankind to kind of use the phrase that i just used that simply is
00:23:29.980 not the case today that simply is not the case so our opposition on the other side they're not going
00:23:35.020 to church they're not going to synagogue they're not reading the bible they're not informed by a
00:23:38.720 fundamental capital t truth they're not informed by god or godliness or virtue or substantive justice
00:23:44.300 or really any of the kind of fundamental precepts that a republican citizenry cannot long endure without
00:23:51.180 so we really are dealing with a force right now that i i think is increasingly difficult to describe
00:23:57.840 as motivated or undergirded by anything other than demonic evil forces and again that's not necessarily
00:24:05.340 true if you disagree on a tax rate or whatever not every policy is capital g good versus capital e evil
00:24:11.680 but a lot of them these days are especially when it gets to these true kind of culture war civilizational
00:24:17.140 fights the likes of which really kind of animate my commentary which animated tucker's nightly monologues
00:24:21.860 on fox news back when he was there and i think that he was absolutely right to underscore that point
00:24:26.540 there's been a story out and it's been confirmed in a couple of different uh news sources that murdoch
00:24:33.840 had had a dinner i guess with tucker a week or a couple weeks before and i think his at-time fiance
00:24:38.340 say was there and she turns out she was evangelical christian murdoch and the family got a little
00:24:44.500 concerned supposedly according to the reporting that she was very spiritual very very lived
00:24:50.100 christianity she made some comments about tucker in the in the dinner and i think tucker was there
00:24:55.100 where tucker talked about some of the spiritual issues and she said something that you know he was you
00:24:59.520 know providential or and and the murdochs afterwards were very freaked out and then when they made this
00:25:04.980 decision i think friday uh afternoon early evening in los angeles the the heritage speech or the
00:25:11.780 heritage part of tucker speech played into that what do you have to say with that with people that
00:25:16.060 supposedly are on our side of the football when they hear the josh hammers and they go hey we don't
00:25:21.160 want any part of this we want you know we want lower we want deregulation we want lower taxes uh we want
00:25:27.960 uh american military involvement throughout the world but you know where tucker and josh and bannon and the
00:25:34.040 rest of these guys get on this civilizational uh internal war uh we're we're not part of that what say you
00:25:41.140 look i mean steve we're fundamentally fighting different fights um i mean you know if the same
00:25:47.240 can even be said of the forces of conservatism inc that some of them i mean i mean query whether they
00:25:52.760 even are fighting a fight i mean there are some people who are in this for kind of the theatrics or
00:25:56.940 in this for the antics who are in this to kind of maximize shareholder returns on investments and
00:26:02.360 there's nothing wrong of course with maximizing shareholder returns on investments or anything like
00:26:05.860 that but you know on the other hand there there are some of us and if i can be a little self-assuming
00:26:11.700 just for a second here i count myself among this crowd who at least think that we are in this to try
00:26:16.800 to do some small iota of good i mean look i mean i mean steve you had a you know a great career on wall
00:26:23.720 street years ago i went to one of the top law schools in the country i was working at kirkland ellis
00:26:27.640 one of the most prestigious law firms in the world i didn't kind of toss all that aside and get into
00:26:32.400 this kind of commentary writing podcasting public intellectual for lack of a better term this whole
00:26:37.900 space if i didn't actually sincerely believe what i was doing and you know i mean obviously i think
00:26:42.640 that there are some people for whom that simply is not the case so i think that's part of what is
00:26:46.940 going on here is simply what is motivating you uh not just you steve but kind of just you more
00:26:51.800 generally out there in the right of center kind of corporate or commentary space that's part of
00:26:56.140 what's going on here part of it also you know i think it's kind of just a personality difference i
00:27:00.900 mean there are some people who have been just so kind of firmly ensconced in their various
00:27:04.560 institutions especially in some of these kind of calcified think tanks and kind of journals that
00:27:10.120 go back 50 67 years and haven't actually conserved a whole lot despite their purported mission to
00:27:15.560 conserve the american experiment there are some people who have just gotten so so used to kind of
00:27:20.160 the steady paychecks and kind of putting out the same pablum week in and week out that when a tucker
00:27:24.940 carlson comes on i mean tucker if you compare his commentaries his nightly monologues his segments
00:27:30.820 the guests frankly that that he brought in onto his show just relative to a to a real the overwhelming
00:27:37.260 majority of the other of the other programming at fox you know he was fundamentally different um you
00:27:41.900 know there to be clear there are obviously some other good people at fox i'm personally a big fan of
00:27:45.840 laura ingram i love laura's show as well but if you can if you kind of just compare tucker's nightly
00:27:50.520 message to most of the other programming there when it comes to russia and ukraine when it comes
00:27:55.320 to how we should view corporate america immigration and race and crime i mean it was just a very very
00:28:02.100 very different message josh how do people get to the newsweek uh op-ed section in your social media
00:28:08.840 this article is amazing thank you yeah so newsweek.com slash opinion and um also on twitter and getter as
00:28:15.800 well uh josh underscore hammer josh thank you very much it's tucker carlson in the civilizational
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00:30:05.700 host steven k band okay welcome back it is that's the international day of uh the atheist marxist
00:30:15.840 communists that are still uh a central enemy both internal the fifth column here in this country
00:30:22.260 uh in the um and what we're fighting with the ccp and the rest throughout the world be sure you read
00:30:28.260 josh hammer's piece it's a very important piece it sets it sets the framework of tucker carlson and the
00:30:34.260 fight over tucker carlson in perspective it's a very very powerful piece tucker carlson the struggle
00:30:40.260 of uh civilizational sanity incredible piece josh hammer just a great great writer let's push i want uh
00:30:46.580 captain bannon and grace trump put up in all the different chat rooms carly bonnie and the great
00:30:52.820 team over midnight writer if you can do it too want everybody to read that uh we've got a lot to go
00:30:58.180 through a lot of uh geopolitics a lot of uh macro politics in this country economics but i want to
00:31:04.260 talk about wins where we are having and the focus we have to have i i when this interview i did with
00:31:10.660 president trump he was gracious enough it wasn't an interview i guess conversation we had on friday
00:31:15.620 and over the weekend i've made the point and then again on john frederick ratio the property's over
00:31:20.100 it's done we need to get focused we need to get maniacally focused on the general election
00:31:26.740 and particularly how we're not going to let this one get stolen it is it is all of our responsibilities
00:31:32.820 that donald j trump got 74 million votes in 2020 and he's not in the uh he's not 1600 pennsylvania
00:31:40.180 avenue have you seen all the damage the incredible massive damage done uh by this illegitimate regime
00:31:47.140 that currently occupies 1600 pennsylvania avenue i want to bring in julianne murray julianne the last
00:31:54.660 time we had you on you were running uh i guess as ag but you want a massive tell us about the case
00:31:59.060 you want in delaware that's kind of a predicate to what your new gig is okay and and i'm back so thank
00:32:05.700 you for having me um all right when we were on last time yes i was running for attorney general
00:32:11.140 uh and i had just won a vote by mail lawsuit in delaware um the general assembly was supposed to
00:32:18.420 amend the delaware constitution they didn't do it they did it statutorily uh to allow or to permit
00:32:24.820 vote by mail i challenged it while i was a candidate i was not the plaintiff i had voters that were
00:32:30.580 plaintiffs uh and it we won in the lower court and the delaware supreme court about a month before
00:32:36.660 the general election what was huge about it was that the supreme court said that it had if we were
00:32:42.020 going to amend our absentee voting to include vote by mail it had to be done by a constitutional amendment
00:32:49.700 and that that you know um the the best thing about that constitutional amendment is that it takes two
00:32:56.020 terms so the general election of 2024 our constitution can't be amended before the general election of
00:33:02.980 2024 so there will be no vote by mail in delaware in 2024
00:33:10.420 and then uh and since i'm still here uh you know since then i lost the ag race by 12 225 votes in in
00:33:19.780 delaware and i turned my sights on becoming uh the gop chairman because i don't you know republicans
00:33:27.460 the republican party in delaware has been silent for too long and you know we're not going to be
00:33:31.460 silent anymore and i won that chair race over the weekend uh on saturday
00:33:39.220 okay uh and i keep getting this i'm just going to keep talking uh and it was it was an interesting
00:33:44.820 race it was basically uh we had what i would consider to be an establishment uh chair who had
00:33:51.300 she's only been in for four years but she is uh she was an attorney general in delaware back in
00:33:57.780 uh the 1990s and into the early 2000s and actually left office as the attorney general to go on to become
00:34:04.820 a judge uh to give uh the ag seat to joe biden's son beau biden uh so you know she has always been
00:34:12.500 viewed in the republican party uh as more establishment uh and you know and delaware
00:34:18.180 actually has a huge america first contingent that has been really dissatisfied with uh you know how
00:34:26.660 the republican party was acting uh not being overt enough not punching back uh and you know i'm very
00:34:33.540 vocal i've got i've got high energy and you know i made that pitch to the delegates and here we are
00:34:38.500 let me ask you uh i want to get to the the victory by the way we have a slight technical problem
00:34:46.340 is is is what you want in elaware isn't that applicable in other states like in pennsylvania
00:34:53.140 why is no one why is only you that have really gone to the mat about this mail-in ballot fiasco and
00:35:00.580 actually pointed out that it's this kind of constitutional you just can't pass on law
00:35:05.140 okay so number one i'm reserving the right to come back on with you
00:35:22.500 when you know because i can sort of i hear what's going with the technical stuff but pennsylvania
00:35:26.740 actually did have a case uh and while our case was pending the pennsylvania decision came out
00:35:32.820 and basically they did all sorts of legal gymnastics to hold that it was constitutional
00:35:39.060 to have vote by mail they had a very similar constitution massachusetts had exactly the same
00:35:44.420 thing while our case was pending and massachusetts also ruled that uh that it was constitutional to
00:35:51.460 have to have vote by mail the difference in delaware was that our history uh basically every time there
00:35:59.140 has been what i would call an amendment to the absentee categories it has been done by constitutional
00:36:05.220 amendment it was a really pure legal issue here uh that we were able to you know really hone in on
00:36:11.620 that said basically look you've done it before and then the other thing was that uh in 2020 vote by
00:36:18.580 mail was in place as you know nationally and it was challenged here in delaware in 2020 and the vote by
00:36:25.060 mail was upheld in delaware in 2020 under the emergency powers of the general assembly not
00:36:32.180 their broad powers so in 2022 they come forward they don't have the quote covet emergency anymore
00:36:38.980 and they basically say well we always had the right to do this it's under our broad powers and what we
00:36:44.820 argued was no it's not you have to you know this that you you cannot you basically by doing this
00:36:50.180 are offending the constitution if you want to change the constitution you can do that but it's
00:36:55.780 going to take two-thirds of both houses over two two-year sessions and you know what we want
00:37:02.580 let me ask you a dumb question could because i keep telling people we have to just focus on 2024
00:37:08.180 could these other states with other lawyers go and continue to pursue this and improve and
00:37:13.220 and get to the point that showed that the mail-in ballots are unconstitutional
00:37:17.460 it's going to really vary by state uh it's going to vary depending on what the state constitutions
00:37:24.180 uh say what the you know i mean because election law is you know is you know is largely state law
00:37:31.620 do i think that there are other cases out there sure uh but for instance in pennsylvania when that
00:37:36.980 decision came down it was based on pennsylvania law it wasn't based on federal law so sometimes when
00:37:43.540 you go you know you go up the the path the legal path you have to make a choice of whether it's
00:37:48.580 going to be a state case or a federal case they you know and they don't necessarily cross over
00:37:54.500 i can tell you that you know now that i'm you know have a platform in terms of being a gop chair
00:38:00.100 i'm going to be reaching out to other gop chairs to find out where they are on vote by mail uh because i do
00:38:06.180 think that i mean i can tell you in 2020 i was actually a gubernatorial candidate in 2020 in delaware in the
00:38:11.940 general election and i was down by a hundred thousand votes before the first machine vote was
00:38:17.300 cast in 2020 we essentially tied on the machine vote in 2020 5 000 vote difference but the vote by
00:38:24.020 mail made the difference uh so vote by mail is absolutely you know a you know a an election
00:38:29.300 changer and so as much as we can you know get that you know um eradicated or more secure uh you
00:38:37.540 know we just we have to do it you know and for me personally i had to attack delaware i'm working
00:38:42.500 in delaware and you know we are going to make delaware um you know america first in the first
00:38:47.860 state we're going to stop biden in his own state from uh and going to uh need some reorganization
00:38:54.980 funds i and last time i was on with you it was terrific i went to uh murray for delaware.com so we've
00:39:00.020 just set that up to show you know you can help out the the delaware gop because we're going to be ground
00:39:05.060 zero tell us about your victory how did america first mega candidate win and what a lot of people
00:39:11.780 would think would be at best uh republican established the sleepy uh sleepy uh republican
00:39:18.020 party there how did america first and a mega candidate actually become gop chair it actually
00:39:24.420 um strategically uh we started uh meeting i mean people called me the day after the general election
00:39:30.420 and asked me to run for the gop chair and i actually ran two years ago in 2021 and lost by
00:39:35.940 15 votes uh it was a very last minute kind of campaign so so we knew that i had uh popularity
00:39:43.220 with delegates and uh we put a team a team together about 15 or 20 of us uh started right after the first
00:39:50.020 of the year and you know we were strategic about it we knew where the delegates were we got delegates
00:39:56.980 uh you know um placed uh for coming into the convention i timed my announcement uh to about
00:40:04.420 five weeks before the general election and i it was just i mean it was a complete team effort but we
00:40:11.060 you know we knew which counties we needed to win in uh and you know how to get to that number
00:40:18.820 uh what what word would you have for because we've had some people have won chairmanships
00:40:23.620 there's a couple we're trying to get on like in maine that we've had these county chairs obviously
00:40:27.540 the precinct strategy is a is a huge part of the war posse what would be your your word of
00:40:34.100 encouragement and reality check to the to the mega base throughout the country about really starting
00:40:39.540 to take over the gop from the grassroots level that you can accomplish anything if you're willing to
00:40:44.900 fight for it it's just how much of yourself you're willing to put into it i stood before that
00:40:49.700 delegation knowing that there were people there that were hating the fact that i was there and i
00:40:55.860 said we're going to take it to them i am you know i'm going to be fearless about this we have to fight
00:41:01.380 we are not going to be silent anymore we just you know so i think that you got to dig deep that fight
00:41:08.660 is in all of us you know and i i jokingly i didn't make the joke but i said i'm going to use a
00:41:14.100 line from the untouchables what are you prepared to do i'm standing here you know i am you know i
00:41:19.700 am a practicing attorney that is going to be working part-time in my law office just so that
00:41:25.140 i can be the gop chair and get our candidates elected and i think the other thing that is
00:41:30.500 super important going into 2024 particularly like here in delaware is that grassroots involvement
00:41:36.900 i've run two statewide campaigns with unbelievable grassroots support we need to be focused on those
00:41:42.820 general assembly seats our state legislature seats get the republicans who don't normally vote to buy
00:41:49.780 in on issues voting is an emotional response if we stick to our issues and get people hooked we are
00:41:57.620 going to bring republicans out i've read precinct strategy i totally subscribe to what he's talking
00:42:03.220 about and we are going to be doing that here in delaware julianne how do people i get to you
00:42:09.540 this is very inspirational social media website all of it how do people get to know you better uh in
00:42:15.060 your uh crusade okay i appreciate it so my uh murray for delaware m-u-r-r-a-y for delaware.com
00:42:22.740 is uh you know is the it was my old campaign site but we've been using it as a landing page
00:42:28.260 uh we're updating right now the delaware gop.com uh site so it will have my bio and everything on it
00:42:36.420 right now for twitter it's murray for the number four de.com and then facebook is um uh julianne
00:42:44.820 murray as i'm looking at my guy for delaware uh so you you can find me if you get out you go to
00:42:50.980 go to your search engine of choice and put in julianne murray you're going to find me
00:42:55.940 julianne i said you were special the first time you were on here and now you've proven it beyond
00:43:00.180 any shadow of a doubt great congratulations the new gop chair for the great state of delaware
00:43:06.420 ma'am thank you very much one last thing real quick you called me a hammer but you called me
00:43:11.300 a hammer the last time you were on here i am my husband's now calling me chairman hammer uh so you
00:43:17.460 know you're going to hear much yeah you're going to hear much more from me and you know where you
00:43:22.020 know we're going to turn this around i yeah i am 53 years old and super motivated to make a difference
00:43:27.860 so we're going to get it done no doubt that's what we led with josh hammer before you were on
00:43:33.940 because your name okay julianne i'll follow you closely all right thank you so much thank you
00:43:39.460 ma'am julianne murray the new gop chair in delaware she said if she can do it anybody can do it if you
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00:46:30.580 everybody had a chance to see the conversation i had with president trump at mar-a-lago on a friday
00:46:36.100 we'll be doing clips from that and commenting on it making observations about it by the way go to uh
00:46:41.300 was it 45 a book dot com 45 book dot com for his book letters to trump you don't you don't want to
00:46:47.860 miss that it's absolutely extraordinary shows you the side of president trump some of this the side
00:46:52.740 we tried to show in that interview or that conversation that if uh that was kind of the 15
00:46:58.100 and 16 president trump before the media completely just went absolutely nuts and the judiciary system
00:47:04.020 and all of it to try to tear down and destroy president trump um but uh and you know i've been a big
00:47:09.940 fan of governor de santos as a governor and i think with a little more experience at some future point
00:47:15.940 in time he may be actually a very good candidate for president but that's not now and let me be brutally
00:47:21.140 frank this uh this excursion he took overseas was embarrassing to him he is going to destroy his
00:47:27.700 political career if he continues to listen to these consultants that are going to make 25 or 30 million
00:47:32.980 dollars and the big donors that put in 100 million dollars ken griffin doesn't know what he's doing or
00:47:38.580 talking about about politics in the american people these fat cat donors don't understand it and they
00:47:45.220 sent you on what was a humiliating tour of the world you know south korea japan um israel and then this
00:47:55.060 humiliation in england where the prime minister would not meet with you and you had a uh you had this
00:48:01.460 meeting with the top people in the financial community and the top corporations in london what's
00:48:06.820 called the city of london that's the old part of london that is their wall street so when we say city
00:48:12.100 of london we don't mean london itself that's the old part inside of london that is the wall street of
00:48:17.620 really europe it was humiliating uh the politico story was a humiliation to you you're just not ready
00:48:26.340 for the scale that you need to be ready for it just that's it's a simple president trump gave us four
00:48:31.540 years of peace and prosperity we're in a the beginning stages of a third world war of a massive financial
00:48:36.580 crisis we just had another bailout of a bank and they're not telling you the truth i put it up on
00:48:41.140 getter you the taxpayer are going to basically underwrite half the losses and the losses here
00:48:46.340 are going to be substantial once again it's another federal government bailout jamie diamond said well
00:48:51.140 phase one's over these high-tech banks remember all the high-tech oligarchs didn't put in a penny
00:48:58.900 they're out scot-free the three banks signatures uh silicon valley bank of first republic and then
00:49:06.740 let's throw in the crypto bank to win under may make it four they're not out one one penny but you
00:49:13.620 the taxpayer are these are biden banks that were destroyed by biden bonds by biden inflation
00:49:20.100 let's talk about the practicality how we're going to win linda rance
00:49:23.140 is uh from missouri has done all the work on the paper bouts linda i'm thank you for coming on
00:49:30.500 and i can already tell them i have to hold you through the break we're a little jammed here today
00:49:33.220 with our technical issues but linda let me let me be brutal for two things number one for our audience
00:49:39.220 axios has done an interview with the uh chairman and the ceo of dominion i've got it up on getter and
00:49:46.420 you should just read it you should hear their perspective this is not a particularly
00:49:50.100 um it's not a tough interview it's kind of a softball but you ought to hear the fox situation
00:49:57.060 from their perspective we always love to give both sides of the argument so you can decide but you
00:50:01.300 ought to hear what dominion has to say it's an exclusive interview on axios we now have it up on
00:50:05.380 getter and i would ask mo and grace chung to make sure everybody sees it the guardian over the weekend
00:50:12.820 and look the guardian is a left-wing the premier left-wing newspaper in the world but it's very
00:50:18.100 uh it's a very well edited paper and linda they said essentially that you because you're one of
00:50:25.540 the drivers and back this you're going to bankrupt shasta county california unbeknownst to the rubes
00:50:31.860 out there that have voted in um uh paper ballots and hand count and the reason is that it's going to
00:50:38.660 cost millions and millions of dollars that nobody understands except you and you understand it but the
00:50:43.780 rubes don't and they're about to bankrupt their entire county your response ma'am well i think
00:50:51.700 everything that's being said right now where hand counting costs so much more money than using machines
00:50:58.100 is just being pushed out to discourage counties from making the change or even looking at the change
00:51:04.500 so in shasta county uh i did some numbers for them based on last their last two presidential elections
00:51:12.020 and their june election i don't know if you have slides that you can put up but the numbers for
00:51:17.060 the additional labor which is what they're going after so their clerk did an analysis and she said
00:51:22.580 it's going to cost 1.6 million dollars in additional labor now i did it based on teams of four what we've
00:51:30.020 done in missouri it came out to be about a hundred thousand dollars in additional labor for a presidential
00:51:37.860 election and even if i'm wrong thank you yes even if i'm wrong and it's double of that um and that's
00:51:45.060 the election day number if you could skip to number nine or go forward a couple slides because that's
00:51:50.580 that's at the polling places on election day and they do in-person voting on election day their polling
00:51:57.940 places rarely get even in a presidential election 500 ballots and when we just hand counted osage county
00:52:04.420 missouri our largest polling place had 500 ballots and they were done in five hours so it's not it's
00:52:10.980 not more complex it's not any different but it's done to discourage and they took these numbers and
00:52:16.820 in the analysis i went through the analysis done thank you that's the grand total so you can see the
00:52:22.020 2016 line at the top the 2020 which was slightly more but they're both in the far right column around
00:52:28.180 a hundred thousand dollars for all the labor to count up the ballots and then in last june when they
00:52:33.700 had one of their more local elections it was only 65 000 but even if these are off and you had to
00:52:39.700 double them they're still nowhere near the 1.6 million that the clerk is saying now she's adding
00:52:45.620 in a lot of other costs i'm sorry go ahead yeah yeah hang on let me i want to hold you through the
00:52:50.580 break okay we're a little jammed up here with our technical but but i want to hold you through the
00:52:54.100 break and then i think maybe we'll bring you back at six one night when i've got more a gap in each
00:52:59.780 segment to walk through each slide but i want to hold you particularly because the guardian and the uh
00:53:05.380 i guess the county supervisor out there the clerk was uh pretty adamant that linda rance is going to
00:53:11.540 bankrupt the county okay so we're gonna take a short break we got cash patel derrick carvey steve cortez
00:53:17.540 the word we're jammed up but it's all good here on a monday starting the month of may
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