Bannon's War Room - Episode 2841： The Groveling Of McCarthy

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:20.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:22.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:25.000 Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.000 And they're covering it. Some aren't covering all of it,

00:00:54.000 but we're going to cover it right now.

00:00:56.000 So Trump's been indicted.

00:00:57.000 His poll numbers are going up.

00:00:59.000 So primary voters like him.

00:01:01.000 If he wins the primary, do you think he can win the general?

00:01:05.000 And is it good for the Republican Party if Donald Trump is the nominee?

00:01:09.000 And then I want to get to Biden and his malarkey defense and all that stuff.

00:01:13.000 Can Trump beat Biden? Yeah, he can beat Biden.

00:01:16.000 Is that a good thing for the Republican Party if Donald Trump is the...

00:01:19.000 The Republicans get to select their nominee.

00:01:21.000 I think if you want to go sheer policy to policy, it's not good for Republicans.

00:01:24.000 It's good for America. 0.74

00:01:26.000 Trump's policies are better, straightforward, than Biden policies.

00:01:29.000 It makes it complicated if he's got all these trials and all this stuff overhanging.

00:01:35.000 It makes it complicated.

00:01:36.000 It also helps him when...

00:01:38.000 But do you think he could win an election?

00:01:39.000 Could he win an election?

00:01:40.000 Can he win that election?

00:01:41.000 Yeah, he can.

00:01:42.000 You think he can?

00:01:43.000 The question is, is he the strongest to win the election?

00:01:46.000 I don't know that answer.

00:01:47.000 But can somebody...

00:01:48.000 Can anybody beat Biden?

00:01:49.000 Yeah, anybody can beat Biden.

00:01:50.000 Can Biden beat other people?

00:01:52.000 Yes, Biden can beat him.

00:01:53.000 It's on any given day.

00:01:54.000 What about Trump and who the president...

00:01:56.000 Who the Republicans should run?

00:01:57.000 Yeah, so I don't have that job anymore.

00:01:59.000 So I'm very clear with...

00:02:00.000 Look, it's a disaster if we nominate Trump.

00:02:02.000 You know I think that I've been saying this for a long time.

00:02:04.000 But Liz is right, which is, he could win.

00:02:07.000 I think we lose with him.

00:02:08.000 I think we're much more likely to lose.

00:02:09.000 We haven't won anything with him since he first won in 16.

00:02:12.000 We lost the House in 18, the presidency in 20, the Senate in 20.

00:02:16.000 And we could have won the Senate in 2022, but for him.

00:02:19.000 Are you going to endorse...

00:02:20.000 Is Rupert going to tell you who to endorse?

00:02:22.000 No, I'm going to endorse whoever I want, but right now...

00:02:24.000 You're on the board of Fox.

00:02:25.000 That's why I said it.

00:02:26.000 Yeah, I know.

00:02:27.000 I know.

00:02:28.000 I'm for anybody not named Trump right now.

00:02:30.000 Anybody not named Trump?

00:02:31.000 Anybody not named Trump?

00:02:32.000 Anybody not named Trump?

00:02:33.000 RFK?

00:02:34.000 Anybody not named Kennedy?

00:02:35.000 A Republican not named Trump.

00:02:36.000 Or any Republican not named Trump?

00:02:37.000 Because I think we beat Biden for sure if we nominate a Republican not named Trump.

00:02:41.000 Any idea who you think could get...

00:02:43.000 I mean, everybody's down by 40 points.

00:02:46.000 We're going to find out.

00:02:47.000 Look, Donald Trump and Joe Biden have a symbiotic relationship with each other.

00:02:50.000 They make the best case for each other's candidacies.

00:02:53.000 And it's a total disaster for our country.

00:02:55.000 In a country of 350 million people, you think that's the best.

00:02:57.000 It's somebody else.

00:02:58.000 Do you think you win if you nominate somebody not named Trump?

00:03:00.000 I do.

00:03:01.000 Because you make everybody who was supporting Trump very...

00:03:03.000 Yeah, so like I'm a never again Trumper, so obviously that 33% Trump base doesn't like

00:03:07.000 a person like me because I'm very clear.

00:03:09.000 I don't think he's fit and I don't think he can win.

00:03:12.000 Liz is right, he could.

00:03:13.000 And that's dangerous.

00:03:14.000 I mean, you think he could even populate a cabinet that could get through the Senate?

00:03:17.000 I mean, it could be a total disaster.

00:03:19.000 But I believe strongly if we nominate a Republican not named Donald Trump, we win this White House.

00:03:24.000 I really believe that.

00:03:26.000 And so all we've got to do is do that.

00:03:27.000 And I think voters are going to realize his baggage is so big, we're not going to win

00:03:31.000 with him and there are all these other Republicans that they're fine with that could win.

00:03:35.000 So I think there's plenty of Republicans that can traffic with MAGA and win the suburban vote

00:03:40.000 and win the White House.

00:03:41.000 Did you watch Succession?

00:03:43.000 Have you seen it?

00:03:44.000 I did watch Succession.

00:03:45.000 So that guy was picking president, so it wasn't crazy for me to ask you that.

00:03:49.000 It wasn't crazy for me to ask you that.

00:03:51.000 That's not reality.

00:03:52.000 That's not reality.

00:03:53.000 Thank you, Paul.

00:03:54.000 Mr. Smith, I'm sorry.

00:03:55.000 All right.

00:03:56.000 This is coming into CNN.

00:03:57.000 The House Speaker, Kevin McCarthy, called Donald Trump on Tuesday and apologized after

00:04:03.000 he questioned whether Trump is the strongest candidate in the Republican race for president.

00:04:08.000 Here were those original comments on CNBC yesterday.

00:04:13.000 Could he win an election?

00:04:14.000 Can he win that election?

00:04:15.000 Yeah, he can't.

00:04:16.000 You think he can?

00:04:17.000 The question is, is he the strongest to win the election?

00:04:19.000 I don't know that answer.

00:04:22.000 He doesn't know, but he apologized for saying it.

00:04:24.000 CNN congressional correspondent Lauren Fox is here with more on this.

00:04:28.000 What more are you learning?

00:04:29.000 This is an interesting about face.

00:04:32.000 He didn't really say anything, but he said, I don't know.

00:04:34.000 And I guess that upset Donald Trump.

00:04:36.000 Yeah.

00:04:37.000 A day of cleanup yesterday for House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, he held a call, called the

00:04:43.000 former president yesterday to apologize, according to new reporting from our colleagues Melanie

00:04:48.000 Zanona and Kristen Holmes, where he both apologized.

00:04:52.000 He told the former president that he misspoke.

00:04:54.000 And of course, he blamed reporters for taking the comments out of context, according to McCarthy.

00:05:01.000 But that wasn't where it ended, Sarah.

00:05:03.000 He also had an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, a right leaning news agency, to try to talk more about why he believed Donald Trump was the strongest candidate to beat Joe Biden.

00:05:15.000 Later, his campaign sent out a fundraising email saying that Donald Trump was stronger than ever.

00:05:21.000 This just goes to show you that Kevin McCarthy knows that his right flank is so important for him to hold on to his speakership.

00:05:30.000 He cannot anger people in his conference who are getting behind the former president, who are fervently behind him at all times, no matter what that means in terms of defending Donald Trump.

00:05:41.000 And that is why Kevin McCarthy went out of his way yesterday to go ahead and apologize to the former president.

00:05:47.000 And then in subsequent interviews, make it clear that he does believe Donald Trump could be a strong contender to be Joe Biden in the 2024 presidential election.

00:05:56.000 Sarah.

00:05:57.000 Ah, politics always perilous.

00:05:59.000 Lauren Fox, thank you so much for that reporting.

00:06:00.000 John.

00:06:03.000 Wednesday, 28 June, Year of our Lord, 2023.

00:06:06.000 Poso, who's doing like double and triple duty today, has joined us.

00:06:11.000 I got a bunch of things on my punch list with you, Poso.

00:06:14.000 I'm going to get to the Andy McCarthy of it, a different McCarthy at National Review and what those guys think of Poso.

00:06:22.000 Also going to talk about Ukraine.

00:06:24.000 Jim Caviezel was right.

00:06:26.000 Poso's got the receipts about child trafficking for parts in Ukraine.

00:06:32.000 And also talk about these Russian generals and the situation with the, as I call it, the warlordism, maybe being cut off at the knees.

00:06:38.000 I want to go back to McCarthy.

00:06:40.000 So, you know, he's groveling and McCarthy's guys can understand there's an active search underway for your replacement.

00:06:46.000 OK, so you're you're on the clock, as we say.

00:06:49.000 You can call Trump and grovel all you want.

00:06:52.000 OK, you can grovel all you want.

00:06:53.000 They are now totally savvy to what I've been telling them from the beginning, that you put the shiv in them every second of every day in these hapless investigations, this half hearted performative activity and what you've done on this budget.

00:07:09.000 And now we know that the appropriation thing is all a joke is going to get a CR and on the bus and the four trillion dollars of Trump's tax tax is going to hit the day he takes the oath of office.

00:07:20.000 All you've done is screw up this country. It's time for you to go, bro.

00:07:23.000 And we don't need a motion to vacate. OK, and he grovels.

00:07:27.000 I want to get that. But more importantly, is his mentor, his mentors, Paul Ryan.

00:07:31.000 Those are very dangerous words that Paul Ryan are saying.

00:07:34.000 And I can't understand why Murdoch, as corrupt as those foreigners are, how he can be on the board of directors, board of directors of a major company. 1.00

00:07:43.000 I don't know how he's sitting on the board of directors of a major media company.

00:07:46.000 And if you out there are a Fox watcher, I've said forever it's TV for stupid people because it is.

00:07:53.000 But now it's dangerous TV because you just heard a board member.

00:07:57.000 Please tell me in the history of this country where any board member of a media company has come out and said dangerous terms like that.

00:08:05.000 And quite frankly, I think he's put Trump's life in jeopardy.

00:08:09.000 He said that the election of Donald Trump would be dangerous.

00:08:12.000 This is a board member of News Corp said that the election of Donald Trump would be dangerous for the country.

00:08:17.000 Is he trying to I mean, is the Secret Service going to check into this?

00:08:21.000 What was he talking about there?

00:08:23.000 Jack Posobiec, your thoughts, brother?

00:08:25.000 I mean, Steve, my first thought looking at Paul Ryan in that video is this is a guy who has aged very poorly.

00:08:33.000 I would even go so far as to say Paul Ryan has aged inappropriately.

00:08:37.000 You look at the eyes.

00:08:39.000 This guy is not sleeping.

00:08:40.000 They're sunken in.

00:08:41.000 It's always in the eyes.

00:08:43.000 He is is a man in dire, dire need of a new pillow.

00:08:47.000 But at the same time, even the CNBC host pushes back on him and says, wait a minute.

00:08:52.000 That sounds like you're running a plot line out of that show succession where you're trying to meddle in the process of choosing the next president of the United States.

00:09:03.000 Aren't you putting your finger on the scale?

00:09:05.000 And then you can see Paul Ryan there with it.

00:09:07.000 Look at the body language response that he has this huge.

00:09:10.000 We call that a we call that a cluster motion where you can actually see his face, his arms, his everything.

00:09:15.000 He leans back very quickly.

00:09:17.000 Whoa, whoa, I never did that.

00:09:19.000 I didn't mean to do that.

00:09:20.000 I'm just saying that it probably shouldn't be Trump.

00:09:23.000 Look, even CNBC has got your number, Paul.

00:09:27.000 You were Speaker of the House in the early days of the Trump administration.

00:09:31.000 Steve, that's when you were in the Trump administration, when Paul Ryan did everything he could to stop the nationalist populist agenda from getting across.

00:09:40.000 Yet they sat there and said, let's do some tax cuts.

00:09:42.000 Let's go do a few of these other things.

00:09:44.000 By the way, couldn't usher through the removal of Obamacare. 0.79

00:09:48.000 OK, couldn't usher that through the Congress.

00:09:51.000 That was one thing the establishment side was supposed to do early on in all of this.

00:09:55.000 Gary Cohn, globalist Gary.

00:09:56.000 We remember all this.

00:09:57.000 I remember all this.

00:09:58.000 And then, furthermore, what they did was they systematically kneecapped Trump the same way they're kneecapping him now by allowing what?

00:10:07.000 Jeff Sessions to recuse.

00:10:09.000 Comey goes down. 0.78

00:10:10.000 Then Mueller gets appointed.

00:10:11.000 They never did anything about the spending.

00:10:13.000 They did never anything about cutting the appropriations for DOJ to go in with all of this.

00:10:18.000 Why?

00:10:19.000 It's very simple.

00:10:21.000 They've wanted to stop Trump and stop the MAGA movement from day one.

00:10:26.000 This, by the way, this is the same Paul Ryan who all the way back during, remember, Steve, access Hollywood weekend.

00:10:34.000 The fix was in and the plan was for Trump to drop out of the race.

00:10:42.000 And then Paul Ryan was going to use his role not as Speaker of the House, but as chairman of the Republican National Convention to go in and change the nomination to Mike Pence at an event that they were going to be pre-scheduled.

00:10:57.000 They had pre-scheduled in Wisconsin.

00:11:00.000 That was the original plan for Access Hollywood weekend.

00:11:03.000 If and I'm just going to say it, if it wasn't for a guy by the name of Stephen K.

00:11:08.000 Bannon and another guy by the name of Donald John Trump that said he ain't going nowhere.

00:11:14.000 Jack, you bring up a good point to head Pence and things around though, Condi Rice on the ticket and Ryan dropped off that Friday night and then started trash talking us all day Saturday.

00:11:27.000 And I told the president it doesn't matter what he says.

00:11:29.000 Also, you bring up a good point.

00:11:30.000 I want to make sure everybody understands this.

00:11:32.000 He was Speaker of the House.

00:11:35.000 He stepped down and wouldn't leave.

00:11:38.000 He said he wasn't going to run again.

00:11:40.000 He wouldn't leave.

00:11:41.000 And he threw the 2018.

00:11:43.000 They wanted Trump to get impeached.

00:11:45.000 They didn't have a problem with Nancy Pelosi.

00:11:47.000 If you go back and look at that summer, I kept saying, where's the fight in the House?

00:11:51.000 Where's the money?

00:11:52.000 Where's the fight to hold the House?

00:11:54.000 Paul Ryan quit because he didn't want anything to do with Trump.

00:11:57.000 But he's crossed the line here, Jack.

00:11:59.000 I just want to go back to you one more time.

00:12:01.000 He just said it would be dangerous for President Trump to be to be reelected.

00:12:05.000 He said that would be dangerous.

00:12:06.000 I agree.

00:12:07.000 That would be dangerous.

00:12:08.000 I think he's right.

00:12:09.000 The shareholders of the shareholders.

00:12:12.000 Dangerous for him.

00:12:13.000 The shareholders.

00:12:14.000 No board member of any media company in American history has ever sat there.

00:12:20.000 And if you watch Fox, if you cut on, you're supporting that.

00:12:24.000 The Murdochs have to be sent a message.

00:12:27.000 When I send a message at CPAC, what they do two days later, the next day, they actually showed Trump's entire speech.

00:12:33.000 They're gutless cowards.

00:12:35.000 They will only respond to smash mouth. 0.98

00:12:38.000 President Trump's on truth today, Jack, talking about how they put the wrong pictures up.

00:12:42.000 It's deeper than that.

00:12:44.000 The unholy trinity is Murdoch, McConnell, and McCarthy.

00:12:49.000 And McCarthy's controlled in the back by Ryan.

00:12:52.000 And Murdoch has got Ryan on his board.

00:12:55.000 Ryan's everywhere.

00:12:56.000 Look at his outright contempt right there for Trump.

00:12:59.000 Look at his outright contempt.

00:13:01.000 He said there, I've been a never-Trumper since the beginning.

00:13:03.000 The fix is in.

00:13:05.000 You have to cut this out like a cancer.

00:13:07.000 You have to cut it out like a cancer.

00:13:09.000 The only thing the Murdochs understand, and no, I didn't watch Succession.

00:13:14.000 I don't need to watch nonsense.

00:13:16.000 Watch Succession.

00:13:17.000 Get a life.

00:13:19.000 Get a life.

00:13:20.000 I saw it up close and personal.

00:13:21.000 Murdoch was against Trump from the day they sent Megyn Kelly out there to kneecap Trump on the first thing.

00:13:26.000 And watch PBS.

00:13:28.000 Hey, Megyn, baby, how did that turn out for you?

00:13:30.000 We crushed her.

00:13:32.000 Matt Boyle, one of my weapons at Breitbart and Tony Lee, went after her and Ailes called me up.

00:13:37.000 Oh, this is from Rupert.

00:13:38.000 You've got to back off.

00:13:39.000 Hey, here's how we're going to back off.

00:13:40.000 We're going to have ten more stories the next day.

00:13:42.000 Oh, she's got to get personal security. 1.00

00:13:44.000 I said, hey, sounds like a personal problem.

00:13:46.000 You're going to kneecap Trump pulling this crap that the left pulls?

00:13:49.000 Not on my watch.

00:13:51.000 Okay?

00:13:52.000 So I don't need to hear it from the Fox crowd.

00:13:54.000 I've dealt with those clowns for years.

00:13:56.000 They are neoliberal neocons.

00:13:59.000 They support every war.

00:14:01.000 They're all over every war, including this war in Ukraine.

00:14:04.000 The Murdochs are the worst people on Earth.

00:14:07.000 A bunch of foreigners, and they've got their hatchet men like Paul Ryan. 0.93

00:14:12.000 How can he sit on a board of a media company?

00:14:15.000 He just sat there and said the re-election of Donald Trump would be dangerous for the country.

00:14:20.000 That's sitting on the board at Fox?

00:14:23.000 How does that work?

00:14:25.000 Just tell me how that works.

00:14:27.000 Okay, a short break.

00:14:29.000 We're going to come back.

00:14:30.000 We've got Jack Posobiec with us.

00:14:32.000 Jack wants to talk about Andy McCarthy and the National Review crowd.

00:14:37.000 He's got blockbuster news coming out of the Ukraine.

00:14:41.000 He's got his own perspective on what went on in Russia because he is an expert.

00:14:46.000 He's been right on all his calls.

00:14:48.000 And now he's going to talk about these generals that are getting rolled up.

00:14:51.000 All next in the war room.

00:14:52.000 We will fight till they're all gone.

00:14:54.000 We rejoice when there's no more.

00:14:56.000 Let's take down the CCP.

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00:16:28.000 Your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:33.000 I got a cold open with Poso.

00:16:36.000 That's fantastic.

00:16:37.000 I'm going to go back to what Poso did earlier today.

00:16:39.000 I got to remind you, the great Neil McCabe just reminds me that Ryan left 40 house seats unchallenged.

00:16:49.000 He didn't defend his own seats.

00:16:50.000 He quit.

00:16:51.000 Remember, he quit.

00:16:52.000 He tossed.

00:16:53.000 The fix was in.

00:16:54.000 I kept telling people, this guy's cool.

00:16:55.000 Why did he just leave?

00:16:56.000 If you're not going to run, step down, turn over to somebody else.

00:16:58.000 Let's get some fighters in there. 1.00

00:16:59.000 Let's defend this.

00:17:00.000 Because I kept saying from the beginning, Pelosi, first thing she's going to do is impeach you.

00:17:04.000 Right?

00:17:05.000 First thing she's going to do is impeach you. 1.00

00:17:07.000 As soon as she could, she impeached him.

00:17:09.000 Let's play Jack Poso.

00:17:10.000 Poso, any other final comments on the McCarthy-Ryan situation for our turn to our next issue that we have you on here for, sir?

00:17:18.000 Well, I would say this.

00:17:19.000 Patriots and the entire war room posse needs to take attention.

00:17:24.000 Paul Ryan has been out of the game since essentially the end of 2018 publicly, but he's been behind the scenes, working the strings, working behind the curtain, doing everything he can to carry out the plan that he originally hatched all the way back in 2016.

00:17:43.000 His role is to bring back the establishment.

00:17:47.000 His role is to bring back conservative ink, that earlier order of the party, the Romneys, the Bushes, etc.

00:17:56.000 They want the money to be rolling in.

00:17:58.000 They don't want to have to worry about all the little arguments of the populist nationalists.

00:18:03.000 Don't go to this war.

00:18:04.000 Why is the border wide open?

00:18:06.000 Why are you doing deals with the Chinese Communist Party and the Club for Growth?

00:18:10.000 They don't want to talk about these things.

00:18:12.000 And so the fact is, when Paul Ryan comes out now, this doesn't happen by accident.

00:18:19.000 This doesn't happen at random.

00:18:21.000 What you're looking at is part of an agenda.

00:18:24.000 And you need to take notice when Paul Ryan comes forward.

00:18:28.000 I'm going to play that later.

00:18:31.000 He goes, oh, 33% that are transpaced.

00:18:33.000 Dude, I don't know what numbers you're looking at, bro, but it's like 70 to 75%.

00:18:39.000 And you say, traffic with MAGA, screw you.

00:18:42.000 Traffic with this.

00:18:43.000 Go suck on this. 1.00

00:18:45.000 Throw him off the frickin' board, Murdochs, you corrupt foreigners. 1.00

00:18:48.000 Your foreign kids, your foreign wives, the whole deal. 0.99

00:18:51.000 Okay?

00:18:52.000 We're sick of it.

00:18:53.000 We're sick of it.

00:18:54.000 You're sitting here trying to destroy our country and that's all you do.

00:18:57.000 You're absolutely, as I said at CPAC from the main stage, you suck.

00:19:02.000 Okay?

00:19:03.000 It's pathetic.

00:19:04.000 TV for stupid people is now dangerous TV.

00:19:07.000 Your own board member said, and I quote, it would be dangerous for this country if Trump

00:19:13.000 was reelected.

00:19:14.000 Dangerous for this country if Trump was reelected.

00:19:16.000 Show me any board member of any media company that would say that publicly would not be thrown

00:19:22.000 off the board immediately.

00:19:24.000 Shareholders.

00:19:26.000 Just tell me, any board member of any media company that would say that.

00:19:30.000 Even the MSNBC guys wouldn't come out and publicly say it.

00:19:33.000 NBC.

00:19:34.000 Right?

00:19:35.000 They all say it behind the scenes, but the public come out on CNBC and say that.

00:19:41.000 And his buddy, hey McCarthy, grovel all you want.

00:19:45.000 Just grovel.

00:19:46.000 Grovel.

00:19:47.000 It's pathetic.

00:19:48.000 It's pathetic.

00:19:49.000 The House, all these investigations are all performative.

00:19:52.000 You gave and now you lied about the appropriations process.

00:19:55.000 It's going to be a CR in September.

00:19:57.000 I'm the bus.

00:19:58.000 You've given this guy four to six trillion dollars of deficits.

00:20:01.000 And now, you know, you're going to dump, handcuff Trump and dump the Trump tax cuts

00:20:06.000 are going to come to Trump to figure out the first week of his second term.

00:20:11.000 You've destroyed the balance sheet of the country.

00:20:13.000 You did it.

00:20:14.000 You, McConnell, the collaboration, the unholy trinity.

00:20:17.000 Don't forget this.

00:20:18.000 The unholy trinity that we're up against.

00:20:20.000 Ron DeSantis is not relevant.

00:20:22.000 It's just not.

00:20:23.000 I don't want to hear about all these flame wars and that is on the stances and all this.

00:20:26.000 It's not.

00:20:27.000 He's not relevant.

00:20:28.000 He's out there wandering around Eagle Pass, Texas, putting up Trump's plan.

00:20:31.000 He's sweating and putting up Trump's plan.

00:20:33.000 Who cares?

00:20:34.000 Oh, you're going to do it better.

00:20:35.000 You're an acolyte of Paul Ryan, who hates Trump.

00:20:37.000 Ron DeSantis, you're going to come out today and condemn Paul Ryan.

00:20:40.000 Are you going to do that?

00:20:41.000 You're a mentor.

00:20:42.000 You're a mentor.

00:20:43.000 You're going to come out and condemn Paul Ryan.

00:20:44.000 McCarthy, you're going to come out and condemn Paul Ryan.

00:20:46.000 Where are you guys?

00:20:48.000 Ron, I hear a lot of big talk.

00:20:49.000 You're Mr. Maga now.

00:20:50.000 Where are you?

00:20:51.000 Are you going to come out and condemn Ryan for what he said?

00:20:55.000 Are you?

00:20:56.000 No, you're not.

00:20:57.000 Because he trained you up.

00:20:59.000 He trained you up.

00:21:00.000 That's what you're not going to do.

00:21:01.000 So don't go out to Eagle Pass, Texas, 115 degrees, and be telling folks and lay out Trump's

00:21:06.000 entire thing.

00:21:07.000 He said, well, he didn't execute.

00:21:08.000 I'm going to execute.

00:21:09.000 Where were you in 18 with Ryan?

00:21:12.000 Where were you when Ryan was stopping the entire Trump immigration policy, including build

00:21:17.000 the wall?

00:21:18.000 Where were you, sir?

00:21:19.000 Where were you?

00:21:20.000 Are you going to condemn it today when he said that President Trump would be dangerous?

00:21:23.000 Because President Trump is going to get reelected.

00:21:25.000 You're not.

00:21:27.000 That obviously fiasco in New Hampshire is just emblematic of a campaign that doesn't know which

00:21:32.000 way to turn.

00:21:33.000 And a candidate that quite frankly is, how do I say this politely?

00:21:39.000 He's not totally with the program.

00:21:42.000 And I will leave it.

00:21:43.000 Just read.

00:21:44.000 Read the Casey DeSantis eight, 10,000 word expose in the Washington Post.

00:21:53.000 And you will know exactly what I mean when I say he's not totally with the program.

00:21:59.000 Jack Posobiec.

00:22:00.000 Let's play this thing.

00:22:01.000 I want to play this other thing.

00:22:02.000 I got some Posobiec cold open.

00:22:03.000 Let's play it.

00:22:04.000 And I'm going to get Posobiec back on it.

00:22:06.000 Let's hit it.

00:22:07.000 Let's go to never Trumper Andy McCarthy.

00:22:11.000 Andy, Andy, Andy.

00:22:13.000 Look at Andy's articles out there today.

00:22:16.000 The Trump indictment is damning.

00:22:19.000 It's from June 10th, 2023.

00:22:22.000 Just goes in and in deeper and deeper national review.com haven of never Trumpers.

00:22:30.000 They would never, never throw out all of their credibility just because they hate Trump

00:22:38.000 so much.

00:22:39.000 Well, here's the slight problem because a decade ago when Andrew McCarthy, the same Andrew C.

00:22:47.000 McCarthy was writing at PJ media.

00:22:49.000 Let's look at what he wrote there.

00:22:52.000 Obama's classified leaks are probably not prosecutable.

00:22:56.000 Huh?

00:22:57.000 What?

00:22:58.000 What could that possibly mean?

00:23:01.000 You ask?

00:23:02.000 Pray tell.

00:23:04.000 What could it possibly mean?

00:23:06.000 Well, we see here in these documents that it says very, very clearly.

00:23:12.000 And I think this is just amazing that the president of the United States has sole classification

00:23:20.000 authority.

00:23:21.000 All classified documents are able to be classified and unclassified by whoever is the president.

00:23:29.000 And I will quote.

00:23:31.000 The lesson here are far more political than legal significance is that President Obama

00:23:35.000 may have been a reckless custodian of the nation's secrets.

00:23:38.000 By the way, this is all about the Suxtet leak.

00:23:40.000 So we're, we're the Suxtet leak.

00:23:42.000 So we're talking about the Suxtet, the Suxtet precedent basically here.

00:23:47.000 When that information was leaked to the press, if the leak was done with the approval of

00:23:54.000 President Obama, it's not really a leak.

00:23:56.000 It's a release.

00:23:58.000 It's the guy in the Oval is Andrew McCarthy.

00:24:01.000 It's the guy in the Oval Office who sets the tone.

00:24:03.000 And that guy, by the way, is fully empowered to declassify whatever information he chooses

00:24:08.000 to declassify, no matter how sensitive, no matter how damaging its disclosure.

00:24:12.000 So if it turns out that Obama effectively approved the leaks, they are probably not actionable

00:24:17.000 disclosures of classified information.

00:24:21.000 Oh, what does that mean?

00:24:24.000 What does that mean, Andy?

00:24:26.000 What does it mean?

00:24:27.000 Well, it, well, it means that Andy McCarthy had one standard, a legal standard.

00:24:33.000 Sounds like a pretty good and pretty solid legal standards.

00:24:35.000 In fact, it's the one that we've been discussing here.

00:24:37.000 It's the one that Mike Davis talks about when he comes on.

00:24:40.000 It's the exact same one that we've always pointed out that the president of the United

00:24:44.000 States, every president of the United States has the ability to declassify information.

00:24:49.000 Last week, I was highly critical of Joe Biden because he did not use those declassification

00:24:56.000 powers to declassify the fact that a missing submersible when it was going to visit the Titanic

00:25:03.000 had been picked up on acoustic systems, sonar systems that the United States Navy has in that region.

00:25:10.000 So the fact of that was recorded could have been released very quickly by Joe Biden.

00:25:17.000 It could have come out right away.

00:25:18.000 And yet he decided not to do it.

00:25:20.000 He decided to sit on it.

00:25:21.000 Why?

00:25:22.000 He's playing politics.

00:25:24.000 Okay.

00:25:25.000 We're going to get into this because once again, Poso does the homework, shows the receipts

00:25:30.000 he gets.

00:25:31.000 I got to make some comments at the top.

00:25:33.000 And far be it for me to talk about anybody's sartorial style, but you get the big show.

00:25:41.000 The show's on fire.

00:25:42.000 You got a huge audience.

00:25:43.000 What in the hell is Charlie Kirk doing over there?

00:25:45.000 I, I, are you trying to, are you trying to be Zelensky and get full finger in combat gear

00:25:50.000 or, or Peter Navarro, I got a gun show going on.

00:25:53.000 I'm not, I, I, I'm not a big believer in the coat and tie, but what is with the no, can

00:26:00.000 you bring a collar as you're on summer vacation?

00:26:02.000 Where's Tanya?

00:26:03.000 Do I need the three shirts and the three pens?

00:26:06.000 Is that what we need?

00:26:07.000 No, no, you don't.

00:26:08.000 You don't need three.

00:26:09.000 Just give me a collar, but tomorrow's going to be a tank top.

00:26:12.000 Tank top.

00:26:13.000 Is Tanya Tay in, is Tanya Tay in town?

00:26:16.000 Clearly somebody is not dressing Jack in the morning, but I digress.

00:26:19.000 Go ahead and tell me about Andy McCarthy.

00:26:21.000 Steve, are you upset that you don't have tickets to the gun show?

00:26:24.000 Is that the problem?

00:26:29.000 God, he's a combo of Zelensky and Peter Navarro.

00:26:32.000 Oh my God.

00:26:33.000 Zelensky and Peter Navarro.

00:26:34.000 The new style.

00:26:35.000 I digress.

00:26:36.000 Andy, walk me through the Andy McCarthy.

00:26:39.000 Why is he, by the way, why is Andy McCarthy all over Trump?

00:26:41.000 Why is he all over Trump?

00:26:44.000 Look, he's been all over.

00:26:45.000 So he was all over Trump.

00:26:46.000 If you go back in the original version of the 2016, right around the same time that Paul Ryan was just go back to the previous segment.

00:26:52.000 Now, then during a lot of these guys, these never Trumpers who wrote that huge national review article that was front cover where Andy McCarthy's name is displayed very prominently there.

00:27:03.000 This is the origination of the never Trump movement, where it was the national review against Trump issue.

00:27:12.000 Well, what if you go back to the pre national review, Andy McCarthy, all the way back Stuxnet.

00:27:19.000 And remember, Steve, this was the same league that General Cartwright was prosecuted for, not for the leaking, but for the lying, because Obama's people later came out and said, no, no, no.

00:27:32.000 We declassified this.

00:27:33.000 We declassified this.

00:27:35.000 We declassified this.

00:27:36.000 This was totally fine.

00:27:37.000 It's perfectly acceptable to release, even though they didn't follow any formal method for declassification.

00:27:44.000 Andy McCarthy, before he wrote at National Review, was at PJ Media.

00:27:50.000 And when he was at PJ Media, it's interesting that his outlook, shall we say, on the law and the Constitution was much different.

00:27:59.000 Sounds a lot much more like War Room.

00:28:01.000 Andy's a good guy.

00:28:04.000 Andy's a good guy.

00:28:05.000 I don't quite get it.

00:28:07.000 Prosecute the original terrorists.

00:28:09.000 Remember the original bombing in the World Trade Center.

00:28:12.000 Jack, hang on.

00:28:14.000 We got more explosive news from the Ukraine on child trafficking and in Russia about these generals.

00:28:20.000 The Soviets are going to stick with us. 0.98

00:28:22.000 Short break.

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00:28:25.000 Let's take down the CCP.

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00:30:06.000 Okay, let me bring back in the one and only Jack Posobiec.

00:30:09.000 Jack has had to do some work during the commercial break.

00:30:15.000 Jack, thank you.

00:30:16.000 Oh, my gosh, there you are.

00:30:18.000 Tanya Tay heard the last segment.

00:30:20.000 Is that where I am?

00:30:22.000 Look, Tanya Tay is perfectly fine with the last segment.

00:30:26.000 You see, Steve, look, this is just because I'm wearing performance wear on air.

00:30:30.000 That's because this is tactical, brother.

00:30:32.000 Look, Antifa could be coming through that room at any minute. 0.68

00:30:35.000 BLM could be out there. 1.00

00:30:36.000 I got to fly.

00:30:38.000 You know, you're sitting there in the war room.

00:30:40.000 You've got the mantle.

00:30:41.000 We go where the story is.

00:30:45.000 Oh, God.

00:30:46.000 Unbelievable.

00:30:47.000 Okay, we've got some serious work to do.

00:30:49.000 Now, Cavisa was on here, Jack, and you know Jim, and you're close to him.

00:30:54.000 I mean, you've been on top of this entire thing in the Ukraine.

00:30:57.000 In fact, Jack is one of the few folks that's on TV anywhere.

00:31:00.000 It's actually been to the front line in Ukraine and quite dangerously went down to too close to Crimea.

00:31:06.000 Jack, you've been disturbed about what's going on and getting to the bottom of this.

00:31:12.000 What is the bioweapons labs?

00:31:14.000 Because something doesn't make sense, as we said at the beginning, about why are we fighting?

00:31:19.000 Why is the U.S. in a proxy war 10,000 miles away between two Slavic entities on the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine?

00:31:29.000 But this, and Jim Cavisa called the other day, he says, hey, part of this is, a big part of this is the trafficking of children.

00:31:36.000 And particularly, he said the trafficking of babies for parts.

00:31:39.000 And a lot of people say, well, that's just Jim Cavisa.

00:31:41.000 He's crazy.

00:31:42.000 You know, he's been crazy since he did The Passion of the Christ.

00:31:44.000 The Daily Mail's breaking a story right now.

00:31:47.000 And Post Millennial's got it up. 0.98

00:31:48.000 Walk me through what's going on about this trafficking of children out of Ukraine.

00:31:52.000 Well, Steve, this is a horrific story.

00:31:56.000 And when Jim Cavisa and he's got the film out, Sound of Freedom Now, which is up and the tickets are there, people are saying that, you know, this guy has seen too much.

00:32:05.000 He's too close to it.

00:32:06.000 There's no way.

00:32:07.000 And I understand because this is a level of evil that people don't want to have to confront on a regular basis because it's uncomfortable.

00:32:15.000 But and this this is a story that's cited from the National Police of Ukraine.

00:32:20.000 This is not some Russian source.

00:32:22.000 It's not some Western source.

00:32:25.000 It's the national it's the government of Ukraine putting this out that a trafficker in that region of Ukraine was stopped at the border.

00:32:33.000 So this is the border between Ukraine and Slovakia, which is right next to the border of Ukraine and Hungary, just north of there.

00:32:40.000 And a human trafficker, a child trafficker was stopped at the border attempting to steal an 11 year old baby with the intent to sell its organs.

00:32:51.000 Now, that baby was rescued and was returned to the mother.

00:32:55.000 However, the authorities have been looking for this guy because they have information that this is the third or fourth time that he's done this and had been able to sell multiple babies from these refugee women.

00:33:09.000 And what they do, Steve, is that he walks up to these refugee women because, remember, the men can't leave the men.

00:33:15.000 The fathers are forced to stay because of martial law inside Ukraine.

00:33:19.000 They say they go to the women and it's understandable. 1.00

00:33:22.000 The women, the children, they say, get out, get where you can be safe.

00:33:26.000 The woman's going along, but they need money. 1.00

00:33:28.000 They're not getting money that they need.

00:33:30.000 And along comes these traffickers and they say, look, we are going to bring your child to safety.

00:33:38.000 We're going to bring him to him or her to a family in Western Europe. 0.70

00:33:43.000 They're going to be adopted.

00:33:44.000 They're going to be cared for.

00:33:46.000 They're going to be doing much better.

00:33:47.000 And so what they're doing is they're hitting these vulnerable war refugees.

00:33:52.000 They're going after the children and then they might even give them money up front.

00:33:56.000 And it says in this instance in Transcarpathia there that he gave the woman's mother, the boy's mother, one thousand U.S. dollars down payment, said that he would offer a total of five thousand.

00:34:07.000 The plan was to turn around, sell the kid for twenty five thousand dollars.

00:34:12.000 This is an eleven month boy, Ukrainian child, little blonde haired kid.

00:34:19.000 And I got to say, Steve, that's, you know, just looking at these pictures, it makes me think of my little boy at home.

00:34:24.000 And I mean, they could be brothers.

00:34:26.000 You look at the two of them and had the police not stopped this guy when they did.

00:34:32.000 That child would have been killed and his organs would have been sold on the market for these traffickers.

00:34:40.000 And what we need to understand is thank God and God bless that this one trafficker was stopped.

00:34:46.000 But you have to look at it from a perspective of scale.

00:34:49.000 When I was there, as you say, last year, my brother and I were at the train station at the Poland-Ukraine border.

00:34:55.000 And this is exactly what we saw.

00:34:58.000 Women traveling with children, lots of kids around, lots of babies around. 0.80

00:35:03.000 People not knowing what was coming next, not knowing where they were going to get their next paycheck,

00:35:07.000 not knowing where they were going to sleep at night, not knowing how they were going to get their next meal.

00:35:12.000 And then along comes somebody waving around a thousand U.S. dollars in front of you and saying, I can make all your problems go away.

00:35:19.000 And I and I can save your kids.

00:35:22.000 Just come along with me.

00:35:23.000 Just get in the car.

00:35:24.000 Come right here.

00:35:25.000 These are the same types of situations that throughout history have led to child trafficking.

00:35:32.000 You saw this down with Haiti and the earthquake.

00:35:34.000 You see this all across the Middle East with the trafficking that took place there of these migrants up to Europe.

00:35:41.000 Now we're seeing the exact same thing out of Ukraine.

00:35:44.000 And unfortunately, the longer this war continues, the more of this is going on.

00:35:50.000 And it's incumbent upon us.

00:35:52.000 And I applaud Jim Caviezel for being out there and being willing to put his name out in front of it.

00:35:57.000 Steve, we can't be silent about this stuff anymore because it is real and it is happening.

00:36:01.000 You've got border crossings in Poland, border crossings in, I guess, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania.

00:36:09.000 Some of those are more popular to go through than others.

00:36:14.000 Do you think that there's a a organized effort?

00:36:19.000 This guy's done a couple.

00:36:20.000 Right. Do you think there's an organized effort in that maybe government authorities on both sides or somehow?

00:36:25.000 Because when you talk about a thousand dollars, the U.S. currency goes a long way over there.

00:36:29.000 If you talk about twenty five thousand dollars for a for a baby, a little boy, you do a couple of those.

00:36:38.000 There's a lot of money to spread around to do even more, is there not?

00:36:41.000 Well, that's exactly right, Steve, because, OK, you can fire the one guy, but people need to understand that this guy is just the middleman.

00:36:49.000 OK, and they actually show this very well in the Sound of Freedom movie.

00:36:53.000 Now, that takes place in Latin America, South America.

00:36:56.000 But it's the same type of process where there's a recruiter that later sells someone to a trader.

00:37:01.000 The trader then goes sells to someone who is either a publisher or a filmmaker or essentially a pimp of these kids.

00:37:09.000 And then they work with traffickers that are involved in child pornography in the U.S. from the digital on the Internet side.

00:37:16.000 And that's where that's where Tim Ballard's character catches them.

00:37:19.000 But we have to understand these are the upstream implements of how the children are put into the pipeline or funneled into the pipeline in the first place.

00:37:27.000 So just because you're catching the people that are doing the procurement and right here, those are low level.

00:37:33.000 OK, you need to go after the people that are that are upstream or I guess downstream in this case from this situation, because, OK, you knock down a couple of these guys.

00:37:42.000 Guess what? They're going to have three, four, five more people willing to do this within minutes because people need to understand the extreme levels of poverty in this part of the world.

00:37:52.000 The extreme levels of desperation caused by this war, the devastation that puts people in these situations in the first place is one of the reasons that over at Human Events that I know here is a worm as well that we've called for an immediate end to the war, an immediate call for peace, because you're worried about the people of Ukraine that are caught in the middle.

00:38:11.000 Now, I'm just talking about the missile strikes. We're talking about people that are put into situations like this where mothers are selling their children, hoping the kids are going to a good place.

00:38:20.000 And by the way, Steve, just because the guy says they're going to Western Europe, that doesn't mean that's where they're going to end up.

00:38:25.000 A lot of them, they get put on boats. They're sent right into the Black Sea. Then they're taken down to the Middle East. They're taken down and they're gone there. And that, by the way, unfortunately, in that region of the world has a very, very long history.

00:38:38.100 Jack, I want to bring up another element of this, and this is where they really go after Cavie so hard. And he mentioned on our show a couple of times that this is obviously this depravity and the reason that the sex trafficking is higher margin business than the than the drug trafficking is that these women and these little children on the pedophilia can be used over and over again for the sex.

00:39:05.500 This was specifically about parts. And this was the gets into this big controversy that they say, oh, you know, Caviezel is a nut.

00:39:14.600 But here we've had confirmation. I mean, this is what I keep saying, but the people all over, the Q guys, all of these other people, they're all nuts. 1.00

00:39:21.500 But evidence keeps coming forward that maybe they're not so nutty. What was this guy? Was he selling it to a research university? Who would buy, purchase an 11-year-old baby for parts, sir?

00:39:36.500 Well, that's exactly what they're saying. It's they specifically say that they were looking to sell these children for organs.

00:39:46.220 Some of it, by the way, and if you understand the way the laws on this work in different parts of the Middle East, it may have also been for and this this happens in China as well, if you understand how it goes there.

00:39:57.680 It has to do with illegal organ transplants. And the idea that in some of these countries, because they don't have the organ transplant banks like we do in the US, they don't have the controls, the regulations, the laws that we do in the US and in the West in general.

00:40:11.140 There is essentially a black market for human organs.

00:40:15.140 So the first thing they would do, of course, is check the blood type, they would check the age, they would check for any diseases, etc.

00:40:22.140 And then they would go through and identify which organs people would need that would be most valuable on the black market in general.

00:40:30.600 And then you can get them to one of these countries in Central Asia or the Middle East where they're able to perform one of these surgeries.

00:40:37.120 And you're going to be sold to some rich mother, some rich family who needs it. 0.87

00:40:43.800 The mother got the thousand bucks. What is and what do we understand about what the Ukrainians are doing? 1.00

00:40:50.040 Look, these women are in terrible situations, obviously. Right. It's a war zone. 1.00

00:40:53.800 I think 14 Maine have already tried to have left the country.

00:40:56.400 But I mean, what happens when you turn your you turn your child over to a stranger for a better life, but it's a five thousand dollar payment is going to give you a thousand dollars down in cash.

00:41:07.760 That transaction is problematic, is it not?

00:41:12.260 Well, it is. And I think in this situation, because they did the Ukrainian police did publish and I'm looking right here.

00:41:17.740 You can see it even in Daily Mail has this Ukraine Ukrainian National Police website has it up in Ukrainian where the child was returned to the mother.

00:41:25.200 They're saying the mother didn't know. They're saying the mother thought it was sort of a a crisis adoption situation that the kid would be brought to one of these charity centers.

00:41:34.820 And that really is the big problem, because when you go and we saw it last year in that region, when you go to one of these border centers, Steve, it's it's bedlam there.

00:41:43.620 There's there's each organization has a different kiosk. There's cars coming in.

00:41:47.780 There's traffic. There's taxis all over the place. People saying, come with me.

00:41:52.140 Come here. This is where you need to go.

00:41:53.600 No, the next guy says, no, you come here. This is where you need to go.

00:41:56.660 We're going to offer this for that worker. And if you're just coming off of one of these trains, you've got no idea who these people are.

00:42:02.100 You've got no idea who's legit and who's not.

00:42:04.460 You've got people that could come in with fake IDs, with fake name tags, et cetera, and say, hey, we're from, you know, the Red Cross.

00:42:10.680 We're here to help. We're helping the children out to come with us.

00:42:13.640 We'll take care of them. This is exactly what they depict, by the way, in Sound of Freedom.

00:42:17.940 In that case, they use a it's like a like a talent scouting agency where they say, oh, you're you know, we want your kids to be child models and we're going to take pictures of them, have them, you know, drop them off at the studio in the morning.

00:42:30.240 And then when the dad comes to pick them up later in the evening, they're gone.

00:42:33.220 And so in many of these cases, just as we've seen in other parts of the world, the parents are completely unwitting.

00:42:38.560 They think the kid is going off to some great opportunity and they don't even realize that they're actually handing their own children over to child traffickers.

00:42:50.040 Jack, I realize you've got to bounce. Can you stay through? We're going to take a short break.

00:42:52.700 I just I want to get this situation in Russia because I think you've got you were kind enough to come on the Saturday morning show.

00:42:58.060 And I think you've got probably the best handle on this of anyone out there.

00:43:01.880 So if we can just take a short break or take a short commercial break, Jack Posobiec, I think the sound of freedom.

00:43:08.060 This is one of the reasons this movie is important, not just to send a message to Hollywood, but I think to awaken yourself to this situation and a very disturbing occurrence in Ukraine today on the with the Slovakian border.

00:43:21.880 But it led to some realization that this has happened a couple of three times with one guy.

00:43:27.400 And I think the question has got to be in the U.S. government should be all over this.

00:43:30.180 How much of this has gone on?

00:43:32.800 And quite frankly, the children of, you know, I think there's been 14 million refugees, either internal refugees or people that have left the country.

00:43:42.460 What's the status of those children?

00:43:44.800 We know there's what, 87,000 missing children of the invasion on our southern border right now, according to whistleblowers.

00:43:52.060 Very disturbing.

00:43:53.760 Very disturbing.

00:43:54.440 Short break.

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00:45:57.460 Jack, really thank you for taking this time.

00:45:59.420 Real quickly, are they sweating this guy right now to find out who the buyers, who the purchasers of these organs are?

00:46:04.740 Isn't that – we've got to get to the demand side.

00:46:06.540 That's the shocking thing about Sound of Freedom.

00:46:08.500 The United States is the biggest driver of demand, at least according to the film, in this area of child sex slave trafficking.

00:46:17.300 Don't they have to get to who put the purchase order in?

00:46:20.960 That's exactly right.

00:46:21.900 And, Steve, it shows that they are going through – they've got this guy's house.

00:46:25.660 They've got – I'm not sure if it's girlfriend or a wife.

00:46:28.120 They've got one accomplice already.

00:46:29.900 They went back to the guy's house, which is out there in a rural area of Ukraine.

00:46:34.660 We don't know if he was holding the kids there or not at one point.

00:46:37.220 I mean this thing looks like it's half finished.

00:46:39.620 He's got money in there in secret compartments.

00:46:42.560 He's got – a lot of it, unfortunately, Steve, just – and I have to say it, just like they said in Sound of Freedom, a lot of the currency this is conducted in is U.S. dollars.

00:46:52.860 This isn't euros.

00:46:54.660 This isn't – this isn't grivna like the local currency in Ukraine.

00:46:58.740 This is U.S. dollars we're talking about.

00:47:01.120 Now, of course, U.S. dollars are potentially used in many regions like this because of the high fluctuations of money during the war.

00:47:08.620 But we also have to point out this is U.S. dollars, this is cash, and people are conducting these types of transactions using king dollar, the almighty greenback.

00:47:19.700 I'm going to try to get Kavis on here tomorrow.

00:47:21.940 OK.

00:47:22.660 The Russian generals, you've been dead spot on this from the beginning.

00:47:26.460 What's the story?

00:47:27.020 They're rolling up some Russian generals now.

00:47:28.640 This is new warlords or guys that are complicit in this first mutiny?

00:47:32.520 Well, Steve, the big rumor right now is all about General Serovkin.

00:47:39.100 So General Serovkin was the leader at one point during what Russia calls the special military operation.

00:47:47.240 He was the guy that ordered the withdrawal from Kherson down in the south.

00:47:50.660 He's the guy who said, let's come back past the river beyond that initial assault on Kiev, the initial assault on Kharkov that didn't go very well for the Russians.

00:47:59.480 So there's questions coming out without, and the Wall Street Journal's put this out, other Western media's pointed out, that this guy knew about the coup, coup attempt, mutiny attempt, insurrection, as we called it here on Saturday, by Yovine Prigozian and the leader of the Wagner Group before it took place.

00:48:20.640 Now, the question is interesting because Serovkin would have been the highest level official who knew about it beforehand, but he was also the very first high level official in Russia to come out against the insurrection when it was taking place on Saturday, which is leading a lot of people to a lot of questions.

00:48:41.480 So the Ukrainian side is saying he's been arrested.

00:48:44.720 The Russian side is saying, no, no, no, he hasn't been arrested.

00:48:47.820 But look, Steve, I think what's going on right now is the FSB and the Kremlin are doing everything they can to sweat these guys and find out who knew what, who was in on this, who wasn't.

00:48:59.340 The Wall Street Journal, I think, has done a piece that is probably close to the truth early this morning.

00:49:07.000 It dropped 7.32 a.m., where they said that Prigozian's plan to capture Russian military leadership, because, Steve, you remember here on Saturday, I said Prigozian was never calling out Putin.

00:49:18.820 He was calling out Shoigu and Gerasimov.

00:49:21.880 Those are the guys that are leading the Ministry of Defense in Russia right now.

00:49:25.120 And what the war room posse and what everyone needs to understand is that these guys weren't coming in saying that they were against the war.

00:49:32.660 These guys weren't coming in saying, oh, we need to cut a deal, right, even though Prigozian said some stuff like that on Saturday.

00:49:38.260 These are the hardliners.

00:49:40.040 These are the hardliners who view Shoigu and Putin to some extent and Gerasimov and the others as doves.

00:49:47.660 They say you're not going hard enough.

00:49:49.600 You're arguing for these little limited victories, this war of attrition.

00:49:53.200 We don't want that.

00:49:53.860 We want to go in.

00:49:54.960 We want to use the big guns.

00:49:56.360 We want to drop gravity bombs all over Ukraine. 0.96

00:49:58.540 We want to use tactical nukes if necessary. 0.76

00:50:01.100 We want to end this thing in six months.

00:50:03.380 OK, that's what Prigozian and Serovkin represent.

00:50:09.120 So the Wall Street Journal has a piece out today.

00:50:11.700 Listen to this.

00:50:13.040 Prigozian originally intended to capture Shoigu and Gerasimov during a visit to the southern region that borders Ukraine that the two were planning.

00:50:22.660 But the FSB found out about the plan two days before it was to be executed.

00:50:29.080 We, of course, know that trip never took place because a lot of people were asking the question, why did Wagner Group roll into this city and directly target the southern military command if nobody was in there?

00:50:38.880 Well, the answer is they thought that Shoigu and Gerasimov were supposed to be in there.

00:50:45.200 And then once they realized they weren't, Prigozian was basically stuck. 0.99

00:50:49.220 Do I keep going?

00:50:50.080 Do I not?

00:50:50.860 He sends a couple of guys up to Moscow, but he realizes at that point that he's been had.

00:50:55.780 But that's why we saw what happened on Saturday.

00:51:00.240 Jack, amazing analysis.

00:51:01.920 Where do people go on social media?

00:51:03.140 How do they get to the show, the new two o'clock show?

00:51:05.780 Yeah, of course, two o'clock.

00:51:06.640 We're right after Charlie Kirk here on Real America's Voice.

00:51:09.620 And, of course, everyone can pick up the podcast.

00:51:11.420 We even did an emergency podcast over the weekend to break down everything that was going on.

00:51:15.680 Everyone on Apple, on Spotify, et cetera.

00:51:17.980 And then, of course, Rumble.

00:51:18.740 We love being on Rumble because that is the place where we can speak freely.

00:51:24.220 Jack, thank you so much.

00:51:25.400 Thank you for taking the hour and joining us away from the family.

00:51:27.540 Really appreciate it.

00:51:28.260 Jack Pasovic, great job.

00:51:29.780 Amazing.

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Bannon's War Room - June 28, 2023

Episode 2841： The Groveling Of McCarthy

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