Bannon's War Room - Episode 3046： The Fight Continues To Block CR

00:00:00.000 in the sense that I don't understand why anybody votes against bringing the idea and having the

00:00:05.300 debate. And then you've got all the amendments if you don't like the bill. This is a whole new

00:00:09.440 concept of individuals that just want to burn the whole place down. It doesn't work.

00:00:14.180 Everything stands. So as of right now, GOP leaders have decided to send members home

00:00:18.820 for the rest of the weeks after a tumultuous few days here in the House. They initially had planned

00:00:23.640 to put a short-term funding bill on the floor on Saturday after they included a number of

00:00:28.280 conservative priorities to try to win over hardline critics. But that was not enough. So now

00:00:33.160 it's back to the drawing board. And we're told the new strategy is going to be focusing on individual

00:00:37.580 spending bills. They're long-term spending bills. But the problem there is that they would need to

00:00:42.520 pass 11 individual spending bills within the next nine days or so in order to avoid a government

00:00:48.060 shutdown. And those bills would be dead on arrival in the Senate. And so it is looking increasingly

00:00:53.320 likely that there is going to be a government shutdown. We've been following a developing

00:00:56.800 situation at the U.S. border with Mexico, where we are seeing a surge in migrants.

00:01:01.680 Here in the last 24 hours, there were 8,600 border arrests. Now President Biden is sending another

00:01:08.100 800 troops to the border. We have CNN's Ed Lavandera in Eagle Pass, Texas, which just declared a state of

00:01:15.140 emergency due to this surge. Ed, tell us about this surge. Why are we seeing this sudden rise in new

00:01:22.240 arrivals? Well, we've had a chance over the last few days working along the U.S.-Mexico border from

00:01:30.640 El Paso here to Eagle Pass, where we're at. And we've spoken with many migrants. And the overall

00:01:35.700 theme that we've heard from them as to why all of a sudden they're crossing in these kinds of numbers

00:01:41.520 in between ports of entry, which essentially hits them as an illegal entry and can cause problems for

00:01:47.600 them as they move through the immigration process in the U.S. But many of them say they're just simply

00:01:52.440 desperate, that they're coming from countries, dictatorships like Venezuela, and it is just 0.95

00:01:57.860 unsafe for them and that they've been traveling for months to reach the U.S.-Mexico border. Many of

00:02:02.840 them, Brianna, also tell us they've been waiting to travel and enter into the U.S. through this program

00:02:09.000 that was set up called the CBP1 app, where essentially you request a meeting, you wait your turn,

00:02:14.200 and then you cross when you get that appointment. But many people say they're just simply tired of

00:02:18.740 waiting, that they've been waiting for months to get those appointments. And that's perhaps one of

00:02:23.280 the reasons why we're seeing this massive influx of immigrants and migrants crossing into the U.S.

00:02:28.880 illegally. Here in Eagle Pass, we've seen hundreds and hundreds throughout the day. It might be a

00:02:34.100 little bit hard to make out because many of them are now held in, are in custody now underneath this

00:02:39.280 bridge. But in the shadow, you have hundreds of migrants who are waiting to be processed.

00:02:42.720 We're told some will be processed and charged with trespassing from the state, from state

00:02:47.600 authorities, and others will be processed by Border Patrol. Brianna.

00:02:50.940 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll be briefly yield my time since I'm kind of wasting my time here. I'll

00:02:57.920 be honest with you. Secretary Mayorkas, do you take full responsibility for all decisions of action

00:03:06.180 or inaction made at your agency? Do you personally take full responsibility for all of the decisions

00:03:13.840 made at your agency? I'm the secretary of the department. So it means yes. I bear ultimate

00:03:18.960 responsibility for the decisions made. Yes. Yes. Okay. So you mentioned earlier that in your

00:03:26.060 definition, you have operational control of the border. Can you define what you mean by that?

00:03:31.200 What we mean, because under the Secure Fence Act, it means that not a single individual would cross

00:03:38.940 the border. And under that definition, no administration has had operational control.

00:03:43.880 So what number do you have? 5,010,000 if less than 5 or 10 or less than a couple hundred thousand get

00:03:49.460 away or more? I mean, what is your definition? What we do, Congresswoman, is we have a number.

00:03:54.360 What we do is we look at the resources that we have available to us and ask ourselves, are we

00:04:01.120 deploying those resources to achieve the most effective results for the American people? That

00:04:06.940 is what we do. And we are hopeful working with you and other members of this committee to increase

00:04:13.080 the funding for the Department of Homeland Security. So it's so funny. We hear funding, we're funding,

00:04:17.060 funding, but I've been at the border and you've been at the border too. How would you grade your job

00:04:21.100 on a scale of 0 to 10? How would you grade yourself?

00:04:25.040 Congresswoman, I am immensely proud to work. How would you grade yourself?

00:04:29.680 Congresswoman, I am immensely proud to work with the men and women of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:04:33.400 No, yourself, your job, not all of the women. I'm sure there are a lot of great men and women

00:04:38.200 in your department. How would you rate your job as the head of your agency?

00:04:43.040 It is the honor of my life. From 0 to 10, so you cannot grade it. How would you grade your

00:04:47.740 preparedness to this committee meeting on a scale from 0 to 10? We ask information,

00:04:52.420 you always promise this letter. I'm not wasting my time. I'm sorry, I don't want to use a bad

00:04:56.600 word, but you can do with all these letters because we keep giving money and sending letters

00:05:00.540 and you tell us BS back. So how would you rate yourself your preparedness to this committee?

00:05:06.080 It is the honor of my lifetime to work with the men and women.

00:05:08.680 From scale 0 to 10, how would you say how you prepared you came to this hearing?

00:05:12.760 I will repeat what I said.

00:05:15.560 So you're not answering any questions. You are not answering any Republican question. Is it

00:05:19.820 something that you intend to not respond to any questions of Republicans? You came with that

00:05:25.240 intent.

00:05:26.280 That is incorrect, Congresswoman.

00:05:27.720 So you're not answering any questions.

00:05:29.520 It is.

00:05:29.820 I mean, every time I hear you say, we will, we will, we shall. Yeah, I don't know. You don't,

00:05:33.700 you don't know any numbers. You don't even know how many people you actually, you know,

00:05:38.340 you, you were prosecuted, how many people you deported, you're nothing. How can you say

00:05:43.000 you know how your department is run as executive? You don't know these numbers?

00:05:49.000 Congresswoman, let me share with you.

00:05:51.160 Well, you haven't shared anything useful here.

00:05:53.140 Let me share with you.

00:05:53.720 I'm sorry. I to tell you, I'll yield to Chairman Jordan because I'm not going to be wasting

00:05:57.320 your time with this charade and circus. You do not have an intent to do that. And it

00:06:02.200 is a serious national security issue. This border and cartels are stronger. A lot of

00:06:07.920 money NGOs are making who knows what and probably a lot of corruption over there. And we have a

00:06:13.180 national security crisis. And you sit in here and saying, you know, looking at us with very

00:06:17.520 smiley face. It's unacceptable. But I yield to Chairman Jordan.

00:06:23.160 Thursday, 21 September, the year of our Lord, 2023 on in the nation's capital. Kevin McCarthy's

00:06:29.720 reign as speaker is coming unglued. And the reason if you get down to it, it's just the games,

00:06:34.580 the games, the games, the games. You saw yesterday we did the special where we did the 21 minute

00:06:40.040 open with with Merrick Garland getting grilled and we ended with Congressman Victoria Sparks.

00:06:47.120 I wanted to play that from a couple of weeks ago because the invasion of the southern border

00:06:50.420 only gets worse. Eagle Pass, Texas. The mayor has declared a state of emergency. As you saw

00:06:55.620 right there for those our TV and live stream viewers, the chyron at CNN said the 2,500 National

00:07:03.220 Guard troops have been called up are not for enforcement. They're simply there to act as

00:07:08.300 concierge to help the illegal aliens through. Congressman Victoria Sparks, first off, I 0.52

00:07:13.720 want to just go to the developments today. You're one of the people that have demanded

00:07:18.180 accountability. You don't you're tired of playing games. You want to get to the basics

00:07:22.540 of these of these appropriations bills to get the woken weaponized out to cut the spending.

00:07:28.460 Just give us your assessment of where we stand. A pretty historic that I think Kevin McCarthy

00:07:33.000 sent you guys home today. Well, thank you so much. Thank you, Steve, for doing that and

00:07:38.700 informing American people. Unfortunately, the American people have been lied by Congress and

00:07:43.720 politicians for too long. And it's sad for me to see. But you know what? American people

00:07:48.580 are not stupid. And actually, we underestimate American people are frustrated and a lot of them 0.98

00:07:56.500 frustrated. But I'll be honest with you. Leadership takes courage and takes actions. And you know,

00:08:03.200 when you deal as a leader, you have to deliver results. We can do a lot of talk. We can make

00:08:09.060 a lot of grandiose statements and fight China on Fox News. But in reality, it doesn't matter.

00:08:15.200 Writing books, making statements and messaging bill doesn't make a difference for Americans.

00:08:20.160 And Americans in our country facing some serious national security crisis is an issue. So I used

00:08:26.400 to say, Kevin, pick three hills to die and it will take them. Now I actually say, pick one. Pick one and

00:08:32.600 let's deliver it for the American people. And it's sad for me that we are right now because we didn't

00:08:38.780 want to work hard and actually deliver it because it's hard. It's too much work. You know, and I am one of

00:08:45.540 the few people willing to give, you know, another chance to Kevin if we fight for the border, if we

00:08:52.240 fight to deal with our debt. But there are some people that very dig down. You know, he put himself

00:08:57.600 in difficult situations. Some people cannot believe and not agree not to pass the appropriation. I

00:09:03.680 personally fought with Kevin to have that rule done. And now we are a few days left and we didn't

00:09:09.960 pass the appropriation bill. So I told him you have to talk to them and now figure out how you can get

00:09:14.920 them on board. But it's becoming tougher and tougher now.

00:09:20.080 Congressman, I think here's the audience is is is confused. And, you know, we're this is a MAGA

00:09:25.980 activist audience, as I know you're aware. When the deal was cut and look, we didn't like the deal.

00:09:31.400 But when the deal was cut, there was this there was an agreement on the appropriations bills that each

00:09:36.080 individual committee would work through. There'd be regular order. We would get the cuts in that and

00:09:40.380 also get the woke and weaponized, if not out, at least identified. And then McCarthy sent everybody

00:09:48.180 home for six weeks. Do you believe was this always a plan of McCarthy to come back and just have a

00:09:53.520 crisis because they didn't want to actually have you as a as you know, these committee members

00:09:59.640 actually get in and start talking about what had to be cut out of the budget to make sure that we get

00:10:04.480 some some sort of sanity on the on the physical spending? I think I'll be honest with me. I don't

00:10:11.140 think, unfortunately, a leadership of our part and listen, Kevin is not cause of it. You know,

00:10:16.640 he is a symptom of the system, Washington, D.C. It's not personal at all. The challenges, you know,

00:10:22.800 a lot of people like him and a lot of many others that some people might think even like, but, you know,

00:10:27.880 they don't know much about them. In reality, I mean, the last job he had when he had the internship in

00:10:32.640 college. He doesn't live in the reality, hasn't lived for years, non-reality of American people.

00:10:37.500 A lot of these people live in D.C. They don't even go on the district except cutting a ribbon.

00:10:41.360 Actually, the time in August is really, you know, the time when you have to spend in constituency.

00:10:45.940 But we had times in January to deal with these bills. And we had an agreement to start with 22

00:10:52.820 numbers. 23 numbers were like so inflated. They put so much junk. So he had the agreement with

00:10:58.420 conservatives in a good phase to start with 22 numbers. Well, they didn't start. And he can blame

00:11:04.360 committee chairs and he can blame all other people in leadership. In reality, as a leader

00:11:09.880 who elected to this people, he has six votes on select committee, on the steering committee to

00:11:16.820 elect people. And they pretty much take them out or put them in. You are responsible for don't blame

00:11:22.000 people under you that they didn't do it. You set the tone of the leader and ultimately take

00:11:27.660 responsibility. You take credit for all reasons we win and you take forever loss. You're going to be

00:11:34.360 accountable. So now he put himself in a very difficult situation. It's an unfortunate situation

00:11:39.560 because we were able to pass some good policies and understand that it's all starting point. We have

00:11:44.220 to negotiate, you know, with the Senate, but we could hold the ground on some very important issues

00:11:50.320 and win. We didn't win on the border and debt ceiling negotiation. We didn't win on real issue

00:11:55.260 to move the debt. We did it. You know, unfortunately, we didn't. It decreased the amount of unauthorized

00:12:01.080 spending. We didn't even pass the budget yet or appropriation bill, which was an agreement. So we're

00:12:06.180 going to not do business as usual. You know, we improve some things on the rules because we put some

00:12:12.000 good people there on the rules that willing to fight the righteous fight. That's the only win

00:12:17.120 happen, you know, that we're forced. But even our rules until appropriation, we fail on that now.

00:12:22.220 So I think it's, you know, he will have to now be able to explain and figure out what he's going to do.

00:12:29.280 Explain. I think it was a tweet you put out the other day. You said that you thought

00:12:32.980 McCarthy was weak and this Congress was worthless. I don't want to put words in your mouth,

00:12:37.060 but I think that was it. What did you mean by that?

00:12:39.400 Well, I mean what I thought I said. Okay. I actually don't spin my words. I actually mean it.

00:12:47.020 If we cannot do anything for the Republic, for the American people having leadership, we can always

00:12:54.100 talk, oh, we'll have this perfect aligning and star someday. No, you are right now in the position.

00:13:02.020 The American people give you majority, large, small, whatever you have, you are in charge 0.99

00:13:08.080 of the House. You cannot say that the issue was created by many Congresses. These issues are so

00:13:16.100 material now. The magnitude is so significant that solutions are not going to be easy, but not dealing

00:13:22.220 with them will create a lot of situations. We were talking about national security calamity on some of

00:13:29.440 these issues. If we're not starting moving the needle on them, at least incremental. So if you're not

00:13:35.500 going to, you know, try to make a difference and have some of these wins for the American people,

00:13:41.920 and it's not a partisan issue. You know, it's not an issue of border. It's not the issue of Texas

00:13:47.260 or Arizona. We have now Democrat mayor of New York alarmed. We have cities in Indiana that have a huge

00:13:57.340 problem. So this is an issue that they're bipartisan issues. And Americans all affected. Each state is a

00:14:03.420 border state. And you cannot deliver anything on that. Then why should people vote for us?

00:14:08.640 It will give an excuse to say, you know what, they're all the same. And then people get frustrated

00:14:12.760 with us. And then they elect some people that, I mean, listen, not just promoting socialism,

00:14:18.040 they're promoting dictatorship closer to communists, which is very disturbing.

00:14:23.840 And Congressman, if you just hold for a second, we're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:27.000 We're going to return with Indiana's Victoria Sparks. We've got Andy Ogles is going to be with us.

00:14:33.220 I think Tim Burchett. We may have a couple of other surprises. Take a short commercial break.

00:14:38.100 We're going to return with the firebrand from Indiana in the war room in just a moment.

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00:16:37.680 but I wanted to tell you, and I want to share with you and get your thoughts on that. Are you aware

00:16:43.520 that a lot of Americans are now afraid of being prosecuted by your department? Are you aware

00:16:50.680 about that? Are you aware of that? I'm just saying, are you aware or not?

00:16:58.480 I think that constant attacks on the department and saying that...

00:17:03.180 It's not attacks. Well, let me give you an example. You talk about January 6th people.

00:17:07.440 I'm sorry?

00:17:07.820 There are some people came on January 6th. There probably were some people that came on January

00:17:12.780 6th here, you know, that had bad intent. But a lot of good Americans from my district came here

00:17:19.740 because they're sick and tired of this government not serving them. They came with strollers and the

00:17:26.300 kids, and there was a chaotic situation because the proper security wasn't provided. That's a

00:17:31.260 question that was answered, really, why? Why we debated for 55 minutes on the floor and didn't

00:17:37.080 stop the debate after the people broke in into the Capitol. But these people came. They were

00:17:42.400 throwing the smoke bombs into the crowd with strollers with kids. People showed up, you know,

00:17:49.920 FBI agents to people's houses. You had in my district, in my town, FBI phone numbers all over

00:17:58.260 the district. Please call. Call that. People are truly afraid. I just want to make sure if you're not

00:18:04.040 aware that you are. And this is a big problem when people are afraid of their own government. And I'll

00:18:10.920 show you some other things. We're talking about justice system. I don't question. You're probably

00:18:16.400 not a bad person. I don't know you. But what I'll tell you, you are in charge of the department.

00:18:21.320 And people right now feel, you know, I look at Durham report and I call on the FISA violations of

00:18:27.300 queries of millions of Americans, right? It's like KGB. But when I read Durham reports, we have this,

00:18:32.960 you have a nice, you know, playbook. First, let's have a special counsel. And then you don't have to

00:18:39.120 answer any questions here. Then let's extend slow work investigation on Hillary Clinton, on Hunter. 0.97

00:18:47.100 Everything is slow work. We were very quick on Donald Trump, but you were very slow work. Then by the

00:18:52.980 time, you know, that investigation ended, statute of limitation expired, and all of your agents need

00:18:58.660 to be tested for amnesia. No one recalls anything. Okay, you probably should have as part of your hiring

00:19:03.480 policy. So no one held accountable, which was egregious what happened, you know, in that report.

00:19:10.060 When I read about them, I can't believe it happened in the United States of America. This is

00:19:14.260 my frustration. I'll be honest with you. Then it's very interesting, you know, regardless what it is,

00:19:20.800 even people in Obama administration raise concerns. You know, how can President Sanz be serving

00:19:27.140 on, you know, corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs? Do you understand that it actually can undermine

00:19:33.620 the one Ukrainian effort and policy? I think these concerns were raised. The Obama administration

00:19:38.700 didn't do anything about it. These people are dying right now, and Americans don't trust this

00:19:44.500 president. So you, I want to ask you one thing, you know, as you, you know, I don't need answer because

00:19:50.660 I know you're not going to, but I think you're probably a good American and you care. And a lot of

00:19:55.660 these people are so afraid they cover up this stuff. I think in your department, because they're

00:19:59.740 embarrassed that what we became as a country to say that what our department of justice became,

00:20:05.920 that allows Russians to do propaganda and Chinese, it allows them to destabilize our country. That is 1.00

00:20:12.320 danger to our Republic. It is significant danger. And I have just one more question from you. You know,

00:20:18.480 I mean, I agree on corporate crimes and FISA stuff, even with Democrats that we need to do a better job.

00:20:23.680 One more question for you. Do you believe that, you know, you've talked about rights to vote,

00:20:28.660 but do you believe that only U.S. citizens should be voting in this election and doing anything to

00:20:34.180 make sure that only eligible people vote in elections? Yes and yes. Okay. I would like to

00:20:40.300 see that what you do. Thank you. Okay. Welcome back. Victoria Sparks, congressman from Indiana Five,

00:20:47.240 joins us. We've played these two clips because of some of the most powerful and dramatic time of

00:20:53.820 members of Congress trying to, representing the people, trying to have oversight on this

00:20:59.420 administrative state, which in their arrogance just is going to do what they're going to do.

00:21:04.020 Congressman Sparks, your thoughts. Thank you, Steve. And this is my frustration with

00:21:10.800 Republicans because we can do a lot of letters and all the bits, but you're not very well. The only

00:21:17.620 thing that matters in Washington, D.C. is money. And if we are not doing proper authorization of

00:21:25.900 spending, where Department of Justice and FBI don't come to our committee, where we have to,

00:21:33.420 they have to justify what are they doing with their money? And we take some money from them,

00:21:39.980 then they will care less. I had maybe a little bit rude statement, what you can do by port with

00:21:46.180 our letters, what you send them. That only thing will get the attention, you know, it's actually money.

00:21:53.900 And we do nothing to take a deep dive what's happening with, you know, with the spending,

00:21:59.700 because devil is always in the details. And this is our number one job. And I was very frustrated

00:22:06.340 that Kevin didn't want and convinced other Republicans not to do the rule on forcing

00:22:12.340 authorization, at least improvement in some authorization for some major issues like DOJ

00:22:17.840 and FBI. I mean, yeah, we can talk about, you know, FISA reauthorization, but that's not going to solve

00:22:24.640 all the issues that within that department. And I think that's unfortunate where we are today.

00:22:29.960 And I'm very frustrated with my party first, because listen, I take accountability for my

00:22:36.440 leaders. I take accountability for my party. And if my party doesn't deliver, you know, the other side

00:22:42.800 is able to destroy and have pretty much, I'll be honest with you, this is a tyranny what's happening.

00:22:49.840 You know, our, you know, we had a revolutionary war not to have a itinerary. We are oppressing people 0.97

00:22:55.580 where people now will be afraid and say like, well, I don't like what Sparks has to say, but I'm not

00:23:00.320 going to do demonstration in Washington DC because they say, you know, I'm an insurrectionist now.

00:23:05.700 I'll be afraid. People are intimidated not to be able to say, I disagree with the government. You have

00:23:10.620 a right to disagree. You don't have a right to be violent and hurt anyone, but you have a right to

00:23:16.500 disagree with the government. If we lose that right, our republic is completely lost and all people

00:23:22.940 that died for us to have it are gone. And if our republic is gone, everyone else can go to hell

00:23:28.800 too, because we're the only country left that is going to fight the righteous fight. And unfortunately,

00:23:34.780 if we don't do something to save this republic soon, it's going to be a big disaster. And it breaks my

00:23:40.700 heart that Republicans always wait for this magic, perfect moment, which will never happen. And we've

00:23:46.780 pondered some issues for decades now.

00:23:51.740 Congressman, how do you see, what's your recommendation, what happens over the next couple of days and next week?

00:23:57.280 What is your recommendation to how we get out of this?

00:24:00.840 Well, I think it's important. And I said to Kevin, he has to now discuss with people, you know, that really,

00:24:08.780 you know, conservatives, you know, they cannot be threatened. I told him a long time ago, if you're going to

00:24:14.220 threaten me, I'm going to dig in nowhere in hell. I don't care who had to do what. I don't care what

00:24:20.200 you're going to say. I will definitely never vote for that. I don't think he understands real

00:24:25.820 conservatives that came from the trenches. They are not puppets, and they are not going to be,

00:24:30.960 you know, oppressed and not going to be threatened. You know, you have to have a conversation. That

00:24:36.400 conversation should have happened a while ago. But he now needs to meet with people and figure out how

00:24:42.220 he can address this concern, then get to the rest of the people, because it's not all this like

00:24:47.420 families meeting and everything. We all have to be able to figure out our differences. And I think

00:24:51.980 there are some things actually were very positive in the debate. And a long time ago, I told him we

00:24:56.560 need to have productive debates, not the 30 second things. You cannot really, you know, explain anything

00:25:02.100 in 30 seconds on major issues where we have to have as a group to deliberate debate and come to

00:25:08.000 the decision and conclusion and address people's concern. Because a lot of people have legitimate

00:25:12.720 concerns and see how we can come together. Because we can, we shall and will. And in a lot of issues,

00:25:17.760 we have a very strong agreement. So he has to now work with these people and figure out,

00:25:22.560 and some of them, it will be very difficult to figure out how to do, because the short frame

00:25:27.120 is very short right now. But I think he can, and he individually, I think he should not be sending

00:25:32.760 people at this point. But personally, start meeting with these people and trying to figure

00:25:37.560 out and then let everyone know what he could figure out. That's now up to him to figure out,

00:25:42.440 or he might not be a speaker. And unfortunately, that might lead us to a lot of other things that

00:25:48.120 unfortunately might be not very nice, and we might lose the majority. I hate to tell you,

00:25:53.480 and I don't want that happening. So I told him I'm willing to help as much as I can. But ultimately,

00:25:58.920 that's up to him now to figure out. Congressman, we only got like a minute,

00:26:04.840 and I know the audience wants to answer this question. You've announced that you're not going

00:26:08.280 to run for re-election family. You want to spend more time with your daughters in high school.

00:26:12.600 What would it take to have you reconsider that? Because as you know, this house is lacking in

00:26:17.640 fighters. And I think everybody is in agreement with you that you're a fighter. Well, what would it take

00:26:22.040 to do that? Well, thank you. Listen, I've been in the trenches fighting for many years now. And

00:26:28.920 it's exhausting, and I'm willing to fight the fight. But you know, sometimes it's very difficult

00:26:33.400 to be one woman standing. We need to have more leaders, you know, fighting with us. And unfortunately,

00:26:39.320 if I'm going to, you know, and I'm going to win some battles for the people. Even if I'm standing alone,

00:26:44.760 I am going to win some battles and whatever it takes. And I think we have some people that are willing to

00:26:50.440 also join in. But it will take more than that. And I think it will take good leadership. And we need

00:26:55.640 to see that. And I think in some ways, you know, if I'm going to take so much time from my family,

00:27:01.160 my children that I barely see, you know, I'm willing to do it. But I'm willing to do it. We really want

00:27:06.680 to make a difference to the country here and not sit here and be on TV and write books. That's not the goal

00:27:12.120 of my life. I mean, it is a great honor. It's a great honor to be part of the United States Congress,

00:27:18.920 these powerful institutions that can do so much good. But it's a huge responsibility in someone who

00:27:24.840 doesn't like government in general. I understand, you know, the sacrifices you have to make,

00:27:31.720 but they have to be worthwhile. And I think a lot more people will be willing to make some tough votes

00:27:37.400 if they're meaningful. It's not like we make some vote just for the show and it goes nowhere. We have to

00:27:43.320 deliver results. And I haven't seen that yet, unfortunately, from many leaders of my party.

00:27:49.800 You know, one thing, you know, hate him or love him, you know, President Trump delivered more than

00:27:54.840 anyone ever on things that he promised. He probably could do more. And I think, you know, he might do

00:28:01.080 more, you know, but unfortunately, most my politicians here, they do a lot of great deal of talk,

00:28:08.200 but they do not fight for actions to win. Congressman, what's your social media? How do

00:28:15.000 people follow you? Well, it's, you know, you can, it's my official account. It's at RepSparts,

00:28:22.280 S-P-A-R-T-Z. And I also have one with Victoria's Parts. I haven't done too much social media,

00:28:28.520 but I probably need to do more. Thank you. We'll follow you. Thank you, ma'am.

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00:30:22.160 Okay. The volunteer state, the great state of Tennessee has been at the forefront and leadership

00:30:29.060 of this historic fight that we have seen today. They're really quite frankly, I think is ascending

00:30:34.700 the house of representatives in a, in a very different direction. Uh, both Andy Ogles and of

00:30:39.740 course, Tim Burchett, uh, have both been at the tip of the spear of this. Andy Ogles was on John

00:30:44.560 Fredericks. Remember we played the clip in this morning where he said, Hey, I think we got 20 people

00:30:48.700 against the CR. And as it turned out, the CR got tossed side. Now a lot of games being played right

00:30:54.260 now. Um, McCarthy, uh, kind of bent this afternoon, sending everybody home, says we're going to follow

00:31:00.540 the Gates plan next week of going to, um, the individual appropriations bills, which we should

00:31:05.660 have done months ago. This is what we argued about. Let me bring in Congressman Ogles, uh, who I've had

00:31:10.460 the pleasure of knowing for a long time and, uh, is a big fan favorite here in the world. Congressman,

00:31:15.940 I just want to go quickly. You put down a series of demands to say, Hey, if this CR is going to be

00:31:21.020 real, maybe I'll think about it, but you got to do the following. You got to fund the wall,

00:31:23.940 close the border. You have to establish a house bird committee on reduction of non-essential

00:31:28.520 spending. You have to release all the J six videos and you have to use a Holman rule to defund

00:31:33.140 my Yorkers and defund, uh, Jack Smith. Uh, how important do you think that list of demands

00:31:39.080 and you're a maniacal focus on setting things, right? Do you think, uh, change McCarthy's

00:31:44.380 opinion? Well, you know, you know, uh, if you look at that list, number three and four,

00:31:49.120 the videos could be released right now. They can be released tonight. You could check that off.

00:31:53.180 Uh, the select committee on, uh, when it comes to defunding unnecessary spending that the speaker

00:32:01.740 could do that again, literally with the stroke of the pen. And so that sends a message to the

00:32:06.180 American people that were serious. I was just on the phone with president Trump about an hour ago

00:32:10.600 talking about this process and how broken and weaponized the government is. And he said,

00:32:15.480 he just said, thank you. Thank you for fighting back and being one of the voices, uh, for America

00:32:20.360 because look, I'm fed up, you're fed up. And quite frankly, I think America's fed up.

00:32:27.820 I want to know, you came up through the ranks, you were a mayor and you've, you've had to be an

00:32:32.580 executive and deliver for the people. Is that the problem we have here? Do we have too many people

00:32:36.720 that are just legislature legislators or just lawyers and they don't realize that this thing

00:32:42.600 is about action, action with this, the nations in a crisis and a financial and fiscal crisis,

00:32:48.700 and they just don't get it. I mean, did your time as mayor inform what you're doing now? And maybe the

00:32:56.520 leadership just doesn't quite get how serious this is. And quite frankly, how dug in your constituents

00:33:01.540 are on these issues? Yeah. I mean, I I'm quite frankly, you know, I realize I'm the new kid on

00:33:07.340 the block, you know, but, but I'm frustrated here. We are. September 30th was our deadline.

00:33:12.060 September 30th didn't move on the calendar. We've known for months that this was going to happen.

00:33:17.500 And so why weren't these bills scheduled? Why weren't we staying during the August recess? I came

00:33:23.080 here to do a job and I'm offended that anybody would go home at the hour, the idea of even going home

00:33:28.640 when we have a job to do. I mean, if we have a government shutdown, people you're going to have

00:33:33.800 people that aren't coming to work because they're going to be temporary furloughed. That's not

00:33:38.260 acceptable, folks. We've got to do our jobs. You expect us to do our jobs. And so what you see

00:33:43.600 happening right now is a member led initiative where some of us got together and said, you know what,

00:33:48.880 if there's not a plan, we're going to come up with a plan. And quite frankly, it's a broad coalition.

00:33:54.080 So I expect, I was advocating just in a meeting earlier that we have a rules vote tonight and we

00:34:00.440 start voting on appropriations bills on Saturday. I'm committed to staying here. Look, I realize

00:34:05.740 Sunday, Monday are a holiday for some. I respect that, but we can stay through Saturday. We can get

00:34:12.600 as much done between now and Saturday for the American people because we don't have a few days

00:34:16.860 left, right? And so for us to be able to look the American people in the eye and say that we're doing

00:34:21.500 the best we can do, that we're fighting for you. We have to stay here and we have to do our jobs.

00:34:28.420 And your program or what you're recommending as you build this coalition is you're going to go

00:34:33.360 through each of these appropriations bill in regular order as they should have been. Talk about

00:34:37.760 the woke and weaponization, getting them out and talk about these cuts, the budget cuts in the

00:34:43.120 appropriations process. Well, so I was one of the 20, right? And we fought for individual spending

00:34:49.360 bills. So we were told to your point that we would have 12 spending bills. Again, we could have had

00:34:55.540 all of this stuff teed up weeks and weeks ago. And so, yes, we're going to go vote on each one of

00:35:01.500 those one by one. And look, you may have one or two of them that fail, but you know what you do

00:35:05.700 because we're the House of Representatives. You go back, you do another draft and you put it before

00:35:09.880 the body. That's what our founding fathers intended. John Quincy Adams loved the House of Representatives

00:35:15.560 because that's where you fought and you argued it was the people's house. And that's what we need

00:35:19.940 to be doing right now, not going to parties and fundraisers and doing all the other stuff.

00:35:24.080 We need to stay here. We need to stay late and we need to be voting on these appropriations. And so

00:35:28.760 I've been a loud advocate for no CR and getting the appropriations process done.

00:35:34.560 I know you get a bounce, but the last question, do you think that leadership

00:35:38.240 in this process, and quite frankly, it's been humiliating for them, that they understand that

00:35:45.460 you people are serious and that the time for gimmicks and games are over and we've got to be

00:35:49.560 straightforward in how we do this and straightforward with the American people?

00:35:54.480 Well, I mean, I think if anyone had any idea or question about my resolve or some of our resolve,

00:36:00.960 all you have to do is go back to January, right? We fought for a rules package. We didn't back down

00:36:05.520 until we got it. And same here with the CR. Look, we have a job to do. We're the House of

00:36:10.700 Representatives. And so, yes, I'm somewhat baffled. I don't know if they thought that they

00:36:15.240 could jam us or if maybe they thought they could blame us, but we're taking, you know, again,

00:36:20.020 we're leading. I think you've got a lot of people that really want to make cuts. We want to make cuts

00:36:25.000 on behalf of the American people. And since the leadership didn't calendar it, we're taking the

00:36:29.600 initiative to try to get this done. And now what we need to do, again, like I said, and I'll say it

00:36:34.620 again, we need to stay here in D.C. and we need to work. And I'm committed to doing that.

00:36:40.080 Congressman, how do people following social media go to your site? Where do people find out more

00:36:43.960 about your fight here? Yeah, you just look up andyogles.com or Rep Ogles on Twitter or X or

00:36:49.740 Twix, whatever you want to call it. But, you know, I'm easy to find. And, you know, I appreciate all

00:36:54.680 that you do in the fight for conservatism and just being a voice of reason, quite frankly.

00:37:00.120 Well, I got to tell you, you're one of the heroes. People love you and have your back.

00:37:06.240 Just remember that. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Yeah.

00:37:10.240 You're seeing the fighters here. By the way, these people were put under enormous pressure.

00:37:15.880 What happened today was historic. There's never been a speaker in the House in the history of this

00:37:21.620 body, in the history of this republic, that publicly threw in the towel like you threw in the towel and went in a

00:37:27.400 totally different direction of what Congressman Ogles said was the original deal that was cut.

00:37:32.640 And remember, that fight was historic in its nature. And this is what's happened today. It's historic.

00:37:40.680 We're a long way from victory. But remember, victories beget victories. And today was

00:37:45.880 unbelievable about what happened. Congressman Bircher, do we have that we don't have the cold open from

00:37:51.440 OK, I want to play by the thank you so much for joining us. Now that you're a big star on CNN,

00:37:55.560 for those that didn't see it, Congressman was on with Abby Phillips last night, I think for eight

00:38:01.060 minutes, really explaining. And I think very for the CNN audience, it must have been shocked given

00:38:07.360 what they were being spun during the day. But you kind of laid out, hey, this is the way it's going

00:38:11.700 to be. And we're not going to back down. And the CR is going to just go is not going to pass. And

00:38:17.020 we're going to get down to the basics. Tell us what's transpired since last night when you were with

00:38:21.920 Abby Phillips with CNN until right now. Well, that sort of started a firestorm. I'm here.

00:38:28.240 And I've heard a lot of our members basically quoting me. And folks back in East Tennessee have

00:38:34.800 been very supportive. It's kind of odd. You know, you're talking about a shutdown. And our calls have

00:38:41.480 been incredibly favorable towards what we're trying to do. And they understand what we're up

00:38:48.280 against. And today, of course, our friend Matt Gates put together a pretty good idea. He's got

00:38:57.460 an incredible mind. And he put together a plan. And we were up there in the whip's office, of course,

00:39:05.000 the very moment, you know, we thought we were able to get a bill to the floor or get something going

00:39:11.860 and not send everybody home. And of course, they'd already sent a notice out that said there'll be no

00:39:17.060 more votes, which is basically the signal to go home. And, you know, several people are already

00:39:21.860 home. People are at the airport. And I mean, of course, the swamp creatures, they'll all be here,

00:39:28.920 both parties, because they live up here. They never go home to their district except for a photo op

00:39:33.740 or get a check or something. So, you know, and Matt's plan is pretty simple. You know, we're just

00:39:42.240 going to item, they have to be, the topic has to be very, the vote has to be very centric to that

00:39:51.720 issue. And instead of these huge CRs, continued resolutions, which is what they will always pass,

00:39:59.900 they'll pass a continued resolution, then they'll pass another one, they do a 30-day. And, you know,

00:40:05.080 and the argument they made was, we need to pass these continued resolutions so we don't pass any

00:40:10.440 more continued resolutions. And of course, the point I made was, you know, you don't give a

00:40:15.660 heroin addict more heroin to get him off of heroin. You know, hell, you quit giving him heroin. That's

00:40:22.120 what you do. And you quit doing these continued resolutions. And that's what we forced to,

00:40:27.380 we forced some sanity, I think, into this situation and let the Senate do what the Senate does. But

00:40:34.640 but at least today, the people won, I feel.

00:40:40.620 Now, and to go back to it, because as we come in, Schumer's talking about he's going to do a CR,

00:40:46.480 you've got a discharge petition, maybe the Democrats, some of the guys in New York may be working on that,

00:40:52.900 who knows, all these other gimmicks. But you guys are very straightforward. You agreed to do these

00:40:58.700 individual appropriations bills so that you could get the woken weaponized out, get the cuts there.

00:41:03.960 And that was going to take time. Leadership decided for whatever reason to jam you guys up. But today,

00:41:09.560 just for the audience, you undid that. We're back to actually getting serious with this and getting

00:41:15.340 into these appropriations bills, correct? That is correct. You know, yesterday, during the meeting,

00:41:22.140 Matt told me that the chair, the chairwoman of appropriations during our supposed mandatory two

00:41:28.500 and a half berating meeting, she went to a fundraiser with a bunch of lobbyists. You know, this is,

00:41:36.680 and that just tells you how broke this system is, and how broke our leadership in both parties is.

00:41:45.340 Do you think you've sent a message today to leadership, no more gimmicks, that you guys

00:41:52.000 are prepared to come together and actually unify and have a very thoughtful process here and also

00:41:59.880 a discussion with the American people about what the real state of the nation's economics and

00:42:05.520 finances are? I think we did, but I don't know what they're going to do with it, Mr. Bannon,

00:42:10.560 to be honest with you, because, you know, I study, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer,

00:42:17.720 obviously, but I study leadership and I study, I study dictators, I study mobsters, I study,

00:42:23.880 I've studied Jimmy Hoffa extensively and their styles of leadership. And successful leaders,

00:42:30.900 time and time again, they put out a point or an issue, and then they, they do their homework ahead

00:42:38.480 of time, first of all. And then they put this issue out and people rally around it. We don't

00:42:44.840 have that right now. We have folks saying, I'll jump on board if we got enough votes to pass it. 0.95

00:42:51.100 Well, that's not leadership. That's, that's the tail wagging the dog. That is not good. That is a bad,

00:42:57.520 that sends a bad message because we could really get jammed up on something and get real emotional and,

00:43:03.920 and, and, and blow the whole deal. So we need to, we need to analyze this and make sure we never do

00:43:11.800 this again. And I don't know what we do to stop us from it because people in charge, I mean, you know,

00:43:18.660 they're, they're sending us home and Americans, you know, people back in Tennessee, you know,

00:43:24.280 people in Tennessee, they work pretty hard, brother. And they, you know, you, you tell them we're,

00:43:29.500 we're going to go into work at 10 o'clock to do some votes. We're going to go have a closed door

00:43:35.160 meeting for lunch, you know, and we're going to cater in pizzas. We're going to take two hours off

00:43:41.140 from that and then go maybe vote later in the afternoon. That's not work. To me, that is,

00:43:46.920 that is an arrogance beyond belief. And we've got to get past that up here. And it's just,

00:43:53.340 I know it's, I know it's culture. Can you just hang over a second? We're taking a short commercial

00:43:59.480 break. I want to, I want to return with this concept. You're a student of leadership. Is

00:44:05.720 that where the problem is here? Short commercial break. Congressman Tim Burchett, Tennessee two

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00:45:52.300 ...out for you and other members in a meeting tonight, a plan that would keep the government

00:45:58.720 open for 30 days and would do that at levels of $1.47 trillion of spending. It also adds a

00:46:07.460 commission to address the debt and border security in that package. My question to you is, are you on

00:46:13.620 board with this plan? No, ma'am, I'm not currently. The package as you described, I mean, we take in

00:46:22.040 around $5 trillion a year and conservative estimates say we're probably going to spend $7 trillion a year.

00:46:28.120 We just passed $33 trillion in debt and these commissions, they don't have any legislative ability

00:46:37.360 and if we give them that, are we violating the Constitution by giving somebody authority over

00:46:42.620 ourselves? We've had these... This was last night and I want to thank Abby Phillips for

00:46:49.080 having Matt Gaetz on, followed two nights later by Tim Burchard, but that was really the shot

00:46:55.800 across the bow, Congressman, that kind of got the momentum shifted back to when people heard you

00:47:01.860 saying, hey, this is not going to happen, not going to happen on my watch and I've got a number of

00:47:05.320 people that lined up with me. I think it started to dawn on folks that the CR was DOA. Walker,

00:47:11.360 so you're a student of leadership. Can we go forward in particular, are we just wasting time

00:47:18.020 until there's a leadership change or do you men and women from Sparks to Ogles to Burchard to Gates,

00:47:26.280 Anna Plain Luna is out tweeting right now, all of them, the great Eli Crane, all you folks,

00:47:30.800 do you think it's enough for that group to come together and try to start to get some logic back in

00:47:35.060 this and have this conversation or do we need to deal with this leadership situation right now,

00:47:39.920 sir? Well, I think in a vacuum, something's going to fill it and I think as long as the conservative

00:47:47.980 few of us keep filling it with this information, that people will turn this away. I think people

00:47:56.520 will start getting messages from home. It's kind of like the UFO issue. Nobody, everybody was making

00:48:02.300 fun of me until they got three phone calls from home from their contributors. So I'd submit to you

00:48:07.720 that we, I feel like the American public knows we need a change, whether that's in a person or just

00:48:15.760 their attitude towards what's going on in our country. Because right now, Mr. Bannon, the vacuum is

00:48:23.480 there. You know, you can't just, and I should have corrected the lady on CNN last night, but I did

00:48:30.160 and I was trying to be nice. But that was a plan that, you know, Chip Roy, that they were talking

00:48:36.140 about, that she was talking about, something Chip Roy and some others had put together and I don't know.

00:48:40.480 It's, um, it, it was sort of convoluted as far as I can see. And, um, and, and the way our leadership

00:48:48.600 seems to operate is they wait until they see a majority of people and then they break in that

00:48:54.660 direction. And then they, they, is that, you know, the, the trains left the station and they get on,

00:49:00.100 get in front of it and ride it over the finish line and then do the press conference and talk about

00:49:05.500 how successful they are. And we just can't continue in that direction that, you know, Pelosi,

00:49:10.680 if you studied her model, she always won, almost always won. And yet if, and, and people feared her

00:49:20.540 and it was the carrot and the stick with her, either get the carrot or you got the dadgum stick 0.94

00:49:26.020 and she would, she would put an issue out and people would rally around it, but she did her research

00:49:31.960 beforehand. I've talked to Democrats, try to figure out her, her, her modus operandi, if you will,

00:49:38.620 MO. And, um, and that was what it was. She did her research. She knew what the bulk of her people

00:49:45.780 thought, and then she would put it out there. And then the people would come to her and say,

00:49:50.860 Hey, I'm for this. I'm against this. And she'd say, well, if you're against it, what can I do to

00:49:54.560 get it there? And it wasn't just a surprise. And that's, that's why we get these embarrassments.

00:49:59.700 That's why we send people home. People have already flown home and now they're going to fly 0.97

00:50:04.660 back to that tomorrow morning. You know, quit with that stuff, you know, get a clear directive,

00:50:11.960 say what we're going to do, have a schedule, talk to people, build a consensus and pass the

00:50:18.480 legislation if need be. And clearly right now, it's just the tail wagging the dog. You've got all

00:50:25.260 these different groups and, you know, they're going to say, oh, at the end, when we get it worked out,

00:50:29.520 which we will eventually, there, people will talk about it and say, oh, the compromise. That's

00:50:34.000 what worked. That's what worked. Well, no, it didn't. What worked was a group of brave people

00:50:39.500 got, put something forward and people rallied around it. And then they, and the others said,

00:50:45.680 you know, I don't want to be on the losing end of this deal. This is, this makes perfectly good

00:50:49.500 sense. Let's go with this. And that's, that's how you, you, you pass legislation, not what we're doing

00:50:55.100 now, because it's embarrassing. You know, they go to the floor and they, they'll today on the,

00:51:01.760 on the defense authorization, the, the, the bill to allow us to vote on it. They didn't have the votes

00:51:08.320 again, second time. I mean, that's crazy, Mr. Bannon. That's crazy. They didn't. And a reporter

00:51:15.080 asked me, why didn't you have the votes? I said, well, obviously somebody can't count because they,

00:51:19.980 and then you hear the, the folks who are supposed to be in charge of that and the leadership say,

00:51:24.580 well, we just assumed that since they voted for it the last time, they vote for it this time. And

00:51:30.940 that's, it's Congress. I mean, this is, this is a pretty tight deal here. We're, we're, we're running

00:51:37.720 a country, something that should be very, very important. And, and so I just feel like it's,

00:51:45.560 you know, they're enjoying the parties. They're enjoying the limelight. They enjoy, you know,

00:51:51.500 being treated at state dinners and things, and they need to get back with running the

00:51:56.720 dadgum country because I don't give a rip about any of those.

00:52:02.660 Congresswoman, we, we, we know that given your, your time you spend here, your big

00:52:07.200 favorite of this audience, how do people follow you? Because this is getting intense. It's only

00:52:11.860 going to get more intense. Yes, sir. Well, I've been hitting it pretty heavy on my at Tim

00:52:16.860 Burchett X or Twitter or whatever you want to call it. And, um, it's just at T I M B U R C H E T T.

00:52:23.760 And that's, and it, and that's, um, I appreciate anybody following me and, and doing whatever. I

00:52:31.180 think that might've been a fake one. I'm not sure what that was. I don't know. That only had two

00:52:36.760 followers. I'm up to 95,000. I'm not up to Matt Gates territory, but I think I got 95,000. So,

00:52:44.360 but anyway, at Tim Burchett on Twitter, we'll make sure we follow you on the appropriate,

00:52:50.120 on the official one. Uh, and because it does come in a little spicy Congressman,

00:52:53.640 thank you very much. Honored to have you on here. Thank you, brother. Keep putting the truth out

00:52:58.400 there, Mr. Bannon. Dadgum people follow you all over this country and this world. And if people like

00:53:03.080 you are putting the truth out there, the vacuum is there in the, in the, in the Marxists will win.

00:53:09.420 We're going to lose our dadgum country. We're not careful. 0.99

00:53:13.700 Well, I got to tell you, we got a lot of fighting this audience that does it, uh,

00:53:17.200 Congressman. And that's what has your back has a folks in Tennessee Tuesday back. Thank you.

00:53:21.680 Honored to have you on here.

00:53:23.200 Thank you, brother.

00:53:25.420 A historic day, a lot more fight to go. Not going to get lulled to sleep. Got another hour.

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00:53:36.500 empire. You got to read the debt trap. That's some of the traps they set for us, but we're not going

00:53:41.520 to fall into them. Also, I got a new fourth installment. Talk all about it. We come back

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Bannon's War Room - September 21, 2023

Episode 3046： The Fight Continues To Block CR

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