Bannon's War Room - Episode 3075： Knives Are Out For The Heroic 8

00:00:00.000 My colleague says we've passed the strongest border bills in history.

00:00:04.140 Well, guess what? Look at the border right now.

00:00:05.900 We didn't use sufficient leverage in the debt limit or in any other thing to actually get results on the border.

00:00:11.460 The border is a disaster, really something I don't think you're going to be campaigning on that you fix the border.

00:00:16.580 Second, you said you streamlined regulations.

00:00:19.200 What the gentleman from Louisiana doesn't tell you is that all of the regulatory reform he was just bragging about is waivable by the stroke of a pen of someone in the Biden White House.

00:00:30.200 Do you really think you've got anything for that? It's a total joke.

00:00:32.980 And then finally, the welfare to work that the gentleman from Louisiana said we got.

00:00:37.240 The welfare programs that they said that they streamlined with their welfare to work stuff, they're actually going to grow.

00:00:44.000 Because while they did work requirements, they blew out those programs with expanded eligibility.

00:00:49.280 I'm real glad you guys didn't put work requirements on Medicaid. It probably would have resulted in Medicaid expansion.

00:00:53.820 And when it comes to how those raised money, I take no lecture on asking patriotic Americans to weigh in and contribute to this fight from those who would grovel and bend knee for the lobbyists and special interests,

00:01:07.800 who own our leadership, who have, oh, boo all you want, who have hollowed out this town and have borrowed against the future of our future generations.

00:01:16.940 I'll be happy to fund my political operation through the work of hardworking Americans, 10 and 20 and $30 at a time.

00:01:24.780 And you all keep showing up at the lobbyist fundraisers and see how that goes for you.

00:01:28.480 I reserve.

00:01:28.900 Once again, the chair would admonish.

00:01:34.660 Biggs.

00:01:36.220 Aye.

00:01:36.960 Buck.

00:01:37.820 Aye.

00:01:38.760 Burchett.

00:01:40.800 Crane.

00:01:43.580 Yes.

00:01:44.560 Gates.

00:01:45.720 Yes.

00:01:47.140 Good of Virginia.

00:01:49.080 Yes.

00:01:50.320 Mace.

00:01:51.880 Aye.

00:01:52.360 Aye.

00:01:53.400 Rosendale.

00:01:58.120 Aye.

00:01:58.900 On this vote, the yeas are 216.

00:02:04.280 The nays are 210. 0.98

00:02:07.320 The resolution is adopted.

00:02:09.660 Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.

00:02:13.660 The office of Speaker of the House of the United States House of Representatives is hereby declared vacant.

00:02:22.700 I called Nancy Mace's chief of staff yesterday.

00:02:25.440 And, um, because I called the chief of staff.

00:02:31.280 Well, she was on the view saying I didn't keep my word.

00:02:33.580 So I don't know what to, listen, um, I can't say this in the press, but okay.

00:02:39.020 Um, but so, I, I, I, I, I, I.

00:02:44.480 No.

00:02:45.060 You'll keep it among yourselves, right?

00:02:49.120 Wait till my book.

00:02:50.320 Um.

00:02:50.640 No.

00:02:52.920 So I call her chief of staff because, I don't know, maybe I don't connect her with someone else.

00:02:56.860 But I just said to him, I said, can you please tell me, I don't understand, where have I not kept my word?

00:03:03.160 You know what her chief of staff said?

00:03:04.300 You have kept your word.

00:03:05.420 A hundred percent.

00:03:07.240 Um.

00:03:09.600 Members come to me.

00:03:10.680 And one thing, I don't like the idea that a member comes and tries to leverage me.

00:03:14.560 I, I, I don't go for that.

00:03:15.620 You know, I'll vote for the bill you do.

00:03:16.740 I, that, that's not well.

00:03:18.220 But if you have a problem with the bill, I want to help you.

00:03:20.780 But I can't sit there and write your entire bill and work it all the way through a committee.

00:03:25.540 We just got our one bill out.

00:03:26.480 It is a Wednesday for October in the year of our Lord, 2023.

00:03:30.000 The day after, the morning after, uh, one of the most important days in American political history.

00:03:36.860 For the first time in this republic, a sitting speaker of the House was removed by a vote of the House.

00:03:43.300 We have two of, uh, honored to have two of the, uh, leaders of this revolt, uh, with us live in the war room today.

00:03:49.900 Nancy Mace of South Carolina and, of course, Matt Gaetz of Florida.

00:03:53.300 Uh, we don't need to relitigate.

00:03:55.480 But I think it's important about going forward because the audience in war room posse, the number is 202-225-3121.

00:04:03.160 You've got to be at the ramparts today because K Street, the lobbyists, are coming hard.

00:04:07.560 Coming hard for this movement and coming hard for people that, uh, stood and stood in the breach yesterday.

00:04:12.500 What, Nancy, in your, Congressman Mace, in your mind, what was yesterday about?

00:04:17.340 What, what, because it's a lot of confusion.

00:04:19.120 And, of course, other bigger conservative outlets are putting a spin on this.

00:04:23.820 What, what was yesterday about and why did you stand up?

00:04:28.240 You could hear the audible gasp when this was live.

00:04:31.180 It was loud.

00:04:31.860 It was loud.

00:04:32.520 It was, I'm sure you got a few sidebar comments in there.

00:04:36.700 So tell us about what was yesterday.

00:04:38.520 Why is it important?

00:04:39.280 Well, this is all about Washington politicians not keeping their word, not keeping their promises.

00:04:44.620 And the American people are sick and tired of the BS that goes on up here in Washington.

00:04:49.800 And I remember, you know, in 2008, the market was crashing.

00:04:53.700 I had a two-year-old and was pregnant with the second kid, starting my own company.

00:04:57.360 I could not afford health insurance.

00:04:59.520 And COBRA was $1,500 a month for a family of four.

00:05:02.320 I remember seeing what was going on in Washington.

00:05:04.180 The same kind of spending, no accountability, no transparency, four powerful men in charge,

00:05:10.540 getting whatever they wanted and screwing the American people.

00:05:14.020 And I never thought I would be in Congress.

00:05:15.940 And so when I saw this go down in, you know, watching a former speaker in the conference say,

00:05:21.220 we're going to do things, we're going to follow the law.

00:05:23.100 And we have a law that says we're supposed to have a budget and 12 separate spending bills.

00:05:26.980 And we didn't follow through.

00:05:29.260 The conference, the leadership didn't follow through on that.

00:05:32.000 And there was this now emergency, and now we've got to do a CR like we always do.

00:05:36.360 That's not what we said we were going to do.

00:05:37.720 That's not following the law.

00:05:38.840 It's skirting the law and allows four very powerful people to have all the power.

00:05:43.560 And it doesn't give power back to the people.

00:05:45.180 What we did last night, what happened yesterday, was decentralizing that power and giving it back to the people.

00:05:50.540 And it's about broken promises.

00:05:52.100 Listen, before I go to Matt, you were on here, in fact, you were on here, I think, Thursday, by Skype from your office.

00:05:59.380 You say that he had lied to you on many occasions.

00:06:02.040 You also said something quite important, that you're in a swing to a purple district.

00:06:05.140 I am.

00:06:05.660 But these people are fiscally quite conservative.

00:06:08.980 Yes.

00:06:09.340 No matter what some of them, even their social or cultural leanings are.

00:06:12.900 Do you believe you represented their interest yesterday in that vote?

00:06:16.940 I do.

00:06:17.820 I do.

00:06:18.420 And it's a very fiscally conservative district.

00:06:20.420 It's socially sensible.

00:06:21.420 I certainly am not going to make everybody happy, especially those that are part of the establishment.

00:06:26.640 The establishment is coming after me.

00:06:29.400 I mean, 100 percent started last night.

00:06:31.680 And I need help.

00:06:32.860 I'm going to need help to get through this at NancyMace.org because they're coming for me.

00:06:37.780 But I would say in my district, you know, they when I express what I did and how I did it, I put a statement out last night talking about this isn't left versus right.

00:06:46.240 This is about telling the truth.

00:06:47.820 And the next speaker that we have needs to be someone who's not going to let the American people down, who will tell the truth and be honest, even when we disagree, someone who's going to keep their word.

00:06:57.240 That's what matters.

00:06:58.040 And from South Carolina, when you look a man in the eye and you shake his hand and you keep up your end of the bargain and he violates that promise, there are consequences.

00:07:07.860 Like, I just want someone who's going to be honest and tell the truth no matter what.

00:07:10.640 I think you said last week down in your district, your word is your bond.

00:07:14.340 It is.

00:07:14.680 And so that is what informed your decision yesterday because you hear the audible gas and the gas was even bigger on K Street because the lobbyists are – the knives are out.

00:07:24.860 Yeah, the knives are out for me and the other seven that voted for this.

00:07:29.480 But this was a principled vote.

00:07:30.960 It was a vote of conscience.

00:07:32.480 And it was about – when I was at the Citadel and when I went through that, they teach you about duty, doing the right thing no matter who is watching.

00:07:40.320 And I did my American duty to the American people.

00:07:42.800 I don't owe anything to D.C.

00:07:44.080 I don't owe anything to people in Washington.

00:07:46.540 I owe South Carolina.

00:07:47.820 I owe the people of this country to do the right thing no matter what.

00:07:51.980 You guys make the argument to the nation and to the party that you are the – you're the agents of principle.

00:07:59.060 You're saying it for principle.

00:08:00.060 Deals that were made – and these deals were made not willy-nilly because they had a – you had thought it through of how you get your hands around budgets, how you break the cartel, how the operation.

00:08:09.460 You don't do everything in the dark at night with CRs and omnibuses.

00:08:12.400 You walk through a whole process and you two guys were also balanced budget, all of it.

00:08:17.840 Why – answer the critics that are saying that you are – you ate, the hard ate are actually the agents of chaos and have thrown us into more chaos.

00:08:27.740 Well, first I want to say the posse won and the posse was attacked last night.

00:08:32.420 When Garrett Graves stood on the floor and criticized the people in this country who go to NancyMace.org or MattGates.com and donate $10 or $20, what they're trying to say is they're afraid of your collective agency.

00:08:45.980 They are worried that your ability to act as a force in American politics can become more important than the big steak dinners and the lobbyist fundraisers and the favors that are traded back and forth with political action committees.

00:09:02.920 And so that's heartening.

00:09:04.580 But I don't quite understand why so many people characterize our movement as – and by the way, people including the New York Times reporter you have sitting in the corner in the war room right now.

00:09:16.780 When they write about me, they say things like –

00:09:19.060 Kaboom! 0.99

00:09:19.860 They say things like hardliner, the hardliners.

00:09:23.400 Ultra mega.

00:09:24.080 Ultra mega.

00:09:24.760 Yeah, yeah, the far right.

00:09:26.780 Far right.

00:09:27.300 And I'm thinking, OK, look at who – let's talk about this for a moment.

00:09:32.480 OK?

00:09:33.040 Nancy is not a hard right, intransigent lawmaker. 1.00

00:09:39.980 But our Venn diagram overlaps around spending.

00:09:42.180 Didn't you vote to send me to federal prison for four months?

00:09:43.580 I like the constitution.

00:09:45.000 I'm a constitutionalist.

00:09:46.120 OK.

00:09:46.420 It's getting hot in here.

00:09:47.500 My appellate lawyer would disagree about that, but that's not a deal.

00:09:51.580 But our – Nancy is a fiscal hawk. 1.00

00:09:54.800 She's been a fiscal hawk the whole time.

00:09:56.620 And to get her to vote for the Limit Save Grow Bill, it was an open secret in this town that Kevin had to agree to bring her bill up for a balanced budget amendment.

00:10:05.220 Was that the deal?

00:10:06.380 Yeah.

00:10:06.640 I mean, balanced – well, he promised the deal to Matt Gaetz and then he promised it to me.

00:10:09.620 He made the same promise to different people.

00:10:11.040 Remember, that was the first deal that we were not happy with, the audience – but we went along.

00:10:14.600 That had the one-year, $1.5 trillion deficit.

00:10:17.740 We hated it but said, hey –

00:10:19.140 I didn't vote for it.

00:10:20.080 In the spirit of getting forward, you were OK.

00:10:23.060 Yeah.

00:10:23.240 I didn't vote for it.

00:10:23.960 But I can understand that Nancy leveraged her vote to get something that is really important to the American people up for consideration.

00:10:30.880 And I was heartened by that because Kevin had promised the 20 the same thing.

00:10:36.560 So I thought, well, this is great.

00:10:37.440 I didn't vote for the debt ceiling bill.

00:10:38.600 I mean, I've negotiated on other votes.

00:10:40.220 Like I warned everybody about the debt ceiling bill.

00:10:42.400 I warned everyone that Congress was not going to do what they promised they were going to do.

00:10:47.380 And it laid out exactly the way I said it was going.

00:10:50.320 This was predictable.

00:10:52.280 And it was a principal vote.

00:10:53.400 When they came back with the two-year deal.

00:10:55.060 When he came back with the two-year deal.

00:10:56.500 You're saying that the overall vote for the debt ceiling.

00:10:58.460 Yeah.

00:10:58.700 I mean, it was it was the original.

00:11:00.800 What's hard right about saying we should follow the law?

00:11:04.280 The law requires these single subject spending bills and a budget to be passed.

00:11:08.660 What's hard right about saying when you say 72 hours to read the bill, you don't get to waive that to pass a continuing resolution.

00:11:15.880 What's hard right about saying something that spends more than 100 million dollars should not go on the suspension agenda where it is not subject to amendment.

00:11:23.860 The things I am fighting for are good government and reasonable things.

00:11:28.700 I mean, I'm a centrist.

00:11:30.280 I would say small L libertarian, fiscally conservative, socially sensible.

00:11:33.720 Matt and I agree on like 98 percent of the things.

00:11:36.820 But it's not unreasonable to ask Congress just follow the law.

00:11:41.040 Law from 1974, the Budget Impact and Control Act says a budget and 12 spending bills.

00:11:46.340 Now, yeah, he and I are not going to agree with leadership or either side of the aisle on the amount they're going to spend.

00:11:50.480 They're going to spend way more than we would ever want.

00:11:52.020 But you still have a process where the bills are vetted.

00:11:54.760 They're amended.

00:11:55.780 The people have a say through their representative and then they're voted on the floor, not not the CRs and the omnibuses.

00:12:00.760 And we would vote different ways on some of these amendments.

00:12:03.980 And there's an interesting ability with with more voting and actual legislating much for coalitions to form.

00:12:11.000 Yes. And for us to work together and and it'll be OK if we take a lot of votes, if we're together on some things, debate against one another on others.

00:12:17.680 That's real governing.

00:12:18.740 And it never happens here because they delay everything, back you up against shutdown politics and then just get you to vote for a continuing resolution where the lobbyists are in charge of what's in it.

00:12:28.000 In fact, what was so illustrative last week in the middle of the night where we're doing these amendments like it should be done, each single subject.

00:12:35.600 I mean, you voted for the controversially, the 18 that voted for the drag queen story.

00:12:40.700 There were no drag queens mentioned, but if you're gay and you're willing to take a bullet for our country, I don't care how you celebrate. 1.00

00:12:46.280 And my point is you vote. You voted for your own time.

00:12:50.040 Yes, there was no government funding.

00:12:51.740 The coalition comes together on different aspects.

00:12:54.180 People argue. We only got a couple of minutes in this segment.

00:12:57.360 People said, hey, this thing by June or July, you knew this was a problem because the subcommittees essentially finished their work and you could move forward.

00:13:06.780 Two and a half months later, you return to the city and he says, you can't shut down the government because you're not going to get the impeachment process.

00:13:14.360 And we got it. And you guys then forced the hand to jam it through.

00:13:17.920 Could this been avoided if people had stood up back in July and said, hey, this is ridiculous.

00:13:22.940 You're trying to jam us again on a CR.

00:13:24.780 The fairest criticism is that we waited too long.

00:13:28.280 But this is the most blunt instrument we could use.

00:13:31.860 We did not.

00:13:32.620 None of us came to this decision lightly.

00:13:35.120 This weighed heavy on all of us.

00:13:36.900 And it still weighs heavy on all of us, which is, you know, when you have people coming after you, it's important to get support, that the grassroots show their support at mattgates.com and nancymace.org.

00:13:48.540 Big story, but they're coming after you particularly because they did not expect that year.

00:13:51.720 So that gas was – on K Street, I heard they went absolutely nuts.

00:13:56.900 Yeah, but I promised when I got elected, I was not – I didn't come here to tow the party line.

00:14:01.280 I came here to do the right thing for the American people and for South Carolina.

00:14:04.980 And it comes at a price sometimes.

00:14:07.480 Let's take a short commercial break.

00:14:08.820 We're in return.

00:14:09.480 We have two of the architects and the heroes of yesterday.

00:14:13.020 We're going to talk about where do we go?

00:14:15.040 How do we go forward?

00:14:15.700 We're also going to talk about Ukraine.

00:14:16.840 A lot of discussion of that is going to be quite difficult to get any funding.

00:14:21.120 As you know, we're the – we're not particularly enthusiastic about having an open southern border, an evasion of this country.

00:14:27.460 And we're focused on sending, what, $113 billion, another $80 billion they want to send this year to the fight over the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine.

00:14:37.440 Short commercial break.

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00:16:30.180 Okay.

00:16:30.680 Welcome back.

00:16:31.480 We're in the war room on a day.

00:16:34.020 We've got to talk about how we go forward here.

00:16:35.700 Just want to give you a heads up.

00:16:36.620 This is what – when Nancy Mace and Matt Gaetz talk about fiscal responsibility, when they talk about the crisis the country's in,

00:16:44.020 30-year mortgage, highest, I think, in 15 or 20 years, 8% a day.

00:16:52.940 10-year treasury, if we've taught the audience, the 10-year treasury kind of guides your life, almost 5%.

00:16:58.440 That's a 500 basis point increase from when President Trump was president and is crushing everybody.

00:17:04.420 60- to 70% of the American people live paycheck to paycheck.

00:17:08.040 How do they gap that?

00:17:09.060 A credit card.

00:17:10.200 APR credit cards right now are 27% and interest rates are going higher.

00:17:15.140 Jamie Dimon, the CEO of J.P. Morgan, said yesterday he thinks rates are going to go to – Fed rates are going to go to 7%.

00:17:21.940 That's 150 basis points.

00:17:24.080 That will crush you.

00:17:25.740 It will crush you, your family.

00:17:26.920 In fact, the student debt situation – and we're anti-paying off for anybody's student debt, but Biden and delaying it, the first payments they had are at the new higher interest rates.

00:17:37.400 I mean these people paying off the student debts and the credit cards.

00:17:39.940 If you're under 40 years old, you are a Russian serf. 1.00

00:17:43.300 You don't own anything and you're not going to own anything, and you're going to live as a debt slave the rest of your life.

00:17:47.660 That's the fiscal crisis this country has.

00:17:50.540 Why do conservative media – why do they still not get it?

00:17:53.480 They're saying it's all about nothing.

00:17:55.480 There's personal grudges.

00:17:57.120 It's – we can't understand what they're talking about, these arcane rules.

00:18:02.020 Why is it you think people can't – on our side of the football?

00:18:06.000 I mean yesterday you were magnificent and good and bigs, good going through his personal journey.

00:18:12.520 The counterside – I'm sitting there going – it's like RNC talking points.

00:18:16.180 I mean they were just – we're the most successful.

00:18:17.840 We've done more, and they talk about a couple of messaging bills.

00:18:20.940 What does –

00:18:21.500 One of the least productive congresses we've had in recent history.

00:18:24.020 And it's not arcane to follow the law, have a budget, have the spending bills.

00:18:27.360 Anyway, I misspoke on the last segment, the debt ceiling bill.

00:18:30.100 I did – that's when I negotiated the balanced budget amendment, not knowing you had already negotiated the same kind of deal because the debt ceiling bill was crap before that.

00:18:37.660 And I negotiated and got something out of it because I said we have to change the way we do business in Washington.

00:18:43.920 Does the leadership believe that this – do they understand what these interest rates mean on a 30-year mortgage?

00:18:48.960 They – 8 percent.

00:18:49.640 Do they understand?

00:18:50.140 8 percent.

00:18:50.340 You can't – the market is already –

00:18:52.000 Steve, we've had fewer mortgage origination since 1994 right now.

00:18:55.840 It's going to get worse.

00:18:56.640 Young people can't form the capital and make the monthly payment. 1.00

00:19:00.420 You're going to have a whole generation that are not homeowners.

00:19:03.300 Does the leadership –

00:19:03.880 It's impacting family formation.

00:19:05.160 I know a lot of millennials who would love to have a family, but the debt that they are in, the interest rates that they are facing, at times the house they can't leave, the starter home that becomes the forever home because of rising interest rates.

00:19:18.520 This is really impacting whether or not families are formed in our country.

00:19:22.660 What could be more important than that?

00:19:24.140 So this is about spending.

00:19:25.520 Does leadership understand that we're in a financial crisis and you can't go along and cut these type of deals like they do?

00:19:32.720 Well, if they didn't before, they do now.

00:19:34.500 Why?

00:19:34.620 After last night.

00:19:35.380 You think so?

00:19:35.880 Well, after last night, after the motion to vacate.

00:19:38.740 But I'll tell you, a couple weeks ago I took the kids to the grocery store when we had district work period in August.

00:19:44.840 And I told the kids, meat, fruit, and vegetables, no junk food, almost $500.

00:19:49.020 And so for a family of four, over the course of a month, that's about $2,000 in groceries.

00:19:55.520 That's before even going out to eat.

00:19:57.400 And I'm like, the average family, you cannot afford that.

00:20:00.060 And no one is addressing it.

00:20:02.600 You have a budget.

00:20:03.480 You have 12 spending bills that can be vetted and amended and be more responsibly put together and have the people have a voice.

00:20:09.780 It'll get better.

00:20:10.720 And that's what we forced last night.

00:20:11.820 We forced that last night.

00:20:13.420 People, why are we?

00:20:14.720 Well, hold on.

00:20:15.380 Hold on.

00:20:15.580 Let me present.

00:20:16.700 I hope that's true.

00:20:18.120 I really hope what Nancy said is true.

00:20:20.060 I'm being hopeful.

00:20:20.560 I worry that there is another economic condition that predominates over these challenges of the American family.

00:20:27.340 Kevin McCarthy was expected to raise another $300 million for Republican campaign coffers between now and the upcoming election.

00:20:35.760 And one of the largest questions for a lot of members in frontline districts is, well, who's going to go raise that money now?

00:20:43.040 Who is going to ensure that we have the resources to campaign?

00:20:46.820 I mean, I live in a district where, you know, the primary is sometimes more competitive than the general.

00:20:52.060 And when I was hearing what it costs you to run a campaign, it was shocking to me.

00:20:56.980 I mean, that is a huge sum of money.

00:20:59.520 It's a huge sum of money.

00:21:00.680 And running a campaign in Charleston, South Carolina, like running one in New York, and in some cases more expensive.

00:21:05.560 And we can't win the majority without these districts.

00:21:07.720 I won by one point when I came into Congress.

00:21:10.460 Won by one point.

00:21:11.380 Why are you – you people in the last week after you shot the first ER, it was 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:21:18.100 And many – we were live on Getter.

00:21:19.760 We had 25, 30, 40,000 people watching that time of the morning these debates.

00:21:25.260 Why are you not here?

00:21:26.300 What's the mentality of leadership to say, go home?

00:21:29.980 Why didn't you immediately go into –

00:21:31.940 I agree with Matt on this.

00:21:32.760 We should have kept working.

00:21:33.820 I mean, there's some misinformation out there.

00:21:36.500 We can continue investigations right now.

00:21:38.280 We can have committee hearings.

00:21:39.780 We can't do floor work.

00:21:41.020 But we can continue the committee process right now.

00:21:44.580 We could be electing a speaker today or tomorrow.

00:21:46.700 We could be working this week.

00:21:47.860 And I would stay up here and get it done and move us forward as rapidly as possible.

00:21:51.780 Was this an establishment ploy to let K Street regroup and think through what they're going to do, get everybody out of town?

00:21:57.320 What happened was such a shock to the system.

00:22:00.680 Everyone needed to go home and have a good cry and do the hand-wringing and the bedwetting.

00:22:06.020 But I agree with Nancy.

00:22:08.400 We have to keep our focus now on the mission.

00:22:11.120 Do not allow the posse to get punch drunk as if we have achieved the summit.

00:22:15.840 No, no, no.

00:22:16.460 We've got to be at the ramparts.

00:22:17.180 Right now, there is a massive power vacuum in this country.

00:22:21.780 Unlike we have seen in my lifetime, really.

00:22:24.480 And we want that to be filled with people who will hold to the spending guard rails and hold to their word with all members.

00:22:32.080 And I really, really think that will be our central focus.

00:22:34.640 And it's a problem that we have this power vacuum.

00:22:35.980 There should be plenty of people that could fill the spot immediately.

00:22:40.660 Well, we could be having candidate form.

00:22:42.300 Like today, we could have people in conference saying, here's my vision.

00:22:46.220 We could be having our appropriations committee getting every single one of those 12 bills in order ready for the floor.

00:22:54.260 We could do it right now.

00:22:55.920 And they're not doing it because they're more worried about how to absorb the shock to the system than they are the actual moving forward of the agenda and the priorities of the American people in some cases.

00:23:07.320 Because this started in January – it actually started before that.

00:23:09.860 But let's say in January when you went, it was a set of principles.

00:23:13.980 The debate galvanized in the 14 rounds, galvanized the nation to watch.

00:23:18.780 But even people were sitting there.

00:23:20.000 It was about a toolbox, right?

00:23:22.060 Are those principles still the guiding light of what you guys are fighting for today?

00:23:27.720 Is that still – as we go through the process of selecting a speaker, is it the individual that's more important or the ability to trust them on their word that they will follow the set of principles that we need to address the fiscal crisis in this country?

00:23:43.720 It's both.

00:23:44.340 It's someone who will stay true to their word to the American people and also follow the law.

00:23:49.340 It's not – I mean we're just asking Congress, just follow the law.

00:23:53.100 I mean we're going to agree to disagree on any number of issues.

00:23:55.900 Sometimes we're together.

00:23:56.700 Sometimes we're not.

00:23:57.840 Sometimes the other side wins.

00:23:59.180 Sometimes we do.

00:24:00.200 But we're just asking folks, the leadership, to just follow the law and keep their promises.

00:24:05.040 I mean it's time to stop breaking promises to the American people and that's what it's about and being responsible with how we spend our nation's money.

00:24:13.080 I don't want to do – yeah, go ahead.

00:24:14.660 Because we want single-subject spending bills and a budget, we are deemed the agents of chaos.

00:24:19.940 It's crazy.

00:24:20.600 Anarchist is what they call us.

00:24:21.420 Well, they said last – when I heard last night, they were working internally about a rules package that's going to be – they said they're never going to put themselves in this situation again.

00:24:29.080 They will never put themselves in a situation where, according to the New York Times, the ultra-mega hard right, right?

00:24:36.040 Well, I mean I've got a message for all of the establishment Republicans who think they're changing the rules.

00:24:42.280 You don't have the votes no matter who the speaker is, right?

00:24:45.000 So all these mods who are saying like, oh, well, we want the one-person motion to vacate to go away to vote for X, Y, or Z for speaker.

00:24:51.820 The problem is they will never get to 218 on that.

00:24:55.280 So let's focus – I think Nancy is right.

00:24:57.400 You want an honest person.

00:24:58.880 You want a person that has a vision that can help people get elected in districts that are very purple but that also inspire the folks who are making the phone calls, making the donations, and really driving our country to a more prosperous place.

00:25:14.360 Not just pick up those – but we probably left 20 on the table in 22.

00:25:18.100 You're saying that –

00:25:18.740 Oh, for sure.

00:25:19.140 You're saying that to pick those up also.

00:25:21.060 How do you do that without Kevin McCarthy's $300 million?

00:25:23.640 Well, I think that if we do a better job –

00:25:27.020 By the way, Garrett Graves held your phone up.

00:25:28.660 You're getting – what, your average donation is $13, $14 from the posse?

00:25:33.280 $38 is our average donation, $38, and happy for every penny.

00:25:38.980 I don't think there's any amount too small.

00:25:40.600 Because you don't take corporate money.

00:25:41.640 You don't take lobbyist money, right?

00:25:42.920 No, I don't.

00:25:44.080 But I think going forward, we need that great combination like Nancy talked about.

00:25:49.060 We need to see people emerge.

00:25:50.360 I guess we're seeing breaking news that Jim Jordan is about to announce a bid.

00:25:53.640 Yeah, Jake Sherman I think is doing a good job over a punch bowl.

00:25:55.860 He's saying Scalise is going to be a bowl challenger, but Jim Jordan is inching – his people are saying he's inching towards a speaker's bid, right?

00:26:02.700 So you have two prominent – I mean Scalise would be naturally – that would be the logical order if you wanted the same apparatus to run you, that leadership team.

00:26:10.640 Yeah, I think we would want to hear their vision.

00:26:12.020 I'm not going to speak for Matt, but I think we've talked about it.

00:26:13.940 We're both open to who the next speaker is.

00:26:16.360 I mean we're not asking for a lot.

00:26:18.620 I mean just being responsible and telling the truth.

00:26:21.640 That bar – that's the low bar. 0.50

00:26:23.700 I mean that's bare minimum.

00:26:24.860 Can we get one more block out of you guys or you got a punch?

00:26:27.040 I think I'm good.

00:26:27.740 Okay, fine.

00:26:28.120 So what happens if people don't come back – this is going to wait until Tuesday.

00:26:39.180 Are you guys – they're setting you up to get blamed for another CR.

00:26:42.940 They're going to come back and say after the speaker fight –

00:26:44.900 Oh, they started that immediately last night.

00:26:46.680 So are you – have you – according to a certain conservative news network, you guys are guaranteeing we're going to have omnibus.

00:26:54.080 What's your response to that?

00:26:55.060 Well, this didn't have to happen.

00:26:56.720 This didn't have to go down this way.

00:26:58.140 We've had all year to do this.

00:26:59.580 But it did go down.

00:27:00.420 They did four.

00:27:01.140 They did 70 percent.

00:27:02.100 But it did –

00:27:02.480 70 percent of the government's budget we did in a week.

00:27:05.060 But it did –

00:27:05.340 So we have 30 percent left to do.

00:27:07.500 It can be done in the next two weeks.

00:27:08.840 What the argument was, it was the fourth quarter and the coaches stay in?

00:27:12.460 Do you buy that argument?

00:27:12.820 A manufactured crisis to do a CR.

00:27:15.000 In what world is the first 48 hours of the new CR you just passed the fourth quarter?

00:27:21.440 I'm dying for someone to explain that to me because –

00:27:24.180 We have 45 days.

00:27:24.680 I mean the reason we didn't wait and let this languish is because we understand we're on the clock for 45 days.

00:27:29.780 So I went right in on Monday.

00:27:31.260 We ripped the Band-Aid off, had the vote, and we're ready to go.

00:27:34.060 We're ready to work.

00:27:34.860 And it's disappointing that our colleagues aren't here.

00:27:36.720 One of the reasons –

00:27:37.140 We're not hitting pause on the committee work.

00:27:38.640 We could be – we're here to work.

00:27:40.040 Okay.

00:27:40.380 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:27:41.880 The two congressmen have agreed to stay for another block.

00:27:45.160 Short commercial break.

00:27:46.420 Back.

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00:29:44.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:51.700 Okay.

00:29:52.280 Welcome back.

00:29:54.540 Can we get there?

00:29:56.180 They're going to blame the next CR on you guys.

00:29:59.580 So we're what?

00:30:00.160 We've got 40 days now or 43 days.

00:30:02.820 You haven't picked a speaker.

00:30:04.000 The Senate hasn't done anything.

00:30:05.680 Where are we in that process?

00:30:07.020 How can we represent the people that are out there that have your back on the fiscal crisis side that you can actually help organize this thing and then move forward quickly?

00:30:17.020 Well, we have just under 45 days to be able to do that.

00:30:20.000 We just did four appropriations bills, four spending bills.

00:30:22.960 That was 70 percent of government funding in like two weeks.

00:30:26.460 So we've got plenty of time to get the last 30 percent of the government funded over the next 40 or so days.

00:30:33.340 It can be done.

00:30:34.360 If there's a will, there's a way.

00:30:35.840 And as we were just talking about, this is an opportunity for us to be united and strong and have the wind at our backs going into the next spending fight.

00:30:43.640 We've got to get over the French work week.

00:30:46.040 We can't do this, you know, show up on Tuesday, leave on Thursday or Friday morning.

00:30:50.920 They do that because they want a set of crises, right, that has these –

00:30:54.740 It's slowing down the process.

00:30:55.740 We could be here right now.

00:30:56.720 They use those stops as to force you in to just do CRs, do omnibus.

00:31:03.420 Well, they don't want stuff like this to happen because if we have the various thoughts throughout the conference and the various people meeting together and talking together,

00:31:12.880 the leadership becomes less powerful.

00:31:15.240 So the whole strategy has been, you know, not allow the collaboration that would allow the membership's viewpoint to really predominate over, you know,

00:31:23.660 what the people who donate the most money to the leadership would say.

00:31:25.940 But there's a – if the rest of these bills are done, right, and they come out –

00:31:30.180 They're not done.

00:31:30.820 No, no, no.

00:31:31.200 I'm saying the rest of the appropriations –

00:31:32.380 Like why isn't the appropriations committee meeting this week to get every single one of these bills in one?

00:31:37.320 They could meet today.

00:31:37.820 I mean they could meet today.

00:31:38.580 One of the lies being told right now is that everything has to come to a halt.

00:31:42.220 It doesn't.

00:31:43.060 The appropriations committee can meet today.

00:31:45.360 Oversight can meet today.

00:31:46.500 Judiciary can meet today.

00:31:47.400 We could have another impeachment inquiry hearing today.

00:31:50.020 But instead, they've hit pause.

00:31:51.920 We don't have to do that.

00:31:52.660 We could move forward right now on the spending bills and get this over with.

00:31:55.340 When you get these spending bills –

00:31:57.100 That is the most important point that has been made on this program.

00:31:59.740 No, no, no.

00:32:00.360 Yeah, no.

00:32:01.400 They did this to regroup because they're in a state of shock.

00:32:04.020 They never thought that you could hurt when the gas – when you took your vote.

00:32:07.940 The K Street guys, the lobbyists, the cartel is regrouping.

00:32:11.260 But like the nerve of these establishment Republicans to have to take a week to go have a good cry and then blame us for being the reason that we can't get the work done.

00:32:21.320 All we want to do is the work.

00:32:23.180 We had to oust Kevin McCarthy because he was a barrier to completing that work.

00:32:26.880 And now everybody has got to go take a seven-day pause.

00:32:30.480 It is not just.

00:32:31.920 Looking downrange, when the Senate comes back with theirs, they haven't done any work yet.

00:32:35.980 When they come back with their appropriations, the bid and the ask on those two bills on appropriations is going to be a pretty big gap.

00:32:42.040 That negotiation itself.

00:32:43.720 Well, that negotiation is going to come down to are you willing to take more conservative policy in exchange for a higher spending number, right?

00:32:51.280 Yeah, absolutely.

00:32:52.860 And look, Chuck Schumer has 70 percent of the spending bills in his inbox right now.

00:32:57.260 Those negotiations could happen.

00:32:59.040 We voted for the DOD appropriations.

00:33:00.940 Veterans.

00:33:01.340 Bills.

00:33:01.720 Veterans.

00:33:02.280 We voted to give a pay raise to our military.

00:33:04.360 You could actually be in conference right now on those bills themselves.

00:33:07.060 Yeah.

00:33:07.220 Absolutely.

00:33:07.780 Oh, 100 percent.

00:33:08.460 Even if the Senate didn't pass bills, they could come and conference our veterans bill and our defense bill.

00:33:13.340 By the way, they've done that in the past.

00:33:14.660 The Senate has been willing to come and conference a bill when they haven't passed one and conference off the House bill.

00:33:20.340 So let's get to the business of doing that.

00:33:22.380 So the apparatus is holding that back.

00:33:24.340 And the purpose is they want to omnibus.

00:33:26.680 They want to jam into the end of the year.

00:33:28.620 The establishment is trying to force that by the end of this thing.

00:33:32.260 That's why.

00:33:32.780 I mean, why else would they not be here doing the work of the people right now?

00:33:36.120 So you're saying they're delaying on purpose.

00:33:37.900 You guys today would call everybody back.

00:33:39.900 Everybody get to work on the appropriations.

00:33:41.640 You're also talking about Peter.

00:33:42.840 Let's talk about it in a second.

00:33:43.500 The arguments they made yesterday, most successful, we've got government, you know, the government weaponization.

00:33:49.940 We've got the covid.

00:33:51.040 We've got oversight.

00:33:53.340 You we played your highlight when when Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec in a five or six hour impeachment hearing.

00:34:00.780 The only clip they put out was your clip.

00:34:04.080 That tells me probably not a great day.

00:34:06.300 And you were spectacular.

00:34:07.600 But, you know, talk to me about that.

00:34:09.480 I'm going to take that as I'm going to take that as a compliment.

00:34:11.160 No, no, no.

00:34:12.020 We played it a couple of times.

00:34:13.500 Because there was nothing else to show is is the impeachment going to get with this change in leadership?

00:34:19.440 Because I'm hearing from my sources that Kevin McCarthy and that team around him purposely held back judiciary, purposely held back oversight.

00:34:27.660 This is the reason we don't have subpoenas.

00:34:29.560 You've been over Treasury a number of times.

00:34:31.760 You said it's 40, 50 million.

00:34:33.180 You said the the sex trafficking portfolio on Hunter is that millions of dollars.

00:34:38.100 Millions of dollars.

00:34:38.660 And I'm not I'm like I'm accused of being a conspiracy theorist, but all the whistleblowers have verified that it existed and he was trying to write it off on his taxes.

00:34:47.060 So the problem is previous to yesterday, conservatives were told one thing about impeachment.

00:34:52.400 Mods were told moderates were told another thing.

00:34:54.700 So, again, hang on for a second.

00:34:56.060 Explain that.

00:34:56.720 What do you mean by that?

00:34:57.300 Well, I mean, conservatives were were guaranteed an impeachment.

00:35:01.080 Moderates were guaranteed there would be no impeachment.

00:35:03.200 And so that is actually told there's going to be no.

00:35:04.920 Correct. Yes.

00:35:05.920 And so that's why it's so important for the next speaker to be honest, someone that we can trust, who will tell us the truth, even when we disagree, someone that we can depend on and know we're going to get the truth out of this individual.

00:35:17.340 So I want us to follow the evidence and wherever it leads us.

00:35:20.960 And those investigations, we could have another impeachment inquiry hearing right now, today, this week and move forward.

00:35:26.720 But we're not.

00:35:27.380 Well, how do you keep the contradictory promises of there will be an impeachment and there won't be an impeachment?

00:35:32.380 Start an impeachment and then neuter that impeachment of the tools necessary for it to be successful.

00:35:38.060 That seems to be what Kevin McCarthy's regime did because they were not.

00:35:43.080 Look, I am a litigator.

00:35:44.600 OK, I have done complex class action cases.

00:35:47.460 I've done cases that involve a whole lot of financial documents.

00:35:50.720 You have to get the paper moving immediately and you have to start sending the subpoenas because you need a duration of time to litigate those and at times change the scope of your requests.

00:36:01.180 Negotiate guardrails on testimony.

00:36:03.240 This stuff happens all the time, but we haven't even begun the process.

00:36:06.580 And I compare that to the systematized, regimented, disciplined way that the January 6th committee pursued everyone with great vigor that they had any interest in.

00:36:17.560 And, you know, we have got to have a moment of reflection about where we stand with our oversight and the impeachment matter.

00:36:25.220 I agree. Nancy did a great job. 0.98

00:36:27.660 I think Byron Donalds did a great job in that hearing as well.

00:36:30.540 But, I mean, we weren't sending our best.

00:36:35.080 Do we have do we have subpoenas already?

00:36:38.300 Go ahead. Are there things that can help that investigation move rapidly with the change in leadership?

00:36:43.680 Or are we really starting at the beginning because the details and the facts that were laid out the other day, we've known so much of this from you coming on the show and from us reporting it and being the laptop from hell.

00:36:54.520 Are there subpoenas?

00:36:55.420 Is this going to get serious with not just a change in leadership, but a mentality on the committee?

00:37:00.100 I'm not going to speak for the chairman, but I'll tell you, I do believe the subpoenas are ready to go.

00:37:04.300 And it's a matter of when we're going to do this.

00:37:06.880 But I want I want every whistleblower in oversight.

00:37:09.580 I want witnesses.

00:37:10.480 And most importantly, I want the bookkeeper because the bookkeeper knows where all the bodies are buried and will be able to connect the dots.

00:37:18.000 As the Ukrainians said, the executive said it was such a complex web of money laundering.

00:37:23.320 It'll take 10 years for the federal government to figure it out.

00:37:26.460 And so that bookkeeper to me is going to be the key to the entire puzzle.

00:37:31.560 And that's who I want to have the untouchables. 1.00

00:37:33.400 The bookkeepers, the guys, keeps all the secrets real quickly.

00:37:38.700 We only got time.

00:37:39.500 Ukraine.

00:37:40.820 This came down.

00:37:42.060 Ukraine was a big deal about this.

00:37:43.580 There's all types of in the capitals of the world.

00:37:45.800 They're saying, hey, is the U.S. going to cut off money to Ukraine?

00:37:48.580 Can Ukraine go forward?

00:37:50.000 Well, I give a tremendous amount of credit to Marjorie Taylor Greene because she crowbarred 300 million dollars to Ukraine in away from the defense funding bill.

00:38:00.320 And she demanded an individual vote on that money and she got that vote.

00:38:04.140 And when that vote occurred, there were 101 Republicans who supported that money to Ukraine, 117, including the two of us, who opposed that additional money to Ukraine.

00:38:14.560 And so now funding for Ukraine has lost the support of the majority of the majority.

00:38:20.260 Is that a key?

00:38:21.000 Is that what?

00:38:21.720 Will that be key to a new leader that they're going to have to guarantee that Hastert rule?

00:38:26.000 Yeah, since Denny Hastert, the rule has been you don't roll a majority of the majority with Democrats on a policy bill like that.

00:38:33.480 And then Kevin McCarthy did it with the last Ukraine money.

00:38:36.600 And then if you if you believe Joe Biden and even some of the background reporting that came out of the Republican leadership offices, Kevin McCarthy had made another side deal on Ukraine, despite the fact that the Hastert rule had been broken.

00:38:48.680 So we were there early against the funding of this conflict.

00:38:53.280 And I think it says something about the quality of our arguments and also the the American people being the leading indicator that now the lagging indicator of Congress has caught up with with the with the appropriations not being done.

00:39:06.280 Are you are you going to say the House shouldn't take up any of these supplementals whatsoever that should be outside the process, past the budget?

00:39:12.980 I'm against any and all supplementals at this point.

00:39:15.320 I mean, again, I called it in May during the debt ceiling fight.

00:39:17.500 I said they're going to try to end run around the spending with emergency supplementals.

00:39:21.900 They'll create and manufacture an emergency, a crisis to do an omnibus, a minibus, another CR and supplementals.

00:39:28.060 That is what they always do.

00:39:29.480 But we have got to disrupt that cycle.

00:39:31.640 We have to do what's right for the American people.

00:39:33.280 The American people have been begging for single subject up or down votes on spending for decades.

00:39:39.360 And we have we have a huge opportunity to show you.

00:39:42.640 You're saying it's all going to go in there.

00:39:44.080 Can't be later.

00:39:45.040 Any supplementals where they got hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:39:47.500 Just follow the law and do the right thing.

00:39:49.740 Spend more money now with the expectation of cuts later is how we got to this place.

00:39:54.920 And we're kind of done betting on the come.

00:39:58.020 We got a couple of minutes.

00:39:59.320 They're coming after you like nobody's been coming after him and Rosendale and these guys.

00:40:03.560 But that's you.

00:40:05.220 They're coming after hard because they never expected that.

00:40:07.140 And that rattled their narrative that this is only a bunch of super hard right people.

00:40:11.120 You're you're known as a moderate.

00:40:13.240 Maverick.

00:40:13.700 I think she's more of a maverick.

00:40:15.040 But I told people when I got elected, I would not toe the party line when I disagree.

00:40:19.600 When I agree with Republicans, I will support them.

00:40:22.140 And when I disagree, I'm going to call them out.

00:40:23.800 I have always been that way.

00:40:25.560 I do need help because they're coming after me.

00:40:27.420 So if you can go to Nancy Mace dot org and ship in a dollar or thirteen dollars or whatever,

00:40:32.380 whatever it is.

00:40:33.160 But they've threatened to dry up all my money.

00:40:35.460 And talk about how that works.

00:40:37.380 Oh, gosh.

00:40:38.020 Well, I mean, I've had multiple members previous to the vote last night threatened to withhold

00:40:42.320 fundraising if I took this vote.

00:40:44.880 And to me, this was principled as a conscience.

00:40:46.320 People don't understand what the pressure is.

00:40:47.780 Talk about what's the pressure.

00:40:48.700 It's a huge amount of pressure.

00:40:50.160 And then, you know, like the former speaker called my staff rather than call me.

00:40:54.120 I didn't have to be able to do it or a man up to do it.

00:40:56.620 But then they call your staff and they scare them.

00:40:58.780 And then, you know, everyone is sort of frightened and scurrying around.

00:41:01.180 I was like, no, we're going to do the right thing no matter what.

00:41:03.220 That is what I promised the American people.

00:41:05.320 But now we're for real.

00:41:06.680 I mean, they are making huge threats to us because I'm anti-establishment.

00:41:10.620 I came here saying I'm not going to follow the party line and I'm actually doing it.

00:41:15.380 And there are grave repercussions for it.

00:41:18.540 What's the way forward?

00:41:19.400 Give me a minute on that.

00:41:20.280 What's the way forward here on the speaker hunt and all that?

00:41:22.460 Well, we want to I'm going to talk to anyone who wants to be speaker.

00:41:25.760 I'm going to sit down with them and have that conversation and and feel them out.

00:41:30.080 Are they going to commit to the promises that were made to the conference earlier this year?

00:41:34.140 Are they going to commit to those things, being responsible, following the law?

00:41:37.200 And are they going to be honest?

00:41:39.300 Because we need someone who isn't going to go back on their work.

00:41:43.460 So you're taking you're taking a principal stand back to the original principles that are guaranteed in this country,

00:41:47.600 in Congress and somebody can look you in the eye, like in South Carolina.

00:41:51.760 Your words, your bonds.

00:41:52.580 Even when we don't even when we disagree, it's OK.

00:41:54.580 We're all adults here.

00:41:55.600 We can have that debate.

00:41:56.620 We can agree to disagree and move on.

00:41:58.000 I don't want to be lied to anymore.

00:41:59.120 I'm done with that.

00:41:59.900 One more social media and how they get to you.

00:42:01.920 Nancy Mace.

00:42:02.400 They want to hit you with a ten dollar bill.

00:42:04.160 Well, on online.

00:42:05.220 The handle is Nancy Mace and the website is Nancy Mace dot org.

00:42:09.200 Where do we go from here?

00:42:11.720 We have to keep the momentum.

00:42:13.540 We have to understand what chapter we're in in the book.

00:42:16.380 We're not at the end.

00:42:17.580 It's not time to fold it up and put it away.

00:42:20.020 We now have to continue to drive these shared policy goals.

00:42:23.220 And I think we need to listen to, you know, in the coming days, I'm not going to be out

00:42:27.180 there trying to force a particular candidate down anyone's throat.

00:42:30.100 I want to hear a vision and I want to be inspired.

00:42:32.320 And, you know, Steve, there's some providence in this as well.

00:42:34.980 And my wife is a former worship leader.

00:42:38.740 And when I got home last night and I was going through, could this person do it or that person

00:42:42.620 do it?

00:42:43.120 She says, the Bible has all these stories of in these moments of providence, leaders emerge.

00:42:49.680 And sometimes they come from, you know, places you don't expect.

00:42:53.140 And sometimes people become a version of themselves that they were not before because the time calls

00:42:59.200 for it.

00:42:59.560 And so there's a part of this that I think is defined by providence.

00:43:03.640 Defined providence.

00:43:04.580 Real quickly, where do people go to your to your site to?

00:43:07.440 MacGates.com.

00:43:08.340 I appreciate everyone being a part of the fight.

00:43:10.020 And I'm at MacGates and at Rep MacGates everywhere on the Internet.

00:43:13.700 A day in history yesterday that will not be forgotten for a long time.

00:43:16.940 Massive tectonic plate shift here in the imperial capital.

00:43:20.340 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:43:21.440 Thank you.

00:43:21.920 Two guys.

00:43:23.100 Quite heroic and incredibly dramatic.

00:43:25.720 So good luck.

00:43:26.840 Going to be very tough.

00:43:28.120 Fight's just starting.

00:43:29.560 Congressman Nancy Mesa, South Carolina, and Matt Gaetz of Florida.

00:43:32.440 We'll be back after a short commercial break.

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00:45:23.140 Okay, I want to thank Congressman Nancy Mace and Matt Gaetz for taking so much time today

00:45:28.600 to explain everything.

00:45:29.320 It's a, for the war and policy, up to the ramparts, 202-225-3121.

00:45:34.420 Take the list, call and give an attaboy to the patriots that stood in the breach.

00:45:39.060 And also, particularly in the red districts, in these MAGA districts, 0.72

00:45:43.440 if you could please make a phone call and just, you know, put a query out there.

00:45:48.580 Particularly when you saw the really feeble defense of the McCarthy rule,

00:45:55.140 the McCarthy reign yesterday by, you know, all these 10 speakers that said nothing,

00:45:58.780 just talking points.

00:46:00.200 Murdoch News talking points.

00:46:02.640 We're joined now by Congressman Matt Rosendale from Montana.

00:46:06.380 Sir, can you tell us about, where do you think we are now?

00:46:09.780 Given that we know the establishment has sent you, why are you guys sent home?

00:46:13.520 I don't understand.

00:46:14.460 Shouldn't we be doing appropriations bills right now?

00:46:16.500 Shouldn't we be doing, shouldn't we be doing the impeachment hearing,

00:46:19.820 another impeachment hearing again today?

00:46:22.100 In Montana, is this the way you folks work out in Montana?

00:46:25.120 No, we stay until the job is done.

00:46:27.360 It doesn't matter what hour, the day or night, we stay until the job is done.

00:46:31.860 And quite frankly, that's the most disappointing part of all of this.

00:46:36.600 It's like there is absolutely no reason that we can't continue this work.

00:46:41.520 It's like these guys are looking for any reason to delay the appropriations process, Steve.

00:46:48.360 This is one of the major reasons that we ended up removing McCarthy yesterday

00:46:55.680 because he, I truly believe, intentionally delayed the appropriations process.

00:47:02.420 It was supposed to be completed on June 30, the Budget Act of 1974.

00:47:07.460 June 30, we were supposed to complete the appropriation bill

00:47:10.220 so that we can transfer them over to the Senate

00:47:12.160 so that before we get to the September 30 deadline for the fiscal year,

00:47:16.840 that we've been able to develop those 12 appropriation bills

00:47:22.320 and show the public transparently and responsibly how we're going to fund government.

00:47:28.900 Every state legislature does it, and there's no reason that we cannot do it.

00:47:34.580 And so, yeah, I'd like to stay here and continue that process

00:47:37.860 because guess what? 45 days is going to roll around really quick.

00:47:41.600 Everybody's going to be thinking about turkey dinner and Thanksgiving,

00:47:44.480 and there we are going to be at the end of yet another continuing resolution.

00:47:50.680 You know, the big platforms in conservative media today

00:47:54.800 are calling you guys arsonists, agents of chaos.

00:47:57.820 These are people that call themselves conservatives are coming after you

00:48:03.840 and the rest of the hard eight that really led this revolution

00:48:08.000 and stood in the breach yesterday saying you're anything but conservatives.

00:48:11.780 Do you have a response to that?

00:48:13.360 Oh, yeah.

00:48:14.560 I really don't care to be lectured by people that have spent 20 years or more

00:48:20.280 around this city and have managed the $33 trillion national debt

00:48:25.740 that we're facing right now to lecture me about how we should be running things.

00:48:30.880 I think maybe we should give the guys that are just getting here

00:48:33.600 the ability to try and make some changes and do it a different way.

00:48:39.920 So where do we go from here?

00:48:41.920 I think now Jim Jordan announced, his people are announcing

00:48:45.080 that he's going to run for Speaker.

00:48:46.420 Scalise is out there.

00:48:47.300 There's other names popping up.

00:48:49.340 You can have a half a dozen.

00:48:51.760 I'm not asking you to choose a side here or a tribe,

00:48:55.280 but how do you see this thing unfolding?

00:48:57.020 Since the establishment sent everybody home,

00:48:59.300 I know the audience finds this unbelievable, until Tuesday.

00:49:03.060 That means there's going to be some sort of lengthy

00:49:04.520 or at least some sort of speaker fight. 0.50

00:49:06.620 And then before you guys can get back to work with the clock ticking

00:49:09.340 on the 47 days, before you not only have to pass it yourself,

00:49:13.580 you have to sit down with the Senate,

00:49:14.520 you actually have to get an agreed-upon budget and agreed-upon appropriations bill.

00:49:20.320 How do you see this thing unfolding?

00:49:22.440 So one thing I will tell you is I'm really, really pleased

00:49:25.260 that now that the king is gone,

00:49:28.180 that people are raising their hands and saying that they're interested in the position.

00:49:32.320 This is where we were back in January.

00:49:34.660 We couldn't keep everyone together to stop negotiating long enough

00:49:38.920 to gather some more people to push those votes

00:49:42.480 and keep Kevin McCarthy from becoming speaker.

00:49:46.380 And until that happened, folks were not willing to put their hand up

00:49:50.920 because they knew that the retribution that would probably be imposed upon them

00:49:55.140 was more than they could stand.

00:49:57.580 And now we have been able to get him removed,

00:50:00.760 and there's a lot of people sitting their hands up.

00:50:02.660 That's great. There will not be a coronation.

00:50:05.420 There will be a discussion, a debate,

00:50:07.180 and the number one characteristic and trait that I'm looking for

00:50:10.840 is someone who's trustworthy, okay?

00:50:13.480 Someone who's a committed, principled individual

00:50:16.880 that when they have a discussion with the conference

00:50:19.420 and they say, this is what we're going to do,

00:50:22.740 and they're in the conference room with us in private,

00:50:25.940 that when they go in and speak with Hakeem Jeffries

00:50:29.180 or Chuck Schumer or President Biden, that guess what?

00:50:33.500 They tell them the same thing.

00:50:35.240 And then they have the intestinal fortitude to stick with that.

00:50:38.500 And the country will be much better served.

00:50:40.900 And so that's the first thing that I'm looking for in the next speaker.

00:50:45.080 And that will make this process go better.

00:50:47.100 I also think everybody needs to think about this.

00:50:49.620 The vast majority of our work has been done.

00:50:53.100 We're talking about 70% of the appropriation bills of the funding,

00:50:58.740 not the bills themselves, but the number, okay?

00:51:02.160 We're looking at, and when you throw in the mandatory spending

00:51:05.700 that they have shifted over to the side

00:51:08.680 that nobody really gets to work on,

00:51:11.840 we're left with about $400 billion

00:51:15.960 of the $6.7, $6.9 trillion in spending.

00:51:21.880 We're left with about $400 billion

00:51:23.680 that needs to be addressed and appropriated

00:51:26.340 in those remaining eight bills.

00:51:28.800 There is no reason that we can't get that wrapped up

00:51:32.660 in a few weeks' time, no reason whatsoever,

00:51:35.580 and get this over to the Senate.

00:51:37.620 And then we're going to need to have some, again,

00:51:40.720 intestinal fortitude, commitment to say,

00:51:43.040 this is what we will and what we will not accept.

00:51:48.000 Congressman Gates, can you hang on for a second

00:51:49.860 or take a short commercial break here?

00:51:51.280 I've got a couple more.

00:51:52.980 I'm the handsome one.

00:51:54.560 I'm sorry.

00:51:56.540 We've got a couple more questions.

00:51:58.380 Particularly certain conservative news organizations

00:52:01.720 are making the accusations that the constituents,

00:52:05.320 this is too complicated for them,

00:52:06.680 they really don't understand these details,

00:52:08.400 it's too much in the weeds.

00:52:09.380 So when we return from commercial break,

00:52:12.300 I want to ask you about that and the folks out in Montana

00:52:15.120 who have been great followers of the show

00:52:18.000 and a big part of our audience,

00:52:19.620 we're going to take a short break.

00:52:21.340 Congressman Matt Rosendale from Montana is with us.

00:52:24.680 We're going to leave this hour with Billy Joe Shaver,

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00:52:33.120 We're going to return for the second hour of the War Room,

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00:52:40.400 We're getting the inside baseball of the implosion of the lobbyists

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Bannon's War Room - October 04, 2023

Episode 3075： Knives Are Out For The Heroic 8

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