Joe Biden deserves impeachment for using the vice presidency as an ATM machine for virtually his entire family, we all know it. We demand real oversight against this weaponized government. Just look at the bribery. If tens of millions of dollars flowing from foreign corrupt people into the bank accounts of the Biden family wasn t enough for impeachment, why were we even looking?
00:00:06.800If tens of millions of dollars flowing from foreign corrupt people into the bank accounts of the Biden family wasn't enough for actual impeachment, why were we even looking?
00:00:18.060Joe Biden deserves impeachment for converting the vice presidency into an ATM machine for virtually his entire family.
00:00:44.060Now, I will concede that the votes I have called for will likely fail.
00:00:48.240Term limits, balanced budgets, maybe even impeachment.
00:00:51.100I am prepared for that eventuality because at least if we take votes, the American people get to see who's fighting for them and who's willing to tolerate more corruption and business as usual.
00:01:02.620Mr. Speaker, dust off our written January agreement.
00:01:56.580I think that it is it is an illusion of Washington that you can't put anything on the floor that's not going to pass.
00:02:02.820I actually think that our representative republic would be more vibrant if we had more votes that were not always just predetermined.
00:02:10.460Right. And so if we put an impeachment inquiry on the floor and it didn't pass, well, then the people who didn't vote for it would have to be responsive to their voters.
00:02:18.360That's the way this whole thing works.
00:02:19.800And while Ken Buck and I have strong disagreement on the quality of the evidence against Joe Biden, it's interesting to note he is one of my strongest allies on the spending matter.
00:02:32.000It shows that the issues aren't particularly linked.
00:02:34.280As to the quality of the evidence, though, I just have to say, I mean, we do have bank records, devices, laptops, travel records, changes in administration policy.
00:02:42.120Seems like pretty strong evidence to me.
00:02:43.620None of which links President Biden to.
00:03:43.900I think that we need that's why we need to have the votes and have the debates and have the hearings.
00:03:47.940And again, they represent their constituents just like I represent mine.
00:03:51.700Even in my remarks on the floor today, I disclaim and acknowledge all that you're saying.
00:03:55.940But when we just bundle it up and act as if this Biden family corruption isn't happening and we're not going to do anything about it.
00:04:01.880Well, then Americans of all stripes start to lose faith in the oversight capabilities of the Congress.
00:04:06.800And really in the impeachment power that gives us the requisite checks and balances that are necessary.
00:04:12.280Well, look, I mean, there are a lot of members who worry and Republicans who worry that by starting an impeachment inquiry to try to find evidence that you probably should have before you start the inquiry, you cheapen the process.
00:04:27.860Chris Christie said something very similar this week.
00:04:30.000Oh, well, Chris Christie. Gosh, I I stopped taking advice from him when he was when he was recommending Christopher Wray for jobs.
00:04:39.060But on the substance, on the substance. Look, you want to talk about how long we've had the evidence.
00:04:43.580The FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop since 2019.
00:04:47.020So this inquiry isn't just going to be into the Bidens and the bad things they've done.
00:04:51.060It's also going to be in the cover up. And we do have that evidence.
00:04:57.080Today, I was asking questions about the role of the foreign interference task force to go and designate any derogatory information about the Bidens as foreign disinformation when that was part of the cover up.
00:05:08.520Let me let me let me let me just move on here, because I'm going to reiterate to the audience because we need to be clear.
00:05:14.700There is not evidence linking President Biden to anything illegal having to do with Hunter Biden.
00:05:20.980However, I want to ask you about what Congresswoman, but it's business dealings.
00:05:25.320That's a key. Hold on. Let me ask you. Let me. No, no, no.
00:05:28.600It's about I'm just there's no evidence linking President Biden to anything illegal that you are alleging that Hunter Biden did.
00:05:38.520Well, getting getting the Ukrainian prosecutors fired, I think, was pretty wrong.
00:05:42.000Congresswoman Nancy Mace says that you and other, you know, MAGA members of the Congress are bullying moderates.
00:05:49.720She considers herself to be a moderate in effect by putting a lot of seats, Republican held seats in jeopardy next year.
00:05:57.820Are you concerned about that as you plot the strategy of having countless votes on things that you have just acknowledged in this interview?
00:06:05.700You don't have the votes for. Yeah, I think we should have countless votes, even if we lose.
00:06:10.220And I don't think that's legislative bullying. I think that's legislating.
00:06:14.180I actually think that that's what can sand off some of the rough edges of the policy and procedural choices that we have to make to run the country.
00:06:21.620So if there are members of Congress who think that taking tough votes is bullying, I guess they shouldn't have run for the position.
00:06:29.520And, you know, here. Yeah, there are going to be some people who are going to be in a tough spot, but their constituents deserve to know where they are.
00:06:35.080And frankly, I just think that that comes with being a member of the United States Congress.
00:06:40.080What is the polling show us about how Americans feel about what McCarthy's now launched?
00:06:44.400Yeah. So, you know, why is Kevin McCarthy doing what he's doing?
00:06:47.680It's because he's feeling a lot of pressure from Republican congressmen and the Republican base.
00:06:52.120So let's start off with the polling. All right. Republican voters who think Joe Biden did something illegal regarding his son's business dealings.
00:06:58.100This number tells you basically everything that you need to know.
00:07:01.680The vast majority of Republican voters nationwide believe that Joe Biden did something illegal regarding Hunter Biden's business dealings.
00:07:09.180And they're putting a lot of pressure on their own congressmen.
00:07:11.800Of course, Kevin McCarthy has a bit of a math problem going on here. Right.
00:07:15.660Because he has a five seat majority. So basically, you know, five Republicans go against him.
00:07:20.100That could be big trouble for him. And remember, there were 20 Republicans who voted against Kevin McCarthy for speaker.
00:07:25.840Those are on the right. Those are pressuring him to launch this impeachment inquiry.
00:07:29.920And then, of course, there's the 18 Republicans who represent districts that Joe Biden won in 2020.
00:07:35.140So he's feeling this tug from the right, pushing him towards this impeachment inquiry.
00:07:38.560And then he's feeling that tug from the middle, basically saying, no, we don't want to go there.
00:07:42.640It's a really hard math problem for Kevin McCarthy.
00:07:44.740What about Americans overall outside of just Republicans, Democrats, independents?
00:07:50.500I think there's this idea that a lot of Republicans believe, hey, Donald Trump's in trouble.
00:07:54.620Well, so let's put Joe Biden in trouble, too. But Americans don't see it this way.
00:07:58.720So voters overall who think they did something illegal overall, just 38 percent of Americans believe that Joe Biden did something illegal with regards to his son's business dealings.
00:08:07.360Take a look here, though. Fifty three percent of Americans believe that Donald Trump did something illegal trying to overturn the 2020 election.
00:08:14.840So Americans overall do not see these two things equally.
00:08:18.140Now, you mentioned independents. Yeah, I think there are a lot of Democrats who are sort of salivating at the idea of being able to do something on this because independents do not like Joe Biden.
00:08:29.040Sixty six percent of them hold an unfavorable view of him.
00:08:32.520But get this, just 34 percent of them think he did something illegal.
00:08:37.040So I think there are a lot of Democrats who are looking at these numbers and basically saying, hey, Republicans are going to go a bridge too far here.
00:08:44.200And maybe we're going to be able to turn this around on its head and basically be like, you know what?
00:08:48.980Bring this forward because this is a fight that they want to have.
00:08:51.720It's something they think could help Joe Biden, especially going into 2024.
00:08:55.220Wilford Brimsley at the end of absence of malice.
00:11:18.660We're going to start with Congressman Ben Klein from Virginia 6.
00:11:22.320Congressman Klein, you're now in the middle of the firestorm.
00:11:25.700Put in perspective, the big thing is the budget, is the appropriations, everything with McCarthy.
00:11:32.080But do you believe with Matt Gaetz that Chairman McCarthy must come into immediate and total compliance with what he committed to you guys back in January, sir?
00:11:40.840Boy, I agree with Matt Gaetz that this impeachment inquiry is a baby step, but it's a step in the right direction.
00:11:47.460McCarthy really had no choice because the evidence is overwhelming.
00:11:50.860We have investigations going on in judiciary, in oversight, in ways and means.
00:11:56.460We are not where we were one year ago when Joe Biden said, I had no contact with Hunter Biden's business associates, never was involved.
00:12:03.860The evidence that's been coming out over the last year plus has been significant, to say the least.
00:12:10.840And so it's a responsible step to take that impeachment inquiry to the next level, to be able to have that authority to get the information we need.
00:12:21.240Because, quite frankly, the Biden administration, the Obama archives, it's all been stonewall after stonewall after stonewall, not complying.
00:12:29.420And so to get that compliance, to get the bank records that are necessary, we have some bank records, we need more bank records to establish how much Biden was paid, when he was paid, in relation to the Ukrainian prosecutor being fired.
00:12:44.200All of these questions that are being asked will be laid out for the American people, and then judiciary will follow the facts where they lead in a formal impeachment process if that's necessary.
00:12:54.900You saw the two-thirds, 66% of independents had enough of Biden already, but the number about did he do anything wrong, the 34% they quote, and then the 38%, 38% of the American people, 34%.
00:13:07.580Is it your belief, given what you know now, that as that evidence gets out into the mainstream, and they've already sent, White House already sent a letter to CNN and MSNBC today, said, we don't want you to show any of it.
00:13:18.320Do you believe that the American people will have an awakening also on the criminality of the Bidens?
00:13:22.860Absolutely. The more that my constituents learn about what Hunter Biden has been engaged in, what Joe Biden has been engaged in, the texts that are coming out, Hunter Biden saying, I have to give half my salary to Pops.
00:13:38.600Well, it's not a big guy. There's no question about who Pops is.
00:13:44.880So we have to get to the bottom of these issues, and the more that they come out, the more the American population is going to change their tune when it comes to what Joe Biden did and whether or not it was criminal and a high crime or misdemeanor.
00:14:02.180Right before we go, because I want to hold you through the break, I've got a couple more questions on this side, but real quickly, you believe, and you believe in representing your constituents, all your constituents, that this is a reasonable and necessary step, sir?
00:14:17.500It is. An impeachment inquiry is not impeachment. It is simply making sure that we have the powers in Congress to get the information, to get the evidence necessary to decide where to go next.
00:14:29.580And we will follow the facts where they lead on the Judiciary Committee, but this is a prudent step forward.
00:14:36.980Congressman, just hang on for one second. I'm going to take a short break. I want to ask you about this, the Clean CR, the appropriations process, all of it.
00:14:46.140It is Wednesday, 13 September in the year of our Lord, 2023. You're in the war room.
00:14:52.600We're going to return with Congressman Ben Klein from the Commonwealth of Virginia next.
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00:30:49.900I want to tap into your expertise, though, because you write a column that is, you know, extremely,
00:30:56.020I think, in a way, it's a very, very strong message for you, David Ignatius, to write this column.
00:31:05.340And you have spent much of your career spending time writing about or writing with the greatest strategic thinkers of our time on world affairs, on foreign policy.
00:31:19.180And when you look at what Joe Biden has done with NATO and the war in Ukraine and in terms of galvanizing, putting this country back on a track to lead on the world stage,
00:31:32.220who would be an alternative right now who could do that on day one, a legitimate one?
00:31:38.340So, Mika, I can't name you that person.
00:31:42.720The thing about the democratic process is that it yields answers to questions like that through this amazing phenomenon I still believe in.
00:31:54.100I believe that open discussion, that nominating campaigns produce clarity, produce candidates, produce leaders.
00:32:04.740I couldn't agree more that Biden has been a strong leader in foreign policy and in domestic policy, as I wrote in the column.
00:32:11.320He has passed some of the most significant domestic social legislation in decades.
00:32:16.560In foreign policy, one of the things that I admire most about Biden is that he's gathered a team around him of very solid people.
00:32:41.700But the process itself is going to lead to tremendous results because you're going to put in front of the American people the bribery case of taking money from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:33:42.760This means they're not going to get the air cover they need.
00:33:45.760Why do you think today or last night they sent a blistering letter from the White House to MSNBC and CNN and Fox and all these saying,
00:33:52.460you've got to start covering, you've really got to start challenging and covering the impeachment of all this false information that far right wing media is putting out there.
00:34:01.740Remember, this has got no play whatsoever in the mainstream media at all.
00:34:08.180It's going to go much higher because the crimes and the bribery particularly from Ukraine and specifically the Chinese Communist Party is so in your grill.
00:34:16.700David Ignatius, now, if we have it, I hope, I got it to Denver late.
00:34:22.380The team in Denver, my own producing team, actually we junked the entire show we were going to do and rebuilt the show just hours before the broadcast this morning
00:34:30.360because of developments overnight and early this morning.
00:34:33.860But if you see Politico this morning, and I have not seen this in a long time,
00:34:38.380they actually had a big picture of Gavin Newsom, four articles, four articles all about Gavin Newsom,
00:34:45.360what Gavin Newsom's thinking, Gavin Newsom, all this Politico, already, already ready to roll.
00:34:51.300If Denver, do we have that? Can they put that up? They don't have it yet.
00:34:54.680Terrific. Just tell me when you got it and I'll call for it again.
00:34:56.900But my point is the wheels are in motion.
00:35:01.140Biden is not going to have the air cover that like Clinton had when Clinton had to go through,
00:49:16.500But, Clark, I've got three or four minutes here.
00:49:18.360I want you to go back and make the case of both aspects of this, of why, from a constitutional perspective, this is –
00:49:25.240I just want the audience to understand, this is completely and totally phony, right?
00:49:29.440We're going to get to why it's such a big deal in a second.
00:49:31.640But I just want you to go back and walk out – take two or three minutes and walk us through both aspects of why this is completely phony.
00:49:42.480So, look, you had your alliteration of de-woke, de-weaponize.
00:49:47.680Add de-fang the massive lawfare against President Trump, and that's what we're trying to do here.
00:49:52.220Let me do a little war room law school class about the first part of the argument, which I didn't get to yesterday, about the text and structure of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
00:50:01.720If they could put it up on screen, Steve, you'll see that it starts, right?
00:50:05.220It says nobody shall be a senator, a representative, an elector for president of the – of the president or vice president or hold any, you know, general, civil or military office or under a state, right?
00:50:28.000And, you know, it's particularly glaring, right, to see that they reference the electors for the president and vice president, but they don't reference the president or the vice president themselves.
00:50:37.960This provision of the Constitution doesn't even apply to try to block President Trump or whomever he chooses as his vice presidential candidate.
00:50:45.080And that's just the basic textual and structural analysis.
00:50:53.780Also, yesterday, give me the piece yesterday.
00:50:55.980I want to get both pieces combined to show that this is totally phony.
00:50:58.660Yes, and there are other pieces to the first part, like Section 5 of the 14th Amendment and the fact that this is a political question and the fact that no one could show standing.
00:51:09.940But let me put those to the side for a second just to do the recap of yesterday.
00:51:12.740So yesterday I talked about the fact that the president was acquitted of the one article of impeachment they brought against him in the second impeachment of violating Section 3.
00:51:26.040And that failed the impeachment standard, the two-third trial standard in the Senate of the United States by about 10 votes.
00:51:34.240And given that, that is a nationwide determination that is preclusive and bars any attempt to do anything different.
00:51:41.460And then, you know, Steve, as I explained yesterday, the framers set up a trial-like process for a reason.
00:51:47.560They made it that the chief justice of the United States would have to preside because it was a trial and it evokes what we learned from our, you know, British history, which is that the House of Lords actually conducts cases.
00:52:01.160So that is preclusive. That is the final word.
00:52:04.920The whole idea that there was an insurrection that President Trump participated in or that he gave aid and comfort to, that was all rejected in the failed second impeachment.
00:52:13.860And that is also independently preclusive of this wacky argument.
00:52:19.020Kay Clark, I need you to hang around. Ren, I need you to hang around. We're going to go to break.
00:52:23.220I got Laura Logan on the other side. A major new multi-part film on J6 that she is hosting and interviewed in is going to break.
00:52:32.120We got so much. We're going to go to New Mexico. There's a big case out in California today about transitioning kids that parents don't have, don't have control over.
00:52:40.340It is jam-packed in the second hour, but we've got to stay on this issue about the 14th Amendment.
00:52:46.600Billy Joe Shaver is going to take us out. Get thee behind me, Satan.
00:52:52.060Pretty tall right now, brother. Back in a moment in the world.