Bannon's War Room - Episode 2926： The Fox News Coverups Of J6

00:00:00.880 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:05.760 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:10.980 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.240 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.180 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:18.600 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:21.280 It's going to happen.

00:00:22.540 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:25.940 Mega Media.

00:00:26.860 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.780 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.480 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:42.880 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:46.100 You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem.

00:01:00.100 Whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House.

00:01:07.840 Do they consider, as part of a potential plea offer, something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again?

00:01:16.840 I don't know.

00:01:17.260 I would imagine if anything like that happened, that it would have to come from the defense side of the negotiation, that the Trump team would say, oh, by the way, and with this, we will also drop out of the race for president.

00:01:33.780 Otherwise, it would put the Justice Department in this position that Donald Trump claims they're in.

00:01:39.980 He claims they're trying to stop him, simply trying to stop him from becoming president again.

00:01:45.320 And that's the only reason they're doing this.

00:01:47.940 So my guess, given those dynamics and the change, I think, in the way the Justice Department sees this in those 50 years since Spiro Egdu, it just seems unlikely that they would reach into the political zone of the solution.

00:02:07.780 Our politics does have to find a solution to this, but it might have to find that solution separate and apart from the criminal process.

00:02:15.180 Yeah, I mean, Chris Krebs sort of walked into a split rail between both Russia and then saying the election was otherwise secure.

00:02:26.660 But all of this and this meeting is particularly important in terms of the reckoning that the country needs to have with Trump's election denial charges.

00:02:36.840 Because the 30 percent of the country not believing in the credibility of our elections is not a sustainable number.

00:02:45.180 And Donald Trump bringing Donald Trump to account to actually prove the underlying case that he claimed was true would be a real service to the country.

00:02:56.060 Longer the terrorist who's going to fly an airplane into some building.

00:03:01.060 It is within our country, people, extremists, white supremacists and others who would resort to violence to alter an election or take other kinds of violent action.

00:03:13.860 And so this trial is going to be a real test of our democracy.

00:03:19.580 And in a world where democracy is increasingly under threat, it will be a real opportunity for the United States of America to show that no one is above the law.

00:03:31.700 He's entitled to his rights, just like any criminal defendant.

00:03:35.080 He's presumed innocent until proven guilty.

00:03:37.980 But the criminal justice system has to be allowed to work without interference.

00:03:41.920 We need to prevent interference.

00:03:44.220 And this kind of violent extremism.

00:03:46.540 We're very restrained and rational and not given a number statement, obviously.

00:03:50.700 But the facts that you are describing are shocking.

00:03:53.440 I was going to say, the reason why I've had a lot of people ask me, you know, why did you write this book?

00:03:58.660 I try to do what I can to get the truth out.

00:04:01.440 Yes.

00:04:01.720 You know, they didn't want me to testify in February 23rd at the Senate hearing.

00:04:07.060 They only wanted people to still currently in positions.

00:04:10.000 I actually had to go in and talk to a friend of mine on one of the oversight committees to say, I will come there in person.

00:04:14.720 I want to be there.

00:04:15.460 I want to testify.

00:04:16.740 So I'm glad you think I'm reserved.

00:04:18.040 I'm, you know, to be honest with you, I'm a little off because it didn't have to happen.

00:04:24.700 If people were reporting the intelligence correctly, if I was allowed to do my job as the chief, I got a significant experience.

00:04:32.140 If I was allowed to do my job as the chief, we wouldn't be here today.

00:04:35.820 This didn't have to happen.

00:04:37.220 Then see how you're out there.

00:04:39.220 You're lambasted in public.

00:04:40.960 And it's all, you know, everything appears to be a cover up.

00:04:43.700 Like I said, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but when you look at the information, the intelligence that it had, military had, it's all watered down.

00:04:51.220 I'm not getting intelligence.

00:04:52.400 I'm denied support National Guard in advance.

00:04:54.700 I'm denied National Guard while we're under attack for 71 minutes.

00:04:59.880 You're in a fight?

00:05:01.000 Yeah.

00:05:01.900 A fight for a couple of minutes.

00:05:03.320 Yeah, one minute.

00:05:03.960 It wears you out.

00:05:04.240 One minute.

00:05:04.640 I was going to say, 60 seconds, three minutes.

00:05:07.280 Let me tell you, it wears you out.

00:05:08.780 My officers were fighting for 80 minutes before the protesters ever broke the person with that.

00:05:14.260 Wait, can I say, so you described this as a failure to get the intelligence to the people who needed it, but it sounds like, worse than it, it sounds like they were hiding the intelligence.

00:05:24.720 And that's what I'm getting at, is could there possibly be people that actually did something happen and kind of wanted something to happen?

00:05:31.340 It doesn't, it's not a far stretch to begin to.

00:05:33.200 Well, I don't know what the other explanation is.

00:05:34.900 You know, it's, it's sad when you start putting everything together and thinking about the way this played out, it gets very concerning.

00:05:43.340 What was their end goal?

00:05:44.280 You look at, you look at what's happening.

00:05:46.560 Was that their end goal?

00:05:47.940 I don't know.

00:05:49.340 Well, I mean, there's no question that what happened on January 6th has, has really helped the Democratic Party.

00:05:56.560 It's bravely politicized the U.S. military and the intelligence agencies and the FBI.

00:06:05.320 And those are all, I think, bad for America and violations of the Constitution, but they're all good for the Democratic Party. 0.73

00:06:12.860 That's a fact.

00:06:13.560 Like, that's what happened.

00:06:14.520 Absolutely, and I write about that because as a cop of 30 years, I'm a rule of law type of guy.

00:06:21.520 Yeah.

00:06:21.880 You know, there's a reason that Lady Justice is depicted with a blindfold. 1.00

00:06:25.840 As soon as you tear that blindfold off, the fairness of our legal system goes out, goes out the window.

00:06:30.140 And that is exactly what has happened.

00:06:31.700 They have stripped that blindfold away from Lady Justice, and it's not perceived as being fair anymore. 0.98

00:06:38.900 Action.

00:06:39.300 Okay, welcome.

00:06:41.300 It is Thursday, 3 August, the year of our Lord, 2023.

00:06:46.600 There is a method to our madness in that cold open on this day of the arraignment of President Trump in Washington, D.C.

00:06:56.960 The logic, you see, I want to make sure that we continue to break this down and make sure that this is framed properly.

00:07:05.840 You see two of the quiet parts out loud there at the beginning with Rachel Maddow.

00:07:10.920 That was from a week or so ago.

00:07:13.300 I think it was on the target letters first up, or it might have even been the arraignment in Miami.

00:07:23.040 She talks about it right out there.

00:07:25.060 This is all about Trump running again, and we've got to get a political solution to this.

00:07:30.360 Then you have Ginsburg, who is part of the administrative and deep state on the Republican side.

00:07:37.640 That's a homeland security guy.

00:07:39.460 Tell Aaron Burnett, we need a reckoning.

00:07:42.120 We need – because 30 percent of the American people – and if Denver can pull up, the CNN has an incredible poll out today.

00:07:52.820 They've also got a big poll on economics and how Biden's doing, which is terrible, where they say 69 percent of Republicans do not believe Joe Biden is legitimately elected.

00:08:06.240 I happen to think that number is low.

00:08:08.020 And also, we put this up, I think, in the middle of the night, put it up a couple hours ago and get her, and it had the wrong headline on it.

00:08:15.480 So this is their story.

00:08:17.260 It's not – 69 percent not legitimately elected.

00:08:23.360 And then you have Blumenthal.

00:08:25.960 This guy is a United States senator.

00:08:28.120 You have – remember, he was the guy last week, or the Live Golf.

00:08:31.620 He had the – he was all up about the golf, you know, the PGA and the other golf associations partnering with the Saudis, which is bad enough. 1.00

00:08:41.940 But he just equated the deplorables – I mean, he equated the deplorables and MAGA to the 9-11 terrorists.

00:08:49.500 And he said, well, they're extremists, right, but they're domestic terrorists and white nationalists, but they're just the same as the guys that flew it into the building.

00:08:55.480 This is the mentality that you're thinking about, that we're opposing.

00:09:00.580 Today in this arraignment, I've asked Raheem to join us for the top and to get us going here, and a couple reasons.

00:09:11.360 Number one, Raheem has been able to get access to, quite frankly, explosive.

00:09:16.660 Because part of the things I'm going to go into is how the Murdochs and Fox News are absolutely bound and determined to destroy Donald Trump and to destroy this populist movement.

00:09:30.720 And they are working nonstop, 24-7, to make sure that happens.

00:09:38.220 Raheem, this is explosive.

00:09:40.400 I actually thought I saw a part of this on Fox, but now that I saw that – and for the audio, Raheem, I want you to go through how you got this and why the audio is not perfect.

00:09:51.700 But this was Tucker Carlson.

00:09:54.980 I'll let you explain it, but this was never shown at Fox.

00:09:58.300 In fact, I think Tucker or his people have told you that this was suppressed.

00:10:02.520 This was never played while Tucker was there.

00:10:04.080 Yeah, that's right, Steve.

00:10:08.100 Tucker Carlson himself gave an interview to comedian turned podcaster Russell Brand a couple of weeks ago where he sort of started to intimate what was said in this interview that he did at Fox with the former Capitol Hill police chief that you see there, Stephen Sund.

00:10:27.040 And it's funny because Stephen Sund was one of the first people that we honed in on, I think it was January the 10th, 2021, when all of that was still going on, when people were still trying to figure out what the heck happened that day.

00:10:40.300 And Sund kind of turned around at the time and said, well, hey, look, how was I supposed to know what was going on here?

00:10:45.860 Because nobody wanted to keep me in the loop the entire time.

00:10:49.260 And over the last couple of years, he has, I guess, put this book together that he was talking to Tucker about.

00:10:54.220 But it's the interview there that you saw there.

00:10:56.520 And that was, by the way, just the first part of the interview that we'll be releasing over the next couple of days where he starts talking about the cover up.

00:11:05.500 Now, you know, for those for those out there who kind of, you know, will listen to that and hear.

00:11:09.800 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hold on, Raheem, Raheem, hang on, slow down, slow down.

00:11:15.880 But I just want to make sure I understand this and therefore our audience or our audience may be ahead of me on this.

00:11:23.300 This was an interview Tucker Carlson did.

00:11:25.780 And it looks like it's a lot of the stuff he would do on that Fox Nation and then play parts of it up on a show.

00:11:31.200 He did this when he was at Fox and an employee of Fox, correct?

00:11:34.620 And he said on Russell Brand that this was never allowed to air before they terminated him, right?

00:11:39.020 I just want to make sure I got the fact right now.

00:11:41.580 How did how did how did, you know, Nash, far be it from me.

00:11:48.260 I'm a huge National Pulse fan, right?

00:11:49.960 We do exclusive content for you guys.

00:11:51.760 We're a huge supporter of yours.

00:11:53.500 You're original.

00:11:54.220 You're not only my editor over at Breitbart that led to assisted, gave a great assist with Brexit.

00:12:02.420 But you were the co-host originally of impeachment.

00:12:04.800 Now, you know, National Pulse is kind of the TMZ of the right.

00:12:10.320 And, you know, far be it from me to say you're Harvey Levin.

00:12:13.180 But how did you come in possession of this?

00:12:15.500 Is this Tucker Carlson's intellectual property?

00:12:17.840 Is this Rupert Murdoch's intellectual property?

00:12:20.220 And why are we having the benefit of showing this up on up on boardroom this morning, sir?

00:12:27.120 Well, the way the National Pulse came across this is is good old fashioned, you know, independent news journalism, right?

00:12:37.600 Working sources and getting the story.

00:12:41.340 This has nothing to do with Tucker.

00:12:43.080 I haven't spoken to Tucker or anyone on Tucker's team.

00:12:45.600 I haven't conversed with him about it.

00:12:48.520 And in fact, I'm very sorry if this somehow hurts him with his continued case against Fox.

00:12:54.140 But the truth needs to be told and the truth needs to be heard.

00:12:58.200 And if it takes us doing, you know, the heavy lift of actually getting to getting to where this is and getting it out there.

00:13:05.920 And in a fair use sense, right? 0.84

00:13:08.380 I'm not putting the whole interview up and saying, oh, hey, Fox, you know, screw you and your intellectual property.

00:13:12.680 I'm saying, you know, this is information that the public needs to hear and we will release parts of it that we believe are inherently newsworthy.

00:13:20.180 I think it's in Fox's interest.

00:13:22.200 Are you telling me?

00:13:23.560 Are you telling me?

00:13:24.540 Are you telling me what we've heard?

00:13:26.220 Are you telling me from what we've heard and what we know that there are factions inside of Fox News that don't agree with the Murdochs, what the Murdochs are trying to do to the country and what the Murdochs are trying to do to the populist movement?

00:13:40.960 And therefore, people inside of Fox leaked this or got this into the hands of the ever hardworking national pulse team.

00:13:51.160 Well, Steve, you might say that, you know, I couldn't possibly comment.

00:13:57.000 OK, fine.

00:13:57.880 I tell you what, I want to go to I want to go to commercial break because this is so explosive.

00:14:01.680 And I want to make sure that I want you to walk through particularly where people when we come back, what was said, because this frames this is why.

00:14:11.080 This is a day of jubilation for us.

00:14:13.880 We're going to get an opportunity, ladies and gentlemen, to adjudicate the 2020 election and all the fraud and all the stealing and all the illegitimacy of the Biden regime.

00:14:23.760 And also the second part of it, the Fed's direction.

00:14:30.380 We're going to make the deep state have to stand and deliver in a federal courthouse. 1.00

00:14:36.260 Right.

00:14:36.780 And defend what they did, which is indefensible.

00:14:41.220 Raheem Ghassan on the other side with an explosive interview between Tucker Carlson and the chief of the Capitol Hill police.

00:14:49.160 Never seen before.

00:14:50.660 Next in the war room.

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00:16:19.140 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:21.640 Okay, I may try to get, we're going to get Benny Johnson up here in a minute.

00:16:27.080 We're going to get Mike Davis up here.

00:16:28.960 Mike Davis got up on Twitter about the immediate movement we need to put to the appropriations bill to cut off all money to DOJ

00:16:37.580 and make Biden shut down the government on October 1st, if need be, before we give one penny, one penny to continue this persecution of President Trump and others in this fiasco coming to DOJ.

00:16:51.940 My point is we're on offense.

00:16:54.340 We're on offense, and I don't hear any defense.

00:16:56.720 I don't hear any whining, no tears, because the donors and the Murdochs are making a move on us right now.

00:17:07.580 Just understand that, making a move on us.

00:17:09.880 And so we have to be on offense of how we're going to, we welcome what Jack Smith did.

00:17:15.460 We welcome it.

00:17:16.600 We finally have a time to adjudicate it.

00:17:18.400 And the second part of this, which we keep talking about, is that, remember, when I was running around about this 2022 midterm,

00:17:25.700 what I kept saying is we need to have a real J6 committee.

00:17:29.040 And when I say J6 committee, because Jack Smith just did a photocopy of what they came up with, a real J6 committee.

00:17:34.580 But it's where the Democrats get a ranking member and where the Democrats get a council, and they get all the information.

00:17:40.440 And then on national TV, you can have a dramatic, you know, cross-examination.

00:17:44.880 And so the whole nation would at least buy into watching it.

00:17:48.300 It wouldn't cut out one side or the other.

00:17:49.680 That didn't happen.

00:17:51.660 And J6, we never did.

00:17:52.820 And on the day of, he never did anything about it in the lead up to it, in the Fed's direction part of it.

00:17:57.900 You know, bits and pieces, Revolver and National Pulse Raheem, but people have come out with it.

00:18:02.100 So this gives us a chance.

00:18:04.860 This is providential.

00:18:05.940 It gives us a chance in front of the whole world, in a federal courthouse with, quite frankly, an anti-Trump judge,

00:18:12.180 to be able to put before the nation, to put before the nation as evidence, not, not, not, as evidence,

00:18:21.140 exactly what went on on the run-up to J6 and about the stolen 2020 election.

00:18:26.820 And I will tell you right now, mark my words, they're going to offload Joe Biden.

00:18:32.840 They got the Gavin Newsom train already going.

00:18:35.120 We're going to get to the Murdochs.

00:18:35.900 They have a national debate between DeSantis.

00:18:37.920 The Murdochs have given, for the first time in history, to governors a national platform to pretend as president to have a debate in November,

00:18:47.760 a year from, a year from, a year from the actual election itself.

00:18:53.420 But we're going on offense.

00:18:55.820 This is not a defensive play.

00:18:57.140 This is offense, offense, offense, hammered down every second of every day.

00:19:01.520 Raheem, this is, quite frankly, explosive.

00:19:04.980 And I know the audio is bad because of the way you had to get it, et cetera.

00:19:09.680 And Tucker, I know, has talked about a little bit of Russell Brandt, but really hasn't had a chance to come out and totally go through it.

00:19:15.960 So just tell our audience who this guy is, why is he important, what he just said,

00:19:22.300 and why is it so important that the Murdochs decided not to play this?

00:19:28.920 Raheem Kassam.

00:19:31.380 Yeah, thanks, Steve.

00:19:32.280 Well, the audience will know that, you know, the National Pulse is a small team, but a very effective team, right?

00:19:37.680 And so when we do something, when we do some investigative work, we put our shoulder to the wheel in a massive way.

00:19:44.160 And this is no different.

00:19:46.280 You know, Stephen Sund is a 30-year-long law enforcement officer who has served as the Capitol Hill police chief since, I think, 2019.

00:19:57.360 He was in the run-up to January 6th completely, in his own words, cut out of the intelligence gathering and the planning of the policing on Capitol Hill that day.

00:20:10.360 He specifically, in this interview, points the finger at Nancy Pelosi.

00:20:14.840 He specifically points the finger at Milley.

00:20:17.440 He specifically says that him and his deputies were just not given the information that they needed to secure the Capitol building that day.

00:20:25.220 Now, listen, that's one part of it and one thing.

00:20:27.400 And you can think about incompetence and you can think about all sorts of other, you know, surprise factors that might have gone into that.

00:20:34.360 But then he says something very interesting, and you heard it there in the clip we played in the last segment.

00:20:38.700 And I encourage everybody to go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room.

00:20:44.620 Check out this story for yourself and watch as we release more and more and more over the course of the day.

00:20:51.400 If you scroll down there on the site, I see it's up on the screen right now for the video audience.

00:20:55.740 If people scroll down there on the site, you can see how many stories we put up a day and how many unique stories we put up a day.

00:21:02.420 And I really want the audience to recognize something here, that we are people funded.

00:21:06.740 OK, there's no adverts on the website.

00:21:09.740 Let me do this.

00:21:11.400 This is why we're such a big.

00:21:12.880 Yeah.

00:21:13.420 Yeah.

00:21:13.620 Go ahead.

00:21:14.100 Go ahead.

00:21:14.560 But to do something like this takes a lot of resources.

00:21:18.220 You know, you have to get the information.

00:21:19.840 You have to verify the information.

00:21:21.100 You have to transcribe the information.

00:21:22.360 You have to cut the clips.

00:21:23.180 This takes a big effort.

00:21:24.740 And that's why I need everybody to go to the nationalpulse.com forward slash war room to get behind us in releasing information like this.

00:21:32.360 Stephen Sund is on the record now saying that there was a cover up surrounding January the 6th and the planning around January the 6th.

00:21:39.460 That is the former Capitol Hill police chief in his own words.

00:21:42.800 And Fox tried to hide it.

00:21:44.120 I want everybody to go to National Pulse right now and see that entire clip.

00:21:49.100 There's more.

00:21:50.220 Raheem, just put a pin in it for one second because we're going to come back.

00:21:54.020 You've got more explosive footage about this.

00:21:56.860 And this is going to be a major part of the trial.

00:22:00.860 OK.

00:22:01.720 We've always wanted this.

00:22:03.700 We've always wanted this is providential.

00:22:05.220 But hang on for a second, Raheem, because I want to go back through that in Sund and back through the Fed's direction and all that.

00:22:09.900 But I want to bring in Benny Johnson.

00:22:11.740 I really appreciate Benny changing his schedule up.

00:22:14.280 Benny, you put up and if Denver could please help me here and put up.

00:22:17.420 Benny, you wrote a thing on on on Twitter called the ghost in the machine.

00:22:23.000 It is so powerful.

00:22:24.200 And I want you to either read it or just walk us through the entire thing that was happening on the screen and tell us what is the what is the meaning of this?

00:22:30.640 Because there cannot be a better preamble to set up the day than when Benny Johnson wrote and put up last night.

00:22:39.040 Can you walk us through it, sir?

00:22:40.580 Thank you, Steve.

00:22:41.440 What an honor.

00:22:42.720 So I've spent not an enormous amount of time in Washington, D.C., but 15 years of my professional life.

00:22:48.780 I've worked on Capitol Hill as a reporter.

00:22:50.480 I've asked questions at the White House press briefing.

00:22:52.220 I've seen the inside of many embassies and been invited to the parties and sort of understood how the apparatchiks work inside of Washington.

00:22:59.000 And I think that people are really missing a major theme as to what is truly happening in our country today.

00:23:06.260 And that theme is the ghost in the machine.

00:23:08.620 The ghost in the machine is what's actually happening in the indictment today.

00:23:14.180 And with the overlooking of Joe Biden's crimes.

00:23:17.340 Because it doesn't really matter what happens with Donald Trump.

00:23:20.980 Trump isn't actually the point here.

00:23:23.920 They're not after Trump necessarily.

00:23:26.480 And by they, I mean the super state.

00:23:28.520 By they, I mean the security state.

00:23:30.080 The ghost in the machine is the apparatchiks for our government who have spent the better part of 70 years building an apparatus in order to choose who is allowed to run for president.

00:23:42.680 In order to choose who is allowed to become president.

00:23:46.280 In order to choose who is allowed to remain president.

00:23:49.020 Please see RFK.

00:23:50.360 And please see Nixon.

00:23:52.860 Listen, these people are the ones who truly run Washington, D.C.

00:23:57.660 And they're the ones who have been in control for the last 70 years.

00:24:01.580 So the indictment today is far less about Trump.

00:24:04.720 And the overlooking of crimes, impeachable crimes by the Biden regime, really has nothing to do with the power of Joe Biden.

00:24:11.860 Don't kid yourself.

00:24:12.640 Joe Biden isn't powerful.

00:24:14.120 Joe Biden's barely alive. 0.93

00:24:15.160 And these people wouldn't shed a single tear if Joe Biden dropped dead tomorrow.

00:24:19.760 These people are utilizing the organs of government right now in a hard coup against you, the American people, because of one specific thing that happened on a date in November in 2016.

00:24:35.420 On a date in November in 2016, you defied them.

00:24:39.480 They told you to vote for Hillary Clinton.

00:24:41.280 They rigged the election against Donald Trump.

00:24:44.280 They rigged the election in favor of their preferred deep state candidate.

00:24:48.940 And in spite of every poll showing that Donald Trump had zero percent chance of winning, you said F you to these individuals, to the machine, the ghosts inside of the machine.

00:24:59.660 And that broke them because these individuals operate off of the assumption of power and the projection of power.

00:25:07.720 And what that told the entire world is that these people are not actually powerful, that these individuals are actually fraudulent.

00:25:13.760 And they couldn't even control what was happening in their own country.

00:25:16.180 And now Donald Trump's in charge.

00:25:17.460 And they were guaranteed a thousand years of leftist policymaking after Barack Obama.

00:25:25.080 And so these individuals had a psychotic break.

00:25:29.260 The ghost in the machine had a psychotic break.

00:25:31.780 And they decided that vengeance would be theirs.

00:25:36.000 And how was vengeance achieved?

00:25:37.840 By saying, if we can't run the country, then no one will. 0.90

00:25:41.260 We will burn this place to the ground. 0.99

00:25:44.620 Norms be damned. 1.00

00:25:45.780 Laws be damned. 1.00

00:25:46.860 Rules be damned. 1.00

00:25:47.960 Look at this old predator in the White House. 1.00

00:25:50.020 This guy is so corrupt and crooked. 1.00

00:25:52.340 This man could be indicted in every court in the land. 0.99

00:25:55.980 But he is protected by us because we say so.

00:25:58.980 The fact that he's even in office today is because we forced it.

00:26:03.180 We made it happen.

00:26:04.820 This is now an attack on Donald Trump.

00:26:06.960 Look at this man.

00:26:07.400 He's innocent.

00:26:08.440 This is an innocent man.

00:26:09.680 And he is going to face a thousand years in prison because we are powerful.

00:26:14.520 We are justice.

00:26:15.640 We are truth itself.

00:26:17.260 They're going after Donald Trump for free speech.

00:26:19.260 And so this is the machine flexing on the American people and saying, how dare you?

00:26:27.800 How dare you defy us?

00:26:29.240 How dare you think that you're in charge? 1.00

00:26:30.740 If you cross us, we will destroy you. 1.00

00:26:32.800 We will burn this place to ashes before giving up power. 1.00

00:26:38.020 And this is the nature of these individuals. 0.99

00:26:40.080 They're godless.

00:26:41.880 Benny, when you talk to the government, we talk about the administrative state a lot.

00:26:45.300 And we talk about this kind of rogue element, the deep state or the Praetorian Guard.

00:26:48.900 When you say they, we've got a minute.

00:26:52.880 We'd like to hold you through a break.

00:26:53.940 Raheem's going to stick with us.

00:26:54.920 When you say they, who do you mean?

00:26:58.880 The national security state is made up of a constellation of forever bureaucrats in Washington.

00:27:05.020 They have mansions in McLean.

00:27:07.020 They have lived and absorbed the power centers like fossilized barnacles their entire lives.

00:27:12.960 Nobody crosses them because they have so many friends stacked in so many layers of dominoes throughout every single federal organization.

00:27:21.180 And then they, those individuals can, of course, turn on you like an antibody reaction.

00:27:25.900 If you come in and you come to power in Washington, D.C. without their blessing, it's an antibody reaction.

00:27:32.540 That's what you've seen for the last four years of Donald Trump.

00:27:35.240 And, of course, the enemy truly is the American people, not Donald Trump.

00:27:39.700 Benny, Benny, can you hang up for one second?

00:27:41.880 I just want to hold you through the break.

00:27:42.900 Raheem Ghassam's with us.

00:27:43.820 I want to play one clip from Senator Blumenthal and get your response when we come back.

00:27:47.820 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:27:49.260 We're going to be back.

00:27:50.100 We've got Benny Johnson.

00:27:52.700 We have Raheem Ghassam.

00:27:53.860 Raheem Ghassam, National Pulse, the publisher, founder of National Pulse.

00:27:56.980 And, quite frankly, absolutely an extraordinary breaking story today from Tucker Carlson's footage of this explosive interview with the former head of Capitol Hill Police.

00:28:07.840 Short commercial break.

00:28:08.720 Back in a moment.

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00:29:58.420 Longer the terrorist who's going to fly an airplane into some building.

00:30:03.740 It is within our country, people, extremists, white supremacists, and others who would resort to violence to alter an election or take other kinds of violent action.

00:30:16.280 And so this trial is going to be a real test of our democracy.

00:30:22.020 And in a world where democracy is increasingly under threat, it will be a real opportunity for the United States of America to show that no one is above the law.

00:30:34.400 He's entitled to his rights just like any criminal defendant.

00:30:37.480 He's presumed innocent until proven guilty.

00:30:40.420 But the criminal justice system has to be allowed to work without interference.

00:30:44.220 We need to prevent interference and this kind of violent extremism.

00:30:48.600 We're going to return to Rahim Ghassam, the founder, publisher, and editor over at the National Pulse, in a second on this explosive footage he has that could not highlight better this construct of the ghost in the machine.

00:31:03.740 Exactly who makes decisions and who really runs things with this explosive interview with the chief of the Capitol Hill Police.

00:31:12.940 Before I let you go, Benny, and by the way, extraordinary, we'll be looking for more on this.

00:31:17.220 But Blumenthal right there equated you and others in War Room included in our audience with the 9-11 terrorists that flew planes into the towers and what killed 2,900 American citizens.

00:31:36.380 So, first off, that was an act of war, and I don't know what Dick Blumenthal, draft dodger, donning Dick, would know about acts of war. 0.97

00:31:47.460 This man is a proven coward and has lied about his supposed service in Vietnam, so maybe you should sit this one out, Dick.

00:31:55.160 But also, I believe that this is a tried-and-true tactic of the ghosts inside of the machine. 0.99

00:32:00.280 Just accuse everyone who you do not like as terrorists.

00:32:04.440 They call MLK a terrorist.

00:32:05.920 Just a reminder that they sent suicide letters to MLK.

00:32:08.520 The FBI did.

00:32:09.600 J. Edgar Hoover's FBI did this regularly.

00:32:13.220 They said that American citizens were terrorists, enemies of the state.

00:32:17.880 Now, that was always a moving target, whether it was a civil rights or a feminist movement or whether it was the unionized organizers back in the 1920s and 30s that J. Edgar Hoover cut his teeth on. 0.98

00:32:29.940 But J. Edgar Hoover always saw the American people as the enemy, and this group of individuals see us as the enemy.

00:32:37.480 And do they – are they ashamed about that legacy?

00:32:40.680 No, they put J. Edgar Hoover's name on the side of their building in downtown Washington, D.C. in letters that are three feet tall, Steve.

00:32:49.400 They love that legacy.

00:32:50.960 They embrace that legacy, and they continue it.

00:32:52.920 Today, the question for the American people is how do you fight a ghost?

00:32:58.780 Benny, how do people get this incredible tweet you've got up and how do they get to your other content?

00:33:05.060 Yeah, you can find us on Benny, at Benny Johnson, on all platforms, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram, Twitter as well.

00:33:13.940 We do a lot of great work on Twitter.

00:33:15.400 We're optimistic about the way that that platform is trending.

00:33:19.280 But also on The Benny Show is our podcast, and we stream live every single day starting at 11 a.m.

00:33:26.880 Benny, thank you so much.

00:33:28.000 I honored to have you on here.

00:33:29.380 God bless you, Steve.

00:33:31.140 Raheem.

00:33:32.120 Thanks, brother.

00:33:32.740 Raheem, before we go into more detail about this explosive footage that you have found that was not shown by Fox News.

00:33:42.200 In fact, let me be more brutally frank.

00:33:43.980 It was suppressed by the Murdochs.

00:33:47.920 How does that tie back into Benny's – this concept of the ghost in the machine and Blumenthal's comments about we are – we're extremists, even worse than domestic terrorists.

00:33:57.240 We're extremists like the terrorists that flew the planes into the Twin Towers.

00:34:03.540 It's a very wide-ranging question, and it's one that brings up actually a lot of emotions, because as somebody who left Islam in the aftermath of 9-11, I won't take lectures from Blumenthal, who just a few years ago was standing inside a mosque in Connecticut, you know, professing to be the lobbyist for all Muslims in the United States.

00:34:31.000 And peddling this ridiculous idea that there is some kind of rampant Islamophobia present in the United States at the moment.

00:34:39.700 And this is what they do, these people.

00:34:41.380 You know, they set groups of people against each other, divide and conquer, and it goes very much to the heart of what Benny was talking about.

00:34:48.920 And it manifests itself quite clearly in the Stephen Sund interview with Tucker Carlson as well, with what happened in January 6th also.

00:34:56.500 Because Sund says, in the first sort of 10 minutes of the interview, where they're laying the groundwork and the framework for the conversation writ large, he says, look, everything I do involves political leadership.

00:35:09.280 You know, the Capitol Hill police is not an independent police force that just happens to patrol, you know, around one of the most important buildings in America, if not the world.

00:35:19.440 It is a specifically created force that caters to the politicians and for the politicians and answers to the Speaker of the House.

00:35:28.840 And whether that's through the Sergeant at Arms or directly, as he says, speaking three times to Nancy Pelosi on the run-up to January the 6th.

00:35:37.660 By the way, you'll recall that Nancy Pelosi actually said she had no recollection of speaking to Stephen Sund at all on the run-up.

00:35:45.780 And Sund goes out there in the Tucker Carlson interview and says, what the heck are you talking about?

00:35:49.000 I've talked to you three times in 24 hours, you know, on the run-up to that.

00:35:52.840 But this, again, goes right back to the heart of the ghost in the machine, right?

00:35:57.260 Sund is the chief in name only.

00:35:59.800 You know, he's the chief on his business card.

00:36:01.560 He's the chief on a piece of paper on a letterhead.

00:36:03.860 He may have it in his email signature.

00:36:07.140 But really, the decisions that were taken on that day, as he says in the interview with Tucker, were somehow taken above the head of the chief of police on Capitol Hill.

00:36:17.200 Not somebody who was an acting or new chief of police.

00:36:20.040 This is somebody who had been in situ for a while, who had served as the D.C. MPD police officer for 20 years.

00:36:27.740 This isn't somebody who you can sort of turn around and say, well, look, we had to go with somebody more experienced, given the nature of the day.

00:36:33.340 No, this was as experienced as you get as a police officer.

00:36:36.680 And they went around him.

00:36:38.260 They told him, no, you may not listen to our intelligence.

00:36:41.300 We are not going to brief you in advance.

00:36:42.740 And by the way, no, you may not have any National Guard.

00:36:46.300 They told him, no National Guard.

00:36:48.220 Then they told him, when the fights were breaking out on Capitol Hill, between protesters and the Capitol Hill cops, for 71 minutes, he did not get any support up there.

00:37:01.800 And he says, in his words, that there is a cover up, quote, cover up surrounding all of those details.

00:37:09.240 He says in the clip that we have up on the National Pulse right now that there may even be, you know, it is not outrageous or outlandish or absurd to consider that the events that transpired that day are exactly the events that they wanted to have transpire that day.

00:37:27.020 Again, not my words.

00:37:28.860 The words of the former Capitol Hill police chief.

00:37:30.920 And if you can find me a better source on Capitol Hill on the day than that, I'm all ears.

00:37:38.780 Okay.

00:37:40.140 Just rewind.

00:37:41.340 I want to also go back to some of your previous reporting because you've been on this from the beginning.

00:37:45.280 I remember how the New York Times would then agree with your reporting but bury it down in the 20th paragraph.

00:37:51.760 Just hit rewind for a second on cover up and what they wanted.

00:37:57.380 Just give me your last minute again slowly so I can comprehend it.

00:38:02.080 Yeah, look, and just to go back to that point, I think a lot of people, you know, wouldn't have even known the National Pulse back a few years ago.

00:38:09.480 We were the first news outlet in the world to put together the timeline of events on January the 6th.

00:38:14.640 And they, hey, you know, those people at the Capitol building couldn't have been there after Trump's speech.

00:38:18.700 Trump couldn't have radicalized them.

00:38:19.980 Remember, that was the line originally.

00:38:21.620 They heard the speech.

00:38:23.020 They got all g'd up, went down and started smashing things apart.

00:38:26.100 No, it didn't work.

00:38:27.020 You couldn't work.

00:38:27.640 You couldn't get from the Ellipse to the Hill.

00:38:30.780 You know, you had to rewind time.

00:38:32.660 It had to have been Marty McFly and Back to the Future, right?

00:38:36.600 Then, you know, we were one of the first outlets to bust apart AOC's big lie about when she said that, you know, she thought the cops were going to rape her in the Capitol Hill toilets.

00:38:46.480 And it turns out that she was in one of the office buildings adjacent.

00:38:50.600 It was nowhere near the action.

00:38:51.980 You know, we were the first news outlet about discussing January the 6th to bust open the lie surrounding Officer Brian Sicknick and the idea that he was bludgeoned to death on the steps of the Capitol.

00:39:03.040 No, we were the first ones to say, actually, the coroner says he had a stroke.

00:39:06.680 Suddenly, everybody had to change their reporting on that.

00:39:08.800 So, yeah, we have been on this for a long time, and we will remain on this for a long time.

00:39:13.160 Stephen Sun, the Capitol Hill police chief, says in his own words that they would not give him the intelligence he needed to properly staff the Capitol for the events of that day.

00:39:23.860 And now we know, you know, you see the bike racks and all of that stuff.

00:39:27.340 Well, if you had the intel, why were you just using bike racks?

00:39:29.760 If you had the intel, why didn't you have National Guard deployed outside there?

00:39:33.320 You know, all of that sort of thing.

00:39:34.780 And he alleges in his words that as a result of all of those things, as a result of all of those conversations, of all the strategy that went in and behind this,

00:39:41.920 all of the conversations that he was not privy to, for whatever reason, there is and has and always will be a level of cover-up, his words, cover-up, regarding what happened on January 6th that day.

00:39:57.140 By the way, much more to come.

00:39:59.840 Yeah, I want to get to that in a second.

00:40:02.480 I want to hold that for the listeners because I want them to absorb this and the power of it.

00:40:06.220 And here's what I don't understand, as a matter of national policy or as a matter of, you know, news organizations are supposed to put forward news.

00:40:18.040 Do you agree, whatever side of the political spectrum you're on, Tucker Carlson's interview with the head of the Capitol Hill Police at the time is news, would be news, correct?

00:40:30.420 I don't do anything but the news.

00:40:32.000 We wouldn't publish this if it wasn't the news.

00:40:33.600 This is the news, especially when you get the indictment, especially when you see yesterday that Donald Trump's lawyers have even tried to subpoena for this information.

00:40:43.000 This is the news.

00:40:43.880 This goes to the heart of everything we're talking about, not just what happened in 2020 and 2021 and what's happened since.

00:40:51.000 You know, the empowerment of the deep state, the empowerment, the militarization, the politicization of all of that.

00:40:55.620 What Blumenthal talks about there is you're al-Qaeda, I'm al-Qaeda, all of that stuff.

00:40:59.680 And they're going to treat us like foreign combatants, you know, here in the United – on the soil of the United States, right?

00:41:06.080 But this also goes to next year.

00:41:08.380 It goes right to the heart of what we can expect over the next year and what happens in November of next year.

00:41:14.280 And I also want to – on a very specific and kind of tactical level, Jack Smith opens up his talking indictment, but his press conference the other day, he absolutely goes to the violence and everything.

00:41:28.020 It's Jack Smith.

00:41:28.700 It's not War Room.

00:41:29.660 It's not Raheem.

00:41:30.840 It's not Tucker.

00:41:31.600 It's Jack Smith.

00:41:32.260 He lays the predicate down of a violent, I don't know, insurrection or whatever he's saying.

00:41:37.100 He opens his opening statement.

00:41:39.340 He lays the predicate.

00:41:41.220 So therefore, understanding the importance of this, Brother Kassam, why would the Murdochs go out of their way to suppress this vital information that the nation has to hear and see?

00:41:57.940 Well, two major reasons jump to mind.

00:42:04.200 And, you know, the first motivator for the Murdochs is always money.

00:42:07.960 This they think – and I'm sure their lawyers may have told them – might cost them money.

00:42:13.220 Somebody might sue.

00:42:14.240 Somebody might get upset.

00:42:15.720 The government might crack down on them.

00:42:17.400 You won't get as much kid-glove behavior out of the Biden regime if you do something like this.

00:42:22.900 You know, there are all sorts of implications to that, especially when you consider that Congress is still in the hands of the Democrats.

00:42:28.780 And by that, what I mean is most Republicans on Capitol Hill are just Democrats in disguise.

00:42:33.720 But the other part of it, of course, is the narrative.

00:42:37.140 You know, Fox News' narrative now, controlled by Paul Ryan and others up there at Fox, is the destruction of Donald Trump.

00:42:43.800 That is their primary goal.

00:42:45.200 You know, like CNN had the coronavirus ticker up in every single death, in every single number.

00:42:51.180 Well, Fox News has that, but for the attempted, you know, fratricide of the MAGA movement, that is their editorial position inside that building on Fifth Avenue, and they are pursuing it with gusto.

00:43:12.160 Okay.

00:43:13.000 Raheem, publisher, everybody go to the National Pulse.

00:43:16.140 You're going to hang with me for the next segment.

00:43:18.340 Where on the National Pulse do they go, brother?

00:43:21.180 Yeah, I need everybody to go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room.

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00:43:37.900 Raheem will be with us next.

00:43:39.700 And understanding Raheem is still an Englishman.

00:43:42.520 Fox headquarters is on Sixth Avenue.

00:43:45.480 Not Avenue of the Americas, not Fifth Avenue, Sixth Avenue.

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00:45:39.280 Pentagon supervise their military intel.

00:45:42.820 Would they have been gathering, it sounds like they were gathering information about January 6th before it happened.

00:45:49.600 Well, again, for Milley and Miller to be that concerned about January 6th in advance, they had to be getting the intelligence from somewhere.

00:46:00.200 I mean, talk about locking down Washington, that's a huge undertaking.

00:46:04.540 And, again, to never notify me.

00:46:08.720 But when you begin to sit there and wonder about it.

00:46:10.620 So, Sue, you believe that they were gathering intelligence.

00:46:13.180 I mean, they were.

00:46:14.040 For them to think that they were getting the intelligence.

00:46:16.840 And I'm asking this because there was a very weird moment in the January 6th committee interviews.

00:46:24.640 And they interviewed a man who was caught on camera by a lot of people encouraging, lawbreaking, encouraging people to run into the Capitol to break the law.

00:46:37.660 The implication was to commit violence.

00:46:39.920 He has never been arrested or charged with anything.

00:46:43.940 And that's just very, very strange.

00:46:46.240 You know, over a thousand people have been charged.

00:46:48.280 But he has not been.

00:46:49.120 And so, the committee released a statement saying we are positive he was not working with law enforcement. 0.99

00:46:59.920 It seems you have to be an idiot not to assume he's working with somebody. 0.99

00:47:03.320 Why haven't they arrested him? 1.00

00:47:04.240 I mean, come on.

00:47:05.420 Right?

00:47:05.860 So, my thought was, well, they didn't mention military intelligence.

00:47:10.020 This guy's a veteran.

00:47:12.360 Yes.

00:47:13.440 Am I being crazy and wondering this?

00:47:15.500 No, no, you're not.

00:47:16.300 I actually write about that person in the book.

00:47:18.520 It raises concern for me, his involvement, and the fact that we haven't learned more.

00:47:23.700 Matter of fact, I think the January 6th committee thanked him for his candor.

00:47:30.120 Okay.

00:47:31.160 Raheem Kassam.

00:47:32.860 And, by the way, the audio is the way the audio is.

00:47:35.880 That's not an issue with our production team or Denver.

00:47:40.500 It's just how it is.

00:47:41.860 So, it's a little choppy there.

00:47:44.140 Are they discussing Ray Epps, Raheem?

00:47:46.420 Yeah, I mean, it certainly sounds like it.

00:47:50.160 There's no other individual, I think, that fits the bill of the discussion that was just had between Tucker Carlson and Steve Sund than Ray Epps.

00:47:58.400 Ray Epps, who was seen the night before January the 6th, you know, urging people to go into the Capitol the next day.

00:48:05.540 Ray Epps, who was seen at the Ellipse, guiding people towards the Capitol.

00:48:08.860 And then Ray Epps, he was seen at the Capitol, attempting to guide people in.

00:48:13.020 It's the same Ray Epps, who has not been charged, who was thanked, as Stephen Sund says there, by the January 6th committee for his candor in his testimony to them.

00:48:23.580 And it's the same Ray Epps, who texts his friends and family members, saying that he, in his words, quote, orchestrated the entire thing on January 6th.

00:48:34.420 I think this is one of the most critical reasons why Fox News and Rupert Murdoch, especially, and all of the establishment surrounding that operation did not want this interview ever aired.

00:48:45.900 This is explosive stuff.

00:48:47.900 And, you know, I'm delighted to have broken it this morning with you guys on The Wall Room.

00:48:51.520 Haven't, hasn't Epps, I think, given an interview or said that he's under pressure now or somebody's leaked that the government's actually looking at potential charges against him?

00:49:05.800 And hasn't he either threatened or actually begun the process of suing, I think it's Tucker and Fox, about calling out on this?

00:49:14.080 Is that the facts as they stand now?

00:49:17.340 Now, Epps has, I think, given a bunch of interviews saying, not only am I innocent, I've been persecuted, and now the government's actually looking at charges.

00:49:25.340 And additionally, he's actually suing Fox?

00:49:28.840 Yeah, that's right.

00:49:29.760 And, of course, any reasonable person would believe that Ray Epps has his right to his say and has his right to his day in court over this stuff.

00:49:38.760 But we've now, you know, progressed how many years since that incident where nothing was done about any of this?

00:49:45.820 In fact, as Steve Sun says there again, I will reiterate, he was thanked by the January 6th Committee for his candor in his testimony.

00:49:53.460 He was not brought up on charges.

00:49:54.820 They never asked him any follow-up questions to the plethora of videos out there that show him, you know, in his words, again, orchestrating the events of January the 6th.

00:50:04.540 And now his lawyer has come out with a statement because I think Joe Rogan has actually been talking about this recently.

00:50:10.220 And the Ray Epps' lawyer statement says,

00:50:13.040 So you see what's happening there.

00:50:42.100 You know, Ray Epps and his Democrat lawyers now want to go after these people for a cash settlement.

00:50:46.900 That's what's happening.

00:50:47.720 That's very obvious. 0.94

00:50:49.020 But it's silly. 0.83

00:50:51.000 It's silly on the face of it because he says without Fox and Tucker, Ray would be unknown and unassailed. 0.58

00:50:56.480 Well, Fox and Tucker didn't identify Ray Epps.

00:50:59.740 And Ray Epps is the one who decided to go there on January the 6th with his tourniquets, with his, you know, his kit that he took with him that day, with the disappearance in the middle of the day where he says, oh, I caught a ride back to my hotel with some stranger.

00:51:16.040 I don't know who it was.

00:51:16.940 Don't ask me any more questions about that.

00:51:18.540 I did a long substack on his testimony, by the way, a couple of months ago when we went through all of this.

00:51:23.600 And by the way, Ray Epps is the one who decided to text his friends saying that he had orchestrated it.

00:51:29.720 So, you know, for the lawyers to come out and say, oh, you know, Ray Epps' notoriety is down to Fox and Tucker.

00:51:36.500 I don't think that holds up in a courtroom.

00:51:40.300 Raheem, I understand you're slammed over National Pulse, particularly putting out more of these videos.

00:51:45.660 But I ask you to just stay through the break because I want to go back to the J6 committee.

00:51:52.960 I missed Sun's testimony in front of the nation at J6.

00:51:58.880 I missed that.

00:51:59.720 I missed Chris Miller, the active secretary of defense.

00:52:02.100 I missed Chris Miller's and I missed Sun's testimony.

00:52:05.180 And I just want to make sure that I'm sure it's there somewhere and I want to discuss what they said in front of the J6. 0.98

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Bannon's War Room - August 03, 2023

Episode 2926： The Fox News Coverups Of J6

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