House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is facing a growing number of threats from within his own ranks, including Matt Gaetz and other conservative members of Congress. What will it take to force him to vacate the speaker's chair? And what will it mean for the future of the Republican Party?
00:04:28.000Do you think that they would really do this, force McCarthy out?
00:04:32.000You know, I think I think you've put your finger on the issue, which is that this is a sort of nuclear option and it can only be used once.
00:04:39.000If they trigger the motion to vacate, you know, with this extremely narrow majority, Kevin McCarthy can't take anything for granted.
00:04:46.000And we've seen, you know, since those that first series of late night votes that eventually delivered him the speakership.
00:04:52.000He has been engaged in a real high wire act and he's managed to do it successfully.
00:04:57.000But for his detractors on the right, they have to know that if if if if you come at the king, you best not miss, as a wise man once said.
00:05:06.000Right. If they trigger this option and it doesn't work out, it looks like a paper tiger going forward.
00:05:12.000And and so it's it works better as a threat than in actual practice.
00:05:17.000And if it were to succeed, obviously, it would throw the entire house into chaos with really unpredictable consequences.
00:05:23.000So they're they're wielding this threat, hoping that that they will get McCarthy to go along with it.
00:05:29.000And it's not clear how he'll get himself out of this. This not just one jam, but several jams, as Mel laid out.
00:05:35.000Well, several jams. Right. Because so how tight is that needle that he has to thread or maybe the head of the needle that needs to be threaded exactly there,
00:05:41.000if I'm going to use the metaphor correctly. You know, there's the impeachment issue for for President Biden.
00:05:45.000But there's also this government shutdown looming in just a few weeks here.
00:05:51.000Does McCarthy really have any flexibility? He doesn't have a lot. Right.
00:05:57.000He has just a couple of votes to spare when he was able to get that deal to raise the debt ceiling earlier this year.
00:06:05.000It passed with more Democratic than Republican votes. And if he goes that route again, it's going to increase the the complaints on on his right wing who don't like to see him doing deals that way.
00:06:17.000But so far, he's managed to sort of outrun the problem. He's he's been able to push off until another day all of these these difficulties.
00:06:26.000And we may see him pull a rabbit out of a hat again. But as you said, you know, there's the September 30th government funding deadline.
00:06:32.000The Senate is increasingly in a bipartisan manner ganging up on the House to say, you know, we've done the work.
00:06:40.000You guys need to do your part here. And then there are several other must pass bills that he's going to have to deal with.
00:06:46.000And to be clear, he doesn't really have allies in the Senate.
00:06:49.000The Senate is going to get its version done with some Republican support.
00:06:53.000It seems very quickly a policy issue. The deficit estimates are coming in that the deficit for fiscal 23 is going to be twice what it was in fiscal 22.
00:07:01.000You know, two trillion dollars. How will that influence maybe not just what we see in Congress, but the campaign?
00:07:12.000Well, on the campaign, I think you already have all of the Republican candidates talking a lot about fiscal discipline.
00:07:20.000And I think it is giving ammunition to some of the House conservatives who have said that they want to trim spending by even more than was agreed upon in that debt ceiling bill.
00:07:29.000So this is a conversation we're going to hear more on as these negotiations are underway on Capitol Hill.
00:07:35.000On the other hand, as you just said, you know, the Senate has passed these funding bills in a bipartisan manner.
00:07:41.000So you have Republicans and Democrats in the Senate putting pressure on the House, putting pressure on the House Republican majority not to gum up the works and shut down the government.
00:07:51.000I want to ask you about House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
00:07:54.000So he says, quote, if we move forward with an impeachment inquiry, this is, of course, to President Biden, it would occur through a vote on the floor of the People's House and not through a declaration by one person.
00:08:06.000So Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz issuing a new threat yesterday.
00:08:09.000He says if McCarthy stands in the way of pursuing a Biden impeachment.
00:08:13.000And to be clear, I am talking about President Biden.
00:08:15.000Some Republicans, he says, may try to oust Kevin McCarthy.
00:08:20.000What is your reaction to Matt Gaetz comment here?
00:08:23.000Well, listen, Matt and I sit next to one another on House Judiciary.
00:08:29.000We work on the Select Committee on Weaponization.
00:08:32.000We've seen a lot of evidence that a lot of our colleagues in the House have not yet been able to go through because they're not on the committees of jurisdiction.
00:08:38.000I think what Kevin said and McCarthy said is that impeachment inquiry is the next natural step forward.
00:08:44.000And he's right, because here's the issue, Cheryl.
00:08:47.000We now have credible allegations and stacks of evidence now that are mounting to show that Joe Biden engaged in multiple bribery schemes.
00:08:56.000Now, we do not have a choice but to pursue that. Why?
00:08:59.000Because Article 2, Section 4 of the United States Constitution, that every member of the House took an oath to uphold and support,
00:09:05.000says very clearly that a president shall be impeached if he's engaged in bribery.
00:09:11.000It's the second cause listed. Treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:09:16.000We spent years debating what high crimes and misdemeanors are, but everybody knows what a bribe is.
00:09:20.000We do not have a choice because we took an oath to uphold the Constitution to follow this truth where it leads.
00:09:26.000The politics aside, we have to do our duty under the law, and that's what we're doing right now.
00:09:30.000And that's why I think you're going to see everybody come around a consensus on this as soon as we return to the Hill in a couple or next week.
00:09:38.000Okay, yeah, next week you're coming back. Don't forget to get on that airplane.
00:09:42.000My colleague Brian Brenberg is on set. He's got a question.
00:09:45.000Congressman, I'm hearing so often about impeachment inquiries and impeachments, and I know there's a distinction,
00:09:51.000but obviously there's a disagreement among Republicans in Congress about which one to pursue first.
00:09:58.000Does an inquiry inevitably lead to impeachment?
00:10:02.000Help people understand, like, what's the path if you go inquiry versus straight to impeachment?
00:10:07.000Yeah, it's a great question. The inquiry is the next natural step, as McCarthy said,
00:10:13.000because that's what allows Congress to have the advanced subpoena authority and investigatory authority.
00:10:20.000See, normally under a congressional investigation, everything that the House is doing is supposed to be related to a legislative purpose.
00:10:27.000Ultimately, there's a law that we want to pass or revise or something.
00:10:30.000Now we are engaged in this. The evidence is leading us towards impeachment, and the inquiry is the step to get us there.
00:10:36.000It will allow us to push through the blockade of these federal agencies that are withholding, for example, the pseudonym emails of the president and records about Hunter Biden flying around on Air Force Two when Joe Biden was vice president and engaging in these schemes with foreign oligarchs and adversarial nations.
00:10:54.000We need that information desperately. We need that information desperately, and this will be the next step.
00:10:58.000It's not inevitable that it leads to an impeachment.
00:11:00.000I have a personal belief that it will, but we have to follow that truth where it leads.
00:11:05.000If it exonerates Joe Biden, then it does. But again, that's a political calculation.
00:11:09.000Right now, what we're supposed to be engaged in is our lawful responsibility under the Constitution, and that's what we're trying to clarify here.
00:11:15.000Wednesday, 6 September, Year of our Lord 2023. We're going to get to all of that and even more.
00:11:23.000A lawsuit filed in Colorado, as we told you, was going to come to keep President Trump off the ballot.
00:11:30.000More explosive polling that shows President Trump is now full-spectrum dominant in the Republican primary and actually leading in the presidential race.
00:11:39.000Also, another bombshell lawsuit out of Arizona. We'll get into this, if not today, tomorrow morning.
00:11:46.000It looks like the mail-in ballot whole situation might be deemed illegal.
00:11:51.000So it's a lot going on. But right there, you see the hub of the matter.
00:13:13.000These are kind of like you put the pickets out in front of the troops as you start moving.
00:13:17.000And the pickets see and they start skirmishing.
00:13:19.000You see little skirmishes, little firefights.
00:13:22.000The two big elements in the House are obviously this horrible deal on the debt ceiling, which is left us now with all the lies set aside, $2 trillion in perpetuity of an unfinanceable deficit.
00:13:36.000$7 trillion in spending, $5 trillion of money coming in, huge drops in tax revenues, capital gains in income, corporate and income tax.
00:14:15.000Julie Kelly is going to talk to you about the real world we live in, not the make-believe world of the Ken Bucks of the world and the Mike Pence's of the world.
00:14:28.000Remember, if he had done his duty by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 in the United States Constitution, we would not be in this mess today.
00:14:38.000Julie Kelly joins us on the other side.
00:14:42.000A judge has stepped into the middle of this situation about the notification of parents when they try to allow your children to transition without your knowledge.
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00:16:49.940When we sit there and play those long cold opens and go through everything the mainstream media is now trying to become aware, and you see how almost infantile their analysis is versus what you know.
00:17:00.940On the impeachment issue, particularly on the budget shutdown, you're the driver of this.
00:17:06.940The reason these are issues is because of you, because the pressure you put on people over the August recess, because of your unending phone calls and emails, your engagement, using your agency.
00:17:17.940And it's only going to get more intense.
00:17:19.940And, of course, it's going to get back to – this morning we saw on Morning Joe they called you the uneducated, non-college educated, you know, people who breathe through their mouths.
00:17:29.940So expect a lot more of that, a lot more attacks.
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00:17:46.940You must get up to speed on the debt trap, on currency, on all of it, because this is the fight of our times.
00:17:53.940And it's going to get more intense before midnight on the 30th of September.
00:17:59.940Also ask the question why our Federal Reserve's doing a digital currency, why all the other central banks in the world are buying gold at record rates.
00:18:10.940When I say central banks, I mean of the global south.
00:18:12.940Why are they buying gold in 22 and 23 at record rates?
00:18:23.940Julie Kelly, thank you for joining us.
00:18:26.940Julie, you've dedicated your life, quite frankly, to what happened on January 6th and, you know, what happened leading up to it, what went on, and then the ramifications afterwards.
00:18:37.940When you hear Mike Pence give this speech today on the siren song of populism, he says, because conservatives believe in this ordered universe where you have the Constitution, the four branches of government.
00:18:48.940Given your lived experience, what planet is he living on, ma'am?
00:19:00.940I mean, I actually wrote an article on my Substack, I think it was a week or so ago, talking about the lies that Mike Pence told about his role in January 6th and what he did on that day.
00:19:11.940What he says in his book is totally inconsistent with the sworn testimony of Mark Short, his chief of staff, and Greg Jacob, his general counsel.
00:19:19.940I mean, he made it sound like he swooped in single-handedly, wrote this statement, had all these advisors say what happened, et cetera, et cetera, and, I mean, it just simply isn't true.
00:19:31.440So there's something really sinister about that man, and no wonder, as you said, he's got no traction in the Republican Party, but he's playing some role, and I can't quite figure out what it is.
00:20:17.400I think it was to a petition led by some members of the Colorado Republican Party who are trying to get some response from their elected representatives about what's happening to January 6th defendants.
00:20:29.400I'm trying to get a copy of the letter that was sent to Ken Buck, but his response was not only pretty smug in terms of how you're communicating with your own constituents and your own party representatives in your state, but it was factually wrong on a number of occasions.
00:20:47.400What he did in that letter, Ken Buck, who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, by the way, was give a big imprimatur, a big green light, a big pat on the back to Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, and Matthew Graves' Department of Justice for their abusive selective prosecution of January 6th defendants.
00:21:06.400I mean, he doesn't even have his facts right outside of the point he made, that people have not been held in pretrial detention on misdemeanors.
00:21:17.040But they certainly have been held on nonviolent offenses like obstruction and conspiracy and seditious conspiracy.
00:21:24.620And we have tons of proof that they have not been treated equally under the law.
00:21:31.300And the idea that this DOJ and federal judges have not violated the 1A, 4A, 5A, 6A rights of these defendants is outlandish.
00:21:40.340He doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:21:42.400But I'll tell you what the tip-off was, Steve.
00:21:44.260What did he used to be before he was the congressman?
00:21:47.360He was a federal prosecutor for 25 years.
00:21:50.620These guys are so blinded, they can't even see what's happening.
00:21:53.860And they're a former Department of Justice and call them to account and criticize them for really a dangerous escalation of their abuse of power in this war on terror against Americans on the political right.
00:22:06.440Shame on Ken Buck and shame on whoever his staffers were that contributed to that letter.
00:22:10.960Because they certainly didn't reach out to any experts, I guess you could say, like someone like me who would be able to, you know, debunk all of the claims that they made in that letter.
00:22:25.920We saw there's some additional sentencing yesterday.
00:22:29.460Just give us a snapshot on where we stand in this entire process.
00:22:33.180Well, what's happening is you have judges like Tim Kelly, a Trump-appointed judge,
00:22:36.500and Ahmet Mehta, an Obama-appointed judge sitting on the D.C. District Court,
00:22:40.240who are now fashioning new federal crimes of terror.
00:22:43.980And they're not crimes like blowing up a government building or targeting a military installation or shooting down a jet airliner or preparing, you know, to execute an event with mass casualties.
00:22:56.780What these two judges have done, Steve, very dangerously is set aside crimes like obstruction of an official proceeding, seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct,
00:23:06.780and shaking a temporary metal fence, yes, this is true, as now crimes of terrorism that can land you in jail for years in prison in addition to the original convictions.
00:23:21.000That is what Tim Kelly has done in the Proud Boys case.
00:23:23.600It's what Ahmet Mehta has done in the Oath Keeper's case.
00:23:26.680Republicans, as usual, are totally asleep at the switch.
00:23:29.520They don't realize the dangerous precedent that these two judges, with DOJ's suggestion, are doing.
00:23:37.840And so this is a big escalation, as I just said, in establishing new laws that not only will be applied in Washington, D.C., but any federal jurisdiction.
00:23:49.140Any political protest on federal property, and I assume this will someday extend to state property,
00:23:54.460that gets out of hand or interrupts a government proceeding, now can be considered an act of terrorism.
00:24:02.480Think about the ramifications of that.
00:24:05.240And so that's what's been happening at the D.C. Courthouse for the last several weeks,
00:24:09.020as they continue to arrest and charge individuals really every single day.
00:27:22.900That would be the only calculation is to keep that March 4, 2024 trial date.
00:27:27.540But I'll tell you one other quick that I'm going to be reporting on.
00:27:30.260This obstruction of an official proceeding, 1512 C2, that he brought against Trump is headed towards the Supreme Court.
00:27:36.940If the court decides next month and there are cert petitions pending, if they decide to take that up and its relevancy to January 6,
00:27:45.060that's going to be a huge blow to Jack Smith because there's a chance that that could be overturned shortly after any sort of conviction or sentencing.
00:27:53.420It's a big risk for Jack Smith to only hold on to these four counts, three, conspiracy, and the obstruction because there's a good chance that the Supreme Court could do something different than what DOJ has been doing with that statute.
00:28:24.300Thank you for being here to rebut both Judas Pence and Ken Buck.
00:28:29.260By the way, I think we're going to get Julie back on to do the deep dive on the Pence situation.
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00:32:11.420He did say something very interesting.
00:32:13.400He said he didn't read all the documents, yet he still made a judgment.
00:32:16.580So I'm hopeful that, you know, they expedited the court case to October 13th.
00:32:24.520And I'm hopeful during that time he will have an opportunity to read all the documents and make a good judgment on behalf of the parents to be involved.
00:32:34.260But this is a TRO that you guys got to stand down.
00:32:45.740We actually already implemented this policy, and we've had about, I want to say, anywhere from 13 to 15 students that we had to notify the parents, and we had great outcomes.
00:32:54.940So we have support showing that this notification policy is actually really good for children already.
00:33:01.820So, I mean, I'm really hopeful for the October 13th, but we're going to stand our ground.
00:33:08.040They could throw all these different ploys at us.
00:33:11.560He talks about how he wants to go to Supreme Court.
00:33:13.740We're – I'm confident in Supreme Court is where we're going to win this because they're trying to make new law for children to have privacy.
00:33:20.840And we all know parents have the constitutional rights.
00:33:35.600That – what happens with our notification policy, they have to say they want to come out to their peers and their teacher to be called something else.
00:33:43.280So we did have about 13 cases of those notification policies taken in effect because children wanted to be called something opposite from what they were born as.
00:33:53.660Well, Karen, England from the Parenting Rights Organization, put this in context.
00:34:13.980We have two more school districts that are going to pass this policy.
00:34:17.740So the state is going to have to declare war on every single school district that is trying to stand for parental rights.
00:34:24.480And they seem hell-bent on doing that.
00:34:26.960But we're going to continue to encourage school boards that this is a line in the sand, that we are going to eventually win this,
00:34:34.040and that what happened today, again, for him not to have read the documents before he ruled is frightening.
00:34:40.980And I will say legal counsel for the district was good, but they're traditional school district legal counsel.
00:34:48.760And so we're going to have to bring in some heavy hitters that are going to really hone in on the Constitution and parents' constitutional rights
00:34:56.900and not the state law they think might apply.