Bannon's War Room - September 26, 2023


Episode 3054: Where Your Money Is Going In Ukraine


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

170.15138

Word Count

9,318

Sentence Count

642

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

A new CNN/ORACOS poll gives President Trump a 9 point edge over Joe Biden in a hypothetical matchup between them in the 2020 election. Meanwhile, the anti-vaccine movement continues to gain ground in the media spotlight.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.780 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.020 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.280 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.240 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.620 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.380 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.320 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.580 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.980 MAGA media.
00:00:27.880 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.760 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.800 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.520 Martha, maybe the most startling number in our poll is this,
00:00:55.620 the hypothetical matchup, a rematch of Donald Trump versus Joe Biden.
00:00:59.780 Our poll with The Washington Post pegging this at 51% for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
00:01:05.900 That is a nine-point edge.
00:01:07.760 Now, that's only a couple of points difference from our last poll in May,
00:01:10.720 but it is significantly different than most recent polls.
00:01:14.300 It is an outlier compared to other polls we've seen recently.
00:01:16.940 Our partners at FiveThirtyEight put together an analysis for us.
00:01:20.520 They find an average of recent polls having this more in the one- or two-point range,
00:01:24.380 with Joe Biden typically having the edge.
00:01:26.560 But whether you believe that or not, look, there's a good chance that there's people
00:01:30.100 just trying to send a message in the polling right now, given the other frustration we've seen.
00:01:34.000 We know in this poll there's some quirks, some oddities around the number of black voters
00:01:38.940 and Hispanic voters, the younger voters who seem to be supporting Donald Trump.
00:01:42.780 And get this, because it's pretty hard to believe, but we ask people whether Donald Trump
00:01:46.900 should be constitutionally disqualified for running for office.
00:01:50.540 And among people who said yes, one in five, about 18%, say they'd vote for Trump anyway.
00:01:56.220 So that might just be sending a message that's more anti-Biden than it is pro-Trump.
00:02:00.380 But regardless, the weaknesses that we are seeing for Joe Biden and his approval rating
00:02:04.920 across the board are very real.
00:02:06.380 They are alarming to Democrats, even if no one thinks this is ultimately going to be a nine-point race.
00:02:15.880 Well, we were supposed to have another clip in the cold open, but that's okay.
00:02:19.220 We're already off to a good start.
00:02:21.120 It is September 25th, year of our Lord 2023.
00:02:25.040 Natalie Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon, coming at you live from our nation's
00:02:31.220 imperial capital, the land of shiny objects and special interests.
00:02:36.380 A playground for the donor class, as you guys are well aware, that's been on full display
00:02:41.120 this week, last week.
00:02:43.040 But you guys know what this really is all about.
00:02:46.340 I'd call it, I'll use a sports reference here, a pregame to thwart, to obstruct the,
00:02:52.000 what is the inevitable term, second term of President Donald J. Trump.
00:02:56.740 And right there in that cold open, which was cut short, we had a great clip from Trump that
00:03:00.140 was supposed to be played, shows you they are in full freakout, a five-alarm fire over
00:03:06.240 the fact that President Donald J. Trump is beating Joe Biden by double digits.
00:03:11.960 That's right, 10 points.
00:03:13.920 We're going to have Monica Crowley joining us shortly to walk us through, because there's
00:03:17.360 multiple buried leads in that poll among independents, among the younger demographic,
00:03:21.320 about how Donald J. Trump is just, I mean, assassinating Joe Biden when it comes to these numbers.
00:03:27.580 It's absolutely crazy.
00:03:28.740 But before we get into that real quick, I just want to tee up something, because this
00:03:31.680 links to something a lot bigger.
00:03:34.240 There's some other interesting stories that have been coming out in the media today.
00:03:37.120 Politico just finished their fifth part on what is a five-part series of the anti-vaccine
00:03:42.860 movement.
00:03:43.340 You guys know that's just code for people who don't want to get an experimental gene therapy
00:03:47.940 treatment because the government tells them to, whatever happened to, don't tread on me.
00:03:52.540 But you can see that there are all these forces that I think really are coalescing and
00:03:57.240 aligning behind President Donald J. Trump, all of these different people who don't just
00:04:01.840 compromise your typical Republican voter.
00:04:03.860 And that's why you're seeing these stunning tidal wave numbers.
00:04:08.980 I'd also be remiss to not mention that there's a great new FOIA request out there that shows
00:04:13.260 what the disinformations are at DHS, which should not get just an 8% cut, if you ask me,
00:04:20.260 what they wanted to really censor with their new disinformation unit.
00:04:25.640 And it had to do with the COVID origins, Ukraine, Afghanistan, and you guessed it, illegal immigration
00:04:32.400 and irregular immigration at that.
00:04:35.900 But I guess when the censorship industrial complex fails and falters and gets defunded like
00:04:40.660 it should be, that should be a good lesson for House Republicans.
00:04:43.520 Well, Joe Biden doesn't have the Praetorian Guard to run cover for him.
00:04:48.000 So it makes it a little bit harder to cheat in those polls to get the numbers because
00:04:53.020 we can actually see President Donald J. Trump is surging even above the margin of fraud.
00:04:58.940 That's right, not margin of error, margin of fraud.
00:05:01.400 Someone who knows all of this so well is, of course, a good friend of the show, a good
00:05:05.040 friend of mine, Monica Crowley, who I think we have.
00:05:08.900 Monica, I would love to get your thoughts just off the top.
00:05:12.180 You saw the cold open.
00:05:13.080 You saw the media saying, don't believe our own polls.
00:05:15.920 We did something wrong.
00:05:16.880 There has to be something wrong here.
00:05:18.480 Is there something wrong with the methodology or is this just called winning?
00:05:22.280 And is Donald J. Trump doing that?
00:05:24.580 Well, it's great to be with you, Natalie, as always.
00:05:26.960 So thank you so much.
00:05:28.440 It really was a spectacle to behold, to watch yesterday, continuing into today, these propaganda
00:05:36.100 organs for the Democrats and for Joe Biden run away from their own poll.
00:05:41.180 So you had the folks from ABC News and then you had the folks from The Washington Post.
00:05:47.360 They work in conjunction, polling Americans on a whole variety of issues.
00:05:51.800 And they spent really 24 to 36 hours running away from their own poll because they didn't
00:05:59.740 like what the data showed and what the American people were telling them in this poll.
00:06:04.760 Now, it is true that 10 points is a really wide margin here compared to other polls by other
00:06:12.880 propaganda outfits that show also a very tight race.
00:06:17.020 You know, they show Trump maybe running even with Biden or even a little ahead, maybe by a point or two.
00:06:23.580 So the 10 point spread was really significant.
00:06:27.040 And you know it had to kill them to put this out.
00:06:31.140 You know that with every fiber of their being, they wanted to bury this, kill it, just not publish it.
00:06:37.900 But of course, that would have been a bigger story.
00:06:40.020 So they had to release the poll results.
00:06:42.520 What's fascinating here is not just that Donald Trump is leading Joe Biden by double digits,
00:06:48.500 but when you really get into the crosstabs and you start digging through the real data in this poll,
00:06:55.740 it's a disaster for Joe Biden.
00:06:58.560 You know, you can kind of maybe set aside the 10 point and say, OK, maybe some of the methodology
00:07:04.020 or whatever the case might be.
00:07:05.660 But when you start to get into the crosstabs and you see that Donald Trump is now leading by 13 points
00:07:13.080 among independents, then you take a look at different demographic groups.
00:07:17.820 As you point out, younger generation also leaving the Democrats, leaving Joe Biden, not into him.
00:07:24.540 They look at him as a senile old man who was not delivered for their progressive causes,
00:07:29.620 so they don't want any part of him.
00:07:31.560 But also among Black voters, Hispanic voters, women, Joe Biden is hemorrhaging support.
00:07:40.360 So this isn't just a five alarm fire.
00:07:43.100 This is a 10 alarm fire.
00:07:45.180 And I want to make one other quick point about this.
00:07:47.380 And I tweeted this out yesterday, Natalie.
00:07:49.960 When you take a look at all of the results in this poll, and it is tracking with other polls as well,
00:07:56.020 that the Democrats are losing support really among core constituencies.
00:08:01.560 When you take a look at this, what becomes clear is that it demolishes the Trump can't win a general election lie.
00:08:11.020 It destroys the, oh, Trump is hated by independents, independents will never vote for him lie.
00:08:17.820 And it also becomes clear that the left's power brokers that now want Joe Biden gone because he has outlived his usefulness to them,
00:08:27.820 that they're going to use polls like this to leverage him out.
00:08:32.140 And it also is sending the election fraudsters into a panic because, as you point out,
00:08:37.800 and our friend Jack Posobiec has pointed out and others, that this is beyond the margin of fraud.
00:08:43.500 They're going to have to work a lot harder to steal the next election if, in fact, these margins hold.
00:08:49.860 So this is very bad news for Joe Biden, the left, the communists, and the Democrats.
00:08:54.080 And very good news for the former president, soon to be the next president.
00:09:01.120 No, the crosstabs are seriously stunning.
00:09:04.320 There's a 13-point spread with independents.
00:09:07.020 Even catch this, in the 18 to 35 demographic, Trump wins 53 to 38.
00:09:13.940 And of all the issues, Joe Biden pulled the lowest at his approval rating on, you guessed it, immigration.
00:09:20.760 I think it was about a 23 percent.
00:09:22.580 It's about one in five people approving of the job that he's doing.
00:09:26.360 But, Monica, before we get into the other stuff that I'd wanted to talk about with you,
00:09:30.660 I'd like to sort of drill down on why exactly you think we're seeing this spread.
00:09:35.500 Now, I would agree with you that part of it has to do with their new effort,
00:09:39.200 their new crusade to get Joe Biden out of office.
00:09:42.480 But I also think that people are sort of waking up to the fact that we're at war
00:09:47.800 and that war is against the administrative state, the Atlantic,
00:09:51.840 and sort of the latest saga of the mainstream media crying about how we want to dismantle,
00:09:56.800 disrupt, and destroy what is the deep state.
00:09:59.420 They published just today an article, the open plot to dismantle the federal government.
00:10:04.280 I can't overstate my level of concern about the damage this would do.
00:10:08.020 And it goes on to wax on about how bureaucrats and unelected officials a la Fauci and Zelensky,
00:10:14.460 that's a Freudian slip, Vindman, are so important to the fabric of our democracy.
00:10:20.880 But I'd love to just get your thoughts on what you really think the driving factors are
00:10:24.720 that is uniting this sort of coalition that isn't just, like I said, your typical Republican voter, right?
00:10:31.220 It's all these different interests coming together to get these stunning numbers.
00:10:35.200 Because you know well enough, these errors in methodology and skewing the demographics with polls,
00:10:40.520 they typically only go one way, right?
00:10:42.800 It's typically in favor of Democrats.
00:10:44.940 So I think there is some salience with this poll.
00:10:48.500 But I'm just curious your thoughts on why you think we're seeing such a dramatic shift.
00:10:52.400 Well, I think there are a couple of things going on.
00:10:55.940 First of all, I think the four indictments of Donald Trump with the 91 counts against him
00:11:03.480 have really woken a lot of people up to what we all talk about here on this show and elsewhere,
00:11:09.540 about the administrative state, about the weaponization of government against the American people.
00:11:15.320 Donald Trump is the ultimate symbol of that.
00:11:18.220 And I think a lot of people who may have been asleep before in terms of the left taking over
00:11:24.900 all of our institutions and weaponizing them against us now are seeing Donald Trump get railroaded
00:11:31.940 for non-crimes while Joe Biden and the Democrats tend to skate and walk free for committing real crimes.
00:11:40.480 So I think those indictments really woke a lot of people up.
00:11:44.040 I think the unintended consequence for the left and the Democrats is that those indictments
00:11:49.940 meant to stop Donald Trump actually may, in fact, be the motivating factor to get him reelected next year.
00:11:57.260 So that's one big factor.
00:11:59.620 The other thing, too, I think is going on is that Joe Biden's presidency has been so catastrophic
00:12:06.780 for every American between a catastrophic economy, sky-high inflation that is absolutely relentless,
00:12:15.140 sky-high gas prices, record consumer debt.
00:12:18.780 You know, the American people don't have to reach back 40 years to remember the booming Reagan economy
00:12:25.200 and think about how great things were back then.
00:12:27.900 All they have to do is reach back three years pre-COVID to the Trump economy.
00:12:34.460 So they live that in history and they know what a strong economy is.
00:12:39.100 And this is the exact opposite of that.
00:12:41.280 They are so much worse off now than they were just three years ago.
00:12:45.280 And they're holding Biden accountable.
00:12:47.260 And then they look at the collapse of law and order.
00:12:49.800 They look at the erasure of the southern border,
00:12:52.320 the mass influx of illegal immigrants with all of the problems and issues that they bring from
00:12:58.680 crime, drugs, disease, to the strain on our resources.
00:13:03.280 They're seeing this now in every direction.
00:13:06.860 And, you know, Reagan's famous question,
00:13:08.980 are you better off today than you were four years ago?
00:13:11.560 It was a resounding no in 1980.
00:13:14.300 It is a resounding no now and will be an even more resounding no next year.
00:13:19.920 That's why you're seeing these poll numbers change.
00:13:22.320 I'm sure they wish that we had short-term memory loss so we don't remember how good we had it
00:13:29.540 under President Donald J. Trump, right?
00:13:33.280 Monica, if you can hang with us through the break.
00:13:35.380 I want to get into the Menendez corruption,
00:13:37.760 but not the angle that all the other regular media is covering it with.
00:13:41.560 But really, as you guys know, everything in D.C., I think here comes down to timing,
00:13:46.500 why they chose to go after him now just after he had voiced some criticism to Joe Biden's
00:13:51.560 handling of affairs in Iran.
00:13:55.100 But even more interesting is that he retained the same lawyer that Hunter Biden did to help defend him.
00:14:01.720 He doesn't signal that he'll be stepping down despite a chorus of calls from his colleagues for him to do so.
00:14:08.780 But I think it really goes, which is what Monica and I will get to after the break,
00:14:12.840 what is the, of course, culture of corruption here in Washington, D.C.
00:14:16.520 And just a fun fact, just going to throw this out there.
00:14:19.860 Did you guys know that a top aide to Menendez when he was trying to set up some fundraiser or some, you know,
00:14:26.480 swanky D.C. cocktail event and they wanted Joe Biden to be there?
00:14:29.860 This was back in 2010.
00:14:30.980 Well, do you know who he emailed to have Joe Biden come and be present and probably, you know, rub some shoulders?
00:14:38.240 Hunter Biden's business partner, the guy who ran all of his finances, a guy by the name of Eric Schwerin.
00:14:43.960 So the corruption runs deep if you're a Democrat or if you're an establishment Republican.
00:14:50.020 But I guess apparently the DOJ now cares about fairer violations, just not when it comes to Hunter Biden.
00:14:55.440 We'll get into that more right after this break.
00:14:57.360 Monica Crowley, Joe Kent, much more.
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00:16:25.360 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:16:27.620 Welcome back to the War Room.
00:16:34.560 It's still Natalie Winters filling in for the one and only Stephen K.
00:16:38.280 Bannon.
00:16:38.780 But in the meantime, we still have Monica Crowley, Joe Kent, and Darren J.
00:16:42.240 Beattie.
00:16:42.760 So I think that's a pretty good lineup.
00:16:44.660 We still got Monica with us.
00:16:46.000 And Monica, before we had to jump to break, we were talking, well, I guess I was talking about the Bob Menendez situation.
00:16:52.340 That's a euphemistic term to describe it.
00:16:54.160 But I'd love to get your thoughts, like I said, primarily on the timing of all of this, just how Democrats seem to be so darn good at inflation, of course, but also corruption.
00:17:06.320 Yeah, well, I grew up in the state of New Jersey, and my mom is still there.
00:17:10.820 And I love the Garden State.
00:17:13.080 So I can say this, Natalie.
00:17:15.480 New Jersey is perhaps the most corrupt state in the union.
00:17:20.000 There are others that give it a real run for its money.
00:17:22.480 But New Jersey is definitely up there.
00:17:25.620 And, you know, I was just thinking about the recent parade of New Jersey politicians who have gone to prison.
00:17:32.180 They've been prosecuted for all kinds of corruption, going back to the early 1980s with the Ab Scam scandal.
00:17:39.680 And then through Jim McGreevy and Robert Torricelli.
00:17:43.940 And just the list is endless.
00:17:47.220 So now we've got Bob Menendez, who comes out of this sludge of New Jersey corruption.
00:17:53.320 And he got away with a case, a corruption case.
00:17:56.840 Back in 2015, he was charged with corruption.
00:18:00.040 And he got away with it because I have no doubt that they stacked the jury.
00:18:04.500 And he walked free.
00:18:05.620 So, of course, he felt like he could continue going.
00:18:09.940 The kind of corruption, the bribery with nearly $500,000 in cash, you've got gold bars, you've got a Mercedes Benz.
00:18:18.740 Like, it's easy to kind of laugh at that kind of corruption.
00:18:22.160 And the truth is, in New Jersey, it's kind of garden variety corruption for Democrats in Jersey.
00:18:28.020 But, you know, the bigger point about this is twofold.
00:18:32.100 Number one, the timing on this is absolutely critical.
00:18:36.760 He is critical of the administration's approach toward Cuba and also to Iran.
00:18:42.880 Very critical of the Iran deal and the fact that Joe Biden is working around the clock to resurrect that.
00:18:49.680 It's a horrendous deal for our national security, the security of our ally Israel, regional security in the Middle East, and, of course, global security.
00:18:59.100 But Joe Biden, Barack Obama, they are gung-ho on reinstating the Iran deal.
00:19:04.740 And Menendez has been one of the very few Democrats to stand up and say this is not a good idea.
00:19:10.580 So, of course, they want him gone.
00:19:12.480 He is an anti-communist coming from a Cuban background.
00:19:16.820 And so there are a whole variety of ideological, political, and practical reasons why they want to see Menendez out of there.
00:19:25.440 But, you know, the other big point about this is that guys like Biden and Menendez, they engage in this kind of epic corruption.
00:19:36.340 And, by the way, the garden variety Menendez corruption, they want your eyes off of the bigger league, the varsity corruption.
00:19:44.860 Menendez is JV.
00:19:46.920 The varsity corruption is Joe Biden, that international, deep, deep influence peddling and corruption.
00:19:54.160 That is the main event.
00:19:55.740 And they want you distracted by sort of the gold bar situation in New Jersey.
00:20:01.240 Stay focused.
00:20:02.100 Do not take your eye off the ball.
00:20:03.800 It's Joe Biden and the much bigger corruption.
00:20:06.280 But here's the bigger point.
00:20:07.900 Guys like Biden and Menendez continue to engage in this kind of corrupt activity because they can.
00:20:16.080 Democrats and the left have total institutional control and they have the protection of the propaganda press.
00:20:24.220 So they can literally get away with all of this as they have for years until they don't.
00:20:31.800 And the only reason that they don't is when the left's power brokers decide, like they have with Menendez, and as they apparently have had with Joe Biden, the moment they decide that they have outlived their usefulness,
00:20:46.200 they have someone younger, fresher, hotter, more communist, ready to fill those positions, and then it's lights out for you.
00:20:55.160 And that's what you're seeing going on with Menendez and Biden.
00:20:58.320 Well, they get away with it because the best that House Republicans can do is tweet, like Steve said this morning, I kid you not, I think on Sunday evening, accountability is coming.
00:21:14.260 That's the best that we got.
00:21:15.640 Our best and brightest can put out a tweet like that.
00:21:17.720 Meanwhile, Joe Biden walks free, Mayorkas walks free, Merrick Garland walks free when they all should have been impeached, frankly, in my opinion, on day one of that illegitimate regime.
00:21:27.320 And if accountability looks like what this Mike Gallagher China Committee has done on taking down the Chinese Communist Party,
00:21:34.740 then I think we may have differing definitions of what exactly accountability is.
00:21:41.200 And I think, frankly, I'd take the Democrats' definition of it.
00:21:44.200 And he's a Monica Crowley.
00:21:45.160 You are the host of the wonderful Monica Crowley podcast.
00:21:48.860 If people want to stay up to date with all your episodes, catch all your hot takes on social media, where can they find and follow you?
00:21:55.960 Well, thank you, Natalie.
00:21:57.320 Yes, it's the Monica Crowley podcast.
00:21:59.480 It's available wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, all of the Evil Empire platforms.
00:22:06.880 The show is there, so please go check it out.
00:22:09.420 And on Twitter and through social, I am at Monica Crowley.
00:22:13.460 And on Instagram, I am at Monica Crowley underscore.
00:22:17.400 And there's Getter, too.
00:22:18.400 Catch her while you still can before they probably blacklist and demonetize her.
00:22:26.240 Monica Crowley, thank you so much for joining us.
00:22:29.000 Thank you, Natalie, as always.
00:22:30.560 And we have a cold that I want to play for our next guest, Joe Kent.
00:22:36.760 So, Denver, if you want to roll those two 60-minute clips, let's hit it.
00:22:40.340 American taxpayers are financing more than just weapons.
00:22:45.700 We discovered the U.S. government's buying seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and covering the salaries of Ukraine's first responders, all 57,000 of them.
00:22:58.380 That includes the team that trains this rescue dog, named Joy, to comb through the wreckage of Russian strikes looking for survivors.
00:23:09.680 And the U.S. also funds the Divers, who we saw clearing unexploded ammunition from the country's rivers to make them safe again for swimming and fishing.
00:23:21.440 Russia's invasion shrank Ukraine's economy by about a third.
00:23:25.160 We were surprised to find that, to keep it afloat, the U.S. government is subsidizing small businesses.
00:23:32.500 Where would the Ukrainians be right now without U.S. weapons?
00:23:36.400 How much of their country would they have lost?
00:23:38.520 Without that sort of aid, I think Ukraine would have been probably overrun, defeated, certainly would have lost a lot more.
00:23:47.720 Lieutenant General Ben Hodges served as the commander of the U.S. Army in Europe.
00:23:52.560 He retired in 2017 and is now an advisor to NATO.
00:23:57.980 Hodges told us the Biden administration has failed to explain to Americans what they're getting for their dollar in Ukraine.
00:24:06.020 If you think about it, Russia has been for decades and still is an existential threat for Europe and the United States.
00:24:13.680 I mean, just listen to what their leaders say.
00:24:15.760 Look at the thousands of nuclear weapons.
00:24:17.400 They clearly will keep going if they're not stopped.
00:24:19.900 Sounds like you're saying stopping Vladimir Putin in Ukraine directly benefits every American.
00:24:27.180 Absolutely. This war is about so much more than just Ukraine.
00:24:31.580 Is this a high point for American foreign policy?
00:24:35.560 It will be after Russia has been defeated.
00:24:39.380 The regime media, I guess, is hard at work.
00:24:45.520 That's a masterclass in crafting a narrative.
00:24:49.640 I want to draw a parallel here because what you just watched on 60 Minutes, it's like the same exact thing, the same parallel to Hunter Biden only getting charged for gun crimes.
00:24:59.380 And meanwhile, the whole family is making millions of dollars engaging in bribery, corruption, treason, human trafficking, fair violations, you name it.
00:25:05.920 The list goes on.
00:25:08.040 But all they're going to charge him with is gun crimes.
00:25:10.400 Now, you guys know there's a lot much more darker, sinister stuff going on in Ukraine.
00:25:15.740 But just to try to keep you happy, 60 Minutes is going to do some hard hitting investigative journalism on what's going on in Ukraine.
00:25:22.640 And they found that we're subsidizing seeds and fertilizer and first responders.
00:25:27.540 They even throw in no shade to the rescue dog.
00:25:29.780 I love dogs.
00:25:30.260 But they throw in the rescue dog to try to make you say, oh, what we're funding is is good.
00:25:35.180 And there's a little air of like, oh, but really, we should be funding this stuff at home.
00:25:39.880 That is a sideshow to a sideshow.
00:25:41.920 I'm glad 60 Minutes exposed a little bit of the grift going on.
00:25:44.960 But you guys know what they're covering up, what they're trying to get ahead of is large scale, industrial scale, corruption, money laundering, grift, however you want to call it going on in Ukraine.
00:25:58.440 And, of course, they're couching it in the academic discourse of Russia being our greatest existential threat.
00:26:04.560 That and, of course, climate change.
00:26:07.720 Joe Kent, I think we have you.
00:26:09.300 You, of course, have always been, I think, on the right side of history on most things.
00:26:12.560 But especially when it comes to Ukraine, you understand the sacrifices that we make when we get ourselves into these endless forever wars.
00:26:21.160 Your reactions to what I would argue is just more narrative spin from the 60 Minutes type medias of the world on Ukraine.
00:26:31.320 Yeah, this was really just rinse and repeat.
00:26:35.640 I mean, basically, you could substitute Vladimir Putin for the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and this exact same propaganda could have been rolled out basically with the same actors, retired U.S. generals or current U.S. generals saying, hey, we have to fight al-Qaeda and the Taliban over there so we don't fight them over here.
00:26:53.220 This is an existential threat to America.
00:26:55.360 So we need to spend all this money.
00:26:57.380 It's the exact same talking points and then with the exact same mainstream media fluff where they say, hey, it's not just weapons and combat power that we're supporting over here.
00:27:06.540 It's also whole of government.
00:27:08.440 It's great things like puppy dogs that are rescuing people.
00:27:11.500 It's small business loans.
00:27:13.500 It's much more complicated than that.
00:27:15.400 Your taxpayer dollars aren't being wasted on corruption and graft.
00:27:19.060 They're really going to these bold freedom fighters.
00:27:21.240 We've been hearing this nonsense as long as I've been an adult.
00:27:23.920 I joined the Army in 1998 and fought in the war on terror, and we were told these same lies over and over again.
00:27:31.200 Retired General Hodges they had on there, he's been regurgitating this nonsense since he was one of the deputies in Iraq commanding that war, asking for one more troop surge, one more combat system, one more commitment from the American taxpayers.
00:27:45.620 We were turning the corner in Iraq.
00:27:46.960 He did the same thing in Afghanistan.
00:27:48.100 And now he's got a job spinning the exact same lies for the American people once more.
00:27:53.580 But I think people see the pattern recognition and they understand that we're being lied to.
00:27:57.420 And this really is just one big money laundering novel.
00:28:02.960 And Joe, hang with us.
00:28:04.220 I want to drill down more on this, how it links, of course, to the CR.
00:28:07.700 And really what I think their ultimate plan is, which is to make Ukraine the next forever war abroad so the military industrial complex can get their profits.
00:28:16.820 If only they cared about the southern border as much as they did Ukraine.
00:28:20.900 Probably make a lot of money there, too.
00:28:22.500 We'll be right back after this break.
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00:29:55.140 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:29:57.240 Bannon.
00:30:02.540 We've got a very long week ahead of us.
00:30:05.300 Congress is going to be gaveling in tomorrow at noon since they needed to take a long weekend starting Thursday at 3 p.m.
00:30:11.840 because they've worked so hard.
00:30:14.160 Oh, wait, no, they were on recess for over a month.
00:30:16.080 But it's going to be important that you guys are well-rested and ready to fire up those phone lines as you guys have been doing and continue to do.
00:30:24.280 It's important.
00:30:24.840 It's working.
00:30:25.260 It's helping to move the needle so you've got to go to mypillow.com slash war room to make sure you get a good night's sleep so you can make the best case you can when you call your congressman to make sure that we hold the line.
00:30:37.320 And don't get a CR, an omnibus, 30 days, 45 days, 8 percent, none of it.
00:30:42.320 We don't want it.
00:30:42.880 We want single-subject spending bills like Congressman Matt Gaetz has been outlining from day one.
00:30:50.000 Also, you've got to go to Birch Gold to get the latest installment of the End of the Dollar Empire, birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:30:58.840 If you want to get all the, say, lingo, understand the vernacular, not just what Steve is talking about, but when they talk about fiscal policy on the Hill, sometimes I'm even like, what are they talking about?
00:31:10.580 But you can learn a lot from the wonderful book that is The End of the Dollar Empire that Steve helped write with the guys over at Birch Gold.
00:31:18.580 So if you go to birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:31:21.600 But without further ado, we still got Joe Kent with us while Darren Beatty joining us after him.
00:31:27.960 But, Joe, I'd love if you could just pick up where you left off, but particularly you tweeted something that made me laugh, saying that foreign aid is basically just money laundering.
00:31:36.520 And I wholeheartedly agree with you, but if you could sort of walk us through that paradigm and how it really affects what's going on with the Ukraine situation.
00:31:46.700 Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
00:31:48.300 Look, I mean, what Washington, D.C. loves more than anything is these massive foreign aid projects, or even better, is a war, a proxy war or a hot war, because it allows them to move billions and billions, if not even more, more money overseas where it really can't be accounted for.
00:32:04.500 And then it's much easier for that money to just sort of randomly find its way back into the coffers in Washington, D.C.
00:32:11.100 And it's not always as obvious as it is with Senator Menendez and gold bars and hundreds of thousands of dollars in his house.
00:32:17.460 It's usually much more subtle.
00:32:19.240 It goes through these NGOs overseas, and then it comes back into the form of buying political capital in the form of super PACs.
00:32:26.500 That money gets laundered back into the coffers of politicians who subsequently vote for the wars, or really, even better, just approve the massive omnibus packages, the CRs that allow the president to continue just to give these countries a blank check.
00:32:40.680 When you think about it, we spent about $8 trillion in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:32:44.220 We got absolutely nothing for that in return, and it's hard to account for where all that money went.
00:32:51.000 Really, you don't see Iraq or Afghanistan being better off for all the money that we spent, regardless of all the different nation-building hype that you heard.
00:32:58.240 But what you did see is you saw a bunch more mansions built along the Potomac River that now are inhabited by defense contractors.
00:33:05.660 And this is the scam.
00:33:06.820 When you wonder why your infrastructure in your state, in your home, why our bridge here in the Pacific Northwest and Washington 3 is falling apart, why we can't get money for our first responders, we're funding the first responders in Ukraine, but we can't get enough wildland firefighters out to fight the forest fires in our backyard.
00:33:23.080 Well, it's because Washington, D.C. prioritizes foreign aid in wars over everything else.
00:33:29.120 And you've seen that when they say, hey, we can't fund any of the disaster relief in America until we fund Ukraine.
00:33:35.660 And that's why I think it's really important what Matt Gaetz and the rest of the Freedom Caucus are doing by holding the line and saying, hey, we owe it to the American people to debate these issues separately and transparently.
00:33:48.940 Yeah, walk us through your logic on that.
00:33:50.920 Obviously, I think the posse knows very well you're running for Congress out in Washington's beautiful 3rd District.
00:33:57.300 But just run us through your approach to the concept of CR versus single-subject spending bills.
00:34:02.380 Because omnibus is this, you know, what Matt Gaetz always says, is this just the muscle memory of Washington, D.C.
00:34:08.220 doing what it does best, putting you guys up against a wall so you have no choice but to just fund the entire government.
00:34:14.940 You don't have time to do the single-subject spending bills because, you know, apparently September 30th, sometimes it's confusing.
00:34:21.860 It does always seem to fall on September 30th, hence the date.
00:34:25.740 But I guess in Kevin McCarthy's universe, maybe it doesn't come.
00:34:29.280 I don't know.
00:34:30.240 Maybe it's intentional.
00:34:31.280 Maybe it's incompetent.
00:34:32.180 I think you know my theory of the case.
00:34:33.520 But just walk us through a little bit your approach to the CR, say you were in Congress now.
00:34:39.260 Right now, we are $33 trillion in debt.
00:34:42.760 We take in $5 trillion in taxes, as the posse knows, because you guys cover it very well.
00:34:46.680 And the Biden regime and the Democrats want to spend $7 trillion, running up $2 trillion every single year.
00:34:53.040 This isn't sustainable.
00:34:54.060 Every single common sense American knows that.
00:34:56.160 And so what we actually have to do is say, hey, the status quo has gotten us to this point.
00:35:00.620 And, you know, back in the late 90s, that was the last time they did individual appropriations bills.
00:35:05.320 And ever since then, really, in the post-9-11 era, we've said, hey, we're way too busy.
00:35:09.620 In particular, we're too busy with all these wars.
00:35:11.840 We've just got to have these omnibus budgets and these CRs.
00:35:15.420 And that's gotten us to this point.
00:35:17.060 So if we're going to continue to go down this road, we're basically kissing the republic goodbye.
00:35:21.560 And right now, the dollar, as you guys point out here on The War Room, it is not strong enough because of what's happening geopolitically, what's happening with BRICS, what's happening with OPEC.
00:35:30.540 The dollar is losing its strength.
00:35:32.300 We've got to get serious.
00:35:33.840 So I believe that it is the fiscally responsible thing to do.
00:35:37.380 It is the conservative, small government-minded thing to do is to stop and say, hey, we're going to break it down individually on what we spend our money on.
00:35:45.180 We're going to be good stewards of the taxpayer dollars.
00:35:47.080 We're going to lay it out for the American people.
00:35:48.680 And we're going to have these robust debates.
00:35:50.420 If there's people on the other side of the aisle or even Republicans that are fans of what's happening in Ukraine, then that should be debated individually.
00:35:58.540 And they should say, hey, this is how much this Ukraine aid is going to cost.
00:36:01.560 Here's what we get in return.
00:36:02.740 And we should have a robust debate about that that the American people can see and they can weigh in on, as opposed to just lumping everything together and saying, hey, if you peasants out there in regular America want any kind of table scraps from your government, then first thing you've got to do is approve Ukraine aid and then also fund the woke and weaponized government.
00:36:20.740 Another big issue, too, is we have a very limited amount of power in Washington, D.C. right now.
00:36:25.640 It's with this thin majority in the House of Representatives.
00:36:27.940 If we're worried about what Biden's doing at the border with the corruption of the Biden regime, then we've got to use the appropriations process and the power of the purse strings to actually hold them accountable, because it's one thing to have a hearing and yell at them.
00:36:41.240 It's quite another to say we are going to defund these individual programs until we see actual change come about.
00:36:47.900 So I think it's the responsible thing to do.
00:36:50.220 And then in terms of actually holding this regime accountable, it's our only option.
00:36:54.540 And just one more question.
00:36:59.000 I think we'll have Darren J.B. joining us shortly with some new developments on the Ray Epps front.
00:37:05.940 Speaking of a weaponized, as I say, foreign government certainly feels that way sitting in Washington, D.C., but federal government.
00:37:12.220 I would assume I know the answer to this, that you are obviously a no on more money for Ukraine.
00:37:17.920 But you see leadership sort of flip flopping, saying, oh, we're going to take the Ukraine aid out, then putting it back in and taking it out again.
00:37:25.040 Right. It's this sort of dance.
00:37:26.620 What do you think fundamentally is driving again, like Steve always says, you know, make it make sense.
00:37:36.520 Right. There's something not right here when it comes to the Ukraine issue.
00:37:40.380 Do you really think it's fair to just chalk it up primarily to the military defense contractors, to the defense industry?
00:37:48.040 Or do you think there's another part of it, too, which sort of circles back to that 60 minutes clip, which is just this unending, unceasing appetite from the regime, sort of the academic think tank crowd that Russia is the enemy.
00:38:03.960 Russia is the existential threat. And we know they're not good guys.
00:38:06.720 We're not, you know, hardcore pro-Russia here in the war room, but we're also not ridiculously pro-Ukraine to the point where we want to bankrupt the United States to the detriment of our own southern border.
00:38:19.640 So in order to, I think, combat this, you have to sort of understand the evil forces that are making Ukraine such an issue, right, to begin with.
00:38:27.980 So if you really had to distill it down, what do you think it comes down to that Ukraine is just so on the forefront of these people's minds?
00:38:36.720 Well, number one, after Afghanistan and Iraq ended, they needed another war.
00:38:41.760 But Ukraine and really having to push the expansion of NATO and NATO security agreements, that really, that and keeping our manufacturing base over in China kind of underpins what they call, you know, the post-war liberal rules-based order that we provide the security guarantees for.
00:38:57.900 So we have to spend trillions on the defense of NATO.
00:39:01.160 We have to spend trillions on securing the high seas to make sure global commerce can still happen.
00:39:06.040 We have to spend all of this money, and that includes everything that happens on Wall Street, that also includes sending our sons and daughters off to go fight and make sure these security agreements are upheld with our blood and our treasure.
00:39:20.440 But also, this really just underpins the entire U.S. system that gives power just to the Washington, D.C. elite, to Wall Street.
00:39:28.360 Because if we were to actually prioritize Americans, the last thing we would do is scatter our forces out throughout the entire world, getting involved in all these conflicts that don't really involve American interests.
00:39:40.160 We'd secure our border.
00:39:41.340 We'd bring back our manufacturing.
00:39:43.180 We'd use our natural resources.
00:39:45.000 So then the Chinese Communist Party, if we kicked them out of our capital markets and we stopped relying on them from manufacturing, we simply wouldn't even need them as much.
00:39:53.420 And we also wouldn't need to provide the security guarantees in Europe anymore.
00:39:57.880 And we'd be able to actually focus and prioritize for once on the American people.
00:40:02.520 So I think that this is the last grasp of the old school rules-based international order to keep their interests first and foremost, because the last thing they want is for the American people to be put first and for us to be back in the driver's seat.
00:40:20.040 And this is another reason why President Trump and the America First movement is such a threat to these people, because if we start putting Americans first, then all of it crumbles and they lose their power and their control.
00:40:30.960 So they're going to continue to push this NATO expansion and this war and all these different security agreements.
00:40:37.180 And they will continue to prioritize the American people last until we vote them out of office and take back power.
00:40:45.200 I think that's what we call the primal scream of a dying regime, to quote the intro of War Room.
00:40:51.920 Joe Kent, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with the campaign and support you, where can they go?
00:40:56.900 Yeah, please go to joekentforcongress.com.
00:40:59.400 I'm up against millions of dollars coming from Nancy Pelosi's Democrats.
00:41:02.960 I rely on small-dollar donors.
00:41:04.640 This is the end of the quarter, so anything people can give by the end of the month will really help us out.
00:41:08.900 Joe Kent for congress.com.
00:41:12.680 Thank you, sir.
00:41:14.420 Thank you very much, Emily.
00:41:15.340 It really is sick that House Republicans took, what was it, a six-week recess when every single day the U.S. southern border was getting breached, destroyed, dare I say, I mean, raped with migrants entering this country.
00:41:33.220 Meanwhile, the Democrats were sitting back saying, hey, every day we don't do something.
00:41:37.060 That's new voters for us.
00:41:38.360 That's new people to put on the government dole to ensure that they're Democratic voters for life.
00:41:44.200 The true insurrection, we're bringing in our very own insurrection expert momentarily, I think is happening at the border right now.
00:41:51.520 But apparently, no one seems to care.
00:41:55.060 But someone who does care about the Fed's insurrection is Darren J. Beattie.
00:41:59.300 Now, we've got about two minutes before we've got to jump to break, but I'll let you take a crack at it.
00:42:03.640 You can start on the latest developments, at least an exclusive story from you guys at Revolver when it comes to Ray Epps.
00:42:09.220 Indeed, well, I think many people have heard Ray Epps has been slapped on the wrist with a sham, bungling, too little, too late, singular misdemeanor indictment for, wait for it, disorderly conduct.
00:42:27.000 So we go through the statement of offense and line by line, and we show just what an absolute sham it is coming from Merrick Garland in this latest piece from Revolver.News with very rare footage of Ray Epps that will, I think, shock people.
00:42:46.060 So I encourage everyone, let's read along, go to Revolver.News, and we can look at the video together.
00:42:54.260 And when you come back from break, we can go over what the video means in context.
00:43:02.060 I'm looking forward to that.
00:43:03.500 I love it when my guests give me the outline of the show.
00:43:07.280 It makes my job a lot easier.
00:43:09.320 Maybe you're coming for my job.
00:43:12.800 Darren, hang with us through the break, and we'll get to that story and so much more.
00:43:19.260 If you want, in the meantime, you can check out my Twitter.
00:43:21.840 There's a video of, believe it or not, a National Guardsman.
00:43:24.920 There's a horde of illegals trying to, well, I guess they already did, enter this country.
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00:43:30.640 Illegally, and this National Guardsman down in Texas, instead of turning them around at the border,
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00:45:27.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:31.460 Welcome back to The War Room.
00:45:37.220 We've still got Dr. Darren J. Beattie with us to discuss all of the lies our government has told us.
00:45:43.440 Specifically, I know there are a lot of ways I could end that sentence,
00:45:45.980 but specifically about January 6th, and you guys know, of course,
00:45:48.960 they're also lying to us about the economy.
00:45:50.680 I'd argue purposefully trying to tank it.
00:45:55.940 That's why you've got to go to Birchgold.com slash Bannon to get the end of the dollar empire
00:46:00.500 and put your financial future in your own hands because, as you guys know, knowledge is power.
00:46:07.320 And here in The War Room, we define knowledge as what the regime media doesn't want you to know.
00:46:13.420 So that's why you've got to read The End of the Dollar Empire.
00:46:15.540 It's full of misinformation and disinformation and conspiracy theories, as our bettors in the mainstream press would tell you.
00:46:22.440 Now, Darren, if you want to walk us through what you were discussing before the break, the videos, everything, Ray Epps.
00:46:28.900 I'm sure the audience is on the edge of their seat.
00:46:32.500 Indeed.
00:46:33.340 So Ray Epps was hit with a singular misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct in a restricted area.
00:46:40.880 He was hit with this misdemeanor charge nearly three years after January 6th.
00:46:48.680 Those two things are really important to understand as the regime media characterizes this as a refutation of all of the damning, burning questions surrounding Ray Epps' involvement on January 6th.
00:47:02.880 And so what we do in this latest white-hot bombshell revolver piece is we dissect Merrick Garland's statement of offense, this sweetheart, bizarre plea deal that Ray Epps has given almost three years after the fact.
00:47:20.220 We look at their characterization of Ray Epps' behavior on the 5th and the 6th, and we compare it with video that we've obtained.
00:47:30.580 Some of this is very rare video, not the standard now iconic stuff that people have seen circulating on Twitter, very rare video, just comprehensively documenting Epps' behavior on the 5th and the 6th.
00:47:45.700 And I encourage everyone, go to the site and read through it yourself.
00:47:50.200 Some of the highlights in the video is a clip of him seeming to say we're here to storm the Capitol.
00:47:55.800 We document how invasive he was going to all different groups, redirecting their attention from Antifa and BLM to this bizarre mission of going into the Capitol.
00:48:10.680 In fact, at one point he bizarrely states the Capitol is our enemy, as though he traveled all the way across the country to vent out some grudge on neoclassical architecture.
00:48:24.440 We have a really remarkable exchange between Ray Epps and a kid who thinks he's full of crap, and the kid says, you're not going to storm the Capitol, you're full of BS.
00:48:37.580 And Ray Epps looks at him, this is such a good video, people need to see him.
00:48:41.440 Ray Epps looks at him, he grins, and he does talk to the hand, like, wait and see, kid.
00:48:49.200 Wait and see what we've got in store.
00:48:51.520 You don't think we're going to do it?
00:48:53.060 Wait and see, kid.
00:48:54.900 So there's really remarkable footage there that, you know, is interesting in its own right, but contextually it shows that the characterization of Epps' behavior in this ridiculous plea deal is nowhere close to what his actual behavior was in terms of how it was documented, how committed he was, and just how egregious his behavior was.
00:49:18.340 And I should point out as well, as we've reported on this very early on, the FBI put him on their most wanted list two days after January 6th.
00:49:27.780 So it's not like they're just learning about Epps and decide to hit him with a misdemeanor charge.
00:49:31.660 They've been sitting on this for a long time, and if they think that this is going to repair their utterly shattered narrative as it pertains to Epps or January 6th, they're sorely mistaken.
00:49:45.500 In fact, desperate attempts like this to salvage the narrative just make them not only look more guilty, but even worse, far more incompetent than we ever could have imagined.
00:49:58.660 So that's the story here, and I'd like to just address one thing that's sort of a breaking issue that's really shocked me in many ways.
00:50:09.540 People who have been following our research on January 6th know that I've spoken about this individual fence-cutter Bulwark as one of the people that I'd love to be identified,
00:50:19.300 who we've shown him on videos methodically cutting down fencing in advance of the crowd going to the Capitol and so forth.
00:50:30.060 Well, bizarrely, he's come out of the woodwork, and he's doing an interview with these people I've never heard of, punk rocker patriots.
00:50:40.480 And I'm suspending full commentary and judgment until I see the interview, but I just find it very interesting that just not even a week after this bizarre Ray Epps misdemeanor slap on the wrist thing,
00:50:56.860 now all of a sudden one of the most curious characters in the whole J6 saga of the fence-cutter is crawling out of the woodwork for an interview with these people that nobody's ever heard of.
00:51:08.000 It seems like someone behind the scenes is trying to put out all the conspiracy fires and tie a nice little bow on January 6th and move on
00:51:18.440 and hope people forget about all these questions that we've been asking for years that get to the core of just what a lie the fence-erection is.
00:51:26.320 So this is, I would say, one of the most important developments in the J6 research in a very long time.
00:51:35.640 So I look forward to seeing who this guy is, what he says.
00:51:40.020 I don't know much about it, but it's a big deal, and I wanted to make sure your audience has it on their radar,
00:51:47.500 because I'm going to have a big response after the interview airs.
00:51:50.580 I think it's on Wednesday.
00:51:51.540 Like I always say, they wish that MAGA had short-term memory, but unfortunately, we are very intellectually advanced,
00:52:02.100 and we don't forget and we don't fall victim to the misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy theory labels,
00:52:09.160 despite the federal government's best efforts.
00:52:11.420 Darren J. Beattie, if people want to find you, follow you, stay up to date with everything you're publishing,
00:52:15.000 where can they go to do so?
00:52:17.480 Revolver.news, go to the very top.
00:52:19.840 Watch this video.
00:52:20.860 It's a very rare video.
00:52:22.620 Some of it's bizarre.
00:52:24.100 It's damning.
00:52:25.460 It's really interesting stuff.
00:52:27.400 So Revolver.news for the video, and we've got a series of really, really hard-hitting pieces coming throughout the week.
00:52:35.340 So check Revolver.news, or WhiteHot is always on Gitter, at Revolver News.
00:52:40.140 And I am on the esteemed platform known as X, at Darren J. Beattie, formerly known as Twitter.
00:52:49.200 And if I'm not mistaken, Darren, all those videos that you're talking about, we certainly don't have Kevin McCarthy to thank for those, right?
00:52:59.460 He never gave you anything.
00:53:00.620 We got 30 seconds, so I got to let you go.
00:53:02.500 But no help from him.
00:53:05.980 And War Room Posse, in the meantime, if you want to give your congressman a nice call, depending if they're on the good side or the bad side.
00:53:13.940 I'm from California, so I won't even try.
00:53:17.020 But 202-225-3121.
00:53:21.280 202-225-3121.
00:53:24.760 Thank you for hanging with me, and make sure you call and give them the old what.
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