Bannon's War Room - Episode 2752： Holding The Line With The Debt Ceiling; The Origin Story Of Tucker

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.200 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.800 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.560 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.140 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:31.960 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:39.900 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.120 mr speaker at this point what are the biggest sticking points in the negotiation and the

00:00:56.020 president he said that he's willing to cut spending but he also wants to raise revenue as well are you

00:01:00.620 willing to talk about that no just to be clear why when you talk about raising revenue if you look at

00:01:07.880 the 50-year average of america how much money have we brought in by revenue that would be roughly about

00:01:14.040 17 percent of gdp right now we're bringing almost 20 percent of gdp in in revenue now how many times

00:01:22.420 has that happened in modern history only twice in 1944 and in 2000 so you're bringing in more money

00:01:28.980 at a higher percentage than any other time now so why are we in such a problem the expenditures the

00:01:35.720 amount of money government spends so on a 50-year average government normally spends about 21 percent of

00:01:43.100 gdp right now with 22 after the democrats took over they're over 24 percent of gdp so the problem is

00:01:50.140 not revenue the problem is spending so if you want to know where our differences have been it's always

00:01:55.400 been the same place i simply believe like any household like any business like any state government

00:02:02.060 when you're this far out of whack you have to spend less than you spent last year that's why we talk about

00:02:08.840 that going back um to where we spent just five months ago put a cap in there grow the economy

00:02:15.840 pull back money that hasn't been spent like covet funds that have sat there for two years who thinks

00:02:22.100 you should do that save the taxpayer money grow the economy by cutting red tape letting us build things

00:02:28.460 again in america so these are just a few things the other thing is how do we get people back into the

00:02:33.080 workforce right so we're only talking about in work requirements able-bodied people who have no

00:02:40.900 dependents should we borrow money from china to pay people who are able-bodied with no dependents to sit

00:02:48.140 on the couch i don't think so because we have found every study it takes people off poverty rolls and

00:02:56.060 puts them into jobs it gives them a sense of worth they're able to buy a house they're able to send

00:02:59.300 their kids to college it's a very positive american fact our defense cuts on the table no defense when

00:03:07.680 you're sitting the president was just at g7 talking about the fear and the challenge of what china's

00:03:13.140 doing we watch what's happening ukraine we've watched the amount of weaponry we had to provide

00:03:19.820 to ukraine we don't want to make america in a threatening position so no defense should not be on

00:03:26.680 the table it's a responsibility i'm a person who believes in limited government and it is a

00:03:31.840 responsibility of those to make sure we have the defense of this nation and that would be a mistake

00:03:36.660 biden house speaker kevin mccarthy meeting at the white house yesterday over the debt ceiling that

00:03:42.160 meeting lasted about an hour and a half and was called productive by both sides no deal though was

00:03:47.500 reached let's go to the white house where we find nbc news chief white house correspondent

00:03:51.540 kristin welker kristin good morning what's the latest there hi willie good morning to you well

00:03:56.880 talks really are down to the wire here a source familiar with the negotiations telling me overnight

00:04:01.600 there's still no deal in sight there are still a lot of sticking points and just as a reminder to

00:04:06.480 everyone the debt limit is like the nation's credit card bill it's debt that the country already

00:04:11.340 owes now look the one encouraging sign is that both sides are talking and talking and talking around

00:04:16.600 the clock but the question is will it be enough to avoid a potential economic disaster okay this is

00:04:22.660 all this is all airhead nonsense put out by msnbc put out by all of them it's nonsense it's total

00:04:29.040 nonsense bottom line they had a conference meeting this morning and last night i will be brutally frank

00:04:36.340 with you uh there were elements that wanted to surrender right but people bucked up and this morning

00:04:45.560 uh mccarthy was pitched perfect we got that jake sherman and uh john what bresnahan are tweeting

00:04:52.020 out a lot of what went on the conference if denver could put that up uh mccarthy is hey we're going

00:04:57.660 to hold the line they got to agree to cuts we're not going to play games here but here's the here's

00:05:02.620 the key point here's the key point and this audience is always you know months and months if not years

00:05:08.920 ahead of things but on this one you've been really ahead this is why you're chairman of the creditors

00:05:11.960 committee and this is the important part right now why this is a false deadline i've done these

00:05:20.260 restructurings in my professional life all the time this is a false deadline janet yellen's got to

00:05:26.220 show the math why are we dependent upon janet yellen she hasn't been right on anything she's secretary

00:05:30.180 treasurer she's had massive misses on on the inflation situation on the american recovery act on all this

00:05:37.080 it's all on her watch why are we just having her send over this letter and it's got the only number

00:05:42.180 on it's the date on the letter we need and demand that she come forward with what's really the cash

00:05:48.540 flow here because i'm telling you in june as andy big said on the show yesterday there's a ton of cash

00:05:55.100 that comes in around the middle of the month from tax receipts and other ways that just the money flows

00:06:00.700 into the system at worse you may have a small tiny little air pocket but that air pocket does not

00:06:08.440 include remember this does not include any possibility to default it is impossible to default

00:06:15.460 let me repeat that it's impossible to default a default is missing interest payments or paying

00:06:22.260 off face amount when they come due of government securities there's plenty of cash to do that there's

00:06:28.460 plenty of cash to make sure the social security and the and the medicare things get taken care of

00:06:32.980 she would willfully have to decide not to do that might you have some contractor at the department of

00:06:41.460 labor right that gets maybe their check comes on the 15th instead of on the 10th uh is there somebody in

00:06:49.040 the department of education some contractor that maybe the cash is not there uh maybe even certain

00:06:55.720 government employees maybe uh the check instead of coming on uh the first maybe it comes on the fifth

00:07:01.460 hey you know they they they here's what a light is we go to getter if you go to my pen my my crack

00:07:08.800 and production staff here the one i think the only article i have pinned politico essentially came out

00:07:16.000 last night with an article and agreed into in they talked to people at treasury the the the the working

00:07:23.760 staff at treasury the administrative state that does not the political appointees the buried lead

00:07:29.760 five parts down five paragraphs down is the prioritization of payments you ever heard that

00:07:36.040 term the prioritization of payments prioritization of payments works it takes some effort they got to

00:07:41.660 do some work you know janet yellen said there's some hard decisions there is a total difference just

00:07:46.700 remember as chairman of the creditors committee you're the one that's going to be the ultimate decider

00:07:50.820 you're ultra mega remember you're you're you're a mega uh terror mega uh led you back mega legislative

00:07:57.840 terrorists you're a mega extremist ultra mega extremist but you're the only people out there

00:08:05.760 of 330 million of your citizens a lot more now understanding it but you understand it better

00:08:10.440 you have to bifurcate a default is about a government security

00:08:15.720 that keeps our credit rating the pay your bills they're trying to they're trying to move the

00:08:22.560 goalposts no no no no no no no no no no no no no she even says we gotta make some hard decisions

00:08:26.640 yeah how hard of a decision somebody going to get paid on the 4th of june versus the 7th of june

00:08:32.320 and and and the in the and we would do an entire deal and raise the debt ceiling another train and a half dollars

00:08:40.640 remember what that what the and these are not we're not close to a deal when you really look to it

00:08:45.740 going back to the hill story what's coming out the budget caps are on the table the cuts whether it goes to

00:08:51.820 to pre uh pre um covid um defense versus non-defense by the way i'm quite open to having some defense cuts here

00:08:59.640 i don't think that's a bad thing at all the work requirements is joke you got to have more work

00:09:04.060 requirements because they understand when they make them go to work these deadbeats all sudden hey they

00:09:08.920 don't need the medicaid they go get a job they go instead of instead of being freeloaders they go get a

00:09:13.980 job which is the purpose of the exercise then most importantly the timeline what biden these guys want

00:09:21.500 is to push it after the inauguration in 2025 that number that math nobody's had the courage to say it

00:09:27.460 that math is four trillion dollars so we're just going to add another you're just going to give

00:09:31.700 them four trillion dollars to spend and and to to have deficits that we're going to print money

00:09:38.180 or or have the chinese or japanese uh you know buy bonds okay so we're in it now but i will tell you

00:09:47.560 from overnight because remember there are certain elements of leadership that are um very tied to

00:09:55.180 wall street and the uniparty that want a deal they just that we don't care let's spend the money

00:09:59.440 it's the middle class and working poor they're getting crushed we don't care we're making more

00:10:02.800 money than ever remember the elites don't care on this thing they want to continue on that's what

00:10:09.060 you're holding the line and i'm telling you from last night let's say at eight to ten o'clock

00:10:12.900 to this morning total sea change mccarthy saying all the right thing all the tweets out there he's

00:10:18.040 saying we're going to get cuts we're going to get work requirements uh matt gates said it was pitch

00:10:22.280 perfect and what mccarthy asked for is to just have my back the numbers 202-225-3121 that's the

00:10:30.720 house make sure the people in the house that represent you have an absolute in their mind it's

00:10:37.220 totally clear totally clear where your position is on this that we've given them the best deal they're

00:10:44.560 going to get senate ought to pass it biden ought to sign it we're not happy but in the spirit in the

00:10:50.700 spirit of moving things forward we'll we'll take it this time and get you next time if they don't

00:10:56.640 like that then hey let's say let's say we're going to be going to geneva we got nor bin laden right

00:11:00.940 here if they don't like that we go right away we start and border security start adding getting out

00:11:05.920 of the who start adding more cuts you you ratchet up the pressure you don't back off you ratchet up

00:11:12.860 you move forward you be aggressive today's a huge day this morning the conference was a huge that

00:11:19.280 conference was supposed to be about politics it wasn't even supposed to be about this this was

00:11:23.460 members brought up and by the way some of the some of the old lions i think we're going to have ralph

00:11:28.680 norman this afternoon i think we're going to have lauren boebert we've we've scheduled both those

00:11:32.860 depends upon votes if we get them uh but ralph norman's been a been a an incredible leader in this

00:11:38.660 uh let me go to dave bratt dave uh do you like what you hear you've seen the tweets coming out

00:11:43.160 from um from jake sherman and the team at all these different news sites do you like what you

00:11:49.140 see so far yeah i agree with everything you said the content uh is pitch perfect but the pitch the

00:11:57.160 pitch i still find to be almost defensive uh which is just shocking to me it's very hard to get your

00:12:04.660 message out right and so uh mccarthy uh deserves huge credit for getting that conference that's a

00:12:11.620 gigantic move back when i was in there there was no prayer of getting any movement on a significant

00:12:17.780 policy issue like this but you know two points uh which you'll never see in the press because

00:12:24.700 they're just common sense uh point number one is the republican house has passed a bill and the senate

00:12:32.060 democrats have not and these views are my own i'm not speaking on behalf of anybody right so that's

00:12:38.680 the politics of it the republicans have passed a bill that takes discipline it's very hard

00:12:42.660 to make cuts out in public uh we passed a bill the democrats haven't that right there ought to end uh

00:12:51.060 most of this uh you know gibberish around this debate the other side doesn't even have a plan

00:12:56.400 uh secondly the the debt at the end of this budget window at the 10-year budget window is 50 trillion

00:13:02.960 dollars no one ever mentions that republican ceos come on tv and try to look cool and they'll talk

00:13:10.720 about these radicals in the republican house these mega you know people uh and then the left of course

00:13:16.440 is is extreme in their language against these mega people uh we're only saving four trillion out of 50

00:13:22.480 trillion here this is not a radical move you'll never see that uh in the press right we started off

00:13:28.560 with russ vote uh making herculean efforts towards saving 17 uh trillion to just leave us where we are

00:13:35.840 now at a meager 32 trillion in debt that's where we are now on the back of our kids and going forward

00:13:42.940 with a five percent interest rate on 50 trillion dollars that's two and a half trillion in just

00:13:49.420 interest payments that's three times our current defense budget so i i mccarthy uh was pitch perfect but

00:13:56.500 the pitch i wish just get aggressive just tell the american people we have the moral high ground

00:14:02.220 they do not i think you tell by the way we've got social security one of the biggest messaging things

00:14:08.920 as you and i've talked about we have not let them uh pillory the uh the republic is a mag on social

00:14:15.340 security and medicare that that's off the that's off the table that's why pence and desantis and these

00:14:19.740 guys are just don't understand what the main thing is here right how we got to break the cartel

00:14:24.820 right now yeah but i agree with you we need we need to tell biden hey here's the deal dude i've done

00:14:30.220 this on many transactions uh the um the deal's good to five o'clock tonight at five o'clock tonight

00:14:38.040 the deal gets harder so you get your guys over there come back to me it's called an exploding offer

00:14:43.720 you got it till five at five o'clock it's the deal on the table if you don't take it by five

00:14:48.700 new deal and jam them okay dave bratt's gonna be with us we're gonna go to geneva nor ben laden on

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00:17:06.380 okay um we got a lot more to get to the desk you know we got so much going on now curating the show

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00:17:58.200 in geneva here's my question for you daily mail has a huge story this morning on the head of who

00:18:04.500 and he his point is that you and michelle bachman are uh extremist and you and michelle bachman are

00:18:15.500 nervous nellies and you and michelle bachman are hysterical and he he and the who and the world

00:18:21.700 health assembly are trying to protect mankind for these great biblical pandemics that are all before

00:18:28.740 us ma'am your response i mentioned yesterday steve you know that the theme for this year's world health

00:18:37.200 assembly is saving lives uh but it is actually in reality surveilling lives and it is always the same

00:18:46.700 playbook they use crises and they use these pretexts of wanting to help save mankind and protect

00:18:55.260 mankind and offer us health coverage and security all uh these are all very lofty ideals that people

00:19:03.320 can get behind obviously uh but when you look at actually what is being proposed and what they are

00:19:09.900 setting up for us it is in fact the exact opposite they want uh death in essence to say it very strongly

00:19:18.560 they will probably say that i'm an extremist even more so for saying that but this is exactly why

00:19:24.860 you know i mentioned very briefly yesterday um my friend and i we started this website called

00:19:30.860 we hurt others uh w-h-o we hurt others because this is exactly what they do we cannot sugarcoat it

00:19:39.780 they want to hurt us they lie about what it is they are trying to do with their agenda and uh they

00:19:47.300 actually poison us when we look at these mass inoculation programs that they have for us with very

00:19:53.680 dubious substances and uh in conjunction with mass immunization programs that they have been rolling

00:20:01.020 out for decades now with the intensification obviously of h1n1 and uh covid they are using this

00:20:09.840 in conjunction with digital ids so that you know we can be the authorities can be kept up to date

00:20:16.780 with these inoculations everything goes hand in hand this entire surveillance mass tracking biosecurity

00:20:25.240 state that they want to implement goes through this extension consolidation and centralization of the

00:20:33.760 powers of the who and i've mentioned this many times when i've come on the show steve you know

00:20:39.200 this goes hand in hand with the destruction of u.s sovereignty the u.s is the one nation that stands

00:20:49.440 in the way of this new world order of this world government and coming back to the opening of the

00:20:55.380 of the show of your show steve and your monologue you need to defund the who and exit the who and that'll

00:21:03.200 be already a good chunk of the budget problem that will be sorted so you're adamant in your in your

00:21:12.960 thinking by the way you and naomi wolf uh warned us about this you know at the beginning you know in

00:21:18.080 the pain and i think in 2020 2021 uh that this day was coming uh you believe that this is a that what's

00:21:26.120 really going on here when you connect all these dots of what their efforts are is a mass surveillance

00:21:31.880 program uh for every former citizen of a nation in the world where they have absolute and total

00:21:38.340 control is that is that your is that is that the theory of your case yes nations will be merely

00:21:44.440 outlined on a map that's it there will be no more nations so to speak or national sovereignty or

00:21:52.100 governments that are supposed to represent the will of the people all of this is being eradicated

00:21:58.540 and the plans are being drawn up here in geneva and i just want to say because i think it's important

00:22:04.380 to remember everyone that on the first day that the biden regime was installed a few hours after this

00:22:13.240 very phony inauguration one of the executive orders that was signed um by biden was

00:22:21.840 the re-entering of the united states uh to the who as a member state and ever since the united

00:22:29.620 states government i mean the the regime the biden regime has been working hand in hand with the who

00:22:37.780 to further these plans through um this pandemic preparedness agenda as they refer to it and you had

00:22:47.800 the permanent mission wait i have uh the name here because it's actually quite complicated but

00:22:54.320 the permanent mission of the united states of america to the united nations office and other

00:23:00.460 international organizations organizations in geneva that's the full name of the body that is here in

00:23:06.700 geneva representing the united states government they actually sent a letter with proposed proposed

00:23:14.800 amendments to the international health regulations regulations in january 2022 with uh the um with an

00:23:22.260 official letter from lois pace from the health and human services department of the government and

00:23:28.120 they are actually the ones that kicked off this process of amending the international health

00:23:34.760 regulations in conjunction you know parallel to the pandemic accord that is also being put forward

00:23:43.000 by member states at the who so the the biden regime is actually driving the eradication of its own country's

00:23:54.240 sovereignty you have a rogue band of people at the head of the country of your country that absolutely

00:24:03.240 hate america and want to completely hand the country to the globalists your unit party has sold out

00:24:11.100 and you know michelle badman made this a very correct point why don't you have senators here why don't you

00:24:17.580 have congressmen here because almost every single one of them except for a few that are speaking about

00:24:24.400 this you mentioned the conference the other day have sold out to this globalist class they are a nose

00:24:31.200 americans in name only whether they are on the left side or the right side democrat or republican it

00:24:38.200 doesn't matter they just are not representing america in any way shape or form

00:24:43.980 nor has there been um and you've done such a great job of exposing this and of course reggie

00:24:51.740 little john i think we now have 24 25 congressmen all the quote-unquote mega extremists that have now

00:24:58.060 signed up for this but here's the thing i find shocking that in europe uh with all the prosperity in

00:25:03.660 europe and in in uh you know places like switzerland and places like the united kingdom where

00:25:08.860 people have really very much focused on their individual liberty personal freedom is there any

00:25:14.700 grassroots i mean is there any effort at all of anybody to stand up what's happening there

00:25:20.620 besides the american contingent of you and michelle bachman and the war room and others

00:25:26.040 no there are thankfully you know but we're not getting here in europe as much traction as in the united

00:25:32.880 states and you know james rogowski just launched a website called worldwide exit the who.com i think

00:25:41.380 which lists in all the different countries the ways that people can get involved you know whether you're

00:25:46.900 in the uk australia uh france etc the different grassroots uh organizations that are um fighting this

00:25:55.320 and that are standing up against this but of course the media here in europe is even more captured

00:26:01.440 than in the united states of america so that's also a large part um the reason why we're not hearing

00:26:08.260 about these types of groups like the sovereignty coalition like um your children etc and other

00:26:15.200 amazing guests that you bring into the show that are alerting the people uh to this power grab

00:26:20.940 uh nor if you could uh by the way i want to give all your sites right now so people can go

00:26:28.320 during it we would love you to hold on or get back to you in the next hour we get michelle bachman

00:26:32.140 and others uh where do people go to all these new sites that you've got in in your social media

00:26:37.100 sure so the website is called we hurt others.com it's a repository of all the official documents of the

00:26:46.700 who different articles different resources uh in terms of organizations and news outlets we wanted

00:26:54.540 to bring together all this valuable information and try to organize it in a helpful matter because

00:27:01.280 there's just so much information they are attacking us on so many fronts through this one organization

00:27:07.860 the who which has been weaponized against us they are not saving lives on the very contrary they are

00:27:15.440 hurting lives

00:27:16.680 one of the reasons nor is so valuable to freedom throughout the world is she's in geneva and uh

00:27:25.220 you know michelle bachman talked about caesar and the big battles with the uh with the

00:27:29.180 swiss at the time when the roman republic pre-empire was expanding through gaul and through that and and

00:27:35.940 how important geneva was strategically just remember the united nations what you see in new york is just the

00:27:42.380 that's the performative part you got the security council obviously but in geneva is the engine room

00:27:47.920 geneva is where it all happens geneva is where all these huge institutions of the united nations paid for by you

00:27:54.660 you got unesco you got who you got all of them and by the way they're infested infested

00:27:59.620 with the chinese communist party ambassador bremberg who we sent over there would give us that chapter and verse nor just

00:28:05.500 hang on we're going to come back to you in the next hour nor bin laden live in geneva the world health

00:28:10.480 organization this this meeting michelle bachman's been there i think for five days now we're going to

00:28:15.100 get a couple more days out of her before she heads back a lot in the debt ceiling um uh a ton going on

00:28:21.000 this morning we're going to get it all in we're going to juggle a few balls we're keeping our hand on

00:28:25.020 the pulse at least stefanik just gave a incredible uh press conference a minute ago i think going to the

00:28:30.960 floor right now is mtg on the impeachment i think she's extending impeachment week the subcommittee

00:28:36.000 she's on for on the pandemic sent a hold your documents to the head of c the former head of

00:28:41.360 cdc or the cdc dr walensky stepping down preserve your documents all of it next we've got uh very

00:28:48.660 special guest very special guest chadwick moore the official biographer i guess we can say that the

00:28:54.560 official biographer tucker frost next in the war room we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice

00:29:01.060 when there's no more let's take down friends it's hard to trust anything anymore our most important

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00:30:39.600 hey guys chabak moore here i'm the author of a new biography about tucker carlson titled tucker

00:30:50.980 i have spent the last year researching and writing this book and during that time i've gotten to know

00:30:57.180 tucker his family his friends and his staff very well in fact i've gotten to know tucker the person

00:31:03.380 not the caricature that his enemies try to portray i was working closely with tucker when he was taken

00:31:09.300 off the air by fox and as some of you know i was also a regular on his show and i happened to be a

00:31:15.840 guest on the final episode of the show which was on april 21st i've also seen the monologue that tucker

00:31:22.000 planned to deliver on monday april 24th before his show was abruptly taken off the air that monologue

00:31:30.080 dealt with among other things investigations around january 6th and particularly ray epps the

00:31:36.720 only person captured on video inciting people to violence at the capitol that day and allegedly an

00:31:42.460 fbi informant who still has not been arrested or charged ironically a good part of the monologue

00:31:48.260 also dealt with the people and forces that are trying to silence him like aoc and others in

00:31:53.820 government it has now been reported that his firing was a condition demanded by dominion as part of

00:31:59.580 the settlement with fox although dominion has denied this my sources have intimate knowledge

00:32:05.320 of the situation and they have assured me even before this news leaked that that is in fact the

00:32:10.800 truth if that is true it would mean that a small group of people who have a controlling interest in

00:32:17.240 dominion have managed to silence what is arguably the most important and influential conservative voice

00:32:23.700 in the country possibly until after the next presidential election knowing tucker's i do i'm confident that

00:32:31.160 he will not be silenced as i'm sure all of you are as well if you're interested in knowing more if you

00:32:36.320 want to know about who tucker is about his history his passions and what motivates him again the title

00:32:42.880 the book is tucker and it's available for pre-order now at tucker the book.com or wherever books are sold

00:32:48.700 now uh honored now honored to have on here on uh uh tuesday 23 may in the year of l or 2023 i think i

00:32:59.300 missed that part in the beginning because doing so much debt ceiling um chadwick moore uh the

00:33:04.040 biographer of tucker carlson um chadwick first that's a pretty big that that dominion made this

00:33:13.320 as a side deal as a verbal deal with the fox guys that we need a scalp and that scalp's got to be

00:33:18.600 tucker carlson is that is that is that your theory the case here that you believe that is what happened

00:33:23.780 so that is what multiple people who are very close to the situation have assured me is the case and this

00:33:30.960 news was obviously it had been rumored uh there had been reports that this is what had happened

00:33:36.720 these people told me this before that news leaked there were other uh producers fox producers who

00:33:42.720 were not my sources caught on hidden camera who also said that this was the case but my sources said

00:33:47.900 with great assurance that this is in fact definitely the reason why and uh dominion has of course denied

00:33:54.380 this fox has also denied this but i have no reason to leave that these sources do not know what

00:33:58.900 they're talking about or they or that they're misleading me in any way um they're very sure

00:34:02.740 that dominion that i was told that this agreement was reached literally moments before they were

00:34:08.340 about to go to trial with fox news fox news desperately did not want to go to trial my sources

00:34:13.700 said the reason for that was simply they didn't want rupert murdoch to testify and in fact i had other

00:34:19.020 people at fox tell me that uh fox thought they would win the case if they went to trial they thought

00:34:23.100 they had a really strong case it would actually prevail but for that reason they didn't and this was a

00:34:27.620 last minute uh part of the settlement uh agreement that was reached uh that that they would pull

00:34:33.140 tucker carlson off the air uh he was then told it was about six days later after that agreement was

00:34:38.060 reached that he was pulled off i i think chadwick moore and this tells you the about the quality of the

00:34:44.720 biography you're going to get i i believe uh strongly that with chadwick moore and this is backed up by

00:34:51.020 some of the james o'keefe videos and other things we know and people we know at fox uh but in the big

00:34:57.760 reveal here is not just that they wanted a scalp i had actually heard they offered up hannity and they

00:35:03.700 said no we want tucker carlson uh and fox agreed to it but as people remember on this show for the last

00:35:09.740 couple of months in particular i was going to i think when i did the beat down of murdoch from the

00:35:13.600 main stage at cpac because i think the murdochs are total complete scumbags um the um because time

00:35:21.000 can trade if you read the remember the from the moment the depositions came out and we read them

00:35:25.960 and i came back to the audience and said hey if you read the deposition it made biden look like

00:35:30.460 read murdoch's deposition it makes biden look like the debate captain at the oxford union i mean

00:35:35.980 chadwick for a guy that's perforce you know the image supposed to be succession and he's such a

00:35:40.720 you know he's such a genius and he's got this it was a it was an old man that to me really didn't

00:35:48.720 have a grasp on the control of his organization what was going on or really even the election or

00:35:55.280 what happened and is my perception wrong in that deposition because soon i said i said they'll never

00:35:59.840 they'll start the trial with him i said these attorneys will keep him up there for three days

00:36:04.180 and destroy uh the whatever reputation he has left am i incorrect in that according to your beliefs

00:36:10.540 well that seems to be what people very close to the situation also believe in which they've told

00:36:16.720 me but you know i don't think what what these sources have also told me one in particular

00:36:20.980 um who who would know and works intimately with the higher-ups at fox said that essentially you

00:36:27.120 know it's not just maybe rupert murdoch who's out of touch but really the higher-ups at fox and people

00:36:32.600 on the board who made this decision in that you know they they sort of didn't understand that tucker

00:36:38.000 carlson wasn't just a chris hayes or a sean hannity that he in fact was you know a movement

00:36:45.280 more than a television show host and that he brought in new viewers that were not typically

00:36:50.720 cable news or fox viewers i mean he had the lot of the highest ratings between 18 to 45 year olds in

00:36:56.620 all of cable news those people typically do not watch cable news and when fox made this decision they

00:37:02.020 when the executives made this decision they sort of thought it was no different than pulling harris

00:37:07.840 faulkner off outnumbered or something they thought well we got rid of bill o'reilly people were mad for

00:37:12.880 a while and it was fine we got rid of megan kelly we were fine after that they were so out of touch

00:37:17.620 with their audience according to the source that they figured there was the same thing with tucker

00:37:21.860 carlson they didn't understand that in fact people organized their their evenings around his show that

00:37:26.460 he was that his brand was just as powerful if not more powerful than their own brand and they were

00:37:32.700 so out of touch that they didn't realize this so when people say they don't understand why fox would

00:37:38.260 get rid of their number one host and why they would do this as a condition of this settlement it makes

00:37:43.280 no sense to them this is the reason i'm assured is why that they're simply just completely out of touch

00:37:48.820 and they sort of misjudged his power and that he was as powerful if not more powerful than the entire

00:37:54.640 network what about the organized there's clearly been an organized effort of post this um and

00:38:03.180 particularly the blowback they got from the audience and the massive drop in ratings to not just me it's

00:38:08.100 not smearing tucker carlson it's trying to destroy tucker carlson uh by these leaks and it only could

00:38:13.960 have come people at fox or associated with fox i understand that ken griffin's ex-wife has been

00:38:20.580 fingered as a board member they thought it might be congressman ryan or her but she might she actually

00:38:26.480 might be the person that's that's helping with these leaks why would fox go and try to destroy

00:38:32.180 tucker carlson given his the esteem uh the the uh american right hold him in sir well if they are and

00:38:42.200 i've spoken to tucker about this and he believes that that they are behind some of them at least so at

00:38:46.740 least they they openly smeared him in the new york times by saying he was racist because of some

00:38:51.420 text message he sent which wasn't racist at all uh and he was you know hurt and confused by that he

00:38:57.500 doesn't really understand why they would be going after him uh he's not disparaged them at all and he

00:39:03.320 didn't even disparage them to me and in follow-ups about this you know he was shocked and confused

00:39:08.520 by the news uh but he's also resilient and upbeat and excited for the future uh but the if you know

00:39:15.760 they are behind this and it looks like they are and they did in fact you know smear him to the new

00:39:19.400 york times in their in their statements about him uh and also the wall street journal published uh

00:39:24.080 which is owned by news corp obviously published a hit piece about the firing saying it was about his

00:39:29.540 behavior to colleagues which is obviously not true everyone at fox loved him uh but it i think it just

00:39:35.220 goes back to what i had said earlier that that it whoever is making these decisions is so completely

00:39:40.080 out of touch with with the media universe and with their audience uh and maybe they believe that

00:39:45.800 they're the fox news of 20 years ago and that they're absolutely unbeatable and that they're

00:39:49.560 complete resilient and kind of do what they want uh but it doesn't i'm not really here even to

00:39:53.800 disparage fox i i was a regular on fox news for the last seven years i do not think i'll ever be asked

00:39:59.360 on again even though i've never said anything bad about them but simply because i've written a book

00:40:03.360 about tucker carlson um in fact i just had a an appearance scheduled for next week that they

00:40:08.240 uh pulled but they didn't tell me that the reason um but uh it's i've always had great experiences

00:40:14.440 with everyone working at fox uh they've been really nice and wonderful to me but i think that

00:40:18.300 there's maybe some people higher up who are just so out of touch and maybe figured this ploy might

00:40:23.600 work because it might work on some other lesser host um you know they i think that a lot of people

00:40:28.840 in television believe that hosts are interchangeable all television careers are very um temporary you know

00:40:35.280 you're always going if you people shuffle around these networks constantly but tucker carlson was

00:40:39.940 obviously very different and very special uh and i don't think that they've grasped that yet and i

00:40:45.100 don't think that the old tactics are are quite working as they thought that they might

00:40:49.020 decision like that can only be made at the murdoch level but look the the the they still are going to

00:40:56.700 enforce this contract and continue to pay him this deal but hold him off enforce that he can't go on

00:41:03.160 another platform start his own network do whatever uh do the twitter deal or whatever until 2025 do

00:41:09.480 you think that they will continue to try to enforce that right yeah so he is still a fox employee uh in

00:41:15.520 fact he's still getting his paycheck he did not in any way violate his contract so he cannot be fired

00:41:20.260 uh he's currently i'm reading he's not spoken to me about this but currently you know

00:41:24.660 lawyer lawyering up trying to end this he did tell me he would like for this situation to end as soon

00:41:30.320 as possible because he's desperate to get out there and start working again he loves to work

00:41:34.340 uh he um is is is missing his job and missing talking to his audience uh but his contract does

00:41:41.480 go until just after the 2024 presidential election so it's really insidious if the network is trying to

00:41:48.820 hold him to his contract until then and effectively silence him now he may i haven't seen his contract but

00:41:54.320 he may have several legal avenues to pursue here against fox news um it seems uh and and you're right

00:42:00.200 they're continuing to pay him a lot of money by the way to simply do nothing and be silent um which

00:42:05.360 seems um almost as bad as uh what dominion allegedly has done by demanding his scalp

00:42:11.660 uh we've got a couple of minutes we'd love to hold you through the next segment but how long have you

00:42:18.100 worked you've known tucker a long time how long have you really been working on this book not just the

00:42:22.620 writing of it in the interviews how long have you been thinking about it i mean how this is a book

00:42:26.700 that is the product of how many years effort yeah i've been i was uh i've been on the show

00:42:32.780 on tucker carlson's show for essentially the entire run of the program um and i was a guest when it on

00:42:38.500 the first episode when it moved into the 8 p.m time slot and weirdly i was a guest on the final episode

00:42:42.680 on april 21st uh so i've gotten to know tucker well just through that and his team and you know

00:42:48.280 seriously writing and researching this book it's been a little over a year i've dedicated my whole

00:42:52.840 last year to working on this book i've spent a lot of time with tucker uh it is at his homes in both

00:42:58.660 maine and in florida uh with his team uh with his family his wife susie his father dick carlson who is

00:43:04.900 a also a lovely really interesting guy also a journalist dick carlson uh and um so it's been

00:43:11.360 you know an entire year that that i've been really getting to know him uh and and writing this book out and

00:43:16.780 you know we we were actually always going to announce this month and it just so happened with this

00:43:21.860 news you know we obviously had to go back and update some things and get the latest on that

00:43:26.020 which i've been talking to him several times since his show was pulled off the air and and and uh you

00:43:31.360 know watching him sort of navigate that as well okay we're gonna take a short commercial break

00:43:37.120 we're returning with chadwick moore he's got the book of the summer uh i think it's chadwick it comes

00:43:43.100 out over it's in july is that what's the what's the publication date correct it's available for

00:43:48.820 pre-sale now at tuckerthebook.com or anywhere you buy books the publication date is july 18th so

00:43:54.060 that's when the books will ship out 18 july okay talk uh chadwick if you can just hang with us chadwick

00:44:00.440 moore the biographer of tucker carlson who's on the first show on the last show has spent a lot of time

00:44:06.780 with him i think hundreds of hours of interviews an amazing amazing book but about an amazing guy

00:44:12.280 short commercial break chadwick moore on the other side in the war room

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00:47:16.560 historians all of it uh you don't want to miss that um i want to go back to chadwick moore the

00:47:22.700 biographer of tucker carlson worked on this book day and night for a year uh chadwick tell me about

00:47:28.180 the journey you know on the friday night they at least said that lachlan murdoch and these guys in

00:47:32.240 la made the decision quote unquote before they notified i guess tucker uh monday morning he gave this

00:47:38.720 kind of seminal speech at heritage to talk about you know from the first time he showed up as a i

00:47:43.520 guess a uh editorial assistant uh i think at heritage one of the heritage spinoffs to to you

00:47:49.920 know his show on on friday night um talk about the journey is is the book show the journey of tucker

00:47:55.720 carlson because he's come he's in a very different place today than when he first started off

00:48:00.500 as a conservative as an american and as a member of a movement

00:48:04.440 uh right yeah he's so the book is very much his journey you know it's sort of his life story and

00:48:11.520 then also kind of who he is in real life behind the scenes uh and uh you're right so he he right

00:48:17.240 after he didn't right after college he didn't actually graduate college he even though he's

00:48:20.760 listed as um having been a member of the class of uh the year supposed to graduate he didn't actually

00:48:27.120 graduate um uh which his father was surprised to learn as well when i told his father that but doesn't

00:48:32.500 seem to have mattered at this point they didn't graduate from college but he got a job at the

00:48:36.140 heritage foundation for one of their publications just being a fact checker and going through um uh

00:48:41.780 you know letters and things of that nature but he always wanted to be a journalist because of as he

00:48:46.560 puts it the most medieval reasons which is that's what his father did uh and his father uh was a very

00:48:52.840 interesting family life here his father was an orphan he was adopted out of an orphanage in boston called

00:48:57.780 the home for little wanderers which was founded for actually uh the children of civil war uh soldiers

00:49:03.220 who uh whose fathers didn't come home and his father wanted to be a writer he wanted adventure he

00:49:09.460 wanted to travel the u.s and and and be a reporter and he finally got a gig at the los angeles times

00:49:14.600 moved up to san francisco uh so tucker always had that inspiration in his life and he studied history

00:49:21.020 at college uh and then he got his first newspaper job at a newspaper in arkansas and he picked up and

00:49:28.040 moved to arkansas worked there eventually found his way to washington dc at the weekly standard but

00:49:32.520 something that tucker doesn't really get enough credit for is he's an extremely talented writer a

00:49:37.220 very very beautiful and very talented and very funny writer and you go through a lot of his old

00:49:42.120 uh newspaper magazine articles and this becomes very evident and he really made a name for himself in

00:49:47.860 the late 90s early 2000s doing these big very entertaining very erudite profiles of people like

00:49:54.860 george w bush um james carville ron paul and uh his first television appearance was kind of on a lark

00:50:02.820 and he was invited on to cbs to talk about um the oj simpson trial and he'd never been on television

00:50:09.800 before uh and then of course as anyone in television sort of knows once you've been on television you're sort

00:50:15.120 of a part of the talking head club and then you become bookable and that's sort of how he got

00:50:19.420 started and then eventually he worked as a lot of uh your viewers will know he worked for now all

00:50:24.840 three cable networks cnn msnbc and then finally fox um and uh and now that he's off of fox you know his

00:50:32.620 his next journey um is is anyone we're to see what tucker really looks like unbound and unleashed um you

00:50:40.180 know his firing from fox as as a lot of people rightly pointed out and as suspected seems to be

00:50:45.960 like so much to do with narrative control and he was always on fox um stood out for the exact reason

00:50:52.160 that he did not say not only he took a counter narrative to what everyone else on fox was saying but

00:50:56.820 obviously the rest of mainstream media which of course rightly raised suspicions about why his show

00:51:01.000 was cut off the air um but but i don't think anyone really it was shocking the timing of it but everyone

00:51:07.540 knew that his days were going to eventually be numbered because he was so out of line compared

00:51:12.460 to what the approved narrative is of the uniparty and it's why uh we can't wait to see what he does

00:51:18.000 next you know it's it's it's the same story about shows like yours steve with war room white people are

00:51:22.900 flocking to outlets like this because you can't trust the narrative anymore and everyone sees that

00:51:27.180 it's all controlled by the uniparty and the advertisers and so it will be interesting to see what his next

00:51:32.500 step is but with that said now that he has left fox at the timing of this book coming out

00:51:37.160 it's really um you know at least in my mind as as the writer has really sort of solidified this as

00:51:42.840 the true origin story of tucker carlson and his true origin ending with his final show on fox news

00:51:49.740 and slightly in the aftermath on that because now he is going to become uh uh something completely new

00:51:55.380 we're going to see uh what that looks like and what it is when he doesn't have those constraints placed

00:52:00.380 upon him the timing of the book is nothing short quite frankly of exquisite i mean at the very

00:52:08.640 moment uh he has this epic battle with the murdochs uh and then now is still fighting for his freedom

00:52:14.740 because they're going to still try to keep him tied down a book about his origin story comes out once

00:52:19.260 again chadwick uh we'd love to reserve a time to get you back on here because it's just fascinating

00:52:24.520 um where do people go once again to get the book to pre-order it and where do they follow you on

00:52:29.880 social media because i think it's uh you're a voice that people have to now start keeping constantly

00:52:34.640 on watch not just giving the book but uh uh your other uh ideas about media oh sure thank you it's uh

00:52:42.400 the you can go to tucker the book.com tucker the book.com there you can uh there's links to amazon

00:52:47.960 barnes and noble books a million or you can buy directly from the publisher if you don't want to give

00:52:51.520 money to jeff bezos and uh for me you can mostly find me on twitter it's at chadwick underscore more

00:52:57.440 uh at chadwick underscore more on twitter that's primarily where i am on social media

00:53:01.400 for your publisher we just got to stay on watch because the new york times will do everything

00:53:08.000 possible to keep this off as the number one bestseller and it will be the number one bestseller

00:53:11.720 just on on books sold to real people trust me i know the war room audience is going to be all over

00:53:16.720 it chadwick more thank you for doing the book and thank you for taking time

00:53:20.400 away uh today to be a refreshing voice to come on the war room appreciate it thank you sir my pleasure

00:53:26.000 tucker carlson a fierce competitor and uh of course the murdochs are going to try to keep him

00:53:33.940 tied up and keep him from having a platform he can do anything he wants to do now and his voice is

00:53:39.320 amazingly important for 2024 they know that we know that he knows that okay short break room back in

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Bannon's War Room - May 23, 2023

Episode 2752： Holding The Line With The Debt Ceiling; The Origin Story Of Tucker

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