Bannon's War Room - Episode 3050： RINO's Continue To Underestimate The American People

00:00:00.000 come to a head here. If Speaker McCarthy puts a continuing resolution on the floor to keep the

00:00:07.100 government open for 30 days, is that enough in your mind to force a vote to kick him out of his

00:00:13.920 job? I agree with many of my colleagues who say that if Speaker McCarthy embraces

00:00:18.800 a clean continuing resolution to continue the spending policies of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden,

00:00:25.200 that would most likely trigger a motion to vacate. Remember, I gave a speech last week detailing

00:00:31.580 multiple areas where Kevin McCarthy has breached his agreement with House conservatives. There was

00:00:37.340 a big thrust of that. There was the spending commitments, but also a vote on term limits,

00:00:42.360 a vote on a balanced budget amendment, release of the January 6th tapes. These are things Kevin

00:00:46.500 McCarthy promised. He hasn't done those things. We're here to hold them to account. And there are

00:00:50.980 meetings happening. I just left a meeting with Congressman Biggs about the finer points

00:00:54.780 of our Department of Homeland Security appropriations bill. We have a rule being

00:00:59.440 drafted right now so that we can pass appropriations bills for our military, Department of Homeland

00:01:04.420 Security, for our agriculture priorities, and also the Department of State and Foreign Ops. So those

00:01:10.560 bills will have a good amalgamation of policy and spending cuts, and I think it'll put our country on

00:01:16.480 better fiscal footing. Do you have enough support to actually take away McCarthy's gavel?

00:01:22.640 Well, it depends on the Democrats. I saw in an interview this morning that Democrat whip Catherine

00:01:27.720 Clark said that if Democrats were to bail out Speaker McCarthy, they would require concessions. And

00:01:34.280 that should trouble a lot of Republicans, because if we have a Republican speaker who is working for

00:01:40.260 the Democrats because they're the ones who bailed him out, then I doubt we'll be able to make much

00:01:44.660 progress for the voters who elected us. But I'm asking, actually, what I'm really asking is,

00:01:49.500 what's the plan B? If not McCarthy, then who? You? No, I don't want to be Speaker, but I do know we

00:01:57.180 have a very talented group of members. It's a little uncomfortable to discuss right now, because our

00:02:01.800 number two, who would be naturally someone we would look to, is right now getting treatment for blood

00:02:06.260 cancer and is not with us. We hope he has a full, fast recovery and would be right back into our

00:02:11.340 leadership structure. Our number three is Tom Emmer. He's our whip. He's got a lot of credibility

00:02:17.720 across different sections of the conference. But getting rid of McCarthy, if he has failed us for

00:02:23.220 eight months, if he has delayed the appropriations process, as even his allies conceded earlier this

00:02:28.840 evening in the Rules Committee, then getting rid of him is sort of an end unto itself, because it shows

00:02:33.740 that we've got the ability to pivot, make a better choice, and go forward and actually deliver.

00:02:38.840 But how is getting rid of McCarthy an end unto itself? If you get rid of him, but you can't

00:02:45.540 elect a replacement who will do what you want them to do, that seems to kind of defeat the purpose.

00:02:53.360 Do you have the votes, do you think, to elect someone who, in your view, would be better than

00:02:57.600 McCarthy? Oh, sure. I think that if we were back in a speaker contest, there are any number of people

00:03:02.300 who would be able to assemble a coalition. There weren't the last time around.

00:03:07.140 There weren't the last time around. Right, but we've had eight months of experiences that inform

00:03:11.780 how we think about these things now. Eight months ago, Kevin McCarthy hadn't broken the series of

00:03:16.640 promises that he only made at that time. Eight months ago, Kevin McCarthy hadn't stalled the

00:03:21.300 appropriations process. I mean, a Democrat from Colorado, Joe Neguse, made excellent points today

00:03:26.900 haranguing some of the Republicans in the Rules Committee, saying, well, gosh, if the border is

00:03:31.460 such a priority, and if the Appropriations Committee had a border funding bill in the summer,

00:03:36.140 why did more than 100 days pass before Kevin McCarthy put that legislation on the floor?

00:03:40.940 We don't really have good answers to those questions, other than the fact that it's always

00:03:45.340 the parlance in Washington to just wait until the very end and then jam all these bills together

00:03:51.540 and get one up or down vote on funding the entire government. That is the way we have run since

00:03:58.220 the mid-90s, and I'm trying to break the fever and liberate us from those up or down votes and get

00:04:04.040 to single-subject spending bills. It's an idea even folks on the left support because it leads to more

00:04:09.020 transparent, honest, and open government. So, Congressman, a number of your Republican colleagues,

00:04:13.420 they say that they're at a loss for understanding your strategy. Listen to what they had to say.

00:04:18.960 What are you asking for? You know, we need to pass appropriations bills, not a CR. Okay,

00:04:24.840 we're trying to pass appropriations bill. You won't let us do that. So, stop voting with Democrats.

00:04:28.980 I think everybody's just confused because there's not rational explanations on the opposition.

00:04:33.040 At the end of the day, any final bill is going to be bipartisan. And if somebody doesn't realize

00:04:40.420 that, they're truly clueless.

00:04:42.960 I understand what you're saying, that you want to take this bill by bill. But the question is,

00:04:51.340 how will you do that in the next seven days in a bipartisan way that will end up with something that

00:04:58.320 is the law of the land? There's no doubt that we are behind in the House of Representatives because

00:05:04.080 we are poorly led. But to my friend and colleague, Dan Crenshaw, he probably should have watched your

00:05:09.300 program 10 days ago when I laid out exactly what we want, a vote on term limits, a vote on a balanced

00:05:14.980 budget amendment, and then single subject spending bills. Now, we've been dilatory and delayed in

00:05:20.100 that. And it was frustrating to me, Abby, that yesterday at three o'clock on a Thursday, Kevin

00:05:26.020 McCarthy sent everybody home as if we're operating in the French work week. We should be starting at 1.00

00:05:31.260 seven in the morning, finishing at midnight and getting our work done. There are members from across

00:05:36.240 the Congress and across the Republican conference who are here doing that. But we are doing that in

00:05:41.040 spite of our poor leadership, certainly not because of it. And, you know, to my to my friends and

00:05:46.180 colleagues, I would say pretty simple. We want to vote individually on these appropriations bills

00:05:50.940 and we will not tolerate them being lumped together. I think a lot of Americans would agree that

00:05:56.080 they'd like to see folks working through the weekend to resolve this before there's a government

00:06:00.480 shutdown. But I wonder, I mean, don't you think it is reasonable for members? I mean, you heard Mike

00:06:07.640 Lawler there talking about a bipartisan fashion. Don't you think it is reasonable for them to work

00:06:12.620 on the other side of the aisle if it means avoiding a shutdown that can actually hurt Americans, including

00:06:19.640 thousands of your constituents? No doubt. And Mike Lawler's right. The final solution in divided

00:06:25.680 government always has to be bipartisan. But the question is, what platform and what paradigm do we use

00:06:32.180 to engage that negotiation? I believe that we should negotiate each agency of government and each

00:06:38.140 appropriation bill separately so that we get to a programmatic level of analysis. What I disagree with is

00:06:44.260 the notion that we should start with the premise that we just fund everything the way it's been going the

00:06:49.200 prior year, whether it's worked or not, whether it's exceeded, it's expended, it's expected distributions of

00:06:56.600 funds or not. You see, that just leads to more of the same. It's actually precisely the reason that we are

00:07:02.560 $33 trillion in debt facing $2 trillion annual deficits. We cannot go on as a country that's spending $7 trillion

00:07:09.980 and bringing in $5 trillion. So I hope we can get bipartisan agreement to reduce spending.

00:07:14.060 Look, I understand what you're saying about the spending. This potential discharge position. And

00:07:19.600 just to kind of petition, I should say, and just to put that into plain English, it's basically a tool

00:07:24.040 that allows lawmakers to force a vote on legislation, even if the speaker doesn't want to bring it up for

00:07:29.820 a vote. Would you support that effort? I would if it's the problem solvers bill that we have support.

00:07:38.280 We have 64 members of the problem solvers, half Republican, half Democrat. And we agreed on a

00:07:43.820 framework. That framework is a CR until January 11th. I'll give us time to get appropriations bills done.

00:07:50.840 We'll also do disaster relief because we're out of money because of Hawaii and Florida. We would do Ukraine, 0.98

00:07:57.060 which I support. I'm a Reagan Republican. We stand up to bullies. We help out those who are being invaded

00:08:02.560 like Ukraine has been. But we'd also have a very stringent border security provision in this.

00:08:10.500 And this gets Republicans on board and Democrats on board. But with the other parts of the of these

00:08:16.180 of this framework, we have draft legislation right now. We're just trying to fine tune it.

00:08:22.880 And but in the end, if we could get legislation that looks like that, I'm going to support it.

00:08:28.020 And I believe we'll have good Republican and Democrat support.

00:08:32.980 OK, it's Saturday, 23 September in the year of our Lord, 2023. You're here for our favorite show of the

00:08:39.940 week, the Saturday morning show where we catch up, work through everything that's gone on and plan for

00:08:46.080 the week ahead. Of course, in Washington, D.C., there are a handful of people that are currently working

00:08:50.360 because of you, the war room posse. We have a lot of work today. I want to juxtapose at the beginning

00:08:57.600 what Matt Gaetz and the six and the 20 and these patriots that at the beginning of January fought

00:09:05.220 for a process. And now you're seeing it go through. And here's the shocking thing is that it's been so

00:09:11.980 long since we've done this. And McCarthy and, of course, the unit party have fought and fought and

00:09:16.660 fought not to get not to have this process. This is why they delayed the appropriations.

00:09:20.400 They lied to everybody at the beginning. And quite frankly, they sucked in Tom Massey and others

00:09:25.280 that believed they were going to do regular order on the appropriations.

00:09:30.100 Why this is important. And you see right there, Abby Phillips of CNN and, of course,

00:09:34.160 the New York Times, Washington Post. They're so into supporting the unit party and the oligarchs on

00:09:41.120 Wall Street, they don't even quite frankly comprehend what Gaetz and his team are doing. These are

00:09:47.780 individual appropriations. But listen, you can't make that gap between the five trillion dollars

00:09:52.580 in cash that comes in from all sources and the seven trillion that goes out, particularly when

00:09:58.320 you have discretionary spending, I don't know, of what, a trillion and a half dollars, a couple

00:10:02.820 trillion dollars. You can't make those cuts in discretionary unless you go through an appropriations

00:10:07.860 process and identify programmatically. These aren't going to be the horizontal cuts. Oh,

00:10:12.020 let's cut two percent. No. The way to get our arms around this in a beginning process

00:10:18.220 to break the fever, as Matt Gaetz says, which I think is a brilliant phrase, is to go through

00:10:26.680 this appropriations process with amendments, fight it and fight it out, fight it out. And then

00:10:32.160 that exposes people that are still prepared to let the cartel run the nation's capital. Now,

00:10:40.660 quite frankly, if they had started what they were promised, and this has been done in April, May,

00:10:45.540 June, July, we wouldn't be here. The clock's ticking, as we've said, and you know, on the show to

00:10:50.960 midnight on the 30th. And right now it looks like the maximum are going to be, I don't know, four bills

00:10:57.140 in next week. As we talked to Eli Crane and others yesterday on the show, it would take two or three

00:11:05.300 weeks to do this in a rushed fashion, but in at least some sort of appropriate fashion. And that

00:11:11.360 would be a couple of weeks into, quote unquote, this, oh my God, a government shutdown. Now, the last

00:11:18.300 voice I played, I think is one of the dumbest loudmouths in Congress. You always see this guy

00:11:23.800 quoted wrong on every policy, the anti-MAGA General Don Bacon of Nebraska. And we're going to have a

00:11:33.440 special thing for General Bacon today to make sure the war room posse calls him and lets him know he's

00:11:38.400 always on MSNBC. He's always running around, running his mouth. You know, a super, oh, I'm a Reagan,

00:11:44.640 you know, President Reagan would no more be putting money into the charnel house of Ukraine than flying.

00:11:51.520 He was quite strategic about where to put money. So you saw a bacon in these problem solvers,

00:11:57.120 which were really not problem solvers at all. And if you look, I'll get Grace to put up the list in

00:12:02.700 the next block of who the problem solvers caucus is. They want a CR. They want a CR. Working with

00:12:10.560 Democrats, they want a CR that goes into January, goes into January, takes all the time pressure off

00:12:16.760 and tease up omnibus. OK, they want full Ukraine funding. And I mean, not just the 300 million

00:12:23.320 that people got of the defense budget because they shut the defense budget down over the Ukraine

00:12:27.480 300 million. It's to approve the twenty four billion dollar giveaway to Zelensky and the oligarchs,

00:12:33.220 not even Poland or Germany or any nation in Europe supports this. This is the insanity.

00:12:38.400 How can you sit there and say we're going to get serious about cutting this budget and stopping the

00:12:42.580 debt enslavement of our children when some clown's sitting there going, oh, yeah, we really got to

00:12:47.140 get Ukraine. And then the border security. This is just a trinket. You think the Democrats and the

00:12:52.540 problem solvers caucus are going to are going to sign up for everything on the board that's real

00:12:57.160 security. We have enough laws in the book. Look, H.R. 2 has got some lovely stuff in it.

00:13:01.220 Of course, they take out even in the proposal by Byron Donalds, they take out E-Verify,

00:13:06.060 which is the magnet to get some here. People want a better economic life to come for the jobs.

00:13:10.400 Unfortunately, that's not what our asylum systems set up to do. That is get in line 1.00

00:13:14.760 and wait 20 years to get in here as a as a legitimate, you know, foreign national.

00:13:22.600 This is all going to come down to a massive fight this week. And what we're here to do today is kind

00:13:27.480 of break it all down to you so you understand it. I've got, by the way, we're going to go to break

00:13:32.640 here in a second. I'm going to bring in we've got Congressman Lauren Boebert. He's going to walk

00:13:37.500 through. Remember, she was one of the heroes of the beginning of the year. She put it all on the

00:13:41.200 line. She put it all on the line to fight and make sure that we got these tools. Now that now that the 1.00

00:13:47.480 the the the uniparty leadership of Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell game the system so that you

00:13:55.680 couldn't get to a real appropriations process. Now they're sitting there screaming, oh, my gosh,

00:14:00.540 it's going to, you know, the end of the world's coming at midnight on the on the 30th. That's

00:14:05.380 just not true. It's just incorrect. And you're going to see clowns like Don Bacon and others,

00:14:11.740 right? Others. You had Crenshaw. You got all these guys, the problem solvers. They're going to work

00:14:17.640 with Democrats and they're going to hold up this phony discharge petition. Right. As I said,

00:14:22.800 and I put it out the other day, Lawler and these guys, you do the discharge position. You've just signed

00:14:27.300 your political obituary. OK, so we dare you to do a discharge position when that's off the table.

00:14:32.720 They have zero leverage. This is all about leverage. This is all about you. You're empowered

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00:16:33.620 Okay, a lot going on. You've been manning the ramparts all week and we need you to man the ramparts

00:16:39.360 this weekend because there is a massive fight going on in your nation's capital.

00:16:44.800 Everybody is engaged and using your agency. We told you we would put you in the room. President

00:16:50.580 Trump put you in the room at the head of the table. Then they stole the election from him.

00:16:53.980 You're back in the room and you're at the head of the table again. You've got the leverage.

00:16:58.240 Why is that? Because of people like Lauren Boebert and other heroes in early January. Congressman

00:17:03.460 Boebert, thank you. Remember, you were called and all the other folks that fought for this. You

00:17:07.100 guys were called every name in the book on Fox. Agents of chaos. The whole country is going

00:17:11.920 to melt down. You laid out a process in these appropriations that McCarthy and his team just

00:17:17.300 absolutely didn't want to do. They wanted to create a crisis, come back here, have a CR,

00:17:21.880 have an omnibus in the dead of the night, not let the American people see it. This appropriations

00:17:27.040 process opens it up. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. You're still in Washington. You're working

00:17:32.200 through the weekend, correct, ma'am? That is correct, Steve. And we were called

00:17:37.600 domestic terrorists by members of our own party simply by wanting reforms in Congress. No one likes

00:17:44.940 the way Congress operates. And so my colleagues and I took a stand, a 15-round stand, to make

00:17:51.680 fundamental historic changes to the way this place operates. And right now, we are at the breaking point

00:17:59.040 on one of those promises that we said needed to be kept. And that was 12 individual single subject

00:18:06.740 appropriations bills to fund the federal government. We even had the chairman of the rules committee,

00:18:12.820 Tom Cole, who is in no sense of the mean of the term, a Freedom Caucus member. But even he said,

00:18:20.840 this is our most important job as members of Congress to get through the appropriations process.

00:18:27.300 And he talked about the good old days back before 1997, when Congress actually used to pass 12

00:18:35.140 individual appropriations bills. And there used to be open rules on these appropriation bills. And

00:18:41.000 there would be hundreds of amendments on these appropriation bills. And he said what a great time

00:18:46.980 it was to have everyone engaged on the House floor voting for days and days and days at a time,

00:18:53.260 and not worried about getting home to the next fundraiser. So when you have Congressman Tom Cole

00:18:59.660 agreeing with our position and saying, this is how we ought to fund the federal government,

00:19:05.400 I think we're on to something, Steve. And while some members of Congress, most members of Congress,

00:19:10.540 have returned to their home districts this weekend, dedicated public servants like Eli Crane,

00:19:16.720 Matt Gaetz, Andy Ogles, Andy Biggs, Matt Rosendale, Victoria Sparks, we're all here in Washington,

00:19:24.180 D.C. fighting to ensure that we have a plan moving forward. And we do not come up against this critical

00:19:31.360 moment of a continuing resolution. I do not want to continue to move forward in the way that we have

00:19:40.120 been going. I do not want to continue with Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi's policies or their budget,

00:19:47.260 their bloated budget. I want a, I want programmatic reforms. And the only way we get that is through

00:19:54.260 these single subject appropriation bills. Let's, I want to make sure the war room posse understands

00:20:01.700 this. And we talk programmatically and you want programmatic reform, this appropriation process,

00:20:06.200 because a lot of people come and said, well, you take a penny off, you cut 1% or you cut 5%

00:20:10.100 I think Byron Donald's, the CR before it blew up was 8% for 30 days. Matt Gaetz has said that those

00:20:17.140 horizontal things are just kind of wishful thinking. You've got to get in programmatically.

00:20:20.520 Can you walk the audience through in the appropriations process? What do you mean by

00:20:24.580 programmatically getting your hands in there and actually taking apart this budget and the

00:20:29.280 appropriations bill and taking actual programs out, ma'am? Yes. So Steve and to the posse out there

00:20:35.880 since 1997, it's been a straight up and down vote to fund the federal government as a whole in one

00:20:43.680 piece of legislation, whether that be a continuing resolution to just move forward with the way things

00:20:49.000 have been in place or with an omnibus bill. And right now we are saying we want to get into each

00:20:55.900 individual appropriations, whether it's the, the, um, the department of, um, uh, of, uh, homeland

00:21:02.260 security or, uh, DOD or the ag bill. There are so many, uh, bills that we need to get into the details

00:21:10.460 and defund the weakening, the woken, the weaponization, all of these programs that do not

00:21:17.000 add value or strength to our country, or they have wasteful spending. That's what we want to get in

00:21:23.720 there and actually cut. And so you mentioned the CR that was floating around for about a week and a

00:21:28.160 half or so that is, uh, dead on arrival. That is not something that is going to pass with Republican

00:21:33.840 support. Maybe the Democrats join, uh, in this discharge petition to actually move that CR. Uh,

00:21:40.440 but as you said, that's their political death warrant. Uh, we will certainly champion against,

00:21:46.280 uh, any of those who force something like that to the house floor. And we want to go in and actually

00:21:52.700 cut this. So in that CR you hear about 8%, but that's too discretionary. That's not non-discretionary.

00:21:58.600 So when you add in non-discretionary like DOD, well, you're sitting at a less than 1% cut. So 8%

00:22:05.680 sounds wonderful, but really it's less than a 1% cut for 30 days. And so it's just window dressing.

00:22:12.800 And we want to get in there and actually force actual change. We have tremendous cuts in the actual

00:22:18.680 individual appropriations bills. And if we force those to the Senate without a CR, without the

00:22:25.500 option of a CR, then the Senate has to pay attention to what we send them. If we send them 0.99

00:22:30.840 both, if we send them 12 individual appropriations bills, board appropriations bills, whatever the

00:22:36.860 number may be, they can ignore those and say, nope, we're going to look at this CR. And that's what

00:22:41.020 they're going to put their teeth into. And that's what they're going to focus on. And then that's what

00:22:45.320 the American people are stuck with. So we want to only send these individual single subject bills

00:22:51.500 to the Senate. So that's their only option to move forward. And then that will promote them to

00:22:57.900 actually act quicker and we can avoid a long-term shutdown. It is very well possible that we will

00:23:04.400 see a one week, 10 day, 12 day, maybe even 15 day, hopefully not shutdown of the federal government

00:23:12.200 to get this right. But also we need to take into account the pay periods. That doesn't mean that

00:23:19.100 on October 1st, our border patrol agents are not paid, that our service members are not paid.

00:23:24.360 They're getting paid on September 28th. So we have a couple of weeks that gives us time to actually

00:23:29.360 figure this out and move forward and get that funding. So there isn't a hiccup in that pay period.

00:23:36.420 In that regard, that's a very logical program. Is it helpful? Don Bacon and these quote unquote

00:23:44.920 problem solvers, which to me are always problem initiators, this thing of asking, if you get a

00:23:51.100 CR to January 11th, you have just opened the floodgates to more madness. You're going to get,

00:23:57.060 what you're going to end up with was an omnibus, no fighting on this. Are some of the problem solvers

00:24:02.600 there actually helping you guys through the weekend to get to the bottom of these appropriations bills?

00:24:06.840 Are they running around with Democrats to throw up another alternative that people will spin wheels

00:24:11.960 for a couple of days reviewing? Steve, that's the beauty of this plan. I haven't heard the quote

00:24:18.220 directly myself, but it's been reported to me that the speaker says he wants no part of what we're

00:24:24.140 doing. This burn it down plan is what he thinks that we are committed to moving forward with.

00:24:29.940 Really, we're trying to provide levity to the system rather than gravity and the status quo.

00:24:36.200 And we are wanting a path forward, a righteous path forward. And we have to break this bipartisan

00:24:43.080 muscle memory of the swamp where we just do things as we've always done them. The people who have been

00:24:50.540 here five, 10, 15 years, most of them are part of the problem. And part of why we are at $33 trillion

00:24:57.280 in debt. Within the next year, we'll be facing $35 trillion in debt if we have a continuing

00:25:03.440 resolution that goes into January 11th. But as I started this, the beauty of it is we do have

00:25:09.900 moderate Republicans who are here working with us on a path forward. Steve, to be completely blunt with

00:25:18.140 you, we were working on this process. And we were all sitting together in a closed room meeting,

00:25:25.740 a closed door meeting, when the notice went out for members to go home. They were directed by the

00:25:33.660 Speaker of the House that they were free to go home at 3 p.m. on a Thursday while we were actually

00:25:38.700 working on a plan to have votes started as soon as today, Saturday. We could have been voting on the

00:25:45.480 DOD bill, on the Homeland Security bill, on this Ag bill. We could have been working on those

00:25:50.780 amendments starting today. And instead, members were told, go home. That is completely irresponsible,

00:25:59.100 in my opinion. That is why I am still here in Washington, D.C., alongside my conservative

00:26:04.760 colleagues and moderates who have stuck around, who do not want a shutdown, who understand that a CR

00:26:11.660 is DOA. And they want a path forward. And they're working with us on that. And I'm very happy to see

00:26:18.240 this coalition being formed. Are you, I just want to make sure I understand it. Are you implying that

00:26:25.220 McCarthy understood, understood that actually self-organizing and coming together with moderates

00:26:30.920 and others who say, hey, the spending, we got to deal with the spending, that they purposely put out

00:26:37.200 to go home to try to break the momentum that you people were going to have over the weekend so that

00:26:41.540 we maybe actually make the 30th of September, outside chance, but you still work nonstop and

00:26:48.500 have these voter-ramas in the making? You think that was done on purpose? I mean, Steve, that's kind

00:26:53.260 of what it looks like. When we are texting leadership saying, do not send members home, we are at the

00:26:59.080 table negotiating this. We are making great headway. Everyone is in agreement. And there's no ceasefire.

00:27:05.620 There's no cease and desist. Members stay here. Hold on. Changed our mind. We have a plan. Nope.

00:27:12.040 Get on your plane. Go home. Go to your fundraisers, whatever it may be. And so it seemed somewhat

00:27:19.500 intentional to further back us up to this deadline so there will be a crisis to force us into a CR

00:27:26.900 because that is that bipartisan muscle memory of Washington, D.C. We have to go right up into the

00:27:34.060 deadline. And then we have to do something or else because, God forbid, we have bad messaging come

00:27:39.300 our way. Steve, I got bad messaging coming my way every day of my life. That doesn't stop me. I sleep

00:27:44.740 well at night. I have a job to do. I have voters who trust me to be their voice, to represent them.

00:27:51.100 And that's what I'm here doing. I could have gone to fundraisers. I had events in my district this

00:27:55.800 weekend that I could have gone and been with four or five hundred people that I represent. But rather than

00:28:01.160 that, I'm going to represent the some 750,000 member voters in my district right here in

00:28:08.380 Washington, D.C. And together, my colleagues and I, we are committed to funding the government,

00:28:13.760 delivering on the promises that we made to the American people back in January and disrupting

00:28:19.240 the status quo. Congressman, just hang on one second. We'll take a short break.

00:28:24.160 Short break. I got a couple of questions on the other side.

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00:30:00.540 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:30:05.400 Congressman Boebert of Colorado says this is a righteous cause. I want to make sure everybody in

00:30:11.500 this audience is empowered to use your agency. That's what this show is about is to present you

00:30:18.100 a platform or provide you access to leaders, thought leaders, men and women of action, and also

00:30:25.720 the information so that you are also part of this fight. You're just not some passive person listening

00:30:31.660 to the talk radio or watching us on TV or streaming there with the channel changer. No, that you're

00:30:37.360 actually part of this. And we know you are because you're kind of the driving force in

00:30:42.320 this. You're the protagonist, this audience. One way to do that, you got to get the information.

00:30:47.260 That's why I go to birchgold.com. Remember now for over two years, I think it is, we've been

00:30:52.400 writing this series called The End of the Dollar Empire about the state of the finances of our

00:30:57.760 country. It's really a course in kind of macroeconomics. We've got a new installment that will blow your

00:31:04.520 head up. It's about the weekend in 1971, 13 August to 15 August, when Richard Nixon and his senior

00:31:13.900 financial advisors in the Federal Reserve took the dollar, the Federal Reserve note, off of

00:31:20.240 convertibility into gold over a three-day weekend. It's probably in the top one or two most important

00:31:27.740 decisions ever made in American economic history. And the fourth installment out, you can read all

00:31:33.640 about that and understand how that drives the discussion we're having here today. Remember,

00:31:38.360 we just didn't end up as a country with $33 trillion in debt. And more importantly, and this is what

00:31:43.860 Boebert and Gates, these people are fighting through this weekend. And this is why this is not simply a

00:31:50.520 teachable moment for the American people. This is a defining moment in the country's finances. Why is that?

00:31:56.060 To get it down just a very simple, there's about $5 trillion of cash that comes in, and there's $7

00:32:02.780 trillion between defense, discretionary, and the obligations we have with Social Security and

00:32:09.940 Medicare and Medicaid that goes out. That has to be addressed. We told you, remember, McCarthy cut the

00:32:18.120 budget deal for two years because he never wanted to be reviewed. We didn't love the one-year deal.

00:32:23.440 We supported it at the end, but we didn't love it. Had a $3.5 deficit, and it had all kinds of

00:32:29.760 other things we didn't like, but it was for one year. So it would be back in the spring. Remember,

00:32:33.640 the donors told McCarthy, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you have it one year, this will clearly blow

00:32:39.160 through the trillion dollars or $3.5. And then you're going to have the populace over at the war

00:32:44.160 room and Bannon and Navarro and all these people with their hair on fire and saying that we've got to

00:32:49.280 look at alternatives. And one of the alternatives is going to have to be, because if you don't cut,

00:32:53.600 you've got to cut spending, you've got to do a program, you've got to do that, eventually you're

00:32:56.880 going to have to talk about tax increases for the wealthy. Boom. They said, no, I know this from

00:33:01.380 inside the room, so you can't do that. We don't want that as the railhead of the 2024 presidential

00:33:06.240 campaign. We don't want that in the equation. So he gave him two years. And we said at the time,

00:33:10.300 the day the deal was cut, they said that this fiscal year will be at least a $2 trillion

00:33:14.740 deficit. And worse, and worse because of the drop in the revenue side, $300 billion in drop

00:33:23.380 revenue, principally a lot of it from capital gains because there's not that many transactions

00:33:28.260 as there used to be because the higher interest rates, that this is now structural. This deficit

00:33:34.760 is going to be in perpetuity. They play all the games, oh, we're showing a budget. It's all

00:33:39.440 nonsense. Let's look at cash in and cash out. It's a lie. And that's what Gates and Boebert and

00:33:47.200 others, they're doing this weekend is so historic. It hasn't been done in 30 years. This is one of the

00:33:51.520 reasons we got in this situation. This is one of the reasons that the Republican Party that you see

00:33:56.360 personified by these weak leaders, you see in front of the microphone at the time of Mitch McConnell and

00:34:01.500 Kevin McCarthy, the cartel, as Russ Vogt calls it, just kicked the can down the road. Of course, the

00:34:06.820 Democrats, they want the 40% increase in spending that's happened post-COVID. They want that. They

00:34:12.500 want to spend more. They believe in this bizarre theory, modern monetary theory that came out of

00:34:17.200 France. As we told you at the time, I explained to you, it was a dangerous theory that deficits don't

00:34:21.620 matter. And that if it ever gets to be a problem with interest rates, then their theory is you can

00:34:26.060 just massively increase taxes and it all takes care of it. We said at the time, that's a fallacy.

00:34:30.700 It's a fallacy. And it's one of the reasons both parties bought into it. Wall Street bought into it.

00:34:35.360 And who pays for it? Look at the lead story in CNBC. I think I just put it up on Gary, the lead story

00:34:41.040 in CBC, that the CNBC is the biggest credit card defaults, you know, record credit card defaults

00:34:47.760 starting now. Over $1.1 trillion in credit card debt right now to the American people at these rates.

00:34:53.620 I think APR is at 27%. You're going into bankruptcy. The American people are going into bankruptcy.

00:34:59.300 As much as they try to sell Bidenomics, his approval rating is 36%, 35% of the economy. They've lived

00:35:04.660 experience. The lived experience of the American working class and middle class in this country

00:35:09.460 shows what a lie it is. And that's why the beginning of a solution, not the total solution,

00:35:16.020 but the beginning of the solution is actually to face this like any family would. And that's

00:35:21.020 in a very simple context. That's what's happening this weekend. And you have a handful of brave

00:35:26.280 patrons. And I might say, particularly to the Fox News that criticized these folks at the beginning,

00:35:31.480 saying, oh, this thing in January was chaos. There's going to be chaos. What they did was

00:35:35.460 heroic to put out a set, a tool, a toolbox that we could actually have rationality in our

00:35:42.020 governance. And they've been criticized and criticized and now they're agents of chaos.

00:35:45.940 That's not, it is not the end of the world to go through the 30th of September. If there

00:35:51.900 is a plan, now Congressman Boebert, Crenshaw is saying, he's saying something and repeating

00:35:58.280 it. Crenshaw and these guys, they don't know what you want. They don't know what your ask is.

00:36:04.100 They're very confused about what you and Gates and Rosendale and all these folks are asking for.

00:36:10.540 Is that, is there anything mysterious about what you're doing here? Does Crenshaw really not

00:36:15.320 understand what you're doing? It's interesting when I hear my colleagues make claims that they do not

00:36:22.400 know what our demands are, that they do not know what we want. And it actually sounds very similar

00:36:29.000 to Democrats saying, show us the evidence. There is no evidence to impeach Joe Biden. There is no

00:36:34.560 evidence that he colluded with his son in his business dealings, that Joe Biden was bribed,

00:36:40.220 that he is a compromised president. The remarks strike me as very, very similar, except they're just

00:36:47.820 coming from different sides of the aisle. And we have been very, very clear, especially here on

00:36:54.440 your show and throughout the country, as we travel and talk to millions of Americans amongst us,

00:37:03.200 amongst our group, we said that we wanted a balanced budget, that we wanted to rein in the reckless

00:37:09.580 spending in Washington, D.C. We said we wanted a vote on term limits, that we wanted a vote on a

00:37:16.380 balanced budget, that we wanted the January 6th tapes released. We've been very clear about this

00:37:21.800 starting in January and have continued these demands, reminding leadership the promises that

00:37:28.700 were made, the promises that we expect to remain and be kept. We haven't slowed down for eight months.

00:37:37.100 And now here we are with these eight individual appropriations bills that were part of our demands

00:37:42.180 in January. And it should not come as a surprise to our colleagues that we were serious about what

00:37:50.120 we meant back in January, that we did not want to continue with the status quo, that we did not want

00:37:55.420 continuing resolutions, that we were absolutely opposed to a minibus or an omnibus bill that just

00:38:02.580 demands a straight up and down vote on the entirety of the funding of the federal government.

00:38:07.960 We wanted to go in with these programmatic reforms, with the fiscal restraints, and ensure that we go

00:38:14.820 line by line in the federal budget to actually get on a path of fiscal responsibility. And Steve,

00:38:22.700 I want to back up for just a second. I love that you are encouraging the posse right now. And I love

00:38:28.300 that you are telling the posse that what they're doing is not passive. What they're doing is absolutely

00:38:34.340 important. And they are the ones who have my back, Matt Gaetz back, Andy Biggs, Corey Mills,

00:38:42.660 all of these folks. We know that they are behind us. The American people are behind us. And I think

00:38:48.040 that that's enviable to some members of Congress who don't have the support of the American people

00:38:53.540 like we do. So I just want to say thank you so much to all of those who watch your show and make

00:39:00.620 those phone calls because it does matter. If you remain silent, we lose by default. We have to

00:39:06.820 make it known that this is the position of the American people and that we are not going to let

00:39:11.900 you down. For eight months, we have made these demands. And these are the requirements that we

00:39:16.820 expect of the speaker. You've heard Matt Gaetz say that we have this toolbox now. We have empowered

00:39:23.020 Speaker McCarthy to be the best speaker in history. But we cannot simply admire our tools. We have to

00:39:30.980 actually put them to use. And that's part of what this is. It could be uncomfortable at times. I mean,

00:39:36.860 nobody likes to get nicks and dings in their hammers or break a saw blade. But in order to actually

00:39:43.540 utilize those tools, it's going to happen. So right now we are doing what my colleague from Arizona,

00:39:49.880 Eli Crane says, and we are forcing Washington, D.C. to do the right thing. Nothing happens in this town

00:39:58.000 without force. This is a forcing function right now. There's no doubt. 202-225-3121 is the switchboard.

00:40:06.280 Make sure you call and back the great the great patrons at the tip of the spear in this. And maybe

00:40:11.240 if you've got a couple of three that out there, some of these congressmen that are not pulling their

00:40:15.880 weight, let them know it too. I want to shift gears just for a second, because you sit on one

00:40:20.200 of the most important and powerful committees in all of the House, and that is the Oversight

00:40:24.720 Committee. McCarthy said on Maria Bartiroma last Sunday, and just a programming note,

00:40:30.880 Matt Gaetz will be on Maria Bartiroma, scheduled to be on Maria Bartiroma tomorrow morning. And

00:40:35.700 that'll be quite important. Make that, if you don't get it, we will clip it and put it up on our

00:40:40.180 getter account immediately. So Matt Gaetz will be on Maria Bartiroma. When

00:40:44.020 McCarthy's on Maria Bartiroma, he tried to make the case 0.68

00:40:47.620 that if you go past the 30th next Saturday, and you're still working on stuff, but you go

00:40:53.320 past, you know, this shutdown deadline, that Oversight and Judiciary are going to put their

00:41:00.140 pencils down, and it's going to slow down the impeachment process and all that. Now, I know

00:41:04.300 there's major hearings scheduled, etc. I hear that Oversight's working around the clock.

00:41:10.360 Is that a fact? If we don't meet the deadline, do Lauren Boebert, do you people put your pencils

00:41:16.060 down over at Oversight, given all the great material that you keep putting forth? Are you

00:41:20.920 going to put your pencil down? I certainly hope we don't, and we shouldn't. I think as members of

00:41:27.320 Congress who are duly elected, who represent some 750,000 constituents, that we would

00:41:34.260 be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Certainly, if we're voting on 200 amendments,

00:41:39.880 there may be a pause in committee hearings, as we're on the floor doing that aspect of our job.

00:41:45.480 But that doesn't mean that we aren't still working with staff to uncover evidence preparing for the

00:41:51.220 next hearings. I don't know why we haven't started these impeachment inquiries six months ago. Certainly,

00:41:57.140 we have uncovered much more evidence in that time, but we had enough to begin that inquiry then,

00:42:04.020 and still uncover evidence as we go. I'm ready for a straight up and down vote with all of the

00:42:10.020 evidence that we've already seen out of the Oversight Committee on an impeachment for Joe Biden. This

00:42:15.000 is a compromised president from the evidence that I have seen, from the evidence that has been provided

00:42:20.840 by investigative IRS whistleblowers. This is something that should have been a priority before

00:42:29.300 we were reaching this deadline with funding the federal government. We should have had these

00:42:34.100 appropriations bills out in June or July. So to hear an excuse of, oh, well, it's almost September 30th,

00:42:40.740 and we won't be able to do other parts of our job if we don't keep doing things the way we're doing,

00:42:45.300 doesn't make sense to me, because we should have already produced these bills to the House floor and sent them over to the Senate

00:42:53.300 months ago. Even Democrats are rightfully criticizing us and our failed leadership to get these bills to

00:43:01.300 the floor in a timely manner so the Senate can examine them. We could go to conference, hash out our differences,

00:43:06.580 and get this signed into law so we aren't on this critical deadline. And that's somewhere where I will

00:43:12.020 bipartisanly agree with my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that leadership has failed us in producing this

00:43:18.820 legislation to move forward. Nevertheless, here we are, we're working with moderate Republicans to actually get a path forward.

00:43:28.020 Hang on one second. We're just going to, I appreciate the time. We're going to hold you through the break.

00:43:32.180 We're going to stay with Congressman Boebert. We've got some questions about this situation with impeachment.

00:43:38.260 Congressman Lauren Boebert from Colorado, in the war room. Short break, back in a moment.

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00:45:38.840 Okay, welcome back. Congressman, you said you've seen enough evidence. You know, the two things you

00:45:44.640 keep hearing is that you folks that are trying to get some rationality in the nation's finances,

00:45:55.220 you know, nobody knows what you want and there's no evidence as far as bribery of Joe Biden and his

00:46:02.760 family. You said you're prepared already to not just skip the hearings and go right to a vote.

00:46:07.440 What type of evidence have you seen that leads you to go that, hey, I don't think we need the

00:46:13.500 hearings. We just need, we need, we need to lay it out in an impeachment effort in this vote up or

00:46:19.200 down. What have you seen on evidence? Yes. So I was not in the class of members that wanted to file

00:46:25.820 for impeachment on the day of inauguration of Joe Biden. I wanted to see what was behind the Biden

00:46:32.540 crime family. And in the oversight committee, we have uncovered so much of this evidence from the

00:46:38.980 FD1023s where you have Ukrainian oligarchs saying that Hunter Biden had no prior involvement in oil

00:46:50.860 and gas. He had no experience. They knew that he was stupid. They knew that he was dumb, but his dad

00:46:56.140 would take care of them. That if you have to pay one Biden $5 million, you have to pay another $5

00:47:01.160 million. The interviewer asking, is there another path other than paying this $5 million bribe? And

00:47:07.380 the Ukrainian oligarch saying that it is too late for that. We have the IRS investigative whistleblowers

00:47:14.480 that have also uncovered the same amount of evidence that we have in the oversight committee

00:47:19.160 where there were 20 shell companies, 20 LLCs throughout the Biden crime family funneling money

00:47:26.900 from foreign adversaries, up to $20 million that we have uncovered so far. You are seeing folks not

00:47:36.080 want to investigate Hunter Biden, go into his storage unit and search it, being tipped off, Hunter Biden

00:47:42.560 being tipped off that his storage unit would be raided the next day. This is part of the frustrations

00:47:47.640 that these IRS investigative whistleblowers had. And they said, enough is enough. We are all about

00:47:52.500 fairness and justice. We don't care what side of the aisle you are on. We want this process to be fair

00:47:58.800 with all of this that we are seeing. I believe that this merits a straight up and down vote. Yes or no.

00:48:06.820 Do you impeach Joe Biden? And I would absolutely vote in favor of impeaching Joe Biden. Does the Senate

00:48:13.380 confirm that? Probably not. We don't have the strongest Republicans on the Senate side to actually come

00:48:20.280 alongside and confirm that impeachment. But at least we could get that information out in a strong,

00:48:25.900 bold stance to the American people and inform them of what is going on with this so-called commander

00:48:31.880 in chief who is clearly compromised, provided the evidence that we have uncovered in the oversight

00:48:38.240 hearings. So all of this merits, in my view, a straight up and down vote. Yes or no on impeachment.

00:48:44.580 And if there are excuses about federal funding that prevents us from having this impeachment inquiry

00:48:51.820 that we were promised, then it very well may come down to a forced floor vote on impeachment.

00:48:59.820 I'm done wasting time. Steve, I have four boys at home. I have a grandson at home. I would love to spend

00:49:05.920 more time with them. I have put my life on hold to come here and provide results for the American people

00:49:13.300 to hold this administration accountable, to deliver on the promises that I made, to govern on behalf of

00:49:20.180 my constituents and millions of Americans throughout the country. I am not here for the political show,

00:49:26.640 the political theater, as Matt Gaetz calls it, the failure theater of Congress, and just make excuses

00:49:34.100 and give talking points of what's going on rather than actually doing something. That's why my colleagues

00:49:41.360 and I are here in Washington, D.C., while many members of Congress have gone home. We are here

00:49:47.640 to deliver for the American people. That is our job. Congressman Boebert, real quickly, we've got about

00:49:55.960 a minute left. Over the weekend, how much progress do you think that you folks will make in going

00:50:02.000 through these appropriations bills? Well, first of all, we should be voting today. Today should have been

00:50:07.580 the first day that we started voting on these appropriations bills that we just are working

00:50:13.020 on the rule for. Starting yesterday, we testified in the Rules Committee on this rule to get these

00:50:17.240 bills to the floor. But we're not, because the speaker gave direction for members of Congress to

00:50:23.580 go home this weekend. On Thursday at 3 p.m., he said, throw it in, go home. Now, while there is

00:50:30.200 disagreement on all sides and we are kind of stuck at a crossroads, there is a path forward to funding

00:50:36.160 the government. The House should have not adjourned this weekend without successfully

00:50:39.640 passing specific appropriation bills that demonstrate our commitment to reducing excessive

00:50:44.840 federal spending. We owe it to the American people who entrusted us with the majority with their votes

00:50:50.960 to show that Republicans can effectively govern. And this has to be an absolute priority. I believe

00:50:59.840 that there is a path moving forward. And my favorite part of this is that it is member-driven.

00:51:05.500 This is from the bottom up. It is not for members of leadership saying,

00:51:09.660 you will vote this way or L. No, this is a coalition of moderate Republicans and conservative

00:51:16.320 Republicans coming together to provide solution for government funding that is not just about

00:51:23.720 numbers on paper, but it's about our national security and economic stability. And that's not

00:51:29.180 something that I want anyone to forget. I just want to make one more point. The importance of the

00:51:34.600 programmatic changes that comes with these appropriations bills is one simple fact is the

00:51:40.920 concerning reality that there are thousands of unauthorized government programs that are being

00:51:48.100 funded without proper oversight, congressional hearings, or even a reauthorization vote. That is

00:51:53.620 why it is so crucial that we get into each bill individually and actually go line by line and see what these

00:52:03.180 unauthorized programs are, where the wasteful bloated spending is, the woke and weaponized

00:52:08.420 departments, agencies, or personnel. We have Holman rules that are coming up to defund certain members in the

00:52:15.560 bureaucracy, those unelected bureaucrats who are destroying our country. And that is why we have to get these 12

00:52:22.560 single-subject bills over the finish line and avoid a long-term shutdown, force the Senate to do their

00:52:29.920 job, fund the federal government effectively. That's why I'm here in Washington, D.C., and about two dozen

00:52:35.560 of my colleagues as well.

00:52:38.220 What is your social media? How do people follow you over the weekend?

00:52:41.880 At Lauren Boebert, at Rep Boebert on Twitter, Lauren Boebert for Congress, at Congresswoman Lauren

00:52:48.440 Boebert on Facebook, please, you know, come in there, show your support in the comments. There's certainly a lot of

00:52:55.800 trolls right now who want to diminish what we are doing, even some of those soft Republicans who want to say, what is it that

00:53:03.140 you're doing? And it sounds a whole lot like the Democrats saying, show us the evidence. We don't see it. It's right there in

00:53:09.760 Plain Sight. We haven't hidden any of it. Laurenforfreedom.com is where you can go to help me and other colleagues that I have.

00:53:19.360 We are all in this together. Remember, even if you aren't in Colorado's 3rd District and you can't vote for me, I vote for you

00:53:26.920 every day that we're in Washington, D.C., and I endeavor to represent your values every step of the way.

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Bannon's War Room - September 23, 2023

Episode 3050： RINO's Continue To Underestimate The American People

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