Bannon's War Room - Episode 2713： The Coronation Of King Charles; Biden Pledges To Dismantle MAGA

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00:06:35.180 I understand that that probably is getting mixed reviews for a lot of this audience in the war room.

00:06:41.900 But there is a method to our madness.

00:06:43.900 A couple of things.

00:06:44.900 Number one, if you saw the coronation today, a deeply Christian service, really passing on the Protestant crown of the United Kingdom and the pledge to make sure that there's a Protestant king following the Protestant religion.

00:07:00.900 And I understand that that is something that we've got to drill down on as more form or is that just form or is there any substance there?

00:07:08.280 Also, an incredible article in Politico this morning.

00:07:16.400 I'm going to bring in Ben Harnwell here for a second.

00:07:18.700 I tell you what, let me bring Ben in on the service.

00:07:21.380 Then I want to get to the article in Politico.

00:07:23.460 Politico Europe had, quite frankly, an amazing piece for Politico that talked about the power behind the throne.

00:07:32.220 And it's one of the most succinct and brilliant analysis of how the administrative state and the deep state report actually more to the crown than they do to parliament.

00:07:45.100 And this is important as we take on and fight the administrative state here because you go back to the stopping Trump.

00:07:51.920 Remember, MI5 and MI6 were up to their neck in that in Project Operation Hurricane, Project Hurricane.

00:08:00.020 Let's go to Ben Harnwell.

00:08:02.280 Ben, first off, you're now head of the International Bureau out of Rome, but you're an Englishman.

00:08:09.700 Walk us through the service we saw today, particularly – it was essentially an Episcopalian or Anglican high mass with the coronation is all – essentially, it's not so much – it's the people saying he's a legitimate king because I realized – remember, he's king from the moment the queen dies.

00:08:27.660 So the Ascension Council and this are kind of pro forma because he is the king the moment she dies, the moment the previous crown, either king or queen, dies.

00:08:41.660 This is really in the lineage of the Church of England and the Protestant and making sure that there is a Protestant that sits on the throne, sir?

00:08:53.960 Do I overstate that?

00:08:55.580 Well, Steve, this is the 40th time a monarch has been crowned in Westminster Abbey.

00:09:04.740 And before it was a Protestant liturgy, and it's definitely a liturgy as much as it's anything else.

00:09:11.540 It's a liturgy.

00:09:12.440 It's a religious – it's a Christian religious service.

00:09:15.520 Before it was an Anglican liturgy with a few changes, but not so great many changes.

00:09:20.760 It was a Catholic liturgy.

00:09:22.460 The important thing I would suggest here to remember is that you're mentioning absolutely correctly that Charles was king the moment his mother, the late queen, died.

00:09:33.760 And the point about the coronation, I would suggest, in its historical context, isn't so much the literal coronation, the pudding of the crown, the symbolic power that is absolutely important.

00:09:47.380 It's the anointing that's behind it, that takes place behind the screen, shielded from the television cameras because of its intimate and private nature.

00:09:58.300 And that anointing can only be understood, I would suggest, within the Judeo-Christian context by going back to the Old Testament, by going back to Samuel and 1 Chronicles, where Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon king.

00:10:18.800 Those are the words of the anthem that was being played during that anointment process.

00:10:25.780 That is the point about this coronation.

00:10:28.400 It's an anointing.

00:10:29.720 And the anointment is an explicitly religious, explicitly Christian motif.

00:10:36.200 It's a chrism, which, of course, priests are anointed with chrism in the Catholic tradition when they're ordained priests.

00:10:45.040 We are all, as Catholics and Christians and Protestants as well, I think, anointed with chrism, either baptism or confirmation, depending on the liturgy, on the denomination.

00:11:00.120 But the chrism, the anointment, that's where it's all related, the Greek origin of the word there, to where Christ comes from as well.

00:11:10.820 It's the same significance.

00:11:12.560 All of this is held up and exalted in that ceremony.

00:11:16.660 So, you know, you're going to be talking a little later about the Christian nationalism aspect and the uniting of the Christian culture within the instruments of state.

00:11:26.420 I don't think it's better identified than within the English coronation liturgy that we saw today.

00:11:34.600 What – and by the way, we've got some other clips we're going to play that I think people will be quite interested in.

00:11:44.600 I want to go back.

00:11:45.720 We're going to get more to the ceremony itself, but I want to go to this Politico story.

00:11:49.520 And this is why for everybody, the board of policy, we've got a lot to go through the day.

00:11:54.060 Biden's interview, we're going to break it down.

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00:12:04.600 Of course, the MAGA.

00:12:06.640 One thing that happened last night on this Stephanie Ruhl exclusive interview, and you can see this where I put it up on Getter.

00:12:14.840 And don't put it up yet on the screen.

00:12:16.280 We'll get to this.

00:12:16.860 I don't want too much to credit.

00:12:18.600 But Biden essentially came out and said about the debt ceiling and everything, it is Biden and his regime versus the MAGA extremists.

00:12:28.200 That would be you.

00:12:29.700 As the creditors committee, it's game on now.

00:12:32.680 They've identified, and they're trying to come up with a short-term interim solution that we're not going to agree with, and we'll say why.

00:12:41.480 But Politico has got an incredible story called The Power Behind the Throne.

00:12:46.800 The Power Behind the Throne.

00:12:48.560 And in this – I actually lead in on Getter where I put it up, and I want – if Denver can put this up on the screen now.

00:12:56.360 The British administrative state reports to the crown, as it is from time immemorial, the true power in England.

00:13:02.820 They make the case of, Ben – and you were kind of part of this – that you've got parliament, but you have the British bureaucracy.

00:13:11.400 It's immovable, and there's many or more crown designees that are part of that permanent bureaucracy than the handful and very small handful from cabinet and subsecretaries that really control it.

00:13:27.220 And this is why Tony Blair and people have said from day one you can't get the British bureaucracy to move and that they're actually more loyal to the crown and the permanent administrative state than they are to any what they call transitory political trends.

00:13:42.380 Your comments – give me a minute on that before we go to break.

00:13:44.940 Steve, it's a very – it's this thing.

00:13:48.340 I mean, if anyone who's watched, yes, minister or yes, prime minister of the old British sitcom from the 80s will know the essence of this debate.

00:13:56.120 I actually take a slightly different view from the political article.

00:13:59.540 In an ideal situation, I actually believe the monarchy is perhaps part of the solution over overcoming the stubbornness and immovability of the civil service.

00:14:09.820 Because the ministers that the civil servants are obliged to obey are ministers of the crown.

00:14:17.620 They exercise their power, their responsibility, their authority, their legal authority as ministers of the crown in whom lies the ultimate sovereign power.

00:14:30.240 And, you know, we spoke about this indirectly, if you remember, Steve, when Boris Johnson resigned.

00:14:35.180 We spoke explicitly about him going to the queen, handing back the seals of office.

00:14:42.160 So even the prime minister himself.

00:14:45.300 Hang on for a second.

00:14:46.600 I want to get to all this.

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00:16:32.240 You will ever be queen?

00:16:36.420 No, I don't.

00:16:37.600 No.

00:16:38.520 Why do you think that?

00:16:39.580 I'd like to be a queen of people's hearts in people's hearts, but I don't see myself being queen of this country.

00:16:50.480 I don't think many people would want me to be queen.

00:16:52.760 Actually, when I say many people, I mean the establishment that I'm married into, because they've decided that I'm a non-starter.

00:17:01.400 Why do you think they've decided that?

00:17:06.600 Because I do things differently.

00:17:08.300 Because I don't go by a rule book.

00:17:10.580 Because I lead from the heart, not the head.

00:17:13.860 And albeit that's got me into trouble in my work, I understand that.

00:17:18.120 But someone's got to go out there and love people and show it.

00:17:21.100 So, Ben Harnwell, that is that famous interview that exploded over the battlefield that is the royal family many decades ago.

00:17:33.580 So, tell us about that.

00:17:34.520 And it's certainly from an American's viewpoint, particularly I know a lot of people are not big on Charles, is that his wingman, his queen, did not quite live up to Diana.

00:17:52.180 Give us your assessment of all this.

00:17:53.820 Well, I think the country divides itself pretty evenly to two halves on this.

00:18:00.940 There's one camp that will still be firmly very sentimental towards the prince of the former, I forget her correct former title, Diana, the Diana, Princess of Wales. 0.71

00:18:13.240 And the other half think that she was sort of manipulative, crazy, and emotionally unstable. 0.99

00:18:20.680 And she was damaging fundamentally to the long-term prospects of the monarchy.

00:18:25.960 I would probably fall into that second camp.

00:18:28.540 I don't know if I could give you an impartial reading of Diana.

00:18:32.820 But she is, and she will remain, the mother of the future king, William, eventually.

00:18:39.760 And I think will be warranted by posterity in history some respect because of that fact, if only because of that fact.

00:18:50.680 I want to get back to the administrative state because we're going to get into a lot of the politics here that have broken just over the last 24 or 48 hours.

00:18:57.160 You can see now the outlines of what this campaign is going to be about.

00:19:01.620 And President Trump, let me reiterate, President Trump has many times, even overnight, the administrative state, their legal aspect of it, they're trying to take him out through lawfare.

00:19:12.680 He's identified even more than the CCP, and I would argue the CCP is infiltrated, and you can see this in the situation of Miles Guo in the Justice Department, in Higginbotham and all of that, the depth of corruption and involvement by the CCP in the administrative state here.

00:19:31.080 Politico makes the argument that it's the crown, that the power behind the crown is the civil service, be actually the administrative state.

00:19:40.500 We know, and for all you guys who are James Bond fans and see all these movies, that is the administrative and deep state at work, right?

00:19:49.280 That's the British, MI5, MI6, very close to the FBI, very close to the CIA.

00:19:54.840 You've got the Five Eyes program, all of that.

00:19:57.560 But this article says that, hey, they look at Parliament, and they've got great quotes from Tony Blair and Borussia, all of them, saying that they couldn't make any changes.

00:20:12.100 In fact, they just turfed out, I think, one of the most prominent members of SUNAC's cabinet for, quote-unquote, bullying because the administrative state basically reported that, oh, he screamed at us.

00:20:24.240 He said bad things to us.

00:20:25.740 We weren't doing what he said.

00:20:27.100 We weren't going to do what he said.

00:20:28.580 And he got angry, and now he's gone.

00:20:30.720 They're not gone.

00:20:31.440 He's gone.

00:20:32.760 Talk to me about the administrative state and the crown.

00:20:35.160 And this is, people go, well, these people have no power.

00:20:37.540 It's just all performative.

00:20:39.360 It's not performative.

00:20:40.440 And I'm not saying they don't have, obviously, their constitutional monarch, but the reality is, and anybody who watched the series The Crown saw the folks around them were hardwired into not just the British establishment, but to the British civil service administrative state and deep state, sir.

00:21:01.660 I mean, Steve, it's true to a certain extent, but for me, the problem with the British deep state establishment isn't so much the fact that you have all these Sir Humphreys walking in lopstep, frustrating the ability of an elected government to fulfil its manifested commitments.

00:21:24.460 The problem is that, you know, since Margaret Thatcher, I don't think this country of either particular party, we've had a prime minister with the stones to face down the civil service.

00:21:34.800 It was said of Margaret Thatcher that she couldn't meet an institution wanting to hit it with her handbag.

00:21:41.480 Great.

00:21:41.940 You know, Donald Trump was a bit like that as well.

00:21:44.700 You know, he did his own thing.

00:21:46.680 He often didn't, neither Thatcher nor Donald Trump often took advice.

00:21:51.900 They did their own thing.

00:21:52.680 But the point was that even when they were wrong, they were doing what they actually wanted to do and not that sort of blancmange-like blob that surrounds elected office insisting that its way is the best.

00:22:06.740 No, Steve, the problem with the British establishment is that we need a prime minister who has a spine and is willing to face down the civil service and is willing to sack people if they frustrate an elected world.

00:22:19.840 And I would say this, not only with a pseudo-conservative government like the one we have at the moment, but even the Labour Party, you know, which will probably win the next election, Keir Starmer.

00:22:30.360 What we cannot have, I think it's disgraceful, is a situation like you were mentioning with Dominic Robb, the deputy prime minister, who was forced out because he bullied civil servants.

00:22:41.900 You know, that's just, it's disgusting.

00:22:43.980 It really is appalling.

00:22:45.180 I mean, I'm not very fond of the guy himself. 0.99

00:22:48.060 From all accounts, he is a bully. 0.97

00:22:49.440 But good. 0.97

00:22:49.900 He's a bully elected by the people to fulfil an agenda called Manifesto Commitments. 0.79

00:22:58.500 Nobody elected civil servants.

00:23:01.280 If they don't like it, they should quit the civil service and either go and work for an NGO or one of the vast organisations within the apparatus of what they call civil society,

00:23:14.040 which leeches off the public teat anyway in terms of funding and financing, or perish the thought they could go out and get a private sector job and work those sort of harder, longer hours,

00:23:25.840 get some sort of grease on their hands like ordinary, regular people.

00:23:30.580 And then they'd be very welcome to their political opinions.

00:23:33.280 But I think it's objectionable that people without any electoral mandate can frustrate the will of a government, even when the government is wrong.

00:23:41.820 If you, I want to tie this back to domestic politics and still the power of the British establishment.

00:23:50.120 If you've traveled around the world on business or if you've lived in other countries on business, the United States, you know, we're a colony of the British Empire.

00:23:59.740 We're still a little provincial.

00:24:02.380 D.C. is not like the big center of international thought, even New York.

00:24:06.380 New York has tons of hedge fund guys and it's the global capital, particularly of finance.

00:24:14.180 But London is much more of the global city because you still have everybody from the Empire and everybody from Western Europe is there.

00:24:22.120 That's why Ron DeSantis and Ron DeSantis today, they're leaking that he was going to do an exploratory committee.

00:24:28.680 Now they're saying he's going to full bore and by June, he's going to be all in.

00:24:33.220 That's that's breaking, I think, on access and a couple of sites today that what they leaked over the last couple of days of this of the exploratory committees out.

00:24:43.140 He's going to full bore.

00:24:44.800 I can't emphasize a size enough.

00:24:47.460 The lack of momentum among the business community now about his flop in his flop in the UK, this meeting he went over there and had where he met the heads of of what's called the city of London, which is their Wall Street in British industry and the consulting class, the McKinsey's, the Booz Allen's, all the heads, the proper heads, 50 to 100 people where he absolutely flopped.

00:25:13.600 And that's had a chilling effect on certain of his donors.

00:25:16.680 Other donors are just so hard in and what they've seen on Trump and particularly Trump's Trump's momentum in this in this primary that they're more than ever in back of DeSantis.

00:25:29.300 And quite frankly, I think he's got his head is now he's going to go do it.

00:25:32.860 Um, and this is this is shows you that this is going to be a huge throwdown.

00:25:39.560 This primary is essentially over, but DeSantis, the money in back of DeSantis, there's still a never Trump movement.

00:25:45.640 And one of the reasons there's a massive never Trump movement is Donald J.

00:25:50.320 Trump, like Thatcher, took on when you say the establishment, he took on the administrative state.

00:25:57.200 And he's designated, he said now, and if you look at his even truths over the last overnight about Bill Barr in this, he has laid down that they are the biggest enemy of the people, even more so than the Chinese Communist Party, and that he is going to take it on and dismantle it.

00:26:17.940 But for all the audience who are fervent believers in President Trump in part of the Trump movement, you have to understand it's game on now.

00:26:30.820 This is this is one side is going to win this and one side is going to lose this.

00:26:35.100 And when I say win or lose, I just don't mean at the ballot box, because as I told President Trump, when you win your third, your third, the third time and take your second term every day against this administrative state is going to be Stalingrad.

00:26:52.720 They're they're they're going to dig in like nothing else.

00:26:55.300 So anybody out there in the audience that just thinks, you know, he can get by the primary because the next five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years are going to be a struggle.

00:27:09.380 I'd love to give you a message of we got the sunlit uplands right here and all we got to do is win Iowa, New Hampshire, and that's all going to be great.

00:27:17.720 Then he's going to go win, you know, win 276 electoral votes in in November of 2024.

00:27:24.800 And that's what we find now. And one of the ways you can tell that is Joe Biden throwing down last night.

00:27:30.380 Joe Biden didn't identify Trump as the problem, didn't identify the Republican Party as a problem, didn't identify.

00:27:36.020 He identified the MAGA Republicans, the MAGA extremists.

00:27:40.440 That would be you. They are there to thwart President Trump.

00:27:45.120 But in thwarting President Trump, they understand what President Trump is represents now.

00:27:49.840 And that is a mass movement of populist nationalism who has the administrative state in their gun sites.

00:27:56.000 So it is game on. I'm a whole Ben quickly through the break.

00:28:00.540 I want to update on Ukraine. We got a lot to go through today.

00:28:03.220 I'm going to get to we're going to play a bunch of clips. I'm going to talk about this interview last night.

00:28:06.380 And also, they put the moms for liberty. They understand the parental rights movement.

00:28:10.740 They're tripling down on the grooming.

00:28:13.780 They're tripling down on the radical sexual ideology in the schools. 0.88

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00:28:21.980 Game on. 2024 coming into full high relief here this morning in the war room.

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00:29:55.400 Is he fit to be president of the United States?

00:30:03.500 Is Donald Trump fit to be president?

00:30:06.320 This is the way I'll answer that, Geraldo.

00:30:08.020 Which is, if you believe in his policies, what he's advertising is his policies,

00:30:14.880 he's the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them.

00:30:19.080 He does not have the discipline.

00:30:22.580 He does not have the ability for strategic thinking and linear thinking or setting priorities or how to get things done in the system.

00:30:32.260 It is a horror show when he's left to his own devices.

00:30:36.900 And so, you may want his policies, but Trump will not deliver Trump policies.

00:30:43.540 He will deliver chaos and, if anything, lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be.

00:30:53.040 As a mother from Arizona, we've sent $170 billion to Ukraine.

00:30:58.040 While we have a wide open border and we have drug cartels running our state, we can't afford to do that anymore.

00:31:04.160 We need to invest in America.

00:31:05.380 And I believe that the first way out of this war to bring the peacemakers in,

00:31:10.180 and I understand that Prime Minister Orban has offered up this beautiful city for peace talks,

00:31:14.860 the only way to stop that war is to turn off the money to it.

00:31:18.240 And I believe that in America we need to turn off the money to this war and bring together Zelensky and Putin. 0.62

00:31:24.760 Sit them down here in this beautiful country, in this beautiful city,

00:31:29.040 and sit them at a table and say, come to peace.

00:31:31.620 We need peace in this world.

00:31:32.800 The mothers demand peace for our children.

00:31:36.060 I thank you so much, Hungary, for inviting me.

00:31:44.400 Carrie Lake.

00:31:46.240 Oh, my Lord.

00:31:47.960 She goes over to Europe, and they're blowing heads up.

00:31:50.540 She's in London right now, and she's going to be on Nigel's show and Piers Morgan.

00:31:56.440 And we're going to get more of that, maybe even try to get Carrie on here. 0.75

00:32:00.940 Ben Hornwell, I want to go back to the politics of all this, and I want to ask you about Ukraine.

00:32:06.440 But I'd like your thoughts about this war against the administrative state,

00:32:09.860 because one of the reasons that the U.K. punches way above their weight.

00:32:16.740 People have to understand this around the world, way above their weight, way above their weight.

00:32:21.840 It's a quite powerful nation.

00:32:24.760 Don't look at its GDP.

00:32:26.440 Don't look.

00:32:26.780 It's quite powerful, just institutionally, culturally, where it's dialed in throughout the world,

00:32:31.860 what they've done for centuries.

00:32:33.720 And their bureaucracy and civil servants is even as bad or not worse as ours is being dug in

00:32:44.040 and also being radicalized.

00:32:46.760 And you couldn't, you know, you've not really had a prime minister except for Thatcher,

00:32:51.880 and she went after him hard.

00:32:53.780 And eventually they got her.

00:32:55.660 Eventually they got her.

00:32:56.860 It wasn't John Majors.

00:32:57.840 It wasn't the, it was the pencil necks in the Tory party because they didn't want to take it anymore. 1.00

00:33:02.200 And most of them sided with the administrative state.

00:33:05.020 They finally eventually got her after a decade or so.

00:33:08.300 Give us your thoughts, Ben.

00:33:11.180 Well, Steve, you're absolutely right.

00:33:12.600 I mean, the U.K., which is a very powerful nation, is somewhat mismanaged by its civil service.

00:33:20.740 The parallel, which I see you drawing as we've been talking about this over the last half hour

00:33:27.580 between the United States and the U.K., is I think actually the U.S., specifically Donald Trump,

00:33:35.000 seems to be slightly ahead of the game now with respect to the British Conservative Party.

00:33:40.800 And specifically I'm talking about probably the only announcement that he's made since the 2016 cycle

00:33:48.860 that really has to be engaged and committed to a second mandate, a second administration,

00:33:56.160 or a third presidential election victory, whichever way you want to look at it.

00:34:00.720 And that's his thinking out loud that he might revisit Schedule F,

00:34:08.040 which was an executive order he brought in, I think, towards the close of his first administration,

00:34:15.600 rescinded by Joe Biden.

00:34:18.520 And this Schedule F would technically give the president the right to dismiss up to around,

00:34:26.120 well, technically up to 2 million, I think, federal employees.

00:34:29.200 But more realistically, I think the figure is conventionally held to be around 50,000 civil servants.

00:34:35.620 Now, of course, it's not even remotely necessary to sack 50,000 civil servants

00:34:40.700 who are blocking the agenda of an elected government.

00:34:44.360 But it's only to start sacking a few and let the rest realise that they're in exactly the same vulnerable position.

00:34:52.300 Because if it's one thing, I mean, if you divide people into two categories,

00:34:57.500 one is the entrepreneurial category and the other is the civil service category.

00:35:02.020 Entrepreneurs are excited by challenges, by the opportunity to make fortunes.

00:35:06.700 Civil servants are not.

00:35:08.100 They're excited by the ability of having a job for life, fundamentally.

00:35:12.680 They loathe instability and they embrace sort of 40 years in the same desk job.

00:35:20.600 That's what gets these people ticking.

00:35:22.220 And the idea of losing that privilege will terrify them.

00:35:25.940 So this, I think, this idea of bringing back Schedule F,

00:35:31.580 something that we don't have really in the UK that I mentioned,

00:35:34.600 we should have it a few moments or so ago,

00:35:37.200 could actually make a heck of a difference to the second Trump administration.

00:35:42.580 Oh, no.

00:35:42.940 Because it will make...

00:35:43.940 That's what the fight...

00:35:44.880 Yeah.

00:35:45.660 This is what the fight's about.

00:35:46.740 Right now, this is why we're training, I should say, curating the 4,000 that hit the beach right away,

00:35:52.600 the 4,000 political appointees that do not have to be confirmed by the Senate.

00:35:57.260 That's the key.

00:35:58.880 Cash for telling these guys with Schedule F, 100%, they're going to be blown out, you know,

00:36:03.880 I believe more than 50,000.

00:36:06.180 That's what Trump's going to war with the administration.

00:36:08.020 And they know that.

00:36:09.300 This gets back to what happened at J6 the other day.

00:36:13.120 This goes back to Jack Smith and Merrick Garland.

00:36:15.160 This goes back to the deal.

00:36:17.320 They had an immunity deal last night with these, I don't know,

00:36:19.780 these, the Trump electors right down in Georgia.

00:36:25.980 The administrative state and their deep state elements are after Trump.

00:36:30.020 Trump calls them right out and says,

00:36:31.840 you're the...

00:36:33.260 No person in American history and any authority has ever said

00:36:38.840 that the administrative state and the deep state is the enemy of the people

00:36:42.940 and I'm going to take it apart.

00:36:45.160 I mean, I highlighted that CPAC speech and they went absolutely bananas

00:36:50.920 that some advisor to the president in the White House would say that.

00:36:55.380 And clearly we did not get enough done in the first term

00:36:58.160 that he's going to get done in the second term.

00:37:00.880 And this is why when you look at, what is it,

00:37:03.300 is it Project Hurricane or Operation Hurricane?

00:37:06.180 You see a crossfire hurricane, which was MI6, MI5, working with the CIA and the FBI

00:37:15.080 to essentially stop Trump.

00:37:18.600 That's in 16.

00:37:20.720 They're much more detailed and much more focused on it today.

00:37:23.600 But Trump's coming for him in a big way in that part of the British establishment

00:37:29.760 and the reports to the crown.

00:37:30.980 I remember Charles is this radical, you know, he's a climate change guy

00:37:35.840 because he's not the sharp, he's not the brightest bulb you're going to,

00:37:39.700 you know, in the light fixture.

00:37:41.960 Um, I want to go, I want to get your thoughts on, on Ukraine

00:37:46.800 because Carrie Lake for a person of that political stature, 0.94

00:37:53.680 who's essentially the real governor of, of, uh, of Arizona.

00:37:57.740 And I know is, it will be on the short list of potential vice presidential candidates

00:38:03.620 for President Trump.

00:38:04.960 And she could go and win a Senate seat in, in, in, uh, Arizona right now.

00:38:09.000 Uh, to, for her to go to Hungary at Budapest and give a speech

00:38:13.520 where she ends the speech with, you have to defund the Ukraine war.

00:38:18.220 That's how we get people to the peace table is shocking.

00:38:20.840 And they're in meltdown over there.

00:38:22.720 They're in absolute meltdown over there.

00:38:25.160 Give us your thoughts on, on that and where we stand.

00:38:27.860 Because I think the, the, the Russian military hit Kiev today with phosphorus bombs.

00:38:34.220 I mean, they're getting ready.

00:38:34.960 The spring offensive already, there's a big story in BBC of Maripol

00:38:39.480 at the steelworks of the last Ukrainians that held out.

00:38:43.500 It's pretty, pretty awful, pretty bloody.

00:38:45.940 You got Bakhmut with the mercenaries.

00:38:47.780 The Wagner group is sitting there going, uh, we can't take the city.

00:38:51.520 We can't cut off the, the, the road of life.

00:38:54.000 They call it.

00:38:55.060 Uh, the Russian military is going to come in here.

00:38:56.800 And he, of course he's blaming the Russian big army.

00:38:59.880 It's nasty.

00:39:00.780 And it's going to get a lot nastier in the Ukraine until somebody cuts the money off and 0.66

00:39:04.820 forces them to the negotiating table.

00:39:07.160 Uh, many more Ukrainians are going to die in this. 0.95

00:39:11.480 That's just, uh, many more Ukrainian cities are going to be leveled in this.

00:39:15.600 Uh, Ben Harnwell.

00:39:17.760 Well, I think what Carrie Lake did in Hungary was, you know, we can only be applauded. 0.96

00:39:23.080 It's what we've been saying here on the war room since the beginning of the war, that this

00:39:27.460 war is going to end fundamentally when the United States says it's not going to, uh, financially

00:39:32.760 support the Ukrainian effort any longer.

00:39:35.000 And until that happens, uh, until Joe Biden calls it a day with fighting for Ukraine's

00:39:41.860 liberty down to the last Ukrainian, um, Carrie Lake is absolutely right. 1.00

00:39:46.560 And she's right here.

00:39:47.540 Fundamentally, I mean, it's in the best interests of the, the U S taxpayer.

00:39:51.960 Um, but beyond that, on the human, on the humanitarian issue, it's in the best interest of the ordinary

00:39:56.980 Ukrainian who has very little voice in this as well.

00:40:00.000 But if you think about it, Steve, if you were an ordinary Ukrainian, um, and you know, and

00:40:05.700 you weren't one of the millions that fled to the border at the very outset of the war,

00:40:10.980 they say not fleeing Putin, but fleeing, um, the, the, the, the call up that was taking

00:40:16.600 place, um, in Ukraine, you would be hoping that, that, that, that external pressure would

00:40:22.200 come around and gently encourage your government, um, to sit down and negotiate peace with the

00:40:28.060 international community in the hope, not unreasonable hope that the international community at those

00:40:32.880 negotiations will, will put a lot of pressure on Russia to obtain the best deal for Ukraine.

00:40:38.480 What you're not going to want to see is, is, is, is Biden do a quick press release, um,

00:40:44.560 do a bit of virtue signaling, um, and can, you know, and you're left seeing that if you're

00:40:49.000 fighting age, uh, your, your, your family, your, your male members of your family, the

00:40:53.400 male members of your friends, and, and fundamentally, ultimately, you yourself will be called up to

00:40:58.340 go through the meat grinder.

00:41:00.240 Nobody in Ukraine wants this.

00:41:02.560 They want a good deal for Ukraine, obviously.

00:41:05.880 Um, but, you know, but, but I think Carrie Lake, uh, what, what she did there is, is, is in

00:41:10.920 the best interest of, of the American taxpayer, and I repeat, the best interests of, of the,

00:41:16.200 the Ukrainian working guy, and, and that is absolutely important to remember that.

00:41:22.580 Ben, how do people, uh, how do people get to you?

00:41:24.740 How do they get to you for your content?

00:41:27.340 Thanks, Steve.

00:41:28.080 I'm on Getter.

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00:42:13.480 Now we have Joe Allen and Ben and Natalie, others giving exclusive content, and there's

00:42:18.500 going to be a lot of things we're going to be breaking here, particularly as we're revving

00:42:21.960 up the investigative, uh, side of this.

00:42:23.980 And Natalie is, uh, even more in, uh, in, in, in dialed into what's happening in the

00:42:29.060 Imperial Capitol here about all that.

00:42:31.480 Ben, uh, thank you very much.

00:42:32.700 Honored to have you on here, brother.

00:42:33.840 Thank you for taking time when explaining the, uh, ceremony of the coronation of King

00:42:38.780 Charles the third today.

00:42:41.060 Thank you so much, Steve.

00:42:42.040 And if I may close with God save the King.

00:42:46.200 Thank you, sir.

00:42:47.540 How, how long is the bill bar, uh, thing?

00:42:50.180 Is this, maybe I'll open with bill bar.

00:42:52.740 Here's where I'm open with bill bar.

00:42:54.040 I'll tell you, I'll take this, um, go ahead and play bill bar as we go out and then I'm

00:42:58.520 going to come back after a short commercial.

00:42:59.920 Let's play.

00:43:00.400 I want you to hear bill bar again.

00:43:04.660 Okay.

00:43:05.080 That would be playing a clip, not the out music.

00:43:06.840 Anyway, stop.

00:43:07.480 Don't do it.

00:43:08.200 Don't do it.

00:43:08.840 We blew it.

00:43:10.020 Take a, take a deep breath.

00:43:11.080 Everybody's good.

00:43:12.420 Let me just take the, let's go to commercial break and I'll play bar coming back out.

00:43:16.240 Um, and the reason I want to play bar again, I want to get you not more fired up.

00:43:22.920 I want you to understand what the play is here.

00:43:26.120 The, the, the last readout of these folks is Trumpism without Trump.

00:43:30.940 That's all a lie.

00:43:32.400 Oh yeah.

00:43:32.980 It's his policies.

00:43:34.040 Yeah.

00:43:34.220 His policies.

00:43:34.960 Yeah.

00:43:35.160 We're going to give you the policies, but you can't have Trump.

00:43:37.920 Trump, Trump can't really execute.

00:43:39.520 He's gone as far as he can go.

00:43:40.540 You need, you need, uh, you need others.

00:43:43.200 You need a Chris Christie or you need Vivek or you need, uh, Asa.

00:43:48.480 We'll talk about that next in the war room.

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00:47:17.960 Really?

00:47:18.780 Did you know Ron DeSantis backed deep cuts to Social Security and Medicare?

00:47:23.240 Ron DeSantis?

00:47:23.960 Yeah, he voted to cut Social Security or Medicare.

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00:47:33.580 I thought DeSantis was one of the good ones.

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00:47:39.820 America needs Trump.

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00:47:45.560 Is he fit to be president of the United States?

00:47:48.120 Is Donald Trump fit to be president?

00:47:49.420 This is the way I'll answer that, Geraldo.

00:47:53.140 Which is, if you believe in his policies, what he's advertising is his policies, he's the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them.

00:48:04.240 He does not have the discipline.

00:48:06.160 He does not have the ability for strategic thinking and linear thinking or setting priorities or how to get things done in the system.

00:48:16.720 It is a horror show when he's left to his own devices.

00:48:21.540 And so you may want his policies, but Trump will not deliver Trump policies.

00:48:28.160 He will deliver chaos and, if anything, lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be.

00:48:37.580 The last thing this country needs, after all we've been through, is a manufactured crisis.

00:48:43.100 And that's what this is, a manufactured crisis.

00:48:46.000 And that's what it is from beginning to end.

00:48:48.340 It's a manufactured crisis driven by the MAGA Republicans in the Congress. 0.83

00:48:52.260 Look, instead, we should be debating a vision of our country's future.

00:48:57.340 Their vision versus our vision.

00:48:59.260 Totally legitimate.

00:49:00.760 Totally legitimate.

00:49:02.340 And it's legitimate.

00:49:02.980 The American people said we like their vision better than ours.

00:49:05.180 But debate the vision and whether or not we're going to take our country backward and certainly not whether or not we're going to default on our debt.

00:49:14.580 And I remind you that under the previous president, Republicans voted three times to increase the debt limit.

00:49:22.920 Three times.

00:49:24.760 No one's ever not voted to increase the debt limit.

00:49:29.500 Okay.

00:49:30.900 You are front and center, the audience.

00:49:33.600 I told you this would happen.

00:49:34.740 And I promised you this would happen.

00:49:37.040 And now it's happening.

00:49:39.160 The debate is that guy right there is the illegitimate head of the regime currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue who understands they stole this.

00:49:49.320 Okay.

00:49:49.560 They got that. 0.98

00:49:50.440 They're not stupid. 1.00

00:49:54.640 And it's you. 1.00

00:49:55.560 It's him versus two visions.

00:49:56.860 He says, why are we talking about vision?

00:49:57.820 We're talking about the vision.

00:49:58.600 But you can't take away the main thing that keeps this entire apparatus going forward.

00:50:10.860 Now it's time for the adults.

00:50:12.680 And the Wall Street Journal has a huge piece up right now that Biden's got a tough month in front of him because of the invasion on the southern border and the debt crisis.

00:50:22.240 Both of those are are make his month tough because of you.

00:50:30.260 That's all the reporting of Michael Yan and Ben Burkwam and Oscar Blue Ramirez and Todd Benzman and months and months and now years of covering that so that you would be informed and be prepared and make sure that, you know, everybody in the Republican Party now knows this.

00:50:47.100 This invasion of what they've done to the debt ceiling, they're going to try to talk about everything except what's important.

00:50:57.400 And here's what's important.

00:50:59.040 We can't let Leviathan, the administrative state, these radical Democrats in the combination with the oligarchs in Silicon Valley in these these lords of Wall Street to take our country and to destroy our country, destroy the sovereignty of our country, destroy American citizens.

00:51:19.640 We can't.

00:51:20.900 And we've got leverage and they know we have leverage.

00:51:23.720 And that's why they hate you.

00:51:25.020 OK, and they do hate you.

00:51:27.020 We have leverage and we're going to use that leverage right now.

00:51:32.140 They're worming.

00:51:32.860 I'm telling you, it's twenty four seven right now.

00:51:35.260 What they're doing is they're trying to get an extension.

00:51:38.040 Try to get just a tiny, just give me a tiny, a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny bump to the debt ceiling.

00:51:44.600 Get us past June because, you know, the cash ain't there from the taxes because our economy.

00:51:50.560 The answer is no.

00:51:52.520 In fact, let me give that's the short answer.

00:51:54.980 The long answer, the long answer, the long answer, which I can't use on a family show, but I'll give you a close to this.

00:52:00.660 Hell no.

00:52:02.600 We're not budging an inch.

00:52:03.920 You're not getting one.

00:52:04.960 You're not getting one piece of oxygen here.

00:52:07.880 Not one piece of oxygen.

00:52:09.340 And he says in the Stephanie Ruhl thing, you know, Kevin McCarthy is a good man.

00:52:14.140 Kevin McCarthy is an honest man, but he's captured by these 15 radicals and the ultra mega extremist.

00:52:19.900 If you think that's the worst thing you're going to be called over the next couple of months, you got another thing coming.

00:52:26.200 This is why they're trying to take Trump out, because they understand that in back of Trump now is a true movement.

00:52:34.720 And this is what Bill Barr and Vivek and all these guys, you're going to keep hearing it over and over again.

00:52:39.760 National Review is saying, yeah, yeah, you know, the policies, Trump's got some good policies.

00:52:44.400 Yeah, yeah, those policies, they got some, some, you know, some of those policies are really good.

00:52:47.960 But Trump's not the guy, actually, he's going as far as he can.

00:52:51.100 Trump can't execute.

00:52:52.100 That's, that's the problem.

00:52:53.020 We, we, we want those policies.

00:52:55.020 And all we want you to do is have, you know, be smart.

00:52:57.880 Let's, let's get a younger guy. 0.99

00:52:59.040 Let's get somebody who's more organized. 0.99

00:53:01.340 To hell with you. 0.91

00:53:05.160 Right now, there is no Trump's policies without Trump. 0.99

00:53:10.320 You, you, when he walked into that courtroom, I say he looked like a Viking chieftain.

00:53:14.600 That's what you need right now. 0.97

00:53:15.820 You need a savage. 0.98

00:53:16.840 Okay, we need a savage. 0.95

00:53:20.400 Because we're not playing beanbag with these people.

00:53:24.360 You've seen what they're prepared to do.

00:53:28.120 From sending the FBI to roll up the folks saying rosaries.

00:53:33.740 To sending a letter to the, to the folks in Arizona.

00:53:35.820 If you do, if you do a canvas, we're going to put you in jail.

00:53:38.720 They use any part of the administrative state to crush you financially.

00:53:43.300 To destroy your family.

00:53:45.240 To put you in prison. 1.00

00:53:46.840 To do all of it.

00:53:49.180 So they can destroy the sovereignty of the greatest republic in the history of mankind.

00:53:56.040 Remember, you're now at the table.

00:53:58.300 Do we get a hundred seats?

00:53:59.580 No.

00:53:59.800 Do we get 50 seats?

00:54:00.860 No.

00:54:01.180 We got what we got.

00:54:02.460 And now it's time for you to dig in.

00:54:05.080 Because we're going to about to see on a test of wills who's tougher.

00:54:09.920 Are we tougher or are they tougher?

00:54:12.480 And I hear a lot of, oh, we got to go do this.

00:54:14.460 We got to be doing this.

00:54:15.360 We got to do it.

00:54:15.640 I got all that.

00:54:16.460 I hear it.

00:54:17.080 Okay.

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Bannon's War Room - May 06, 2023

Episode 2713： The Coronation Of King Charles; Biden Pledges To Dismantle MAGA

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