Episode 3106： The Crippling Of The American Infrastructure
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On today's show we have a special edition of the War Room, featuring a special guest, Senator J.D. Vance, who joins us from the House of Representatives to discuss the upcoming vote for Speaker of the House, the rise of the populist right wing in America, and the growing threat to the Middle East.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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it's tuesday 17 october in the year of our lord 2023 you notice we don't have a cold open we'll
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get to that later uh because we're time constrained today historic day at high noon today
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an historic vote for speaker of the house jim jordan the rise of the populist right
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uh will be manifest in itself it's going to be a tough one we'll get to that
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in a moment because we need everybody to the ramparts the numbers 202-225-3121 that's over
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at the house you've got the list grace chung and uh captain bannon have put it up it's up on all of our
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sites right now all the chats let's make sure you're calling over there and giving folks the
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what for uh if but if jordan gets less than 200 votes in the first round going to be a very long
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day we're honored to have senator jd vance the reason we've asked senator vance has been so gracious
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to actually come into the studio senator vance i think it's the first time since 1943 or 44
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we have a combatant commander centcom is in tel aviv even as we speak the commander-in-chief
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of course in the war room we think the illegitimate commander-in-chief is going to be
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there tomorrow we have two carrier battle group strike forces about 10 000 sailors each
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we have a the a-10 squadron forward deployed 2 000 logistics and medical personnel are getting
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ready to go into into israel we have special forces already just assisting i think in the intelligence
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we have approximately 25 000 combat troops either and i think a marine uh infantry a marine mef
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expeditionary force is getting ready 25 000 a day the combatant commander from centcom the commander-in-chief
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in israel what is going on can you just pull back because right here the financial times of london
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yesterday's edition tells me u.s intensifies calls on iran to prevent gaza wars spreading across the
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middle east yeah why are we sending unlimited amount of combat troops into the region right now
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and has anybody come over and had the decency to brief you guys in the senate uh no that's supposed
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to happen later this week but we've uh we've largely been blind to what's going on from an
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intelligence perspective uh been going on in the middle east look here's what's going on steve you're
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witnessing a massive escalation of a regional conflict and if you step back in in time about
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a century the historical argument that the neoconservatives always make about this moment
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is it's always world war ii they did this in 2003 with iraq they're doing this with zelinski in
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ukraine that if you don't want to send 150 billion dollars to to voldemir zelinski you're neville
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chamberlain you're ready to give up against adolf hitler's germany right it's always world war ii
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every day is munich yes it is the the the historical analogy that we need to be worried
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about right now steve is not world war ii it's world war one because what happened is a tiny
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regional minor conflict became a worldwide war that engulfed the united states really started
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a lot of the problems that we have the the so-called international order which i think has been very bad
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for americans and for american workers and and the the alliances they had in that summer of 1914 that
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they thought were going to help them yes were actually things that dragged them into combat an
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unending war of which for reasons that the british people at the time didn't fully understand that's
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exactly right we talk about world war ii in many ways world war ii was a consequence of some of the
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hangover from world war one so i mean it killed hundreds of millions of people being stupid in that
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moment and being a little too trigger happy here's the other interesting thing about this steve is you
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hear a lot of neoconservatives in the united states say that they're very pro-israel and steve you know i'm a
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pro-israel guy i think they're one of our most important allies here too but let's be clear here
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what are the israelis asking for and what are the neoconservatives offering and why aren't those the
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same thing you have people going on television threatening war against iran meanwhile our israeli
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allies are stepping back and saying no no no let's pump the brakes let's not start a broader regional
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conflict because it's not in israel's interest and it's sure as hell not in our interest either
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let's talk about that for a second um for people that support israel what we have to do now is to
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really assist israel and not drag this in more rapidly into a conflict that's persia versus the
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west because that's where we're here and this is from time immemorial right the greeks the romans uh
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the brits for a while now ourselves right and so how do we avoid if you have 25 000 combat troops
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and we're in day you know what seven or eight of this nine and unprecedented since casablanca or
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cairo in world war ii these huge meetings with stalin and churchill and roosevelt we've never had a
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combatant commander cincom announced today he's in tel aviv and and and biden goes tomorrow for the
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world that means we're taking ownership of the gaza am i wrong it looks like we're taking we're taking
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ownership of the gaza operation no it absolutely looks like that i think to the world and the other
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the other weird thing you talk about a persian war against the west of course they want to make it a
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persian plus russia war against the west which could then eventually bring in china and that's
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how you have you know 100 million people dead in five years and the turks and the egyptians and by
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the way old civilizations and by the way by the way the end of america as a superpower that is the
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beginning of the end in the same way that world war ii was the end of the british empire
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world war iii if god forbid we let it happen is the end of the american republic as we know it now
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here here's the thing again it's so funny when you compare neocons in america who say that they're
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israel's best friend with what the actual israelis are saying on the ground the the the americans are
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mad at bb because bb is not as anti-putin as they wanted to be well why would bb be explicitly anti-putin
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he has interest doesn't mean putin's a good guy but it means he has interest that he has to manage
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he has to be careful that level of caution that level of statesmanship is something a lot of
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americans could learn from uh let's talk about the senate um and particularly we're seeing now
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they're playing the old games even jordan we know this is going to happen very quickly they'll do
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some if he's in today which is going to be a you know a push yeah first thing you're going to do is
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a resolution and then they're going to come back very quickly with a ukraine uh israel uh a taste of
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taiwan and a little you know a little processing money down on the border how do we you've been
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in the leader the intellectual leader and and remember jd vance is not a dove jd vance has
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served his country for deploy you're not a dove yeah you're a realist and how do we bifurcate
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ukraine funding from israel because this is what they're going to try to jam together well that's
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exactly right and by the way steve i think it's a huge betrayal to our most important regional ally
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in the middle east of course which is israel if you're trying to basically take the tragedy
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that killed over 1200 israelis and package that use that as cover to give voldemir zelinski another
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three four five hundred billion dollars like what how could you how could you slap them in the face
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more directly by tying their problem which is distinct from the ukrainian problem together but you're
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right that effort is going to happen why because biden and because neoconservatives in washington dc
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no there is no political will in this country to give zelinski another 20 30 100 billion dollars so
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they are trying to jam this together to put people like me in a tough spot shut up about the ukrainian
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problem because you want to be supportive to the israelis we cannot let it happen steve what folks
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in higher want to know is how do you get invited to the senate lunch because i mean i'm seeing mitch
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mcconnell every day comes out mitch mcconnell wants to be bombing tehran this morning tom cotton who's
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a good man is off the chain on this and a couple of others it's one of the biggest neocon problems
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we have isn't the republican party in the united states senate how do you deal with that well look
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we just got to make the argument steve this is what is different 20 years ago we didn't have war room
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we didn't have alternative media we didn't have people like me in the senate pushing back against
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this stuff you know when i'm confronted with a lot of these arguments what i always say is look
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the same exact logic that led us into iraq is threatening to lead us into a massive escalation
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here we need to be smart steve ukraine is a different country from israel they need different
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weapons from the weapons the israelis need there are different regional alliances that are in play
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here obviously the russians don't like the ukrainians but the russians have a much more sort of neutral
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relationship with the israelis we've got to be smart and actually play our allies and our enemies
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in a way that serves american interest that's what's not happening you have these guys where
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they want to pay they want to say everybody is good or evil everybody's good or evil that's an
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international relations scandal it's stupid you don't care fundamentally about whether this person
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said mean things you care about whether you can serve america's interest and right now we have to
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be careful oh by the way steve something we haven't talked about is the 1.7 trillion dollar deficit that
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we're going to run so how can we fund potentially two three four fronts in an international war when
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we can't even afford to give our own people a reasonable budget that brings down the cost of
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inflation it's insane the treasury department actually got back to the war room late sunday
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night and said that the numbers are going to be out i think on friday they're going to be out on
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friday i believe that deficit is going to be two trillion and the reason is we're not going to hit
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the five trillion revenue because of the slowing down of the economy we'll see so this is
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inextricably linked with the debt crisis and that you're the only one making that case
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yeah walk me through how you convince your colleagues who are who are good and reasonable
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men how do you can women how do you how do you convince them of your to take your side in the
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argument because look the fundamental argument i make steve is we didn't win world war ii we didn't
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create the superpower because we said the right things or thought the right things we did it because
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we had a powerful home that allowed us to project power abroad the problem in the world right now
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is not that america we're not pounding our chest enough it's that we are weak at home and people
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are taking advantage of that if you continue to let this inflation crisis spiral out of control
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if you continue to offshore american manufacturing we're not going to be able to build the weapons
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of the next generation much less actually fight a war with them here's the other thing steve we got
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to be careful this inflation crisis doesn't take down our allies i'm sure you've talked about it in
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on this show the polish law and justice party big time one of the great allies in the world of the
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united states of america their energy prices are so high they just got booted out of office where
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they're likely to get booted out of office do we want to take down every allied american
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government because we cannot get a hold of our own foreign policy and actually push our interests
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coldly rationally we got to do it the senate gets back today in the in the business you guys
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are going to have is jack lou as ambassador i haven't seen any appropriations bills coming
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through yeah we're going to be stuck with us and jim jordan's already said he's going to give us a cr
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it's going to kick in we're looking at an omnibus again how does jd vance as an america first
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maga leader stop the madness by telling the truth and by pushing against this stuff privately and
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publicly steve i i will say not to pat myself on the back too much the reason the last cr which i was
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not a fan of but the reason the last cr didn't include ukrainian money is because we stood up and
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actually made the argument that had nothing to do with the america that happened at a lunch
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mcconnell was shocked tell us to get some insight happen at lunch give us some inside i i i i will
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be respectful of the privacy of my colleague steve but let's just say that uh a few of us spoke up
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made our voices heard and that became the will of the conference we're not going to win every single
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one of these fights but as i always say our voters don't expect us to win every time they just expect
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us to fight every time uh we only got a couple minutes left with you and i got to get to there was
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a town hall or something the other day somebody somebody some clips of yeah uh where one of the candidates
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running for senate that would be your colleague uh running against sherrod brown is a tough guy to
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run against yes actually actually said uh and this candidate is not bernie marino actually said
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when talked about the invasion of the country and so he says no i think they're 20 million here but
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they're great consumers so they got to say your what are your what are your thoughts on the
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number one priority we have which is the invasion of the southern border uh the eight to ten million
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folks that are here well first of all you know i've endorsed bernie marino bernie marino is a good
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friend of mine i think will make a great senator will make a great colleague and importantly steve
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can win but i think viewing those 20 million illegal aliens as consumers is fundamentally
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an affront to the entire idea of the american nation kind of a donor mindset absolutely we're
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not just an economy we're not just a transaction place of buyers and sellers we're a nation of people
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and of borders and of shared common interest if you can't defend that basic idea then i don't think
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that you should be in the united states senate now here's the other crazy thing steve we haven't
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talked about this enough why are there people all across our country protesting on behalf of hamas
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because we let these people into our country in the first place if you really want to fight hamas
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don't let people come into our country that are pro hamas in the first place we should stop this we
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got to recognize we've got to have borders and we got to bring people into our country that are
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going to make it stronger not defend killing israeli children our audience loves when you give
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speeches the historic speech we gave you running how do people find your schedule social media your
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website people love following you where they go i'm on all the social media channels uh getter truth
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facebook twitter jd vance one jd vance.com is my website and i'll come and chat with you if you'll
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have me again vance you knew this is going to be tough when you ran did you think it's going to be
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this tough uh it's been tough but it's been fun man it's been fun it's an honor sir senator jd vance uh one of the
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leaders of the maga and america first movement and our voice in the united states senate kind of
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becoming a lion in the senate uh he's thrown down on some hard fights a lot of hard fights ahead
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particularly in the next couple days you'll give us a heads up after you get your briefing later this
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week about this situation absolutely okay short commercial break we're gonna be back in the war
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we're gonna focus we're gonna pivot now historic vote today that you were the ones that drove uh jim
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jordan will be put in nomination by at least stefanik today sometime afternoon on the first vote and
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we're gonna see what happens like i said we get under 200 in the first we're gonna have a long day
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nato and consolidate everything but it's interesting the very things you're saying
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about israel you could say about ukraine uh talk about that continued battle for the hearts and the
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minds of the global south yeah well i mean it's clearly um it's clearly an issue i mean it be in
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no doubt that china and russia see that as a principal objective to win over the global south as far as
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possible uh because uh they consider that collective vote if you like to be an important
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one um and then i would just say one thing joe you know um europeans maybe not be may not be as
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united as as we necessarily think i mean if you just look at the past more than a week uh they've
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struggled they suspended aid to gaza then they reversed it um i'm told uh that there was actually
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fury when ursula bondeleon went to israel on friday uh and failed in the view of some to combine
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support for israel with um explicit calls for restraint it was only on sunday night that all
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the 27 countries of europe united in a statement to say we strongly emphasize israel's right to defend
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itself in line with humanitarian and international law but also reiterate the importance of ensuring the
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protection of civilians so just think about the europeans who are worrying one european diplomat
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said to me they're worrying about their local situation we just saw that um alleged terror attack
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overnight in brussels uh they're worried about their situation one european diplomat said to me
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we don't want to import this crisis so there are there's a lot of nervousness in a lot of places
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about how this plays out and if you talk about the arab world it is understandable that arab leaders will
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have front of mind the view of the arab street because that hasn't gone away despite the abraham
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accords uh so and then in terms of the global south uh the message that china and russia consistently
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try to send and you may think it's laughable they try to send the message that we're the underdogs
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just like you we're on your side and and that i think is the danger is that if that uh takes hold
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that idea that the palestinians are the underdogs this starts to turn the turn uh the long way i think
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that's part of the reason why you have president biden so concerned about the idea of an israeli
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occupation of gaza michael the question is if there's that many people recoiling
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in taste and gut to the jordan flavor uh then what's going to happen tomorrow where do they go
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where do they go they go through the process the the thinking is okay well if we just force a vote
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on the floor then this is going to embarrass the party which i find laughable at this point but okay
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we'll play it's going to be embarrassing if you have to go through more than one vote and that's
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going to bring people around uh to jim jordan no it won't i mean you just heard a member go
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you know this is a coup i don't want to participate in a coup um and the coup began when eight eight
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members of the house caucus republican caucus kicked mccarthy out so you can't even you can't even
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mansplain this uh against the democrats michael jim jordan jim jordan may have coup experience uh but
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they weren't winning they weren't successful coups we tried to subpoena him on and he didn't play
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he wouldn't show up for the subpoena and this is the guy now that you're going to put in you know
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to represent the constitutional principles that you know the speaker uh typically represents uh
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despite the politics um so it's a real problem right now in the end does he get it i would probably
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say yes because who else is going to raise their hand and there's some some conversations democrats
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have been reaching out to some more moderate members there's some talk about a tom cole uh possibility
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finding that compromise candidate ari but then rather it's a compromise candidate or jim jordan
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what happens next does the caucus allow them to sit down with the president of the united states of
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the opposite party joe biden and settle the budget uh issue do they come to an agreement on the middle
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east and and israel what about ukraine these issues do not go away for whoever the next speaker is
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and if you have a caucus has already decided hell no on all three of those things or at least two of
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them what what does that speaker do how does he corral the votes put them on the floor so that there's a
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win for the country well and you're okay welcome back um historic day uh up into your post
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you got to man the ramparts now you uh this audience has driven this historic moment just to put in
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perspective a couple weeks ago you took down a sitting speaker of the house and they're not
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the dc unit party is not happy with that they're plotting every second of every day to come back
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to power um they're not thrilled that you have a voice and they're not thrilled that you now have
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found that you have political muscle in in the toughest fight of all which these fights on the hill
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against the old bulls that run appropriations in in the folks that run um that run the armed services
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committee and these other other chairmen they don't like the fact that you're calling them out and
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you're and you're beating them so it's uh it's it's a intense fight this fight right now you have to uh
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you this fight you have to be you have to be um completely focused uh grace has up their uh social
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media grace has up their uh their the numbers 202-225-3121 um you you have those up make sure
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you call right now this is vitally important at noon today we're going to get what we've been
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demanding and what we've been demanding is to get public votes we want people on the record no more
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backroom deals no more anonymous votes get it out there hey we're big boys and girls the american
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democracy can take this what we need to do and this is what has this is what has driven such
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incredible power from the beginning what has driven such incredible power from the beginning
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is your voice starting in january of of this year you have driven to this place today we're on the cusp
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of actually having jim jordan and hey jim jordan is far from perfect i got that in fact immediately
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we're going to have a huge fight on the cr you're going to have a huge fight on the budget bills you're
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going to have a huge fight on ukraine trying to bifurcate ukraine from israel you're going to have
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a big discussion about israel how do we actually help israel and not how we just follow these neocons
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that are determined to drag us into a broader middle east war okay that we can't fight right
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now because the simple reason is we've got an invasion on our southern border we have a financial
00:23:38.280
economy and particularly a balance sheet over the federal reserve that's about to collapse and we've
00:23:43.960
got the chinese communist party with putin the kgb and the ccp are meeting uh today even as we speak
00:23:51.080
and what they're doing is that they're meeting right now and they're working with the persians
00:23:56.160
this entire situation is because we've allowed this to deteriorate we've allowed this to deteriorate
00:24:02.080
um do we have another clip from the uh do we have another clip from this morning we can play go go
00:24:08.220
okay um let's get on top of this i got a lot of clips i want to play this morning um the um
00:24:15.340
they said right there in that clip right there about the global south remember at birch gold what
00:24:21.260
we've been telling about the entire time is the global south now is what's called a a a uh a good
00:24:27.660
uh construct to think about is bricks okay the bricks nations these are the nations this is the
00:24:33.340
emerging growth nations of the world that control the resources in controlling the resources uh they
00:24:39.580
uh they also want to get off the dollar system they understand that we control the world through the
00:24:44.700
federal reserve note through the through the dollar every transaction the world has to be has to be
00:24:50.060
translated or translate into dollars they want to get off that system with de-dollarization
00:24:55.340
the de-dollarization movement this directly relates to our ability to finance our deficits in debt the
00:25:03.180
treasury department actually got back to ej and tony late on a sunday night the treasury department of
00:25:08.300
the united states government got back to ej uh where he went there for war room and said hey how
00:25:14.060
can we haven't given us the accounts of how the fiscal year ended it normally is by uh it's by
00:25:19.500
regulation it's got to come out a couple of days afterwards you're already late and they said well
00:25:23.260
you know it's end of the year we got a lot of dude they're over there right now trying to cook
00:25:26.620
the books they're trying to show you that the deficit's not two trillion dollars two trillion
00:25:31.340
dollars when the people that cut the debt deal at the time that was going to be under a trillion
00:25:35.500
dollars we are adding we are adding debt because of these incredibly high interest rates as we told
00:25:41.340
you it's the refinancing of the six to eight trillion dollars that we have to refinance this year
00:25:46.700
that was done in an average about 1.2 percent that we're going to have to refinance at five
00:25:50.860
percent or higher that is a crushing blow to the american economy and right now you have centcom and
00:25:57.340
centcom is a combatant commander we have a number of these combatant commanders that run certain
00:26:01.340
areas of the world centcom is essentially the middle east the centcom the combatant commander
00:26:07.100
who's normally headquartered in tampa is today in tel aviv and what is he in tel aviv for of course
00:26:12.540
they're going through the plans and talking about what's going on the commander in chief of your armed
00:26:16.060
forces is there tomorrow this hasn't happened since world war ii this has not happened since i
00:26:21.100
don't know the casablanca conference or cairo uh and those conferences took place after we had a
00:26:26.380
couple of victories under the belt and they were talking about what's the next phase this is terrible
00:26:32.060
optics for the world they're gonna say well it's showing the persians that you know we're committed
00:26:36.700
what it's showing the world is that uh what the israelis do next in gaza biden owns this entire
00:26:44.380
situation right now is so biden can get there tomorrow and be war leader like fdr right that
00:26:50.220
he or like lincoln that everything that came before all the hunter biden all the madness the destruction
00:26:55.020
of our economy the invasion of the southern border that all gets put away because all everybody wants
00:26:59.820
to talk about all everybody wants to talk about is uh is the mid-east war and what's happening in
00:27:05.420
israel we cannot and we will not in the war room allow that to happen right now more important things
00:27:11.340
is the financial condition of this country and the lies and misrepresentations are told to you
00:27:15.420
every day number two or at the same time i guess another number one is the invasion of the southern
00:27:20.780
border and the eight to ten million illegal alien invaders that are here and what's going to happen
00:27:26.220
to them if we don't solve those two problems we're not going to be there for israel we're not going to be
00:27:31.180
there for taiwan we're not going to be there for any of our allies none of them because we are going to be
00:27:35.340
too weak that's why this vote today is it perfect it is not perfect we are immediately going to be
00:27:42.060
in a confrontation with jim jordan that's okay jim jordan's a good man jim jordan's a solid guy we
00:27:47.740
want we would love to have uh mark one mod zero of jim jordan back in the old days when he started house
00:27:53.580
freedom caucus remember jordan was with us on taking down canter jordan was with us on taking down
00:27:58.540
boehner jordan is with us on the first time of taking down mccarthy jim jordan was with us for some tough
00:28:03.260
fights short commercial break we're going to be back in the world we've got a lot to go through
00:28:07.420
congressman i think ralph norman one of the budget hawks is going to be up here because
00:28:10.860
right off the bat you're going to get cr right in your grill but today man the ramparts 202-225-3121
00:28:18.580
and particularly grace and mo are going to put out i think there's six or eight public and still public
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with steve womack our favorite uh what they call the cardinals or the old bulls make sure you
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okay we have a financial crisis in this country axios yesterday said oops oops the financing
00:30:12.240
charges right now are out of control why because what we told this audience about a month ago
00:30:17.580
the reef when you have 33 train in debt that's the principal amount right plus you got what nine
00:30:23.260
train over the federal reserve that debt a bunch of it comes rolling up all the time we do short-term
00:30:29.600
financings we do you know i don't know 30s we do you know one years we do five years right but you do a
00:30:36.800
lot of short-term financing that has to be rolled over a lot of this and particularly longer-term
00:30:41.620
debt that's coming off was all done in the old zero interest rate days that's all coming uh due
00:30:47.980
now at five percent interest the interest expense they already said yesterday in axios guess what
00:30:53.280
it's going to be 800 billion dollars this year hmm that seems to me to be close to the defense budget
00:30:59.880
the out-of-control defense budget here's what you got folks you have this in mathematics because
00:31:05.840
the law of large numbers right now it's getting so big it's going to metastasize it's going to get
00:31:12.440
bigger and bigger every decision that is going to be made in american politics is going to have the
00:31:18.740
specter of this massive debt that we have in these deficits the treasury department let me just repeat
00:31:24.580
the treasury department got back to ej and tony for the first time in his life
00:31:28.680
on sunday because they follow the show they know we're hammering them they're late on showing us
00:31:35.160
where the fiscal year actually ended with cash money i don't hear any happy talk about these accounts
00:31:40.460
that accounts you know like i used to say when i was in finance EBITDA EBITDA is an opinion cash is a fact
00:31:46.460
show me the money we want to see what were the accounts at midnight on the 30th and here's what you're
00:31:51.620
going to see we didn't do the reason this thing is taking so late they're over there cooking the books
00:31:55.900
right now they're trying to figure out all the games they can play with student debt there's all
00:31:59.280
kind of accounting tricks they're going to try to play to show you that we got five tree and
00:32:03.360
in uh in revenue that didn't happen why the economy's slowing and you can't hide it particularly
00:32:08.960
uh capital gains taxes ralph norman's been one of the hawks uh congressman norman first talk to us
00:32:15.440
about this historic uh today what's going to happen how do you see it unfolding before we talk about
00:32:20.620
the dire straits of america's finances first of all steve jim jordan is our candidate jim jordan is
00:32:28.880
our designee he's done a great job over the weekend to convince those continue to hold out
00:32:34.760
uh we will have a speaker today it doesn't matter how many rounds that jordan has got a solid block
00:32:41.660
that will put him in as speaker i expect probably several rounds of voting which is okay there's nothing
00:32:47.180
magic about that i wish it was in the first round but he will be speaker today and there's no better
00:32:53.940
messenger for the upcoming 24 elections to get this madman out of the white house than jim jordan
00:33:02.800
what um you're not concerned we're hearing that there's a bunch of these votes or some of these
00:33:11.760
votes on the the resistance that some people are giving up because of the war room posse and others
00:33:16.220
are pounding them 24 7 um but they're good for one round or two but after that they're free agents
00:33:22.020
any concern about that no because it is what it is everybody has a vote steve and the great thing is
00:33:28.960
they're having to stand up uh in front of the world and say who they're voting for and that changes a lot
00:33:34.780
of people's minds uh when they have to do that you know we've had secret ballot votes which really
00:33:39.340
are meaningless the fact that we're doing what we're doing it's the right time to do it and we'll find
00:33:44.100
out today but i feel real confident with with jim jordan uh how you gonna vote against jim jordan he
00:33:49.340
is you know he's the real deal he's been a been a stalwart patriot for a long time and uh he's just
00:33:55.620
the right man for the job there is nobody else other than jim jordan
00:33:58.880
we hear about uh the the some of the old bulls particularly in the south these committee chairmen
00:34:06.480
have been working with the democrats and there's they have an alternative plan which is either put
00:34:10.500
patrick mchenry in for some temporary or maybe even go back to mccarthy any are you concerned
00:34:16.900
about any of that that was put before the caucus last night and uh i want to give you know patrick
00:34:23.400
mchenry you know powers until a certain date no that's we got elected speaker steve you know we've
00:34:29.900
got things to do it's been two weeks now and why delay it and no that won't fly and i don't think
00:34:36.600
anything other than uh putting jim jordan in office uh as speaker is going to work this time
00:34:42.960
and i think you'll see good things to happen and i think um you know if not jim jordan then who i
00:34:49.360
don't think there is anybody else congressman you're saying at the struggle session you guys are having
00:34:55.240
struggle sessions now like the like the ccp used to do during the cultural revolution in the struggle
00:35:00.260
session last night they actually proposed that the old bulls actually proposed their deal with
00:35:05.420
cutting a deal with the with the moderate democrats to put mchenry in on some interim basis that
00:35:10.100
actually got proposed well he got up in front of the front of the and i won't name names he'll tell
00:35:15.600
you if he wants to but it was an old bull been around probably 20 plus years in congress yet he said
00:35:21.120
my resolution will have patrick mchenry uh is you know give him the powers of the speaker to last
00:35:28.480
till i think he said november 17th you also had rumors of mike rogers out of alabama talking to the
00:35:34.640
democrats he's since changed he's seen the light and he is now with um uh with jim jordan so i think
00:35:42.740
that will it'll be a chain reaction once we start standing up and having to announce in front of the
00:35:48.060
world who was supporting but yeah that was the resolution with mchenry was actually put on the
00:35:53.460
floor last night and nothing came of it he just said it and then sat down
00:35:57.600
walk me through you've been one of the big uh if not the leading voice on the budget hawks
00:36:05.840
once jordan's in we have some unpleasant business and remember uh congressman the war room posse we
00:36:13.360
pride ourselves in being the hard right particularly on finances of this movement um off the bat we just
00:36:21.240
had senator vance here the senate hasn't moved any appropriations bills so november 17th is looking
00:36:26.900
is coming at us like a freight train walk the audience through what happens well what jim jordan
00:36:33.080
the plan he's laid out is one to put a focus on getting the eight remaining appropriation bills
00:36:39.400
through with a top line number and getting it over to the senate i've heard the same thing you have
00:36:44.500
steve that they're just not going to take it up well we can't control the senate our job is to get it
00:36:49.340
over there to them we have got a crisis with our debt and i've heard the figure 800 trillion our budget
00:36:56.500
for the whole military is right at 826 830 and it's out of control as it is it's 20 000 per second
00:37:05.760
for interest on this country we can't sustain that so that's one of the challenges the next speaker will
00:37:11.820
have and anybody will have but i will tell you with jim jordan you can trust him when he says he's going
00:37:18.100
to put a prior priority on it he will do it and he will rally the troops to to make sure it's done
00:37:24.200
what this is what i think is is um frustrates this rising populist movement that's now becoming aware
00:37:34.020
of the country's finances and how it's inextricably linked with everything you come out of the real
00:37:38.420
estate business you're quite interest rate focused what do your colleagues not understand
00:37:45.160
about where we stand with this debt the face amount but because of the refinancing of the old debt
00:37:52.100
this thing's exploding now now this is why treasury's holding back the numbers because this fiscal year is
00:37:58.200
going to look so much worse than they had forecast so much the the debt ceiling guys that mchenry and and
00:38:04.020
and and these guys that cut this deal we're working off financial models that are that are no longer
00:38:08.660
even relevant what is it about your colleagues that do not understand in this moment that this
00:38:15.180
is the paramount if we don't face this crisis like adults the country's over because you're not
00:38:21.800
you're not going to be a friend and ally to israel you're not going to be a friend and ally to taiwan
00:38:26.400
for those of you so inclined you're not going to be a friend and ally to nato or to ukraine you can't do
00:38:31.980
it because we don't have the room we're going down the exact same path the british empire went down
00:38:36.660
so so you being someone that's a businessman and understands finance what is it about your
00:38:43.340
colleagues that they fail and i'm talking about the republicans the democrats are out of control
00:38:48.200
radicals but i'm talking about even guys on our side of the football sir one they're not for the
00:38:54.020
most part to be quite honest with you they're not business people um they just haven't been in the
00:38:58.900
business arena secondly a lot want to keep their job in congress believe it or not there won't be
00:39:04.800
a job to keep if we keep going like we are in in my real estate world if your interest on the debt
00:39:10.940
that you owe when you can't pay that you've got a problem everyone listening to this program uh has
00:39:17.320
got a family budget they deal with if if your income uh continues if you're underwater for as long
00:39:24.300
as this country has been underwater and spending things where it's anything but strong a strong
00:39:30.780
military arsenal uh we've got a problem uh steve we've got so many issues we're facing but again
00:39:37.420
we just have to start with putting a speaker in place who will emphasize and will focus on getting
00:39:42.940
people in place and you know david swyker has done a good job on charts and showing the severity
00:39:48.700
and it's look at this as an example social security look it's going bankrupt in five four
00:39:55.220
five years look at the highway trust fund going bankrupt and you just can't continue to ignore
00:40:00.940
this and really that's our top priority along with uh hopefully with a new president getting
00:40:06.940
this country back on track to defend itself you can't defend from weakness and that's what this
00:40:11.540
administration is doing they're asleep at the switch and as you say the democrats there is no
00:40:17.100
crossing the lines with them they're socialists they're avowed socialists and they make no bombs
00:40:21.500
about it as a real estate guy how much do you fear right now mortgages generation home buying is
00:40:28.620
that i don't know 30 or 40 year low because of interest rates uh commercial property banks are
00:40:33.420
sitting on ticking time bombs not just the government bonds they own of the unrealized losses but
00:40:37.740
all the they haven't marked to market the commercial real estate china is in one of the reasons china
00:40:43.120
is in persia in the middle east is to distract their population from the implosion of the commercial
00:40:47.920
property market as a former real estate uh developer and investor how much do you fear the
00:40:55.120
real estate market in this country collapsing and taking down our economy with it well it's it's a big
00:41:01.520
fear i mean we're in the commercial real estate industry i can't tell you the number of uh big name
00:41:07.520
tenants that while their sign is on the door they're not paying rent the reason is because
00:41:13.760
they're not having the the sales they're not been able to with inflation they can't mark up all of
00:41:18.640
their goods to cover their cost and what are they doing they're coming to the uh to the uh landlords and
00:41:24.960
saying here's what i can pay now what are you going if you have a 50 000 square foot building what are
00:41:30.080
you going to say when the tenant comes to you and says this is what i can pay the upfit cost alone
00:41:35.040
uh they've got tremendous bargaining power with that because you can't go in and re cut it up and
00:41:40.560
reshape uh buildings to conform to tenants so it's a real concern particularly in the commercial market
00:41:45.840
you're going to see banks tightening up as they've already done south carolina is a state that has
00:41:51.200
people moving in uh i talked to my son last night things are slowing up uh you let rates tick up even
00:41:58.560
more and even though we've got people coming in they can't afford it the household incomes they won't
00:42:03.520
qualify so from the commercial market to the home building market we've got severe problems and
00:42:09.680
we've got to face them now rather than later because there is no runway for good for a happy landing on
00:42:15.200
this congressman what's your social media we're going to be all over uh our people at the ramparts
00:42:22.240
right now making sure they're calling these uh the recalcitrant people make we'd love to get this
00:42:26.960
done the first ballot or the second where how do people follow you today congressman norman rep
00:42:31.520
rap ralph norman dot com congressman we'll have you on here a lot uh talking about the finances
00:42:38.960
because i got to tell you it's a crisis and very few people in this imperial capital are informed
00:42:44.880
enough or understand it enough to deal with it and it is a ticking thermonuclear weapon right now for
00:42:51.040
the american people and it's going to lead to lead to our demise it's here it's here now steve
00:42:56.080
congressman thank you very much okay we're gonna take a short commercial break make sure you go
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check out birchgold.com slash bannon right now understand we see putin in uh in beijing with xi
00:43:10.000
that's the global south that's the bricks their number one focus is to do what happened to the
00:43:15.520
pound after world war ii is to de dollar the de-dollarization movement right now we're having a
00:43:22.560
tough time selling the bonds yelling saying we got plenty of money for ukraine plenty of money for
00:43:26.560
israel but she can't sell the bonds the interest rates got to go up why people think they may have
00:43:32.560
too many dollars this is a global crisis global crisis of economics of finance of geopolitics
00:43:41.600
in the entire time we have a massive invasion on our southern border that the elites in this country
00:43:47.920
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okay we're a long way from uh we're a long way from getting this done today
00:45:37.760
and i want to make sure this um this um um um hang on to the okay um this could take several ballots
00:45:50.160
today so here's what's going to happen let's get some programming notes and we're i'm gonna do some
00:45:53.920
producing live on the show as my staff always love it when i do i'm giving them stink eye and they give
00:45:59.680
me stink eye back um we're gonna live at noon this is gonna happen this historic vote
00:46:07.120
whenever we're gonna be on getter if you haven't gotten to getter you're missing all of my
00:46:12.400
missives all night long of course ben harnwell the whole team grace chung queen of the trolls you
00:46:18.320
think she's bad on on on twitter check her on getter mo the entire team so uh getter will be live
00:46:26.160
streaming the vote we'll pick up the c spans feed and do it and i'll be giving commentary
00:46:31.920
as those in the chat room love me to jump in there also on rumble we'll be going up live there also
00:46:39.120
for the rumble crowd that rumble crowd's a little rough kind of dig it it's a little rough
00:46:44.400
the the the getter crowd is they're two different you know it's two two it's house of lords house of
00:46:50.880
commons i don't want to say which is which but you got to come into that rumble chat that's not for
00:46:58.080
the faint of heart they get it on over there the getter does too getter does too but the rumble man
00:47:05.440
that is that is rough that's rough and raw over there um we're gonna be up historically i think
00:47:12.400
stefanik is going to put him in nomination and then we're going to roll and we've demanded these
00:47:17.920
public votes think about we broke some news in fact grace text me i haven't seen i didn't see
00:47:22.880
that on jake sherman i didn't see it on anybody they actually put forward formally the deal here's
00:47:29.680
how much they think of you here's here's how much they enjoyed your activity over the weekend because
00:47:34.960
you this audience is what brought us to this point and it's historic in its nature
00:47:40.560
you took on over the weekend the old bulls that are these uh congressmen they're in these
00:47:48.800
mega districts but they're dug in they've been around forever and they run they can they call
00:47:53.040
them the cardinals they run these the big committees the ones that count the ones that deal with money
00:47:59.760
and power the two most important are appropriations and armed services you notice you know judiciary and
00:48:06.720
oversight they're those the ones that get the big hearings you have guys jumping in there and they're
00:48:10.640
in the you know it's you got matt gates it's all showtime uh jim jordan comes from that area
00:48:16.240
uh but but yeah that's the front porch the the engine room where stuff gets done
00:48:22.880
in this town is about money in the allocation of money and with it power
00:48:29.360
we are fighting a spiritual war but as you know in every spiritual war you got to get down even
00:48:34.320
st michael you got to get down into the trenches if you're going to win it and this is trench warfare
00:48:41.520
uh it's not pretty uh it's oftentimes quite contentious it's not glamorous
00:48:47.440
you know in the and i love the influencers but when you got some influence sometimes this is where
00:48:52.560
boom you're down in it and this weekend we um we found out something something was revealed
00:48:59.920
and that is the cardinals or the old bulls may not have as much power as they think they have
00:49:08.560
you scared them a lot of the blowback coming here is that they don't they didn't like the rough tactics
00:49:14.000
this weekend they didn't like your they don't like hearing from the from the from the kulaks
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no that's not what they want to do they don't like that this is a country club up here this is the this
00:49:25.280
this is they're the they're the they're the elect they're the uh they're your betters and they don't
00:49:32.000
want to hear from the hobbits they don't want to hear from the unwashed unwashed masses well this
00:49:37.520
weekend you gave it to them with both barrels both barrels um and they didn't like it and you had it
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you had a uh we had a remember everything in life up here is negotiation leverage points forcing functions
00:49:52.320
this is how because they're just not going to sit there and go oh lovely this is what the grassroots
00:49:57.920
wants this is what the mega movement wants this is what the deplorables want yeah fine let's do what
00:50:02.720
they want the world doesn't work like that if the world worked like that we wouldn't be in the situation
00:50:07.920
we're in because you've worked for and elected enough pencil neck establishment republicans that have
00:50:14.400
come up here and rolled over you ain't rolling over because you said hey i'm fighting for my country
00:50:21.040
and you know i'm gonna you guys are more emblematic of the revolutionary generation than anything we've
00:50:26.320
ever had since that time since that time you talk about the constitution about the love of the kind
00:50:33.680
hey at some point you got to roll your sleeves up and get down in it and you guys are in it this
00:50:38.960
weekend was trench warfare and we won we think because the other leverage point we had the other forcing
00:50:49.440
function remember all the stuff last week and look some people that are real allies of ours
00:50:53.840
we're saying no you only come to the floor you got 217 no no no no no no no no no no no no no
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then you're gonna have backroom deals you have all this let's just get up and we advocated jordan
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as soon as you get the nominee boom just go right in fact we want the nominations to be public but that
00:51:08.080
wasn't going to work we couldn't win that one but get right up and go to the floor on friday
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afternoon and expose them make them stand up in front of their constituents and let's let's have
00:51:16.880
votes hasn't that been a clarifying didn't we say that this process would unmask people and that you
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would see who actually governed you and you would see if if they if they have your consent do they
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actually have the consent of the governed this is how the imperial capitals run for decades after decades
00:51:38.960
after decades after decades after decades like right now my big beef is not the defense of israel
00:51:46.080
israel's right to defend itself or are working with israel for her defense
00:51:53.360
in people who try to make sure that israel is defended my problem is people that are just blindly
00:52:02.400
running around and we're going to get into something that's so deep and trust me there'll be
00:52:07.360
people in this country want to cut israel loose in a new york second and if we want to defend against
00:52:12.560
that you've got to think it through at the beginning what this imperial capitals run for decade after
00:52:18.000
decade after decade you get a vietnam war and then you get the pentagon papers at the end you get
00:52:22.880
an afghanistan war and then you get the washington post afghanistan papers after 20 years
00:52:28.000
you get uh you get uh 9-11 where we still don't actually have you still got redacted pages
00:52:33.760
on the 9-11 report we still don't have a full understanding of pearl harbor we don't fully
00:52:38.160
understand the kennedy assassination we don't fully understand the whole weapons of mass destruction
00:52:43.280
how we got in iraq what the objectives all that is just sleepwalking we're just sleepwalking
00:52:48.640
well this audience are the wide awake so you talk about a great awakening they're awakened the
00:52:52.960
average citizen and they're the wide awakes and they're not having it anymore they want to have
00:52:57.200
an adult they're adults they want to be treated like adults they want to debate like adults and they
00:53:01.840
they want to get down on it at the beginning that's what this vote at noon is
00:53:09.120
i can't tell you what a massive victory with jim jordan with all his faults remember donald trump
00:53:14.000
has faults tucker carlson steve bannon sean hannity jim jordan all of us grievous
00:53:21.280
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