Episode 3225： Standing Up For The American People Before 24; Lies Of J6 Trials
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Learn English with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is the former head of the Federal Bureau of Investigations and served as Attorney General between 2001 and 2006. He is now serving as the President of Harvard University, where he is also the Director of the Office of Public Diplomacy.
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This is one of the most outrageous targetings. You have mobilized your division, the most powerful
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law enforcement division in the world, against traditionalist Catholics, whatever the heck that
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means, and you're just told us you have not fired a single person. I mean, here, it gets worse.
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Your Richmond field office, they thought there was nothing wrong with this. The House interviewed
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the head of the Richmond field office. He testified. It's all here in the public report.
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I refer you to it, pages 12, 13, 14. He testified he saw no problem with this. He said he thought
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it was fine. In fact, we have internal memoranda of the members of the field office high-fiving
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one peer reviewer. Another member of the field office wrote, I think this is a great product.
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I really enjoyed the read. Do you have a problem with systemic bigotry against Catholics and
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the FBI? No. What are you going to do about this? Are you going to fire these people or
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not? Those individuals have all been admonished and it is all going into their, if you would
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let me finish my answer, it is all going into their annual performance reviews, which has
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direct impact on their compensation, among other things. Oh, I see. Oh, I see. I see. So
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the 60 million American Catholics who now learn that your FBI has recommended that priests
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be recruited as informants. Your FBI has gone to priests, choir directors, but we're to feel
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better because you've admonished them for their wrongdoing. You again are conflating two different
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things. Why not? I am taking your testimony where you said you do not. You said categorically,
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categorically, you said we do not. We do not go to priests and ask them about the parishioners.
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You said we do not. You didn't say we haven't. You didn't say we won't. You said we don't.
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It turns out you do. And you kept it from the public. You deliberately misled Congress
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about it. And the only reason we know about it is because a whistleblower came forward.
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I just fundamentally disagree with your characterization.
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There's no characterization. The facts are the facts. And I fundamentally resent the fact
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that you have violated, if not the spirit, if not the letter, certainly the spirit of the
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Ms. Stefanik, you're recognized for five minutes.
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Dr. Gay, a Harvard student calling for the mass murder of African-Americans is not protected
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It's a yes or no question. Is that corrected? Is that okay for students to call for the mass
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murder of African-Americans at Harvard? Is that protected free speech?
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It's a yes or no question. Let me ask you this. You are president of Harvard, so I assume
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you're familiar with the term intifada, correct?
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And you understand that the use of the term intifada in the context of the Israeli-Arab
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conflict is indeed a call for violent armed resistance against the state of Israel, including
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violence against civilians and the genocide of Jews. Are you aware of that?
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That type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me.
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And there have been multiple marches at Harvard with students chanting, quote, there is only one
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solution, intifada revolution, and quote, globalize the intifada. Is that correct?
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Correct. I've heard that thoughtless, reckless, and hateful language on our campus, yes.
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So based upon your testimony, you understand that this call for intifada is to commit genocide
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against the Jewish people in Israel and globally, correct?
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I will say again, that type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me.
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Do you believe that type of hateful speech is contrary to Harvard's code of conduct, or
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Can you not say here that it is against the code of conduct at Harvard?
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We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, offensive,
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hateful. It's when that speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies against bullying,
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Does that speech not cross that barrier? Does that speech not call for the genocide of Jews
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You testify that you understand that is the definition of intifada.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Tuesday, 5 December in the year of our Lord, 2023.
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Welcome to the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.
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You saw today Catholics and Jews being defended up there by two MAGA stalwarts, Josh Hawley
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Christopher Ray, I mean, the guy's got to be bounced right away.
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And of course, the president at Harvard didn't actually, you know, set the world on fire for
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even basic understanding. It was a very disappointing. Stefanik just ripped into her
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today. McHenry is going home. So the two lead architects, two of the three graves are still
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around, but two of the three architects of the worst deal in human history. That would be the
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debt deal. McCarthy's gone. And I think he'll announce he's leaving here shortly. He's been fired
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first time ever a speaker, obviously. And McHenry today threw in the towel. He's going to go up to
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Wall Street, you know, make $10 million a year, you know, with the guys he buddied up to and
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protected. That would be the Wall Street oligarchs. As I said, Reid Hoffman, I think one of the worst
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human beings on earth, $250,000 to Nikki Haley on the day they announced that on the day that she's
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there trying to take your social security money, trying to take that $1,200 check. Charles Koch
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thinks it's just too much. You're taking too much. So it's, you know, 60 to 80, $100 billion,
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not good enough for Charles, not good enough for BlackRock, not good enough for Schwartzman,
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not good enough for all of them. But what is good enough? We have Bob Good from the Commonwealth of
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Virginia. Congressman, this whole fight, McHenry threw the towel in today, and we had good news.
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Johnson, Speaker Johnson sent a letter to the White House saying, hey, no Ukraine unless you have
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transformative policies on the border. Of course, that means no money for Ukraine. The
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FISA thing got rejected. A lot of activity, where it is you're going to vote on impeachment next
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week. But people know you as a deficit hawk and somebody trying to get this budget under control.
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You've been fighting that from day one. What are your thoughts? Where are we right now? Because
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we're seeing a lot of other activity, but we're not hearing much about that, sir.
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Well, I am concerned about the lack of emphasis right now, lack of attention right now on our
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spending bills. We sort of have stalled a little bit here. What we need from the speaker is his
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top line commitment for total programmatic spending that we're going to cut spending
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year over year. We're going to do something Congress hasn't done in many years, which is actually to
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spend less money in this fiscal year than we did the previous fiscal year. It's probably not going
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to be what you or I would like, but it needs to be some level of spending cut. Steve, the deficit
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is ballooning so fast now. As you know, we've got a $200 billion monthly deficit. We're on track for
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about a $2.5 trillion deficit for a 12-month period, highest, frankly, in the history of the
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country, certainly outside of COVID. And that's happening on our watch as Republicans. My friend
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Chip Roy did a great job verbalizing that on the House floor a week or two ago. Hey, what are we
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running on right now? We're running on $36, $37 trillion in debt and an unsecured border. I think
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you could argue that among the many threats and crises that are existential threats to our country
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that this administration has created, it's been said by others, but it's true. If he would have
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just stayed in his basement January 21 and done nothing, the military would be stronger. We'd still
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be energy independent. Our economy would be better. Our interest rates would be lower. Inflation would
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be lower. More jobs would be created by the private sector without the heavy hand of regulations and
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barriers and burdens put on by this administration. But the two greatest threats, I think you could argue,
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is the snowballing debt and the border invasion, both facilitated intentionally by this president.
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Never had we had $11 trillion in new spending in the first three years of administration.
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Never have we had this level of debt to GDP outside of World War II. We have nothing to show for it.
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The interest on the debt is coming to close to a trillion dollars a year now. It will soon become
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the biggest part of our budget. The days of spending without consequence are over as we had 40-year high
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inflation, 20-year high interest rates, credit rating being downgraded. And so my message to my Republican
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colleagues has been publicly and privately in meetings with the Republican conference just even this past week,
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if not now, when? If not us, who? When will we cut spending? And frankly, many, Steve, will say, oh, well,
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you know, it's not the discretionary. It's the mandatory. We've got to do, you know, reform Social
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Security, Medicare, welfare, Medicaid, and so forth, what we call the mandatory spending,
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which is just a cop-out because Congress gets to decide what's mandatory and what's not mandatory.
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But, you know, if you don't have the resolve to cut the discretionary, then where are you going to
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somehow summon this unforeseen, unbefore demonstrated resolve to deal with mandatory spending and to
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reform that to preserve and protect Social Security and Medicare for future generations, both of which are
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going to go bankrupt within the next 10 years, you know, we've got to have the stomach to do what
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the American people elected us to do. We've passed seven of our 12 spending bills. We need to bring
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those five additional bills to the floor, cut our spending as we promised to do, as the Speaker promised
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to do. As you know, we've got the laddered CR with some of them coming due in the, at the end of
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January and some of them coming due in the early part of February. There's no reason why we can't cut
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our spending as a Republican majority. You broke some news. I was looking forward to you coming
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on. It's 2.5 trillion, 2.5 trillion, not two, but 2.5 trillion in the trailing 12 months, which shows
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you actuality. We're going to, on the 18th of December, I think, pass the 34 trillion. So we,
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we hit it on 18 September. We'll do it on 18 December. That's 90 days. We added another trillion
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dollars. You're saying 200 billion a month. If we project that out, that's what every five months,
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we're going to add another trillion. It's going to go faster because just the compound of interest,
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as we know, the way that debt works in the negative here, and then the interest rates being higher,
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complicates it even more. And then as the debt burden grows and the spending and unwillingness
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to cut it grows, interest rates are going to go even higher. Credit is going to be even further
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downgraded. It's an existential threat. The American people understand it. They're feeling it. Steve,
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it's bad policy, as you know, that has caused the inflation, that's caused the grocery prices,
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where Thanksgiving dinner was about 40 percent higher than it was when this president took
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office. It's bad policy that's caused the energy prices, utilities and gasoline prices, of course.
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It's bad policy that's caused the reaction to the inflation caused by the spending that has raised
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the interest rates in a futile attempt to combat the inflation, which isn't from a hot economy.
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It's from the overspending. All of this is crushing the American people. The average rent payment's
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over $2,000. People can't afford to buy homes. They can't afford to pay their bills. They can't
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afford to heat their homes. And this president is just piling on. He's doubling down. And the
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only thing standing between the Biden-Schumer policies that are destroying the country and
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Pelosi policies that are already in place is the House of Representatives. We've got to show the
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resolve to secure the border. You know, you could argue, Steve, that we shouldn't fund any more of
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this government until the border is secure. That we are, you know, since the spending battle,
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you know, we haven't successfully navigated that. Well, doggone it. Let's navigate the
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border battle and say, we're not going to fund this government until they secure the border.
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I like what Speaker, you said it. Speaker Johnson said with that letter, he said, hey,
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HR2 is the House position. It would codify into law all the great Trump policies that were working,
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of course, where we had largely eliminated illegal immigration, the illegal border crossings.
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But it would codify those policies into law that would strengthen the next president
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to implement those. And it would make it harder for a future president to change those through
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executive action. They certainly couldn't take an act of Congress to do it. But that's the House
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position. We shouldn't fall for some phony Senate version of some semblance of pretend border security,
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which would frankly, as we both know, would give more money to Mayorkas to bring more illegals in
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the country more quickly and more deceptively than they're doing it now.
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What is then to be done? I mean, just for the sense of urgency, because it looks like you guys are
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taking the Christmas break. Well, what should this audience do to have your back? The fighters up
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there that are saying, hey, we got to act. We got to act now. January 19th is going to be here
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before you know it. What is this audience to do?
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I don't know anybody that rallies the troops better than you are, but it's your Republican
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representatives need to hear from you. They expect you to vote for the spending cuts.
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And frankly, we've had hundreds of amendments this year, hundreds of amendments brought forth
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primarily by my Freedom Caucus colleagues and I to cut spending. And frankly, about 80% of those
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have failed. About 80% of those spending cut amendments have failed this year because members
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aren't showing the resolve to cut spending. But it's hard to track all of that. There's so many
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votes that we take, and it really takes due diligence to do that. But notice that when you have these
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amendments to try to improve our spending bills, and we've got these efforts to cut spending for
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specific departments, specific agencies, even salaries for specific individuals, that they
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expect their member of Congress to vote for that. They expect a member of Congress to hold the line
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on Israel funding, on that it's got to be paid for, it's got to be a standalone bill. That they expect
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them to support FISA reform, that we cannot extend or we cannot reauthorize that without the
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significant forms, that Andy Biggs kind of leading the way on that. He's the expert on that,
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along with Jim Jordan on that Judiciary Committee. We've got to protect American citizens,
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and our constitutional rights first. Don't fall prey to the sales pitch, if you will,
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of the intelligence community that, hey, we can't let it expire. And no matter what,
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you can't let it expire. That's why we lose on the spending. If you're afraid of a government
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shutdown, then you're going to lose on the spending.
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Can you hang on just for one second? Short break. Congressman Bob Good, Virginia.
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Congressman, I know you got to go, but you know, the audience always loves hearing from you. One thing,
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I look at the calendar and it looks like you guys may be departing the pattern for the holiday break
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on the 14th of December. You come back, you're only going to have like a week or so, maybe 10 days
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until the 19th. Why is there seem to be a lack of urgency? We've had the 7 of 12 pass now since back
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in, I think, in September. What is it going to take? Look, this audience loves Mike Johnson. He's a
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good man. He's a solid man. But this is a crisis. It's got to be treated like a crisis. And now you're
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seeing the numbers explode. As you said, $2.5 trillion deficit in the trailing 12 months.
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A trillion dollars added between September 18th and December 18th. And it's $200 billion now and
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probably more every month. So every five months you're going to add a trillion dollars. Why is
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there seem to be a lack of focus and a lack of urgency? Well, that's the reason why I wasn't in
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favor of this CR and why I voted against it, because it relieves the pressure. We need the pressure of
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the calendar to do our job. We've also got, as a Republican conference, and that's something that I'm
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always beseeching or begging or pleading with my colleagues. We've got to show Speaker Johnson
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that we will stand with him, that we will have his back, that we are in it for the fight,
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that we will outlast and stare down the Senate to stare down the Democrats. We're not afraid of a
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government shutdown in the sense that we're not willing to endure it or to suffer it. If the Dems
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and the Senate and the White House know we will not bear any moment of a government shutdown,
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then they just say no and they run out the clock on us. And then if our conference doesn't stand
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with our Speaker and fight with him, then we're doomed to fail. And so that's what we've got to
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have that kind of a resolve. I didn't vote for it. I thought it was the wrong move, but we bought
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some time with this continuing resolution. To your point, it's been about 30 days, I think,
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since we've passed a spending bill. We haven't brought them to the floor again for a vote in
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the last few weeks. We should be bringing bills to the floor for votes next week. What we're paid to
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do by the American people is to vote, to go on record, to vote up or down on the things that are
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brought to the floor, to show the American people where we stand, to show our constituents where
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we stand, and to be held accountable to that effect. And that's passing our individual spending
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bills. Congressman, how do people track you? Because now more than ever, there's a handful
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of you guys, people got to follow to find out what's really going on in this fight to save the
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republic. Well, social media is at Rep Bob Good, and then they can support me at BobGoodForCongress.com.
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I can tell you the swamp is striking back. I'm going to have a well-funded primary opponent that's
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Well, I think folks realize who was there for the fight, who stood in the breach.
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So we'll spend more time on that later, but thank you very much for coming on.
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Thank you, Steve. Great to be with you again. Keep up the fight, my friend.
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Now, you heard what Congressman Good just said there about the trailing 12 months,
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two and a half trillion, and the guy's been all over top of these numbers, EJ.
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For those out there who said, well, Steve, you know, these deficits, how they really impact,
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it's impacting. It's eating away America, the working class and middle class, like an asset,
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like a battery asset that's just in there, eating it away. In the New York Post today,
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an incredible piece by our own EJ and Tony. EJ, walk us through this because it's so depressing
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when you read this, what the American people, Dave Bratt teed you up in the morning. Knock it out
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of the park now, sir. Well, certainly, Steve, thank you so much for having me on this evening.
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It's really a very, very sad state of affairs. We have had so much government spending that it is
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completely crowding out the private sector, and it is causing inflation and interest rates to rise.
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And as a result of that, Americans' retirement savings have been absolutely decimated.
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But because the cost of living has gone up so much, people are also able to afford less into,
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to put less into their retirement savings. In other words, I can't afford to put away as much as I could
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three or four years ago. I'm also having to do more what we call hardship withdrawals
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from retirement savings. In other words, these are exceptions where I can, if I prove that,
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let's say I can't afford rent or groceries, groceries, whatever the case may be, I have
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genuine hardships. The result is that I can make withdrawals from my retirement accounts. But again,
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you are simply robbing from Peter to pay Paul. You're taking from the future to pay bills today.
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So once you add up all of the, not just nominal losses, but the inflation adjusted losses in
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401k accounts, we find that the average 401k in this country has lost about a quarter of its value
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since Biden became president. To put in perspective just how devastating that is to a lot of Americans,
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if you are one of the people who were on the cusp of retirement when Biden took office,
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today you are essentially going to have to work an additional decade in order to recoup all of the
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lost value from your 401k. And I use that word very purposely value. It's not just simply that the
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dollars in the accounts have gone down, but what those dollars can buy has gone down dramatically.
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And so if I, again, want the same standard of living that I was planning on having in my retirement,
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I now need to work many more years because of the policies of this president, no more retiring
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This is, it's shocking. I want you, how did you get to the calculation that 25% of the, uh,
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of the value of the 401ks has been eaten away? Just walk me through the math.
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Oh, certainly. So what, what you essentially do is, is you look at, uh, the, the figures that we have
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from a whole host of, of different investment companies that, that essentially advertise what
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their portfolio allocations look like. And from that, you can get a, uh, astonishingly good sense
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of what the average 401k has in it in terms of both equities and bonds, but also where those
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different categories are actually allocated. In other words, what types of bonds, what types of
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equities. And from there we can see, okay, how did those different asset classifications actually
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perform over the last two and a half years? And the bond market, although equities haven't been
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great, the bond market in particular has been decimated. 2022 was the worst year for bond returns
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on record going all the way back to at least 1928. So you have incredible nominal losses, but then you
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also have to knock off another 17% on top of that because of inflation. So when you put those two
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effects together, you get just under 25% in terms of the real loss. And again, that's not just the
00:23:03.440
dollar value, but what those dollars can buy. But it also, the, uh, the fact, the bond market,
00:23:10.660
the collapse of it was because of Biden's massive government spending that, that, that drove up
00:23:17.140
interest rates. Those bonds got crushed. The, the, the par value of the, uh, or the face amount of the
00:23:22.060
bond when you try to trade it is where people lost so much money. Actually, I think technically
00:23:26.320
it's the worst bond market since the civil war. I mean, these are extraordinary. And this is what
00:23:31.840
you're seeing in a 401k. As you take that loss of the 25% of the, of the buying power of the 401k,
00:23:37.800
how did you get to 10? Cause people are sitting there and go, Oh my God, now it's at 25% less.
00:23:42.220
EJ is telling me to make it up. I got to work another decade. And people are not looking forward
00:23:47.200
to working another decade when they're 65 years old. This is a little bit when they think they deserve
00:23:51.860
to lean on the shovel, particularly the fact that Nikki Haley is coming around, trying to take
00:23:55.640
their social, that 1200 bucks to get from social security. Nikki Haley is trying to get her mitts
00:24:00.040
on for the Cokes. How, um, how did you get to the 10 year? They got to work another 10 years.
00:24:06.800
Well, you know, unfortunately, Steve, if you are like many Americans, the, the typical retiree,
00:24:12.580
or again, would be retiree, the person who's on the cusp of retiring, you're earning just under
00:24:18.300
$70,000 a year. So we're not talking about someone who's, who's making six figures or is,
00:24:24.240
is a millionaire, whatever the case may be. We're talking about somebody, uh, who again,
00:24:28.640
does not have much higher than the median household income. And as a result of that,
00:24:33.360
you can't expect to put away 50 or $60,000 a year to try to make up for those losses.
00:24:39.880
You are going to be limited just by your income. And again, we're talking pre-tax dollars here.
00:24:45.620
After you take out taxes, uh, take out food, take out rent. I mean, you don't actually have
00:24:51.920
much left today because the cost of living has already exploded. And again, you can expect that
00:24:58.360
cost of living to stay high through your retirement. And so even if you can save a lot of your income,
00:25:04.720
let's say a third, again, this is a lot of your pre-tax income to be able to save. But even if you
00:25:10.280
can do that, and even if you have better than average returns, uh, over the next decade to
00:25:16.140
your retirement account, it's going to take you that long to actually recoup all of the losses
00:25:21.740
because that 25% that you lost in terms of real value, that's not just the loss on one year
00:25:27.600
of savings. That's your entire working career up until today.
00:25:31.840
I know you got to bounce. Good was just on here. The Congressman from the Commonwealth,
00:25:37.240
Virginia trailing 12 months deficits, $2.5 trillion. You and I talked about that before
00:25:42.400
$2.5 trillion. We're going to pass 34 trillion in less than 90 days. And, uh, and now we're
00:25:49.660
calculating, we're losing the deficits, 200 billion a month. Uh, what is your strongest
00:25:54.040
recommendation to the speaker of the house right now about what he needs to focus on?
00:25:57.920
He needs to cut the spending and he needs to do it fast. And I know there's a lot of talk about
00:26:04.720
how we need to cut things like social security and Medicare. Look, the current expenses of those
00:26:09.160
programs, while they are high, they are not what's breaking the back of the budget. It's the
00:26:13.640
discretionary stuff. Do we need to address those programs down the road? Absolutely. We, we need
00:26:18.960
reforms for people like myself who are currently working today and are going to retire in 30, 40,
00:26:24.100
50 years. Those that's when the numbers really get scary. Those programs do not need to be cut
00:26:30.020
today. What needs to be cut today is the discretionary stuff. And again, we need to do it
00:26:34.380
fast. And you need to, the political class needs to earn the respect of the American people to have
00:26:41.680
the conversation about entitlements by cutting the discretionary. Anybody, as soon as I hear these
00:26:46.920
people say, well, it's all the mandatory. That's the problem. That is a lie. They're either too dumb to
00:26:51.620
understand the problem or they're lying to you because they're too gutless to cut the spending.
00:26:55.780
EJ, where do people get to you over at Heritage and on your always spicy Twitter feed?
00:27:02.360
Best place to follow me is going to be on Twitter. And the handle there is at real EJ and Tony.
00:27:09.320
Thank you, brother. Thank you for carving out time to come on. Really appreciate it.
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This is one of the most outrageous targetings. You have mobilized your division, the most powerful
00:29:37.540
law enforcement division in the world, against traditionalist Catholics, whatever the heck that
00:29:41.880
means. And you're just told us you have not fired a single person. I mean, here, it gets worse.
00:29:48.480
Your Richmond field office, they thought there was nothing wrong with this. The House interviewed
00:29:52.640
the head of the Richmond field office. He testified. It's all here in the public report. I refer you to
00:29:57.880
it. Pages 12, 13, 14. He testified. He saw no problem with this. He said he thought it was fine.
00:30:04.180
In fact, we have internal memoranda of the members of the field office high-fiving one peer reviewer.
00:30:10.300
Another member of the field office wrote, I think this is a great product. I really enjoyed the read.
00:30:15.580
Do you have a problem with systemic bigotry against Catholics and the FBI? No.
00:30:20.500
What are you going to do about this? Are you going to fire these people or not?
00:30:25.860
Those individuals have all been admonished, and it is all going into their, if you would let me finish
00:30:30.740
my answer, it is all going into their annual performance reviews, which has direct impact
00:30:37.980
Oh, I see. Oh, I see. I see. So the 60 million American Catholics who we now, who now learn that
00:30:45.920
your FBI has recommended that priests be recruiters and informants, your FBI has gone to
00:30:51.760
priests, choir directors, but we're to feel better because you've admonished them for their wrongdoing.
00:30:59.920
Why not? I am taking your testimony where you said you do not. You said categorically,
00:31:04.420
categorically, you said we do not. We do not go to priests and ask them about their parishioners.
00:31:10.380
You said we do not. You didn't say we haven't. You didn't say we won't. You said we don't.
00:31:15.080
As it turns out, you do, and you kept it from the public. You deliberately misled Congress about it,
00:31:20.640
and the only reason we know about it is because a whistleblower came forward.
00:31:23.400
I just fundamentally disagree with your characterization.
00:31:26.680
There's no characterization of the facts of the facts, and I fundamentally resent the fact
00:31:30.220
that you have violated, if not the spirit, if not the letter, certainly the spirit of the First
00:31:35.360
Amendment. The FBI is already required to obtain a court order in some circumstances
00:31:41.100
before accessing the contents of Americans' communications in the context of 702. They're
00:31:47.260
already required for that in some circumstances. Since 2018, how many times has that requirement
00:31:52.720
been triggered, according to government reporting? Do you know?
00:32:03.820
I think there have been two instances where I think it's maybe the number.
00:32:08.000
103. 103 times it's been triggered. And out of those 103 identified times,
00:32:12.840
the FBI should have obtained a court order. How many times did the FBI actually obtain one? Do you know?
00:32:20.000
Zero. So you're telling me that the FBI has completely ignored the limited court order requirement
00:32:25.960
that it's already subjected to. You have the audacity to come here. And you told us that getting,
00:32:31.100
adding a warrant requirement to 702, even for queries involving U.S. persons on U.S. soil,
00:32:38.660
that that would amount to some sort of unilateral disarmament. That, you have a lot of gall, sir.
00:32:44.000
This is disgraceful. The Fourth Amendment requires more than that, and you know it.
00:32:49.960
I know every single time for centuries, even prior to the founding of this country,
00:32:54.900
there were similar protections built into the laws of the United Kingdom before we became a country.
00:33:01.140
Even then, the government was making the same darn argument you're making today,
00:33:04.860
which is, it's too hard. This would make it hard for the government. It's why we have a constitution,
00:33:12.640
The FBI is the American Gestapo. Let's just be honest. Ray, dude, your day is coming, bro.
00:33:23.400
It's not going to just be, you know, heated letters and heated exchanges. You're going to be
00:33:28.660
totally investigated and reviewed after Biden, the illegitimate usurper at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
00:33:36.280
is turfed out shortly after, what, 5 November of 2024. And all of you guys, all of your actions. So,
00:33:44.640
hey, save your receipts, save your emails, save all your memos, save it all, save your phones,
00:33:50.900
all of it. Julie Kelly, another disgusting display by the FBI director who just perjures himself,
00:33:58.180
not even prepared. How many? I think two. No, sir, it's 103. I mean, he's in your face that he's not
00:34:05.660
even going to prep for these hearings. He's just, he's just sitting there casually. Oh yeah, that's
00:34:10.120
right. The lies, misrepresentation, and the perjury of this guy is unbelievable. Please tell me,
00:34:16.180
ma'am, on J6, because people's heads are blown up by the scene in the footage, that the depositions,
00:34:23.840
the interviews, the testimony, all of it recorded, I think from a thousand, you know, witnesses,
00:34:29.740
only a couple of transcripts released. Is that all missing? Has that been, has that evidence been
00:34:35.240
destroyed by Benny Thompson, that group of criminals up there? Apparently, according to
00:34:42.040
Benny Thompson, who was the chairman of this select committee, he notified Representative Barry
00:34:46.860
Loudermilk over the summer in a letter that all of the video recordings of the more than that 1,000
00:34:53.740
depositions taken by the January 6th select committee, a body of Congress, are no longer available.
00:35:00.820
Representative Loudermilk said that they were gone, that they vanished. We're not sure if they
00:35:05.860
have been destroyed. What Benny Thompson said is that they were not preserved. And the reason why
00:35:11.680
he said, astonishingly, is because they had written transcripts of the video depositions.
00:35:18.620
That should be sufficient that they deemed those written transcripts, apparently transcribed by
00:35:25.660
congressional staffers, official court reporters. I don't know who these people were,
00:35:31.700
but the written transcripts were enough of a record to meet the House rules in terms of preserving all
00:35:37.780
evidence collected during a congressional investigation that was then supposed to be
00:35:42.440
turned over to the next Congress. So that would have been Republicans after they took over in January of
00:35:47.860
2023. That is simply not the case. And so where are these tapes? Did they really disappear?
00:35:54.600
Had they been intentionally destroyed? Does Benny Thompson have them in his sock drawer?
00:36:00.720
Where are they? But furthermore, Steve, aside from that, so we have 1,000 plus witnesses,
00:36:07.400
the January 6th select committee assured the public that they were going to release all of the evidence
00:36:12.420
they collected. They did it. Taking aside from the videos, you have hundreds of transcribed
00:36:18.320
interviews that are still missing. If you go to the January 6th select committee website,
00:36:23.260
you will only see about 300 transcribed interviews out of 1,000. And do you know one transcript that's
00:36:31.060
missing? Bobby Engel, the Secret Service agent, the Cassidy Hutchinson said Donald Trump almost
00:36:38.000
strangled to death on January 6th because he wouldn't take him to the Capitol and instead took him to the
00:36:42.700
White House. That transcribed video recording and interview is nowhere to be found.
00:36:49.420
If the videos weren't worth anything, then why don't they just do the transcribed? Why don't
00:36:55.180
they just read those at the hearing? All you saw was the videos. And Loudermack, he's a lovely guy.
00:37:01.540
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure he's doing a great job. But people couldn't pick him out of a police
00:37:04.960
lineup. It's been a year. This is December. They should have done that transition in the first two
00:37:10.160
days. We should have talked about this on January 15th to 23. How could it be December 5th? And now over the
00:37:17.300
last couple of days, this is getting to be a thing. And I don't hear Johnson or Jordan or Comer or
00:37:23.720
anybody talking about this, ma'am. Well, because, Steve, this is what you and I talked about. A
00:37:29.060
really colossal mistake that House Republicans made was not forming their own January 6th select
00:37:35.480
committee. Not only to investigate the committee that we know buried evidence and now it apparently
00:37:42.280
destroyed evidence, they twisted the entire narrative to blame Donald Trump. Even committee
00:37:48.420
investigators, after the report was released in December of 2022, complained to the media that
00:37:55.460
especially Liz Cheney turned the entire exercise into a blame, get Trump operation instead of really
00:38:02.180
investigating what some people believed were intelligence and law enforcement failures. That's
00:38:07.400
why that section of the report, Steve, is buried in an appendix. It should be the focal point of
00:38:13.300
the report. Instead, Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson and Adam Schiff buried that at the end. And now they
00:38:19.780
have buried evidence that could contradict, of course, the cherry-picked clips that they put on TV
00:38:25.640
that they have played on a nonstop loop. Because then you could look at what maybe the witness said
00:38:33.980
before or after. And in a court of law, of course, this would all be relevant. What's even more
00:38:40.020
outrageous, Steve, is that Special Counsel Jack Smith and Judge Tanya Chutkin called Trump's lawyers
00:38:46.960
attempt to get the videos. They both referred to that as a fishing expedition. In any other situation,
00:38:54.880
the Department of Justice would be demanding an investigation or opening one into obstruction of
00:38:59.640
an official proceeding, their favorite felony, destruction of evidence. I mean, there are
00:39:04.200
numerous felonies that they could be investigating, Benny Thompson and this committee with. But instead,
00:39:09.420
Jack Smith is defending the destruction of these records. Furthermore, Judge Chutkin also agreed that it
00:39:15.980
was a fishing expedition. And get this, she told Donald Trump's lawyers, you shouldn't worry about the
00:39:21.500
videotapes because we have the transcribed interviews. And furthermore, if you're looking for
00:39:26.400
impeachable evidence, which would mean evidence that would discredit a witness that you think their
00:39:32.740
demeanor would tip off in a video interview, you should go back to the transcript, see where they might
00:39:40.000
have looked like they were backpedaling or not telling the truth. And then maybe we can go back to the
00:39:46.200
videos and see if that's relevant. This is a cover-up of them on a massive scale. Not just Benny
00:39:52.140
Thompson, but the DOJ and Judge Chutkin as well, defending the destruction of key evidence in the
00:39:59.700
biggest criminal domestic terror investigation since 9-11.
00:40:05.720
What do you recommend? Before I do that, hang on, because I'm going to keep you through the break.
00:40:11.300
Because you cover this nonstop. You know this better than anybody in this country. And I'm also not a
00:40:16.240
lawyer. What is this thing about Cassie Hutchison? Cassie Hutchison's now changed her testimony.
00:40:21.040
Or they changed her testimony. She sat up there on national TV for three days. And this is my beef
00:40:28.060
with the committee. It wasn't formed correctly. You didn't have a ranking member and you didn't
00:40:31.980
have a minority counsel. They couldn't get the evidence and they couldn't cross-examine.
00:40:36.100
That's what made Watergate what it was. That's what made Iran-Contra what it was. You have to have
00:40:41.040
the structure so you actually get the evidence and you can cross-examine. That makes everything,
00:40:45.760
that's the American concept of law. Are you telling me now, Cassie Hutchison, who's been,
00:40:50.200
oh, this is taking Trump down. She's taking Trump down on every TV show, wrote a worthless book. She
00:40:55.300
went everywhere, got millions of dollars. She's changing her testimony under the cover of night?
00:41:01.320
Yes, she is. She changed it and was a 15-page called Errata, which I guess corrects her official
00:41:08.440
testimony that she gave. I think she was interviewed three times behind closed doors with the committee.
00:41:14.580
And then, of course, gave her performance, her televised performance. But then afterwards,
00:41:19.580
they are given, apparently, the transcript to read. And her lawyers gave a 15-page correction
00:41:24.940
to her testimony. We have not seen that document either.
00:41:30.680
But aren't those supposed to be like nits, right? Where I said the, maybe Esther said ah.
00:41:37.100
Is this going to be where she's actually changing her testimony? Have you ever heard of a 15-page
00:41:41.800
errata before? No. And actually, John Solomon from Just the News interviewed, I believe,
00:41:49.700
Alan Dershowitz or some legal reporter who said, who viewed parts of this errata and said,
00:41:55.040
this is not a correction. This is not, you know, we want to underscore that this is what
00:42:00.020
this was meant to be said. It was completely changing her testimony, especially related to
00:42:07.820
that incident that she described in the presidential vehicle on January 6th.
00:42:16.560
And you said that the Secret Service agent, she lied. She bald-faced lied.
00:42:21.120
You could tell at the time, Trump's not coming across. He's not going to come across there.
00:42:24.480
Trump doesn't do that. This is also your point about the Secret Service, Bobby Engel.
00:42:29.660
His is mysteriously missing. His mysteriously not put forward. Is that correct, Julie Kelly?
00:42:36.480
Yes. So are a lot of Secret Service records, Steve. This is also another underreported angle
00:42:42.120
of January 6th. There are serious and voluminous records from the Secret Service, including text
00:42:48.580
messages that were deleted and still have not been recovered. The Secret Service's role before and on
00:42:55.480
January 6th is still one of the most underreported stories. And this is why, again, we need a special
00:43:07.200
First off, it's not just the cover-up. The crime, normally they say it's a cover-up, not the crime.
00:43:11.620
This is the crime. What exactly happened on January 6th? What was the planning for it? Who was involved
00:43:17.240
in it? All the records, everything. We're going to get to the bottom of this because this is outrageous.
00:43:21.960
Now you've got Cassie Hutchison up there as Joan of Arc, and now she's going to change
00:43:25.440
her testimony. Short break. Julie Kelly after the break.
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Economy. Julie Kelly, heads are blowing up right now, baby. Tell me. You got secret service. This
00:46:41.220
thing stinks to high heaven. You've dedicated three years of your life, and it's paying off. I mean,
00:46:46.360
you're a providential figure because without you, we wouldn't know any of this because it was too
00:46:50.740
complicated, too big, too big a scale. So tell me what's going on. So as I said, this particular
00:46:57.600
secret service transcript is missing, both the written and the video recording as well. There
00:47:03.520
are text messages between more than nearly three dozen secret service officials, including the head of
00:47:11.520
the secret service that were automatically deleted. And this was at the Department of Homeland Security
00:47:17.980
in late January of 2021. They were deleted. All of these texts dating back to December of 2020
00:47:25.080
through the day of January 6, 2021. Then suddenly we were told that there was an automatic. I think
00:47:33.840
we've heard this before. Maybe it was the Mueller investigation said there was this automatic phone
00:47:38.380
update. All of these text messages have disappeared. They have never been recovered either. At first,
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House Democrats, including the committee, were interested to see what happened to those texts.
00:47:49.220
That story, that scandal has completely disappeared. The role of the secret service, what they did
00:47:56.380
and what they didn't do before and on January 6th still is a huge mystery that a select committee of
00:48:02.720
our own would uncover or try to. I'm telling you, um, when I cover these January 6th trials,
00:48:09.500
where the secret service took Mike Pence, where specifically they took him, that has been under
00:48:16.740
protective order. You cannot cross-examine a secret service agent to say exactly what happened with the
00:48:23.160
transport of Mike Pence. Now we're told that he remained on Capitol grounds. And that's important
00:48:28.840
because it's a linchpin to hundreds of criminal charges against January 6th defendants. But we
00:48:35.260
still do not have documented proof that that is the case. Furthermore, here's something I want to say
00:48:41.600
that I, go ahead. Yeah. No, go ahead, ma'am. It's your, your role. Something else that I want to cover.
00:48:47.620
Something else that's important. The Biden White House has four transcripts. We don't know who they
00:48:53.460
belong to. They were given to the White House, uh, general counsel from the January 6th select
00:49:00.380
committee, the Democrats. Those four transcripts have been at the White House for security review
00:49:05.980
for nearly a year. And the White House lawyer told Barry Loudermilk in August in a letter,
00:49:13.020
we are still conducting that security, uh, review. Once we do with more, um, protections to the
00:49:21.200
transcript, we will give those four transcripts to NABRA, the archivist, and then we will send you a
00:49:27.540
copy. What's the holdup? What possibly could they be doing for a year to four transcripts? Who are the
00:49:35.020
individuals? And when will we finally see those transcribed interviews? Even if the names and
00:49:40.380
identities are. Okay. You got, you got to, you got to help me out here. I know we got to bounce
00:49:44.660
the second hour, but when we took over the house, Pelosi runs this thing with an iron fist. Why are
00:49:52.780
you and I sitting here having this very interesting conversation with our audience? My audience's head
00:49:57.520
blowing up across the nation with this outrage and who's in charge. And I love Loudermilk, but you got
00:50:04.460
to get some, I mean, where is, where's Jordan? Where's Comer? Where's Speaker Johnson? Where are these
00:50:10.280
people? What should be done here? We need to form our own committee and they need to staff it as heavily
00:50:16.980
as the Democrats did with their committee. We need to do two things. Tell the truth about January 6th
00:50:22.720
leading up to that day and on that day and expose the coverup, the lies and the deceit. Let's emphasize
00:50:29.640
the deceit of the January 6th select committee, the fraud that they perpetrated on the American people
00:50:35.700
that now many Americans are waking up to, that what they were told, what house Democrats once again,
00:50:42.600
lied to the American people about is not the true account of that day. And certainly what happened
00:50:48.800
beforehand and afterwards. Julie Kelly, before I let you, do you believe there's been a crimes
00:50:54.860
committed by the J6 committee in perpetrating these lies, ma'am? Well, look, if you can charge Donald
00:51:01.600
Trump with conspiracy to defraud the United States, one of four accounts in Jack Smith's indictment,
00:51:06.780
you can certainly safely argue with far more evidence that House Democrats from Nancy Pelosi to
00:51:13.080
Benny Thompson to once again, Adam Schiff, Jamie Raskin, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger did the exact
00:51:19.400
same thing. We know they have witnesses who lied under oath. Cassidy Hutchinson, Harry Dunn, Michael
00:51:24.940
Fanon, the celebrity cops, Eccolina Ganell. They all lied under oath. They lied directly to the American
00:51:30.580
people. This was a fraud of massive proportions. So yes, if we can bring that charge against Donald
00:51:37.040
Trump for allegedly being responsible or trying to investigate election fraud, there's certainly a lot
00:51:43.760
more evidence to bring that charge and many more against the people who once again deceive this
00:51:49.200
country and are trying to throw it up for grabs and destroy it. Unbelievable, ma'am. Julie, how did it
00:51:56.620
get to all your contact points? People got to follow you now more than ever. Declassified with Julie
00:52:01.880
Kelly on Substack and Twitter X Julie underscore Kelly to where I post a lot of breaking news, motions,
00:52:08.280
et cetera, like I did today. Unbelievable, ma'am. Thank you so much. Love having you on here. I know
00:52:15.440
the audience does. We're going to make sure there's some action taking on this. We're going to use our
00:52:18.920
human agency to move it here. Thank you so much. Next hour, your head's going to blow up also. So
00:52:26.600
stick around. We got a lot to go through, including COP28. No, it's not a convention that
00:52:32.240
Bernie Kerik's going to go to. It's something that's having a massive influence your life
00:52:36.180
and nobody will really cover it. We're going to get into all that in the next hour. I want to make
00:52:41.380
sure you heard the bad news from EJ and Tony. I'm going to push this thing out tonight and I'm going to
00:52:46.860
have Grace and Mo do it, the article in the New York Post. Also, Dave Bratz analysis this morning.
00:52:54.540
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00:52:58.920
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