Bannon's War Room - Episode 2720： The Fight For The Debt Ceiling

00:00:00.960 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:05.880 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:07.960 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 Here's the time I got a free shot

00:00:12.240 at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.240 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.240 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:18.640 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:20.360 but you're not gonna stop it.

00:00:21.280 It's going to happen.

00:00:22.560 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:25.920 MAGA Media.

00:00:27.360 I wish in my soul, I wish,

00:00:29.880 that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.720 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.560 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:39.680 this country will be saved.

00:00:42.760 War Room.

00:00:43.760 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:51.360 Question one, did Mr. Trump rape Ms. Carroll?

00:00:54.240 The jury voted no.

00:00:56.600 On the question, did Mr. Trump sexually abuse Ms. Carroll?

00:01:01.800 Yes, the jury said.

00:01:04.080 Moving down to question four,

00:01:05.640 Ms. Carroll was injured as a result of Mr. Trump's conduct.

00:01:10.480 The jury said yes.

00:01:12.080 And if yes, inserting an amount of $2 million,

00:01:15.560 a monetary judgment against the former president.

00:01:19.440 Keep in mind,

00:01:20.480 keep in mind,

00:01:20.880 Eugene Carroll's attorneys did not ask for a specific amount of money.

00:01:24.400 They left it to the jury.

00:01:27.240 Moving on to the question,

00:01:28.480 Mr. Trump's conduct was willfully or wantonly negligent, reckless,

00:01:32.440 or done with a conscious disregard of the rights?

00:01:35.640 Yes, the jury said.

00:01:37.920 And moving down to the defamation question,

00:01:40.560 there were ultimately five questions related to that accusation.

00:01:44.040 Did Ms. Carroll prove by preponderance of the evidence that Mr. Trump's statement was defamatory?

00:01:49.520 The jury said yes, it was.

00:01:51.520 Did Ms. Carroll prove by clear and convincing evidence that Mr. Trump's statement was false?

00:01:57.120 The jury said yes.

00:01:58.640 Mr. Trump made the statements with actual malice.

00:02:01.200 The jury, yes.

00:02:03.920 And then we're still waiting on some of these other questions.

00:02:06.880 But again, the big headline there,

00:02:09.840 the jury finding that Mr. Trump did sexually abuse Ms. Carroll.

00:02:14.800 There should be any liability findings.

00:02:16.320 So we'll pursue it.

00:02:17.920 We'll pursue that.

00:02:22.160 That's what I just said about the appeal, right?

00:02:23.840 We're going to be appealing it.

00:02:24.560 But she claimed all along that she had been raped by Donald Trump.

00:02:27.600 That's what this case was all about.

00:02:28.800 Can you talk about Trump's statement not to attend his trial and not to testify?

00:02:32.960 Yeah, this was a circus atmosphere.

00:02:35.360 And having him be here would be more of a circus.

00:02:38.000 And again, what I said in the summation yesterday, you know, reigns true, holds true.

00:02:42.320 It's that, you know, what more could he say other than I didn't do it?

00:02:45.200 And he said that on the road here.

00:02:46.320 He, you know, it's hard to prove a negative.

00:02:47.840 Molly, I could say you stole my pen, prove you didn't do it.

00:02:50.720 How would you prove it?

00:02:51.760 To say you didn't do it, right?

00:02:52.880 I mean, it's sort of where we're at.

00:02:54.400 So, you know, it's it's it's very simplistic to say, oh, he should have testified.

00:02:58.400 He had nothing to say other than what he's already said on the road.

00:03:01.600 So we talked a little bit about how perplexing the verdict was.

00:03:05.280 I'm well, thank you.

00:03:06.320 How are you?

00:03:06.720 Good seeing you.

00:03:07.280 Good seeing you.

00:03:08.960 How does that play in the appeal?

00:03:10.560 The fact that she did a rape case all along.

00:03:12.800 Yeah, I think it's an inconsistent verdict.

00:03:15.600 Right.

00:03:15.920 And it's something that obviously will be another issue for appeal.

00:03:19.040 But Jim, the issue for the appeals were laid really months ago when when things like,

00:03:23.520 you know, Donald Trump's attempt to have the dress tested for DNA after they sent it into

00:03:28.160 a lab and didn't come up with semen.

00:03:29.920 I think that's something that was important.

00:03:32.000 The fact that the Reid Hoffman, the Democratic financier,

00:03:35.920 you know, who Miss Carol was not candid about when she testified initially under oath in her

00:03:40.720 deposition, you know, that should come into this case.

00:03:44.080 The access Hollywood tapes should not have come into this case.

00:03:46.640 There's a federal rule called 403 that balances out inflammatory and prejudicial things.

00:03:51.360 And that certainly was one of them.

00:03:52.400 So but there's plenty of issues to appeal.

00:03:54.080 And look, that's what happens, right?

00:03:56.240 You know, we're we're in one sense gratified.

00:03:59.360 And I know some people in this camp are very happy that, you know, the rape claim was rejected.

00:04:04.480 But, you know, I'm not.

00:04:05.920 And I am happy about that, certainly.

00:04:07.920 But I'm not happy that he was liable for anything whatsoever,

00:04:11.280 because on this evidence, I didn't think he should have been.

00:04:13.040 Just joins us.

00:04:14.320 Brendan, what does this mean for 2024?

00:04:16.320 Can you adequately make a prediction in what is it?

00:04:19.520 It's May of 2023.

00:04:22.560 Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to note in 2015 at this time,

00:04:25.440 Donald Trump was in single digits.

00:04:26.800 So you're right.

00:04:27.280 A lot can change.

00:04:28.400 But I think if we're if we're expecting this to dethrone Donald Trump,

00:04:32.560 we're going to have to start seeing a lot of evidence of change of how Republican voters

00:04:36.960 think.

00:04:37.280 And I don't know that we can really bank on that.

00:04:39.760 I mean, the first thing, obviously, to look for, we know Donald Trump is going to deny,

00:04:43.520 as he already has, what's going on here.

00:04:46.000 But are any of his opponents going to say anything about this?

00:04:48.800 I mean, this should be the type of disqualifying event for the highest office in the land,

00:04:55.040 you would think, in any normal circumstances.

00:04:57.040 Obviously, we're in a different place, but it should at least be obvious that this is an

00:05:00.560 opening, perhaps, for somebody running against Donald Trump to raise this question.

00:05:05.360 I'm very skeptical that any of them are going to do that.

00:05:07.920 A lot of them are, frankly, afraid of Donald Trump, afraid of his voters.

00:05:12.560 Chris Christie?

00:05:14.400 Chris Christie certainly may.

00:05:15.600 And I'll be interested to see if he does.

00:05:17.360 Somebody somewhere needs to not just let this be a blip, because otherwise it will be,

00:05:22.320 especially among Republican-based primary voters. We often, I think, fool ourselves into thinking

00:05:28.480 that this type of information floods through to Republican primary voters, and it's all that

00:05:34.080 they're seeing. It's probably not something that they're going to see a lot of, frankly,

00:05:36.880 unless somebody running against Donald Trump forces him to confront it. And so far,

00:05:42.560 we haven't seen a lot of people. Obviously, they didn't do that during the Alvin Bragg indictment.

00:05:47.120 In fact, they rushed to his defense.

00:05:49.040 Is this going to be another situation where they rushed to his defense? And we're going to have

00:05:52.560 to see. That is obviously the very first thing that we need to keep an eye on.

00:05:55.760 So Roberta Kaplan has spoken to reporters. She said all of, we are very happy. And that's it.

00:06:01.280 E. Jean Carroll did not say anything to reporters, at least not at the microphone. She might have 0.72

00:06:05.120 said something when she was amidst that giant gaggle of reporters as she was trying to get in the car.

00:06:10.640 But I want to ask you about the excess Hollywood tape. And Brendan, forgive me if I'm not

00:06:13.520 remembering. Were you still with Speaker Paul Ryan when that came out?

00:06:16.000 I sure was, yeah.

00:06:17.360 What was it like?

00:06:19.920 Yeah, I mean, I think we saw the same blowback that, you know, it seems to be, I think,

00:06:24.720 what we understand probably is likely to happen here. You know, we, the former Speaker came out

00:06:29.920 and basically said, look, everybody for themselves, we can't defend this person anymore. And realized

00:06:35.200 very quickly that that's not where the party was. And that that was seen as giving in to the left

00:06:42.240 somehow. And as you articulated very well, he tends to use these things to his advantage.

00:06:48.480 That's a bludgeon, I think I said.

00:06:50.560 Yeah, he plays the victim very well and people go along with it. So, you know, it's,

00:06:56.800 it's, I think we need to be skeptical that presenting this information to Republican voters is going to

00:07:03.600 create a backlash to him or rather, um, as you said, more evidence that, that they're out to get

00:07:08.880 him. It's this, this cycle that keeps him afloat. And it's remarkable.

00:07:12.720 Can I ask you to be a bit introspective here and, and, and try to figure out why Republican voters

00:07:16.640 are so, um, warm to that, to that feeling that Donald Trump is the aggrieved and representing

00:07:24.080 them as the aggrieved. So any allegation against him, any criticism against him is, is thereby a

00:07:30.640 criticism of them. Why, why were they so, why did they embrace Donald Trump and not someone else in

00:07:37.680 the Republican party? And why do they still, I mean, I, I think he was the first to give voice

00:07:42.640 to something that has been in the party for a long time. Maybe not the first person to give

00:07:46.400 voice to it as, as a candidate. There is long been on, you know, on conservative talk radio,

00:07:52.000 the internet places where there was this elites versus regular people. Um, and the, the Republican

00:07:57.840 party for a long time sort of played into that notion of the establishment, the rich folks.

00:08:01.520 Um, and Donald Trump, you know, as flawed of a candidate as he was really gave voice to those

00:08:06.720 people who felt like, uh, there were these elites, there were Washington who were, who were out to

00:08:10.800 change their way of life. And, and he made it more of a cultural thing. And look, I think something

00:08:15.120 that people need to appreciate, there's this sense that if only people understood how bad a guy Donald

00:08:20.160 Trump was, they would change their view. Lots of Trump supporters understand that he is morally

00:08:25.120 flawed. They understand that he's not a good guy, but he's their bad guy. He's their guy fighting for

00:08:30.480 them. And that's really all that matters. And when you think that this is a matter of your way of

00:08:35.280 life, if it's cultural, it really doesn't matter to all that other stuff. And that's why they're

00:08:40.000 willing to stand with him time and time again, because he makes the right enemies. He'll say

00:08:43.920 whatever it takes to get the job done. Uh, and they admire that. And this is, again, this is a,

00:08:49.120 I don't want to call it strain, but it's been a factor of the Republican party for a very long time.

00:08:53.920 He saw it and took advantage of it and continues to today.

00:08:59.040 Okay. Uh, welcome. It is a Tuesday,

00:09:01.840 nine May in the year of earlier, 2023. It is a victory day in Russia. And of course, 0.98

00:09:07.520 yesterday was a VE day in, uh, Western Europe in the United States, the end of the war in Europe,

00:09:12.800 78 years ago. Uh, the wars in Europe, uh, may have ended 78 years ago, but, uh, the world's on fire

00:09:19.480 right now. The, uh, I want everybody to take a deep breath. And the reason we played that clip

00:09:24.320 and we had Katie Ter and, uh, Brendan Buck, and remember Brendan Buck, I believe was the head

00:09:31.820 the comms director, head of communications for Paul Ryan back in 16. When everybody take a deep

00:09:37.820 breath and just, you know, think back to the weekend of, uh, Billy Bush weekend.

00:09:45.660 When everybody lost their head and running around and it, uh, it's all over, you know,

00:09:49.580 Paul Ryan punched out, Mitch McConnell punched out, everybody punched out. Um, we, in the Trump campaign,

00:09:56.860 the inner circle did not punch out. And in fact said what Brendan Buck said there internally,

00:10:04.380 this election is not about locker room talk. And, uh, you heard, uh, the president's attorney,

00:10:11.940 this is going to be appealed. Look, it's New York city. It's a New York jury. Um, they're going to

00:10:17.460 appeal this. Uh, they're going to fight it. So people should just take a deep breath and realize

00:10:23.700 this is not what this election is about. This is not where the country is right now.

00:10:28.960 The country's in a free fall over at the white house. Right now, we have the first round of the 0.75

00:10:33.380 meetings with, um, we had the first round of the meetings with, um, the speaker and Schumer and

00:10:40.540 McConnell and of course Biden. And they're talking about what the most important thing is. We're

00:10:45.020 going to talk about the next 24, 48 hours, the financial condition of the country and how we're

00:10:49.640 going to get ourselves out of this complete mess. We're going to have EJ and Tony is going to join

00:10:54.100 us. Fox news has a story. Guess what? In the first seven months of the year, we're going to be one

00:10:58.220 trillion dollars, another trillion dollars at it, uh, to that we're behind of the, what the projections

00:11:04.580 were by like a trillion dollars. This deficit this year is not going to be one five. This deficit this

00:11:10.180 year, I think is going to be over $2 trillion. A big part of that is the decline in, uh, in,

00:11:15.560 in tax revenues. Of course, this morning we, uh, we went through, uh, everything we, we talked about

00:11:22.820 the federal reserve. The federal reserve is essentially bankrupt. Now they got it. They

00:11:26.540 have a trillion dollars of losses on their balance sheet, given interest rates, the country,

00:11:31.520 the financial condition of the country is complete shambles. And what you have is lawfare against

00:11:36.200 Donald J. Trump. If these kinds of things upset you, then you're not going to be, you're not going

00:11:41.200 to be right for this because they're going to come at Trump with much worth. They're going to come

00:11:44.640 with Trump. They're going to indict him two or three more times. They're going to indict him.

00:11:48.860 You know, Jack Smith's going to indict him. Jack Smith's going to indict him or the left is going

00:11:53.180 to run him out of town. Jack Smith's going to indict him with this, with this, uh, with this grand

00:11:58.540 jury in Washington, DC. He's going to get indicted down in Georgia. He's going to have multiple

00:12:03.080 indictments. They're going to be coming at him for all type of criminal activity, all type of, uh,

00:12:09.120 insurrection. They can't be in, but the polls today, the polls couldn't be clearer.

00:12:13.280 62%. Um, I think 60% for Trump to Santa's now in the teens, the Santa's, uh, failure to launch,

00:12:22.980 by the way, we're going to have, we're going to have, uh, we're going to have some, uh, we're

00:12:26.880 going to have the death settings meetings over. And did anything, can we pull a clip or anything

00:12:31.860 happen? Just, okay. We just ended, even as we spoke, by the way, one hour. Yeah, that looked

00:12:37.740 like an intense meeting, one hour and 12 minutes, have a cup of coffee and move on. We're going to

00:12:42.700 have a lot to go through. We've got EJ and Tony here. Um, we're going to play, uh, Steve Cortez.

00:12:48.320 We're going to play Steve Cortez. Um, not doing his whiteboard on war room this morning, doing it

00:12:53.240 in the Stuart Varney show on Fox business. We're going to get into all that. We've got EJ and Tony,

00:12:58.940 uh, and we'll get any updates we can possibly get. Look like, look like Kevin McCarthy did. He was

00:13:03.520 supposed to, was hold the line, uh, did not buck us. What they want, as we told you this morning,

00:13:07.500 they want a temporary increase to the debt ceiling, quote unquote, to give them more time

00:13:11.400 to negotiate. We're not going to let them off the mat. You can't let them off the mat. I'll have more

00:13:15.760 to say about this throughout the show, about this, uh, results of this defamation case, uh, throughout

00:13:22.100 the show. And in fact, Caroline Levitt is going to join us. I think we may try to get Joanna Miller on 0.72

00:13:26.320 here. We have a lot to go through. We're going to talk about what Takapino just said. Uh, so we're

00:13:31.060 packed a wall to wall. We got the Sequoia Capitol situation in the second hour. Uh, I want to make

00:13:36.320 sure everybody just take a deep breath. This is once again, and that's why we've had Brandon Buck

00:13:40.780 up there with Paul Ryan, all those guys abandoned us in the middle of October of 2016 and two and a

00:13:47.600 half weeks later, three weeks later, we delivered the biggest come from behind victory in the history

00:13:52.880 of presidential elections. Everybody take a deep breath on the day that president Trump,

00:13:57.940 the polling on president Trump is absolutely extraordinary. And so just understand you got

00:14:03.440 to strap in because this is just the first of many. And I told you the other day that you're

00:14:07.800 going to have, you're going to have an outcome here. You're going to have an outcome. Uh, my trusty

00:14:11.920 production assistant. Yes. No, no movement whatsoever. This is fantastic. So we're having an update.

00:14:18.360 EJ and Tony looks like no movement whatsoever over at the white house. So they're both that's,

00:14:23.720 Hey, they got respect for you. You headed the credit screen. Okay. Short commercial break.

00:14:27.780 We're going to come back. We got the Steve Cortez situation. We're going to have EJ and Tony on the

00:14:32.380 negotiations going on. We got a little packed up. We're going to also talk about this situation.

00:14:36.680 Hey, the law for against Donald J. Trump. We told you this was not for the faint of heart.

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00:17:04.560 Stephen K. Bannon.

00:17:06.020 Spokesman for Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020. Will he be, well, will he be back with Trump in 2024?

00:17:20.540 Hmm. Well, Steve's got a big announcement and he's going to make that announcement right here,

00:17:25.200 right after this break. Look who's here now. Put him on the camera. There he is. Former Trump,

00:17:30.900 former Trump campaign advisor, Steve Cortez. Now, you worked with Trump in 2016. He worked with him

00:17:37.140 in 2020. And now you've got an announcement. Who are you backing? I do, Stuart. I'm backing

00:17:42.760 Governor Ron DeSantis for president and just joined his PAC, his aligned PAC, Never Back Down. Look,

00:17:49.820 I was honored to work for President Trump. And I think he was exactly the disruptor that the country

00:17:54.620 needed back in 2016. But when I look at the situation now and going forward, I believe the best

00:18:00.660 option to both win the general election and to govern effectively, to implement a conservative

00:18:06.860 agenda in office, I believe the best option is Ron DeSantis. And let me tell you one other important

00:18:12.880 reason I'm backing Ron DeSantis is that the idea of a rematch, of a rematch of Biden versus Trump

00:18:19.780 is something this country overwhelmingly does not want. It is a movie that we have already seen.

00:18:25.260 Nobody liked it. And we know the ending. To give you some of the numbers on that,

00:18:29.100 NBC News polling shows that 70% of Americans do not want Biden.

00:18:33.820 Not that they don't love the voice of Steve Cortez, but let's go ahead and stop and let's go to the

00:18:38.020 live feed outside the White House. We'll come back to Cortez. Let's go to the live feed.

00:18:42.040 And the sooner they get together, the better. If they get together, the bill will pass both the

00:18:49.080 House and the Senate on a bipartisan basis.

00:18:51.680 Speaker 1

00:18:53.800 Leader McConnell clearly said the United States will not default on its debt. Can you say the same,

00:18:59.940 that the United States will not default on its debt?

00:19:01.920 Yeah, because the House raised the debt limit. I'm Speaker of the House. I'm not the leader of the

00:19:08.120 Senate. I'm not the President. So your question is, it will not default? I've done everything in my power to

00:19:13.160 make sure it will not default. We have passed a bill that raised the debt limit. Now, I haven't seen that

00:19:18.760 in the Senate, so I don't know.

00:19:21.040 Speaker 1

00:19:22.880 The President has said that he is willing to negotiate overspending, but he's not going to do

00:19:27.120 so with a gun to the head of the American economy. Did he reiterate that to you today? And what was

00:19:31.880 your response to him?

00:19:32.160 Well, what's interesting is, I would never want to put any gun to anybody's head. That's why I came

00:19:37.960 on February 1st. I sat out here. I want to have something responsible. I want to have something

00:19:43.560 sensible. And then I just say to you and the American public, would it be wrong if you took

00:19:50.280 hardworking taxpayer money and you had billions of dollars appropriated for a pandemic that

00:19:56.080 is now over? Why wouldn't you pull that back? Would it be wrong to put some control? Remember

00:20:02.480 what we're talking about. A debt ceiling is like your child having a credit card. We reached

00:20:07.940 the limit. We're responsible for paying it. But would you just raise the limit without

00:20:13.320 seeing how you're spending your money? That's all we're talking about. So I understand that

00:20:19.780 the president has to sign it and it has to pass the Senate. So why couldn't we for the

00:20:24.320 last 97 days talk about this? Why would it when a president who was vice president before,

00:20:31.900 if you look at all of his quotes, this is a man who prided himself. They called him the

00:20:36.340 Biden negotiations. This is a man, the president Biden, when he was senator, he actually voted

00:20:41.960 against debt ceilings because they said they didn't cut enough in spending. This is a president

00:20:48.060 who, when he was vice president, Joe Biden, when it was a $14 trillion debt, said, we have to do

00:20:53.300 something about this big debt that we have. It is now $31 trillion. I think every single household

00:21:00.580 believes you need to be able to do something responsible and sensible. And that's what we've

00:21:05.640 been trying to do for the last three months.

00:21:07.200 Senator McConnell, what gives you that confidence after this meeting,

00:21:11.000 Senator McConnell, that there won't be a default?

00:21:13.200 When you said that the U.S. has never defaulted and never will, what gives you that confidence

00:21:18.200 right now to say that. The United States of America is not going to default. We are having

00:21:28.580 a debate here in conjunction with raising the debt ceiling as to whether or not after dropping

00:21:35.820 $2.6 trillion on the American people in the last Congress on a partisan vote, we ought to

00:21:44.320 have at least some restraint on our spending related to the debt ceiling. And this is not unusual. We've

00:21:55.760 been here before. Debt ceilings have frequently carried other measures. What we have here is we're

00:22:03.000 running out of time. And it's time for the president to get serious and to sit down with the speaker and

00:22:09.500 get a solution.

00:22:10.500 Remember what we're talking about here. No, just for all of you to understand what we're

00:22:17.340 talking about, okay? The Democrats think it's really extreme that we want to say we should

00:22:24.100 only spend the next year what we spent five months ago. They say it's draconian. What we spent five

00:22:31.800 months ago is more than how much President Biden, at that time Vice President Obama, proposed to spend

00:22:39.660 at this time. Were people being hurt? Were people not getting their veteran care? Were people not

00:22:47.260 getting everything they asked for five months ago? That is what we're asking for. Is that too much?

00:22:53.760 That we can raise a debt limit, spend what we spent five months ago, pull back that COVID money that

00:22:59.220 has sat there for two years, put work requirements in that help the supply chain, help people get promoted

00:23:06.060 and get more jobs, make us energy independent so Americans have a lower cost in their energy bills.

00:23:12.820 Now, if they have a better idea, I'm sitting here like I have for the last 97 days. Tell me what it is.

00:23:20.220 Did you address the argument from the administration that House Republicans want to cut veterans' benefits?

00:23:28.740 And then also, sir, are you confident that the House Republicans would accept anything less than the

00:23:35.880 House bill if the cuts were lessened? Listen, first of all, cutting the veterans is a lie. Where in the bill

00:23:41.720 does it say we cut veterans? You'll find next week when we do our appropriation bill, we increase the funding

00:23:47.240 to veterans. But this is what I'm talking about. That type of behavior is pure political rhetoric.

00:23:54.920 This is too important issue to play political games with. So if one side is going to sit back and say those

00:24:01.320 type of things, all I'm asking is that we spend the amount of money we spent five months ago.

00:24:08.920 Were veterans getting their care five months ago? We're actually going to increase. And how the system

00:24:13.640 works, it's just like any other household. You get a certain amount of income in, then you prioritize how

00:24:20.280 you spend it. In our appropriation process, Republicans and Democrats alike will get to sit in committee

00:24:26.840 and decide how much to spend. The difference is that we'll spend what we spent five months ago,

00:24:33.320 and we can decide what our priorities. So we'll probably look with a fine-tooth comb. Where is

00:24:38.120 there some waste in government? I'm sure every single American can point a lot out. So we can spend

00:24:44.600 more on the veterans, and we can spend less on the waste.

00:24:46.440 The president doesn't move. If the president doesn't move, were you for the sake of the country?

00:24:53.720 Well, this is so great for the sake of the country, and why I wanted to make sure we would never be in

00:24:58.840 a place like this. 97 days ago, I sat in the Oval Office with the president and said, let's find an

00:25:04.520 agreement. When he would not move and he would not negotiate, even though the majority of Americans

00:25:10.520 believe that what you should do. And that's, this isn't the same Biden that was a senator and a vice

00:25:17.320 president who believed that we should negotiate, who always argued that you had to be together.

00:25:22.440 But even though that he wouldn't do that, the House passed a bill to make sure for the American

00:25:27.160 people that we wouldn't get there, and we were able to get there. Yes, sir?

00:25:30.040 Sir, any proposals?

00:25:31.800 Two questions there.

00:25:32.600 One, was anything accomplished at today's meeting? One. Two, is this country looking down the road at future

00:25:38.680 generations at $40, $50, $60 trillion in debt? And when does the card max out? Thank you.

00:25:43.160 Well, it's more than that, because when you think about this, and this is what the American

00:25:46.680 public should think about, how do you get in a situation like this? You can put blame on all

00:25:52.360 sides. You spend more money than you bring in. On a 50-year average, we normally spend about 21% of

00:25:58.600 GDP. But what happened when the Democrats took the majority, they increased that to more than 24%.

00:26:04.040 Now, is there enough money coming in? Well, on a 50-year average, we usually bring in about 17%

00:26:11.640 roughly of GDP. Right now, we're at 20%. Do you know how many times we've ever brought in this much

00:26:17.080 money or this higher percent? Only two times in modern history, in 1944 and 2000. So we have more

00:26:22.840 money coming in at any given time. But what's the problem is, they've increased spending by $6 trillion.

00:26:28.040 So that brought us inflation. That brought us this problem. You have a $31 trillion debt. Now,

00:26:33.240 what does that mean? That's bigger than our whole economy by 20%. We've only been in this situation

00:26:39.640 by a percentage one other time after during World War II. Now, the real concern that I have,

00:26:45.240 if you don't tackle or start tackling this problem now, you're harming all the future generations.

00:26:51.720 I think every American would care for their children and their grandchildren. So is it too much to ask that

00:26:57.640 we simply spend what we spent five months ago? Is it too much to ask to say, let's take that COVID money

00:27:03.720 that you did not spend, and let's give that back to the taxpayer to be able to raise the debt ceiling?

00:27:09.080 Yes. During the meeting, did you get the impression that the president could use other options,

00:27:15.640 such as invoking 14th Amendment? None of that was brought up.

00:27:18.520 Did he make any offers to you? Any proposals?

00:27:20.600 Is the president and yourself a part of that? Is it a staff meeting?

00:27:22.520 Yes. What we agreed to is we'll have the staff come together and meet during the week,

00:27:28.200 and we'll get back together on Friday and see if we get in place.

00:27:31.160 All five of you or just the two of you? No, all five.

00:27:32.760 Did he make any proposals to you in Utah for any ideas?

00:27:35.960 This has been a months-long impasse. I'm sorry, what?

00:27:37.400 This has been a months-long impasse. Three months-long impasse.

00:27:39.800 We've heard the dire warnings from the Treasury Secretary.

00:27:42.840 Is this fight worth the risk to the U.S. economy?

00:27:45.400 No, that's why the House Republicans passed a debt ceiling bill, where we actually lifted the debt ceiling.

00:27:50.840 The Senate has not. I mean, I've listened to Chuck Schumer all this time.

00:27:54.040 He hasn't done anything. And I don't know what he needs in the debt ceiling.

00:27:57.480 I know they passed in March. They made that Maine Maple Syrup Month.

00:28:02.680 If he needs that in the debt ceiling, I'm willing to agree to that, too.

00:28:05.320 But I wish they had stopped playing political games, that they would give you a...

00:28:08.920 Please, let me finish. They'd stop giving the rhetoric.

00:28:11.400 They're saying certain things are being cut or not.

00:28:13.960 I want the American people to understand. Is it too much that we ask that we simply spend

00:28:20.280 what we spent five months ago? Is it too much to ask that we find waste in government?

00:28:27.160 Like that 50 to 60 billion that we spent that no one used for COVID with the pandemic over?

00:28:33.560 Is it too much to ask that we cut red tape so we could build roads and highways and solar and wind

00:28:39.400 panels and make us energy independent? If that's too much for the Democrats, tell me what they think is

00:28:45.960 right. Do they believe they should just keep spending their grandchildren's money

00:28:50.840 and create more inflation? I think that's wrong.

00:28:53.960 Mr. Speaker?

00:28:55.240 I don't think a short-term extension does anything. We've got a timetable here.

00:29:03.560 I know the president wasted 97 days. You know, I came and sat with him and I told him

00:29:10.920 that, listen, we should work together. Let's be responsible. I won't predetermine what we have to

00:29:17.960 have. I think you should spend less than you spent last year since we spent too much money. I think we

00:29:23.560 should find ways that we can grow this economy. He said he wouldn't. You reported this how many times

00:29:29.000 he sat there and said he wouldn't meet with us. Then he changed, even though he tweeted after that

00:29:33.400 meeting that he said he agreed to meet on ways to make the economy stronger and way we would find

00:29:38.440 savings. He changed and he met with me the next day at the prayer breakfast and said we were going to get

00:29:43.000 together. Well, he changed his mind apparently. And then he said we had to pass a budget that does

00:29:48.360 nothing with the debt ceiling. Well, then Senator Schumer would tweet at us every day. We had to have

00:29:53.720 a plan even though he didn't produce one. Well, we produced a plan. We raised the debt ceiling and

00:29:59.000 we sent it to the Senate. The challenge here is the president wasted 97 days and now the Secretary

00:30:05.480 of Treasury has come and told us the date's even sooner. Thankful that we did something early so we

00:30:11.080 wouldn't be in that problem. Now I've got to see what the Senate could do so we can go to Congress.

00:30:17.560 Mr. Speaker, a jury just found Donald Trump liable of sexual abuse. Do you still support him?

00:30:23.080 You know what? I've been in this meeting. Let me find out what they said.

00:30:27.720 Do you think any progress has been made through this meeting today?

00:30:31.400 Well, the progress has made is that we were actually able to meet. So that's a difference in

00:30:35.640 the president's take. For 97 days, he denied the ability for anybody to negotiate. I don't know how

00:30:43.000 many times you asked him about it. I'd ask him every day. I offered to bring food to meet. I would do

00:30:47.880 anything we could that we could meet together and work on a bill so we wouldn't be at this day.

00:30:53.720 You know, what's interesting is I've said the same thing when it comes to the border.

00:30:57.800 And now we have a problem with Title 42 this week. Now the House, same thing. I tried to meet with

00:31:04.200 them to how we could secure the border. He treated the debt limit just like he treated the border.

00:31:08.920 He ignored it. But in the House, we will pass a bill this Thursday that could secure our border,

00:31:15.240 deal with the Title 42 so these millions of people cannot enter illegally. We are trying to find

00:31:21.560 solutions. We're trying to be responsible. We're trying to be sensible. But I think what we really need

00:31:27.240 is a partner that's willing to work together. It's unfortunate that they don't even want to talk.

00:31:34.200 Did he bring any offers to this meeting? Did he propose anything or did he just say that he

00:31:38.040 doesn't like what you guys did and asked you to do something else? Yeah, that's pretty much.

00:31:41.640 But Mr. Speaker, you've said that this has to be hashed out in the next few days in order to

00:31:46.600 prevent Americans from feeling the impact of this. Can you assure them that they are not going to start

00:31:51.240 to feel the economic pain from this? Look, I am only elected to one House. And I think it's very

00:31:58.280 important. Again, that's why I came here in February, the very beginning of February. I asked to meet

00:32:03.880 sooner, but that's as soon as the President would meet with me. Think for one moment. Everybody knows

00:32:09.480 how dire this is. This is the first time, as President of the United States, that he's had all

00:32:14.840 four leaders together. Think of all the issues America has had from the border, from inflation,

00:32:21.320 from a bank crisis because of the inflation they created. Never once has he brought the four leaders

00:32:26.520 together. He's waited to just two weeks before. And the real question would be, would he even bring

00:32:32.600 us together had we not passed the bill? That's not a way to govern. I'm not holding anybody to any

00:32:41.960 position. I'm simply saying, I want to meet. I want to work this out. I want to be respectful to your

00:32:48.840 job. I want to be respectful to your position. So you know what we did? We told them exactly where

00:32:53.640 we stood. We just didn't say it. We passed it to prove that we had the votes to do it. Because we

00:32:59.560 don't want to take America down a path we wouldn't want. We wanted to do this months ago. But

00:33:04.600 unfortunately, he has a lot of power. Mr. Speaker, you have not assured the public.

00:33:07.480 Yes. Mr. Speaker, you have not assured the public.

00:33:10.760 Let me ask a question. Thank you.

00:33:11.960 They keep saying that the U.S. has never defaulted before, but in fact, in 1862, 1933,

00:33:17.400 1968, and 1971, the U.S. did default. Is there like a plan B or something to happen in case all

00:33:23.880 else failed? What was concerning when I listened to the White House, they say they have no plan B.

00:33:30.040 The only way to raise the debt ceiling is something has to pass the House and something has to pass

00:33:34.920 the Senate. The House has done their job. So respectful to your question is, how can I guarantee,

00:33:40.440 I'm not a senator, but what I can do is do our job in the House. And we have.

00:33:45.080 You're a customer. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

00:33:48.280 So the first question, what topics are going to be brought up on Friday that were not discussed

00:33:51.960 today? And finally, can you reassure the American people that everything is going to be okay?

00:33:55.800 Look, from a House perspective, again, we're doing our job. I wanted to do it months before.

00:34:02.280 But it's hard to work with somebody who said you can't meet with them.

00:34:06.600 You know, what's interesting, I love America and I love our form of government.

00:34:11.800 And what really it's designed to do is after an election's over, you come together and you

00:34:16.440 negotiate. You find common ground. That's what I wanted to do the whole time. So when we devised

00:34:23.240 our bill, I looked for ideas that Democrats have proposed, like capping spending going forward,

00:34:30.920 pulling the COVID money. So that's what we passed. Last question.

00:34:34.360 Congressman George Santos has just been charged by federal prosecutors. Do you believe that he

00:34:39.400 should be removed from Congress? Should he be allowed to continue to serve?

00:34:41.960 I'll look at the charges.

00:34:42.920 Mr. Speaker, you mentioned the Senate needs to vote. Do you think this can actually be

00:34:51.000 resolved through regular order?

00:34:53.000 Mr. Well, through regular order, if we had, if we worked back in February 1st, the House could have

00:34:59.000 passed a bill, the Senate could have passed a bill, we could have gone to conference,

00:35:02.440 and we'd be all here doing the press conference together and talking. It's really difficult if this

00:35:07.720 is the very first time the President would ever bring four leaders together. Hakeem Jeffries,

00:35:13.320 the Democratic leader on the Senate, we get together almost every week we're in session. We might not

00:35:18.440 even have a topic, and we'll vote different. I respect his position. I respect him as a leader

00:35:24.200 of the Democrats. I tell him things that we're going to propose. We may not always agree, but that's

00:35:31.640 the way it should work. You should be able to talk and negotiate. It is unfortunate that so many of you

00:35:37.400 are here today because the President has denied us to talk for the last 97 days. I'm hoping that the next

00:35:46.200 two weeks are different. I'm hoping this President understands as the leader of this nation that

00:35:53.240 you can't sit back and hold the country hostage. You can't be so extreme in your views that you're

00:35:58.360 not going to negotiate. And to the American public, we've been very reasonable. I think spending the amount

00:36:05.800 of money we spent five months ago, regardless of whether the President thinks it's cutting or not,

00:36:10.520 is sensible. Every household would do that. Anytime a household has a problem, they would get together

00:36:17.000 as a family, and they would decide their priorities. That's all we want to do. And we want to raise the

00:36:22.440 debt limit, and we want to make our economy stronger. Thank you all. Have a good day.

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00:37:43.640 Okay, you've seen the there. That's at the White House. It's called the sticks right there in the in the side

00:37:50.920 entrance. That was Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell. I want to thank Real

00:37:56.280 America's Voice for letting us blow a break there. Also, and I understand there's a lot of people have

00:38:01.000 a lot of problem with McCarthy. And look, we're not happy with this deal. But we we fought it. But when

00:38:07.000 they got to 218, we said, we'll have their back. This is the start of negotiation. When when Biden

00:38:12.200 jams off in their face, we'll fight for real cuts. But in the in the kabuki theater of this town,

00:38:20.600 that was a masterclass right there and keeping your cool with a bunch of cheap shot questions asked.

00:38:25.640 And look at the lack of sophistication of the questions. Look at the whining of the question.

00:38:32.600 That's your media right there. Think about this for a second, what you've gone through in war room,

00:38:37.560 what you know about the situation with the country's finances, what you know about the economy,

00:38:42.760 particularly many of you that have not had a chance to go to college or have not studied economics or

00:38:47.400 have not taken Peter Navarro's macroeconomic class. Look at your knowledge level versus the

00:38:53.160 unsophisticated whining of those questions. And Kevin McCarthy just had a masterclass right there

00:38:59.400 that take the high ground to take the high ground. And this is a negotiation.

00:39:04.040 I want to bring in E.J. Antony. E.J., give me your first cut. Give me your hot take 1.00

00:39:09.400 on what we just saw there and what we know at least went on the meeting, sir.

00:39:13.960 Well, I think McCarthy holds all the cards, quite frankly. He has shown the the American people

00:39:19.880 that that he has actually done something. He has passed a bill and that the president is the one

00:39:25.400 sitting on his hands who is doing absolutely nothing. And what's really interesting, I find,

00:39:30.760 Steve, is that unlike in in PV in previous debt ceiling fights, what we're seeing this time around

00:39:37.080 is in obviously Republicans are in favor of not raising the debt ceiling. But we're seeing an

00:39:42.600 increasing number of Democrats who actually would rather not raise the debt ceiling at all

00:39:47.640 and simply do spending cuts. So the momentum definitely does appear to be on McCarthy's side.

00:39:55.720 E.J. brings up a very, very important point. And this is why we had we started the show today

00:40:02.440 with the polling of Rasmussen, not on the presidential polls, not on Bobby Kennedy and Trump together,

00:40:08.120 not on the problems Biden has in his own Democratic Party, but exactly on this issue. And the numbers are

00:40:15.000 pretty shocking. I think 57 percent overall support the Republican position right now and that you

00:40:21.080 have to have some cuts if you're going to talk about a raise. Is it in your mind, E.J., has this made

00:40:27.880 because Biden today, all they agreed was the staffs to come together. But remember, in agreeing to the

00:40:34.280 staffs to come together, he's already surrendered his initial negotiating position, which is I'm not

00:40:42.280 prepared to address anything except a clean debt ceiling. That he's already he's already given up

00:40:48.920 on because they're having the staff meeting and they're going to meet again on on Friday. Your your

00:40:53.240 thoughts about the process here and McCarthy keeping the high ground and already Biden starting to fold.

00:41:01.160 You know, I think Corinne's John Pierre was kind of laying the groundwork, so to speak,

00:41:05.560 for this the last couple of days when she began to say things like the president is not willing to

00:41:11.240 negotiate on the debt ceiling, but he is willing to negotiate on spending cuts. So essentially it's

00:41:17.240 kind of like a car dealer saying, I'm not going to negotiate on the price of the vehicle I'm selling

00:41:22.280 you, but I will negotiate on your trade in. So the White House seems to be setting up a situation where

00:41:28.040 they will try to save face by saying, look, we did not negotiate on the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling

00:41:34.040 is raised. And it just so happens that at the same time we're in talks with the Republicans to cut a

00:41:39.880 massive amount of government spending. So my guess is that is how the White House is probably going to

00:41:45.960 spin this as a win for themselves. Because again, it really seems like McCarthy holds the cards here.

00:41:54.040 No, he did such a fantastic job of saying how they had put a bill forward,

00:41:58.040 how if it was going to affect the American people is because of Biden's holding out.

00:42:02.120 I want to go to just to update the arms, by the way, massive breaking news. Tucker Carlson

00:42:07.480 just made an announcement about Twitter. We got the Cortez situation. We're going to have at the top of

00:42:11.240 the hour more about this decision, this liabilities case in New York. We're going to have Caroline

00:42:18.600 Leavitt join us. We're absolutely jammed. Some of the Tina Deskova said that we've moved to the six

00:42:23.160 o'clock hour. We've moved Natalie Winters there because I want to spend time with EJ. EJ, and for

00:42:28.360 the audience, and can we can can can the team make sure that Mo and and and and Grace Chong have this

00:42:35.480 so they put it up in the in the in the live feed and also if Denver can get it up. EJ, we've talked

00:42:43.080 about this when you were on a couple of weeks ago and we've been adamant about this tax of the economy

00:42:48.120 slowing. The tax revenues are coming in lighter, but this this is from the Congressional Budget

00:42:53.560 Office. This is not from Breitbart or Citizens Free Press or Gateway Pundit. The Congressional

00:43:01.640 Budget Office headline federal government under Biden runs one trillion dollar deficit in just

00:43:08.440 seven months actually 900 928 billion but nearly a trillion dollars way off of their numbers because

00:43:15.800 it looks like softening revenue. Your thoughts EJ you're the numbers guy. How bad can this get

00:43:21.080 right now? How how ugly uh could this get as far as the deficit we're talking about in this current

00:43:26.120 year sir? Well this can certainly get substantially worse uh be exactly because of what you were just

00:43:32.840 saying Steve. The fact is that revenue is coming in uh dramatically less than anticipated and the

00:43:39.320 reason for that is because this president has done everything he can particularly through a hostile

00:43:44.360 regulatory environment to stifle this economy. That's exactly what's happening. Let's not forget

00:43:49.480 when Biden took over inflation was only 1.4 percent and the economy was growing one and a half trillion

00:43:55.800 dollars at an annualized rate and in just a year and a half he managed to run up uh inflation to the

00:44:02.280 point where it was actually uh prices were rising about as fast in a month as they rose in the entire

00:44:08.200 year before he took office and he also managed to give us two consecutive quarters of negative growth

00:44:13.720 aka a recession and we're quickly headed back that way right now to but to put that deficit number kind

00:44:19.640 of into some perspective for people uh in in the first half of the current fiscal year right or actually

00:44:26.600 the first five months of the current fiscal year the government has run as big of a deficit as it had in

00:44:33.000 the first 11 months of the previous fiscal year in other words in less than half a year we have

00:44:38.840 managed to rack up almost the same deficit that we had in the previous fiscal year and somehow this

00:44:44.760 president has the gall to get in front of a microphone and say that he is cutting the deficit

00:44:49.480 nothing could be further from the truth

00:44:53.560 remember when we say fiscal year for the government starts one october the last day of the fiscal year of

00:44:58.200 the government is not december 31st it is september 30th so this is the first seven months now they

00:45:03.400 got the first seven months this congressional budget office it's a difference of 568 billion

00:45:08.920 than it was the previous year 568 billion dollar bigger deficit they attributed this revenues are off 10

00:45:17.160 that's the tax revenue is off 10 and the spending is up eight percent folks remember you're the

00:45:22.680 creditors committee it was your having the back that gave mccarthy the confidence he had going to

00:45:27.640 those sticks today and that confidence i can tell you you could feel coming out of the coming out of

00:45:33.800 the white house he had that in the oval he's got confidence why does he have confidence maga has his

00:45:39.320 back right and we're not totally happy i understand that but they have his back and we're negotiating a

00:45:45.720 bankruptcy and we're negotiating a bankruptcy this happens in bankruptcies all the time with the

00:45:50.680 companies in receivership they've gone chapter uh chapter 11 and in the reorganizing so they still

00:45:56.520 want the company run they don't want huge layoffs before the reorganization plan and they've given

00:46:00.760 you projections and particularly the banks and the junk bondholders projections and oops i missed it by

00:46:06.920 ten percent you see this all the oops i i missed it by ten percent oops i missed it by revenues by ten

00:46:12.760 percent but hey dude why is the spending up eight percent why why are you increasing your spending when

00:46:18.040 your revenues are dropping significantly this is the mismanagement of the illegitimate biden regime 0.80

00:46:25.480 now we got to bring to the table hey man all those numbers you've given us before everything

00:46:29.560 we've talked about which gets to the 50 trillion dollars and even trying to cut this

00:46:34.840 is is is off should be off the table this is gonna this is a bigger train wreck

00:46:39.560 and mccarthy couldn't know this because this is came out today fox news has got it from the

00:46:43.720 congressional budget office want everybody to read this fantastic ej if you can just hold with me by the

00:46:48.120 the way blockbuster news of tucker carlson uh he went full honey badger on fox he's gonna restart his

00:46:55.560 show on twitter walk away from this huge payment he's got at fox and fight it out in court on the

00:47:01.080 nda on their ability to do it so tucker's going hardcore we got a lot to get through it's a massive

00:47:07.400 news day but we're giving you the signal not the noise the signal is the country's finances that's the

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00:49:50.360 we're so jammed up ej uh closing thoughts uh i just want to say again i think mccarthy uh did

00:49:56.840 extremely well represented us well uh we're in a negotiation and biden's already crumbling

00:50:02.840 also remember they didn't bring up the 14th amendment none of the gimmicks he didn't put up any

00:50:06.760 of the threats any of the gimmicks i think we've chop blocked all the gimmicks including the one with

00:50:11.400 lawrence tribe today the thinking of new duties of this is how desperate they are in the war room

00:50:17.480 posse you've done such an amazing amazing job this is why they're coming after trump with every

00:50:22.440 aspect of lawfare because of you they want trump by the thing by getting trump out of the way they get

00:50:27.800 you out of the way ej uh thoughts observations before you bounce well steve to your point on just

00:50:34.680 how desperate they are we have janet yellen today think think about this she is actually personally 0.97

00:50:39.800 calling ceos warning them about a default i mean this is just absolutely unprecedented we

00:50:46.920 literally have the treasury secretary trying to scare our biggest business leaders into essentially

00:50:54.440 pressuring congress uh into just giving them the the administration the clean debt ceiling increase

00:51:01.080 that they want so they are absolutely desperate and if i think if mccarthy really just stays on the gas

00:51:07.720 he's going to be able to to get a win here ej brings up another brilliant point i put it up this

00:51:14.520 morning on politico i said they're so desperate political had a story they're out calling ceos

00:51:21.880 scary mongering them ceos about what to put pressure you know on their employees to have people call

00:51:27.000 congress what we do here in the war room but we do it legit we don't have the secretary treasury

00:51:31.480 she's calling ceos to tell how catastrophic this is going to be this is where the ej fabulous point

00:51:38.280 i've got it up on getter in fact that's one of the reasons you want to get getter i'm putting

00:51:41.080 up stuff all day long ej how do people get to you what's your social media where they go to get all

00:51:45.400 your analysis you're a numbers guy which we love uh where do people go uh best place to find me is

00:51:52.520 going to be on twitter at real ej and tony and just like the treasury statement uh that we mentioned

00:51:57.960 earlier today or earlier in our conversation you know i post all my reviews of those statements so

00:52:03.080 that you don't actually have to read through them you can just get the top line on all of those

00:52:07.480 different data releases and stay informed on what's really going on in the economy

00:52:13.400 no that's why your stuff's so amazing ej thank you uh look forward to having you back on here

00:52:18.760 make sure you get to his twitter get to his twitter get dj's twitter sign up because he does

00:52:22.520 that he does the summer he breaks it down for you let's go ahead tucker carlson this is blockbuster

00:52:27.800 news this is signal not noise and man it's going to lead to a dogfight over at fox let's go ahead and play

00:52:32.840 it hey it's tucker carlson you often hear people say the news is full of lies but most of the time

00:52:39.720 that's not exactly right much of what you see on television or read the new york times is in fact

00:52:45.080 true in the literal sense you could pass one of the media's own fact checks lawyers would be willing

00:52:50.360 to sign off on it in fact they may have but that doesn't make it true it's not true at the most basic

00:52:56.680 level the news you consume is a lie a lie of the stealthiest and most insidious kind facts have been

00:53:03.160 withheld on purpose along with proportion and perspective you are being manipulated how does

00:53:09.160 that work let's see if i tell you that a man has been unjustly arrested for armed robbery that is not

00:53:15.080 strictly speaking a lie he may have been framed at this point there's been no trial so no one can really

00:53:20.120 say but if i don't mention the fact that the same man has been arrested for the same crime six times

00:53:26.520 before am i really informing you no i'm not i'm misleading you and that's what the news media

00:53:33.160 are doing in every story that matters every day of the week every week of the year what's it like to

00:53:39.560 work in a system like that after more than 30 years in the middle of it we could tell you stories

00:53:45.240 the best you can hope for in the news business at this point is the freedom to tell the fullest truth

00:53:49.880 that you can but there are always limits and you know that if you bump up against those limits often

00:53:55.800 enough you will be fired for it that's not a guess it's guaranteed every person who works in english

00:54:02.840 language media understands that the rule of what you can't say defines everything it's filthy really

00:54:10.840 and it's utterly corrupting you can't have a free society if people aren't allowed to say what they

00:54:16.120 think is true speech is the fundamental prerequisite for democracy that's why it's enshrined in the first of

00:54:23.000 our constitutional amendments amazingly as of tonight there aren't many platforms left that allow free

00:54:29.320 speech the last big one remaining in the world the only one is twitter where we are now twitter has

00:54:37.400 long served as the place where our national conversation incubates and develops twitter is

00:54:42.600 not a partisan site everybody's allowed here and we think that's a good thing and yet for the most part

00:54:48.600 the news that you see analyzed on twitter comes from media organizations that are themselves thinly

00:54:54.120 disguised propaganda outlets you see it on cable news you talk about it on twitter the result may feel

00:55:00.840 like a debate but actually the gatekeepers are still in charge we think that's a bad system we know exactly

00:55:08.280 how it works and we're sick of it starting soon we'll be bringing a new version of the show we've been

00:55:13.880 doing for the last six and a half years to twitter we bring some other things too which we'll tell you

00:55:18.680 about but for now we're just grateful to be here free speech is the main right that you have without it you

00:55:25.400 have no others see you soon pretty bob old man murdoch suck on that is that a throw down and remember 0.91

00:55:37.320 tucker's walking away it's a big payday tucker was the number one guy in the business i think 20 million

00:55:43.560 bucks he's walking right there i think he's at 25 million dollars walking away and they're going to

00:55:47.560 have a a huge throw down in the courts right old man murdoch i told you from the stage of cpac you're

00:55:55.160 corrupt demonic nobody cares nobody cares about you and the tv for stupid people tucker carlson now going to 0.95

00:56:02.600 go to twitter and a hard throw down it's all great okay we're gonna take a short break we're

00:56:08.520 coming in for the second hour it's okay i'm gonna give everybody a heads up mccarthy's just announced

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Bannon's War Room - May 09, 2023

Episode 2720： The Fight For The Debt Ceiling

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