Bannon's War Room - Episode 3225： Standing Up For The American People Before 24; Lies Of J6 Trials

00:00:00.000 This is one of the most outrageous targetings. You have mobilized your division, the most powerful

00:00:06.120 law enforcement division in the world, against traditionalist Catholics, whatever the heck that

00:00:10.460 means, and you're just told us you have not fired a single person. I mean, here, it gets worse.

00:00:17.060 Your Richmond field office, they thought there was nothing wrong with this. The House interviewed

00:00:21.220 the head of the Richmond field office. He testified. It's all here in the public report.

00:00:25.660 I refer you to it, pages 12, 13, 14. He testified he saw no problem with this. He said he thought

00:00:31.640 it was fine. In fact, we have internal memoranda of the members of the field office high-fiving

00:00:37.080 one peer reviewer. Another member of the field office wrote, I think this is a great product.

00:00:41.760 I really enjoyed the read. Do you have a problem with systemic bigotry against Catholics and

00:00:47.560 the FBI? No. What are you going to do about this? Are you going to fire these people or

00:00:53.460 not? Those individuals have all been admonished and it is all going into their, if you would

00:00:58.700 let me finish my answer, it is all going into their annual performance reviews, which has

00:01:03.100 direct impact on their compensation, among other things. Oh, I see. Oh, I see. I see. So

00:01:09.040 the 60 million American Catholics who now learn that your FBI has recommended that priests

00:01:16.880 be recruited as informants. Your FBI has gone to priests, choir directors, but we're to feel

00:01:23.680 better because you've admonished them for their wrongdoing. You again are conflating two different

00:01:28.180 things. Why not? I am taking your testimony where you said you do not. You said categorically,

00:01:33.000 categorically, you said we do not. We do not go to priests and ask them about the parishioners.

00:01:38.960 You said we do not. You didn't say we haven't. You didn't say we won't. You said we don't.

00:01:43.440 It turns out you do. And you kept it from the public. You deliberately misled Congress

00:01:48.780 about it. And the only reason we know about it is because a whistleblower came forward.

00:01:52.280 I just fundamentally disagree with your characterization.

00:01:55.240 There's no characterization. The facts are the facts. And I fundamentally resent the fact

00:01:58.800 that you have violated, if not the spirit, if not the letter, certainly the spirit of the

00:02:03.720 First Amendment.

00:02:05.300 Ms. Stefanik, you're recognized for five minutes.

00:02:07.940 Dr. Gay, a Harvard student calling for the mass murder of African-Americans is not protected

00:02:12.760 free speech at Harvard, correct?

00:02:16.400 Our commitment to free speech.

00:02:17.940 It's a yes or no question. Is that corrected? Is that okay for students to call for the mass

00:02:22.140 murder of African-Americans at Harvard? Is that protected free speech?

00:02:26.500 Our commitment to free speech extends.

00:02:28.160 It's a yes or no question. Let me ask you this. You are president of Harvard, so I assume

00:02:33.680 you're familiar with the term intifada, correct?

00:02:37.340 I've heard that term, yes.

00:02:38.780 And you understand that the use of the term intifada in the context of the Israeli-Arab

00:02:43.740 conflict is indeed a call for violent armed resistance against the state of Israel, including

00:02:49.160 violence against civilians and the genocide of Jews. Are you aware of that?

00:02:54.400 That type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me.

00:02:58.300 And there have been multiple marches at Harvard with students chanting, quote, there is only one

00:03:02.960 solution, intifada revolution, and quote, globalize the intifada. Is that correct?

00:03:08.220 Correct. I've heard that thoughtless, reckless, and hateful language on our campus, yes.

00:03:16.500 So based upon your testimony, you understand that this call for intifada is to commit genocide

00:03:22.580 against the Jewish people in Israel and globally, correct? 0.82

00:03:27.180 I will say again, that type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me.

00:03:33.700 Do you believe that type of hateful speech is contrary to Harvard's code of conduct, or

00:03:39.620 is it allowed at Harvard?

00:03:41.900 It is at odds with the values of Harvard.

00:03:44.980 Can you not say here that it is against the code of conduct at Harvard?

00:03:48.200 We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, offensive,

00:03:59.280 hateful. It's when that speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies against bullying,

00:04:06.720 harassment, and intimidation.

00:04:07.040 Does that speech not cross that barrier? Does that speech not call for the genocide of Jews 1.00

00:04:12.080 and the elimination of Israel?

00:04:14.540 You testify that you understand that is the definition of intifada.

00:04:18.300 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:04:27.660 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:04:32.880 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:04:37.140 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:04:39.060 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:04:40.480 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to

00:04:42.720 stop it. It's going to happen.

00:04:44.220 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:04:47.120 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:04:54.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:04:58.400 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:05:04.800 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:05:10.900 It's Tuesday, 5 December in the year of our Lord, 2023.

00:05:14.420 Welcome to the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.

00:05:19.580 You saw today Catholics and Jews being defended up there by two MAGA stalwarts, Josh Hawley

00:05:25.120 of Missouri, the senator, lighting up Ray.

00:05:27.780 Christopher Ray, I mean, the guy's got to be bounced right away.

00:05:30.120 Just look you right in the eye and lie to you.

00:05:32.400 And of course, the president at Harvard didn't actually, you know, set the world on fire for

00:05:39.060 even basic understanding. It was a very disappointing. Stefanik just ripped into her

00:05:43.640 today. McHenry is going home. So the two lead architects, two of the three graves are still

00:05:52.500 around, but two of the three architects of the worst deal in human history. That would be the

00:05:56.920 debt deal. McCarthy's gone. And I think he'll announce he's leaving here shortly. He's been fired

00:06:01.880 first time ever a speaker, obviously. And McHenry today threw in the towel. He's going to go up to

00:06:06.720 Wall Street, you know, make $10 million a year, you know, with the guys he buddied up to and

00:06:11.720 protected. That would be the Wall Street oligarchs. As I said, Reid Hoffman, I think one of the worst

00:06:16.900 human beings on earth, $250,000 to Nikki Haley on the day they announced that on the day that she's

00:06:23.440 there trying to take your social security money, trying to take that $1,200 check. Charles Koch

00:06:27.440 thinks it's just too much. You're taking too much. So it's, you know, 60 to 80, $100 billion,

00:06:33.140 not good enough for Charles, not good enough for BlackRock, not good enough for Schwartzman,

00:06:37.620 not good enough for all of them. But what is good enough? We have Bob Good from the Commonwealth of

00:06:42.120 Virginia. Congressman, this whole fight, McHenry threw the towel in today, and we had good news.

00:06:47.200 Johnson, Speaker Johnson sent a letter to the White House saying, hey, no Ukraine unless you have

00:06:52.360 transformative policies on the border. Of course, that means no money for Ukraine. The

00:06:57.220 FISA thing got rejected. A lot of activity, where it is you're going to vote on impeachment next

00:07:01.860 week. But people know you as a deficit hawk and somebody trying to get this budget under control.

00:07:07.120 You've been fighting that from day one. What are your thoughts? Where are we right now? Because

00:07:11.240 we're seeing a lot of other activity, but we're not hearing much about that, sir.

00:07:15.380 Well, I am concerned about the lack of emphasis right now, lack of attention right now on our

00:07:20.100 spending bills. We sort of have stalled a little bit here. What we need from the speaker is his

00:07:25.000 top line commitment for total programmatic spending that we're going to cut spending

00:07:29.200 year over year. We're going to do something Congress hasn't done in many years, which is actually to

00:07:34.120 spend less money in this fiscal year than we did the previous fiscal year. It's probably not going

00:07:38.700 to be what you or I would like, but it needs to be some level of spending cut. Steve, the deficit

00:07:43.820 is ballooning so fast now. As you know, we've got a $200 billion monthly deficit. We're on track for

00:07:50.720 about a $2.5 trillion deficit for a 12-month period, highest, frankly, in the history of the

00:07:57.060 country, certainly outside of COVID. And that's happening on our watch as Republicans. My friend

00:08:01.820 Chip Roy did a great job verbalizing that on the House floor a week or two ago. Hey, what are we

00:08:06.340 running on right now? We're running on $36, $37 trillion in debt and an unsecured border. I think

00:08:12.500 you could argue that among the many threats and crises that are existential threats to our country

00:08:17.780 that this administration has created, it's been said by others, but it's true. If he would have

00:08:22.560 just stayed in his basement January 21 and done nothing, the military would be stronger. We'd still

00:08:28.300 be energy independent. Our economy would be better. Our interest rates would be lower. Inflation would

00:08:32.980 be lower. More jobs would be created by the private sector without the heavy hand of regulations and

00:08:39.540 barriers and burdens put on by this administration. But the two greatest threats, I think you could argue,

00:08:46.520 is the snowballing debt and the border invasion, both facilitated intentionally by this president.

00:08:53.680 Never had we had $11 trillion in new spending in the first three years of administration.

00:08:59.320 Never have we had this level of debt to GDP outside of World War II. We have nothing to show for it.

00:09:05.960 The interest on the debt is coming to close to a trillion dollars a year now. It will soon become

00:09:10.760 the biggest part of our budget. The days of spending without consequence are over as we had 40-year high

00:09:16.920 inflation, 20-year high interest rates, credit rating being downgraded. And so my message to my Republican

00:09:23.000 colleagues has been publicly and privately in meetings with the Republican conference just even this past week,

00:09:29.300 if not now, when? If not us, who? When will we cut spending? And frankly, many, Steve, will say, oh, well,

00:09:35.780 you know, it's not the discretionary. It's the mandatory. We've got to do, you know, reform Social

00:09:40.540 Security, Medicare, welfare, Medicaid, and so forth, what we call the mandatory spending,

00:09:44.720 which is just a cop-out because Congress gets to decide what's mandatory and what's not mandatory.

00:09:48.680 But, you know, if you don't have the resolve to cut the discretionary, then where are you going to

00:09:53.600 somehow summon this unforeseen, unbefore demonstrated resolve to deal with mandatory spending and to

00:10:00.560 reform that to preserve and protect Social Security and Medicare for future generations, both of which are

00:10:04.980 going to go bankrupt within the next 10 years, you know, we've got to have the stomach to do what

00:10:09.300 the American people elected us to do. We've passed seven of our 12 spending bills. We need to bring

00:10:14.920 those five additional bills to the floor, cut our spending as we promised to do, as the Speaker promised

00:10:19.620 to do. As you know, we've got the laddered CR with some of them coming due in the, at the end of

00:10:26.140 January and some of them coming due in the early part of February. There's no reason why we can't cut

00:10:30.340 our spending as a Republican majority. You broke some news. I was looking forward to you coming

00:10:36.240 on. It's 2.5 trillion, 2.5 trillion, not two, but 2.5 trillion in the trailing 12 months, which shows

00:10:42.280 you actuality. We're going to, on the 18th of December, I think, pass the 34 trillion. So we,

00:10:47.940 we hit it on 18 September. We'll do it on 18 December. That's 90 days. We added another trillion

00:10:53.160 dollars. You're saying 200 billion a month. If we project that out, that's what every five months,

00:10:58.200 we're going to add another trillion. It's going to go faster because just the compound of interest,

00:11:04.780 as we know, the way that debt works in the negative here, and then the interest rates being higher,

00:11:09.320 complicates it even more. And then as the debt burden grows and the spending and unwillingness

00:11:13.620 to cut it grows, interest rates are going to go even higher. Credit is going to be even further

00:11:17.420 downgraded. It's an existential threat. The American people understand it. They're feeling it. Steve,

00:11:22.580 it's bad policy, as you know, that has caused the inflation, that's caused the grocery prices,

00:11:27.640 where Thanksgiving dinner was about 40 percent higher than it was when this president took

00:11:31.200 office. It's bad policy that's caused the energy prices, utilities and gasoline prices, of course. 0.66

00:11:36.540 It's bad policy that's caused the reaction to the inflation caused by the spending that has raised

00:11:41.480 the interest rates in a futile attempt to combat the inflation, which isn't from a hot economy.

00:11:46.120 It's from the overspending. All of this is crushing the American people. The average rent payment's

00:11:50.860 over $2,000. People can't afford to buy homes. They can't afford to pay their bills. They can't

00:11:55.580 afford to heat their homes. And this president is just piling on. He's doubling down. And the

00:12:01.300 only thing standing between the Biden-Schumer policies that are destroying the country and

00:12:07.040 Pelosi policies that are already in place is the House of Representatives. We've got to show the

00:12:10.660 resolve to secure the border. You know, you could argue, Steve, that we shouldn't fund any more of

00:12:15.780 this government until the border is secure. That we are, you know, since the spending battle,

00:12:19.980 you know, we haven't successfully navigated that. Well, doggone it. Let's navigate the

00:12:23.900 border battle and say, we're not going to fund this government until they secure the border. 0.96

00:12:28.400 I like what Speaker, you said it. Speaker Johnson said with that letter, he said, hey,

00:12:32.060 HR2 is the House position. It would codify into law all the great Trump policies that were working,

00:12:37.200 of course, where we had largely eliminated illegal immigration, the illegal border crossings.

00:12:42.080 But it would codify those policies into law that would strengthen the next president

00:12:45.940 to implement those. And it would make it harder for a future president to change those through

00:12:50.040 executive action. They certainly couldn't take an act of Congress to do it. But that's the House

00:12:53.780 position. We shouldn't fall for some phony Senate version of some semblance of pretend border security,

00:13:00.580 which would frankly, as we both know, would give more money to Mayorkas to bring more illegals in 0.63

00:13:05.040 the country more quickly and more deceptively than they're doing it now.

00:13:10.580 What is then to be done? I mean, just for the sense of urgency, because it looks like you guys are

00:13:15.400 taking the Christmas break. Well, what should this audience do to have your back? The fighters up

00:13:19.660 there that are saying, hey, we got to act. We got to act now. January 19th is going to be here

00:13:23.380 before you know it. What is this audience to do?

00:13:27.900 I don't know anybody that rallies the troops better than you are, but it's your Republican

00:13:30.900 representatives need to hear from you. They expect you to vote for the spending cuts.

00:13:36.160 And frankly, we've had hundreds of amendments this year, hundreds of amendments brought forth

00:13:41.240 primarily by my Freedom Caucus colleagues and I to cut spending. And frankly, about 80% of those

00:13:47.440 have failed. About 80% of those spending cut amendments have failed this year because members

00:13:52.760 aren't showing the resolve to cut spending. But it's hard to track all of that. There's so many

00:13:58.120 votes that we take, and it really takes due diligence to do that. But notice that when you have these

00:14:02.380 amendments to try to improve our spending bills, and we've got these efforts to cut spending for

00:14:06.080 specific departments, specific agencies, even salaries for specific individuals, that they

00:14:11.180 expect their member of Congress to vote for that. They expect a member of Congress to hold the line

00:14:16.240 on Israel funding, on that it's got to be paid for, it's got to be a standalone bill. That they expect

00:14:20.860 them to support FISA reform, that we cannot extend or we cannot reauthorize that without the

00:14:27.340 significant forms, that Andy Biggs kind of leading the way on that. He's the expert on that,

00:14:31.700 along with Jim Jordan on that Judiciary Committee. We've got to protect American citizens,

00:14:35.920 and our constitutional rights first. Don't fall prey to the sales pitch, if you will,

00:14:42.240 of the intelligence community that, hey, we can't let it expire. And no matter what,

00:14:46.180 you can't let it expire. That's why we lose on the spending. If you're afraid of a government

00:14:51.060 shutdown, then you're going to lose on the spending.

00:14:53.800 Can you hang on just for one second? Short break. Congressman Bob Good, Virginia.

00:15:00.020 I know this is hard to believe, but we're up against another government shutdown later this month.

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00:16:27.880 Congressman, I know you got to go, but you know, the audience always loves hearing from you. One thing,

00:16:32.340 I look at the calendar and it looks like you guys may be departing the pattern for the holiday break

00:16:39.060 on the 14th of December. You come back, you're only going to have like a week or so, maybe 10 days

00:16:45.720 until the 19th. Why is there seem to be a lack of urgency? We've had the 7 of 12 pass now since back

00:16:52.400 in, I think, in September. What is it going to take? Look, this audience loves Mike Johnson. He's a

00:16:57.820 good man. He's a solid man. But this is a crisis. It's got to be treated like a crisis. And now you're

00:17:03.060 seeing the numbers explode. As you said, $2.5 trillion deficit in the trailing 12 months.

00:17:08.320 A trillion dollars added between September 18th and December 18th. And it's $200 billion now and

00:17:14.520 probably more every month. So every five months you're going to add a trillion dollars. Why is

00:17:19.920 there seem to be a lack of focus and a lack of urgency? Well, that's the reason why I wasn't in

00:17:25.260 favor of this CR and why I voted against it, because it relieves the pressure. We need the pressure of

00:17:30.100 the calendar to do our job. We've also got, as a Republican conference, and that's something that I'm

00:17:34.900 always beseeching or begging or pleading with my colleagues. We've got to show Speaker Johnson

00:17:38.780 that we will stand with him, that we will have his back, that we are in it for the fight,

00:17:42.620 that we will outlast and stare down the Senate to stare down the Democrats. We're not afraid of a

00:17:47.920 government shutdown in the sense that we're not willing to endure it or to suffer it. If the Dems

00:17:52.420 and the Senate and the White House know we will not bear any moment of a government shutdown,

00:17:56.800 then they just say no and they run out the clock on us. And then if our conference doesn't stand

00:18:00.780 with our Speaker and fight with him, then we're doomed to fail. And so that's what we've got to

00:18:04.860 have that kind of a resolve. I didn't vote for it. I thought it was the wrong move, but we bought

00:18:09.060 some time with this continuing resolution. To your point, it's been about 30 days, I think,

00:18:13.500 since we've passed a spending bill. We haven't brought them to the floor again for a vote in

00:18:17.780 the last few weeks. We should be bringing bills to the floor for votes next week. What we're paid to

00:18:22.840 do by the American people is to vote, to go on record, to vote up or down on the things that are

00:18:27.460 brought to the floor, to show the American people where we stand, to show our constituents where

00:18:31.120 we stand, and to be held accountable to that effect. And that's passing our individual spending

00:18:35.020 bills. Congressman, how do people track you? Because now more than ever, there's a handful

00:18:41.280 of you guys, people got to follow to find out what's really going on in this fight to save the

00:18:45.140 republic. Well, social media is at Rep Bob Good, and then they can support me at BobGoodForCongress.com.

00:18:51.620 I can tell you the swamp is striking back. I'm going to have a well-funded primary opponent that's

00:18:55.500 already been announced, so folks can support me at BobGoodForCongress.com.

00:19:00.620 Well, I think folks realize who was there for the fight, who stood in the breach.

00:19:04.600 So we'll spend more time on that later, but thank you very much for coming on.

00:19:08.500 Thank you, Steve. Great to be with you again. Keep up the fight, my friend.

00:19:12.320 Now, you heard what Congressman Good just said there about the trailing 12 months,

00:19:15.700 two and a half trillion, and the guy's been all over top of these numbers, EJ.

00:19:19.460 For those out there who said, well, Steve, you know, these deficits, how they really impact,

00:19:22.800 it's impacting. It's eating away America, the working class and middle class, like an asset, 1.00

00:19:28.380 like a battery asset that's just in there, eating it away. In the New York Post today,

00:19:33.360 an incredible piece by our own EJ and Tony. EJ, walk us through this because it's so depressing

00:19:39.340 when you read this, what the American people, Dave Bratt teed you up in the morning. Knock it out

00:19:44.400 of the park now, sir. Well, certainly, Steve, thank you so much for having me on this evening.

00:19:49.720 It's really a very, very sad state of affairs. We have had so much government spending that it is

00:19:55.660 completely crowding out the private sector, and it is causing inflation and interest rates to rise.

00:20:02.100 And as a result of that, Americans' retirement savings have been absolutely decimated.

00:20:06.480 But because the cost of living has gone up so much, people are also able to afford less into,

00:20:12.160 to put less into their retirement savings. In other words, I can't afford to put away as much as I could

00:20:18.200 three or four years ago. I'm also having to do more what we call hardship withdrawals

00:20:24.640 from retirement savings. In other words, these are exceptions where I can, if I prove that,

00:20:29.780 let's say I can't afford rent or groceries, groceries, whatever the case may be, I have

00:20:33.680 genuine hardships. The result is that I can make withdrawals from my retirement accounts. But again,

00:20:39.360 you are simply robbing from Peter to pay Paul. You're taking from the future to pay bills today.

00:20:44.700 So once you add up all of the, not just nominal losses, but the inflation adjusted losses in

00:20:51.440 401k accounts, we find that the average 401k in this country has lost about a quarter of its value

00:20:59.580 since Biden became president. To put in perspective just how devastating that is to a lot of Americans,

00:21:06.040 if you are one of the people who were on the cusp of retirement when Biden took office,

00:21:11.000 today you are essentially going to have to work an additional decade in order to recoup all of the

00:21:16.980 lost value from your 401k. And I use that word very purposely value. It's not just simply that the

00:21:23.800 dollars in the accounts have gone down, but what those dollars can buy has gone down dramatically.

00:21:30.520 And so if I, again, want the same standard of living that I was planning on having in my retirement,

00:21:35.220 I now need to work many more years because of the policies of this president, no more retiring

00:21:41.040 at 65. You're looking at 75.

00:21:45.200 This is, it's shocking. I want you, how did you get to the calculation that 25% of the, uh,

00:21:51.360 of the value of the 401ks has been eaten away? Just walk me through the math.

00:21:55.960 Oh, certainly. So what, what you essentially do is, is you look at, uh, the, the figures that we have

00:22:01.460 from a whole host of, of different investment companies that, that essentially advertise what

00:22:07.080 their portfolio allocations look like. And from that, you can get a, uh, astonishingly good sense

00:22:12.500 of what the average 401k has in it in terms of both equities and bonds, but also where those

00:22:20.200 different categories are actually allocated. In other words, what types of bonds, what types of

00:22:24.600 equities. And from there we can see, okay, how did those different asset classifications actually

00:22:29.480 perform over the last two and a half years? And the bond market, although equities haven't been

00:22:34.920 great, the bond market in particular has been decimated. 2022 was the worst year for bond returns

00:22:41.480 on record going all the way back to at least 1928. So you have incredible nominal losses, but then you

00:22:48.940 also have to knock off another 17% on top of that because of inflation. So when you put those two

00:22:55.800 effects together, you get just under 25% in terms of the real loss. And again, that's not just the

00:23:03.440 dollar value, but what those dollars can buy. But it also, the, uh, the fact, the bond market,

00:23:10.660 the collapse of it was because of Biden's massive government spending that, that, that drove up

00:23:17.140 interest rates. Those bonds got crushed. The, the, the par value of the, uh, or the face amount of the

00:23:22.060 bond when you try to trade it is where people lost so much money. Actually, I think technically

00:23:26.320 it's the worst bond market since the civil war. I mean, these are extraordinary. And this is what

00:23:31.840 you're seeing in a 401k. As you take that loss of the 25% of the, of the buying power of the 401k,

00:23:37.800 how did you get to 10? Cause people are sitting there and go, Oh my God, now it's at 25% less.

00:23:42.220 EJ is telling me to make it up. I got to work another decade. And people are not looking forward

00:23:47.200 to working another decade when they're 65 years old. This is a little bit when they think they deserve

00:23:51.860 to lean on the shovel, particularly the fact that Nikki Haley is coming around, trying to take

00:23:55.640 their social, that 1200 bucks to get from social security. Nikki Haley is trying to get her mitts 0.98

00:24:00.040 on for the Cokes. How, um, how did you get to the 10 year? They got to work another 10 years.

00:24:06.800 Well, you know, unfortunately, Steve, if you are like many Americans, the, the typical retiree, 0.62

00:24:12.580 or again, would be retiree, the person who's on the cusp of retiring, you're earning just under

00:24:18.300 $70,000 a year. So we're not talking about someone who's, who's making six figures or is,

00:24:24.240 is a millionaire, whatever the case may be. We're talking about somebody, uh, who again,

00:24:28.640 does not have much higher than the median household income. And as a result of that,

00:24:33.360 you can't expect to put away 50 or $60,000 a year to try to make up for those losses.

00:24:39.880 You are going to be limited just by your income. And again, we're talking pre-tax dollars here.

00:24:45.620 After you take out taxes, uh, take out food, take out rent. I mean, you don't actually have

00:24:51.920 much left today because the cost of living has already exploded. And again, you can expect that

00:24:58.360 cost of living to stay high through your retirement. And so even if you can save a lot of your income,

00:25:04.720 let's say a third, again, this is a lot of your pre-tax income to be able to save. But even if you

00:25:10.280 can do that, and even if you have better than average returns, uh, over the next decade to

00:25:16.140 your retirement account, it's going to take you that long to actually recoup all of the losses

00:25:21.740 because that 25% that you lost in terms of real value, that's not just the loss on one year

00:25:27.600 of savings. That's your entire working career up until today.

00:25:31.840 I know you got to bounce. Good was just on here. The Congressman from the Commonwealth,

00:25:37.240 Virginia trailing 12 months deficits, $2.5 trillion. You and I talked about that before

00:25:42.400 $2.5 trillion. We're going to pass 34 trillion in less than 90 days. And, uh, and now we're

00:25:49.660 calculating, we're losing the deficits, 200 billion a month. Uh, what is your strongest

00:25:54.040 recommendation to the speaker of the house right now about what he needs to focus on?

00:25:57.920 He needs to cut the spending and he needs to do it fast. And I know there's a lot of talk about

00:26:04.720 how we need to cut things like social security and Medicare. Look, the current expenses of those

00:26:09.160 programs, while they are high, they are not what's breaking the back of the budget. It's the

00:26:13.640 discretionary stuff. Do we need to address those programs down the road? Absolutely. We, we need

00:26:18.960 reforms for people like myself who are currently working today and are going to retire in 30, 40,

00:26:24.100 50 years. Those that's when the numbers really get scary. Those programs do not need to be cut

00:26:30.020 today. What needs to be cut today is the discretionary stuff. And again, we need to do it

00:26:34.380 fast. And you need to, the political class needs to earn the respect of the American people to have

00:26:41.680 the conversation about entitlements by cutting the discretionary. Anybody, as soon as I hear these

00:26:46.920 people say, well, it's all the mandatory. That's the problem. That is a lie. They're either too dumb to

00:26:51.620 understand the problem or they're lying to you because they're too gutless to cut the spending.

00:26:55.780 EJ, where do people get to you over at Heritage and on your always spicy Twitter feed?

00:27:02.360 Best place to follow me is going to be on Twitter. And the handle there is at real EJ and Tony.

00:27:09.320 Thank you, brother. Thank you for carving out time to come on. Really appreciate it.

00:27:12.780 EJ has been slammed all days at a conference. Plus that article in the post, everybody's talking about

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00:29:31.360 This is one of the most outrageous targetings. You have mobilized your division, the most powerful

00:29:37.540 law enforcement division in the world, against traditionalist Catholics, whatever the heck that

00:29:41.880 means. And you're just told us you have not fired a single person. I mean, here, it gets worse.

00:29:48.480 Your Richmond field office, they thought there was nothing wrong with this. The House interviewed

00:29:52.640 the head of the Richmond field office. He testified. It's all here in the public report. I refer you to

00:29:57.880 it. Pages 12, 13, 14. He testified. He saw no problem with this. He said he thought it was fine.

00:30:04.180 In fact, we have internal memoranda of the members of the field office high-fiving one peer reviewer.

00:30:10.300 Another member of the field office wrote, I think this is a great product. I really enjoyed the read.

00:30:15.580 Do you have a problem with systemic bigotry against Catholics and the FBI? No.

00:30:20.500 What are you going to do about this? Are you going to fire these people or not?

00:30:25.860 Those individuals have all been admonished, and it is all going into their, if you would let me finish

00:30:30.740 my answer, it is all going into their annual performance reviews, which has direct impact

00:30:35.480 on their compensation, among other things.

00:30:37.980 Oh, I see. Oh, I see. I see. So the 60 million American Catholics who we now, who now learn that

00:30:45.920 your FBI has recommended that priests be recruiters and informants, your FBI has gone to

00:30:51.760 priests, choir directors, but we're to feel better because you've admonished them for their wrongdoing.

00:30:57.720 You again are conflating two different things.

00:30:59.920 Why not? I am taking your testimony where you said you do not. You said categorically,

00:31:04.420 categorically, you said we do not. We do not go to priests and ask them about their parishioners.

00:31:10.380 You said we do not. You didn't say we haven't. You didn't say we won't. You said we don't.

00:31:15.080 As it turns out, you do, and you kept it from the public. You deliberately misled Congress about it,

00:31:20.640 and the only reason we know about it is because a whistleblower came forward.

00:31:23.400 I just fundamentally disagree with your characterization.

00:31:26.680 There's no characterization of the facts of the facts, and I fundamentally resent the fact

00:31:30.220 that you have violated, if not the spirit, if not the letter, certainly the spirit of the First

00:31:35.360 Amendment. The FBI is already required to obtain a court order in some circumstances

00:31:41.100 before accessing the contents of Americans' communications in the context of 702. They're

00:31:47.260 already required for that in some circumstances. Since 2018, how many times has that requirement

00:31:52.720 been triggered, according to government reporting? Do you know?

00:31:57.060 You're talking about the so-called F2?

00:32:00.780 How many times has it been triggered?

00:32:02.480 Yes.

00:32:03.820 I think there have been two instances where I think it's maybe the number.

00:32:08.000 103. 103 times it's been triggered. And out of those 103 identified times,

00:32:12.840 the FBI should have obtained a court order. How many times did the FBI actually obtain one? Do you know?

00:32:18.600 That, I think the answer is none.

00:32:20.000 Zero. So you're telling me that the FBI has completely ignored the limited court order requirement

00:32:25.960 that it's already subjected to. You have the audacity to come here. And you told us that getting,

00:32:31.100 adding a warrant requirement to 702, even for queries involving U.S. persons on U.S. soil,

00:32:38.660 that that would amount to some sort of unilateral disarmament. That, you have a lot of gall, sir.

00:32:44.000 This is disgraceful. The Fourth Amendment requires more than that, and you know it.

00:32:49.960 I know every single time for centuries, even prior to the founding of this country,

00:32:54.900 there were similar protections built into the laws of the United Kingdom before we became a country.

00:33:01.140 Even then, the government was making the same darn argument you're making today,

00:33:04.860 which is, it's too hard. This would make it hard for the government. It's why we have a constitution,

00:33:10.660 sir, and you must comply with it.

00:33:12.640 The FBI is the American Gestapo. Let's just be honest. Ray, dude, your day is coming, bro.

00:33:23.400 It's not going to just be, you know, heated letters and heated exchanges. You're going to be

00:33:28.660 totally investigated and reviewed after Biden, the illegitimate usurper at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

00:33:36.280 is turfed out shortly after, what, 5 November of 2024. And all of you guys, all of your actions. So,

00:33:44.640 hey, save your receipts, save your emails, save all your memos, save it all, save your phones,

00:33:50.900 all of it. Julie Kelly, another disgusting display by the FBI director who just perjures himself, 0.98

00:33:58.180 not even prepared. How many? I think two. No, sir, it's 103. I mean, he's in your face that he's not

00:34:05.660 even going to prep for these hearings. He's just, he's just sitting there casually. Oh yeah, that's

00:34:10.120 right. The lies, misrepresentation, and the perjury of this guy is unbelievable. Please tell me,

00:34:16.180 ma'am, on J6, because people's heads are blown up by the scene in the footage, that the depositions,

00:34:23.840 the interviews, the testimony, all of it recorded, I think from a thousand, you know, witnesses,

00:34:29.740 only a couple of transcripts released. Is that all missing? Has that been, has that evidence been

00:34:35.240 destroyed by Benny Thompson, that group of criminals up there? Apparently, according to

00:34:42.040 Benny Thompson, who was the chairman of this select committee, he notified Representative Barry

00:34:46.860 Loudermilk over the summer in a letter that all of the video recordings of the more than that 1,000

00:34:53.740 depositions taken by the January 6th select committee, a body of Congress, are no longer available.

00:35:00.820 Representative Loudermilk said that they were gone, that they vanished. We're not sure if they

00:35:05.860 have been destroyed. What Benny Thompson said is that they were not preserved. And the reason why

00:35:11.680 he said, astonishingly, is because they had written transcripts of the video depositions.

00:35:18.620 That should be sufficient that they deemed those written transcripts, apparently transcribed by

00:35:25.660 congressional staffers, official court reporters. I don't know who these people were,

00:35:31.700 but the written transcripts were enough of a record to meet the House rules in terms of preserving all

00:35:37.780 evidence collected during a congressional investigation that was then supposed to be

00:35:42.440 turned over to the next Congress. So that would have been Republicans after they took over in January of

00:35:47.860 2023. That is simply not the case. And so where are these tapes? Did they really disappear?

00:35:54.600 Had they been intentionally destroyed? Does Benny Thompson have them in his sock drawer?

00:36:00.720 Where are they? But furthermore, Steve, aside from that, so we have 1,000 plus witnesses,

00:36:07.400 the January 6th select committee assured the public that they were going to release all of the evidence

00:36:12.420 they collected. They did it. Taking aside from the videos, you have hundreds of transcribed

00:36:18.320 interviews that are still missing. If you go to the January 6th select committee website,

00:36:23.260 you will only see about 300 transcribed interviews out of 1,000. And do you know one transcript that's

00:36:31.060 missing? Bobby Engel, the Secret Service agent, the Cassidy Hutchinson said Donald Trump almost

00:36:38.000 strangled to death on January 6th because he wouldn't take him to the Capitol and instead took him to the

00:36:42.700 White House. That transcribed video recording and interview is nowhere to be found.

00:36:49.420 If the videos weren't worth anything, then why don't they just do the transcribed? Why don't

00:36:55.180 they just read those at the hearing? All you saw was the videos. And Loudermack, he's a lovely guy.

00:37:01.540 Don't get me wrong. I'm sure he's doing a great job. But people couldn't pick him out of a police

00:37:04.960 lineup. It's been a year. This is December. They should have done that transition in the first two

00:37:10.160 days. We should have talked about this on January 15th to 23. How could it be December 5th? And now over the

00:37:17.300 last couple of days, this is getting to be a thing. And I don't hear Johnson or Jordan or Comer or

00:37:23.720 anybody talking about this, ma'am. Well, because, Steve, this is what you and I talked about. A

00:37:29.060 really colossal mistake that House Republicans made was not forming their own January 6th select

00:37:35.480 committee. Not only to investigate the committee that we know buried evidence and now it apparently

00:37:42.280 destroyed evidence, they twisted the entire narrative to blame Donald Trump. Even committee

00:37:48.420 investigators, after the report was released in December of 2022, complained to the media that

00:37:55.460 especially Liz Cheney turned the entire exercise into a blame, get Trump operation instead of really 1.00

00:38:02.180 investigating what some people believed were intelligence and law enforcement failures. That's

00:38:07.400 why that section of the report, Steve, is buried in an appendix. It should be the focal point of

00:38:13.300 the report. Instead, Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson and Adam Schiff buried that at the end. And now they

00:38:19.780 have buried evidence that could contradict, of course, the cherry-picked clips that they put on TV

00:38:25.640 that they have played on a nonstop loop. Because then you could look at what maybe the witness said

00:38:33.980 before or after. And in a court of law, of course, this would all be relevant. What's even more

00:38:40.020 outrageous, Steve, is that Special Counsel Jack Smith and Judge Tanya Chutkin called Trump's lawyers

00:38:46.960 attempt to get the videos. They both referred to that as a fishing expedition. In any other situation,

00:38:54.880 the Department of Justice would be demanding an investigation or opening one into obstruction of

00:38:59.640 an official proceeding, their favorite felony, destruction of evidence. I mean, there are

00:39:04.200 numerous felonies that they could be investigating, Benny Thompson and this committee with. But instead,

00:39:09.420 Jack Smith is defending the destruction of these records. Furthermore, Judge Chutkin also agreed that it

00:39:15.980 was a fishing expedition. And get this, she told Donald Trump's lawyers, you shouldn't worry about the

00:39:21.500 videotapes because we have the transcribed interviews. And furthermore, if you're looking for

00:39:26.400 impeachable evidence, which would mean evidence that would discredit a witness that you think their

00:39:32.740 demeanor would tip off in a video interview, you should go back to the transcript, see where they might

00:39:40.000 have looked like they were backpedaling or not telling the truth. And then maybe we can go back to the

00:39:46.200 videos and see if that's relevant. This is a cover-up of them on a massive scale. Not just Benny

00:39:52.140 Thompson, but the DOJ and Judge Chutkin as well, defending the destruction of key evidence in the

00:39:59.700 biggest criminal domestic terror investigation since 9-11.

00:40:05.720 What do you recommend? Before I do that, hang on, because I'm going to keep you through the break.

00:40:11.300 Because you cover this nonstop. You know this better than anybody in this country. And I'm also not a

00:40:16.240 lawyer. What is this thing about Cassie Hutchison? Cassie Hutchison's now changed her testimony. 1.00

00:40:21.040 Or they changed her testimony. She sat up there on national TV for three days. And this is my beef

00:40:28.060 with the committee. It wasn't formed correctly. You didn't have a ranking member and you didn't

00:40:31.980 have a minority counsel. They couldn't get the evidence and they couldn't cross-examine.

00:40:36.100 That's what made Watergate what it was. That's what made Iran-Contra what it was. You have to have 0.58

00:40:41.040 the structure so you actually get the evidence and you can cross-examine. That makes everything,

00:40:45.760 that's the American concept of law. Are you telling me now, Cassie Hutchison, who's been,

00:40:50.200 oh, this is taking Trump down. She's taking Trump down on every TV show, wrote a worthless book. She 1.00

00:40:55.300 went everywhere, got millions of dollars. She's changing her testimony under the cover of night? 1.00

00:41:01.320 Yes, she is. She changed it and was a 15-page called Errata, which I guess corrects her official

00:41:08.440 testimony that she gave. I think she was interviewed three times behind closed doors with the committee.

00:41:14.580 And then, of course, gave her performance, her televised performance. But then afterwards,

00:41:19.580 they are given, apparently, the transcript to read. And her lawyers gave a 15-page correction

00:41:24.940 to her testimony. We have not seen that document either.

00:41:30.680 But aren't those supposed to be like nits, right? Where I said the, maybe Esther said ah.

00:41:37.100 Is this going to be where she's actually changing her testimony? Have you ever heard of a 15-page 0.90

00:41:41.800 errata before? No. And actually, John Solomon from Just the News interviewed, I believe,

00:41:49.700 Alan Dershowitz or some legal reporter who said, who viewed parts of this errata and said,

00:41:55.040 this is not a correction. This is not, you know, we want to underscore that this is what

00:42:00.020 this was meant to be said. It was completely changing her testimony, especially related to

00:42:07.820 that incident that she described in the presidential vehicle on January 6th.

00:42:13.200 Because she perjured herself. It's obvious.

00:42:16.220 She lied.

00:42:16.560 And you said that the Secret Service agent, she lied. She bald-faced lied.

00:42:21.120 You could tell at the time, Trump's not coming across. He's not going to come across there.

00:42:24.480 Trump doesn't do that. This is also your point about the Secret Service, Bobby Engel.

00:42:29.660 His is mysteriously missing. His mysteriously not put forward. Is that correct, Julie Kelly?

00:42:36.480 Yes. So are a lot of Secret Service records, Steve. This is also another underreported angle

00:42:42.120 of January 6th. There are serious and voluminous records from the Secret Service, including text

00:42:48.580 messages that were deleted and still have not been recovered. The Secret Service's role before and on

00:42:55.480 January 6th is still one of the most underreported stories. And this is why, again, we need a special

00:43:02.080 committee of our own.

00:43:04.700 This stinks to high heaven.

00:43:06.820 Sure does.

00:43:07.200 First off, it's not just the cover-up. The crime, normally they say it's a cover-up, not the crime.

00:43:11.620 This is the crime. What exactly happened on January 6th? What was the planning for it? Who was involved

00:43:17.240 in it? All the records, everything. We're going to get to the bottom of this because this is outrageous.

00:43:21.960 Now you've got Cassie Hutchison up there as Joan of Arc, and now she's going to change 1.00

00:43:25.440 her testimony. Short break. Julie Kelly after the break.

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00:46:34.660 Economy. Julie Kelly, heads are blowing up right now, baby. Tell me. You got secret service. This

00:46:41.220 thing stinks to high heaven. You've dedicated three years of your life, and it's paying off. I mean,

00:46:46.360 you're a providential figure because without you, we wouldn't know any of this because it was too

00:46:50.740 complicated, too big, too big a scale. So tell me what's going on. So as I said, this particular

00:46:57.600 secret service transcript is missing, both the written and the video recording as well. There

00:47:03.520 are text messages between more than nearly three dozen secret service officials, including the head of

00:47:11.520 the secret service that were automatically deleted. And this was at the Department of Homeland Security

00:47:17.980 in late January of 2021. They were deleted. All of these texts dating back to December of 2020

00:47:25.080 through the day of January 6, 2021. Then suddenly we were told that there was an automatic. I think

00:47:33.840 we've heard this before. Maybe it was the Mueller investigation said there was this automatic phone

00:47:38.380 update. All of these text messages have disappeared. They have never been recovered either. At first,

00:47:45.160 House Democrats, including the committee, were interested to see what happened to those texts.

00:47:49.220 That story, that scandal has completely disappeared. The role of the secret service, what they did

00:47:56.380 and what they didn't do before and on January 6th still is a huge mystery that a select committee of

00:48:02.720 our own would uncover or try to. I'm telling you, um, when I cover these January 6th trials,

00:48:09.500 where the secret service took Mike Pence, where specifically they took him, that has been under

00:48:16.740 protective order. You cannot cross-examine a secret service agent to say exactly what happened with the

00:48:23.160 transport of Mike Pence. Now we're told that he remained on Capitol grounds. And that's important

00:48:28.840 because it's a linchpin to hundreds of criminal charges against January 6th defendants. But we

00:48:35.260 still do not have documented proof that that is the case. Furthermore, here's something I want to say

00:48:41.600 that I, go ahead. Yeah. No, go ahead, ma'am. It's your, your role. Something else that I want to cover.

00:48:47.620 Something else that's important. The Biden White House has four transcripts. We don't know who they

00:48:53.460 belong to. They were given to the White House, uh, general counsel from the January 6th select

00:49:00.380 committee, the Democrats. Those four transcripts have been at the White House for security review

00:49:05.980 for nearly a year. And the White House lawyer told Barry Loudermilk in August in a letter,

00:49:13.020 we are still conducting that security, uh, review. Once we do with more, um, protections to the

00:49:21.200 transcript, we will give those four transcripts to NABRA, the archivist, and then we will send you a

00:49:27.540 copy. What's the holdup? What possibly could they be doing for a year to four transcripts? Who are the

00:49:35.020 individuals? And when will we finally see those transcribed interviews? Even if the names and

00:49:40.380 identities are. Okay. You got, you got to, you got to help me out here. I know we got to bounce

00:49:44.660 the second hour, but when we took over the house, Pelosi runs this thing with an iron fist. Why are

00:49:52.780 you and I sitting here having this very interesting conversation with our audience? My audience's head

00:49:57.520 blowing up across the nation with this outrage and who's in charge. And I love Loudermilk, but you got

00:50:04.460 to get some, I mean, where is, where's Jordan? Where's Comer? Where's Speaker Johnson? Where are these

00:50:10.280 people? What should be done here? We need to form our own committee and they need to staff it as heavily

00:50:16.980 as the Democrats did with their committee. We need to do two things. Tell the truth about January 6th

00:50:22.720 leading up to that day and on that day and expose the coverup, the lies and the deceit. Let's emphasize

00:50:29.640 the deceit of the January 6th select committee, the fraud that they perpetrated on the American people

00:50:35.700 that now many Americans are waking up to, that what they were told, what house Democrats once again,

00:50:42.600 lied to the American people about is not the true account of that day. And certainly what happened

00:50:48.800 beforehand and afterwards. Julie Kelly, before I let you, do you believe there's been a crimes

00:50:54.860 committed by the J6 committee in perpetrating these lies, ma'am? Well, look, if you can charge Donald

00:51:01.600 Trump with conspiracy to defraud the United States, one of four accounts in Jack Smith's indictment,

00:51:06.780 you can certainly safely argue with far more evidence that House Democrats from Nancy Pelosi to

00:51:13.080 Benny Thompson to once again, Adam Schiff, Jamie Raskin, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger did the exact

00:51:19.400 same thing. We know they have witnesses who lied under oath. Cassidy Hutchinson, Harry Dunn, Michael

00:51:24.940 Fanon, the celebrity cops, Eccolina Ganell. They all lied under oath. They lied directly to the American

00:51:30.580 people. This was a fraud of massive proportions. So yes, if we can bring that charge against Donald

00:51:37.040 Trump for allegedly being responsible or trying to investigate election fraud, there's certainly a lot

00:51:43.760 more evidence to bring that charge and many more against the people who once again deceive this

00:51:49.200 country and are trying to throw it up for grabs and destroy it. Unbelievable, ma'am. Julie, how did it

00:51:56.620 get to all your contact points? People got to follow you now more than ever. Declassified with Julie

00:52:01.880 Kelly on Substack and Twitter X Julie underscore Kelly to where I post a lot of breaking news, motions,

00:52:08.280 et cetera, like I did today. Unbelievable, ma'am. Thank you so much. Love having you on here. I know

00:52:15.440 the audience does. We're going to make sure there's some action taking on this. We're going to use our

00:52:18.920 human agency to move it here. Thank you so much. Next hour, your head's going to blow up also. So

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Bannon's War Room - December 06, 2023

Episode 3225： Standing Up For The American People Before 24; Lies Of J6 Trials

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