Bannon's War Room - Episode 2920： The Canceling Of He Who Shall Not Be Named

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:09.640 medieval on this people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16.220 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:20.380 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:23.740 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:31.560 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:38.660 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:47.140 and all of the evidence that we have gotten to date including today is an indication that joe

00:00:58.680 biden did nothing nothing not even approximating improper much less wrong or illegal he there is

00:01:04.720 no evidence linking joe biden to anything related to hunter biden and in fact the evidence that we

00:01:10.520 got today is confirmation anderson that the only official action joe biden took in connection with

00:01:17.920 any of that was connected to any of hunter biden's businesses was to urge the prosecutor general to

00:01:24.740 be fired from ukraine and devon archer the witness today said that burisma on whose board he sat with

00:01:31.380 hunter biden did not want that prosecutor general fired because he was quote under their control

00:01:38.960 unquote so the only official action here that is at issue actually went counter to what hunter biden's

00:01:45.800 business interests might be and did this investigation anderson needs to end and it needs to end now

00:01:51.280 because what we're doing is badgering a private citizen and there's no legitimate legislative purpose

00:01:57.080 at all but it's great to have you here so good to be here uh help us understand who devon archer is

00:02:02.000 and what he did and did not say yesterday in that meeting devon archer was hunter biden's business

00:02:07.000 partner from 2013 to 2016 and he was most notably on the board of burisma with hunter biden and what he

00:02:17.080 testified to yesterday uh completely absolves joe biden of any involvement in hunter biden's business

00:02:24.780 world and notwithstanding whatever alleged smoke uh chairman comer says there is the witness testimony

00:02:33.060 was very clear that joe biden was not involved in any of their business dealings joe biden got no

00:02:39.140 benefit joe biden did not change any of his actions for the benefit of his son in any way shape or form

00:02:47.760 that hunter may have quote uh promoted the illusion of influence on his father but the witness was very

00:02:56.600 clear that it was an illusion there was no actual influence and what the evidence has shown in this

00:03:02.700 entire investigation and we keep getting witness after witness who's supposed to be their star witness

00:03:07.860 showing joe biden's connection is the only evidence is that uh hunt that joe biden's official actions

00:03:15.860 let me take it just put put a pin in that and and hold it don't don't rewind that and i'm gonna come

00:03:22.220 back to that in a moment it's tuesday uh one august so we're here right um that is uh dan goldman and he

00:03:33.360 is uh well first i think he's the heir to the levi strauss fortune so he's a you know multi multi

00:03:39.420 millionaire billionaire however you want to say it uh he was the he was the counsel on the he badgered

00:03:46.080 trump and everyone on the on the ridiculous um first impeachment um about ukraine uh the perfect

00:03:54.340 phone call this is a super bad guy and probably the most partisan guy there he ran to replace

00:04:00.040 letitia james in the in the campaign went like two weeks when he had no support uh very uh this guy

00:04:07.320 will look you right in the eye and lie uh to a straight face but they are absolutely totally panicked

00:04:11.740 on this devon archer thing because he jumped out there right away uh afterwards and said we've got

00:04:16.880 to shut this thing down you can't be doing this on taxpayer expense i want to bring in natalie winters

00:04:21.940 natalie you followed all this closely particularly the um the uh the way that the biden crime family

00:04:29.600 has been bought and paid for by the chinese communist party and of course others right give me your

00:04:35.060 assessment of of uh yesterday uh what you can glean from and particularly the panic mode that because

00:04:41.260 they're all in go to the mics you got to shut this down uh this is there's nothing to see here

00:04:47.100 and uh this has to end natalie winters i mean dan goldman says it right there shut down the

00:04:53.260 investigations now and obviously the actions by a lot of the biden family members and their allies in

00:04:58.520 terms of and the doj and trying to shut down these whistleblowers uh sort of i think represent that

00:05:04.040 strategy um but i mean look you don't need to take my word for it take devon archer's word for it he

00:05:09.540 said the biden's were in the actual business of influence peddling and really rattled off what i

00:05:14.560 think is pretty damning evidence i think even that cuts through to the most partisan of partisans maybe

00:05:20.480 with the exception of dan goldman um but saying that joe biden was intimately involved in at least

00:05:26.100 20 phone calls with hunter biden's business partners conveniently the same members of the chinese

00:05:31.740 communist party the same russian oligarchs the same ukrainian energy firms that have received

00:05:37.080 very preferential treatment not just from the obama administration but have continued

00:05:41.480 to enjoy that same preferential treatment um from the biden regime and i think with the key point here

00:05:47.520 i think people should sort of look at this through the frame um of how the establishment media and

00:05:52.500 people like anthony fauci really handled the story about funding gain-of-function research at the

00:05:57.320 wuhan institute of virology remember at first they denied any contact right there was no relationship

00:06:03.660 there was no u.s taxpayer funds that ever went to the lab but then once we started unearthing evidence

00:06:08.980 that indicated very clearly otherwise then the goalposts shifted that you know linguistics

00:06:13.920 gymnastics started and they said well it was through a cutout it was through ecohealth alliance and that's

00:06:18.800 frankly what you're seeing going on here because people may recall joe biden is on record repeatedly

00:06:23.580 saying i never discussed my son's business dealings i never played a part and now the refrain that

00:06:30.060 you're hearing uh epitomized by people like dan goldman but basically all of his allies in congress

00:06:35.860 is that well no hunter or joe biden was on the phone with hunter but they were just talking about

00:06:40.760 the weather uh which is just an absolutely preposterous claim frankly it shows you america

00:06:45.980 how dumb they think you are um but again it's just important to i think contextualize the hearing

00:06:51.640 yesterday but more importantly the spin that they're pushing and that we've seen from the last two days

00:06:56.480 coming out uh from the white house because it's directly at odds with what they've said before

00:07:01.320 right joe biden there should have been a no pun intended but chinese wall between him and hunter

00:07:06.060 biden on any of these business dealings um but now we're seeing not even just from devon archer's

00:07:11.220 testimony but from the interviews by the likes of dan goldman that there was communication but it was

00:07:16.540 allegedly just about the weather

00:07:17.960 um do we have in fact i'm gonna ask my crack production staff here the seb gorka uh tweet if that's

00:07:25.860 booted up i'd like to play that for the audience it's much shorter it gets to goldman's piece just

00:07:29.840 give me a thumbs up when we got that so that we can show that natalie um we're gonna have chad

00:07:35.480 wick more on here in a moment because today's the launch day hang on a second let me let me play this

00:07:40.820 and then i can i'll frame it let me let's go ahead and play this a short clip from seb gorka's

00:07:44.780 twitter account so to confirm you're saying that the speaker phone conversations they don't seem

00:07:50.040 concerning to you because there is no specifics about business and it just seemed like it was clear that it

00:07:55.060 was clear that it was as part of the daily conversations that hunter biden had with his

00:08:01.120 father um and it was and and sounds like most of the time uh now president biden didn't even know

00:08:10.280 who the people he was at dinner he was just asked to say hello uh and he would you know talk about the

00:08:16.640 the way he described it several times they asked over and over and over he described what the weather

00:08:21.120 was how uh how what's going on on your end he the the witness was very very consistent that none of

00:08:31.220 those conversations ever had to do with any business dealings or transactions they were purely what he

00:08:38.000 called casual conversation now this is when he this is when the hearing ended they jumped right out

00:08:46.380 he hadn't collected his thoughts for his narrative he he worked that up for anderson cooper last night

00:08:53.320 and then overnight got the talking points down and of course winning morning jones this morning for

00:08:57.040 you know an entire segment and walked through it natalie we've heard that you know there was no ever

00:09:02.700 discussion didn't know anything about it now he's just dropping by talking about the weather how dumb do

00:09:06.840 they think people are so dumb and apparently that we have very short-term memories because if you read the

00:09:13.460 way that cnn the new york times or watch how they're covering it the new term that they really

00:09:18.360 like is the quote illusion of access right they weren't selling access they were selling the illusion

00:09:24.800 of access but that's at odds with everything that the biden white house and really even the obama white

00:09:30.700 house has been claiming for years and i think it is interesting you know keep in mind last time the

00:09:36.260 hunter biden hard drive story broke that was when twitter was at least more explicitly under control

00:09:42.240 uh of the biden regime um and its chinese communist party censors and of course the big tech elites in

00:09:49.160 this country maybe not so much big tech now just more chinese communist party but it really is

00:09:54.560 interesting to see how this story has been allowed to take off more um and frankly i think i think why

00:10:00.280 democrats realize that this testimony is so damning is because devon archer is someone who has worked with

00:10:06.960 the biden family for years we're talking about you know a decade of business deals spanning the entire

00:10:12.760 world this is someone whose voice cuts through to independence the same goes for the whistleblower

00:10:19.300 types the irs agents because they're not partisan actors as much as i you know love you love myself love

00:10:24.900 rudy giuliani when we break stories it comes from a certain angle but when you have people like devon

00:10:30.240 archer when you have the irs whistleblowers even the fbi whistleblowers people at the doj who

00:10:35.440 aren't partisan actors clearly if anything their allegiances should be with the biden family nine

00:10:40.480 times out of ten they're registered democrats i think that's why you see the democrats in such

00:10:44.740 full-blown panic mode because they know this messaging is what really cuts through and especially

00:10:51.260 now with you know social media platforms being a little more open it really can i think reach more

00:10:56.300 people and it's a heck of a lot harder to dispute devon archer who was you know in the proverbial room

00:11:01.580 where it happened um when he's saying joe biden was on the phone american people are not dumb to

00:11:06.840 know that they were just talking about the weather and if they were i'm sure it was part of some you

00:11:11.000 know green energy deal uh involving the chinese communist party buying our rare uh metals so it's

00:11:17.260 it's an insult to the american people but i think that's what we've come to expect

00:11:20.500 people have to understand when you talk about the ccp and barista these are strategic

00:11:26.380 partners uh the the uh the energy company was not just an energy company it was a like a capital

00:11:32.920 markets desk you would have in a major investment bank or a big commercial bank like jp morgan

00:11:38.900 um that allocated help allocate capital and resources on the one belt one road initiative which was the

00:11:46.700 ccp's major material aspect of trying to consolidate the eurasian landmass and their geopolitical move to

00:11:54.240 to break american pax americana this is to the heart of the geopolitical crisis of the 21st century

00:12:01.500 the biden family so let's never lose let's always keep the camera a little bit back

00:12:06.080 in full frame and remember the biden family consciously sold out their country consciously

00:12:13.200 sold out their country to the greatest existential threat maybe besides the deep state that the american

00:12:21.140 people have ever faced this would be equivalent of of being partners with the uh with hitler's crowd

00:12:27.220 in the early 1930s right this is what they this is what they did as they said came back just talk

00:12:33.140 about the weather just to talk about the weather or you know maybe get a business update i want

00:12:38.320 nomenclature and linguistics this is one of the reasons that we do the war room every day

00:12:43.280 i want you to go back in this key phrase everybody get your number two pencil out and write it down

00:12:49.980 because natalie once again has nailed it what they're pushing now is this concept of the illusion

00:12:56.780 of access once again what is that natalie winters and why should we continue to focus on this as they

00:13:02.900 try to get the biden crime family off the hook sure i'll read you the kind of opening sentence from

00:13:08.700 the cnn article recapping it they say devon archer told the house oversight committee on monday that

00:13:13.120 his former business partner hunter biden was selling the illusion of access to his father according

00:13:18.080 to a source familiar with the closed door interview and if you look you know things always start in

00:13:22.980 the new york times and work their way through that really is the new phrase of the day like i said it

00:13:28.600 goes against what the official line has been coming out of both the obama white house the biden white

00:13:33.720 house the campaign um but it's also i mean just at odds with what devon archer said because he also

00:13:40.240 says and i quote the biden's were in the actual business of influence peddling and he goes through

00:13:46.040 chapter and verse and a very damning way to the biden family all of the individuals who have continued

00:13:51.300 to receive preferential treatment from the biden regime people who joe biden was on the phone with

00:13:56.800 or in some cases even in person um at dinner with but like i said this goes back to sort of the wuhan

00:14:02.520 institute of virology gain of function trip where they just keep moving the goal posts hoping that if they

00:14:08.680 do it subtly and gradually and do it with you know very unique syntax and twisting diction that people

00:14:14.360 won't notice it um but we have and it's not the illusion of access and people you know are all upset

00:14:19.880 about hunter biden not being a foreign agent i think that's too euphemistic a term yeah he should

00:14:25.320 register with farah but he's a traitor and uh i think that the the ramifications for that are a heck of

00:14:30.780 a lot worse than not registering with farah natalie hang on for one second we're gonna come back

00:14:37.460 chadwick moore is going to join us uh about the new uh book uh

00:14:41.700 on tucker and tucker was maniacally focused on what he called narrative control

00:14:49.840 short break chadwick moore the author natalie winters our executive editor next in the war room

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00:16:17.420 good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight secrecy is a powerful tool of the

00:16:26.820 garish man does hunter but you really can be whatever you want to be when honest people say

00:16:34.640 what's true they become powerful true things prevail

00:16:40.300 jack mick moore is a journalist in new york city a very smart man a frequent guest on our show

00:17:01.000 thanks so much for coming on

00:17:02.740 okay we're very honored to kick off uh today's one august it's tuesday the traditional day books

00:17:23.420 and publisher and go to chadwick moore in a moment really honored to have him on and to be able to

00:17:27.280 kick off this uh the month of august um with a uh a powerful book about a a very powerful uh

00:17:34.920 individual tucker carlson but natalie i want to go back to you for one second

00:17:38.800 um given your uh family the way you were raised your formation your education your professionally what

00:17:50.600 you've done at national pulse and here and i don't know 20 before you're 22 years old

00:17:55.660 you're not one that throws around terms loosely you always make sure and one of the reasons i think

00:18:02.660 you've done so well as an investigative reporter is that you always make sure that you've got the receipts

00:18:08.660 so when natalie winters sits there and says hey you know they're running around and using the term

00:18:15.520 influence peddling which is a powerful term in politics they're using the term that he is

00:18:21.080 unregisterated foreign agent and they went after flynn and other people because that manafort and

00:18:26.800 flynn i guess others before that uh but that misses the point uh this is about nomenclature and linguistics

00:18:32.820 and he's a traitor this is about narrative control and the i've got huge problems and i'm not saying

00:18:42.340 that the republicans are not well-meaning and good people with good hearts and their hearts are in the

00:18:46.380 right place i'm trying to do it but we're not at that phase in the fighting for this republic

00:18:51.720 we're in a war and you have to be maniacally focused relentless and tough as boot leather and our

00:19:01.760 opponents are that you may hate their politics you may hate what they're trying to do with the country

00:19:06.200 but the dan goldman's in war the mark elias's war these guys are killers

00:19:10.340 and uh and they play smash mouth look at just dan goldman what they've done in the mainstream media

00:19:17.560 in the last uh less than 24 hours and of course it's it's ludicrous but it's uh it's the way they

00:19:25.480 roll because they understand narrative control when we get to chadwick moore an individual who knew

00:19:31.680 that better than anybody was tucker carlson and the reason tucker carlson is not at fox news not the

00:19:38.060 murdoch's is exactly about this concept of narrative control what would you recommend natalie

00:19:43.960 uh about this issue that the republicans in these committees don't have a natalie winters that's at

00:19:52.140 the forefront and up on and not just on fox on msnbc or cnn the republicans should have they should

00:19:58.780 have had last night hard-nosed representatives who could go out there and defend this and and make the

00:20:04.320 case on the cnn shows and the msnbc shows and you just don't see that do they have any concept natalie

00:20:11.940 winters of narrative control ma'am well i have to say i feel like i'm just getting old enough where

00:20:18.240 when you say my age on air i start to get embarrassed but but that aside um when it comes

00:20:25.040 to house republicans doing what they do best which is you know really no bark and frankly no bite

00:20:30.700 um you know dan goldman has more courage albeit deranged courage and tenacity and i think one of

00:20:37.360 his fingers than the entire house oversight committee does i mean they impeached donald trump

00:20:43.780 for what joe biden basically did and remember steve the only reason in my humble opinion that this

00:20:49.280 hearing actually happened because the doj was trying to stop it right they were trying to throw devon

00:20:54.360 archer in jail was because matt gates was brave enough to really kick up a firestorm on twitter

00:20:59.560 and get some of a house judiciary to back him up to say we will make sure this hearing proceeds but

00:21:06.400 the real tell that no one on oversight is actually doing anything worthwhile is that there's really

00:21:11.340 only one at least in my opinion republican member of congress that they go after the same way that they

00:21:17.500 do you the same way that they do donald trump and that's matt gates i mean the ethics committee

00:21:21.000 violations the investigations the doj i mean james comer if he's really leading a crusade to get the

00:21:27.580 evidence to impeach joe biden he should be getting a complete attack from the mainstream media it's sort

00:21:33.220 of silence uh ethics committee violations they should be trying to remove them from the committee

00:21:37.760 there's no efforts to actually go after these people because they're not doing anything worthwhile so

00:21:43.180 i would say to them stop staffing your committees not just with democrats and holdovers from the

00:21:48.600 january 6 committee days but stop staffing your committees with republican establishment sellouts

00:21:54.460 who all they care about is being able to get a job at whatever lobbying firm probably that's somehow

00:22:00.220 related to hunter biden and the law firm that he worked for in the same office complex someone who's

00:22:05.100 not part of that swamp ecosystem but unfortunately i mean i live in dc now i'm forced to see the kind of

00:22:11.400 people who work on the hill they have no backbone because they want to play within the system they need to

00:22:16.760 hire people on these committees who want to burn it down and i say that in all seriousness people who

00:22:22.760 aren't scared of the biden family industrial complex people who aren't scared of the ramifications of a

00:22:29.360 weaponized doj and at the point in which we still have like i said democratic holdovers from the january

00:22:35.860 6 committee uh we're never going to actually go after the bidens and more broadly go after the

00:22:42.960 administrative state that it's that existence that allows the biden family to get away with their

00:22:49.200 corruption and i hope we get our act together because steve if we don't i could only imagine

00:22:54.060 how the biden influence peddling scam will continue after he leaves the office of the president and they

00:23:00.740 know that there really are no ramifications because you could quite literally have a whistleblower come in

00:23:05.940 and say the president of the united states was on phone calls with america's greatest enemies

00:23:10.980 proxies of the people's liberation army proxies of china's political warfare department joe biden was

00:23:17.060 on the phone with them getting his son millions of dollars and nothing happens

00:23:22.180 um i i want to go to chadwick more into this is the reason that in this book tucker launches today

00:23:32.200 we need everybody to get a copy of it and read it i don't want to give up all the the amazing details

00:23:38.220 isn't it but isn't the fact that the reason that tucker carlson's not on fox news tonight at eight o'clock

00:23:44.440 is exactly what natalie just said that tucker wanted to go and burn it down the the establishment

00:23:50.460 the system the administrative state get to the crime and the influence peddling

00:23:54.080 and the murdochs don't want that and you can see that on page after page

00:23:57.880 of this book chadwick more

00:23:59.860 yeah i would i would agree with that i think it's inarguable at this point with everything we know

00:24:06.840 obviously fox is still keeping it mysterious why they took him off the air the best

00:24:10.500 excuse they've come up with was a private text message that he sent to someone

00:24:14.140 that they called racist which of course it wasn't racist at all uh but it seems clear at this point

00:24:19.220 that his taking off the air was 100 political and had to do with the narrative this is evidence not

00:24:24.440 only in the fact that um they fired his entire remaining team nine people in one fell swoop which

00:24:30.340 is really odd for a cable news channel they're worried about tucker loyalists in the network of

00:24:35.060 which i can report there are many uh i've had a lot of sources inside fox who are leaking me things

00:24:39.780 over the past few weeks and i can honestly say none of them were producers on his show they were

00:24:44.420 producers on other shows so uh they got rid of all those people very unusual and there's kind of a

00:24:50.360 witch hunt within fox of it seems at least tracking down people who are loyal to him

00:24:54.140 it's completely about narrative control whether it's the murdochs whether it's people on the board

00:24:57.940 whether it's they see it purely as a business decision obviously there are lots of big nasty

00:25:02.660 companies of uh controlling interest in news corp could have been any one of these people or all

00:25:07.680 them together that wanted him silenced and that's what they've attempted to do and continue to do

00:25:12.740 as they send cease and desist letters and whatnot for him uh posting his views on twitter

00:25:17.480 see that's why this book and for the posse to get it it is not just a a history of tucker carlson or

00:25:26.540 a traditional biography it really puts you in the moment and that's because you spent so much time

00:25:32.120 with tucker over the last year and in fact you delayed even the publication i think of the book

00:25:36.820 to make sure you got all the aspects of it uh when he was let go correct and so that this book i think

00:25:43.900 does more than anything to put one in the moment about exactly where we are and to understand the

00:25:48.800 fact that fox is not here for a search for truth and fox is certainly not here right now to support

00:25:55.800 really the underpinnings of of of uh of what maga stands for and what this populist revolt is in fact

00:26:02.760 the exact opposite when you read this book it's quite clear the fights and the battles and people

00:26:08.020 have no earthy idea what tucker carlson and his team went through that's why i think chadwick is is

00:26:13.080 is the amazing thing uh about what you've been able to accomplish you really put us inside

00:26:18.140 and show on the biggest most part i mean you think about chadwick and tv it's it's it's ludicrous and

00:26:24.600 cable tv to take off the biggest program you've had and quite frankly the biggest program you've ever

00:26:30.040 uh you've ever had correct yes and you even have i mean even very recently paul ryan who's on the

00:26:36.920 board of fox saying he would vote for literally anyone but trump does that mean gavin newsom does that

00:26:41.580 mean kamala harris uh so it's very ideologically clear what what's interesting though and what i

00:26:46.640 think is has sort of come to light after what's happened to tucker is that you know this sort of

00:26:51.640 feels like a historic moment and it sort of feels like the moment in which the first time the mainstream

00:26:56.260 media will play a very insignificant and minute role in a presidential primary for either party uh and

00:27:04.360 tucker carlson really seems to be the figurehead for that this his being let go from fox you know

00:27:10.760 seems to me at least mark the moment in which independent media will surpass mainstream media

00:27:16.280 uh at least on the right the left may be uh further behind they seem to love their institutions and

00:27:21.960 corporate media but it feels historic in that sense and that you know became clear a few weeks after he

00:27:27.500 was fired and and you know i did get to interview we did push back publication of the book

00:27:31.360 and got to interview him a couple more times uh since then to to follow up on the aftermath and

00:27:36.720 what happened but um you know fox doesn't really seem to understand what they had uh and or they

00:27:42.820 also don't seem to care because they are too ideologically driven chadwick hangar for one second

00:27:50.220 natalie and chadwick or more are gonna um hang with me for the next segment we also have mike shields

00:27:55.760 a quite brilliant piece on cnn about a tectonic plate shift in the voting base of the republican party

00:28:04.700 all next in the war room

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00:29:35.300 okay welcome back um chadwick um the speech that tucker gave at the kennedy center i think it was for

00:29:48.060 the i don't know 50th anniversary one of the big anniversaries milestones for the heritage um was um

00:29:54.940 from all reports just an incredible speech and talked about his journey as as a as a person but

00:30:01.320 also talked about his journey as a conservative uh and really got to vary the deep some of the deep

00:30:06.480 spiritual aspects of uh of tucker's life that's all incorporated in your book uh the fight and the

00:30:13.720 intensity of the fight i don't think people understand and i would recommend to everybody

00:30:17.580 in this audience and to get it to their friends also this the book tucker which comes out today it's

00:30:23.500 not a traditional biography because it really puts you in the middle of this great conflict we have

00:30:29.080 right now on essentially information warfare and you can see the murdochs um with all their

00:30:34.680 you know to them it's a it's a it's a it's a business but it's a business in a larger context

00:30:43.120 they would take off their number one show a number one show by a by a you know almost an order of

00:30:48.920 magnitude when you talk about new audience not the 73 year olds or 75 year olds that cut it on in the

00:30:54.200 morning and leave it on or totally passive that's an empty calories audience i'm talking about

00:30:58.800 was it the 18 to 49 uh year old a demographic where tucker always dominate and brought so many

00:31:05.220 new viewers into fox that would never go to fox uh you know ever but to watch his show because of

00:31:11.840 the populist anti-establishment anti-elite uh content of the show is a is a fun look we're very proud that

00:31:20.740 the war room we we we wear the crown for selling the most books of any show and we're quite proud

00:31:26.360 of that because our our audience is is hungry for knowledge hungry for information and are book

00:31:31.380 readers um but is are you booked uh for the next couple of days because the launch day is always the

00:31:38.080 big day you know when you want to be on charlie kirk and you want to be on alex jones you want to be

00:31:42.080 on jack posobik and you want to be on emerald robinson and all these shows are you booked

00:31:46.100 on fox shows over the next couple of days no i i'm not i was uh i was regular on on not only

00:31:53.940 tucker's show but many other shows on fox including greg gutfeld's show and uh within about two hours we

00:31:59.480 announced this book which was back in may i was pulled from all my upcoming appearances and uh and

00:32:05.280 then greg gutfeld blocked me on twitter which was a little strange um and so i've become much like

00:32:11.300 tucker himself uh person non grata at fox uh you are forbidden from even saying the word tucker on

00:32:16.760 air at fox that's been the case since april 24th of this year when his show was taken off the air

00:32:22.100 he is he who should not be named and um the fox hosts god bless them have dutifully fallen in line

00:32:28.400 and uh they are complying as they um which is probably why they have jobs at fox although probably

00:32:33.580 not for much longer um tucker knew that um cable news was always a temporary job he'd of course been

00:32:40.660 at cnn msnbc and he had a lot of mentors in his life to let him know that that these jobs don't

00:32:46.100 last you can be gone um uh just you know overnight uh and he never uh really let that go to his head

00:32:52.520 i think a lot of cable news hosts have a lot of egos there can be kind of jerks um but he's always

00:32:57.420 carried that around with him so he was well prepared for what happened to him uh with fox uh that does not

00:33:02.980 mean he wasn't still and continues to be surprised and confused by it when you read the book and like

00:33:10.660 i said once again we recommend everybody get the book tucker it's out today today's the start of

00:33:14.680 the clock to make it a new york times bestseller which we're quite focused on on on assisting um

00:33:20.740 you say that people come to you all the time that work there not just the producers of people used to

00:33:26.480 be there but people on the shows is there is there generally uh some corpus of people there

00:33:32.760 that believe in this kind of populist anti-establishment anti-elite uh message of tucker

00:33:39.220 and his content and quite frankly his narrative although the hosts and these other guys and by the way

00:33:44.200 some of the hosts are great people don't get me wrong they're under tremendous economic pressure

00:33:47.940 when the murdochs tell you it's going to be this way it's going to be this way right and if you if

00:33:52.620 you don't comply you're gone uh but you get a sense that there's a there are folks inside

00:33:57.560 particularly on the content creation side that that truly support tucker

00:34:01.340 yeah i think inside fox uh people who work there not just hosts but everyone behind the scenes talent

00:34:08.140 producers bookers runs the ideological gamut i mean you've definitely got a ton of liberals at fox

00:34:13.160 tons of liberals and you have more corporate republicans and then you have a lot of these people

00:34:17.980 who are more populist they're more in line with trump's thinking with tucker's thinking

00:34:21.700 and um i mean there's certainly everywhere tucker was beloved at fox not just by people on his show

00:34:26.860 but people who had never even met the guy or just had a chance encounter with him at fox news

00:34:31.500 headquarters in manhattan so everyone really really liked him and and he certainly there are certainly

00:34:36.080 people in there ideologically who agree with him and you know i get messages from people there who

00:34:40.720 don't want to lose their jobs but they are contacting me because they're so frustrated and upset about

00:34:45.760 how fox is behaving um and uh you know a lot of people probably certainly want out but of course

00:34:50.920 there's economic constraints and whatnot um we were honored to to assist and help with the book launch

00:34:58.620 uh down at turning point and i can tell you um chadwick from the people that we got the books in the

00:35:04.080 hand to and it was a pretty big important crowd there uh to a person they love this book and as i said

00:35:10.380 at the time when i introduced you you're you're a terrific writer and a great investigator to get to the

00:35:14.480 heart of it and not not just kind of you know meander around this book you know the key thing i tell

00:35:19.100 authors in books is that make sure when you write that they're going to turn the page and this book

00:35:25.960 you won't put down make your pitch here for why this audience uh should buy this book and why this

00:35:31.580 audience should push this book out to their friends well i think that he's become you know one of the

00:35:37.740 most important uh voices in american politics he's he's sort of uh on a level with he's a once in a

00:35:43.180 generation talent in broadcasting that you know compares only to in recent memory rush limbaugh in

00:35:49.100 a lot of ways and you know i really wanted to as you had mentioned uh and thank you for your kind

00:35:53.900 words for capturing this moment and putting people right there with him and getting to know who he is

00:35:58.580 off camera and as a human being i don't think that anyone's ever tried to do that that wasn't a

00:36:03.180 smear piece you know the 9 000 word new york times front page whatever uh so you know if you're

00:36:09.100 interested in who this guy is what he's what his world is like what motivates him and where he came

00:36:13.600 from you know i really hope that we captured all that in the book and uh and you have a better sense

00:36:18.440 of him and and just kind of what a person he is and you know a really decent man uh and uh really

00:36:23.800 grateful to him and his family for letting me into their their life and their world and for trusting

00:36:28.140 me it was an honor to to work on this chadwick you spent a couple years your life now on this

00:36:35.940 today begins the the journey of you in the book um how do people they go to amazon to get this we

00:36:41.160 want to get the numbers up to uh to make sure it's on the new york times bestseller it's in bookstores

00:36:45.740 also starting today am i correct on that that's correct uh books a million amazon uh um barnes and

00:36:52.780 noble or you can get direct from the publisher if you'd like it should be available um anywhere you get

00:36:57.820 your books fantastic chadwick what is your social media we we promise our audience will not block

00:37:06.320 you what's your social media where do they go where do people go to follow you i know you're

00:37:09.500 putting up a lot of social media the next couple days well thank you i appreciate that to your

00:37:14.300 audience in advance it's uh you can find me on twitter or x now at chadwick underscore more that's

00:37:19.520 where i'm most active chadwick thank you we look forward to having you back on uh later this week to

00:37:26.160 see how it's going and this is the big week for the book we want to push this to be a new york times

00:37:30.060 number one bestseller so that we can put that in the face of the murdochs right far be it for me

00:37:36.740 did i mention that they're far did i have i mentioned yet that they're actually far and i'm just kidding

00:37:40.960 uh chadwick thank you so much uh look forward to it look look forward to seeing your other hits

00:37:45.400 more the book's terrific the book's terrific we we were uh we were at uh turning point we hosted our

00:37:53.520 co-hosted a book launch party and uh we gave out copies and uh people were calling me the next day

00:37:59.800 they stayed up that night reading it or read it the next day it's just you you will you will love

00:38:03.440 it and uh you'll be uh if you make sure you get one for a friend they'll love it too so tucker the

00:38:08.900 book is out today mike shields uh is one of the smartest guys i know in politics uh former

00:38:15.440 contributor i've been a political operative and strategist in in the republican party and

00:38:20.980 conservative movement for many years been a former contributor cnn mike i want to take a minute

00:38:26.160 because what i love is when a guy puts out a piece that's i don't call them opinion pieces they're

00:38:30.300 really analytical pieces and particularly when they look at the world through a different set of

00:38:35.880 glasses and say hey i think people are missing this walk me through the cnn piece you you went after

00:38:42.220 this this this thing we always hear that midterm elections are better for republicans in general

00:38:46.860 because smaller turnouts benefit republicans and you did this in an analytical way to say

00:38:53.520 that's no longer the case and the reason is is this tectonic plate shift and really who who really

00:39:00.920 votes republican now can you walk us through that sure you know there is a conventional wisdom

00:39:07.000 amongst the media also political operatives consultants people in washington republicans uh that

00:39:15.020 believe that republicans do better in midterms when there's a lower turnout and democrats tend to do

00:39:20.620 better in presidential elections when the turnout is higher and everyone just sort of lived off of

00:39:25.320 that conventional wisdom for a while and we've now had enough election cycles in the last you know six

00:39:30.840 eight ten years to to see the data trends but that's actually not the case anymore and that

00:39:36.680 fundamentally the republican coalition has changed and we have ingested into our coalition

00:39:43.240 a different type of voter and those voters uh and you know this isn't this isn't great news in a

00:39:49.560 midterm but right now we're in a presidential election we need to pay attention to it uh we have

00:39:54.140 a group of voters that are supporting our candidates that oftentimes don't take part in midterms they are

00:40:00.660 more likely to show up in a presidential election and so this is a complete shift of that thinking

00:40:05.840 that has dominated a lot of political orthodoxy over the last you know 30 years

00:40:10.500 is that because is because of trump is it is it because of more it's a more populist message

00:40:19.040 that we're pushing is it that economics uh parts of the country what we say our coalition has changed

00:40:26.920 what was the coalition before and what is that change and what's brought what how did it come about

00:40:33.580 yeah the answer is yes to all of those and steve you're the the person who understands this

00:40:39.540 better than anybody because you've been talking about this for so long but

00:40:42.780 this is a worldwide trend right like the the rise of populism and the polarization of our electorate

00:40:50.300 along education and income lines and then beyond that geographic lines is a trend that started a while ago

00:40:56.580 we really saw it in the 2010 midterms uh during president obama's presidency when the republican

00:41:04.560 freshman class we had 63 members and over half of them had never held office before and that was just

00:41:10.300 a fundamental shift of how the republican party was starting to attract voters and it began those those

00:41:18.480 forces have been in place probably i don't know since the berlin wall came down uh and and the global

00:41:23.880 economy started to shift but it really became apparent in our politics then i think donald trump's

00:41:30.020 candidacy put rocket fuel into it and so uh you know i think the simple thing that media would say

00:41:36.660 is oh this all became about because of donald trump uh these trends were there before trump and then he

00:41:41.940 took advantage of them he was the right candidate at the right time for that type of electorate and now

00:41:46.960 we've seen enough elections where it's become permanent it's it's not just a a temporary

00:41:52.200 aspect of politics that will change uh and so and at the same time that our

00:41:59.020 coalition has changed in that direction of course the democrats have gone the other way

00:42:03.300 uh they are a more more elite more white progressive party that are alienating working class voters

00:42:09.940 including working class voters of color black and hispanic in particular voters that are moving over

00:42:15.460 into our coalition uh based upon all of these changes and so politics is kind of downstream from that

00:42:24.480 uh those economic and societal cultural changes uh and but but the establishment in politics meaning

00:42:33.580 the people that do campaigns and the media are a little bit slow to pick up on the fact of how it's

00:42:38.200 impacting our political strategy and so what we need to recognize is that uh the reason i wrote the

00:42:44.300 pieces talking to candidates and recruiting them to run for office who will say well i'm not sure i

00:42:50.040 want to run in a presidential cycle you know isn't it better for us in the midterm and i base everything

00:42:54.780 off of data this isn't just a guess this is literally what the data is telling us and i put a lot of it

00:42:59.440 into the piece uh the cnn.com piece where you can see the numbers don't lie uh we've seen this enough

00:43:07.580 now in enough elections it's the real trend hang on one second we're gonna take a short commercial

00:43:13.460 break mike shields is uh gonna join us after the break or continue with us we got natalie winters

00:43:18.760 gonna bring her back peter navarro we're gonna do a breakdown we're gonna deconstruct uh governor

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00:45:32.700 mike shields uh is with us and mike shields brings up all the underlying um

00:45:41.740 roots of this you know from the reagan revolution from uh pat buchanan's campaign from the gingrich

00:45:50.500 revolution from ross perot even and then leading to when the financial collapse in 2008 as i said the

00:45:57.200 theory of the case is you've never had a financial crisis that you somehow didn't have a populist

00:46:01.460 movement cover all of that the the tea party revolt of 2010 the 63 uh first timers i think the

00:46:09.640 largest uh i think at the time because the base we only had like 150 seats it was such an

00:46:14.680 extraordinary extraordinary 160 seats it was such an extraordinary time and many of those people

00:46:19.060 are prominent today in the senate and presidential races etc mike you take the data and you say hey

00:46:25.000 since 2010 since the tea party revolt it's pretty firm now we have the data and analytics and now you

00:46:30.060 can see that we're starting to attract particularly african-american males uh hispanic males the the

00:46:35.720 the electrics totally changed and we shouldn't be afraid of presidential cycles right that we can

00:46:42.400 actually turn out many more voters if people focus on it what is your call because you're not an

00:46:48.180 analyst you're actually a doer a man of action so you've done the analysis what is your um what is

00:46:54.280 your message to political operatives to donors to the official kind of apparatus and structure not

00:47:00.700 just of the national rnc but through the state parties what is what is the message is your

00:47:04.560 analysis should show us to do we need to lean in we have to seize the day if you don't like what's

00:47:11.660 going on if you want to change washington if you want to remove the the terrible things that we see

00:47:16.840 are going on in the country the presidential cycle is when we have to put all of our chips on the table

00:47:20.860 this is when the most of our voters in our coalition are going to show up and we've got to teach that to

00:47:26.300 the operatives that think the old way we've got to force it on the media who are always going to

00:47:31.360 have a narrative that's that's old and we've got to recruit candidates you've got to tell them this

00:47:36.080 is not only should you not be worried about running in a presidential cycle this is if you want to run

00:47:40.000 for office now is the time you have to do it you've got to get in the game now because this is when our

00:47:45.180 voters that pay attention more are going to show up and um in midterms uh we've got we've got to be

00:47:52.840 better in midterms it's another part of this is we've got to get a lot of the voters that are in

00:47:57.540 our coalition they don't they're they're not political they're not people that are embedded

00:48:02.260 in politics they're they're americans that are hard-working class people that are focused on

00:48:08.420 their lives and not always on elections presidential election comes around and they they go oh my gosh

00:48:12.540 yes i'm going to vote uh so there's there's two calls to action one is lean in now now is the time

00:48:18.840 seize the day you need to give now you need to get involved now you need to run for office now we've got

00:48:23.240 to build up as large of a republican victories we possibly can in 2024 and then in the next midterm

00:48:30.120 we've got to be focused on this and make sure that these voters don't stay home yeah yeah no no this is

00:48:35.700 what i tell people we could take that we increase the margin in the house we can take the senate we can

00:48:40.260 win the white house uh we could do exactly what we did in 16 we kind of had to strap that together

00:48:46.080 and put together but that's what president trump that's what the historical figure like lincoln and

00:48:50.360 breaking these people they take things to the next level we are absolutely positioned to go next

00:48:55.480 level on this if we just get maniacally focused on on on what we've got and and focus entirely on

00:49:03.160 how we deliver it i'll talk later and then the afternoon show about this is what disturbs me about

00:49:06.840 the opportunity cost yes it's a mindset shift it's a cultural mindset shift of the people that are

00:49:14.980 running campaigns to understand this is the time to be aggressive

00:49:18.300 mike how do people get you social media website all of that where do people go and particularly i

00:49:25.400 push out captain bannon grace i want to push this article out to everybody i want everybody to share

00:49:29.120 it uh carly bonet if everybody puts it up and shares everybody should read this

00:49:32.380 yeah my twitter is m shields double oh seven uh and uh my firm is convergence media which is

00:49:41.560 convergence media dot us

00:49:42.860 mike shields thank you for coming on appreciate it thanks for having me steve

00:49:49.560 seize the day carpe diem this is our time this movement's ascendant you see in all the polling

00:50:00.980 numbers that's one of the reasons they're going crazy this is what by the way president trump the

00:50:04.480 indictment watch another bunch of indictments this week why they can't beam at the polls

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Bannon's War Room - August 01, 2023

Episode 2920： The Canceling Of He Who Shall Not Be Named

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