Ben Harnwell and Stephen Kamb join me to talk about the coronation of the new King of the United Kingdom, Prince Charles, and why he should have been crowned in Westminster Abbey. We also discuss the deep state behind the throne, and the role of the Crown.
00:06:44.900Number one, if you saw the coronation today, a deeply Christian service, really passing on the Protestant crown of the United Kingdom and the pledge to make sure that there's a Protestant king following the Protestant religion.
00:07:00.900And I understand that that is something that we've got to drill down on as more form or is that just form or is there any substance there?
00:07:08.280Also, an incredible article in Politico this morning.
00:07:16.400I'm going to bring in Ben Harnwell here for a second.
00:07:18.700I tell you what, let me bring Ben in on the service.
00:07:21.380Then I want to get to the article in Politico.
00:07:23.460Politico Europe had, quite frankly, an amazing piece for Politico that talked about the power behind the throne.
00:07:32.220And it's one of the most succinct and brilliant analysis of how the administrative state and the deep state report actually more to the crown than they do to parliament.
00:07:45.100And this is important as we take on and fight the administrative state here because you go back to the stopping Trump.
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00:08:02.280Ben, first off, you're now head of the International Bureau out of Rome, but you're an Englishman.
00:08:09.700Walk us through the service we saw today, particularly – it was essentially an Episcopalian or Anglican high mass with the coronation is all – essentially, it's not so much – it's the people saying he's a legitimate king because I realized – remember, he's king from the moment the queen dies.
00:08:27.660So the Ascension Council and this are kind of pro forma because he is the king the moment she dies, the moment the previous crown, either king or queen, dies.
00:08:41.660This is really in the lineage of the Church of England and the Protestant and making sure that there is a Protestant that sits on the throne, sir?
00:09:22.460The important thing I would suggest here to remember is that you're mentioning absolutely correctly that Charles was king the moment his mother, the late queen, died.
00:09:33.760And the point about the coronation, I would suggest, in its historical context, isn't so much the literal coronation, the pudding of the crown, the symbolic power that is absolutely important.
00:09:47.380It's the anointing that's behind it, that takes place behind the screen, shielded from the television cameras because of its intimate and private nature.
00:09:58.300And that anointing can only be understood, I would suggest, within the Judeo-Christian context by going back to the Old Testament, by going back to Samuel and 1 Chronicles, where Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon king.
00:10:18.800Those are the words of the anthem that was being played during that anointment process.
00:10:25.780That is the point about this coronation.
00:10:29.720And the anointment is an explicitly religious, explicitly Christian motif.
00:10:36.200It's a chrism, which, of course, priests are anointed with chrism in the Catholic tradition when they're ordained priests.
00:10:45.040We are all, as Catholics and Christians and Protestants as well, I think, anointed with chrism, either baptism or confirmation, depending on the liturgy, on the denomination.
00:11:00.120But the chrism, the anointment, that's where it's all related, the Greek origin of the word there, to where Christ comes from as well.
00:11:12.560All of this is held up and exalted in that ceremony.
00:11:16.660So, you know, you're going to be talking a little later about the Christian nationalism aspect and the uniting of the Christian culture within the instruments of state.
00:11:26.420I don't think it's better identified than within the English coronation liturgy that we saw today.
00:11:34.600What – and by the way, we've got some other clips we're going to play that I think people will be quite interested in.
00:11:45.720We're going to get more to the ceremony itself, but I want to go to this Politico story.
00:11:49.520And this is why for everybody, the board of policy, we've got a lot to go through the day.
00:11:54.060Biden's interview, we're going to break it down.
00:11:56.540The attacks right now coming – Axios' big story about going after Moms for Liberty, tying Moms for Liberty to the John Birch Society to be a bircher.
00:12:29.700As the creditors committee, it's game on now.
00:12:32.680They've identified, and they're trying to come up with a short-term interim solution that we're not going to agree with, and we'll say why.
00:12:41.480But Politico has got an incredible story called The Power Behind the Throne.
00:12:48.560And in this – I actually lead in on Getter where I put it up, and I want – if Denver can put this up on the screen now.
00:12:56.360The British administrative state reports to the crown, as it is from time immemorial, the true power in England.
00:13:02.820They make the case of, Ben – and you were kind of part of this – that you've got parliament, but you have the British bureaucracy.
00:13:11.400It's immovable, and there's many or more crown designees that are part of that permanent bureaucracy than the handful and very small handful from cabinet and subsecretaries that really control it.
00:13:27.220And this is why Tony Blair and people have said from day one you can't get the British bureaucracy to move and that they're actually more loyal to the crown and the permanent administrative state than they are to any what they call transitory political trends.
00:13:42.380Your comments – give me a minute on that before we go to break.
00:13:44.940Steve, it's a very – it's this thing.
00:13:48.340I mean, if anyone who's watched, yes, minister or yes, prime minister of the old British sitcom from the 80s will know the essence of this debate.
00:13:56.120I actually take a slightly different view from the political article.
00:13:59.540In an ideal situation, I actually believe the monarchy is perhaps part of the solution over overcoming the stubbornness and immovability of the civil service.
00:14:09.820Because the ministers that the civil servants are obliged to obey are ministers of the crown.
00:14:17.620They exercise their power, their responsibility, their authority, their legal authority as ministers of the crown in whom lies the ultimate sovereign power.
00:14:30.240And, you know, we spoke about this indirectly, if you remember, Steve, when Boris Johnson resigned.
00:14:35.180We spoke explicitly about him going to the queen, handing back the seals of office.
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00:17:34.520And it's certainly from an American's viewpoint, particularly I know a lot of people are not big on Charles, is that his wingman, his queen, did not quite live up to Diana.
00:17:53.820Well, I think the country divides itself pretty evenly to two halves on this.
00:18:00.940There's one camp that will still be firmly very sentimental towards the prince of the former, I forget her correct former title, Diana, the Diana, Princess of Wales.
00:18:13.240And the other half think that she was sort of manipulative, crazy, and emotionally unstable.
00:18:20.680And she was damaging fundamentally to the long-term prospects of the monarchy.
00:18:25.960I would probably fall into that second camp.
00:18:28.540I don't know if I could give you an impartial reading of Diana.
00:18:32.820But she is, and she will remain, the mother of the future king, William, eventually.
00:18:39.760And I think will be warranted by posterity in history some respect because of that fact, if only because of that fact.
00:18:50.680I want to get back to the administrative state because we're going to get into a lot of the politics here that have broken just over the last 24 or 48 hours.
00:18:57.160You can see now the outlines of what this campaign is going to be about.
00:19:01.620And President Trump, let me reiterate, President Trump has many times, even overnight, the administrative state, their legal aspect of it, they're trying to take him out through lawfare.
00:19:12.680He's identified even more than the CCP, and I would argue the CCP is infiltrated, and you can see this in the situation of Miles Guo in the Justice Department, in Higginbotham and all of that, the depth of corruption and involvement by the CCP in the administrative state here.
00:19:31.080Politico makes the argument that it's the crown, that the power behind the crown is the civil service, be actually the administrative state.
00:19:40.500We know, and for all you guys who are James Bond fans and see all these movies, that is the administrative and deep state at work, right?
00:19:49.280That's the British, MI5, MI6, very close to the FBI, very close to the CIA.
00:19:54.840You've got the Five Eyes program, all of that.
00:19:57.560But this article says that, hey, they look at Parliament, and they've got great quotes from Tony Blair and Borussia, all of them, saying that they couldn't make any changes.
00:20:12.100In fact, they just turfed out, I think, one of the most prominent members of SUNAC's cabinet for, quote-unquote, bullying because the administrative state basically reported that, oh, he screamed at us.
00:20:40.440And I'm not saying they don't have, obviously, their constitutional monarch, but the reality is, and anybody who watched the series The Crown saw the folks around them were hardwired into not just the British establishment, but to the British civil service administrative state and deep state, sir.
00:21:01.660I mean, Steve, it's true to a certain extent, but for me, the problem with the British deep state establishment isn't so much the fact that you have all these Sir Humphreys walking in lopstep, frustrating the ability of an elected government to fulfil its manifested commitments.
00:21:24.460The problem is that, you know, since Margaret Thatcher, I don't think this country of either particular party, we've had a prime minister with the stones to face down the civil service.
00:21:34.800It was said of Margaret Thatcher that she couldn't meet an institution wanting to hit it with her handbag.
00:21:52.680But the point was that even when they were wrong, they were doing what they actually wanted to do and not that sort of blancmange-like blob that surrounds elected office insisting that its way is the best.
00:22:06.740No, Steve, the problem with the British establishment is that we need a prime minister who has a spine and is willing to face down the civil service and is willing to sack people if they frustrate an elected world.
00:22:19.840And I would say this, not only with a pseudo-conservative government like the one we have at the moment, but even the Labour Party, you know, which will probably win the next election, Keir Starmer.
00:22:30.360What we cannot have, I think it's disgraceful, is a situation like you were mentioning with Dominic Robb, the deputy prime minister, who was forced out because he bullied civil servants.
00:23:01.280If they don't like it, they should quit the civil service and either go and work for an NGO or one of the vast organisations within the apparatus of what they call civil society,
00:23:14.040which leeches off the public teat anyway in terms of funding and financing, or perish the thought they could go out and get a private sector job and work those sort of harder, longer hours,
00:23:25.840get some sort of grease on their hands like ordinary, regular people.
00:23:30.580And then they'd be very welcome to their political opinions.
00:23:33.280But I think it's objectionable that people without any electoral mandate can frustrate the will of a government, even when the government is wrong.
00:23:41.820If you, I want to tie this back to domestic politics and still the power of the British establishment.
00:23:50.120If you've traveled around the world on business or if you've lived in other countries on business, the United States, you know, we're a colony of the British Empire.
00:24:02.380D.C. is not like the big center of international thought, even New York.
00:24:06.380New York has tons of hedge fund guys and it's the global capital, particularly of finance.
00:24:14.180But London is much more of the global city because you still have everybody from the Empire and everybody from Western Europe is there.
00:24:22.120That's why Ron DeSantis and Ron DeSantis today, they're leaking that he was going to do an exploratory committee.
00:24:28.680Now they're saying he's going to full bore and by June, he's going to be all in.
00:24:33.220That's that's breaking, I think, on access and a couple of sites today that what they leaked over the last couple of days of this of the exploratory committees out.
00:24:47.460The lack of momentum among the business community now about his flop in his flop in the UK, this meeting he went over there and had where he met the heads of of what's called the city of London, which is their Wall Street in British industry and the consulting class, the McKinsey's, the Booz Allen's, all the heads, the proper heads, 50 to 100 people where he absolutely flopped.
00:25:13.600And that's had a chilling effect on certain of his donors.
00:25:16.680Other donors are just so hard in and what they've seen on Trump and particularly Trump's Trump's momentum in this in this primary that they're more than ever in back of DeSantis.
00:25:29.300And quite frankly, I think he's got his head is now he's going to go do it.
00:25:32.860Um, and this is this is shows you that this is going to be a huge throwdown.
00:25:39.560This primary is essentially over, but DeSantis, the money in back of DeSantis, there's still a never Trump movement.
00:25:45.640And one of the reasons there's a massive never Trump movement is Donald J.
00:25:50.320Trump, like Thatcher, took on when you say the establishment, he took on the administrative state.
00:25:57.200And he's designated, he said now, and if you look at his even truths over the last overnight about Bill Barr in this, he has laid down that they are the biggest enemy of the people, even more so than the Chinese Communist Party, and that he is going to take it on and dismantle it.
00:26:17.940But for all the audience who are fervent believers in President Trump in part of the Trump movement, you have to understand it's game on now.
00:26:30.820This is this is one side is going to win this and one side is going to lose this.
00:26:35.100And when I say win or lose, I just don't mean at the ballot box, because as I told President Trump, when you win your third, your third, the third time and take your second term every day against this administrative state is going to be Stalingrad.
00:26:52.720They're they're they're going to dig in like nothing else.
00:26:55.300So anybody out there in the audience that just thinks, you know, he can get by the primary because the next five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years are going to be a struggle.
00:27:09.380I'd love to give you a message of we got the sunlit uplands right here and all we got to do is win Iowa, New Hampshire, and that's all going to be great.
00:27:17.720Then he's going to go win, you know, win 276 electoral votes in in November of 2024.
00:27:24.800And that's what we find now. And one of the ways you can tell that is Joe Biden throwing down last night.
00:27:30.380Joe Biden didn't identify Trump as the problem, didn't identify the Republican Party as a problem, didn't identify.
00:27:36.020He identified the MAGA Republicans, the MAGA extremists.
00:27:40.440That would be you. They are there to thwart President Trump.
00:27:45.120But in thwarting President Trump, they understand what President Trump is represents now.
00:27:49.840And that is a mass movement of populist nationalism who has the administrative state in their gun sites.
00:27:56.000So it is game on. I'm a whole Ben quickly through the break.
00:28:00.540I want to update on Ukraine. We got a lot to go through today.
00:28:03.220I'm going to get to we're going to play a bunch of clips. I'm going to talk about this interview last night.
00:28:06.380And also, they put the moms for liberty. They understand the parental rights movement.
00:28:10.740They're tripling down on the grooming.
00:28:13.780They're tripling down on the radical sexual ideology in the schools.
00:28:17.620They're going to back the radical activist librarians and an activist teacher.
00:28:21.980Game on. 2024 coming into full high relief here this morning in the war room.
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00:47:49.420This is the way I'll answer that, Geraldo.
00:47:53.140Which is, if you believe in his policies, what he's advertising is his policies, he's the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them.
00:49:02.980The American people said we like their vision better than ours.
00:49:05.180But debate the vision and whether or not we're going to take our country backward and certainly not whether or not we're going to default on our debt.
00:49:14.580And I remind you that under the previous president, Republicans voted three times to increase the debt limit.
00:49:39.160The debate is that guy right there is the illegitimate head of the regime currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue who understands they stole this.
00:50:12.680And the Wall Street Journal has a huge piece up right now that Biden's got a tough month in front of him because of the invasion on the southern border and the debt crisis.
00:50:22.240Both of those are are make his month tough because of you.
00:50:30.260That's all the reporting of Michael Yan and Ben Burkwam and Oscar Blue Ramirez and Todd Benzman and months and months and now years of covering that so that you would be informed and be prepared and make sure that, you know, everybody in the Republican Party now knows this.
00:50:47.100This invasion of what they've done to the debt ceiling, they're going to try to talk about everything except what's important.
00:50:59.040We can't let Leviathan, the administrative state, these radical Democrats in the combination with the oligarchs in Silicon Valley in these these lords of Wall Street to take our country and to destroy our country, destroy the sovereignty of our country, destroy American citizens.
00:54:26.120Get focused because we're in it now and they're coming and they're going to come hard.
00:54:33.240Very, very, very hard because they understand you're the only thing that stands in their way of complete and total control of the nation.
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