Episode 3145： Fanning The Flames Of Inflation; Weaponizing Of The Colorado Court
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In this episode of The War Room, we discuss the alarming trend that has been going on since the Great Financial Crisis and how it relates to the U.S. government, the economy, and the future of the country.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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welcome to the war room it's natalie winters hosting probably picked up by now it's not
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stephen k band and we look and probably sound just a little bit different i guess maybe
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steve partied a little too hard yesterday on halloween of course just kidding but i'm filling
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in for him in the 5 p.m hour but don't worry he will be back tomorrow but don't go anywhere because
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we have a very packed show on november 1st in the year of our lord 2023 joining us i think we can
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call him a war room fan favorite certainly not a favorite of whether it's the medical
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establishment the vaccine manufacturers or any of these people who are tied up in these globalist
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plots to really take away your liberty your ability to live freely of course no friend to them is ed
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dowd who's joining us to discuss what really is some new charts coming from you but an alarming trend
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not just particularly on the federal level when you look at the debt to gdp ratio but how the states
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really play in at least from their debt perspective uh play into this i would say worrying kind of
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counter or rather imbalance um so and i know you have some charts i know the war room posse loves
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charts so if you want to walk us through some of these figures we can get in on the other side
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of these charts and to what it really means for the war room posse and for the country
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sure no problem so we put out a report called the great federal centralization and if we start with
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chart one most people are familiar with this chart it shows that after the great financial crisis
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uh they turned on the government spending to save the economy and jet debt to gdp has grown to 120
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from 60 uh in the great financial crisis period so we're all familiar with that chart but there's a
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little unnoticed trend that's been going on uh that you can see in chart two and what's been
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what's interesting about this is since the great financial crisis uh state debt and and and federal
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debt combined together is called total public debt at the great financial crisis period state debt was
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33 percent of public debt since the great financial crisis and the explosion the federal balance sheet
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uh state debt as a percent of total public debt is only 10 percent so what's been going on essentially
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is the u.s government has been subsidizing state budgets since the great financial crisis and right
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now most state budgets get 40 percent of their budget from the federal government that has resulted
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in a couple of interesting observations first uh the the states no longer need to compete for private
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capital in the bond markets but they do have to go to washington dc to compete for federal dollars and
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lobby and whatnot it also because of the centralization of power makes corruption more likely uh uh in the
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dc swamp and then thirdly the states have basically given up their economic and political sovereignty to the
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federal government and if you're wondering why states like texas and governor abbott haven't uh um
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basically uh sent their national guard down to the border now you know why and why states refuse to do
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certain things that that make that should make sense to those in the state they're they're still
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hostage to the federal dollars the the fourth observation and this is speculation on our part of
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finance technologies, is that if this merry-go-round continues, at some point, the state of the
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federal government and the U.S. bond market, and I'm talking many years from now, may not be able
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to support this game anymore. And states may repudiate the debt. And so we're sowing the
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seeds for a recession because some of the states, the stronger states with better economies,
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have better balance sheets, and at some point may want to secede. So the seeds of secession
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are in the debt markets, given the fact that the U.S. federal government has been subsidizing
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states since the great financial crisis. So that's an interesting, unnoticed trend. It also
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explains why things aren't going on at the border in Texas, as far as we're concerned. Any questions?
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Of course. You know, next to climate change, I think sustainability is probably the left's go-to
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word. They, of course, use it in a different sense, right? They talk about renewable energies and
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fossil fuels. But when you talk about sustainability, I think you bring up the very good point of what
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the United States is currently doing, whether it's borrowing against the future, just the runaway
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track that this train that is the United States economy is on is not sustainable. Maybe that also
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falls into the left's very good ability to use projection to try to defend themselves of everything
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they're guilty of. But, you know, you use the R word, right? You say recession. I'm curious if you could
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just sort of walk us down what you think the inevitable conclusion or culmination of these
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trends, if not changed, what it looks like. Yeah. So we were calling for a recession starting in the
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third quarter, fourth quarter this year. Our ECIs, early cycle indicators, were pointing down. They
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started picking back up again. But they're still showing recessionary-type numbers. We had a big GDP
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number just printed in the news. I think it was 4.9%. Basically, the federal government was the
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player in town that kept the economy afloat. The real economy is still showing abysmal indicators.
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So we suspect the wobble you've seen in the stock markets and the bond markets the last couple months
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is the capital markets sniffing out that this game of federal spending can't continue unabated.
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And at some point, the Fed, the Federal Reserve is going to have to come in again and do quantitative
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easing and or yield curve control to save this whole game yet again. But they won't do that until
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the economic numbers as such they can't hide it anymore. So we're still calling for a recession
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officially and a recession at some point in the next 12 months. But they definitely spent their way
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out of near depth in the last several months. I'm just curious, Ed, before I let you go, I know
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you're a hot commodity in media these days. So thank you for gracing the war room with your
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presence. But you talk about what I think really is the buried lead of the report, but you link it
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to, for example, Governor Abbott's policies when it comes to the southern border and the federal
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government's sort of ability to either stop or at least somehow impede the implementation of states
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from being able to do what they want. And I know you guys have always been sort of ahead of the
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curve really tracking what I think in the war room we call, you know, global government, right?
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These supranational entities like the United Nations of the world, the World Economic Forums of the
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world. And it seems like they would definitely be on the receiving end, right on the upside of the
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United States, continuing to consolidate power with the federal government, which we would argue here
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is basically the administrative state, right? You lose the ability to push back on these edicts,
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these dictates coming from the federal government. How do you think, I think COVID-19, you know,
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is a perfect example of the federal versus state kind of dichotomy. But how do you think that plays
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in to what, you know, the UNs of the world, the World Economic Forums of the world want? How does
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the United States centralizing our power and economic really future with the federal government sort of
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play into their hands? That's a great lead into chart three. Let's look at chart three. Let's do a
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little history lesson on COVID. So since the great financial crisis, the federal balance sheet has
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been growing, exploding as a percent of debt to GDP. And you can see that from the great financial
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crisis to right before COVID, we ballooned $11 trillion or a run rate of $1.1 trillion on average.
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Then after COVID, and COVID, mind you, was a war. That was warlike spending. We added another $8 trillion
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in a very short period of time. And that was $2.1 trillion annualized. So basically, COVID was a war.
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The states were held hostage by their budgets. And that's why so many states went along with the U.S.
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dictates. And they were unable to refuse or they were cajoled into going along. So that is just one
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example of the raw power we saw of the federal government implementing what they wanted through
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the states and through the soft control of the state budget. When you roll forward to your
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talk about the U.N., the WHO, and these supranational organizations, clearly they're going to try to get
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money from the federal government largesse of the U.S. And that needs to be put to a stop because those
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organizations are above our laws. They will try to impose their will upon us. So that is where the game
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rests. And, you know, Speaker McCarthy, when he basically betrayed the GOP and all the voters and
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basically he had an uncapped ceiling, the reason is that this game of credit creation needs the
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federal government to continually create debt to keep the Ponzi scheme going. So it's all tied to
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the credit markets. It's all tied to the monetary system. And the merry-go-round of spending and
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stealing continues. And Dow, thank you so much for joining us. If the war room posse wants to stay
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up to date with all the reports and charts and graphs for putting out your analysis, where can
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they follow you and all the work that you're doing? Well, our website has everything. It's
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financetechnologies.com, spelled with a P-H. We have all our vaccine research or economic stuff.
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We also, you can follow me on Twitter at DowdEdward, D-O-W-D-Edward, and on, or I guess X,
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they call it now, and then on, getter at Edward Dowd, post both places. So, and of course,
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my book, Cause Unknown, The Epidemic of Sudden Death in 21 and 22 on Amazon.
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Of course. No better time, I would say go to birchgold.com slash ban and to get your copy of
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the fourth installment of the end of the dollar empire. You can see the people who are running
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the economy much like this country, do not know what they're doing, or maybe it's a lot more
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insidious and nefarious than that. They know exactly what they're doing. They just don't care about you,
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your family, your financial future, any of that stuff, which frankly, wouldn't put that past them,
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but someone who is always keeping them on watch and giving you, I would argue, some of the best
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updates here in the war room is of course, EJ and Tony. EJ, I'll keep you through the break because we
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only got a few minutes, but I hear there are some new numbers out from the Fed. Doesn't look too
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good, although that's sort of the strapline of the Biden regime, despite the term Bidenomics. I don't
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know why they want to put his name on anything related to the current state of the economy,
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but I digress. But EJ, if you want to walk us through those numbers, like I said, I'll keep you
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through the break. Certainly. Well, Natalie, thank you for having me. As if the last fiscal year was not
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bad enough where we borrowed a massive $1.7 trillion, the Treasury has now announced that
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they're going to borrow another $1.6 trillion, but it's not going to be over the course of a year.
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Oh, no, this is just six months. The next six months is going to require almost as much borrowing
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as we had in the entire previous fiscal year. And by the way, the last fiscal year was over a 20%
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increase. It was about a 23% increase compared to the year before that. So things are just spiraling out
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of control very, very, very, very rapidly, something that we talked about on The War Room
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about a month ago, and it is coming to fruition already. Just curious, we're talking with Ed about
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the sustainability of the current fiscal trends that we see here, the just unabashed spending.
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How long, and please, if you can, I know it's just a guess, we won't hold you to it, but a concrete
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number in terms of whether the timeline or amount of money that we will run up against a point where
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there's no turning back. You know, how long do we have to turn this ship around?
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Natalie, that's a great question, and I'm not going to pretend to know the answer because it has proven
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to be different for different countries around the world at different periods in time. The point of no
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return for Weimar Germany was different than it was in Argentina or Venezuela or Greece or a million other
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different places. So we just have to hope and pray that we do still have time because it does feel
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like we are getting close to, if not already in, that financial doom loop, as it's sometimes called.
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It's kind of like if a family racks up a ton of credit card debt, Natalie, and then the financing
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charges on that debt. So we're just talking the interest. We're not talking about paying down the
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debt. Just the interest alone exceeds the family's income. Well, it makes it literally impossible
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to ever pay that debt down. It guarantees the debt is going to continue to grow month after month just
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because of the interest charges, even if you're not actually spending any additional money on that
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credit card. And we are thankfully not at that point yet as a nation, as a federal government,
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but that is the way we are headed, which is very, very scary.
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E.J., I'll hold you through the break because I want to get into more of that and unpack it. But
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Warren Posse, I'm sure you guys by now have seen the evidence, the wire transfers going to Joe Biden
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from the entity that was CEFC China Energy. You guys, of course, know it. It seems like House
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Republicans are a little late to the game. But I just want to remind you, CEFC China Energy is the
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very same Chinese Communist Party-run conglomerate who I obtained deleted documents from admitting
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that they wanted to wage warfare on the United States and make China the world's leading country.
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And one of the key planks, the key policy platforms as to how they wanted to usher in, dare I say,
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that new world order was through the trend, I'm sure you've heard it before, of de-dollarization.
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And I think the two guests that we just had show you that CEFC China Energy and more broadly,
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the Chinese Communist Party have gotten a pretty high ROI, return on investment,
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for all the money that they gave the Biden family, because they are waging war on America.
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I don't know about you guys, but I have to say I'm getting pretty tired.
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I know the Oversight Committee is doing great work with their investigations,
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but I want some accountability and some action.
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And frankly, I want some impeachments to start.
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We can throw in Mayorkas and Garland just for fun.
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But like I said, we'll get, I think we'll have Mike Davis joining us later in the show.
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We'll get into and unpack some of those wire transfer.
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I think the check, maybe you guys have seen the picture by now.
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And we have EJ and Tony not to discuss money laundering with us.
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That'll be for another segment, another time, because the Biden regime has given us enough
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financial data points and, frankly, alarming trends to analyze probably for four hours a
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But also included, the Fed announced that they were not going to be hiking interest rates
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Before we get into sort of the ramifications of all of this stuff, Lupin, you know, Israel,
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Unfortunately, I think this is really a sign that Powell has given up the fight on inflation.
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He loves to talk about how committed he is to getting us down to 2% and how he clearly
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And inflation expectations are well above the 2% target.
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So clearly, nothing that he's doing matches what he is saying.
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That means that I don't think we get back to 2% inflation, let alone zero, which is where
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But I don't think we're going to see meaningful reductions in inflation below 3% anytime soon,
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especially not when we have a Treasury that seems hell-bent on borrowing us into oblivion.
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And this is going to continue to cause the interest payments on the debt to absolutely explode.
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I think the control room there has a chart that basically shows these things going almost
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parabolic, where in the last several quarters under Joe Biden, the combination of issuing
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trillions of dollars in debt, that's not an exaggeration, along with interest rates going
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through the roof, is causing those interest payments to absolutely skyrocket.
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And they are already consuming more of our GDP, more of our government spending than the entire
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That really puts into context just how out of control this problem is becoming.
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I know you have FOIA'd, I think, or at least reached out to Treasury to get some of these
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metrics, these indicators, the ones that they don't want you to see, which is probably the
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ones that we so desperately need to see they're always good at, and hiding that stuff and redacting
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But I'm just curious, and this might be sort of a naive question, but it doesn't really seem,
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it's sort of like what you said, the Biden regime has just sort of accepted the fate of
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But from the messaging angle, I know that this is more of a politics, you know, comms
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question, but you would think they would be trying to get ahead of this, but you don't
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really ever hear them give actionable steps as to how they're countering this, or at least
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So I'm just curious, is there anything at all that they're doing to try to stop this, or
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really can it only be perceived that the actions that they're taking are just fanning the
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Well, if we go by their actions, Natalie, they are clearly exacerbating the problem, not
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The Treasury continues to spend and borrow trillions of dollars that it doesn't have.
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Looking at various aspects of the Fed's balance sheet and different interest rates in various
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markets, things like the reverse repurchase agreements, we can basically tell that the balance
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sheet is literally trillions of dollars too big.
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And it's going to take a year and a half to two years of the current rate of sales off
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that balance sheet or reductions off that balance sheet in order to get us anywhere near a meaningful
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In other words, both the Fed and the Treasury are either not doing enough or what they are
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doing is completely counterproductive to the inflation fight.
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And I'm sure with what's going on in Ukraine, what's going on in Israel is, as you said, only
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I'm just curious if you could kind of walk us through how you think that is going to impact
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these numbers, but also how it's just a bald-faced lie when Janet Yellen and all these types,
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you know, stand up there and tell us, we have the funds to give the money to Ukraine.
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Well, I think if you do a stock check on our ammunitions pile, they would very humbly beg
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But how do you think these international conflicts are going?
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And even I'd throw in the southern border, how are all of those issues intertwined together
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going to accelerate parabolic and then some exponentially, probably logarithmically on those
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graphs show this chaos is just going to continue for who knows how long?
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Well, Natalie, all of these different things cost money.
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And one of the problems when we get onto the topic of wars is that, you know, I'm trying
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to remember who it was, Natalie, who said that the first casualty of war is the truth.
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Well, I would say the second casualty, and it's a very close second, is the nation's money
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Because as soon as we hear those war drums, what happens?
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We immediately start writing checks that we can't pay for.
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And so the Fed is again going to step in and start the money printers to pay for things
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And it doesn't matter whether that's the war in the Ukraine or whether it's Israel or whether
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it's China moving against Taiwan, whatever the case may be.
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It is mind blowing that Janet Yellen can get up to a microphone and say that we have money
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If you look at the borrowing in the month of October, for example, that just ended, Treasury
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had to borrow over $500 billion in one month, a single month.
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That is much more than we had to borrow in the month of September.
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It's over $100 billion more than we had to borrow from the previous October.
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This idea that we can afford any of these adventures overseas is just absolutely ludicrous.
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As you pointed out with the southern border, we're not even taking care of the problems here
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What business on earth do we possibly have with these different overseas adventures?
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If anything, if we're going to give money to anyone overseas, that better be a loan and
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not a gift because we don't have the money to give.
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We've already seen talk, the murmurs, you know, about how a CR potentially through January might
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You know, I think the way at least the, you know, Representative Matt Gaetz is and some of
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our allies in the House have always looked to single subject spending bills as sort of
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the way out, at least towards restoring some fiscal sanity, although that's still operating
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within the paradigm, right within the environment that is very inflationary and it's not doing
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So I'm just curious before, I'm sure, with the news cycle will be dominated with all this
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CR discussion and debate, what would be your warning here at the onset to lawmakers on Capitol
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Hill, to the newly elected speaker as to why we cannot have a CR?
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I mean, what on earth of any of the information that has come out of the Federal Reserve,
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the Treasury recently, what on earth in that makes you think that we can possibly afford
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any more CRs, that we could possibly afford to continue spending at these absolutely insane
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Again, we had a $1.7 trillion deficit in all of last year.
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We're going to borrow $1.6 trillion just in the next six months.
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We are almost doubling the debt in a single year.
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That is the kind of exponential or logarithmic growth in spending, in deficits, in debt that
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That is unsustainable and it is going to be catastrophic.
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We have to turn this ship around and we have to do it fast.
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I'm glad I remembered something from high school math.
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I'm going to take credit for exponential and logarithmic growth.
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Political science was where I shined, evidently, though my professors would probably beg to
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But EJ Antony, thank you so much for joining us.
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If you want to stay up to date with all of your wonderful analysis, cutting through the
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noise, just giving us the signal, where can they go to do that?
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Best place to find me is going to be on X and the handle is at Real EJ Antony.
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And we got about three minutes before you to jump to break, but I know Mike Davis likes
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If you could give the posse an update, I know you're out in Colorado covering the effort
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to basically make sure that people out there cannot vote for Donald Trump.
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But hey, I thought it was our side that's guilty of election interference.
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So Mike, if you want to take it and I'll hold you through the break, you can pick up where
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So we are in day three of this trial by these Democrat operatives in front of this legally
00:26:16.340
biased Democrat judge in the Denver District Court.
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And the Democrats impeached President Trump twice for nonsense.
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They're trying to bankrupt his family business for the non-fraud of paying back sophisticated
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Wall Street banks in full, on time, as agreed with interest.
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That election interference and lawfare is backfiring.
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President Trump is going to beat President Biden like a drum on November 5th, 2024.
00:26:48.660
So the Democrats are throwing their legal Hail Mary.
00:26:51.540
And this is their first opportunity to get in court in a blue state of Colorado, a Democrat
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hellhole in Denver, where they're trying to say that the 14th Amendment's a post-Civil
00:27:03.040
war provision to boot out of office Confederate insurrectionist who engaged in insurrection
00:27:12.120
or rebellion against the Union during the Civil War.
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These Democrats are dusting off this provision 155 years later, and they're trying to claim
00:27:23.820
And that President Trump is therefore disqualified from the ballots here in Colorado.
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They're going to get a favorable ruling against Trump in Colorado by this biased judge.
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The Colorado Supreme Court is stacked by left-wing activists because we can't win elections
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And so the U.S. Supreme Court is going to have to put on their big boy pants.
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They're going to have to step up and reverse this legal nonsense, this election interface.
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You had great timing there because I was just about to cut you off.
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I have to say, I almost don't recognize you when you're not in front of the Article 3
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I wish we didn't have to keep sending you to different courts across the country because
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that means that the left's lawfare crusade against Donald Trump continues.
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Now, Mike, if you have anything more to say, more inside baseball on what's going on in
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Denver to keep Trump off the ballot, please fill us in.
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But I also would love to get your, you know, let's juxtapose it, right?
00:30:53.660
We have what the left is doing now for the 10th time, their 10th iteration of lawfare against
00:30:59.760
And meanwhile, House Republicans have released their, what is it, you know, 20th memo, 20th
00:31:04.980
picture of a check claiming money laundering with a chart showing all the arrows.
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We don't even seem to be able to actually, it's not even lawfare when we do it because
00:31:15.660
it'd be justified, but it seems like it's very unequal, right?
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The two sides, our ability to really, I think, hold people to account, one justifiably so,
00:31:24.560
the other just sort of because they don't like that Donald Trump wants to take down the
00:31:29.580
So I'm curious your thoughts on the newest revelations out of House oversight today.
00:31:32.880
And like I said, if there's anything more going on there, please fill us in.
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Today, Kash Patel testified, and he testified that President Trump authorized the National
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Mayor Muriel Bowser, along with Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who did not want the National Guard there.
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If you're trying to organize an insurrection like the Democrats pretend, why the hell would
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you send the National Guard to the Capitol to protect the Capitol from the insurrection
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What happened on January 6th was a lawful protest permitted by the National Park Service that
00:32:19.440
And how many people would show up to an insurrection unarmed?
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And why would President Trump send troops to this insurrection?
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The Democrats put on these performance artists, these Capitol police officers who were trying
00:32:34.200
to make a name for themselves during this trial.
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Believe it or not, he got his Ph.D. in sociology in Vegas, of all places.
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And his expert testimony was when President Trump says peaceful, he doesn't mean it.
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When President Trump says fight, he means insurrection.
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And when Democrats say fight, they mean politically fight, not physical violence.
00:33:04.880
Unfortunately, the Colorado Supreme Court is probably going to affirm what this judge does.
00:33:09.800
And like I said, the Supreme Court of the United States is going to have to step up.
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The Democrats fear President Trump so much on November 5th, 2024, that they're doing everything
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they can to stop them, including this legal Hail Mary of dusting off this 14th Amendment provision
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As for the Biden crime family, there's just more evidence of 10% to the big guy.
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You had $400,000 going from the CCP to the Biden family that, you know, every scumbag Biden
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got a piece of it, including Joe Biden, who got his 10%.
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He got his check from his brother, another check that said loan repayment from James Biden
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I just want to know how did Joe Biden have all this money to loan to his scumbag brother,
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And if this isn't smoking gun evidence that the president of the United States is compromised,
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is corrupt and compromised by these foreign bribes by this other corruption from China,
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from Ukraine, every trouble spot around the world, I don't know what evidence Democrats
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And House Republicans under Speaker Mike Johnson just need to start moving forward with impeachment.
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And now I know why Democrats support gun control because they don't want any more of these pieces
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Now, we have Sheila Matthews, who is the founder of Able Child.
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And I have to say, I watched your interview on War Room Battleground with Steve, and it was so interesting.
00:35:22.520
So I was super excited to get the chance to interview you because everything that you do,
00:35:27.860
it really gets to, I think, the heart of the issue.
00:35:30.240
I know mental health is a term that's bandied around a lot oftentimes.
00:35:34.060
They like to make the issue, right, first about gun control, but then the discussions about mental health.
00:35:38.680
They're not really meaningful because they don't get to the heart of the problem.
00:35:42.380
So before we get into all that, if you could walk the audience through, I understand there
00:35:47.260
were some developments with the affidavit, some of the actual material evidence having
00:35:52.420
to do with the shooter in Maine, his psychiatric kind of evaluation, if he was on SSRIs, who his
00:36:00.680
So if you want to walk the audience through all that, then we can get into how the system
00:36:08.220
So nice to meet you, and thank you for having me on.
00:36:12.380
I, this morning, Fox News was reporting that the shooter had stopped taking his medication,
00:36:22.000
and this information was kind of shocking to me because I, you know, I thought that was new information.
00:36:30.700
So I went to the attorney general's website in the state of Maine because they had just released
00:36:39.620
and put up all the documents on the attorney general's website.
00:36:43.240
So when I went to the website, I found that, first of all, the link was not, I couldn't
00:36:51.560
So I wrote to the attorney general's office, and I got a response back from Dana Hayes.
00:36:58.300
She's the special assistant to the attorney general, and she, and I provided that with, to you right
00:37:06.680
there, that the link was down, and so they were trying to fix that.
00:37:13.600
I had a question about the redacted names of the psychiatrist, and she responded back,
00:37:21.920
I don't know what you are referring to about the psychiatrist.
00:37:25.180
It doesn't appear any of the documents we've released reference a psychiatrist.
00:37:31.040
Now, the affidavit is 63, 61 pages long, and so I was starting to rapidly go through this,
00:37:41.540
but when I got her response back, I was like, wow, this is exactly, really proves what I'm
00:37:47.920
saying here, as Able Child is saying, is that the psychiatrist's name and the psychologist's
00:37:54.720
name, now that we've learned there's two treating people in his life, are being withheld.
00:38:00.800
They were not in the affidavit, so I was like, well, I can look through the affidavit for other
00:38:09.160
things that might be of concern for the public, so I pulled up the 61 pages, right on the first page,
00:38:18.500
item number one, they have the date of the shooting wrong.
00:38:33.680
I know that they're under a lot of pressure to get to the judge, but I think that was a critical error,
00:38:41.320
and that should be revised because that's incorrect.
00:38:45.460
And then throughout the rest of the affidavit, they, of course, redacted the psychiatrist and
00:38:54.360
the psychologist, but they, throughout the document, have not blocked out some of the
00:39:04.060
So I'm hoping that they watch the show this evening and maybe can go back through the document
00:39:14.140
I think those are pretty big for a report going before a judge on a mass murder.
00:39:20.300
So then we move over to the arrest doc, I'm sorry, the search warrant.
00:39:28.280
And on page two of nine, you can see, which is a very good thing, that they ask for the medications
00:39:45.100
I'm interested in seeing that, and so should the public be interested in seeing that.
00:39:49.720
However, what's missing is the medical records.
00:39:53.120
They don't ask for any of the mental health records.
00:40:00.500
It's either that they already have all these records and they don't need to get a search
00:40:04.840
warrant for them, or they just don't think that they're important.
00:40:13.340
And then the other two documents I included were the incident reports.
00:40:18.480
I think that these are the two reports that the mainstream media is utilizing to kind of drop
00:40:29.300
But this data point is really good because it is when they come out for the incidents and
00:40:37.300
it's the firsthand of the deputy interviewing people.
00:40:43.180
And the first incident report is a narrative about the ex-wife and the son being extremely
00:40:52.740
And the mainstream media has done a good job explaining that.
00:40:57.720
And you can, it's nothing new here as far as what is reported in the mainstream media on the
00:41:08.500
initial calls regarding the mental health concerns.
00:41:12.320
And, but on the second sheriff deputies incident report on 9-15, you flip to what really concerns
00:41:29.640
me is this is the incident that actually happened at West Point on the army barracks and his psychotic
00:41:45.000
episode in which the other officers, his commanding officer had arrived at the scene and Card had put
00:41:57.020
himself in a room and, um, they were very concerned.
00:42:03.820
And, uh, I found this to be a really, just a very bizarre situation that happened in our military.
00:42:11.500
And basically based on this situation, they decided to commit him.
00:42:19.020
Um, and this is where new information comes in is, well, he went, we know he went to Keller,
00:42:26.160
um, barracks, you know, the hospital, uh, and that we knew of, but the, we did not know a psychologist
00:42:37.260
there determined that he needed further treatment.
00:42:40.360
And that card was taken to four wind psychiatric hospital in Katona, New York for treatment and
00:42:47.980
This is really, really important because treatment in today's world in the psych psychiatry world is
00:42:56.360
treatment is psychiatric drugs and the evaluation.
00:43:04.740
And it says during the four hours I was with Card, he never spoke.
00:43:09.180
He just stared, uh, through me without blinking.
00:43:12.860
He spent 14 days at four winds and then he was released to my knowledge.
00:43:18.620
He has not sought any more, uh, treatment since being released.
00:43:24.880
So this information is, um, new as far as I was concerned, I was having trouble accessing the
00:43:33.760
report as my email from the state of Maine indicates.
00:43:39.040
So it's just pretty bizarre, the incident, uh, that happened and the withholding of the data.
00:43:47.900
So we pretty much know that they already have this information.
00:43:53.060
Um, but we got it, we got a jump to break, but I'll hold you through because as a, as an
00:43:58.700
investigative reporter myself, you always know you've hit the nail on the head.
00:44:02.020
You found the part that they don't want you to find, uh, when they're obscuring the data,
00:44:05.860
when they're redacting it, I've, I've filed my share of foyer requests, but it means you're
00:44:12.980
Hopefully we have time to get into the broader ramifications of the mental health discussion.
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That's about Mike Lindell joining us after the break, but Warren Posse, hang in there.
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Sheila, I got a question for you before I have to let you go, and I'll definitely have you back on,
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because I wish we had more time, but unfortunately, I don't have the authority or pay grade to blow the brakes.
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But, you know, it seems like my takeaway from everything you were going through is that there is sort of this,
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I maybe won't go full out and use the word cover-up,
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but there's an effort to sort of obscure the truth about this individual's status,
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at least with regard to therapeutic treatments, psychologists, access, SSRI usage,
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and it sort of seems like the same tactics that the media uses when it comes to whether it's issues like COVID-19 vaccines
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or prescription drugs, right, there's sort of a conflict of interest there.
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There's some reason that they're not giving us the full truth and nothing but the truth,
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and I know that your organization really hones in on that, right?
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That's kind of your goal, to give parents, specifically young boys, school-aged children,
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really access to true information about the negative side effects of going on, these SSRIs.
00:47:40.980
So I'm just curious, in your opinion, you know, what exactly is going on here?
00:47:48.900
Well, the behavioral health vendor that has the contract is making a lot of money,
00:47:55.180
and I think the important thing here is to get that information.
00:47:59.480
So I think it's a billion-dollar industry, and they evidently are willing to hold other, you know,
00:48:06.880
the gun manufacturers responsible, but they are refused to hold the mental health industry
00:48:13.580
and the vendors that the Army and the schools and everybody else is using.
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The states are in bed with the behavioral health vendors.
00:48:24.120
So they're doing everything they can, not to mention the treating psychiatrists and the psychologists
00:48:34.020
I mean, they could clear all this up right away and just provide us with his treatment records
00:48:53.040
So I think they have to release the records at this point.
00:48:56.440
So that's my call to action is that they need to release it, and they're withholding it.
00:49:01.900
So then we can start solving these mass shooters problems because we can look at the treatment
00:49:08.700
they're receiving and find out if they're getting a cocktail of drugs.
00:49:13.280
So that is, to me, the reason why they're obscuring the treating psychiatrists and the psychologists.
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And now the attorney general, Janet Mills, wants to shut this down.
00:49:50.980
And they're going to use the excuse that it's an ongoing investigation.
00:49:55.360
So they're not going to be providing any more information.
00:49:58.900
So until they release the mental health records, we're really at square one with these mass shootings.
00:50:06.660
We're very lucky to have someone like you who I'm sure is on the front lines of trying to get to the bottom of this.
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So Sheila, if the Warren Posse wants to stay up to date with everything you're working on, of course, find out more about your organization.
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I have some investigative reporters that I would like on this.
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