US mortgage rates surge to their highest level in 21 years, and gas prices hit a 10-month high. On this day in 1848, the New York Times published a story about the discovery of gold in California that started the gold rush.
00:01:31.940You know, it's a really interesting moment for the housing market because if you are a new buyer in this market, you're just being clobbered from all sides.
00:01:39.680We've got mortgage rates at a 21-year high.
00:01:41.780We've got very little inventory because, as you mentioned, people just aren't selling houses.
00:01:46.780And we have seen, you know, actually some new construction coming online.
00:01:50.320But that hasn't been as robust as you might have expected in a world where we didn't have higher interest rates.
00:01:55.140You know, the higher interest rates also deter people from building houses.
00:02:00.380Affordability is really, really tough.
00:02:02.080Prices are high even as these mortgage rates keep ratcheting up.
00:02:06.080And so it's a very challenging moment for the housing market, which is why we've seen a real slowdown in the housing market over the last year and a half.
00:02:20.800I'm going to get into the gas prices with Dave Walsh.
00:02:23.600It is Saturday, 19 August, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
00:02:28.440On this date in 1848, the New York Herald, which was the New York Times of its period, that was the paper.
00:02:35.800In fact, I think that was the paper that one of the papers really promoted then Abraham Lincoln when he went to Cooper Union and gave the talk that really propelled him into the presidency.
00:03:29.500Take your number two pencil and write that, put that into your notebook, nomenclature, credit event.
00:03:33.800You're going to hear a lot about this in the coming days and weeks ahead as the world now prepares for the implosion of the Chinese economy, the CCP's economy, under a mountain of debt that they can't pay off.
00:03:51.300I think I got up on Getter, but I haven't given the guys in Denver.
00:03:53.780My bad, but I'll put it up later when Brad comes on.
00:03:56.820The Commerce Secretary, they're sending the Commerce Secretary, they're sending the Commerce Secretary to Beijing.
00:04:05.380And Beijing's saying right now, hey, we need help and you've got to help us.
00:04:09.800And what you've got to ease up on is the Trump tariffs and other things that President Trump put in to break the Chinese Communist Party and actually to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States and make sure our farmers were not being gamed by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:04:29.420There's a lot going on, but the most important thing that is going on right now is the global capital markets because that's going to drive so much of these other things.
00:04:37.440We know from Chip Roy, he has sent out a 10-part tweet thread, and we are going to have Russ Vogt is going to kick off the show on Monday morning and walk us through all of it.
00:04:49.380There is going to be – they're going to force Biden's hand to shut down the government on September 30th.
00:04:54.740Kevin McCarthy made a major, major, major strategic mistake out in – as we knew he would, and that's why we were all over what was going on in Jackson Hole.
00:05:03.820To the donors, because remember, the donors are the guys that told him to cut that deal in the first place.
00:05:12.400Remember, the donor class are the ones that told McCarthy, cut a two-year deal, don't have it one year.
00:05:16.780Because it was just one year that next May at the beginning of the general election with the country even at $35, $36 trillion of debt, people will start looking around and say,
00:05:28.220hey, we've got to do this, we've got to do that, but one thing we have to do is maybe we have to raise taxes on the donor class, and that's the one thing they refuse to do.
00:05:37.200They don't mind pushing this spending as long as you're paying for it through inflation, through higher mortgage rates, higher credit card rates, lack of credit, even the credit card industry for yourself.
00:05:51.100As long as you're paying for it, as long as you're underwriting it, they don't mind it.
00:05:56.640But McCarthy tipped his hand and already talked about how close – a political report this week – how close he's working with Schumer and McConnell already on a CR.
00:06:06.400We just need a couple more weeks. We just need a couple more weeks to get the appropriations in. That's all a lie.
00:06:12.040This has to be brought to a head. It has to be brought to a head. As soon as they return in September, it has to be brought to a head.
00:06:17.280And remember, all the conservatives that sat there and backed the spending bill and said, hey, we're going to give them the appropriations process.
00:06:23.480That's where we're really going to make the cuts. Just remember who they were and remember to hold their feet to the fire when these votes come up because you're not going to get control of our economy.
00:06:35.420We're not going to pull out of this until step one, we stop the Federal Reserve from just continuing to print money to pay for these massive deficits that don't help you.
00:06:45.700Think about it for a second. What is the government actually doing for you that's helping you besides destroying the purchasing power of your hard-earned income?
00:06:54.860Now down 17, what, 17, almost 20 percent since the Biden regime took over.
00:07:00.580The Durban, they're meeting this week and trying to come up with an alternative currency, a basket of it.
00:07:05.700It shouldn't be lost on you that the pressure on the ruble and the pressure on China's yuan are probably the greatest they've ever been.
00:07:13.980Now that is not simply that, hey, people want to keep us as the prime reserve currency.
00:07:18.480Those economies, first off, the Russians are paying the price right now for the economic warfare that's being driven by the West against them in this fight for the Ukraine.
00:07:29.400And, of course, the CCP has been kicking the can down the road forever.
00:07:34.120The only thing that can save the Chinese Communist Party, the only thing, is a bailout by the United States government, by you, the taxpayers.
00:07:41.220And they're going to try to do it in many different ways.
00:07:44.680The Commerce Secretary is heading over there.
00:07:46.540And the headline in Politico, Beijing needs a helping hand and the Commerce Secretary is going over there to have a conversation with them.
00:08:04.880When we gave the country to Mao and the communists, right, and stabbed the nationalists in the back in 1949, in 1989, when the Bush junta sent Scowcraft over during Tiananmen Square, when the blood hadn't even dried of Chinese patriots that were trying to rally around the goddess of democracy, we sold them out and backed Deng Xiaoping and the regime.
00:08:28.680And, baby, here it comes the third time.
00:08:31.260And then we let them in the World Trade Organization.
00:08:45.620It is material that if you had followed me on Breitbart Radio, you would have heard seven or eight years ago.
00:08:53.600If you're just now a member of the Wardroom Cadre, Wardroom Posse, the vanguard here, you've heard it for the last three years.
00:09:01.860And it's shocking what people don't know.
00:09:03.800The rules-based, the post-war international rules-based order, this fetish that you hear on MSNBC and the New York Times got to be withheld, upheld by your tax dollars in the bloods and sweat of your children and grandchildren, sons and daughters on the foreign battlefields.
00:09:24.200That is the system that the CCP helped create and then gamed with the party of Davos, the city of London, Wall Street, the Silicon Valley, gamed to take the high-value-added jobs away, make sure that those high-value-added jobs are performed by slave labor of the Lao Baixing in China, right, to your detriment, to your detriment.
00:09:49.700And now they want you to defend that at all costs, the post-war international rules-based order, which is crumbling all around us, and what they will do to support that, the lies and misrepresentations and bald-faced lies and the immoral activity of throwing the best and the brightest, the flower of their generation in Ukraine into the churnal house of the eastern front of that war.
00:10:19.440Coupled with now, we're sending, we're going to go bail out the Chinese Communist Party again? Is that what that, is this what Biden's going to do? It wouldn't have anything to do that he's compromised.
00:10:29.980It wouldn't have anything to do with he's compromised, that he ran the pivot to Asia for Obama. And the entire time, all he did was kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party. His entire eight years as vice president, we forward deployed one marine brigade to Brisbane, Australia. That was it. That was the big pivot.
00:10:49.440When we came to the White House and said, hey, I want all the documents. They're going to fill a room. We want to go through every piece of analysis, every document. They sent a thing like this. It wasn't a room. It was a memo. That's what they had done.
00:11:00.900And now we know why. The guy was on the take the entire time. The guy was taking money. And so here's for McCarthy. McCarthy, you're not going to divert you. First off, you must immediately begin a formal impeachment inquiry.
00:11:16.980Even the media is reporting. Even when you go out to to to Jackson Hole with all the big shots and bigwigs, they're even saying this is so egregious. And these are people that are not Trump fans.
00:11:28.640This is so egregious. You've got to get to the bottom of Joe Biden. And now, you know, from the emails they've gotten that he's talking to Hunter all the time under a false name.
00:11:37.540Who does that? Do you do that with your kids? When you when you got to communicate with them, do you make up some make up some name for your email? Do you do that?
00:11:46.460I don't think so. Right. Why? I tell you why. They knew they were taking money with two fists from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:11:53.040And now they're going to bail them out. The only way the Chinese Communist Party doesn't fall because they're going to have they're already having a massive credit event.
00:12:01.140Evergrande is declared bankruptcy. The shadow bank with Zhangji, the shadow bank, another two hundred fifty billion dollars is teetering on the edge.
00:12:09.420They've got what country day is the other is the other real estate lender, other commercial property lender like Evergrande on on basically about to auger into the hillside, as they say, in naval air.
00:12:21.100It's all sitting right there. A massive credit event for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:12:27.100And people are talking about they need a trillion dollar bailout. They don't have a trillion dollars.
00:12:31.460And quite frankly, they don't since they're not the prime reserve currency, they just can't print it like the United States can.
00:12:38.000This is one of the reasons for Durban. This is one of the reasons they want to have a de-dollarization.
00:12:42.680They want to take that power away from us and they want that power.
00:12:46.600The timing for them right now couldn't be worse, but they're going to come up with an alternative.
00:12:49.900And by the way, the BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, are be joined by another 40 countries, another 40 countries that are creating a different order than the post-war international rules-based order.
00:13:03.900And you know why? They're tired of the West jamming them.
00:13:07.320Now, I'm not making an excuse for these people. Many of them are our enemies.
00:13:10.380But we have played into their hands and here's who's done it.
00:13:14.200The elites, the elites who have concentrated all the wealth and power, have concentrated all the wealth and power in this country and made out more than any generation in history.
00:13:23.400They have consolidated more wealth themselves than have ever been done.
00:13:26.580If the founders came back here, they would go, what have you guys allowed to happen?
00:13:29.380We specifically fought a revolution. So we didn't have not just a monarchy.
00:13:34.020We didn't have an oligarchy. We didn't have the British East India Company running the ports and running trade in the United States.
00:13:40.800We fought that. You remember the Tea Party? That's what we threw the tea over the side, said, hey, suck on this, London.
00:13:46.360Right now you've allowed it. Not just allowed it. Let's be brutally frank.
00:13:50.480You rang doorbells, gave money and voted for it. That's that is what Donald Trump's hammering.
00:13:57.240That's why Donald Trump is such an enemy to the system. That is why Donald Trump is such a threat.
00:14:02.120That is why at last count, 91 indictments, 700 years in prison. Think about that for a second.
00:14:08.680Ninety one indictments, 700, 700 years in prison for what?
00:14:12.620For bringing up the fact that the elite stole the 2020 election and this illegitimate regime has got us now on the precipice of a constitutional, a geopolitical, a financial and economic and cultural crisis.
00:14:27.680Short commercial break. We're going to roll it all through. We'll start in Ukraine, go to China, come back to the United States economy, talk about energy.
00:14:34.260Then we're going to visit. We're going to go to Maui, get a special report from there.
00:14:40.320Joe Allen's here. And we're going to have a very special segment on the Commonwealth of Virginia, my beloved home state.
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00:16:33.400One of the central parts of this fight that's going to happen when they return on September 12th, September 12th to the 30th, of which Joe Biden is going to be forced to shut down his illegitimate regime.
00:16:49.040Part of this firefight is going to be on this situation in Ukraine.
00:16:52.640Just remember, and when you talk to friends, they're going to sit there and go, what are you talking about?
00:16:57.220When you start telling them the details that you've learned here in the war room and by your own study and analysis and going to different sites, they're going to go, wow, I've never heard that.
00:17:09.660And what they're trying to do to separate themselves from the catastrophe they've caused, they're pushing out all kinds of alternatives right now.
00:17:17.540We're going to make sure that you understand the inside baseball of exactly what's happening here.
00:17:22.040But just remember, everything we said about Ukraine from the very beginning of this war has turned out to be 100% accurate.
00:17:28.840We were right in all the other mainstream media and, quite frankly, the embarrassing fanboys in the conservative movement, right, were wrong, 100% wrong.
00:17:38.460And we told them why they were wrong at the time.
00:17:40.080And all they've done is now had 50,000 – excuse me – the Pentagon's new estimate I put up last night, I think, at the Guardian, Ben Harnwell.
00:17:50.280I think that the source of the Pentagon said 70,000, 70,000, I think, KIAs, 70,000 killed in actions of the Ukrainian army, another 120,000.
00:18:04.740I think the KIAs may be both civilians and military, but 120,000 wounded, and many of those severely wounded.
00:18:20.780Right now, there's a massive pivot going on as they understand that, first off, the reason that – the biggest problem they have is that a lot of the Ukrainians are waking up to the fact that this is a slaughter pen, and they've been funneled into that slaughter pen, particularly their young people.
00:18:40.660And the parents and the young people have come up with every bit of cash they can get to make sure that their sons and daughters are not funneled into the charnel house.
00:18:50.300And that's why they've had this massive – Zelensky last week, as Ben broke on here, relieved all the members of the senior command of the recruitment divisions, coming – starting with this in Odessa, where the guy had taken $5 million and laundered the money through his wife to Spain, to Spanish real estate.
00:19:09.120But now we're seeing – since these articles, since the New York Times reported yesterday, 500 – and they got that – the New York Times and Washington Post, Ben, are getting this directly from American senior intelligence officials, 500,000 casualties total in Ukraine now.
00:19:27.240Ben Harnwell, what's the pivot we're seeing?
00:19:29.360Ben Harnwell, I just want to add to what you were just saying.
00:19:33.740We're going to cover this a little bit later in my segment today.
00:19:37.300But the average figure that people are bribing, that the parents of young kids are paying to officials, have been paying up until they were all fired, as you said last week, on a per-person basis is between $2,000 and $10,000 per person.
00:20:06.300We've been describing this as it was taking place, before it took place, as it was taking place.
00:20:13.000And the latest news in this, this was from during the week.
00:20:16.060Now, it depends how naive Warren Posse – it really depends how naive you want to be when you digest these facts.
00:20:24.480I'm guessing from the Warren Posse's perspective, they're all BDI cynics like me, so I don't think it's going to wash particularly.
00:20:32.340However, the official story is that Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General for NATO, his chief of staff, gave an interview to a Norwegian newspaper.
00:20:44.080And what he said was, and I quote, I think that a solution could be for Ukraine to give up territory and get NATO membership in return.
00:20:56.620And obviously, the Ukrainians were quite upset with that, put a lot of pressure on NATO.
00:21:03.720And there was a half-hearted walk back of that expression.
00:21:10.500This is NATO basically saying, it's pulling the rug from the Ukrainians' position that it's held quite consistently right across the administration,
00:21:22.080that they want every inch of their territory back, not just from the present invasion, but from 2014.
00:21:30.060It's primarily Crimea, which obviously was basically a means for keeping the United States in funding the war,
00:21:39.840because that's the position that Russia is remotely going to accept, even on the essentials for peace negotiations to take place.
00:21:51.940So this is NATO basically putting the rug from under that position.
00:21:54.880Now, when I say it depends how naive you want to be, Jens Stoltenberg came and said, no, no, this is my chief of staff misspoke.
00:22:03.380That's not really what he meant to say.
00:22:06.020Now, you can either believe that the chief of staff speaking in Norwegian to a Norwegian newspaper was basically a novice at his job,
00:22:17.480didn't really pay much attention to what he was saying.
00:22:19.620Or you can actually say he was laying out very clearly a signal to Ukraine how things are going to be in the very near future.
00:22:27.400I will let the war room possibly decide for themselves whether they believe this was signaling quite overtly or just an innocent blunder.
00:22:37.740I tell you why, Steve, I think that that this was deliberately because it was actually there's a logic behind what he was saying.
00:22:46.240He said that if any negotiations to end the war were to take place between Russia and Ukraine,
00:22:52.140then they would have to take into account who controls what on the ground.
00:22:56.980Now, I don't see how you can walk that back because that is a pretty clear and logical argument to have when two countries are at war with one another.
00:23:05.840Who controls what at this present moment in time that peace negotiations are going to start and how are we going to go forward?
00:23:13.940So to then pivot away from that and say, oh, well, you know, that is all a misunderstanding.
00:23:20.260I don't really understand how that can happen.
00:23:22.020But principally, Steve, I would suggest that NATO has obtained quite a lot out of this war.
00:23:28.500You remember that French President Emmanuel Macron said in 2019, this is when I actually this is when I would date the present phase of this war.
00:23:37.840He said that NATO was brain dead and on life support.
00:23:42.840And I think that was the remark when he said that's really scared the Americans and thinking, hang on, we need to give NATO a fresh lease of life here because it is an institution without an existential purpose following the fall of the Berlin Wall.
00:23:58.140So we need to synthetically create a war so everyone can say, thank God, NATO has saved the day.
00:24:04.840And I think everyone is now basically saying how great NATO is and everyone within the globalist elites, of course, not in our sector of the press.
00:24:14.000So it's found its new purpose, protecting Eastern Europe.
00:24:18.720So really, from NATO's perspective, this is already mission accomplished.
00:24:23.780The question is, is that who's going to be paying for this as we go forward?
00:24:28.180But I think it's very interesting now that these statements are being made, not in for like the war room, but as high as the chief of staff to the secretary general of NATO.
00:24:39.800Now, the next story I'd quickly like to mention.
00:24:42.620But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:24:47.360This is this is basically what President Trump said when he when he months ago, he said, I can get these guys in a room and sell this in 48 hours.
00:24:56.980The outline, the implication, what he was talking about, he could get a negotiated settlement out, but people are going to have to be rational and reasonable.
00:25:04.640And the reality on the ground is going to be the reality on the ground, not these ideologues that are so maniacally anti-Russian, not just anti-Putin, they're anti the Russian people.
00:26:00.680They just announced in the early morning hours this morning, I think it was, that they're going into the front.
00:26:06.480Their strategic reserve is now going in as they continue to try to pierce through.
00:26:10.680So Zelensky, understanding he's got a problem with his underwriters, is trying to go all in and try to get as much movement on the battlefield as possible.
00:26:20.900They're throwing now elite Ukrainian troops into the churnal house and, you know, put all the furniture onto the fire to get the boiler going.
00:26:33.420So this is what you're seeing, Ben Harnwell.
00:26:37.720Firstly, they've got a personnel problem now in Ukraine about who's available to fight this war.
00:26:43.340Up until now, I mean, I don't want to be too cynical or pejorative for the Ukrainian war effort.
00:26:50.960But up until now, they've been taking civilians and putting them in military uniform, which is basically the equivalent of putting them in military costume.
00:38:55.520If we got 20 items that are existential, one is getting out of this war.
00:39:00.400There's plenty of others that you just mentioned.
00:39:02.080We need auditing the Fed, finding out what's going on in the central bank digital currency,
00:39:07.700whacking away this $2 trillion extra spending every year with $7 trillion budgets that's funding all the cronies and oligarchs across the world.
00:39:17.300These are not in the interest of the American people.
00:39:19.760The polling all shows it, but the people feel powerless because our representatives are not serving us.
00:39:30.400We need to get in touch with our representatives and start to say,
00:39:33.120now is the time to stand up for our self-preservation as a country against China.
00:39:38.260Your piece yesterday with D.C. Drano showing Sequoia Capitol and how we're still trying to milk every last nickel of profits against an enemy that's coming right after us.
00:40:05.460You guys have been doing some tremendous work about this entire fiasco of the Chinese Communist Party's financing and these companies that are now insolvent and what's going to happen and warning America not to bail them out.
00:40:19.700Well, good morning and thank you so much for having me.
00:40:22.260Remember years ago when Trump was in the White House and you and Mr. Maus Guo, the leader and founder of our movement, had been warning the American people that the CCP has already launched an economic warfare against the U.S.
00:40:35.760And that is using the U.S.-listed Chinese companies or the CCP companies to scam American people's pension fund, including the TSP, the Thrift Saving Plan.
00:40:46.980And years have already passed and now we're seeing the CCP is now claiming bankruptcy protection for one of its largest developer, Evergrande, for its $31 billion debt restructuring.
00:41:03.200And so that is the CCP's economy crisis building over to the U.S.
00:41:08.560And asking the American people and the entire international financial market to pay for the consequences.
00:41:15.860So you guys have been warning that the U.S. should cut off the ties with the CCP and stop the American people's public pension fund and TSP from funding the CCP's modernization of their PLA.
00:41:28.860And now, as we speak, the CCP is launching the military drill near Taiwan as a show of force to protest U.S. support for Taiwan.
00:41:39.240So this country is already in a big crisis economically, financially and diplomatically.
00:41:45.560And so I think that I have heard that people say, hey, Steve Bannon and Maus Guo are extremists.
00:41:55.240And I hope you were wrong, but everything that you guys have been warning years ago has become a sad reality.
00:42:03.480You know, I want to we're going to watch the bankruptcy court.
00:42:07.620I would like to see the bankruptcy court treat Evergrande, which is a front for the Chinese Communist Party money laundering, as they're treating Miles Guo in bankruptcy court.
00:42:17.400OK, Miles Guo in bankruptcy court, they took the side.
00:42:19.400The bankruptcy court in the United States took the side of the CCP and every aspect of it.
00:42:23.540Now, this shows you the rot in our court system.
00:42:26.580This shows you the rot in our there's no rule of law in this country.
00:43:11.720The global elites have worked hand in glove to steal as much money as possible from the peoples of the world, Lao Bai Jing and their American counterparts, the deplorables.
00:43:23.460And now when the crisis strike, they want to bail out and they're going to work a bailout.
00:43:29.320You watch between bankruptcy courts and what they're doing, the commerce secretary over there right now, the elites are working 24 seven of just like in 2008, had to bail themselves out again from all the lies.
00:43:42.520They're looking on a bailout in Ukraine.
00:43:44.360They're looking at a bailout in the Chinese capital markets all on your back, the back of you and your sons and daughters.
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00:45:57.060You know, the neoliberal neocons that are the Murdoch family, this week when they have the Keebler-Ls up there,
00:46:06.300because as commander-in-chief, you know, this is your chief magistrate, CEO of the government,
00:46:13.540and commander-in-chief of the armed forces, you have to make tough calls and you have to understand the world.
00:46:20.380You have a bunch of people running there that have no earthy idea about the world.
00:46:23.300In fact, their ideas are not just antiquated, they're dead wrong.
00:46:26.120You know, Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie over there with the bouquet of flowers, he's wandering around and rubbing up, he's writing a poem.
00:46:33.180He took a, he took what is a Van Halen song and wrote new lyrics.
00:46:36.500Can you think about that for a second?
00:46:43.700The reality of Ukraine is just one piece of a complex chessboard, geopolitical chessboard, that we have to be very, very, very careful about right now.
00:46:56.380We're slipping into a kinetic third world war.
00:46:58.960We're already at a third world war with the Chinese Communist Party after us.
00:47:02.020But these people are not, they have the, they have the understanding of a junior high school social room teacher.
00:47:10.940The cheerleading of Mickey Haley, oh, liberty and freedom and liberty and freedom and liberty and freedom.
00:47:18.460Talk to me about the liberty and freedom of the 70,000 or 70,000 that they're, that the New York Times and the Washington Post and CIA reporting.
00:47:27.000How, how big an undercount you think that is?
00:48:12.660So, Denver, if I might call on my third article, which is the Breitbart piece, which has the headline, Zelensky chastises citizens for dancing and drinking during the war.
00:48:25.420If you guys are able to put the videos of that in the background as I talk, that will give an illustration as to what this article is about.
00:48:33.000Basically, Steve, you know, and we thank you.
00:48:35.920We've been talking about how President Zelensky has a job now to convince the West to remain engaged in this elective war, this war of choice.
00:48:46.960Well, he doesn't only have a job to convince the West to continue supporting this war financially and militarily.
00:48:54.600He's got a job to convince his own citizens.
00:48:57.960Now, we did cite a poll last week that said 76.6% of Ukrainians hold Zelensky directly responsible, and that's a quote, directly responsible for corruption in the military and in the government.
00:49:11.560And 55% of the Ukrainians said that this war was inevitable and necessary.
00:49:17.940That means like a sizable minority, 45% believe that other solutions could be found.
00:49:26.160The situation is moving on a day-by-day basis.
00:49:28.780Ukrainians themselves, again, last week we had the pictures of the Ukrainians sending themselves on the beach at where, of all places, at Odessa.
00:49:40.760His country is also amongst the factors that are sliding away out of his orbit.
00:49:49.100And I think that's an illustration that we're constantly being asked to sacrifice more and more.
00:49:55.660Americans are going to be asked to stump up $24 billion to keep this war in movement, and his own people are out-parting.