On this episode of the War Room, Steve is joined by Jack Posobiec and Sheila Walker to discuss the devastating fires on the island of Maui, Hawaii, and the possible link between the fires and the Islamic extremists responsible for them.
00:01:32.460Well, Steve, we'll leave it to Barack Obama to prove where he's really from.
00:01:37.980But when you're looking at some of these videos, I mean, this looks like this looks like stuff that you see out of Ukraine.
00:01:44.820This looks like stuff you see out of Wagner videos after they've rolled through town.
00:01:49.500This looks like the burning of Kenosha when I was there after Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:01:53.900And those those do you see the cars completely burnt out?
00:01:57.180But the fact that you see it and I hate to say this, Steve, but, you know, the fact that that dog wasn't able to get away.
00:02:03.740And I can understand if we're not showing that video really has to beg the question.
00:02:09.240How many of these cars have bodies in them?
00:02:10.860How many of these cars had people that because of the smoke or because of the extreme heat were not able to get away or they were flash charred themselves?
00:02:20.760I mean, this stuff looks like it looks like something you see from an airburst in the military, a missile airburst that just sends a shockwave down over the entire area.
00:02:30.020And you can see, obviously, some vehicles that were not were not hit, probably drove in later, people driving by after the fact.
00:02:37.580But something something absolutely horrific happened in Maui.
00:02:46.200Absolutely terrible. And our hearts go out to these people there.
00:02:49.500Jack, how do people following on social media? You're putting up stuff all day long and obviously putting up a lot of stuff on Maui.
00:02:57.420It will be up 2 p.m. today, Eastern here on Human Events Live after Charlie Kirk.
00:03:02.100By the way, just got off the phone with Mike Lindell this morning.
00:03:04.940We had a briefing and people really need to understand that what's coming out this week in in Missouri there is going to be absolutely incredible.
00:03:14.560I know what the plan is. I am not at liberty yet to share the plan.
00:03:18.360But people understand that if you want to get your country back, you need to take your elections back first.
00:03:24.220So I've been I've been briefed in. I've been read in on the plan.
00:03:27.420And I am I'm very optimistic about what's going to be coming out of Springfield, Missouri later this week.
00:03:35.260Fantastic. Jack, thank you so much for taking the time away today to do this.
00:04:13.000Everyone knows someone who was affected in this tragedy.
00:04:16.080So the thing right now is I can speak to the experience of the fire and or the current recovery efforts or also what we need in the future.
00:04:26.140And everything that Jack Posobiec was speaking to is absolutely correct.
00:04:31.280His theories, his observations, absolutely correct.
00:04:38.680Tell us just let's start with what happened, what you saw and just walk us through that,
00:04:44.300because I think that a lot of people are concerned about this thing looks so horrific.
00:04:49.240People are having a tough time, at least on the mainland, grasping how this could simply be a wildfire.
00:04:55.040So can you just walk us through your eyewitness of what happened and just get us up to speed of what's going on before we talk about the current damage and then going forward?
00:06:20.540I mean, after you were told it was 100% contained, it hit again?
00:06:26.600Is that when it hit the old town, or is it hit other residential areas?
00:06:30.060In that area, supposedly it was contained, but it had started up higher on the West Maui Mountain up in that area.
00:06:37.900And so no one thought that the lower town of Lahaina was in danger at all.
00:06:41.920There was no preparedness, no understanding that that might even be a possibility for any of those buildings down lower to catch on fire.
00:06:49.760And at the same time, there were reports of other fires all over the island.
00:06:54.540So an upcountry fire in Kula, if you know these locations, and a Kihei fire was reported.
00:07:00.740So there were fires everywhere, kind of coming out sporadically, basically on social media, and even to the point where my own neighborhood in Kihei was evacuated.
00:07:10.240I did get an evacuation notice from my phone.
00:07:13.220So some sort of amber alert came across my phone that said evacuate at 11.30 p.m. that night.
00:07:18.540And we had no idea that Lahaina had already burned.
00:07:21.560So when we got the evacuation notice, we packed up our cars and tried to evacuate my neighborhood.
00:07:28.140But no one really knew what direction to go into because there were no reports.
00:07:36.020I mean, that kind of information was just not made available, and I find that just absolutely unacceptable.
00:07:42.320And this is where I will focus in the future.
00:07:46.500Infrastructure, preparedness is so needed here on a small island like Maui with very small resources.
00:07:52.980Talk to me about were the winds that's being blamed on a combination of climate change, dry cane or underbrush and be cleared off, and the hurricane winds from the hurricane was a couple of miles out.
00:08:10.640Did the wind seem to you to be, because some people are saying they were 60 miles an hour, 70 miles an hour, which is a, that is a stiff breeze.
00:08:17.740Were the winds beforehand anything that got your attention?
00:08:34.300And what I did observe the few days beforehand, there was some sort of ash in the air everywhere.
00:08:40.120So there was something clouding the air everywhere.
00:08:43.760In my background here, normally I can see straight out to Ko'olawe, the next island.
00:08:48.560And that island wasn't even visible to me the days leading up to this.
00:08:53.380So I'm not sure what was in the atmosphere, but there was something clouding the atmosphere for a few days.
00:08:58.500And then the winds just kept building, and they were sporadic at times.
00:09:02.740But I didn't see anyone's umbrellas lifting off.
00:09:05.980I mean, in high winds, normally you have the, we take all of our patio furniture away, and there was nothing that lifted any of our patio chairs.
00:09:16.180So even though it was gusty, it didn't seem that bad.
00:09:18.920But somehow Lahaina turned into some sort of wind tunnel.
00:09:23.060And I would not, I don't want to project how that was caused.
00:09:32.680Let me go back to the ash, you said for a couple of days beforehand.
00:09:39.540Had there been, there had been talk, there were smaller brush fires going.
00:09:45.100But you had a problem a year ago, I think, that some people were arrested for arson.
00:09:49.500Has the government come out, or the authorities come out and said, the cause of this, is it arson?
00:09:54.760Because 85% of, I think, wildfires are set by humans, or have not, or some accidentally, some on purpose, but have a human element to it.
00:10:03.200A couple of days beforehand, that ash, did that come from brush fires that were already going on that you were aware of?
00:10:09.440No, there were no brush fires at that point.
00:10:12.180Sometimes the wind kicks up some of the topsoil from the valley, but it wasn't brown like the topsoil dust.
00:11:24.660We know what it sounds like, and when you hear that air raid siren, that's when you take cover if it's not one of their testing days.
00:11:31.480So there's no reason why those shouldn't have been sounded and going off, like everywhere, all over the island, all day long.
00:11:37.760What have the authorities told you so far?
00:11:42.980What have they told the citizens, not people here in the mainland or not people worldwide?
00:11:47.900What are they telling the citizens right now about what actually happened?
00:11:51.700Are you getting any constant information from them?
00:11:54.400Oh, of course, they just say the high winds from the hurricane and the low-pressure system created the fires, sparked the fires.
00:12:02.220So they're giving us explanations, but they don't sound that plausible, especially when you see the disaster, especially when you see the results.
00:12:09.600I was present during 9-11 in Manhattan.
00:12:56.920Let's just pray it's not in the thousands, but it's definitely going to rise.
00:13:01.520They're having trouble identifying the bodies because a lot of people are just turned to ash, and there's not much left of them.
00:13:08.660So it is a delicate setting, and I understand that they want to keep people out, but they've actually locked – the official authorities who've come in now have locked down the area way too tight so that people cannot get supplies into the other residents who are without electricity.
00:13:27.120Our boots-on-the-ground local community, we were there first.
00:13:32.060We had already set up and were supplying everyone with everything they needed.
00:13:35.880And then when the big agencies come in, they lock everyone down.
00:13:42.340And so it makes it even more heartbreaking for those people in pain.
00:13:46.580Maybe it's needed to identify the bodies and to gather everyone who might be turned to ash, but there needs to be a better system.
00:13:58.040But like I said, there's only one road in and one road out.
00:14:00.980There is a back road that's very treacherous, and most people should not be taking that back road, and it's actually closed leaving the town.
00:14:08.280So the only way in and out is on the main road, and the authorities have that locked down really tight.
00:14:14.100You must show an ID or a medical excuse from a doctor in order to get in.
00:14:18.600It's really – and now they're suggesting that they're going to create ID cards so that people could come and go if you show your papers.
00:14:29.660Sheila, can you hang on for one second?
00:14:31.160Sheila Walker joins us from Maui about this intense tragedy that's taking place.
00:14:38.280In this – one of the beautiful islands of the Hawaiian Islands and, of course, the ancient capital of the Hawaiian Islands.
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00:21:04.800I mean, I've seen more about what's happening here from the national news, from the big syndicates in the national news than I have from local news.
00:21:12.500And it's not because they don't want to.
00:21:14.660They haven't been able to get their hands on the information or get the interviews with any of the officials here.
00:21:20.360So the local news is definitely being repressed on purpose.
00:21:24.140And so all of us social media warriors are trying to get the message out of what's really going on here,
00:21:30.100because the magnitude of this is unfathomable.
00:21:34.400It's the worst disaster we've seen in the islands in all of its history.
00:21:40.040And it is said to be the worst wildfire disaster in all of the United States.
00:22:08.620Sheila, I just mentioned something before you go, that it could be the greatest casualties ever in a wildfire.
00:22:15.480If you look at out west, some of that underbrush has never been cut away, and some of these massive forests that have burned.
00:22:21.940And then you see Hawaii, and they're trying to blame on climate change, and, you know, there's dry seas.
00:22:26.900You know, you guys have a drought going on, and the cane.
00:22:30.220It's just something that doesn't add up.
00:22:31.260I mean, that's why the authorities need to come out and start putting out some information because it's just so many things here that just don't make sense.
00:22:38.420Sheila Walker, how do people get to you?
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00:23:34.200Is the attorney general now admitting, Brother Hoff, that the police reports are accurate and true, that everything that you've broken with these great investigators and these great heroes that are putting it forward in Michigan actually did happen?
00:23:49.100Yeah, this was quite a surprise for us.
00:23:52.480Well, I think it was quite a little bit.
00:23:55.480The attorney general there, far left attorney general, came out with a statement, and the Detroit News wrote about this, and it pretty much echoed our reporting for the whole week.
00:24:06.340They admitted that there was 8,000 to 10,000 suspected fraudulent registrations turned into the Muskegon County or Muskegon City Clerk's Office during the election.
00:24:16.840uh they admitted that uh the the group was gbi strategies which we had we had uh reported on
00:24:25.540uh they admitted that uh this group was connected with democrats this was actually in the detroit
00:24:31.300press i mean that's a shock it's you know after reading this report in the detroit press steve
00:24:37.640we were tempted to um file charges for them stealing our work because basically what they
00:24:44.280said was everything that we had confirmed during the week and so um it really is quite surprising
00:24:52.720and steve i think it takes greater minds uh you know than than us but why would they come out and
00:24:59.380admit all of this on a friday it's it's just it's really stunning i guess they had no escape hatch
00:25:06.240um we also did i did speak with the uh police officer on friday who wrote this report who did
00:25:13.260the investigation it's an amazing investigation incredible read if if your uh listeners and
00:25:18.700viewers want to want to uh look at it um but he he you know the first thing he said to me was um
00:25:25.840the report speaks for itself he didn't know who i was i don't think and so he and it appeared to me
00:25:32.140that maybe he's had um a few calls from some other uh maybe not so friendly news organizations but that
00:25:38.780was his first uh response he told me to talk to the communications person but i peppered him with
00:25:44.280a few questions and he also admitted that this is an organization gbi strategies from what he found
00:25:51.360it's a registration organization funded by democrats uh black block this uh black pack this uh uh
00:26:00.040organization that funds democrat causes it's it says it's black pack it's actually funded by white
00:26:07.220liberals um but uh they they uh donated according to the fec for 11 million in 2020 to gbi strategies
00:26:15.600and there's also proof that democrat groups uh funded another 5 million in 2020 to uh this this uh
00:26:25.560organization so that's a whole lot of money for people going out uh and and creating a whole lot of
00:26:34.180uh registration steve across the country so this police officer confirmed to me that they're in
00:26:39.300several uh several states from his research um but it's it's a very damning report and um again uh we
00:26:47.840continue to follow uh the leads we have some people now who are speaking with us we uh are excited to
00:26:54.440report um that that we'll have some updates in the coming days and uh our wonderful reporter patty
00:27:01.520mcmurray is going to uh come out with uh an exclusive in a couple hours on the firearms that
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00:27:21.220my hometown um we're going to keep hoffed because dana nestle i think try to take a mini victory lap
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