Bannon's War Room - Episode 2741： 'Safe And Effective'; High Crimes And Misdemeanors

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.340 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.940 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.700 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.280 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.100 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.040 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bannam

00:00:47.500 we have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation the unbridled exploitation of personal

00:00:58.920 data the proliferation of disinformation and the deepening of societal inequalities we have seen

00:01:07.720 how algorithmic biases can perpetuate discrimination and prejudice and how the lack of transparency can

00:01:17.400 undermine public trust this is not the future we want that voice was not mine and the audio was

00:01:27.380 an ai voice cloning software trained on my floor speeches the remarks were written by chat gbt

00:01:35.320 open ai is an unusual company and we set it up that way because ai is an unusual technology

00:01:40.900 we are working to build tools that one day can help us make new discoveries and address some of

00:01:45.560 humanity's biggest challenges like climate change and curing cancer we believe that the benefits of

00:01:51.120 the tools we have deployed so far vastly outweigh the risks but ensuring their safety is vital to

00:01:55.980 our work gpt4 is more likely to respond helpfully and truthfully and refuse harmful requests than any

00:02:03.120 other widely deployed model of similar capability we think that regulatory intervention by governments

00:02:08.120 will be critical to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models

00:02:11.700 for example the u.s government might consider a combination of licensing and testing requirements

00:02:18.320 for development and release of ai models above a threshold of capabilities

00:02:22.260 mr marcus there's no way no way to put this genie in the bottle globally this is it's exploding

00:02:27.940 but there's there's no way to stop this moving forward let me just insert there are more genies yet

00:02:33.880 to come from more bottles some genies are already out but we don't have machines that can really for

00:02:38.520 example self-improve themselves we don't really have machines that have self-awareness and we

00:02:43.640 might not ever want to go there so there are other genies to be concerned about where i think the

00:02:47.940 licensing scheme comes in is uh not with not for what these models are capable of today as we head

00:02:54.140 towards artificial general intelligence and the impact that will have and the power of that technology

00:03:00.060 i think we need to treat that as seriously as we treat other very powerful technologies and that's

00:03:05.160 where i personally think we need such a such a scheme mr altman maybe you can help me understand

00:03:10.160 here what some of the significance of this is should we be concerned about large language models

00:03:14.180 that can predict survey opinion and then can help organizations entities fine-tuned strategies to

00:03:20.540 elicit behaviors from voters should we be worried about this for our elections it's one of my areas of

00:03:25.240 greatest concern the the more general ability of these models to manipulate and to persuade

00:03:30.720 uh to provide sort of one-on-one uh you know interactive disinformation we're going to face

00:03:36.160 an election next year and these models are getting better there's a lot of policies that companies can

00:03:40.120 voluntarily adopt and i'm happy to talk about what we do there um i do think some regulation would be

00:03:46.360 quite wise and i see you know open ai backed by microsoft uh anthropic is backed by google are you

00:03:52.460 worried about the corporate concentration in this space and what effect it might have i think there is

00:03:56.480 benefits benefits and danger to that because we're talking about all the dangers with ai the fewer of 1.00

00:04:01.040 us that you really have to keep a careful eye on on the absolute like bleeding edge of capabilities

00:04:05.480 there's benefits there mr marcus real quick there there is a real risk of a kind of technocracy

00:04:11.080 combined with oligarchy where a small number of companies influence people's beliefs and that's

00:04:16.320 enormous influence um on how we live our lives and having a small number of players do that

00:04:21.520 with data that we don't even know about that scares me sam i'm sorry one more thing i wanted to add

00:04:26.360 uh one thing that i think is very important is that this what these systems get aligned to

00:04:30.900 whose values what those bounds are that that is somehow set by society as a whole by governments

00:04:37.160 as a whole well now you have a new ceo um why i think little little linda is going to be great

00:04:42.880 why um well uh twitter is it's very much an advertising dependent uh business linda is obviously

00:04:49.900 incredible at that and she's just a great executive in general let's talk about free speech a bit

00:04:53.880 you know you call yourself a free speech absolutist you want twitter and this is aspirationally

00:04:58.100 aspirationally you want twitter to be as truthful as possible the most accurate source of information

00:05:02.280 about the world um so what does that mean for how you police lies on the platform you mentioned

00:05:09.740 community notes is that i think i think community yeah i mean i'd say so my overall kind of vision

00:05:17.580 for x or twitter is uh to be a cybernetic collective mind for humanity this is going to sound quite

00:05:27.300 esoteric and sci-fi but you know in pursuit of that objective uh you want to have uh information move

00:05:33.560 quickly have that information be uh accurate and you want to have error correction on that information

00:05:38.220 so you can think of community notes as like an error correction uh on information in the network

00:05:42.880 our guest today is jeffrey hinton often referred to as the godfather of artificial intelligence

00:05:50.220 um i talked to elon musk the other day and he thinks we'll get things more intelligent than us

00:05:55.440 and what he's hoping is they'll keep us around because we'll make life more interesting

00:06:00.660 if you have a world without people in it um or without animals in it it's just not as interesting as a

00:06:07.780 world with people in it that seems like a pretty thin thing to rest humanity on to me but he thinks

00:06:14.740 it's quite possible these things will get much smarter and they'll gain control and this is a video

00:06:20.180 that was taken basically yesterday um and the optimist team was up all night making this video

00:06:25.800 these are all real by the way the motors controllers um the electronics um and everything you see

00:06:35.420 and the optimist robot is a tesla designed uh system first of all i think it's important to

00:06:43.000 understand and think about gpt-4 as a tool not a creature which is easy to get confused

00:06:48.540 okay uh joe allen it is thursday 18 may in the year of our lord 2023 um the hearing the other day we

00:06:58.860 haven't had time time to really unpack it was quite disturbing i think it was most disturbing about

00:07:04.600 how unprepared the political system is and even um the ability to hold hearings or actually break it

00:07:14.020 down and have a a real discussion because the level of and and i'm not saying people didn't try

00:07:20.320 hawley others tried but the level of sophistication of the questions was where the war room was two years

00:07:28.660 ago when you came on or two and a half years ago and we're in a race against time joe allen walk us

00:07:35.600 through that cold open walk us through what your thoughts are from the other day and then i know you

00:07:39.900 got a lot of a lot of other things to share with us about this amazingly um important to the to the

00:07:47.440 heart of the signal not the noise of what's happening in the uh with modernity sir

00:07:52.780 well steve i am in no way consoled by what i heard at the hearing uh it definitely uh holly

00:08:02.300 uh stepped up to the plate but even then you have this sense that uh what we're getting is something

00:08:11.000 much like what you got with big pharma uh in essence partnering with regulatory agencies that's what i see

00:08:19.120 uh coming down the pike so uh you had representatives from open ai that's sam altman uh represent representatives

00:08:28.560 from alphabet google and ibm and you also had the professor who we heard there gary marcus a cognitive

00:08:36.540 scientist scientist from nyu and i think that marcus really was the voice of uh reasonable terror

00:08:47.080 in the room uh whenever you heard sam altman or any of the others sort of soft peddling the dangers

00:08:53.840 uh you had gary marcus pointing out the real dangers of artificial intelligence the three things that we

00:09:02.980 heard there that i think are the most important are the mass dissemination of disinformation by bots

00:09:10.160 psychological manipulation they talked about voters in particular but that goes

00:09:15.340 all across the board and then of course the possibility of artificial general intelligence

00:09:21.660 the last is i think probably the hardest to get your head wrapped around because it doesn't yet exist

00:09:29.120 and yet all these companies the major companies who are working on artificial intelligence they're trying

00:09:35.540 to create it they anticipate it coming and should it come they all basically believe it will be a

00:09:43.540 superhuman entity to which we should defer our decision making to some extent or entirely and so what we

00:09:52.740 heard with sam altman when he talks about disinformation and he talks about the bots he's creating with

00:10:01.840 this you know that will in essence disseminate this disinformation and confuse the public psyche making

00:10:10.380 people unable to uh distinguish between human and robot online the solution he is offering coming from world

00:10:19.440 coin called world id is a biometric scan of one's iris so that you can link your iris to your your your

00:10:29.180 body to your digital identity so if that starts to be rolled out especially with the assistance of the

00:10:37.120 government what we in essence have is this sort of orwellian world in which the only way that you can

00:10:43.800 become a participant in the system is to link your biometric information to that system otherwise

00:10:50.020 you're beyond the pale on the topic of voter manipulation already we see mass voter manipulation with human

00:10:58.860 human beings spreading all sorts of garbage online in order to sway votes google is notorious i mean they

00:11:06.580 they control 92 percent of information flow and they are notorious for their biasing towards liberal points of

00:11:14.240 view but as holly brought up when you add bots to the mix what that means is that you you first of all you

00:11:22.980 flood the zone with that potential disinformation and second of all as altman spoke about you have the

00:11:30.220 potential for a sort of one-on-one human machine relationship that spreads that disinformation and you should

00:11:37.520 also keep in mind that altman's technology is being latched onto by bill gates who wants to create such a human

00:11:45.580 machine connection between his ai and the next generation through education they want to normalize this

00:11:54.660 and what we would call disinformation they will call enlightened education and so all of these dangers

00:12:03.200 are bubbling under the surface you have congress at least thinking about this but i'm in no way confident

00:12:10.160 that congress is going to be as confrontational as they need to be uh nor am i confident that they're going to be

00:12:16.440 able to actually anticipate the real dangers behind these technologies there are a few like holly uh and to some

00:12:25.060 extent i would say even um guys like uh the the the congressman from california i'm blanking on his name maybe i need a

00:12:34.240 new neural link who gave the speech on the house floor the other day uh he at least shows an awareness

00:12:40.540 of it but that awareness is brad sherman i think yes brad sherman but that awareness is not going to be

00:12:47.900 enough there has to be at least some real teeth behind any kind of regulation that goes out but with given

00:12:55.920 this sort of uh unpredictability of the technology it's almost impossible to put in place a regulation

00:13:02.480 to stop it i really think that but you know cory booker is right the genie is out of the bottle and

00:13:08.760 there's really no going back so uh you know i guess in in essence steve what i'm saying is that that

00:13:16.140 hearing at least shows some consciousness among our political class of the problem but i have serious

00:13:22.840 doubts that the political class will be anything but a sort of pr for these big tech companies as they

00:13:29.040 partner with them in a sort of public private partnership yeah yeah okay here yes so the key

00:13:36.660 point is the solution think about it for the the solution to save you from the out of control

00:13:43.540 algorithms and and the uh i've got an article up on getter now um from my ex-google senior executive

00:13:50.740 that says that eventually very quickly not event very quickly when we go to agi that the the um

00:13:57.500 the uh thinking machines will very quickly come to the to the uh conclusion that counter to what

00:14:05.060 elon musk's fairy tale what he hopes in this fantasy land is that the the uh machines think we're just 0.94

00:14:11.540 love wonderful we're great body men and we can help them out we actually think we're scum

00:14:15.420 and either have to be directly controlled or gotten rid of the the solution that is a biometric scan is to

00:14:22.100 is to basically wire you right into the hardwire you into the matrix with your human self right into

00:14:29.000 the digital into the digital brain uh so they can actually know that your inputs to the to the digital

00:14:34.500 brain this is what they're saying in a in testimony in congress this is not science fiction

00:14:40.360 they also didn't talk about the central point is that the apparatus is funding most we talk about

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00:18:06.360 the reasons is that it was just kind of they showed a little ankle in this a hundred and some days ago

00:18:14.440 at davos with chat gpt chat gpt and already it's it's got the education system completely wrapped

00:18:22.080 around the axle because kids are just using it non-stop and it's also all the creatives are

00:18:27.580 running around oh my gosh you know all the designers are going to be gone all the low-end artists are

00:18:32.520 going to be gone all the writers you got a strike in hollywood this is but that's all that's all easy

00:18:38.580 stuff you've got a massive problem here one of the massive problems you have in the executive order

00:18:43.580 that biden signed months ago oh the moonshot the moonshot that's going to cure cancer like altman

00:18:49.720 they're all talking it's all going to cure cancer remember cure cancer is what they put out there for

00:18:53.480 you you're going to give up your humanity you're basically going to underwrite the destruction of

00:18:57.780 civilization and humanity um how's that for replacement theory as we've said we're on the side of the

00:19:04.440 homo sapiens we're on the side of man of every um race ethnicity creed because we're in it now

00:19:13.200 folks and if you didn't think we're in it the the solution brother um

00:19:19.760 brother alan is and they just kind of lay it out there well the solution is a biometric scan for

00:19:29.000 disinformation all this is essentially to hardwire yourself into the major hardwire yourself into the

00:19:35.520 apparatus that's it with a biometric scans you got to give it all up everything your dna all this

00:19:42.040 in in some central and and and and elon musk was in the david faber interview

00:19:47.960 the cybernetic remember he says two things one he's got twitter and chris hayes nailed it but

00:19:57.140 missed the point he says hey it's a micro blogging site you have twitter which is apparatus then he

00:20:01.700 has tesla which he says in the interview is the most advanced artificial intelligence company in the

00:20:08.800 world on the practicality of applying artificial intelligence to world problems now and he kind

00:20:17.340 of dismissed chat gpt and these others as several orders of magnitude lower in its sophistication than

00:20:26.360 tesla and what he said his goal is what what twitter is is a cybernetic global mind for humanity

00:20:34.940 well hey dude i'm not so sure we want need or can use a cybernetic global mind i think humanity is okay

00:20:46.520 right now

00:20:47.000 this is happening

00:20:51.060 at i hate to bring up a terrible term warp speed and it's if you think the warp speed fiasco

00:21:00.600 has had a lot of hmm maybe not great things come out of it jared kushner and mike pence and tony fauci

00:21:09.060 hmm um that that's nothing compared to what's about to happen and it's happening there's a big article

00:21:18.860 on wired about how it's going to have a huge impact on the 2024 elections i mean even if you're not a

00:21:25.580 machine person even if you're just an old school it was signature verification and you can see that

00:21:31.440 in the carry lake trial and you can see that everywhere that you have to get rid of these

00:21:36.420 machines you can't have anything hooked to the internet whatsoever with artificial intelligence

00:21:41.360 or you're not it's the end of democracy you're not going to have you're not going to be able to

00:21:44.380 have elections you can't because what they talked about was kind of rudimentary in this hearing

00:21:51.880 because they had to dumb it down for some of these senators josh hawley stood out as a couple of

00:21:57.480 others did too but josh hawley stood out is actually understanding the issues involved the other thing

00:22:02.680 was we didn't even have a conversation the executive branch of the government this has all come out of

00:22:08.880 the government this has all come out of darpa it's all come out of the the weapons labs this has all 0.84

00:22:14.580 come out of don't get me wrong they've had scientists at these they've had researchers and

00:22:19.040 technologists and computer scientists at these other places that were funded by government

00:22:24.080 research are working with government researchers are working off of grants by by the government

00:22:29.200 and they did tremendous work but they talk about public private partnerships bang that's the old

00:22:34.620 thing for the government that that's the merger that's the state capitalism that uh the government

00:22:40.520 wants that's that's the ccp's model model total authoritarian what was described there and then later in the 0.95

00:22:48.380 day favor had the interview with uh with um with musk and they just kind of laughed yeah it's impossible

00:22:54.480 you know cory booker well i can't put the genie back in the bottle well who says you can't who says

00:23:01.600 you can't that's a huge decision we're making right now just understand take your number two pencil out

00:23:07.720 and write down in may of 2023 humanity humanity and the uh greatest republic in the history of man

00:23:16.660 the bastion of freedom of free men and women uh essentially made a decision well it's too late

00:23:24.100 we just got to go with this after that hearing i'm a hardcore luddite no i don't think an answer

00:23:29.720 and certainly for this audience ain't going to be a biometric scan to to make sure the computer

00:23:35.900 nose and you're hardwired into the into the apparatus joe allen you do this for a living

00:23:41.340 i mean it was enough a little pablum to say people oh we've now had a congressional hearing

00:23:48.800 and maybe we'll have a couple more and you know while this thing is moving at the speed of light

00:23:53.960 to the 10th power and they're bad actors has anybody outside a couple of guys have punched out

00:24:02.900 maybe the professor i just asked the audience have you seen any good guys and all the conservative

00:24:08.160 ink fanboys i mean elon musk has got the maturity and discernment of an 11 year old boy just does

00:24:16.640 i'm not saying he's not a guy he's the man with three brains when it comes to engineering and

00:24:22.420 engineering problems but that does not make you someone you should trust decisions to that makes

00:24:29.220 you a great engineer or particularly a great guy in in in the manipulation of data and the writing

00:24:34.640 of algorithms okay that doesn't talk about forget even your moral character i'm talking about just

00:24:39.440 discernment and judgment and maturity you're talking about 11 year old boy who's kind of capped remember

00:24:45.620 all the people that take a lot of drugs they all talk about the psychologist how they get capped at the

00:24:50.020 time they started taking drugs i don't know when elon musk started taking them right his was a

00:24:55.340 ayahuasca and all this crap that they do all the time but i will guarantee you it was sometime before

00:25:02.860 he became it came to maturity because he does not think like a mature individual and all the fanboys 0.94

00:25:08.820 in conservative inc fanboying on him right there is that is pure totalitarian state so if you're

00:25:14.820 comfortable with that the fanboy away but we're not in the war room ain't and we punch way above our

00:25:22.960 weight on this one this is this is a tall order i'm telling you this is as bad as it gets and the

00:25:30.580 only thing that's gonna be worse is because they're not even talking about the biotech part of it which

00:25:34.240 i'm telling you is increasing at an increasing rate now in these labs throughout the world joe allen

00:25:40.100 your assessment well steve i think it's their freedom versus our freedom because that's the

00:25:47.220 argument they're always making is that the corporations need the freedom to produce the

00:25:53.240 products that people want in order to help americans succeed but as you've said many times artificial

00:26:01.340 intelligence and human freedom are diametrically opposed artificial intelligence relies on mass data

00:26:09.700 scraping in order to be an effective system meaning that it only works if we're laid naked in front of

00:26:17.280 the great eye in the sky so to speak and artificial intelligence tends towards control the systems for

00:26:25.800 instance they're used in china the sharp eye systems they're some of the most sophisticated algorithms

00:26:31.500 on earth what are they used for monitoring a population and then categorizing people in order to give

00:26:38.600 them the appropriate social credit score and the people who are driving this forward all of them with a few

00:26:46.620 exceptions all of them have one thing in mind and that is to push artificial intelligence forward to

00:26:53.740 artificial general intelligence which they believe will be superhuman the argument that we're hearing

00:26:59.380 is largely between people all of whom believe that's where we're going and they're arguing about how fast we

00:27:06.280 should go to get there at meta you have yan lakun their chief scientist he wants to go as fast as possible

00:27:14.020 so fast in fact that they are now openly releasing their code for their large language model llama and then

00:27:22.500 you have guys like elon musk who signed the letter to slow it down but then immediately created x.ai to

00:27:30.340 protect the rest of us from the evil woke artificial intelligence with his new based artificial intelligence

00:27:37.200 and then you have sam altman who occasionally talks about how concerned he is about humanity

00:27:42.660 but then offers things like biometric scans in order to save humanity from the mass confusion that his

00:27:50.880 technology is creating and he believes read his essay moore's law of everything he believes humans will

00:27:57.760 basically be replaced by the systems he is working on and on and on and on eliezer yudkowski the loudest

00:28:08.160 voice against artificial intelligence development he is talking about bombing data centers but ultimately

00:28:15.180 he wants to see the creation of a benevolent artificial general intelligence as does mo gaudat the guy who

00:28:23.840 was talking about artificial intelligence destroying us all in his book scary smart x google ceo he believes we are that

00:28:32.160 google is creating a god as a child so all of us here's uh here's arguing over how fast we become transhuman

00:28:41.440 exactly we're in the hands in the grasp of transhumanists that are making the decisions about everyone being a transhumanist if you're not

00:28:53.380 i would like to see a command given now to actually take out a data center and see if the computer

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00:30:29.460 okay welcome back um joe i know you got a punch uh give me your closing uh give me your closing

00:30:45.760 thoughts on this uh people should know behind the scenes people are working on this because

00:30:49.640 a solution isn't what was offered up the other day is not a solution and step number one

00:30:55.560 we have to have a full accounting and audit immediately of exactly what the trains of

00:31:01.580 dollars in this federal budget are paying for in in areas like this that are quite dangerous

00:31:07.200 these are and it was said the other day by somebody this is nuclear weapons to the hundredth power

00:31:12.420 these are nuclear weapons to the hundredth power and there's no regulation no control and what

00:31:18.720 they're talking about is either totally unacceptable the biometric scan or they were saying labeling it like

00:31:24.660 you put on a you know you label a pack of cigarettes for kids these are these are not solutions and we

00:31:31.340 need to get on top of this and first of all we need to make it a political issue because it is a

00:31:36.820 political issue because it talks about the fate of this republic and her citizens and right now people

00:31:45.360 are just asleep about this and they want you to be asleep about it this is why faber and uh and

00:31:50.940 must just kind of chuckled at the end about yeah it's too far gone you're not going to it's going

00:31:55.320 to be it's an arms race and you're not going to be able to slow it down it just is like cory booker

00:31:59.420 that assumption is a massive assumption maybe it's right that might be right but i would certainly like

00:32:04.400 to have a debate about that i would like to see the information on that i would like to have a

00:32:08.880 a uh you know discuss that break that apart as we've broken apart remember we got this audience on

00:32:16.520 the debt ceiling you know a year ago when nobody was talking about now it's the thing it's the main

00:32:22.260 thing of how to choke down this uh this out of control um federal apparatus and stop the madness

00:32:30.960 of destroying this republic so we can make it we can we we have the ability with this audience in this

00:32:40.140 platform to make it a thing and we've got to make it a thing because it's not going to happen without

00:32:46.540 you this is why we brought joe allen on a couple of years ago and this is why we continue to press

00:32:53.360 this and give you articles and joe's joe's spot on the war room on you go on the website is the is the

00:33:00.660 best knowledge you go there you got all the articles got all the information i mean he's a one-man

00:33:04.720 drudge in this area he's also working on a special project i think we'll be able to announce in a

00:33:09.720 couple of weeks that will blow people away and will be on this he's been working on this for a while

00:33:15.920 over a year so joe any closing thoughts i know you got to get back to work uh and i appreciate you

00:33:22.520 taking the time to pull you off the project to watch the hearing the other day and to give us your

00:33:26.400 thoughts but um here's the the thing i want to leave people with they're trying to take your agency

00:33:34.820 and give agency to a machine they're trying to take your agency your human agency which is what

00:33:42.000 um divine providence endowed you with your your your your your reason your mind your spirit your soul

00:33:51.680 coupled with your physical body to you know whether you call it dharma or dao or the holy spirit or

00:34:00.460 your soul the thing that makes you quintessentially human and what you will be weighed and measured on

00:34:07.460 if you're a believer in the judeo-christian west what you will eventually be weighed and measured on

00:34:11.460 by divine providence is your agency your agency you are what your record says you are

00:34:21.060 what they're doing is taking your agency away and they are and these are the worst people in the

00:34:29.560 world think about it is any of these people you've seen up there would you allow them would you allow

00:34:34.300 your would you put your children's destiny in their hands would you put your fate and destiny in your

00:34:39.320 hands would you put your communities your church your loved ones your expanded family uh when you were a

00:34:45.520 kid your mom and dad and your brothers and sisters would you allow the people that we've rolled out here

00:34:50.540 on these clips they see that would you put put all of that everything you love and cherish would you put

00:34:57.260 it in their hands let them make the decision would you let elon musk make the decisions of what you love

00:35:03.920 most and what is most most defined you uh as a human would you because if you would then we're heading

00:35:14.840 down the right path if you wouldn't then we got a course correct and and and i hate to put another

00:35:22.360 burden on you with everything else that we talk about and discuss and have you do but that's why

00:35:28.560 you know that's why this country is what it is that's why we had the revolution that's why we

00:35:33.160 had the civil war that's what we were the deciding factor even with our allies the russians and the

00:35:39.640 chinese that took the brunt of the of the assault of the fascist we were the deciding factor in world

00:35:45.900 war one and world war two and the cold war the great wars of the 20th century by common you know

00:35:51.820 basically the common man and woman of the united states so once again you're being called uh to make

00:35:57.360 decisions and to basically say no i don't think we're gonna do this let's do the let's go this way

00:36:01.840 we're at that inflection point and it should be obvious to everyone that to taking your agency

00:36:10.280 and they're going to give it to a machine and then that machine's going to be able to actually

00:36:15.600 program itself and have its own determination of what agency should be that's where we're heading

00:36:23.600 as sure as the turning of the earth is where we're heading joe allen your thoughts

00:36:29.140 steve it's definitely a question of the future and what kind of future people want uh obviously

00:36:36.860 most of the people in this audience are not interested in the kind of future that sam altman

00:36:41.620 is putting forward but you really have to question whether or not elon musk is really offering an

00:36:48.040 alternative basically what elon musk is offering is transhumanism and technocracy with a right-wing

00:36:56.440 twist and there are a lot of questions as to whether or not any of that is anything more

00:37:02.080 than sort of pandering to the crowd i don't know his heart i don't know what he really wants but i do

00:37:08.160 know that for all of his talk about the dangers of artificial intelligence he's right people i know

00:37:13.960 in ai say tesla is among the most sophisticated if not the most sophisticated artificial narrow intelligence

00:37:21.040 on earth and then when you have elon musk talking about he told he told he's told me what he wants

00:37:27.800 he bought something that's only worth a couple of billion dollars for 44 billion with the chinese 0.99

00:37:32.380 communist party financing he's he says that's going to be a cyber that really is a cybernetic global

00:37:38.880 uh mind for humanity his words not bannon's his words he also said in that interview he's the most

00:37:45.380 advanced ai company in the world by several orders of magnitude he dismissed his competitors he dismissed

00:37:51.780 his competitors he talked about the five million cars that could drive themselves simultaneously

00:37:56.000 and to top it all off and not to make too fine a point about this but he also said the election was not

00:38:05.200 rigged that joe biden was uh is the legitimate president united states and that he voted for him

00:38:10.440 that's all i need to know i don't need to know anything else everything else the fanboys are gawking 1.00

00:38:15.200 over oh this is going to be conservative this is going to be trump no it's not you're a fool you're 1.00

00:38:20.120 a fool if you believe that the one thing i can tell you about the war room we ain't perfect but we are 1.00

00:38:26.720 not fools okay and you can buy that and you can go down that primrose path and you're just like the 0.98

00:38:32.180 people in 1931 32 in germany after the war there were no nazis remember after the war couldn't find 0.58

00:38:38.800 any nazis hitler there was yeah it was a man that was the guy the neighbor's really into that i'd never

00:38:43.440 really heard much about it you couldn't find any nazis in germany after the war well guess what they

00:38:49.660 didn't all get incinerated in dresden or killed on the eastern front there were plenty of nazis and

00:38:54.540 there were plenty of people that were backing him at 31 and 32 and went to the siren song of that

00:38:59.540 that's exactly what people on the right are doing today guarantee you this is not a hard one

00:39:08.280 and we're in it now and you got to figure out some a solution they're offering you the solution

00:39:13.260 well i got a solution it's a biometric scan just going to bar you into the apparatus joe we got a

00:39:18.860 lot more to discuss on that but i've got to get to i've got i've got to go from the sublime to the

00:39:22.900 less sublime we're got to get some polling and just talk about the grubby nature of our politics but

00:39:28.260 how do people get to you brother how do people still get to your writings you'll be back with us full

00:39:32.560 time hopefully in a month from your project but how do you how do you how do people get to you in

00:39:37.560 the interim well steve if i could add two quick things uh elon musk's new ceo for twitter it's been

00:39:43.620 noted that uh linda yaccarina or yaccarino is of course she holds a seat at the world economic forum

00:39:51.360 she was i believe overseeing the task force for the future of work and so that should at least tell

00:39:58.520 you something about elon musk's war against the world economic forum uh you can find me at

00:40:04.400 jobot.xyz social media media handles at joe bot xyz and warroom.org under the transhumanism tab

00:40:13.480 thank you very much steve thank you brother you're a warrior thank you okay um while we're on the topic

00:40:20.780 of elon musk saying that the 2020 election was not rigged not stolen he voted for joe biden let's bring

00:40:26.660 in marjorie taylor green it's impeachment week it's impeachment week in the nation's capitalist

00:40:32.100 bling and i got mark mitchell to follow let's do it from your evisceration of graves and your call

00:40:39.680 for impeachment it's pretty dramatic uh do you think you have the goods to do this ma'am the receipts

00:40:44.780 yes i believe we do have the receipts and i really hope to see my entire conference get on board with

00:40:52.800 this because steve it's time to end the weaponization of government and matthew graves was just number one

00:40:59.540 for articles of impeachment this week uh impeachment this week as a matter of fact i'd like to let

00:41:05.260 everyone know welcome to impeachment week it is with the highest amount of solemnity that i announce

00:41:13.260 my intention to introduce articles of impeachment today on the head of this america at last executive

00:41:20.380 branch that has been working since january 20th 2021 to systematically destroy this country

00:41:27.540 the president of the united states joseph robinette biden joe biden has deliberately compromised our

00:41:35.140 national security by refusing to enforce immigration laws and secure our border allowed approximately 6

00:41:43.080 million illegals from over 170 countries to invade our country deprive border 0.99

00:41:50.120 border patrol of the necessary resources and policies sufficient to protect our country and his

00:41:57.120 administration has willfully refused to maintain operational control as required by the law he has

00:42:05.180 allowed fentanyl the number one killer of americans between the age of 18 and 45 to overwhelmingly flood

00:42:14.420 into our country and kill around 300 americans every single day these aren't just americans these are people's family members

00:42:25.320 these are their sons their daughters their brothers their sisters their mothers their fathers their cousins 0.92

00:42:31.820 aunts and uncles these are american families

00:42:34.860 his administration has lost complete contact with approximately 85 000 unaccompanied illegal alien children

00:42:46.860 and his policies have forced tens of thousands of illegal children into slave labor where are these kids

00:42:55.800 no one even knows it's horrible it's horrible joe biden has reinstated catastrophic and disastrous catch and release policies which

00:43:06.700 have allowed illegals to flood to flood our country and our communities he ended remain in mexico and reinstated catch and 0.62

00:43:15.540 release under biden's command the secretary of homeland security has illegally granted mass parole to aliens

00:43:22.540 when u.s federal law only permits parole to be granted on a specific case by case basis

00:43:30.500 he endangered the lives of americans by allowing illegal aliens who had tested positive for covid 19 0.93

00:43:37.180 to enter our country and infect american citizens yet while enforcing strict covid policies on american citizens

00:43:46.220 his policies directives and statements surrounding the southern border have violated our laws

00:43:52.440 and destroyed our country biden has blatantly blatantly violated his constitutional duty

00:43:59.180 and he is a direct threat to our national security therefore joseph robinette biden

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00:47:14.760 okay it's impeachment week mtg's on fire and she understands she doesn't have the conference with her

00:47:21.280 remember she's trying to drive the conference there mark mitchell once again rasmussen

00:47:26.220 you're always ahead of the curve you've got some polling on this i think that's fresh today

00:47:30.240 tell us about it absolutely before i start i really want to get into motivation and why we're asking

00:47:36.540 these questions rasmussen reports we're non-partisan we're an independent news media publisher and

00:47:42.220 because of that we like to hold the power structures accountable and if we see a power structure that

00:47:47.380 objectively has things that show signs of criminality or need to be investigated we're going to ask

00:47:53.260 questions about it and that really sets us apart because other pollsters aren't asking questions about a

00:47:58.080 lot of the things that we are and in this case we're talking about biden criminality and i think

00:48:03.560 an objective person could look around and say that we've seen enough things that biden should

00:48:09.240 potentially be treated to the same level of scrutiny that donald trump was during his presidency and so

00:48:14.980 really to dig into that aspect there's i think three angles three questions that we really are trying

00:48:21.600 to do as pollsters the first is to pick a nefarious act and see if the u.s likely voters think that it's

00:48:29.500 likely that joe biden did it the second is then to ask how likely is it that joe biden committed a crime

00:48:36.440 based on that act and then the third is really to dig into the the level of um support for impeachment

00:48:44.000 so really the one of the last times we were on not too long ago we really nailed number one and just a

00:48:50.280 quick recap there 66 percent of likely voters think that joe biden is implicated in his family's

00:48:57.200 dealings and 63 percent of voters say that it's at least somewhat likely that biden was engaged in a

00:49:03.520 pay-for-play scheme trying to set up and to receive funds for him as a family in exchange for foreign

00:49:09.240 policy policy decisions while he was vice president so really i think you know the numbers for that have

00:49:16.200 been increasing steadily and are now at the highest they ever are i think the news today is that number

00:49:21.940 two how likely is it that joe biden committed crimes high crimes and misdemeanors that would

00:49:28.220 justify impeachment and we have record-setting numbers today how likely is it that since becoming

00:49:34.460 president joe biden has committed high crimes and misdemeanors that would justify congress impeaching

00:49:38.800 him 53 percent of likely voters say it's at least somewhat likely and 38 percent say very likely

00:49:45.360 the last time we asked that question was back in november and that's a four-point increase and now

00:49:50.900 for the first time a majority of voters say that it's likely that joe biden while in office committed

00:49:55.880 high crimes and misdemeanors and the very likely number is up seven points to 38 percent since november

00:50:01.420 so that is i mean a huge uh turnaround and who's driving that turnaround it's actually democrats

00:50:08.180 so since november um the spread among independents is up a little bit um with republicans it's up one

00:50:16.000 point but back in november democrats only 27 percent of them said it's likely and now 35 percent of

00:50:22.740 democrats say it's likely and only 58 percent say not likely so the numbers in that one are now picking

00:50:28.560 up and moving in the wrong direction for the biden administration now you call this grubby

00:50:34.360 but hang but but but but but hang but hang hang over a second how can one third people are jumping

00:50:40.420 and probably how can one over one third of democrats thinks he's committed crimes that uh that would

00:50:46.920 qualify for impeachment sir uh and 21 percent of them say very likely so as of today in the latest

00:50:56.180 numbers joe biden's job approval rating among democrats is in the low 70s so there are a chunk of democrats

00:51:02.500 that somewhat disapprove or strongly disapprove of biden and then there's also democrats that quite

00:51:08.160 frankly think he may have committed crimes and don't care and support him so there's that as well

00:51:13.840 um but impeaching a president probably shouldn't be as easy as it was during the donald trump

00:51:20.840 presidency and i think there's an aspect of republicans that want to maintain maybe some

00:51:26.720 moral authority i don't want to ascribe too much motivation to them but if republicans want to

00:51:33.540 pursue impeachment it's going to be a tough public opinion fight and looking into these numbers i almost

00:51:39.020 wonder if voters aren't looking for leadership on on this particular issue but the question we asked

00:51:44.620 also should congress begin impeachment proceedings against president biden 42 percent of voters say yes

00:51:51.300 45 percent say no so roughly split to no winning by a few points the last time we asked that kind of

00:51:58.460 question was back in august and i think i was on your show to talk about it then as well and then we

00:52:05.620 posed it as a do you strongly support somewhat of support somewhat opposed or strongly oppose 53 percent of

00:52:12.100 likely voters then at least somewhat supported impeachment now the questions changed and the yes no

00:52:20.080 question is i think a higher bar but also a lot's happened since then and where we're at right now i

00:52:27.520 mean voters are relatively split but if you look at the party numbers 70 of republicans now support

00:52:33.040 impeaching joe biden and only 21 say no and independents are split 39 to 40 percent um but now

00:52:41.680 why do i say that maybe perhaps republicans are craving leadership on this issue we actually asked

00:52:49.560 how likely is it the congress will pursue impeachment proceedings against president biden and the

00:52:54.600 numbers are lower than they've ever been now only 28 percent of likely voters say it's at least somewhat

00:52:59.100 likely only 11 say very likely um that's an absolute collapse because we asked that question on the eve of the

00:53:05.980 2022 midterms and and 55 percent of likely voters at least someone supported uh at least it thought it was

00:53:13.600 at least somewhat likely that republicans would impeach the president mark um mark mark mark mark mark we

00:53:19.000 got to bounce i need people how do they get to your rumble your youtube because this needs to be drilled

00:53:23.900 down on it needs more time spent where do people go to get the full impact of this uh of this um poll

00:53:30.960 we're on gab getter and true social but especially twitter is where the conversations of freshness freshest

00:53:37.560 rasmussen underscore poll and also we're on rumble and youtube um so i'll be producing a video really

00:53:43.680 going into the details on this later too if people want to check it out okay yeah we'll link to it by

00:53:49.500 the way mtg and others are going to start taking leadership to mark mitchell's point when you have a

00:53:54.220 split 52 42 45 at the early days of it there's something here folks something happening mark mitchell

00:54:00.820 at rasmus and thank you short commercial break back with jim caviesel the sound of freedom next

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Bannon's War Room - May 18, 2023

Episode 2741： 'Safe And Effective'; High Crimes And Misdemeanors

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