Episode 3203： MAGA Leading In The Rust Belt
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Summary
Stephen K. Bannon and Richard B. Barris join me in the War Room to discuss the latest polling numbers on the ground in the Rust Belt and how they impact the upcoming mid-term election. We also discuss the impact of the anti-Trump media and establishment media on the mid-terms.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Monday, 27 November, in the year of our Lord, 2023.
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We're going to go, we're going to talk about and go to Israel and talk about international affairs, national security, global affairs,
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tie it directly back to the polling of President Trump.
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Then, because we're about a year out, I specifically reached out over the holiday weekend to folks on the ground in Arizona and Georgia and in Pennsylvania.
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And they're going to come on the show this morning to talk about voter integrity and how we, with all this great polling and all the issue set being directly in President Trump's wheelhouse,
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how do we avoid having a replay of 2020 and having this election stolen?
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And so in Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania, we'll have folks on the ground there to tell us exactly what's going on and some deep, deep concerns that are happening, particularly with the RNC being essentially broke.
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Before I go to Israel, I want to say on the 18th, I think it was the morning of the 18th of September, we passed $33 trillion as the face amount of our national debt, $33 trillion.
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We calculate right now, as we said here this morning, on the 27th of November, we're basically at $33.8 trillion.
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Our calculation, and we're working with E.J. and Tony on this, but we calculate right now by the 28th of December, we will pass $34 trillion.
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We will essentially have added $1 trillion, $1 trillion of debt to the national debt, the face amount of it.
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Every decision we have, as we say going forward, has to have that as Damocles' sword above future generations.
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Let's start in Israel, then we're going to get Richard Barrison here on some numbers.
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We've got Real America's voice, the intrepid Tara Dahl.
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Okay, we're having a little technical problem right there.
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We had her on the – let's go ahead and reboot because we've got live pickup from Israel.
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Let's go ahead and reboot, and let me bring in Richard Barris to keep things moving.
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Richard, today I want to go through – you've gone forward with this Rust Belt polling, and I think you've got four of the states finished.
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There's a couple more states you're out of the field you will be announcing.
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Walk through your findings first off because some of these numbers are blowing me away at the spread.
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There's a huge lesson here also that the establishment Republicans do not listen to the guys like Richard Barris.
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There's a part of the population that's going to come out and vote for Donald J. Trump, and they're just not going to vote.
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These are tough voters to get out, and they come out for Trump.
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I think your theory of age and race is supporting that.
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Yeah, age and race is the real theme throughout the Rust Belt.
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That's what it comes down to, and I know you're going to bring someone on from Israel, and there's some part about foreign affairs that's having an impact here, Steve,
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because it really just plays to the overall theme that we're hearing from people, which is that things were calm abroad when Donald Trump was president,
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So now they have someone to compare Joe Biden to, and it's recent, and it's in their memory.
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So there are people that only come out for Donald Trump, and then there is the voter remorse aspect to this.
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It's in those two demographics that I just keep hammering on, age and race, age and race.
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And I was all over social media when we put out Ohio and showing people on the map who is the Trump or bust voter.
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One I pointed to is Shelby County, rural, 38, never voted before until 2016.
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He makes decent money, 50 to 100K as a single guy in Ohio, but he does not vote for anybody but Donald Trump.
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The vote history is in their demographic profile.
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He voted in 16 for the first time, ignored 18, came out in 20, ignored 22.
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And they don't come out when Trump is not on the ballot.
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And they need to pay attention to this because, you know, thinking long term, Donald Trump's not going to be around forever.
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If we bring this up right now, this is Iowa, which we released.
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Donald Trump ticked up about a point since our last poll in Iowa.
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This is just a caucus, by the way, the Republican caucus.
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He fell a little bit, and I can tell you exactly where that came from.
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The attacks on Nikki Haley from his super PAC, that's what – we heard this incessantly during this poll.
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It was – you know, we're just tired of them turning their fire on everybody that they think is a threat.
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We should take a risk with Ron DeSantis because when we – again, the former president is way ahead.
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But even in the general election, it is – this is not a battleground state.
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I mean Trump won Ohio and Iowa both eight, nine points, two times.
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This time around, it's no different, but DeSantis, it's close.
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I want to make sure – let's go – we're a little bit out of order, but let's go – let's stay with this.
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DeSantis has not – and Karl Rove – and I put it up on Getter, and everybody should be following me on Getter that wants to get a more immersive experience on the show because I'm putting stuff up all the time.
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Karl Rove on the Murdoch News Network, I think it was on Friday, put out a warning, put a shot across DeSantis' belt from old man Murdoch and said,
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you have to win in Iowa or your campaign is over, right?
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And that's essentially telling the donors you're going to have to get back in Nikki Haley for New Hampshire.
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What percentage – tell the audience – what percentage of Iowa caucus goers are immovable from Trump?
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Yeah, and we ask this in the primary states as well.
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But this is what we're calling core candidate support.
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It's not just that Trump has a historically high lead, Steve.
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It's how – it's the percentage of his supporters who say they're immovable.
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So, folks, his core support is just under 40 percent.
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When you ask that of Ron DeSantis, only about 3 in 10, so about 30 percent of his voters say that they're immovable.
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That gives him a core support of about 5 percent.
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So, when you see these polls being released and they're just shuffling the bottom deck, Steve, that's all they're doing.
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Just to give people an idea of how significant that is historically, right about this time, when George W. Bush was leading the Iowa caucuses in 1999, 20 percent of his supporters said they could not be persuaded.
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And he wound up winning the Iowa caucuses with a little bit over 40 percent of the vote.
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So, we're talking about a historically huge lead.
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It's tough for any candidate to put together, even if it was a two-way head-to-head.
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You're saying – are you saying Vander Plaats – here's the thing.
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In days gone by, Vander Plaats endorsing a candidate would take the political news cycle for a week.
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I mean this thing kind of came and went and didn't really have much coverage.
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Did it have any impact on the numbers you're seeing, the Vander Plaats being the head of one of the largest evangelical groups in Iowa?
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Voters know and knew and have known for a while that Kim Reynolds supports Ron DeSantis, that Bob Vander Plaats supports Ron DeSantis, that all these other social media influencers who are apparently a deal in Iowa support Ron DeSantis.
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So it doesn't matter how many new press releases you craft, how many new ads you do.
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Voters are well aware of who is supporting who in this race.
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So it's not going to make this big of a splash like in the past it may have.
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And again, even in 2016, for those who don't know, weren't on the ground and don't remember, even in 2016, there needed to be a little bit of a last-minute dirty trick to get Cruz over that hump.
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You know, when you're talking about organization, how much can endorsements in an organization move the needle?
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He'll move from 16%, 17% to the low 20s, mid-20s even.
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It's time for everybody to come back to planet Earth.
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I mean, this is very difficult for me to listen to every day.
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And now I'll talk later about Nikki Haley because that's all about the donor class coming together to consolidate basically the 15% to 20% of the never-Trump vote.
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I think it's closer to 15%, maybe 10%, but to then force her on the ticket in July.
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Ohio plus 14, Iowa plus 10, Pennsylvania plus 4, Michigan plus 4 or 5.
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Is this – they're comparing the job – it's not theoretical.
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Nikki Haley, what I'm going to do, or Robert F. Kennedy, what I'm going to do.
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People can actually compare and contrast what a guy did versus what the other guy did.
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They weigh and measure it, and this is – is that – is that mantra of peace and prosperity in President Trump's first term, is that what's driving these numbers?
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Again, every demographic has their own niche, but that is the overall theme.
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There's only two regions in the state of Ohio where Joe Biden won.
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Joe Biden is now at 35% approval in the state of Ohio.
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That is a complete and total collapse for any Democratic president.
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No matter how much it shifted to the right in recent years, let's not forget, folks, Obama beat Romney not that long ago in the state of Ohio.
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He beat McCain not that – four years before that.
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This is a very different kind of Ohio because the party is fighting – it's having an identity crisis, and under Donald Trump, it is a much better brand.
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The entire Ohio River Valley, especially in the north that used to be Obama country, Ashtabula, areas like that, counties like that, is now 100% Trump country.
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It doesn't mean it's 100% Republican country because the leads that you see from Trump are different than leads even if another Republican candidate has a couple of points over Biden in that state.
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Trump's coalition – yeah, you should look at this because look at how Trump boxes Biden into Toledo, right?
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So you really have to ask how is that happening even when Summit looks very, very close.
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Another Republican who may have a few-point lead, Steve, and even some of these polls with Nikki Haley doing great, that is – I'm telling you that lead is fake.
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And that's driven by white voter turnout that will never materialize.
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You need a much more diverse coalition if you're going to win the urban and excerpts that we're seeing Trump perform in the way he is.
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So, again, black voter support now in Ohio is mid-teens to touching 20%.
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I think he was at 9% in our final poll in Ohio in 2020.
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White voters are still at 20% margin as they were in 2020.
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The movement is coming from younger voters and non-white voters, most of it.
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We're going to talk about developments there on the ground that we have to understand.
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The age and race, particularly Hispanic men and African-American men, are coming to the Trump cause, the Trump movement.
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Maybe they get back tonight and tomorrow's first day of work.
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Obviously, the 19th of January looms quite large.
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Big article, lead story in the Hill newspaper this morning.
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I've got it up on Getter about how there's going to be this massive fight.
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And I'm telling you right now, they're going to trade off.
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I think, number one, you're going to see tremendous movement in an impeachment effort.
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I also think you're going to see tremendous movement on things regarding January 6th.
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They're not trying to misdirect you, but they will take pressure off Speaker Johnson.
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Remember, we're going to be at $34 trillion, $34 trillion by the end of this year, basically
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around the 28th of December, if my calculations are correct, and they haven't been too shabby
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A hundred days, added another trillion dollars.
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This is why you're having, this is why the Ukraine thing, forget about it.
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This is why even the Israeli support has to come with concomitant cuts somewhere.
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And they're going to try to trade off some policy changes on the border for a Ukrainian
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package and also for not, you know, having $200 billion versus $120 billion.
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We're working on five, but particularly get the third installment about the debt trap.
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And it'll be something that you need to man the ramparts.
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Um, I want to go back to Barris, Barris, uh, these numbers, and I want to make sure the
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audience understands the importance of these numbers, like in Ohio at plus 14 and Iowa plus
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I believe you told us a couple of weeks ago, Florida was plus seven or eight.
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This creates, this is what happened in 16 when we got a little bit of spread in Ohio.
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It allowed us to spend time in Pennsylvania, to spend time in Michigan, to spend time in
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Wisconsin, of course, president Trump, even back in 16 was saying, Steve, I think we can
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I think we lost it by under one, one percentage.
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And we only went there one time because we just couldn't carve out time.
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But it was the ability of Ohio to get a spread that allowed us to do that here.
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Um, is that your theory too, that this will, I mean, Trump's obviously got to go there,
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got to visit, got to have a ground game, all of it, but it'll create opportunities to
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go to Wisconsin, to go to Michigan and even pick up a state, maybe like Minnesota.
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If you, Steve, if you're leading by 12, 14 points in Ohio and, you know, solid leads in
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Iowa and you don't want to turn your back on Pennsylvania and Michigan, those two are
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always just tough, but it allows you to go to Minnesota, which I do think he can win.
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It's the, you know, the one, uh, state that we pulled in the big six where Biden isn't down
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But if you're up this much in Ohio and, and you're up this much in other, these other
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States, you can go to win Noah and win back with Noah County right next door is Olmstead.
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A lot of votes in that area in Southeastern, uh, Minnesota, you can go to Washington and
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Dakota where you were in the mid forties and try to swing a lot of votes in those.
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There are huge numbers of votes just in that area of Minnesota alone.
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And also tells us that if you're doing this well with some of these demographics and I put
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up some of them, uh, before, you know, 70% white working class, if you're doing that well
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with some of these demographics, you're going to be killing it in the iron range.
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And we also did ethnicity, which people haven't seen yet.
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Um, but I mean, ethnicity as a national origin, uh, there was, you know, in 2016, uh, the former
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president did just did a ton better, uh, with, you know, certain groups like Norwegians and
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So we see that now, again, that opportunity is there.
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And yeah, Trump was up by eight points in Florida in our last Florida poll.
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I'm not saying ignore it, but he's going to win Florida in a landslide.
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I'm going to come back around and do some more analytics, but I understand on the top
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of mind of this audience is, Hey Steve, I see the issue set.
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I see global, you know, on the global stage, Trump obviously comes out better as a man
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Uh, I understand Richard Barris and other people we have on here about the polls, but
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We've gone through this exercise before where you got 74 million votes and it was stolen.
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So today I want to start and we're going to do Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.
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And we're going to go back and do this in detail until we make sure that people are comfortable
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Let's talk, start with Seth Kessel, uh, Seth, uh, people are very familiar about your analytics
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about how you've looked at the 2020, uh, steel.
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I've got master Sergeant, um, uh, Donna with you, who I'm going to bring in a second, but
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walk me through what's the situation out in Pinole County.
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There's been a lot of exposure here in the last week and most of the big names in Arizona
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and nationally have put the report out from the think tank Conalrad, which is an association
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Most of them not known to the public who are producing relevant information about the state
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Now, Pinole County last year in the 2022 primaries, there was a significant event that happened,
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which ultimately resulted in the termination of the elections director, David Frisk.
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The first one was the mailing out of 63,000 ballots for the primary, mostly impacting the
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Republican race, which had the wrong municipal races printed on one side of the ballot.
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So you've got statewide races on one side, municipal races on the other.
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Those voters were told to vote the statewide races and that they would get replacement municipal
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ballots, which resulted in a fiasco of more people going to the polls than expected on election
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And they had a shortage of Republican only ballots.
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Now, looking at the turnout numbers, that's a complete fiasco because there were 55,000
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total ballots between both parties certified in 2018 and 77,000 certified in 2022, which,
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of course, you have a expectation of a turnout increase due to the population gain in Pinole
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County, but also because of the contested Republican races with people like Carrie Lake and Abraham
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Hommaday, Mark Fincham at the top of the ticket.
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There was a deep dive investigation at the county level with the Board of Supervisors
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and the county attorney, Kent Volkmer, to figure out why the election, the primary election
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And that produced a very large publicly sourced document, which Master Sergeant Donna is going
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to get into, that showed the inner debates about the county election was nothing short
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of a disaster, too, because they've done everything they can to hide transparency, to keep transparency
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away from the public, especially the growing segment, as we heard Richard talk about, who
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are concerned about the direction of elections in our country.
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I just want people to know throughout the nation, correct me if I'm wrong, Pinole County has
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I mean, this is about, you got Cochise, Mojave, I understand you got some others, but this
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is about as Republican a county as one could hope for in the country, right?
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With demographics, voting patterns, and particularly it's a five-man supervisory board, they're all
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So how could this happen in something that the Republicans control, sir?
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Pima and Maricopa counties, that would be Tucson and Phoenix, generally cast seven out of every
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So Pinal County is a 60-40 type Republican county.
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It is continuing to expand in its Republican registration advantage.
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But in the proceedings at the Board of Supervisors, you have one supervisor, Supervisor
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Surdy, recommending before primary day on August 2nd, they go ahead for the sake of transparency
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and hand count all the ballots to make sure that there's nothing going on with the machines,
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to make sure that there's no issues there with the mail-in voting.
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And of course, you know, signature verification up the road in Maricopa County is a complete
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travesty, as Cary Lake's lawsuits put out on the table for everybody to see.
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One of the more concerning issues in the aftermath of this is that Coppersmith Brockman, a very
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prominent law firm in Arizona, was brought in to analyze the 2022 primary results.
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They also have ties to Katie Hobbs, who had one of their attorneys, minimum, on her transition
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team when she took over as Arizona Secretary of State in 2019.
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So attorney, the attorney of Pinal County, Volkman, has a very serious conflict of interest
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here in bringing in this law firm to conduct the results, which of course showed that there
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was no mischief or wrongdoing or malfeasance in the race, which I think is a little bit
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Because of the conflict of interest with the Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs, in 2019,
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bringing in a law firm that led her transition and also puts attorneys out to Perkins Coy.
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I think that it's a very, especially with what we've seen with the county supervisors,
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concealing transparency, and then to have a report come back to say the election was on
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the up and up and that there was no real issue there, even though transparency was deprived
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from our view, I think is why we would go in that direction.
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But for our, we're going to go to break and hold you guys, we'll bring Master Sergeant
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But for people that are saying, hey, Arizona may be the most important state, you know,
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in 2024, are you convinced, is this fiasco in the primary with the Republican controlled
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Has this been fixed or is this still another fiasco?
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Arizona's a complete fiasco, especially with Maricopa County controlling more than 60% of
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Arizona is ground zero for the election integrity crisis, and it has been since 2018.
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The signature verification process is completely garbage, in Maricopa at least.
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In some ways, there's been so much exposure of what's going on in Arizona, but there's
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And it's not just contained in Maricopa and Pima counties, which is very important as we
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Okay, I want to make sure everybody knows we're going to talk about—
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I don't want to get you too upset, but I want to get you focused.
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They have very smart and very tough and very cunning people on their side.
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I mean, Mark Elias put out the Transition Integrity Project.
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It was Bill McGinley and Raheem Kassam with the war room platform that went out and started going, I think, in July and August when they put the document out to talk about it.
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So don't start—you know, don't melt down right now about Maricopa and Arizona.
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My understanding from sources is that President Trump and the team, Susie Wiles and others, are on top of this.
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Because remember, the RNC is essentially broke.
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The state parties, God bless them, don't have a lot of resources.
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So there are efforts underway to get this thing sorted.
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But I want to highlight today Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania where we're going to get to all that.
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To tie the—because remember, the focus of President Trump's campaign is peace and prosperity.
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You had it for the four years under President Trump.
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You've got nothing but chaos, anarchy, and economic decline under Biden.
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That is what this election is going to come down to.
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It's going to come down to an up-or-down vote on that.
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And that's why you're having many people that have not been to our cause and not been to our movement, particularly people under 30 or 35.
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Particularly in huge, vast numbers, African-American and Hispanic males.
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And it's growing because of the direct actions of Donald J. Trump.
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Now, obviously quite important to this is this war that's going on in the Middle East.
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I think we've got a technical problem worked out.
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Before we go to the colonel, I just want to ask you, there's tremendous pressure here right now, Tara,
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from the Biden regime and from others for Israel to continue on with this hostage swap,
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but particularly to say this is now a ceasefire or a truce and to extend that out there.
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I've been talking to people on the ground and they say that never before in Israel's history has there been such a unity in the goal and the determination to see Hamas completely eliminated.
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They know that they have to eliminate Hamas at this time.
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They cannot agree to the ceasefire, a perpetual ceasefire that Biden is trying to pressure Israel into, Egypt and Qatar.
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They know that the only way that they can live in peace, and Netanyahu said it yesterday when he was in Gaza,
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they will eliminate Hamas, even if the international community is against them.
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You had a color revolution in Israel for months and months and months that led up to this war with the same type of forces arraigned against Netanyahu.
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But you saw a color revolution going on, the same type of forces that were against President Trump.
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Now, this march you had, what, from Gaza to Jerusalem with the parents or the relatives of the hostages,
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plus the media in Israel is about 50-50 the way I look at it, of supporting more hostage negotiations, getting hostages out.
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But after that, they are resolute in eliminating Hamas.
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So they do want to see the hostages released, but they also will not quit until they see Hamas eliminated,
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because they know they cannot be moved back into their homes.
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You have over 200,000 Israelis right now from the south and the north that are evacuated from their homes.
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And they won't move back until that threat is eliminated.
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So, Colonel, let me ask you, how do you restart, if you continue on, and they bleed out a few hostages every few days,
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and you get another four or five days on that, and they bleed out a few more, with the number of hostages,
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and what nobody's talking about is the characters that you guys are turning over back to the Palestinians.
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How do you actually restart the type of intensity of warfare that we had leading up to this?
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On one hand, all Israelis united, and they want to see the hostages back home, because we value lives.
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On the other hand, every day that this pause continues,
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and the idea or the goal that Hamas wants is that this pause will become a ceasefire.
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And this is something that I believe, and I understand that Israel should never accept,
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because it will be more difficult to renew the world again.
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And that's the whole thing here, the tense between life that we want to save,
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And as time goes by, it will be a little bit more difficult to renew it again.
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Colonel, let me ask you, you in Israel and the IDF and Netanyahu are calling it a pause.
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Here, I'm telling you, on CNN, it's a truce, it's now a ceasefire, and Qatar negotiated this.
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The United States, I don't think in Israel, were even actually that involved.
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It was Qatar, which is a nest of vipers that funds the Muslim Brotherhood.
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You know, the guys are living there $10 billion in Hamas,
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and the rest of the Muslim Brotherhood get their financing through there.
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Well, first of all, Steve, you are a little bit polite, too polite.
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Qatar is a country that funds terror directly, first of all.
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And about ceasefires, we are actually in a ceasefire since May 2021, the last or the fourth round of escalation with Hamas.
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When it was ended, we implemented a ceasefire that Hamas evaluated in October 7th, that Saturday.
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The moment we will, I don't know, fly, the IDF of a flight to Egypt, or Egyptians will come here,
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and there will be a delegation, and we will negotiate.
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But as I see it, it's a pause, and it should stay a pause, and not more than that,
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until the IDF completes the mission and eliminates Hamas until the end.
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What he was saying is that they've been basically on a ceasefire since May 2021.
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And look at what Hamas did during that ceasefire.
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It was a two- to three-year plan to plan for October 7th, and that's how they used their ceasefire.
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Let me, but, Colonel, and Tara, either one of you, if there's X amount of hostages left,
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I don't know, is there over 100 still left, if it's 10 or 12 hostages every couple of days,
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they'll drag this thing out for a month or so, and they're rearming and replenishing the entire time,
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I just want to make sure we get the construct so the audience can understand what's happening here.
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I want to be very, very careful, careful with my answer, okay?
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From what we understand, this is why Israel demanded 10 a day.
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Maximum, maximum, if they will release 10 a day, they can reach to 9 to 10 days of a part.
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After that, it will be a different situation, a different reality,
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and I prefer not to talk about it right now and explain the meaning of that.
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But from the understanding of how I read in between the lines and how negotiations work,
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because I've been there, I've been doing that personally in my career,
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it can last till 9 or 10 days, not more than that.
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Colonel, can you tell us, we hear from all the reporting,
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is that the South will actually be a tougher military situation than the North was,
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Can you walk us through, what can we anticipate, if it gets restarted,
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and let's assume it does, how tough is it going to be in the South?
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So I want to explain the difficulties, or the challenges, if I may say so.
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I would not say they are tough, because they ran away like rats from the northern part of Gaza,
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and the IDF conquered the western part of Gaza, the heart of Gaza, the heart of the city,
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and then when the IDF reached to the eastern neighborhoods, Sajia and Zaytun,
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the pause started because of the pressure to release the kidnapped civilians.
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Meanwhile, let's not forget that almost one million people crossed to the South,
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so it would be very challenging to fight with the remains of Hamas,
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and all the ones who fled from Gaza, while they are hiding in civilians, with civilians.
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Not only the original cities like Hanunis and Rafa, but also the ones that are intense.
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So probably the number of casualties will be too high,
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and we will need the IDF, we need to make sure that the next move in the South will be dealt a little bit differently,
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you know, to be more precise, to minimize the number of civilians, or the uninvolved civilians in the war.
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Colonel, is there any momentum at all with Jordan or Egypt to take, at least on a temporary basis,
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the citizens of southern Gaza, particularly the million that came from the north,
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is there any pathway there to get these civilians actually out of Gaza while the military operation goes on?
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Steve, you know, I've been with the Palestinians 27 years out of my career at the IDF,
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and the one thing that I learned, and I saw it, that the Arab world hates the Palestinians.
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And, you know, I would expect the Arab world, you know, the countries that surround us,
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Egypt, Jordan, I don't know, maybe I can't say Lebanon,
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because Lebanon is not a country anymore, and Syria also,
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but at least they, to be there and to help their families, friends, colleagues, brothers, whatever.
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And the first thing that they did, the first thing,
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Egypt closed the border with concrete, Jordan did the same,
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and they threatened Israel, that if Palestinians will cross their lands,
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it will bring the peace agreement between Israel, Jordan, and Egypt to a risk.
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and they understand that it would be best that they would stay in Gaza
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Colonel, is there any way, are you on Twitter or social media?
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You can follow me, just Google me, grishayakumovic.com,
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We want to make sure that we get his website up so everybody can follow it.
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We're going to get some more knowledge from Richard Barris.
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We're going to go back to Arizona with the master sergeant,
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talk about a group that's come together to actually drill down on this.
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Like I said, you're going to hear some things out of Pennsylvania and out of Georgia
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And it's kind of, you know, to make sure that you're on point.
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We understand everybody is very, very, very concerned about a replay of 2020.
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And nobody wants that to happen, and nobody's going to allow that to happen.
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But that's why a year out, we've got to get on top of it and talk about, you know,
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Open social media or turn on the news, and all you see is crime and societal decay.
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You saw the big news out of Silicon Valley with Altman.
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This thing was all about artificial general intelligence and what we call the accelerationist
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Joe Allen will be on this afternoon and tomorrow to go through more of that.
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But one of the important things is this artificial intelligence.
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Now, coupled with artificial intelligence, it's next level.
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Do not let someone get into your title, some cybercriminal.
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Richard Barris, I know you're chomping at the bit.
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We've got Sam Faddis and others in Pennsylvania.
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I've got Joe Hoff in Georgia, others to bring up some unpleasant details of where we stand in this.
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Well, first, when you look at what happened in Northampton in Pennsylvania a couple weeks ago
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for the Supreme Court election, that's something they do have to keep their eyes on
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because even Politico covered that for people who don't know what happened there.
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That system, Steve, has been a problem for a long time.
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And both election experts on the right and left have objected to that.
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And what happened in Northampton is what people have been warning about for a very long time.
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It's not alone, but it's the first time it happened in that county.
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And it is weird because Northampton votes identically almost to Erie County,
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which is all the way out west in the northwestern part of the state.
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But especially for presidential elections, they are identical.
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It's one of only two pivot counties in the entire state.
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And right now in our Pennsylvania poll, Trump was leading there.
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It was actually a matter of whether he would take Lackawanna and Monroe from Joe Biden.
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But Northampton was definitely in the Trump column.
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But I would say this, there are people, every time we release these polls, we hear this from people.
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You know, people, they could just steal the election anyway.
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And I'm talking about people being nefarious and cheating.
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The only question is whether it's widespread enough to overcome or change the outcome.
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The only way, you can't stop it, but you can beat it.
00:47:44.580
And you can beat it through overwhelming participation, along with keeping your eye on stuff like what happened in Northampton.
00:47:50.600
But this is why the Trump or bus voter is so critical.
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If that guy, if that 38-year-old in Shelby County, Ohio, does not vote, maybe somebody will show up on his door and fill in his ballot for him.
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We need the effort of get out the vote to get to the low propensity Trump voters.
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This could give us an overwhelming landslide victory.
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Also, we've got to get realistic that people are discouraged that, you know, where's the action?
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And there'll be more about that in the days and weeks ahead.
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But Mark Elias and these guys are relentless for looking for every edge possible.
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Richard, where do people go to get to all your – because you're putting out – correct me if I'm wrong.
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You've got Minnesota and Wisconsin still to go, the Rust Belt states?
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Can you give a little – show us a little ankle on Minnesota?
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Minnesota – our final poll in 2020 was Biden plus 10.
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If you include all the five candidates – I'll just tell you this.
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If you include all the five candidates, Trump can beat Joe Biden in Minnesota.
00:49:28.940
But again, look, if I'm Joe Biden, I'm leading by a point and change in Minnesota.
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And I'm telling you, some of those counties like Washington, we were bringing up, Olmstead, Winona, they are looking very different to us in the polling than it did in 2020.
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It looked like it was a Biden state and that was it.
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But this time around, I would say – because we did have Minnesota close in 2016.
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Where do they go to get to all your – and look at the cross tabs.
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They can see for themselves how the math plays out.
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They can go to bigdatapoll.com and check it out.
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You'll see everything we've been releasing and doing.
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But the best place, of course, to follow us on Locals, peoplespundit.locals.com.
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That's the central hub for all things Big Data Poll, Peoples Pundit.
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Appreciate you taking an hour out of your time to do this today.
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Eighth decade is when you throw caution to the wind, right?
00:50:47.060
Master Sergeant, you were awarded the Knowlton Award, which is one of the most high prestige for the intelligence service as a senior noncommissioned officer.
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Why are you and a group of your fellow folks involved in thinking through election integrity and to make sure the vote is actually fair and secure for everybody, Democrats, independents, and Republicans?
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Well, first, I'd like to thank you, Mr. Bannon, for having me on.
00:51:17.300
I'd like to say that we're a group of silent centurions that are no longer silent.
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And so we decided about two, two and a half years ago to coalesce together.
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We're a group of intelligence professionals at law enforcement.
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We didn't like what we were seeing going on in Arizona.
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In particular, what happened in Pinal County in 2022, there was, in our opinion, malfeasance and incompetence, possibly criminal activity.
00:51:54.140
One name continues to keep coming up over and over again is the county attorney, Mr. Volkmer.
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And I asked everyone to go to the Arizona Sun-Times.
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The report by Rachel Alexander was thoroughly vetted by it.
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The source document for our analysis is the actual words of Mr. Volkmer and the Board of Supervisors as all this is transpiring.
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So there is definitely something wrong in our election system in the state of Arizona.
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If this is happening in Pinal County, it's likely happening in other counties as well.
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And until the courts, which appear to be in coordination with private law firms, state bar, there's a – appears to be a coordinated effort to stop all means of redress for the citizenry.
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Master Sergeant Jack Donna, part of a group that's looking into this in Arizona.
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