Episode 2741： 'Safe And Effective'; High Crimes And Misdemeanors
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We have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation: the unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation of disinformation, and the deepening of societal inequalities. We have seen how algorithmic biases can perpetuate discrimination and prejudice, and how the lack of transparency can undermine public trust. This is not the future we want.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bannam
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we have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation the unbridled exploitation of personal
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data the proliferation of disinformation and the deepening of societal inequalities we have seen
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how algorithmic biases can perpetuate discrimination and prejudice and how the lack of transparency can
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undermine public trust this is not the future we want that voice was not mine and the audio was
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an ai voice cloning software trained on my floor speeches the remarks were written by chat gbt
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open ai is an unusual company and we set it up that way because ai is an unusual technology
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we are working to build tools that one day can help us make new discoveries and address some of
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humanity's biggest challenges like climate change and curing cancer we believe that the benefits of
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the tools we have deployed so far vastly outweigh the risks but ensuring their safety is vital to
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our work gpt4 is more likely to respond helpfully and truthfully and refuse harmful requests than any
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other widely deployed model of similar capability we think that regulatory intervention by governments
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will be critical to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models
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for example the u.s government might consider a combination of licensing and testing requirements
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for development and release of ai models above a threshold of capabilities
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mr marcus there's no way no way to put this genie in the bottle globally this is it's exploding
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but there's there's no way to stop this moving forward let me just insert there are more genies yet
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to come from more bottles some genies are already out but we don't have machines that can really for
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example self-improve themselves we don't really have machines that have self-awareness and we
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might not ever want to go there so there are other genies to be concerned about where i think the
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licensing scheme comes in is uh not with not for what these models are capable of today as we head
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towards artificial general intelligence and the impact that will have and the power of that technology
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i think we need to treat that as seriously as we treat other very powerful technologies and that's
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where i personally think we need such a such a scheme mr altman maybe you can help me understand
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here what some of the significance of this is should we be concerned about large language models
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that can predict survey opinion and then can help organizations entities fine-tuned strategies to
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elicit behaviors from voters should we be worried about this for our elections it's one of my areas of
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greatest concern the the more general ability of these models to manipulate and to persuade
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uh to provide sort of one-on-one uh you know interactive disinformation we're going to face
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an election next year and these models are getting better there's a lot of policies that companies can
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voluntarily adopt and i'm happy to talk about what we do there um i do think some regulation would be
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quite wise and i see you know open ai backed by microsoft uh anthropic is backed by google are you
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worried about the corporate concentration in this space and what effect it might have i think there is
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benefits benefits and danger to that because we're talking about all the dangers with ai the fewer of
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us that you really have to keep a careful eye on on the absolute like bleeding edge of capabilities
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there's benefits there mr marcus real quick there there is a real risk of a kind of technocracy
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combined with oligarchy where a small number of companies influence people's beliefs and that's
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enormous influence um on how we live our lives and having a small number of players do that
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with data that we don't even know about that scares me sam i'm sorry one more thing i wanted to add
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uh one thing that i think is very important is that this what these systems get aligned to
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whose values what those bounds are that that is somehow set by society as a whole by governments
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as a whole well now you have a new ceo um why i think little little linda is going to be great
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why um well uh twitter is it's very much an advertising dependent uh business linda is obviously
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incredible at that and she's just a great executive in general let's talk about free speech a bit
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you know you call yourself a free speech absolutist you want twitter and this is aspirationally
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aspirationally you want twitter to be as truthful as possible the most accurate source of information
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about the world um so what does that mean for how you police lies on the platform you mentioned
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community notes is that i think i think community yeah i mean i'd say so my overall kind of vision
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for x or twitter is uh to be a cybernetic collective mind for humanity this is going to sound quite
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esoteric and sci-fi but you know in pursuit of that objective uh you want to have uh information move
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quickly have that information be uh accurate and you want to have error correction on that information
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so you can think of community notes as like an error correction uh on information in the network
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our guest today is jeffrey hinton often referred to as the godfather of artificial intelligence
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um i talked to elon musk the other day and he thinks we'll get things more intelligent than us
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and what he's hoping is they'll keep us around because we'll make life more interesting
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if you have a world without people in it um or without animals in it it's just not as interesting as a
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world with people in it that seems like a pretty thin thing to rest humanity on to me but he thinks
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it's quite possible these things will get much smarter and they'll gain control and this is a video
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that was taken basically yesterday um and the optimist team was up all night making this video
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these are all real by the way the motors controllers um the electronics um and everything you see
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and the optimist robot is a tesla designed uh system first of all i think it's important to
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understand and think about gpt-4 as a tool not a creature which is easy to get confused
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okay uh joe allen it is thursday 18 may in the year of our lord 2023 um the hearing the other day we
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haven't had time time to really unpack it was quite disturbing i think it was most disturbing about
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how unprepared the political system is and even um the ability to hold hearings or actually break it
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down and have a a real discussion because the level of and and i'm not saying people didn't try
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hawley others tried but the level of sophistication of the questions was where the war room was two years
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ago when you came on or two and a half years ago and we're in a race against time joe allen walk us
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through that cold open walk us through what your thoughts are from the other day and then i know you
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got a lot of a lot of other things to share with us about this amazingly um important to the to the
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heart of the signal not the noise of what's happening in the uh with modernity sir
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well steve i am in no way consoled by what i heard at the hearing uh it definitely uh holly
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uh stepped up to the plate but even then you have this sense that uh what we're getting is something
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much like what you got with big pharma uh in essence partnering with regulatory agencies that's what i see
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uh coming down the pike so uh you had representatives from open ai that's sam altman uh represent representatives
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from alphabet google and ibm and you also had the professor who we heard there gary marcus a cognitive
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scientist scientist from nyu and i think that marcus really was the voice of uh reasonable terror
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in the room uh whenever you heard sam altman or any of the others sort of soft peddling the dangers
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uh you had gary marcus pointing out the real dangers of artificial intelligence the three things that we
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heard there that i think are the most important are the mass dissemination of disinformation by bots
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psychological manipulation they talked about voters in particular but that goes
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all across the board and then of course the possibility of artificial general intelligence
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the last is i think probably the hardest to get your head wrapped around because it doesn't yet exist
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and yet all these companies the major companies who are working on artificial intelligence they're trying
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to create it they anticipate it coming and should it come they all basically believe it will be a
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superhuman entity to which we should defer our decision making to some extent or entirely and so what we
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heard with sam altman when he talks about disinformation and he talks about the bots he's creating with
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this you know that will in essence disseminate this disinformation and confuse the public psyche making
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people unable to uh distinguish between human and robot online the solution he is offering coming from world
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coin called world id is a biometric scan of one's iris so that you can link your iris to your your your
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body to your digital identity so if that starts to be rolled out especially with the assistance of the
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government what we in essence have is this sort of orwellian world in which the only way that you can
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become a participant in the system is to link your biometric information to that system otherwise
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you're beyond the pale on the topic of voter manipulation already we see mass voter manipulation with human
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human beings spreading all sorts of garbage online in order to sway votes google is notorious i mean they
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they control 92 percent of information flow and they are notorious for their biasing towards liberal points of
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view but as holly brought up when you add bots to the mix what that means is that you you first of all you
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flood the zone with that potential disinformation and second of all as altman spoke about you have the
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potential for a sort of one-on-one human machine relationship that spreads that disinformation and you should
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also keep in mind that altman's technology is being latched onto by bill gates who wants to create such a human
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machine connection between his ai and the next generation through education they want to normalize this
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and what we would call disinformation they will call enlightened education and so all of these dangers
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are bubbling under the surface you have congress at least thinking about this but i'm in no way confident
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that congress is going to be as confrontational as they need to be uh nor am i confident that they're going to be
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able to actually anticipate the real dangers behind these technologies there are a few like holly uh and to some
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extent i would say even um guys like uh the the the congressman from california i'm blanking on his name maybe i need a
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new neural link who gave the speech on the house floor the other day uh he at least shows an awareness
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of it but that awareness is brad sherman i think yes brad sherman but that awareness is not going to be
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enough there has to be at least some real teeth behind any kind of regulation that goes out but with given
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this sort of uh unpredictability of the technology it's almost impossible to put in place a regulation
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to stop it i really think that but you know cory booker is right the genie is out of the bottle and
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there's really no going back so uh you know i guess in in essence steve what i'm saying is that that
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hearing at least shows some consciousness among our political class of the problem but i have serious
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doubts that the political class will be anything but a sort of pr for these big tech companies as they
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partner with them in a sort of public private partnership yeah yeah okay here yes so the key
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point is the solution think about it for the the solution to save you from the out of control
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algorithms and and the uh i've got an article up on getter now um from my ex-google senior executive
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that says that eventually very quickly not event very quickly when we go to agi that the the um
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the uh thinking machines will very quickly come to the to the uh conclusion that counter to what
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elon musk's fairy tale what he hopes in this fantasy land is that the the uh machines think we're just
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love wonderful we're great body men and we can help them out we actually think we're scum
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and either have to be directly controlled or gotten rid of the the solution that is a biometric scan is to
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is to basically wire you right into the hardwire you into the matrix with your human self right into
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the digital into the digital brain uh so they can actually know that your inputs to the to the digital
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brain this is what they're saying in a in testimony in congress this is not science fiction
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they also didn't talk about the central point is that the apparatus is funding most we talk about
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the reasons is that it was just kind of they showed a little ankle in this a hundred and some days ago
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at davos with chat gpt chat gpt and already it's it's got the education system completely wrapped
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around the axle because kids are just using it non-stop and it's also all the creatives are
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running around oh my gosh you know all the designers are going to be gone all the low-end artists are
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going to be gone all the writers you got a strike in hollywood this is but that's all that's all easy
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stuff you've got a massive problem here one of the massive problems you have in the executive order
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that biden signed months ago oh the moonshot the moonshot that's going to cure cancer like altman
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they're all talking it's all going to cure cancer remember cure cancer is what they put out there for
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you you're going to give up your humanity you're basically going to underwrite the destruction of
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civilization and humanity um how's that for replacement theory as we've said we're on the side of the
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homo sapiens we're on the side of man of every um race ethnicity creed because we're in it now
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folks and if you didn't think we're in it the the solution brother um
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brother alan is and they just kind of lay it out there well the solution is a biometric scan for
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disinformation all this is essentially to hardwire yourself into the major hardwire yourself into the
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apparatus that's it with a biometric scans you got to give it all up everything your dna all this
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in in some central and and and and elon musk was in the david faber interview
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the cybernetic remember he says two things one he's got twitter and chris hayes nailed it but
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missed the point he says hey it's a micro blogging site you have twitter which is apparatus then he
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has tesla which he says in the interview is the most advanced artificial intelligence company in the
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world on the practicality of applying artificial intelligence to world problems now and he kind
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of dismissed chat gpt and these others as several orders of magnitude lower in its sophistication than
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tesla and what he said his goal is what what twitter is is a cybernetic global mind for humanity
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well hey dude i'm not so sure we want need or can use a cybernetic global mind i think humanity is okay
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at i hate to bring up a terrible term warp speed and it's if you think the warp speed fiasco
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has had a lot of hmm maybe not great things come out of it jared kushner and mike pence and tony fauci
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hmm um that that's nothing compared to what's about to happen and it's happening there's a big article
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on wired about how it's going to have a huge impact on the 2024 elections i mean even if you're not a
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machine person even if you're just an old school it was signature verification and you can see that
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in the carry lake trial and you can see that everywhere that you have to get rid of these
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machines you can't have anything hooked to the internet whatsoever with artificial intelligence
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or you're not it's the end of democracy you're not going to have you're not going to be able to
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have elections you can't because what they talked about was kind of rudimentary in this hearing
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because they had to dumb it down for some of these senators josh hawley stood out as a couple of
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others did too but josh hawley stood out is actually understanding the issues involved the other thing
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was we didn't even have a conversation the executive branch of the government this has all come out of
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the government this has all come out of darpa it's all come out of the the weapons labs this has all
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come out of don't get me wrong they've had scientists at these they've had researchers and
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technologists and computer scientists at these other places that were funded by government
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research are working with government researchers are working off of grants by by the government
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and they did tremendous work but they talk about public private partnerships bang that's the old
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thing for the government that that's the merger that's the state capitalism that uh the government
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wants that's that's the ccp's model model total authoritarian what was described there and then later in the
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day favor had the interview with uh with um with musk and they just kind of laughed yeah it's impossible
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you know cory booker well i can't put the genie back in the bottle well who says you can't who says
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you can't that's a huge decision we're making right now just understand take your number two pencil out
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and write down in may of 2023 humanity humanity and the uh greatest republic in the history of man
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the bastion of freedom of free men and women uh essentially made a decision well it's too late
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we just got to go with this after that hearing i'm a hardcore luddite no i don't think an answer
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and certainly for this audience ain't going to be a biometric scan to to make sure the computer
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nose and you're hardwired into the into the apparatus joe allen you do this for a living
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i mean it was enough a little pablum to say people oh we've now had a congressional hearing
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and maybe we'll have a couple more and you know while this thing is moving at the speed of light
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to the 10th power and they're bad actors has anybody outside a couple of guys have punched out
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maybe the professor i just asked the audience have you seen any good guys and all the conservative
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ink fanboys i mean elon musk has got the maturity and discernment of an 11 year old boy just does
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i'm not saying he's not a guy he's the man with three brains when it comes to engineering and
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engineering problems but that does not make you someone you should trust decisions to that makes
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you a great engineer or particularly a great guy in in in the manipulation of data and the writing
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of algorithms okay that doesn't talk about forget even your moral character i'm talking about just
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discernment and judgment and maturity you're talking about 11 year old boy who's kind of capped remember
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all the people that take a lot of drugs they all talk about the psychologist how they get capped at the
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time they started taking drugs i don't know when elon musk started taking them right his was a
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ayahuasca and all this crap that they do all the time but i will guarantee you it was sometime before
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he became it came to maturity because he does not think like a mature individual and all the fanboys
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in conservative inc fanboying on him right there is that is pure totalitarian state so if you're
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comfortable with that the fanboy away but we're not in the war room ain't and we punch way above our
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weight on this one this is this is a tall order i'm telling you this is as bad as it gets and the
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only thing that's gonna be worse is because they're not even talking about the biotech part of it which
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i'm telling you is increasing at an increasing rate now in these labs throughout the world joe allen
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your assessment well steve i think it's their freedom versus our freedom because that's the
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argument they're always making is that the corporations need the freedom to produce the
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products that people want in order to help americans succeed but as you've said many times artificial
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intelligence and human freedom are diametrically opposed artificial intelligence relies on mass data
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scraping in order to be an effective system meaning that it only works if we're laid naked in front of
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the great eye in the sky so to speak and artificial intelligence tends towards control the systems for
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instance they're used in china the sharp eye systems they're some of the most sophisticated algorithms
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on earth what are they used for monitoring a population and then categorizing people in order to give
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them the appropriate social credit score and the people who are driving this forward all of them with a few
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exceptions all of them have one thing in mind and that is to push artificial intelligence forward to
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artificial general intelligence which they believe will be superhuman the argument that we're hearing
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is largely between people all of whom believe that's where we're going and they're arguing about how fast we
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should go to get there at meta you have yan lakun their chief scientist he wants to go as fast as possible
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so fast in fact that they are now openly releasing their code for their large language model llama and then
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you have guys like elon musk who signed the letter to slow it down but then immediately created x.ai to
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protect the rest of us from the evil woke artificial intelligence with his new based artificial intelligence
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and then you have sam altman who occasionally talks about how concerned he is about humanity
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but then offers things like biometric scans in order to save humanity from the mass confusion that his
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technology is creating and he believes read his essay moore's law of everything he believes humans will
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basically be replaced by the systems he is working on and on and on and on eliezer yudkowski the loudest
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voice against artificial intelligence development he is talking about bombing data centers but ultimately
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he wants to see the creation of a benevolent artificial general intelligence as does mo gaudat the guy who
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was talking about artificial intelligence destroying us all in his book scary smart x google ceo he believes we are that
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google is creating a god as a child so all of us here's uh here's arguing over how fast we become transhuman
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exactly we're in the hands in the grasp of transhumanists that are making the decisions about everyone being a transhumanist if you're not
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i would like to see a command given now to actually take out a data center and see if the computer
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actually did it short break in my younger days i was a naval officer on a destroyer in fact i was the a gang
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officer in charge of all the engineering systems that were not main propulsion and one of those was air
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okay welcome back um joe i know you got a punch uh give me your closing uh give me your closing
00:30:45.760
thoughts on this uh people should know behind the scenes people are working on this because
00:30:49.640
a solution isn't what was offered up the other day is not a solution and step number one
00:30:55.560
we have to have a full accounting and audit immediately of exactly what the trains of
00:31:01.580
dollars in this federal budget are paying for in in areas like this that are quite dangerous
00:31:07.200
these are and it was said the other day by somebody this is nuclear weapons to the hundredth power
00:31:12.420
these are nuclear weapons to the hundredth power and there's no regulation no control and what
00:31:18.720
they're talking about is either totally unacceptable the biometric scan or they were saying labeling it like
00:31:24.660
you put on a you know you label a pack of cigarettes for kids these are these are not solutions and we
00:31:31.340
need to get on top of this and first of all we need to make it a political issue because it is a
00:31:36.820
political issue because it talks about the fate of this republic and her citizens and right now people
00:31:45.360
are just asleep about this and they want you to be asleep about it this is why faber and uh and
00:31:50.940
must just kind of chuckled at the end about yeah it's too far gone you're not going to it's going
00:31:55.320
to be it's an arms race and you're not going to be able to slow it down it just is like cory booker
00:31:59.420
that assumption is a massive assumption maybe it's right that might be right but i would certainly like
00:32:04.400
to have a debate about that i would like to see the information on that i would like to have a
00:32:08.880
a uh you know discuss that break that apart as we've broken apart remember we got this audience on
00:32:16.520
the debt ceiling you know a year ago when nobody was talking about now it's the thing it's the main
00:32:22.260
thing of how to choke down this uh this out of control um federal apparatus and stop the madness
00:32:30.960
of destroying this republic so we can make it we can we we have the ability with this audience in this
00:32:40.140
platform to make it a thing and we've got to make it a thing because it's not going to happen without
00:32:46.540
you this is why we brought joe allen on a couple of years ago and this is why we continue to press
00:32:53.360
this and give you articles and joe's joe's spot on the war room on you go on the website is the is the
00:33:00.660
best knowledge you go there you got all the articles got all the information i mean he's a one-man
00:33:04.720
drudge in this area he's also working on a special project i think we'll be able to announce in a
00:33:09.720
couple of weeks that will blow people away and will be on this he's been working on this for a while
00:33:15.920
over a year so joe any closing thoughts i know you got to get back to work uh and i appreciate you
00:33:22.520
taking the time to pull you off the project to watch the hearing the other day and to give us your
00:33:26.400
thoughts but um here's the the thing i want to leave people with they're trying to take your agency
00:33:34.820
and give agency to a machine they're trying to take your agency your human agency which is what
00:33:42.000
um divine providence endowed you with your your your your your reason your mind your spirit your soul
00:33:51.680
coupled with your physical body to you know whether you call it dharma or dao or the holy spirit or
00:34:00.460
your soul the thing that makes you quintessentially human and what you will be weighed and measured on
00:34:07.460
if you're a believer in the judeo-christian west what you will eventually be weighed and measured on
00:34:11.460
by divine providence is your agency your agency you are what your record says you are
00:34:21.060
what they're doing is taking your agency away and they are and these are the worst people in the
00:34:29.560
world think about it is any of these people you've seen up there would you allow them would you allow
00:34:34.300
your would you put your children's destiny in their hands would you put your fate and destiny in your
00:34:39.320
hands would you put your communities your church your loved ones your expanded family uh when you were a
00:34:45.520
kid your mom and dad and your brothers and sisters would you allow the people that we've rolled out here
00:34:50.540
on these clips they see that would you put put all of that everything you love and cherish would you put
00:34:57.260
it in their hands let them make the decision would you let elon musk make the decisions of what you love
00:35:03.920
most and what is most most defined you uh as a human would you because if you would then we're heading
00:35:14.840
down the right path if you wouldn't then we got a course correct and and and i hate to put another
00:35:22.360
burden on you with everything else that we talk about and discuss and have you do but that's why
00:35:28.560
you know that's why this country is what it is that's why we had the revolution that's why we
00:35:33.160
had the civil war that's what we were the deciding factor even with our allies the russians and the
00:35:39.640
chinese that took the brunt of the of the assault of the fascist we were the deciding factor in world
00:35:45.900
war one and world war two and the cold war the great wars of the 20th century by common you know
00:35:51.820
basically the common man and woman of the united states so once again you're being called uh to make
00:35:57.360
decisions and to basically say no i don't think we're gonna do this let's do the let's go this way
00:36:01.840
we're at that inflection point and it should be obvious to everyone that to taking your agency
00:36:10.280
and they're going to give it to a machine and then that machine's going to be able to actually
00:36:15.600
program itself and have its own determination of what agency should be that's where we're heading
00:36:23.600
as sure as the turning of the earth is where we're heading joe allen your thoughts
00:36:29.140
steve it's definitely a question of the future and what kind of future people want uh obviously
00:36:36.860
most of the people in this audience are not interested in the kind of future that sam altman
00:36:41.620
is putting forward but you really have to question whether or not elon musk is really offering an
00:36:48.040
alternative basically what elon musk is offering is transhumanism and technocracy with a right-wing
00:36:56.440
twist and there are a lot of questions as to whether or not any of that is anything more
00:37:02.080
than sort of pandering to the crowd i don't know his heart i don't know what he really wants but i do
00:37:08.160
know that for all of his talk about the dangers of artificial intelligence he's right people i know
00:37:13.960
in ai say tesla is among the most sophisticated if not the most sophisticated artificial narrow intelligence
00:37:21.040
on earth and then when you have elon musk talking about he told he told he's told me what he wants
00:37:27.800
he bought something that's only worth a couple of billion dollars for 44 billion with the chinese
00:37:32.380
communist party financing he's he says that's going to be a cyber that really is a cybernetic global
00:37:38.880
uh mind for humanity his words not bannon's his words he also said in that interview he's the most
00:37:45.380
advanced ai company in the world by several orders of magnitude he dismissed his competitors he dismissed
00:37:51.780
his competitors he talked about the five million cars that could drive themselves simultaneously
00:37:56.000
and to top it all off and not to make too fine a point about this but he also said the election was not
00:38:05.200
rigged that joe biden was uh is the legitimate president united states and that he voted for him
00:38:10.440
that's all i need to know i don't need to know anything else everything else the fanboys are gawking
00:38:15.200
over oh this is going to be conservative this is going to be trump no it's not you're a fool you're
00:38:20.120
a fool if you believe that the one thing i can tell you about the war room we ain't perfect but we are
00:38:26.720
not fools okay and you can buy that and you can go down that primrose path and you're just like the
00:38:32.180
people in 1931 32 in germany after the war there were no nazis remember after the war couldn't find
00:38:38.800
any nazis hitler there was yeah it was a man that was the guy the neighbor's really into that i'd never
00:38:43.440
really heard much about it you couldn't find any nazis in germany after the war well guess what they
00:38:49.660
didn't all get incinerated in dresden or killed on the eastern front there were plenty of nazis and
00:38:54.540
there were plenty of people that were backing him at 31 and 32 and went to the siren song of that
00:38:59.540
that's exactly what people on the right are doing today guarantee you this is not a hard one
00:39:08.280
and we're in it now and you got to figure out some a solution they're offering you the solution
00:39:13.260
well i got a solution it's a biometric scan just going to bar you into the apparatus joe we got a
00:39:18.860
lot more to discuss on that but i've got to get to i've got i've got to go from the sublime to the
00:39:22.900
less sublime we're got to get some polling and just talk about the grubby nature of our politics but
00:39:28.260
how do people get to you brother how do people still get to your writings you'll be back with us full
00:39:32.560
time hopefully in a month from your project but how do you how do you how do people get to you in
00:39:37.560
the interim well steve if i could add two quick things uh elon musk's new ceo for twitter it's been
00:39:43.620
noted that uh linda yaccarina or yaccarino is of course she holds a seat at the world economic forum
00:39:51.360
she was i believe overseeing the task force for the future of work and so that should at least tell
00:39:58.520
you something about elon musk's war against the world economic forum uh you can find me at
00:40:04.400
jobot.xyz social media media handles at joe bot xyz and warroom.org under the transhumanism tab
00:40:13.480
thank you very much steve thank you brother you're a warrior thank you okay um while we're on the topic
00:40:20.780
of elon musk saying that the 2020 election was not rigged not stolen he voted for joe biden let's bring
00:40:26.660
in marjorie taylor green it's impeachment week it's impeachment week in the nation's capitalist
00:40:32.100
bling and i got mark mitchell to follow let's do it from your evisceration of graves and your call
00:40:39.680
for impeachment it's pretty dramatic uh do you think you have the goods to do this ma'am the receipts
00:40:44.780
yes i believe we do have the receipts and i really hope to see my entire conference get on board with
00:40:52.800
this because steve it's time to end the weaponization of government and matthew graves was just number one
00:40:59.540
for articles of impeachment this week uh impeachment this week as a matter of fact i'd like to let
00:41:05.260
everyone know welcome to impeachment week it is with the highest amount of solemnity that i announce
00:41:13.260
my intention to introduce articles of impeachment today on the head of this america at last executive
00:41:20.380
branch that has been working since january 20th 2021 to systematically destroy this country
00:41:27.540
the president of the united states joseph robinette biden joe biden has deliberately compromised our
00:41:35.140
national security by refusing to enforce immigration laws and secure our border allowed approximately 6
00:41:43.080
million illegals from over 170 countries to invade our country deprive border
00:41:50.120
border patrol of the necessary resources and policies sufficient to protect our country and his
00:41:57.120
administration has willfully refused to maintain operational control as required by the law he has
00:42:05.180
allowed fentanyl the number one killer of americans between the age of 18 and 45 to overwhelmingly flood
00:42:14.420
into our country and kill around 300 americans every single day these aren't just americans these are people's family members
00:42:25.320
these are their sons their daughters their brothers their sisters their mothers their fathers their cousins
00:42:34.860
his administration has lost complete contact with approximately 85 000 unaccompanied illegal alien children
00:42:46.860
and his policies have forced tens of thousands of illegal children into slave labor where are these kids
00:42:55.800
no one even knows it's horrible it's horrible joe biden has reinstated catastrophic and disastrous catch and release policies which
00:43:06.700
have allowed illegals to flood to flood our country and our communities he ended remain in mexico and reinstated catch and
00:43:15.540
release under biden's command the secretary of homeland security has illegally granted mass parole to aliens
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when u.s federal law only permits parole to be granted on a specific case by case basis
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he endangered the lives of americans by allowing illegal aliens who had tested positive for covid 19
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to enter our country and infect american citizens yet while enforcing strict covid policies on american citizens
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his policies directives and statements surrounding the southern border have violated our laws
00:43:52.440
and destroyed our country biden has blatantly blatantly violated his constitutional duty
00:43:59.180
and he is a direct threat to our national security therefore joseph robinette biden
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okay it's impeachment week mtg's on fire and she understands she doesn't have the conference with her
00:47:21.280
remember she's trying to drive the conference there mark mitchell once again rasmussen
00:47:26.220
you're always ahead of the curve you've got some polling on this i think that's fresh today
00:47:30.240
tell us about it absolutely before i start i really want to get into motivation and why we're asking
00:47:36.540
these questions rasmussen reports we're non-partisan we're an independent news media publisher and
00:47:42.220
because of that we like to hold the power structures accountable and if we see a power structure that
00:47:47.380
objectively has things that show signs of criminality or need to be investigated we're going to ask
00:47:53.260
questions about it and that really sets us apart because other pollsters aren't asking questions about a
00:47:58.080
lot of the things that we are and in this case we're talking about biden criminality and i think
00:48:03.560
an objective person could look around and say that we've seen enough things that biden should
00:48:09.240
potentially be treated to the same level of scrutiny that donald trump was during his presidency and so
00:48:14.980
really to dig into that aspect there's i think three angles three questions that we really are trying
00:48:21.600
to do as pollsters the first is to pick a nefarious act and see if the u.s likely voters think that it's
00:48:29.500
likely that joe biden did it the second is then to ask how likely is it that joe biden committed a crime
00:48:36.440
based on that act and then the third is really to dig into the the level of um support for impeachment
00:48:44.000
so really the one of the last times we were on not too long ago we really nailed number one and just a
00:48:50.280
quick recap there 66 percent of likely voters think that joe biden is implicated in his family's
00:48:57.200
dealings and 63 percent of voters say that it's at least somewhat likely that biden was engaged in a
00:49:03.520
pay-for-play scheme trying to set up and to receive funds for him as a family in exchange for foreign
00:49:09.240
policy policy decisions while he was vice president so really i think you know the numbers for that have
00:49:16.200
been increasing steadily and are now at the highest they ever are i think the news today is that number
00:49:21.940
two how likely is it that joe biden committed crimes high crimes and misdemeanors that would
00:49:28.220
justify impeachment and we have record-setting numbers today how likely is it that since becoming
00:49:34.460
president joe biden has committed high crimes and misdemeanors that would justify congress impeaching
00:49:38.800
him 53 percent of likely voters say it's at least somewhat likely and 38 percent say very likely
00:49:45.360
the last time we asked that question was back in november and that's a four-point increase and now
00:49:50.900
for the first time a majority of voters say that it's likely that joe biden while in office committed
00:49:55.880
high crimes and misdemeanors and the very likely number is up seven points to 38 percent since november
00:50:01.420
so that is i mean a huge uh turnaround and who's driving that turnaround it's actually democrats
00:50:08.180
so since november um the spread among independents is up a little bit um with republicans it's up one
00:50:16.000
point but back in november democrats only 27 percent of them said it's likely and now 35 percent of
00:50:22.740
democrats say it's likely and only 58 percent say not likely so the numbers in that one are now picking
00:50:28.560
up and moving in the wrong direction for the biden administration now you call this grubby
00:50:34.360
but hang but but but but but hang but hang hang over a second how can one third people are jumping
00:50:40.420
and probably how can one over one third of democrats thinks he's committed crimes that uh that would
00:50:46.920
qualify for impeachment sir uh and 21 percent of them say very likely so as of today in the latest
00:50:56.180
numbers joe biden's job approval rating among democrats is in the low 70s so there are a chunk of democrats
00:51:02.500
that somewhat disapprove or strongly disapprove of biden and then there's also democrats that quite
00:51:08.160
frankly think he may have committed crimes and don't care and support him so there's that as well
00:51:13.840
um but impeaching a president probably shouldn't be as easy as it was during the donald trump
00:51:20.840
presidency and i think there's an aspect of republicans that want to maintain maybe some
00:51:26.720
moral authority i don't want to ascribe too much motivation to them but if republicans want to
00:51:33.540
pursue impeachment it's going to be a tough public opinion fight and looking into these numbers i almost
00:51:39.020
wonder if voters aren't looking for leadership on on this particular issue but the question we asked
00:51:44.620
also should congress begin impeachment proceedings against president biden 42 percent of voters say yes
00:51:51.300
45 percent say no so roughly split to no winning by a few points the last time we asked that kind of
00:51:58.460
question was back in august and i think i was on your show to talk about it then as well and then we
00:52:05.620
posed it as a do you strongly support somewhat of support somewhat opposed or strongly oppose 53 percent of
00:52:12.100
likely voters then at least somewhat supported impeachment now the questions changed and the yes no
00:52:20.080
question is i think a higher bar but also a lot's happened since then and where we're at right now i
00:52:27.520
mean voters are relatively split but if you look at the party numbers 70 of republicans now support
00:52:33.040
impeaching joe biden and only 21 say no and independents are split 39 to 40 percent um but now
00:52:41.680
why do i say that maybe perhaps republicans are craving leadership on this issue we actually asked
00:52:49.560
how likely is it the congress will pursue impeachment proceedings against president biden and the
00:52:54.600
numbers are lower than they've ever been now only 28 percent of likely voters say it's at least somewhat
00:52:59.100
likely only 11 say very likely um that's an absolute collapse because we asked that question on the eve of the
00:53:05.980
2022 midterms and and 55 percent of likely voters at least someone supported uh at least it thought it was
00:53:13.600
at least somewhat likely that republicans would impeach the president mark um mark mark mark mark mark we
00:53:19.000
got to bounce i need people how do they get to your rumble your youtube because this needs to be drilled
00:53:23.900
down on it needs more time spent where do people go to get the full impact of this uh of this um poll
00:53:30.960
we're on gab getter and true social but especially twitter is where the conversations of freshness freshest
00:53:37.560
rasmussen underscore poll and also we're on rumble and youtube um so i'll be producing a video really
00:53:43.680
going into the details on this later too if people want to check it out okay yeah we'll link to it by
00:53:49.500
the way mtg and others are going to start taking leadership to mark mitchell's point when you have a
00:53:54.220
split 52 42 45 at the early days of it there's something here folks something happening mark mitchell
00:54:00.820
at rasmus and thank you short commercial break back with jim caviesel the sound of freedom next
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