Bannon's War Room - Episode 3125： Emmer Drops Out Of Speaker Race

00:00:00.000 From the moment Republicans impulsively wrestled the House speakership away from Kevin McCarthy

00:00:05.340 precisely three weeks ago today, actually it happened during this program, the act of

00:00:10.000 replacing him has been like the worst, most unserious, but still very watchable reality

00:00:16.440 TV show ever.

00:00:18.600 Backbiting, score settling, alliance making and breaking.

00:00:22.900 And today, a series of secret votes kicking people off the island.

00:00:26.200 The original field of nine Republicans who wanted the job was whittled down this morning

00:00:30.800 from seven, then six, then five, then four, then straight to two, and then one.

00:00:35.420 And now he's out.

00:00:36.780 Minnesota Congressman Tom Emmer, the House whip, got his rose today, but literally in the last

00:00:41.720 few minutes, since we've been on the air, he dropped out, out of the running.

00:00:45.100 So on to plan whatever we're on.

00:00:47.940 EFG, let's bring into our conversation NBC News correspondent Ali Vitale on Capitol Hill

00:00:52.440 for us, and former congressman from Florida and MSNBC political analyst, David Jolly.

00:00:57.780 Who is, what is happening, Ali Vitale?

00:01:03.460 It's a new record, at least, Nicole.

00:01:05.720 Right, with three hours.

00:01:06.680 Emerald has his job of speaker-designate.

00:01:09.060 Three hours, exactly.

00:01:10.280 He got it around one o'clock, and my understanding is he walked into the room behind me at around

00:01:14.440 four, dropped out, and left with a smile, but nary a word to reporters.

00:01:18.820 So now they're back to the drawing board, kind of.

00:01:21.260 It's a drawing board that we've already looked at today.

00:01:24.100 Specifically, Kevin Hearn and Mike Johnson will once again vie for this position, which,

00:01:30.800 again, I have no idea why anyone wants at this point.

00:01:34.240 But for Hearn, he is someone who is coming into this with a lot of optimism, having just

00:01:39.260 spoken to him on his way into this meeting.

00:01:42.020 And for Mike Johnson, he is still one of the last people within the existing leadership

00:01:46.540 structure who could potentially rise into the speakership.

00:01:49.960 I have no clue if they will be able to get the 217 that they need.

00:01:54.420 But in order to answer that question, they first have to get the majority in the room.

00:01:58.380 So we'll see which of them comes out with the very coveted title of speaker-elect, and we'll

00:02:04.540 go from there.

00:02:05.400 But I think it's important to note, you know, I think, because we've talked about it on this

00:02:08.960 show, I'm not someone who thinks that former President Trump is a mover of votes here on

00:02:14.480 Capitol Hill. But it is my understanding, according to one source familiar with what

00:02:19.720 Emmer was doing in these intervening hours while he was trying to see if he could get

00:02:24.320 the votes together.

00:02:25.160 As soon as Trump tweeted saying that he was a rhino and that he basically didn't support

00:02:30.820 him for this job, that's, I think, when Emmer realized the writing was on the wall.

00:02:35.100 Because although Trump doesn't move votes, he can kind of stop votes from moving.

00:02:40.540 And I think that could be one of the things that spell doom for Emmer even sooner.

00:02:44.920 But it is the shortest-lived speaker-elect bid that we've at least seen here.

00:02:48.820 I'll go to our House historian, Kyle Stewart, one of our producers, to see what the shortest

00:02:52.620 one actually is.

00:02:53.560 But this has got to be in the run.

00:02:57.380 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:03:02.240 Pray for our enemies.

00:03:04.200 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:03:07.460 You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:03:11.720 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:03:13.660 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:03:15.060 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that.

00:03:16.820 But you're not going to stop it.

00:03:17.760 It's going to happen.

00:03:19.020 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:03:21.720 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:03:29.220 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:03:32.980 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:03:39.340 War Room.

00:03:40.160 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:03:45.260 Tuesday, 24 October, Year of Our Lord, 2023.

00:03:48.360 The afternoon and early evening edition of War Room.

00:03:51.340 Thank you.

00:03:52.260 Another historic day.

00:03:54.860 This one, the war in posse, you manned the ramparts and got this done. 0.89

00:03:59.200 President Trump came in with absolutely a brutal tweet or truth social during the middle of this that buried Emmer.

00:04:06.440 We have a clip.

00:04:07.320 We have Congressman Troy Nels is going to join us.

00:04:09.320 But we have a short clip.

00:04:10.220 Let me play this clip and I'll bring the congressman.

00:04:12.180 Well, I kind of like the idea of Donald J. Trump, quite honestly.

00:04:18.100 He's the leader of our party.

00:04:19.040 I've said that from the beginning.

00:04:20.440 I'll continue to say it.

00:04:21.700 We threw our all-stars out now.

00:04:23.840 The top three we had with the speaker, with the majority leader, with Jim Jordan.

00:04:29.280 Now we've got eight others.

00:04:30.640 Great candidates.

00:04:31.680 Mike Johnson, all these others.

00:04:33.540 And we rejected those.

00:04:35.980 I mean, what are we going to do? 0.99

00:04:37.240 Go down and just put everybody's name in the damn hand? 0.97

00:04:40.520 Maybe for the first time in the history of our conference, we should consider somebody from the outside. 0.98

00:04:45.300 I suggest, and I'll suggest if we go to the House floor for a vote, that it is our leader, Donald J. Trump, for 100 days.

00:04:51.860 100 days.

00:04:52.540 I told the president, you may have to adjust your golf schedule, your golf game, because we'll be busy.

00:04:56.560 But I think he would be willing to do it for 100 days.

00:04:58.920 Sir, are you planning on staying in the room?

00:05:01.540 With his relationship with him?

00:05:03.660 I'm not going to discuss with you what I talked about with President Trump.

00:05:07.540 My idea to put him at me for 100 days.

00:05:09.700 Sir, are you all planning on just staying in this room for now?

00:05:11.940 I guess so.

00:05:13.040 We'll pack a lunch.

00:05:14.160 Thank goodness my office is right across the hallway, because I go back and forth and have me a good cigar.

00:05:19.140 Congressman Troy Nelves joins us now.

00:05:22.800 Congressman, this is not actually a crazy idea.

00:05:25.800 Walk me through your logic on this.

00:05:28.540 Well, Steve, let's look at it now.

00:05:30.180 We've had 12 candidates that have offered themselves up to serve their country, serve this conference as Speaker of the House.

00:05:39.880 We had our all-star team.

00:05:41.420 We had McCarthy in there, Steve Scleese.

00:05:43.360 We threw him out.

00:05:44.580 We threw Jim Jordan, the second most popular Republican, out.

00:05:47.600 And then we had eight or nine others willing to put themselves up front and serve our community.

00:05:53.980 And we've rejected all those, too.

00:05:56.420 So now here we're to the point now, what are we going to do?

00:05:59.140 Go into a third round now?

00:06:01.320 Are we now going to pick somebody who really doesn't even want the job?

00:06:05.280 But our bench is very thin, Steve.

00:06:08.940 And I just said to myself, Jim Jordan, the second most popular Republican, he should have been our Speaker.

00:06:14.400 He was rejected by 20 or 23.

00:06:17.380 So I don't think really, I don't know if anybody can get there.

00:06:20.240 I've even said that the Lord Jesus couldn't get to 217.

00:06:23.040 So if Jim, the second most popular Republican, why don't we bring in our first?

00:06:28.120 Why don't we bring in our all-star, the leader of our party, and put him in here for 100 days?

00:06:34.680 Let him come in here and fix this place, clean this place up, unite our conference, and make sure that we do everything possible to ensure that he gets into the White House in 2024.

00:06:45.300 It just makes sense to me.

00:06:49.040 Congressman, if you look at the critical path, because we had advocated the 100 days, too.

00:06:53.120 If you look at your critical path of the next 100 days, a lot of this is not just uniting the conference, but some very tough negotiations.

00:07:00.580 Tough negotiations on a CR, tough negotiations on getting all the appropriations done, the conference with the Senate, appropriators, then with the White House, make sure we don't get an omnibus.

00:07:11.540 Everything is going on geopolitically, the invasion on the southern border, even leave the investigation aside.

00:07:18.180 I can't think of someone in the conservative movement or in MAGA that has a better skill set than Donald J. Trump for the next 100 days.

00:07:27.780 Do you?

00:07:29.240 No, that's exactly right, because he's a proven warrior.

00:07:33.520 His success when he served as a president for four years.

00:07:36.780 So there's a guy, he knows how to make a deal, the art of the deal.

00:07:39.920 And I think he could do just that.

00:07:41.840 I think he can cut deals.

00:07:43.420 He can make sure that the 100 days he's here, they are successful.

00:07:47.440 I think having him walk into our conference and talk to the members there and even those that have some reservation about him, whether it's my colleagues, my friends from New York, I'm telling you, you're stronger with Donald Trump in the primary and the general election.

00:08:02.680 It will be fantastic for you.

00:08:04.880 Donald Trump will carry the water for us.

00:08:07.160 So let's do the right thing.

00:08:08.840 Let's bring in Donald Trump, because the sad fact is we haven't brought in anybody.

00:08:14.420 I mean, even with Tom Emmer, Tom Emmer didn't get the 200 votes.

00:08:18.380 So he dropped out of this thing, but I didn't think he could get there in the first place.

00:08:22.440 So let's quit playing around.

00:08:24.940 Let's bring in Donald Trump, the leader of our party, and let's do what's right for America and put the American people first.

00:08:31.300 I think he would have my support.

00:08:32.560 Congress, also, one of the things that's happening, you tell that some people, the Byron Donalds, they're trying to do this on the fly.

00:08:42.920 In your plan, because I think your plan actually has, because they want to put McHenry up as a compromise to the Democrats.

00:08:48.160 I think Trump as an interim makes sense, because wouldn't it give Donalds and Hearn and Johnson and whoever else is out there in the conference, it would give them 100 days to socialize, to talk to the five families, to put their plan forward, to be able to think it through.

00:09:03.620 It would give them time to actually get a plan that can unite the conference on a go-forward basis, couldn't it?

00:09:10.700 That's right.

00:09:11.440 What a hell of a team that would make.

00:09:13.020 When you've got Donald Trump as the speaker and you have strong leadership, whether it's Steve Scalise, Jim Jordan, Byron Donalds, and all these other guys, I think that you put those bright minds in the same room that we will make the right decisions in the House of Representatives.

00:09:29.760 And again, it's temporary. It's 100 days. You know, people said he's running for president. We can't have him. He's got to be running for president.

00:09:37.960 Folks, let's be clear. The primary's over. The primary's over. Donald Trump is our candidate. He's going to be our nominee.

00:09:45.380 I think he could handle being up here for 100 days. And he would do it. I believe he would do it because he loves this country.

00:09:52.020 He loves the Republican Party. And he wants us to get back on track. He's watching television. He sees what's happening in Israel.

00:10:00.280 He knows what's been happening in Ukraine. None of this would have happened. None of it would have happened if he would be in the White House right now.

00:10:06.760 So I think we've got a proven leader in Donald Trump. And let's get to work and bring him in here for 100 days.

00:10:11.900 Congressman, what's your social media, your website, the office? Because I know a lot of this audience is going to want to try to make contact or figure out how to help you do this, because this has a brilliant internal logic to it that makes total sense.

00:10:27.340 It's just somebody just has to step up and make it happen. So how do people get more access to you that they can come to your aid?

00:10:33.380 This is the same group that just beat up Emmer. So this is and they beat up Emmer because he was never Trump.

00:10:41.280 How do these people reach out to you? How do they make contact?

00:10:44.940 It's at Rep Troy Nails at Rep Troy Nails. Pretty easy to find me.

00:10:49.520 Listen, I'm an America first patriot. I'm a supporter of Donald A. Trump.

00:10:53.080 Let's make sure that he gets the White House in 2024. And that's what we should be doing in Congress, helping him get there. God bless.

00:11:01.180 Congressman, thank you so much. Great idea.

00:11:03.840 Let me bring in another one of the warriors, Alex Brusil, which listen, Alex, let me let me get the the unpleasant part of the way for us.

00:11:12.280 You and Price in this in that in that group of yours are some of the most effective influencers, hardest workers, people that have a sense of what's going on.

00:11:21.760 President Trump came in with this true social and it was brutal and it was needed.

00:11:27.040 I think that I think that definitely got people's attention because there's a lot of rumors running in particular.

00:11:32.600 I think it waves some people off who are who are strong Trump supporters who might been, you know, thinking about thinking about going with Emmer.

00:11:40.320 So it was very powerful and came in at the perfect time.

00:11:43.820 However, we should have never been in this situation.

00:11:46.620 You need a political operation that is on top of things.

00:11:49.860 You need a president.

00:11:50.480 President Trump has got too much on his shoulders.

00:11:52.760 He's got a four indictments, 91 charges, 700 years in federal prison, you know, in all different venues.

00:12:00.780 They're all over him.

00:12:01.680 He's up in a courtroom right now where they're trying to liquidate his company.

00:12:04.860 He's running he's 60 points ahead and running in a presidential primary where he's got every wealthy billionaire that's trying to come up with every different idea how to defeat him.

00:12:15.100 He's got too much on his plate.

00:12:18.160 He can't be figuring out like doing a whip count on a on a guy like Emmer's who's telling people, oh, yeah, I'm really pro Trump.

00:12:26.680 I love Trump.

00:12:27.220 I campaign for Trump.

00:12:28.040 What do we got to do here about like getting a real political operation where you've got killers like yourselves, Price and others that are actually on Capitol Hill and getting things done and putting forward Trump's agenda?

00:12:42.120 Well, look, I think from the campaign perspective, the campaign is crushing it.

00:12:46.880 President Trump is up by 50, 60 points in the polls on that end.

00:12:51.220 I think the campaign team has been phenomenal.

00:12:52.980 Well, you know, if President Trump picked up the phone and called and asked me to come on board and join his political team, I absolutely do that in a heartbeat.

00:13:01.460 But I don't know if I have to necessarily be on the official team to be making a difference.

00:13:06.240 I was working with a lot of the 26 holdouts during this time period.

00:13:10.860 Emmer was never going to be a choice.

00:13:13.220 And I know that you were very firm on that as well.

00:13:16.360 Laura Loomer was very great on that.

00:13:18.060 D.C.

00:13:18.420 Drano had been on the front lines pushing back against that.

00:13:21.140 And so I don't think we necessarily have to be in the room to be making a difference.

00:13:26.940 But, you know, Tom Emmer was never a friend of President Trump. 0.98

00:13:30.340 And you tweeted yesterday, kiss the ring or the kiss the ring call that Tom Emmer called President Trump to suck up. 0.98

00:13:38.800 And you would smile out about that. 1.00

00:13:40.600 And he's a total phony. 0.70

00:13:42.060 He's not with us at all.

00:13:43.480 And God bless people like Jim Banks, Troy Nels, Corey Mills, Max Miller, Marjorie Taylor Greene that held the line and said, hey, we're not with you because you're not with us.

00:13:53.260 And so that they deserve a lot of respect for that.

00:13:56.620 And some people that voted to oust McCarthy and then voted for Emmer, they don't look like they did the first thing in principle.

00:14:04.380 They did it more in politics.

00:14:08.260 Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to think that one through.

00:14:10.460 By the way, I want to say that I reposted the great Tim Miller, former RNC spokesman, now MSNBC contributor, who's no friend of MAGA.

00:14:20.200 He actually put that up or retweeted.

00:14:22.380 Alex, hang on for a second.

00:14:23.900 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:25.080 What I want to do when we get back is actually go through and how did this happen, because this is the self-organizing principle that's making the MAGA movement just a such a massive political force, the force that's in back of President Trump.

00:14:39.560 He's got a 50 or 60 point lead in this primary, as Alex just said, and he's going to destroy Joe Biden.

00:14:46.480 Short commercial break.

00:14:47.980 Emmer is out.

00:14:49.420 What's next in the war room?

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00:16:44.300 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:16:46.380 Bannon.

00:16:48.440 The Washington Post has got a piece up.

00:16:50.860 It's in one of their affiliate papers.

00:16:52.620 I'll get up.

00:16:53.260 But they admit today, and I'm going to show you in print, a $2 trillion, over a $2 trillion deficit.

00:16:59.000 They backed out the phony number of taking away the college loan scam.

00:17:04.360 $2 trillion.

00:17:04.940 We're going to get into that and what it's doing to destroy this country.

00:17:08.120 Also, the invasion of our country. 0.96

00:17:10.780 I'll go in a sec when I finish with Alex to Ben Burkwam.

00:17:14.280 Ben has made it from the courtroom in New York City.

00:17:17.020 He's made it down to the Delmarva Peninsula.

00:17:19.580 We'll go there in a moment to talk to one of the brave law enforcement officers that are trying to stem the tide of lawlessness and anarchy.

00:17:25.800 He brought about this invasion, the two most critical issues facing the nation.

00:17:30.380 Alex, just for the audience's sake, this is important because you're one of the main drivers of this.

00:17:34.460 You and the D.C. Dranos and Price, all that.

00:17:36.820 You've got – when we left the air today, they had just finished the fourth or getting close to the fifth vote where he was becoming the speaker designee as the never-Trumper. 0.93

00:17:47.520 And then we come back on at five, and he's already said no mas.

00:17:52.240 He threw in the towel.

00:17:53.880 Just give me a minute or two.

00:17:55.080 How did that happen?

00:17:56.040 How did – because this was purely – President Trump came in, I think, about 2 o'clock, 2.30 with that brutal true social post.

00:18:02.300 But this was a self-organizing effort by all of MAGA.

00:18:07.500 Tell me how it happened.

00:18:09.140 Absolutely.

00:18:09.940 I think our people are fired up.

00:18:12.160 They are sick of watching our country go to hell.

00:18:14.040 They're sick of watching the Democrats use the Department of Justice to target people like you, target President Trump, and just attack our movement, and nobody's fighting back against it.

00:18:24.720 And so we aren't going to settle for a speaker that is not prepared to fight.

00:18:29.460 If Speaker McCarthy all of a sudden says, I'm going to do all these different things, I think they'll welcome Speaker McCarthy back into the fold.

00:18:35.980 But we aren't going to just sit back and let Republicans in Washington, let the Democrats get away with this.

00:18:42.740 And so they're fired up.

00:18:43.740 They're engaged.

00:18:44.620 People like you are telling them to stay involved.

00:18:47.460 And I think that Republicans are going to have to eventually pick a speaker, obviously.

00:18:53.420 President Trump for 100 days would be amazing.

00:18:55.700 But I don't know if President Trump wants to do that.

00:18:57.500 And I'm seeing people like Elise Stefanik's name emerge.

00:19:01.660 I know Elise is a friend of the program.

00:19:03.400 And what I like about Elise is that a lot of Republicans, when they go to Washington, D.C., they get more liberal.

00:19:09.580 Elise went to Washington, D.C. and became more conservative.

00:19:12.260 She's one of President Trump's strongest allies in Washington.

00:19:15.120 And what I also like about her is that she surrounded herself with a lot of competent consultants.

00:19:20.540 And you know just as well as I do, Steve, is that it's not just the member or the politician that matters.

00:19:25.760 It's who's in the office.

00:19:27.120 Alex DeGrasse is a friend of the program as well.

00:19:29.560 He's as MAGA as they come.

00:19:31.060 And that's her right hand.

00:19:32.900 And so, you know, if we can't get one of a Byron Donaldson or if we can't get a Jim Jordan in, I look at somebody like Elise Stefanik that is able to build a coalition that can unite MAGA and bring some of the moderates into the fold.

00:19:47.240 She's become a more talented politician and significantly more conservative over the years. 0.99

00:19:53.680 And she's a name that I'm hearing a lot of chatter about at the moment.

00:19:58.940 Yeah, I think what's going to be important, we need – and particularly, Alex, you know when we went in 24, what we have to do to really deconstruct this government, to start to take the American empire, which has dragged this country down, and start to get real alliances, not protectorates.

00:20:15.080 What we have to do to make America first, particularly shut down the border and start the mass deportations. 0.83

00:20:22.700 We need the House to be totally aligned because we're going to have the McConnell problem. 0.99

00:20:28.040 We just got to face that.

00:20:29.300 We need a team in leadership in the House that is directly in sync with President Trump and his team on policies, on moves, on all of it.

00:20:39.000 That is the most important point.

00:20:41.060 And if we can't get President Trump for 100 days because he's got a couple other things going on, then we have to get a team that's completely in line with him, can speak his language, and can work with his team.

00:20:51.220 Then you've got DeGrasse or others or if it's Byron Donald.

00:20:53.820 We just have to make sure whoever's doing this is totally in line with what President Trump's doing.

00:20:59.960 Alex, how do people get you on social media?

00:21:01.800 You were absolutely main battery, as we say, in the surface warfare business.

00:21:07.480 You were main battery on this.

00:21:08.780 How do people track you?

00:21:11.600 You can follow me at all social media platforms, at Alex Bruzowitz.

00:21:15.860 And thank you for the kind words, Steve, and thank you for being a leader in this fight.

00:21:20.580 And you have one of the most important voices in the country.

00:21:23.240 And it's always great to join you.

00:21:26.900 By the way, it's simple.

00:21:28.340 This audience, I've never seen, Alex, I've never seen this audience as fired up.

00:21:31.860 They are on point.

00:21:32.780 They're getting the work done.

00:21:34.000 So thank you so much.

00:21:35.320 Honored to have you on here.

00:21:36.120 Great work today.

00:21:36.700 Their folks are ringing off the hook, man.

00:21:38.780 They know it.

00:21:39.600 Their staff knows it.

00:21:41.080 And I think Ember knows it.

00:21:42.600 That's why Ember gave up after the first punch. 1.00

00:21:46.520 He gave up, man.

00:21:47.820 I thought he was a hockey player.

00:21:49.140 I thought he was going to take this one a couple of rounds, but it wouldn't be.

00:21:51.540 So let's count our blessing.

00:21:52.760 Thanks, Alex.

00:21:53.280 Also, when Alex talks about the phone calls and what you're doing, man, in the ramparts, there's a huge story in Politico.

00:22:01.340 I've just put it up on Getter.

00:22:02.700 And if Grace and Captain Bannon can get it out and Carly Bonet, let's get out to all the War Room audience, all the posse right now. 0.82

00:22:10.720 The $106 billion supplemental is in deep trouble.

00:22:15.520 The reason it's in deep trouble, they know that you absolutely reject it.

00:22:18.680 So I want you to read that article.

00:22:20.300 I'll break it down in the second hour.

00:22:22.120 We need to get on that, too.

00:22:23.220 So it's no time to rest, even while they're over there thinking about what's the next steps in the speaker battle.

00:22:29.440 The most important thing facing this country is the invasion of the southern border.

00:22:33.520 Ben Berquam, who's been from the Darien Gap to Midtown Manhattan to focus on the story, which is absolutely amazing, is now in Delmarva.

00:22:40.880 He was, as you know, this morning, he was in Midtown, and even with covering President Trump's, the liquidation of his company by the out-of-control New York, you know, the New York Attorney General, he really had, Alex, Ben, your story was really more about the invasion of the southern border.

00:22:58.620 He did great reporting today.

00:22:59.700 Where are you now?

00:23:00.540 Who are you with?

00:23:01.320 And tell me what's happening down on the beautiful Delmarva Peninsula about the invasion of our country.

00:23:06.980 Well, Steve, as you mentioned, we started with President Trump, but we're down here in Salisbury, Maryland, Wicomico County, Maryland, with Sheriff Mike Lewis, and I just have to have Mike tell you this.

00:23:19.580 Sheriff, talk to us.

00:23:21.240 You were just telling me about this, what the Democrats have done in the state of Maryland with your jail, with crime, and this all connects back, Steve, and then what's going on on our southern border.

00:23:31.400 As you have guys like Gavin Newsom coming out saying that crime is down in America, talk to us about what has happened here.

00:23:37.620 It's truly shocking.

00:23:38.940 Well, first of all, there's a big difference in crime statistics versus arrest statistics.

00:23:43.460 The crime statistics have gone through the roof.

00:23:45.620 Our arrest statistics have gone down dramatically because we can't arrest people anymore.

00:23:49.940 They've changed laws dramatically here in Maryland.

00:23:51.700 They've passed unprecedented legislation that enables criminals, specifically juveniles, to commit unprecedented levels of crime.

00:23:59.140 We can't arrest a juvenile for hardly anything right now.

00:24:01.800 Just over my right shoulder, we have a 12-year-old that is incarcerated in the juvenile detention facility for the murder of his 2-year-old brother, wrapped a cord around his neck, and hung him from a bedpost.

00:24:11.900 When sheriff's deputies arrived on the scene, that's what they found on a Saturday afternoon.

00:24:15.760 Quite frankly, I was shocked they held the 12-year-old in the death of his 2-year-old brother.

00:24:19.400 But in most cases, we're apprehending juveniles every single day, in many cases with guns, loaded firearms with extended magazines like we had Sunday, with a 34-round extended magazine in any gun, and most of the time, they are releasing them back to the custody of their parents.

00:24:32.880 We're finding kids in automobiles that are valued at $100,000 each.

00:24:37.420 Following a brief pursuit, we take them into custody.

00:24:39.780 We can't charge them with anything.

00:24:41.020 Instead, we drive them home to mom and dad and cut them loose because of laws that have been passed here in the state of Maryland, most recently as last year, that virtually allowed criminals to conduct criminal activity undetected, unmolested, unabated.

00:24:53.720 We can apprehend them all day long, but they're not allowing us to do anything with them and drive them home for the most part unless it's a crime of violence.

00:24:59.640 Now, directly over my left shoulder, what I'm pointing to right now is the Wicomico County Detention Center, which holds 635 people.

00:25:06.320 We average now between 180 and 220 inmates because they've abolished bail system in the state of Maryland.

00:25:12.100 That was full when I first became sheriff back in 2006.

00:25:15.480 I'm in my fifth consecutive term as sheriff, spent 22 years as a Maryland state trooper, and my 40th year law enforcement, and I've never seen it this bad,

00:25:22.580 all because of progressive lawmakers in Annapolis, Maryland, who have turned our state upside down.

00:25:27.840 Criminals know that they can move to the state of Maryland and commit their crimes now with little or zero accountability.

00:25:33.260 They've hamstrung us from day one since they've started this aggressive agenda up in Annapolis,

00:25:38.960 and it's affecting my ability to attract and retain sheriff's deputies.

00:25:42.660 And that goes with attracting the fentanyl, the cartels, the rest of it.

00:25:47.300 Yeah, but hang on for one second.

00:25:51.460 Ask the sheriff, how dangerous has that made that just for what he just described?

00:25:56.560 How dangerous has that made that for the citizens?

00:25:58.540 It's made, and that's just it, Steve.

00:26:02.960 It's made it very dangerous for the citizens, because the citizens, I get calls all the time,

00:26:07.100 why aren't you doing more, Sheriff?

00:26:08.540 Why aren't you guys doing what you're used to?

00:26:10.100 I said, we can't.

00:26:11.020 They've passed legislation prohibiting law enforcement from doing our job.

00:26:14.720 For God's sake, Steve, they actually changed the force continuum in the state of Maryland.

00:26:18.800 They changed their, we no longer can arrest certain people for certain crimes.

00:26:23.500 Instead, when it comes to use of force, it's no longer what's objectionably reasonable in the use of force.

00:26:28.640 It's whatever's considered necessary and proportional.

00:26:31.680 Well, when they passed the law, when state lawmakers passed the law telling cops,

00:26:36.080 you can no longer shoot or use deadly force on anyone under the old objectionably reasonable standard.

00:26:42.740 Now, it's whatever's necessary and proportional.

00:26:45.940 Well, try getting a definition on necessary and proportional.

00:26:49.060 When we finally did get a definition, days before the law went into effect from our own attorney general,

00:26:54.540 it was a 36-page opinion that still did not define when we could or could not use lethal force.

00:27:01.160 That went into effect last year, so we're still waiting for the first test case.

00:27:05.360 So each deputy, each trooper is still waiting to be indicted.

00:27:09.520 We never know from one second to the next.

00:27:11.720 And I'll tell you what it's resulting in.

00:27:13.200 It's resulting in police officers being seriously injured, maimed, and disfigured.

00:27:17.100 And last year, on June 12, 2022, I had a sheriff's deputy shot and killed in this county

00:27:22.980 because he went to use his taser as opposed to his firearm.

00:27:26.820 And the suspect turned around with a laser-sighted firearm, a thug, 0.65

00:27:30.820 who had 29 previous interactions with law enforcement,

00:27:33.840 and at the age of 21 snuffed out the life of my deputy,

00:27:37.680 the proud father of three beautiful children.

00:27:40.000 He was killed because instead of using his firearm, he used his taser.

00:27:44.160 We're all scared to death to go to jail.

00:27:46.060 We now have an independent investigation division under the attorney general's office

00:27:50.200 who now has sole prosecutorial authority on law enforcement officer-involved shootings.

00:27:55.280 Not our local state attorneys.

00:27:56.780 Not our elected state attorneys who were elected by the people in our counties.

00:27:59.940 They now have prosecutorial authority over all cops.

00:28:03.560 And by the way, Steve, the chief prosecutor in the IID, the independent investigation division,

00:28:08.880 is none other than a woman by the name of Dana Malhauser,

00:28:11.240 who was recruited from Ferguson, Missouri, the St. Louis area,

00:28:15.140 following what happened out there in the Michael Brown incident.

00:28:17.320 She's now the chief prosecutor. 0.95

00:28:18.880 Wow.

00:28:20.220 Oh, my Lord.

00:28:21.340 Sheriff, hang right there.

00:28:22.580 Ben, hang right there.

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00:30:00.080 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:30:02.400 Okay, let's go back to the Delmarva Peninsula, Sheriff Mike and Ben Burquam, Mike Lewis and Ben Burquam.

00:30:12.120 Ben, go ahead and take it.

00:30:12.980 I want to hear about fentanyl.

00:30:14.000 I want to hear about the illegal alien crime. 0.59

00:30:15.800 I want to hear what's happening to that in one of the most beautiful parts of the country.

00:30:19.400 Ben Burquam.

00:30:22.840 Guys, just get ready.

00:30:23.980 I'm just telling you, just get ready for this.

00:30:25.340 It's not just BLM.

00:30:26.260 It's not just the Soros-ing of our DAs.

00:30:29.600 Sheriff, talk to us about the impact, the border impact on your community.

00:30:32.780 Well, make no mistake about it.

00:30:34.220 What crosses the border today is in my backyard tomorrow.

00:30:36.600 We're seeing it every day.

00:30:37.400 And just three weeks ago when I was down in McAllen, Texas, and talked to you, Ben,

00:30:41.300 I had just returned from a briefing where my deputies have been violently assaulted on a call involving illegals in the southern part of my county.

00:30:49.920 And then on the way back to the sheriff's office from that call, they were nearly struck head-on by a pickup truck that was traveling southbound and northbound lanes of U.S. Route 13,

00:30:58.260 right here on the Delmarva Peninsula, when he got turned around and got the truck stopped, another illegal alien operating that truck. 0.72

00:31:04.100 He was extremely intoxicated, was taken into custody.

00:31:06.660 But as you well know, nothing happens to them.

00:31:09.420 They're simply released.

00:31:10.760 They will not incarcerate.

00:31:12.240 They've abolished the bail system here in the state of Maryland.

00:31:14.440 We have a jail that typically has between 180 and 230, 220, 230 people in it.

00:31:20.300 And we're usually hovering around 180, 190 right now.

00:31:23.780 But we can hold 635 people.

00:31:26.340 It was full years ago.

00:31:27.120 It's no longer full.

00:31:28.120 So the fentanyl that crosses the border today in 2013, the United States Border Patrol seized 22.7 pounds fentanyl,

00:31:35.000 the first time it was ever seen and coming into the United States, or seized for that matter.

00:31:39.480 Nine years later, in 2022, last year, they seized just under 9,000 pounds of fentanyl.

00:31:45.960 That's about a United States Border Patrol.

00:31:47.660 That says nothing to what the deputies and troopers doing across the state

00:31:50.660 and their interdiction efforts on our interstates, on our U.S. routes,

00:31:53.780 and all the arteries coming into our major cities.

00:31:56.680 Right now, the United States is awash.

00:31:59.420 This is a national security crisis that affects Americans every single day.

00:32:03.220 It's not what happens down at the border.

00:32:04.520 They're not staying at the border.

00:32:05.580 They're coming deep into the United States. 0.95

00:32:06.880 I live in the mid-Atlantic region, United States of America.

00:32:09.120 We are awash right now with illegals here in this county. 1.00

00:32:12.820 And whether you know this or not, we had a state circuit court judge executed last Thursday

00:32:18.120 here in the state of Maryland, in Hagerstown, Maryland, executed in his driveway.

00:32:22.320 Who was the suspect?

00:32:23.660 A man whose case he heard earlier that day in court,

00:32:26.560 where he awarded custody of the man's four children to the estranged wife.

00:32:32.140 The judge was stalked.

00:32:33.280 He was executed in his driveway, and the man has vanished.

00:32:36.800 Where is he from?

00:32:37.880 Who is he?

00:32:38.440 A Venezuelan national.

00:32:40.520 No one knows where he's from.

00:32:42.420 No one knows where he's from.

00:32:44.160 Was he, you said he was illegal?

00:32:46.180 Oh, I don't know if he's legal or not.

00:32:47.400 We're not allowed to ask that question.

00:32:48.900 Are you here legal or not?

00:32:49.940 We can't even ask that question now.

00:32:51.720 On traffic cops, doing arrests.

00:32:53.360 We're not even allowed to ask someone their legal status here in the United States.

00:32:56.440 That is prohibited by state law.

00:32:58.540 Hold it, Ben.

00:33:01.420 I want to ask, before we leave the sheriff, you guys.

00:33:04.220 You know, the Delaware, Maryland, Virginia peninsula is between the Chesapeake Bay and the Atlantic Ocean.

00:33:10.580 It's the land of pleasant living.

00:33:12.100 It's one of the most gentle, nicest, most beautiful parts of the country.

00:33:16.340 And you're telling me it's basically a crime hellhole now, principally because of fentanyl and because of the crime coming up from the border?

00:33:23.880 Without a doubt, Steve, we're actually having daily meetings right now with my state senator, who is a very conservative state senator, Miss Barry Beth Carroza, and my local state's attorney, Jamie Dykes, to address the massive increase in crime.

00:33:39.880 It's affecting everyone right now.

00:33:41.720 And the illegals, and there's no accountability right now.

00:33:44.560 And I frequently get phone calls.

00:33:46.280 What are you guys doing about the illegals?

00:33:48.060 We can't ask questions any longer.

00:33:49.960 We're no longer allowed to ask anyone regarding their legal status.

00:33:53.080 So, and what people don't understand is when we do arrest someone, oftentimes there's a clear language barrier.

00:33:59.520 I don't speak Spanish.

00:34:00.900 Most of my guys don't speak Spanish.

00:34:02.640 I do have guys that are fluent in Spanish, but very few and far between.

00:34:06.500 So we have to hire state translators.

00:34:09.740 At a cost to taxpayers, we have to hire them to come in and be translators, not just at their initial appearance, but at their suppression hearings, at their trial hearings.

00:34:18.640 And it's very costly to the American taxpayer, certainly to the Maryland taxpayers.

00:34:24.040 Unbelievable.

00:34:25.380 Ben, what's the social media?

00:34:27.340 Ben, where do they get you on RAV, what you're posting?

00:34:30.360 And I know you're going to do a ride with the sheriff.

00:34:32.140 Sheriff, do you have social media?

00:34:33.280 How do people find out more about you?

00:34:37.120 Wicomico County Sheriff's Office, we are on Facebook.

00:34:39.400 They can certainly Google me and find my Facebook.

00:34:41.740 I'm on Facebook under Sheriff Mike Lewis, on Facebook under Mike Lewis.

00:34:45.420 But to have them Google the Wicomico County Sheriff's Office, my number, my contact information is very much public.

00:34:51.920 And I welcome any comments.

00:34:53.680 And by the way, I'm going to be a sheriff was just telling me about something where they're the state lawmakers are trying to limit sheriff's ability to speak publicly because they know they have such a big impact.

00:35:02.860 We have to stop that in Maryland.

00:35:04.520 We have to stop that across America.

00:35:06.140 I know, Sheriff, you stand with President Trump and all of this.

00:35:09.600 But every single sheriff, these guys are the last line of defense when it comes to law enforcement in our states.

00:35:15.400 You know, and I want the American people to know this, Steve, and I want you to know this.

00:35:19.100 Under the Trump administration, I personally was at the White House countless times under President Trump, as were a number of other sheriffs from across the nation.

00:35:27.260 But we weren't just meeting with the president for political purposes.

00:35:30.660 We were meeting with the president every single time for a meeting.

00:35:33.840 We were addressing serious crime in our nature.

00:35:35.700 We were meeting in our country.

00:35:38.000 We were meeting with Department of Homeland Security officials.

00:35:40.900 Every time we went there, there was a nexus to criminal cases.

00:35:44.840 We were working.

00:35:45.740 The president was very much interested in what we were seeing, what trends we were seeing across this country.

00:35:51.060 Since President Trump left office, we have not.

00:35:53.960 When I say we, I can confidently say every single sheriff that I went to the White House with, not one of us has been invited back to Washington, D.C., specifically the White House.

00:36:03.140 Not one of us.

00:36:05.000 It's national suicide.

00:36:06.340 You guys can follow me at Ben Berquam.

00:36:08.400 And next episode, Law and Border, coming out.

00:36:10.380 Actually, we have a special episode coming out Thursday, so stay tuned for the details on that.

00:36:15.320 We'll get it.

00:36:15.820 Sheriff Lewis, you and your men and women be safe protecting people out there.

00:36:19.860 Just absolute incredible.

00:36:22.420 Thank you, sir.

00:36:23.020 Thank you, sir.

00:36:24.220 That's what's happened to your country.

00:36:25.620 That's what this fight on Capitol Hill's bet.

00:36:28.500 Thank you, brother.

00:36:29.620 We're just here.

00:36:30.140 We got the easiest job in the world, putting heroes like you up.

00:36:33.940 Look what's happened to this country.

00:36:35.740 You got guys like Sheriff Lewis.

00:36:37.720 I mean, this is the backbone of the country.

00:36:39.040 Keep people safe.

00:36:40.820 Look what's happened.

00:36:41.680 Overwhelmed because an invasion on the southern border and the Democrats are in back of it, the elites are in back of it, and nobody will lift a finger to stop it.

00:36:49.260 And people are dying.

00:36:50.440 The fentanyl is killing people, destroying these communities.

00:36:54.260 The cost of it is out of control.

00:36:55.720 Well, it's going to affect education, health care, all of it.

00:36:59.720 All of it.

00:37:01.580 Do we have enough time?

00:37:02.360 Let's play.

00:37:02.740 I got the Joe Allen is about to start a big tour.

00:37:04.700 I got to get this in on Joe.

00:37:06.360 This book is on fire.

00:37:08.120 Let's play the cold open and bring Joe Allen in.

00:37:11.040 Like, I would be surprised if there is not digital superintelligence in roughly the 506-year time frame.

00:37:17.680 The more and more you have drones, and what's the actual threat of autonomous weapon systems?

00:37:22.140 How does it go wrong?

00:37:23.520 I think it should be required.

00:37:24.780 Right.

00:37:25.280 So that's...

00:37:25.660 No, no, no.

00:37:26.120 I think it should be required that only aerial vehicles are automated.

00:37:29.020 Okay.

00:37:29.320 So you want to go the other way.

00:37:30.220 I want to go the other way.

00:37:30.960 Okay.

00:37:31.140 I think it's obvious that the machine is going to make a better decision than the human pilot.

00:37:33.880 I think it's obvious that it's in the best interest of both the attacker and the defender and humanity at large if machines are making more of these decisions and not people.

00:37:40.160 I think people make terrible decisions in times of war.

00:37:42.320 This goes back to the whole...

00:37:43.320 This is that whole thing about, like, does the self-driving car need to be perfect versus does it need to be better than the human driver?

00:37:48.400 Does the automated drone need to be perfect or does it need to be better than a human pilot at making decisions under enormous amounts of stress and uncertainty?

00:37:55.660 As a leader of a country that is an AI player and could be a big player if we have our way, and I think we will,

00:38:02.800 now we want to increase the blessings for not only for ourselves, but for all of humanity.

00:38:07.780 So if we were to be so dumb as to create entities that are much more powerful than us that don't share our goals, yeah, that's a really bad idea.

00:38:17.840 I mean, in Israel, I think you understand really, really well that if you have a bunch of other beings who are intelligent and don't share your values, you know, it can go really badly, right? 0.95

00:38:29.520 We could also, I think, very likely end up in a situation where people have no jobs because there are no people anymore, where we literally go extinct.

00:38:38.560 With AI, are we on the brink of a new era or the end of humanity as we know it?

00:38:42.680 Imagine a world where our brains merge with machines, our DNA can be upgraded, and our very essence exists in a digital realm.

00:38:51.780 Is this the world that is coming?

00:38:53.960 How will these advancements change the very fabric of our society, our values, and our identities?

00:39:00.880 What does it mean for our spirituality and connection to a higher power?

00:39:04.580 Join us on Wednesday, November 15th in Nashville, Tennessee, for an exclusive event with author Joe Allen that dives deep into the world of technology, spirituality, and the future of humanity.

00:39:16.720 Discover the philosophy, dangers, and profound implications of a post-human world.

00:39:22.120 Join us live in Nashville for this event or virtually on our live stream access.

00:39:26.240 Visit our website to get tickets while seats are still available.

00:39:28.960 All proceeds from this event are going to charity.

00:39:34.580 Wow. Joe Allen. Big League.

00:39:39.080 Man, that is a quite—so the tour is going to start.

00:39:41.680 The Dark Aeon Tour is about to start.

00:39:44.640 You got me wanting to go to Nashville.

00:39:46.220 Walk us through what's going to happen.

00:39:47.460 And walk me through that cold open.

00:39:49.160 I was scared enough coming away with Sheriff Lewis.

00:39:52.180 You made me feel even worse.

00:39:55.160 Yeah, Steve, this is all in addition, obviously, to everything that's happening at the border,

00:40:00.320 everything that's happening in Israel, everything that's happening in Ukraine, and it rides on top of it.

00:40:07.580 That was, of course, the venture capitalist Mark Andreessen.

00:40:11.220 He met today at Chuck Schumer's AI Summit on Capitol Hill alongside Max Tegmark.

00:40:20.080 That was the second person we heard there.

00:40:22.500 Mark Andreessen recently published his Techno Optimist Manifesto.

00:40:27.420 The Manifesto has a number of agreeable things for those on the right,

00:40:32.760 but I think there's a few things that really should be highlighted.

00:40:35.680 The number one passage I would like to highlight is this.

00:40:40.380 In his manifesto, he declares,

00:40:43.280 We believe artificial intelligence is our alchemy.

00:40:47.620 We are literally making sand think.

00:40:51.140 They are making rocks that speak.

00:40:54.380 It's a spiritual impulse.

00:40:57.960 And if Denver can throw up a recent tweet that Andreessen put out,

00:41:02.920 it is the height of the cyborg theocracy.

00:41:06.960 These guys believe that they will conjure an intelligence in a machine

00:41:12.120 that will not only be able to more effectively kill other human beings,

00:41:16.700 but will also save humanity from our worst impulses and from nature herself.

00:41:23.400 This is going to be the topic, the overriding topic of the tour coming up.

00:41:30.020 First stop, November 5th, Indianapolis.

00:41:32.500 Next stop, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, November 8th.

00:41:36.800 November 15th, a very special event in Nashville, Tennessee at the Phoenix Lodge.

00:41:42.480 You definitely want to get your tickets.

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00:41:46.380 10% off after that, Kansas City, Missouri, November 18th.

00:41:52.160 And then a few stops in between, Texas, Arizona, yet to be determined,

00:41:58.480 ending up in California at the American Freedom Alliance in L.A., Los Angeles.

00:42:06.320 That's December 2nd.

00:42:07.680 And then I believe it's Tulase, California at the Reawakening America Tour.

00:42:14.240 So all of that is up on my site, joebot.xyz.

00:42:17.880 Top of my social media, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z.

00:42:22.320 And of course, warroom.org, top of the page.

00:42:25.840 And if Mo and Grace Chong can go ahead and push that out,

00:42:31.320 I want everybody to see where Joe is going to be speaking.

00:42:33.680 And remember, these wars right now, a huge part of this is going to have artificial intelligence,

00:42:39.820 the testing ground, the beta site for AI, where they're going to take it next level,

00:42:44.180 and then you're going to have the singularity as all happened on these battlefields throughout the world.

00:42:47.760 Joe, one more time, social media, where do people get you, particularly get this schedule?

00:42:51.440 Nobody's – if you're in these areas, you want to see Joe live with these presentations.

00:42:55.380 Where do they go?

00:42:57.440 That's going to be November 5th, Indianapolis, Indiana.

00:43:01.060 November 8th, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

00:43:04.180 November 15th, Nashville, Tennessee.

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00:43:09.880 Dates in Austin, Texas.

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00:43:32.040 Yeah.

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00:43:36.860 Keep grinding, brother.

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00:45:29.300 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:45:32.060 Mike Lindell is going to join us.

00:45:35.900 He's going to come back tomorrow to talk about what's happened on the factory floor because we've got Congressman Bob Good joins us.

00:45:41.780 Congressman, you were one of the, because you're a social conservative, you were one of the mainstays in the fight, you and Jim Banks, to take down Emmer.

00:45:49.080 You also, sir, your story on the arc of your story and actually trying to give Kevin McCarthy a shot was probably the most powerful thing that was said during the, right before the vote on McCarthy that removed him as speaker.

00:46:02.360 Where do we stand right now?

00:46:03.560 Tell us about the Emmer situation.

00:46:05.480 Where do we go?

00:46:05.960 I hear it's 630.

00:46:06.740 You guys are going to funnel back in there.

00:46:08.740 And I keep hearing rumors that Kevin McCarthy, I keep saying the specter of Kevin McCarthy overshadows all this.

00:46:16.080 Congressman Bob Good of Virginia.

00:46:18.020 Great to be with you again, Steve.

00:46:19.320 Thanks for having me.

00:46:20.340 Tom Emmer graciously withdrew from consideration.

00:46:23.980 And Tom's a good man.

00:46:25.720 He's a strong whip.

00:46:27.320 He's an honest guy.

00:46:28.620 He's a tough guy.

00:46:29.920 But there were a number of reasons why about 30 of us had let him know that we just couldn't support him for speaker.

00:46:35.480 And, you know, there's no point in revisiting that unless you particularly want to.

00:46:39.440 But when he realized he didn't have the votes, as he said he would, as he said he would, he said, hey, if I don't have the votes, go to the floor.

00:46:45.240 I'm not going to go to the floor.

00:46:46.760 And so he graciously withdrew himself this afternoon.

00:46:49.340 In the most recent vote, it had come down to Tom Emmer and Mike Johnson, strong conservative, former RSC chair from Louisiana.

00:47:00.140 And Tom Emmer had gotten 117 votes, I think it was, to Mike Johnson's 97.

00:47:05.040 So a slight majority.

00:47:07.460 But then we had a roll call vote in the conference, just like we would on the floor, but it was among just the 220 or so of us.

00:47:16.540 And Emmer only got 188 votes.

00:47:19.300 So then he took some time to meet with those of us who were not able to vote for him.

00:47:23.400 And he realized that he wasn't going to be able to get there.

00:47:25.600 And, again, graciously, he didn't put the conference through further delay or having to go to the House floor.

00:47:31.060 And I'm grateful that he did that.

00:47:32.780 So now we turn the page, and I think there were other candidates who were in the mix who finished sort of second, third, fourth.

00:47:41.560 Mike Johnson, as I mentioned, from Louisiana.

00:47:43.540 Kevin Hearn from Oklahoma, who leads the Republican Study Committee now.

00:47:46.640 He's been an ally of the Freedom Caucus.

00:47:48.900 He's a self-made guy, grew up from very humble roots, didn't have anything, and grew to be, I believe, the largest franchise owner in McDonald's and has been in Congress just a short time.

00:48:00.280 I think this is in his third or fourth term.

00:48:03.920 And then Byron Donald, of course, who you know well from Florida.

00:48:07.520 Those three were kind of locked in a tight battle to see who could be the primary challenger to Emmer.

00:48:12.800 I don't know if all three are running again now.

00:48:15.480 We're going to have another candidate forum.

00:48:17.200 It's going to start in just a few minutes here at 6 o'clock p.m.

00:48:19.840 And we're going to have another candidate forum where those who were in the mix and those who want to jump in the mix are going to make their case, and then we're going to start voting tonight.

00:48:30.140 And my hope is, and I'm cautiously optimistic, that we will be able to select someone in conference.

00:48:35.420 I think folks are getting weary of the delay.

00:48:37.520 Maybe the resistance for the impurest of reasons are breaking down, the spitefulness, you know, the retaliatory things, I hope, for the majority of the conference.

00:48:45.900 And hopefully we can get to 217 and then get it voted on the floor very quickly.

00:48:50.880 You know, honestly, it's not going to be the person who might be my top five candidate for speaker.

00:48:55.920 It's not going to be, you know, for me, that Andy Biggs, that Chip Roy, that Matt Gaetz kind of a candidate who would be my top kind of five type candidates.

00:49:03.640 It's going to be someone who represents the conservative center of the conference, doesn't have a lot of opposition.

00:49:07.640 That means they've not been one of those real hardcore fighters that have challenged the status quo and tried to help us sort of drain the swamp from a congressional standpoint.

00:49:17.300 But it will be a solid conservative who represents the center of the conference, and it will be a big upgrade from where we were before.

00:49:25.140 Two members of Tennessee, Mark Green and Chuck Fleissman, have just announced they're also going to make a presentation at the conference.

00:49:31.520 I know Congressman Good is going to have to leave for in a second.

00:49:33.360 What about all kind of rumors out there that there may be a package of McCarthy and Jim Jordan as maybe co-speaker or speaker and assistant?

00:49:44.600 McCarthy may put up McHenry again for interim.

00:49:47.800 What can you do?

00:49:48.240 This audience, as you know, Congressman, are big fans of yours and have been at the ramparts in this thing.

00:49:54.380 Give us some guidance here.

00:49:55.340 Well, I'm not certain about the veracity of that because, obviously, I'm probably not first on the list for them to float that idea to.

00:50:04.100 But I will tell you that as we came back, we had a short recess after Emmer did not get the 217 votes that he needed.

00:50:15.060 He got, I think it was 188 in conference after he had gotten the majority over Mike Johnson.

00:50:19.980 And we had a vote, a roll call vote, so we all had to stand up and say the name, just like on the House floor.

00:50:24.740 And then he wanted to recess for a little bit to meet with those of us who, again, were not able to get there for him.

00:50:30.420 And, again, tough, painful conversations.

00:50:32.440 You've got to be brutally honest.

00:50:33.640 Unfortunately, we had to tell him why we weren't going to get there.

00:50:35.760 And, again, he graciously pulled out.

00:50:37.340 Well, then we come back into a conference meeting, and someone made the motion to,

00:50:42.380 why don't we just vote on the second-place guy, Mike Johnson, and see if he can get to 217.

00:50:48.440 Let's see if we can get there.

00:50:49.980 And, unfortunately, some folks objected, including Kevin McCarthy, objected to that.

00:50:55.040 And I suspect out of fear that he might have actually been able to get there.

00:50:58.660 So they want to slow down the process, I guess.

00:51:01.940 So we'll have a new candidate for him at 6 o'clock.

00:51:04.640 We're going to try to do it from an expedited basis, if you will, try to limit it a little bit.

00:51:09.520 I mean, if you haven't made your case yet, you don't know why you want to be speaker, you need more time,

00:51:12.920 you're probably not the right person.

00:51:14.640 So we'll have a candidate for him here at 6 o'clock.

00:51:17.900 And, again, hopefully we can get someone through.

00:51:22.160 Congressman, how do people follow you, social media, your website, all of it?

00:51:25.480 How do people keep up with you?

00:51:26.920 It's at repbobgood.

00:51:29.140 They can go to good.house.gov and get on my newsletter.

00:51:33.260 That's my congressional.

00:51:35.080 There's nothing political about that.

00:51:36.200 But they want to support me.

00:51:37.140 It's at bobgoodforcongress.com.

00:51:39.040 I appreciate you asking.

00:51:40.920 Because the swamp does strike back.

00:51:42.000 Congressman, thank you very much for joining us.

00:51:43.660 Thank you, Steve.

00:51:45.200 Somebody told me that.

00:51:47.040 Thank you, Congressman.

00:51:49.120 I think Congressman just had, I think it was had Gates just down there a while ago.

00:51:52.220 Maybe he has Gates this weekend.

00:51:53.840 Bob Good from God's Country, the heart of Virginia, down there around Charlottesville.

00:51:59.920 Mike Lindell will be with us tomorrow.

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00:52:09.280 We're going to take a short break.

00:52:10.340 We're going to come back.

00:52:11.120 I've got Peter Navarro.

00:52:13.360 Actually, Naomi Wolf.

00:52:14.200 So much stuff going on in the vaccine we haven't had a chance to get to.

00:52:17.460 Also, we're going to have all kind of breaking news about what's going on.

00:52:21.560 This is, I can't emphasize enough the self-organizing nature of this audience.

00:52:27.540 It was magnificent today.

00:52:28.840 It was magnificent.

00:52:29.580 Because there was a couple of minutes there towards the end of the morning show.

00:52:34.020 It might have looked a little grim when Emmer's, with all the work we had done, was still going to be the speaker-designée.

00:52:39.720 You never know.

00:52:40.300 You never know how these things are going to cut.

00:52:41.660 President Trump came out a little while after that, gave us his two cents, and that put the nail in the coffin for Emmer.

00:52:48.580 But what you guys had done up until then was absolutely magnificent.

00:52:51.840 You had the back of 26 folks who were saying no, and they knew you had your back.

00:52:57.000 So it was fantastic.

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Bannon's War Room - October 24, 2023

Episode 3125： Emmer Drops Out Of Speaker Race

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