Episode 2883： Destroying The Administrative State
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Libby Gafford ( ) joins the show to talk about her trip to Iowa, why she thinks Ron DeSantis is going to win the primary, and why she s running for president in 2020. She also talks about the latest in the anti-abortion efforts by the abortion industry and why it s going to hurt the pro-life movement.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Okay, it's Monday, 17 July in the year of our Lord, 2023.
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I've got Caroline Wren. The Caroline Wren has joined me in studio.
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I wanted Libby to kind of stick with us, but she had to leave for the Tim Pool show.
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I was supposed to be with Carrie in Iowa, and the flight got canceled.
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Posobiec and I were on the same flight to Iowa.
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This is why Posobiec didn't go out and do the...
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He was supposed to do the thing with Steve Deese or Glenn Beck or something?
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Yeah, he was supposed to host with Blaze TV, and then he couldn't go.
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And so I texted the Blaze folks and said, hey, Carrie Lake's there.
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They had her on and it ended up being fantastic.
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And then it was great to stay back because the Turning Point conference was just terrific.
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I thought it was such a MAGA, you know, crowd there, which I'm seeing some of the DeSantis
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folks now push back and say, oh, you know, it was just an, of course, you know, Trump
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CPAC, thousands of people there, whole conference, 90% straw poll to Trump.
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So what conference is it that a straw poll that DeSantis would win?
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I mean, the DeSantis campaign at this point is about nine remaining hedge fund donors
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and then, like, four very online fake Twitter personalities.
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You are very big on the Western states and the Intermountain West.
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You're saying, hey, if you're going to look and you see this article today, Leading
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the Hill, where they've got the lions in the GOP Senate are very upset about this populist
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And you've got Murkowski, you've got the same crew, Thune, all these guys, you know,
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Of course, they put out seeing how successful Sound of Freedom is.
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And the second weekend now at $85 million, they put out their own four-minute...
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So the Hill newspaper has this huge piece that literally is the Trent Skaggs, Rosendale,
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Cary Lake, and people like that in Ohio or across the country are going to be a problem.
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And they're going to be a problem, not because they can't win.
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They're saying, not because they can't win, because they're going to shake up the old
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And for me personally, I've been very more looking at what is going on in the States
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As I'm looking at what Senator Tommy Tuberville is doing right now, single-handedly standing
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up and stopping, you know, mass abortion from being allowed in our own military.
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And it reminded me that, geez, in the Senate, you really can stand up and be a hero.
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And there's so few Republican senators who do that.
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And so really, I actually met Trent this weekend for the first time.
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But I've been hearing about him from some of my conservative friends saying you've got
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And because taking down the Romney dynasty is, I mean, probably one of the most important
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He has a great just conservative backing and a great story to tell.
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But it is going to be hard to take out the Romneys.
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And so we really hope he steps up and is able to do it.
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And if Romney ends up not running, then they're going to recruit some, you know, Romney light
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And Trent has got to be the one that we get into the United States Senate there.
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And then with Rosendale, you and I have talked a lot about this.
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And I talked a lot with Matt Gaetz and others about him this weekend.
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I mean, he is the type that he does not care what people think about him, which is what
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And then, of course, obviously, there's a huge article about Kerry saying out in Iowa
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that if she runs for the Senate, she's going to win the Senate seat, right?
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I understand she's still going through the legal issue.
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They just had another following the other day on the state of this governorship.
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You had a, and this is to the credit of Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point team.
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I have never seen, and I go to these conferences for years, I have never seen a concentration
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of speakers that are in the moment and leading edge, whether it's the Senate, the House, activists,
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The Palm Beach studios are getting up now to the war room standards.
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But Skaggs stood up there on a stage that included, you know, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly,
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Everybody asked me, who's this guy from Utah that kind of showed up and took over the
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And more importantly, tell us about what are you going to do differently?
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You know, Romney, you know, he's a big supporter of any time he's up there, an omnibus bill
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He's trying to be a D.C. uniparty elite and get along with the Georgetown social set.
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You know, I mentioned the moment that Mitt Romney voted for that debt deal.
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I tweeted out, look, there's another 4 trillion reasons why you should vote for me over Romney,
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I mean, to me, that's the height of immorality to place that on my children, on successive generations.
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I was very disappointed that Mitt Romney wouldn't even sign on to the letter that Mike Lee authored
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He put something together to Biden and said, we are not as Republican senators going to
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raise the debt ceiling unless we get substantial budget reforms and spending cuts.
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And 42 other Republicans signed that to include Mitch McConnell.
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I will be a supporter of initiatives like that with Senator Lee.
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I have to balance my budget and have done it every year for the last 10 years.
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The situation that the establishment here has put us in with respect to debt.
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So get serious about that and spending and budget reforms about tax reform.
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I think about, we were talking because we stay very close to our sponsors.
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I think something like a third of our sponsors or 25% of our sponsors here in the war room are based in Utah.
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Or like the angel.com studio guys are from Utah.
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You know, we got to have a balanced budget entrepreneurs.
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Is the word getting out that Mitt Romney supports giving the Biden regime $15 trillion when he added 14 or 15 trillion dollars of spending over two years with a minimum, a minimum of a $4 trillion deficit, minimum of new $4 trillion Federal Reserve printed money.
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And the Utahns don't get anything to say about it until after the presidential election in 2024.
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What does the average citizen out there think about that?
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You asked me where their feelings are, attitudes towards him.
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Look, he's dropped 11 points in the polls since we entered the race.
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He's now down in the 40% range in terms of favorability amongst all Utahns.
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And that includes Democrats, where we know he has a 75% plus approval rating.
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We're showing folks his record, what he promised to do just five years ago with respect to balancing the budget, ending illegal immigration, stopping federal spending and overreach and appointing conservative justices.
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And his true record, what he promised and what he's actually done is completely opposite.
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And the more we get around the state, we are hearing that time and time again.
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Oh, my gosh, we need to get Mitt Romney out of office, replace him with somebody who is truly conservative, who is actually going to stand up and fight, who's got a backbone.
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I have demonstrated that in the last 10 years in elected office.
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I don't just talk the talk, but I walk the walk.
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And people have seen it with everything with respect to me saying, no, I was one of the few mayors in this state that said absolutely not to mask mandates, to vaccine mandates.
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When Biden tried to do that through OSHA, I have stood up and said absolutely not.
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I've actually cut taxes in my community, always balanced our budget and have innovated to lower the cost of government and improve services here.
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That's what we need to take to Washington, somebody that's got that demonstrated record that's going to stand up for Utah.
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Trent, before I let you go, you've got to help me out here, because can we put up the original state flag?
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Utah and the patriots out there, one of the most amazing stories in all of America, you know, but of many, all the states got these incredible origin stories.
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You've got 1847 when the Mormons first arrived.
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You get what at the bottom you've got when you became a state.
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And it just, it is a magnificent, you know, the American Eagle.
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It is a magnificent representation of the history of the country and the traditions we stand.
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When I first heard about this, now it's taken, I guess, the beehive from the middle.
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John, please tell me, Trent, that that is not the official state flag.
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That, what I'm looking at, did not replace the magnificent historic flag of the state of Utah.
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I think the law that they passed in the last year, we have a 45-day legislative session here in Utah, runs from January to March.
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What they passed is I think that does take effect this coming March.
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There's a groundswell of opposition that I know from many folks that are petitioning this, they're signing a referendum.
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I think they need 150,000 signatures or so to actually place this on the ballot and determine if that's truly what Utah wants, right, if they want to adjust to this new flag.
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Yes, that was something that was passed by the legislature this past year.
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But, you know, with all that we have going on, it's a little curious why that's been such a focus.
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In addition to having Romney, who's terrible, I will say Utah is one of the worst governors in the country.
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And that's what really attracted me to Mayor Stagg's first is he fought him hard on the mask mandates and all these different things.
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And so you're up against a lot, but I think you can overcome it.
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And the war room can definitely help to do that.
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I got Jonathan Martin, I think, from the New York Times, now over at Politico, wrote a huge piece this weekend about the National Governors Association,
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And the only Republican governor showed up as the vice chairman is the governor from Utah.
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And he's there with my old buddy from Goldman Sachs.
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You know, Phil's running for president to be, you know, the most progressive governor in the country,
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Trent, where do people go to find out more about you?
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Where do they find out more about this campaign?
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I can tell you the war room cadre, the war room posse are not big fans of Mitt Romney's.
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So they're definitely looking for somebody that's going to become a viable alternative.
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So where do they go to find out more about you?
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You know, trentstags.com, S-T-A-G-G-S, trentstags.com.
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We've probably, I think, received at last count donations from people across 45, 46 states.
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So it's not just Utah, you know, as we were talking earlier.
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Yes, Utahns want to see a conservative, a true conservative there replacing Mitt Romney.
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But it is important for the country as a whole.
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We get one more conservative and you add to a Mike Lee, to an Eric Schmidt, to a J.D. Vance, to Ryan Paul.
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Folks that are going to push back and actually fight the establishment and bring in the type of true conservative policies that we need.
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Just to have one more added there is going to be a huge, huge move for this country in the right direction.
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I've got to tell you, a command performance yesterday on the stage at Turning Point Act Con.
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This is the power of what Charlie and the team at Turning Point put together.
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It used to be what the RNC convention used to be.
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People sit there and the whole buzz was, who is this guy?
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And man, because, you know, Romney's done such a terrible job.
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Caroline Wren is going to be my wingman for the rest of the hour.
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We're talking about deconstructing the administrative state, the state of the race.
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I think Mitt Romney may be running for president on third party.
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Carrie Lake couldn't make it because the transportation in the East Coast has been a disaster.
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It had been great to have Basobic, but it was quite providential that Carrie Lake was in Iowa anyway.
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I guess Casey DeSantis is there with her mamas for DeSantis.
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And then it turned out because of travel, because of the problem of getting there, Jack couldn't get out there.
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I don't think you could get out there, but Carrie was there.
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Tell us about the evangelical conference and what happened to that.
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So thank you, Pete Buttigieg, for being just terrible and canceling those flights because it did work out well.
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Carrie was planning to go to Iowa and she was going to do a couple of events to sort of bracket.
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Vander Plaats likes to consider himself the king of the evangelical, you know, Christian vote in Iowa.
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Really, he tends to go with people that give to his foundation and that's how his decision seemed to be made.
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It was, it seems like a hostile type of invitation.
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He had a scheduling conflict anyway, but you had all the different candidates come and they had Tucker Carlson be the one to interview them, which was hilarious because he basically just, you know, destroyed all of them.
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He was asking questions you would hear in the war room every day.
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And the audience, you could tell, and I say this, the audience 100% knew what he was talking about and understood the direction of the question.
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The political class, and this was Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, they're sitting there like they never heard these concepts before.
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I think Tim Scott, by the way, just some free advice to Senator Scott.
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It's a nervous tick when you just give some BS answer and pivot away with the happy smile and everything.
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If you want to be president of the United States, if you want to be vice president of the United States, you got to, when a guy asks you a question, you got to deal with the question.
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Tucker asks you, it ended the limited career Mike Pence still had in front of him.
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Yeah, I think Tim Scott, to me, was the worst performance in that I expected him to do well.
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But, gosh, there was no connection there at all.
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But, you know, the funny part is, so this conference, though, they would not even allow Trump to send a surrogate.
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In fact, I read something about how they wanted J.D. Vance to go.
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And they were the ones who were kind of, they were doing live coverage of it and doing live analysis.
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And so, Jack Posobiec was going to go and be the co-host.
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And that was sort of going to be the MAGA voice.
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And so, I'd actually reach out and ask if Carrie could attend the event.
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And so, behind their backs, we booked her to take Posobiec's place.
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So, Vander Plaats has no idea Carrie Lake is walking into this building.
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Oh, the DeSantis team has a meltdown because they weren't told.
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I mean, literally, the only people that knew this was happening basically at this point was Glenn Beckett.
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And even, you know, Steve Deese is a guy who's not super pro-Trump, right?
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But he ended up even tweeting out, I have to say something.
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Carrie Lake was so impressive and gracious to me and my wife.
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She served the former president well today because Carrie is just…
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And it would be the best thing because Carrie ended up being on air for two hours bracketing in live time these people's speeches.
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So, that's just some fun behind-the-scenes baseball of how that came about.
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And then she did an event at Mad Meatball afterwards.
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Listen, I want to get to the DeSantis thing in a second.
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But I want to go back and just the poor performance.
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And I think if people can go watch the clips of what Tucker did, Tucker's questions were very fair.
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The things we talk about in War Room every day, things were on Tucker's show.
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Guys would think, hey, Tucker was the highest-rated show.
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Maybe I'll at least understand what the issues are.
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It was like they had never heard these things in their life.
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I mean, you see the gap between what I call the Fox Republicans in the base of this party.
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I just think that everyone's performance was pretty poor.
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These people are running in a campaign that they think is 2012.
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So I don't know, you know, what answers they're able to give.
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Because they don't believe the philosophy that I believe that 70% of this party now believes.
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And so they're just being left behind inherently.
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And so they have no business running for president at this point.
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It's very strange to me that really any of these are.
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Vivek's the only one who at least has interesting things to say.
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And I think is bringing dialogue to the primary that is important and ideas that are important.
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But otherwise, there's just no appetite for anyone else.
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And then DeSantis is saying just nothing of interest.
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And so I don't know what he is comfortable with.
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But he looks like he is having a very terrible time and he should do the right thing.
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And then maybe in 2028 people would then be willing to look at him again as someone who was a conservative governor.
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Maybe it would be a different time after President Trump has four more years to finish unfinished business.
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But we are crossing that line to where there will be no coming back for him.
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You know, Murdoch's out there with the billionaires in Sun Valley.
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And there couldn't be worse timing for DeSantis.
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You know, once they get it in their mind, the guy's a loser.
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Youngkin is the guy that we ought to take a look at.
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For these guys who made so much, the Ken Griffiths of the world, the Schwartzmans of the world, consistently, every cycle, they get it wrong.
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Is that they're so locked into the neoliberal, neocon mindset?
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I think that the donors used to have way more control over the Republican nominee than they used to.
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I mean, it was, you know, the Bush donor class.
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Then you had the Romney sort of donor and bundling class.
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And McCain struggled a little bit with donors but was able to kind of bring in all of that group there at the end.
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And the donors largely did decide who our nominees were in these parties.
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And that has changed, though, since I think the change of alternative media and different things.
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You saw Kelly Craft try to buy the election in Kentucky.
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You see Dave McCormick try and buy an election in Pennsylvania.
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It is difficult to do it now because the people are awake and they're not just getting their information on politics from Fox News and television ads.
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And so money is diminishing in power in our politics and thus the donors are diminishing in power.
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They've always kind of wanted the cocktail party Republicans, the hedge funds, the guys that they identify with.
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And right now I think that they are a little bit lost in their spending and what to do because I think they see DeSantis imploding and they don't seem to want to fund these other folks.
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And so I think that we're all just sort of in this stalemate with the donor class.
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They send him out and his team says attack the media, which has been loving to him.
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And I don't really know the details of this like you do.
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But I look and I go, his numbers are pretty horrific.
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In fact, if you look at that between the transfers and all that, he's running out of cash.
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It's just that the small donors are nothing and they're getting smaller.
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The last thing I would do is say, look at my my money.
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Is it is the campaign almost insolvent on the really the federal money to actually run a primary campaign?
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Well, yesterday, Politico reported actually that they fired 10 people because on the campaign side, because they burned through a ton of cash.
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And it's the same thing that we saw with Scott Walker.
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Remember, Scott Walker brought all of this staff on, had all this money in.
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Jeb Bush was able to raise one hundred million dollars quickly into that super pack.
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But then the campaign dollars are more difficult.
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And so I think that's what's happening with DeSantis.
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And they so they cut slashed a bunch of their staff on the campaign side.
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How hard is it to go staff 11 people that show up to a Ron DeSantis event in Iowa?
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They would show up with 15 staff and 11 people show up for the event.
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So it was a smart move, I think, to shed staff.
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But I think that he raised one hundred and twenty million on the super pack side.
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Earlier, months ago, you were saying in articles, Ken Griffin, Steve Schwarzman.
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Those checks never they ended up being very blank.
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Talk about the the politics of the donor class and President Trump's campaign.
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He's a tragic figure having drank the Kool-Aid of Rupert Murdoch.
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You know, you had Glenn Beck and the Blaze TV guys did the wall-to-wall coverage at the evangelical conference out in Iowa.
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I want to really give a hat tip to Parker and Rob Sig and the Real America Voice team, both in Denver and Palm Beach.
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Wall-to-wall coverage, and particularly Ed Henry.
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Ed Henry, I think, did like 20 hours of coverage.
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I was worn out from the two-hour slide we did on Saturday morning and then meetings in the speech.
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But I've got to tell you, Ed and these guys, wall-to-wall coverage is fantastic.
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I also want to make sure it's something the audience understands.
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If you go to Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom, if you go to Tiffany Justice and Tina Deskovitz's and all the other Moms for Liberty, and there were tons of Moms for Liberty at the Charlie Kirk conference,
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you go to that speech, another Trump speech, two hour and a half, and you go to the Trump speech here.
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He very easily could have gone in rally mode. He's not.
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But these are three speeches, and I say they're of a piece because they're talking about topics about the Judeo-Christian West in the direction of the American Republic.
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Not once, and this is now three and a half, four, it's four and a half, five hours of speeches live to key audiences.
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Ralph Reed's Evangelicals, the Moms for Liberty in Philadelphia, and Charlie Kirk's Atcon and the Turning Point Atcon of the Actors.
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Three different audiences, the most cutting-edge and powerful groups in the Republican Party conservative movement, bar none.
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Rupert Murdoch's Fox News insults, not Donald J. Trump insults you.
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So right-side broadcasting to Glenn and the team over there, to Real America's Voice, to all the people who have been live streaming this, hats off to you.
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You're at the cutting edge, and this is why people are disgusted.
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This is why they're disgusted with the establishment.
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And quite frankly, they're disgusted by the foreigners.
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You know, we fought a revolution to get our control from the British to the Americans.
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I don't know why we're having a bunch of Brits, you know, slash Australians, Commonwealth.
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He's out there in Sun Valley right now with the Bayonaires, with the families on the Amalfi Coast.
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Last time Real Americans were down there, when Mark Clark's army was fighting up the boot of Italy to drive the Nazis out back in the 1940s.
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You should be at Imperial Beach, Virginia Beach, or the Ozarks, Branson, Missouri, or somewhere where folks called Americans are.
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This is a foreign-owned entity, and they turn out Fox Republicans.
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Fox Republicans are globalists in the anti-populist nationalist movement.
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I got Caroline Renn here, one of the top thinkers in this area.
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Everybody's talking about these third parties, and they're focused on Cornel West.
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And by the way, Cornel West is one of the smartest guys in this country.
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He did invite me to Harvard to address his class one time.
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And he's a guy that he'll bring fire breathers in there because he's a firebrand.
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He's putting forward an argument, particularly the African-American men, and the Biden regime is rattled by this.
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But I think even bigger, and nobody's focused on it, is No Labels.
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I think if you see what these guys, walk me through what No Labels is, how important it is, particularly to get on ballots.
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No Labels was founded, you know, gosh, I want to say 2004 or something like that.
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But it was a group, it's run by a woman, Nancy, who, to me, I think it's a big fundraising group.
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He's still involved with the Bush guy with the funny hat.
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And it was meant to be a bipartisan group that was just, you know, focused on solutions.
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And since then, they've been able to raise a tremendous amount of money.
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And in fact, they announced a $70 million effort to put a third party slate of, like, tickets in different states that they're having to petition onto ballots.
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Now, I have not really been in panic mode about this because the left is in absolute panic mode.
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If you go listen to Pod Save America or you go to The Bulwark and these folks, Charlie Sykes is about to just, I mean, have a full-blown meltdown over No Labels.
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They believe that it will take votes away from Joe Biden because if you're going to go and vote against Donald Trump, which that's always our argument is that 81 million people voted against Donald Trump.
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It's a hybrid of that and the fact that they stole a number of those votes.
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But so any vote that doesn't go to Biden, it goes to a third party, is going to hurt and actually help Trump.
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So I've been leaving the No Labels effort alone a little bit and letting them hang themselves.
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In fact, Republicans should be thinking smartly like this.
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And we should be petitioning on and have a Green Party candidate in every single state because that pulls votes away from-
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And that is ways that we could be, I mean, the Republican Party is famous at doing nothing so that I don't know where that will happen.
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So I've not been in panic mode on No Labels except for one state and that's Utah.
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I'm in panic mode because Mitt Romney, I don't see Mitt Romney running against Trent Staggs.
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I see Mitt Romney when the official biography comes up.
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Now he's doing the official, he's doing a biography of Mitt Romney.
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And all of a sudden I've heard over the last year, Mitt Romney is now working with this biography.
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And he's taking the guns, he's taking the covers off the guns that are going to unload on people.
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And people are talking about he may actually step down.
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When you look at the pattern of where they're getting on the ballots, all of a sudden you see, you don't think Joe Manchin, you think Mitt Romney.
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And that's Mitt Romney's call to save the country from Trump.
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I think that he's a spoiler in other states if he does it, but there's one problem and that's Utah.
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If they are somehow able to have the third party candidate there and pull off a win for, let's say, Romney in Utah as president, that is six electoral votes that Trump loses.
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Because that's a solid R state that we are going to win.
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You take those six electoral votes and we're in a tight race, then that could swing the election.
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So I actually think that's the secret play that they're doing that we have to watch.
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By the way, it's Utah with Romney, but also it's Nevada.
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As hard as Nevada would be for us right now, you put Romney on the ticket as a third party candidate, how do you win Nevada?
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Arizona now, which I think Trump will win, you put Romney on the ticket, you get to the Kerry Lake problem.
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Even Idaho, Trump will win, but you've got to spend time and resources.
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The Intermountain West is not where Donald Trump should be spending a lot of time.
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He should be spending time in Michigan and Wisconsin and Georgia and Pennsylvania, right?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've been saying this for a while, and people say, no, it's Joe Manchin.
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I said, Joe Manchin's not going to do anything against Donald Trump.
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The whole no labels thing is to stop Donald Trump, not Joe Biden, correct?
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Again, all the Democrat operatives would claim that they are in absolute meltdown panic mode about it.
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You have such a strong candidate in Donald Trump that you're voting for or against him.
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And I do think that these people, if they're willing to go vote for Mitt Romney, like they weren't going to vote for Trump, except for the state of Utah, where I think it's a problem.
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But when no labels is petitioning on to become, they're becoming an official party.
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Because they will be able to field a Senate candidate, a presidential candidate, a state house candidate.
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I mean, it is a party in these states they're coming on.
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So this is where you see, I think that they're going to try and play some games.
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Does cinema go on to the no labels ticket for the Senate in Arizona?
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She's already claimed that she's an independent.
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So does she petition on as an independent or does she join the no labels ticket and run in that third way?
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You know, and then in other states where they, I think it's Alaska they've gone on.
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I think that has to do with a play with Murkowski because you're on for eight years.
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So this actually will, it could be a longer play that they're doing.
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So I do think it has to do with a play with the Mormon community.
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All the states that they're petitioning on to have to do with that.
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And John Huntsman is actually the co-chair, I believe, of No Labels, along with Joe Lieberman.
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They were just in New Hampshire talking about this and saying why this is, why No Labels is fielding this.
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Hold on, hang on. They both went to New Hampshire together?
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But that ticket, I think, would hurt Biden even worse than Trump.
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I hope that is what it is because that is what the Jen, I was listening to a podcast this morning
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and Pisaki talking with Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell about it.
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Her biggest fear is that they are going to field a No Labels ticket and be something like that.
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And so for right now, I don't want to switch into panic mode.
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That's why he voted to remove Trump from office in the Senate twice.
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He believes in his own warped thinking that he can come back and resign from the Senate
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and run and save the nation from a second Trump term.
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And he's seen now how we're going to take on the deconstruction of the administrative state.
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Let me pivot quickly, because you know about donors.
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The sound of freedom, and you're going to join us in Bedminster.
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This is a phenomenon, but it's showing this problem we've got with human trafficking.
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The Senate GOP comes out and puts out a four-minute video.
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It's got Cornyn asking, knitted brow, asking tough questions.
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All of a sudden, they're all over the sound of freedom.
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And at the end, you've got a fundraising thing.
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I had dinner with Eduardo last night and some of the team from Sound of Freedom.
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one I didn't really understand much about the production company and how neat it is,
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They scrapped together the money about eight years ago to make this thing.
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which is how we should be doing our politics right now, by the way.
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And so the people are going to end up making money off of this.
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And then they're also starting a few different foundations to actually fight and combat this.
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But really what should happen is that these members of Congress should get together
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and actually allocate funding to help stop this.
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And there are people, you know, Eduardo is such a great thought leader.
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We're going to be with him all day Wednesday to be talking through solutions.
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We brought in some others who are going to be there as well.
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He did say that he went in and met with Kevin McCarthy and a few others.
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But every member of Congress should be asking the question.
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You should be calling your members of Congress and say, have you watched this movie?
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And McCarthy says he is going to show it in the official Capitol Theater.
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What I said on the stage yesterday is on the afternoon of the 20th of January 2025,
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all these files are going to come loose, right?
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And not just people who didn't do anything to stop this for our government.
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FBI, CIA, all of it, anybody in the government that had anything to do with it
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and looking the other way, that's all got to come clean.
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I mean, this is, and Bob, it shouldn't wait till Trump returns to office.
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McCarthy and these guys should be demanding this now.
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If these senators were so concerned about this, why did they approve the omnibus?
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Why did they approve everything that just financed this?
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This movie is, I, my parents live up in a small town in northern Michigan.
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It has two screens and they've been showing Sound of Freedom for like weeks.
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And it is now we expanded a thousand movie theaters.
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I mean, the people are awake and they are dying to go see this.
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And our politicians, they're barely even talking about it.
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And so there needs to be more solutions and ways to tell these stories about the failure
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of our government, the failure of not only the uniparty, but the left.
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And then also there's a global tie to all of this.
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I mean, the president of Mexico is complicit in all of this too.
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And I, you know, I'm hearing all over the people calling for him to run.
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And he would actually, it's funny if he did, he would run as an independent because he,
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There's the, the party committees in Mexico are similar to ours where a lot of people just
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don't identify with these party committees anymore.
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They don't want to be labeled within either of these parties.
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People want to just have someone who's authentic and is willing to speak the truth and the beliefs
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And so Eduardo will be, um, up against that, but actually I think he could be very successful
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And what a great president of Mexico to have for the United States to work together, not
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just to stop this epidemic, but so many things that we, this invasion of the southern border,
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soundoffreedom.com slash war room, go get your ticket.
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I told these guys when I said, I said, uh, 200 to $250 million here at the domestic box
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The film is it's not, you know, you're not going to do a favor when you go.
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The footage is the footage from at con Diane Tara's battle crier freedom takes us out short
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Hopefully Mike Lindell's overdoing a beta site test for the election summit.
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He's going to join, uh, Caroline Ren and I in the war room short commercial break back
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And we'll fill the vacant race with a million free men more shouting the battle cry of freedom.
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While we rally around the flag boys rally once again.
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Right now, many Americans are feeling powerless.
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What the elites don't want you to know is that there are 200,000 open committee man seats in the Republican Party.
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These party members are the ones who determine the future of the GOP.
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Let's take our country back, one precinct at a time.
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Charlie Kirk, and by the way, Charlie follows us at noon.
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The 2,000 precinct strategy, precinct committeemen there.
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First off, Carrie Lake wins the EDACON, wins the vice president poll by 30% this time, 20% CPAC.
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Well, I didn't even know there was a straw poll.
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And Carrie was unable to attend the event because she was out campaigning for Trump in Iowa and in Arkansas.
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And then all of a sudden we start getting all these calls of Carrie won the straw poll for VP.
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And she is just connecting with people in a way that is so incredible.
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We're getting flooded by request to have her go and speak at all these county parties, local parties, activist groups.
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And so it's always an honor to be recognized like that.
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And if you don't follow the Carrie Lake War Room, I recommend you should.
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And they put out actually, you know, wow, this is an honor to have been chosen.
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But unfortunately, Carrie is unable to serve as governor, senator, and vice president at the same time.
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If you want to know about Carrie Lake, get the book out from Sergio.
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I'm honored to be the first guy, I think, to read the entire book when I got it and be able to comment on it.
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Real quickly, a homework assignment for you because you're a killer.
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Nobody really knows who's in back of it, how it came about.
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So will Tash you for coming back at some point in time and breaking that down?
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Okay, because there's something not right about this thing.
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I haven't really figured it out yet, but you always follow the money.
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The general thing is not to give a voice to the Democratic populist left.
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When you hear all the happy talk about it and all the nervousness over the...
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Not that it may crap sideways on Democrats, but the central thesis is to stop Trump, correct?
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I mean, there's nothing more uniparty than no labels.
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Literally, that is the whole purpose of that group of why it started.
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You saw the activity we had, and I want to thank everybody.
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You see all the interaction we get into with the team there.
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We don't want to make sure that you're not chop-blocked.
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The way you get chop-blocked right now is to have your mortgage taken by a cyber criminal
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and take a second mortgage out of a couple of hundred thousand dollars.
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You've got to pay the principal, and you've got to pay these high interest rates.
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Get all the information of how either a state actor, the CCP, or Russia, or some other,
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you know, the moolahs, or just criminal gangs, which they're essentially criminal gangs, and
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So make sure you just go check and take that off your plate.
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Make sure you get certain things off your plate.
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We just had Libby Evans left us to go up to Tim Pool.
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Scott Pressler and Matt Brainerd are taking the, we've got a ballot harvest like the Democrats.
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You're going to lay out part of it, but it's really going to get laid out at the summit in
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mid-August, I think the 17th and 18th in Springfield, Missouri.
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We want the whole nation and the world to watch.
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Well, it's amazing, but it's August 16th and 17th, everybody.
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I apologize for the background, but yeah, we're working very hard on refining the plant.
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I'm so excited with what we have ready for the whole world to see.
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So obviously it's not melting down the machines or whatever, you know, we're, you know, we're
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going to talk about paper ballots, hand counting, which we all want.
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Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, even, I think even the rhinos will embrace it, Steve.
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But I'm very excited because I felt there's even more things, more ideas that have came
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So it's the best plan in history, I believe, to secure our elections around the world, too,
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Talk to us about, all the articles have been about, and by the way, Mike Lindell was on
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fire in your speech, the kickoff Sunday, was absolutely on fire at Acon.
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But all I'm hearing in the media is my pill is out of business.
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Well, the media went into full attack when they found out about the event that we're
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going to reveal this plan to secure our election.
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So they hadn't attacked me in 70 days, and they couldn't resist on this.
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We had an option to get rid of our retail equipment because we lost the box stores two
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and a half years ago, and they just jumped on that.
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Boy, if you talk about the elections, you're out of business.
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It's our 20-year anniversary of me inventing my pillow in the summer of 2004.
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And all my employees that we've had since, there's some pictures right there,
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We had to invent all them boxes you see there in the fillers.
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There's our first infomercial right there, and that was in 2011.
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We have to build a commercial that actually comes out on Wednesday nationwide.
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All the employees want to get involved in over their manufacturing because they're so excited
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To have their jobs back instead of doing other things that put them in doing,
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And we're offering as a special, this is the, it's a limited edition, 20-year anniversary
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Plus you're helping out all these great employees of mine that made the USA.
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And we're very, we're very happy with everything that's going on.
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We're going to do the pregame for Mike's hit on Tim Pool on Friday.
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At Caroline Wren on Twitter, Getter, and True Social.
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Caroline will be with us on Wednesday as we do the rollout for Sound of Freedom up at Bedminster.
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Two hours of Charlie Kirk Nationalist Populism update on the AtCon23, Jack Basovic.
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Elizabeth Ravnett and Mondo on the WARROOM account on Telegram.
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