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00:00:00.000 Yeah. The thought was simple. We have a lot of writers at The Atlantic who spent many years

00:00:06.900 covering different aspects of Trump and Trumpism. And I wanted just to pull them all together in

00:00:13.860 one easy to read package, one copy of the print magazine. Obviously, it's online right now at

00:00:21.000 theatlantic.com. And I wanted our writers to describe as best as they could what would happen

00:00:28.960 in their areas of expertise should Trump become president again. And the theory, of course,

00:00:33.740 is that the next Trump presidency will be worse. The restraints will be off. There won't be any

00:00:41.380 quote unquote adults in the room anymore. McKay Coppins has a piece about who would take jobs

00:00:47.420 and who would get jobs in the next Trump administration as one example. I have a multitude

00:00:53.240 of pieces. David Frum, who's been very, very early on writing about the threat of autocracy,

00:00:58.960 writing about what this would look like. Tom Nichols, many of the Atlantic stars of the

00:01:04.780 Morning Joe cinematic universe are in this issue. Tom has written about what would happen to the

00:01:11.500 military should Trump become president again. Caitlin Dickerson on immigration and on and on and on.

00:01:17.660 What I wanted was a package, an easy to understand package. Look, this is what is going to happen.

00:01:25.520 And it's not just pure speculation. It's it's as you point out, all you have to do is listen

00:01:31.180 to Donald Trump and the people and the loyalists around Donald Trump. He's telling you what's going

00:01:37.300 to happen. He's going to use the power of the Justice Department to persecute, not prosecute,

00:01:43.400 but persecute his enemies. We know what's going to happen to the civil service. We know what's going

00:01:48.980 to happen on immigration. We know that that the generals that we count on to be apolitical when

00:01:55.800 they run the military, we know that they're in danger and that they're going to be replaced by

00:02:00.180 I think the technical term would be nut jobs. This is all this is all apparent. And so I wanted to put

00:02:08.360 it one place early. And with any luck, you know, at Christmas, maybe people can read it and bring it

00:02:14.740 to their relatives who are on the fence and say, look, here's what's going to happen. Do you want

00:02:18.960 this or do you not want this? That's very simple. And again, let me just let me just say, because

00:02:22.480 this is really important. This is not partisan, right? This is not about Republican ideas, conservative

00:02:27.940 ideas versus liberal ideas or Democratic ideas. This is about this is about standing up for democracy.

00:02:34.920 This is not about Republican ideology. This is about Trump's predisposition toward autocracy.

00:02:39.980 I'm highly confident that when you go back and is a senior member of this administration,

00:02:46.560 President Trump's administration, starting in the afternoon of the 20th of January of 2025,

00:02:52.000 do you feel confident that you will be able to deliver the goods, that we can have serious

00:02:57.440 prosecutions and accountability? And I want the Morning Joe producers that watch us and all the

00:03:01.960 producers to watch us. This is just not rhetoric. We're absolutely dead serious. We're not you

00:03:07.580 You cannot have a constitutional republic and allow what these deep staters have done to the

00:03:14.520 country. The deep state, the administrative state, the fourth branch of government never mentioned in

00:03:19.100 the Constitution is going to be taken apart brick by brick. And the people that did these evil deeds

00:03:25.580 will be held accountable and prosecuted, criminal prosecutions, cash. I know you're probably going to be

00:03:32.140 head of the CIA, but do you believe that you can deliver the goods on this in a pretty short,

00:03:36.300 in a pretty short order of the first couple of months so we can get rolling on prosecutions?

00:03:40.940 Yes, we got the bench for it, Bannon. And you know, those guys, I'm not going to go out there

00:03:44.440 and say their names right now. So the radical left wing media can terrorize them. But excuse me,

00:03:48.980 the one thing we learned in the Trump administration, the first go around is we got to put in all

00:03:52.780 America patriots top to bottom. And we got them for law enforcement. We got them for Intel

00:03:57.680 collection. We got them for offensive operations. We got them for DOD, CIA, everywhere. And the one

00:04:04.280 thing we will do that they never will do is we will follow the facts and the law and go to courts of law

00:04:09.960 and correct these justices and lawyers who have been prosecuting these cases based on politics

00:04:15.940 and actually issuing them as lawfare. We will go out and find the conspirators, not just in government,

00:04:22.060 but in the media. Yes, we're going to come after the people in the media who lied about American

00:04:27.180 citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections. We're going to come after you,

00:04:31.020 whether it's criminally or civilly, we'll figure that out. But yeah, we're putting you all on notice.

00:04:35.080 And Steve, this is why they hate us. This is why we're tyrannical. This is why we're dictators.

00:04:39.760 Corruption unbound. So yesterday, Frank, we were talking about some of the foreign policy stuff with David

00:04:45.400 Trump about a potential withdrawal from NATO and the implications of that. What are you writing

00:04:50.200 about this morning? Which corruption specifically? Right. If you go back and you look at the first

00:04:56.140 Trump term, there was a great deal of corruption. You had cabinet secretaries traveling on private

00:05:02.560 jets. You had paid for by people who they were administering. You had all sorts of people who wanted

00:05:09.960 to change policy, paying the Trump resorts and hotels enormous sums of money with the hopes that

00:05:16.920 that, too, would change policy. We also saw the way in the first Trump term that Trump tried to use

00:05:23.160 the regulatory state to punish enemies. Well, that was all just a dry run. Everybody figured out

00:05:29.820 the way that the system works. So if the first Trump term was what Paul Krugman described as

00:05:35.760 malevolence tempered by incompetence, the second Trump term would be tempered by all of the

00:05:42.280 experience that was gleaned. There is no how now. And there's a term that the Hungarians have to

00:05:48.880 describe what emerged there under Viktor Orban, which was that a mafia state emerged. So if the Trump

00:05:55.900 officials come in, clear out the deep state, install their cronies in power, those cronies have no

00:06:03.360 allegiance to higher norms or higher values. They will all be susceptible to corruption.

00:06:10.380 And the way the system works is, is that you start to have this corruption that emerges

00:06:14.280 at the center and is protected by all of these foot soldiers who were also profiting along the way.

00:06:21.580 I want to be very, very clear on this. To be clear, do you in any way have any plans whatsoever,

00:06:28.260 if we're elected president, to abuse power, to break the law, to use the government to go after

00:06:35.480 people? You mean like they're using right now. So in the history of our country,

00:06:40.800 what's happened to us, again, has never happened before. Over nonsense, over nothing, made up charges.

00:06:51.740 I often say Al Capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals. He was a

00:06:58.040 mob boss, the likes of which Scarface, they call him. And he got indicted once. I got indicted four

00:07:03.440 times. I want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focused on this and

00:07:08.980 attacking you under no circumstances. You are promising America tonight. You would never abuse power

00:07:16.160 as retribution against anybody. Except for day one. Except for? He's going crazy. Except for day

00:07:22.880 one. Meaning? I want to close the border and I want to drill, drill, drill. That's not retribution.

00:07:30.880 I'm going to be, I'm going to be, you know, he keeps, we love this guy. He says, you're not going

00:07:36.920 to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no. Other than day one. It's kind of like that. Believe him.

00:07:43.120 We talked about this. We talked about this. Remember the answer we talked about and Donald

00:07:46.720 Trump doesn't do it. He had previous interview members said, you didn't take all those documents

00:07:50.360 back to your beach club. I did. And I had the right to do it. And Hannity kind of droops his head.

00:07:55.340 But the point is, again, he's saying now just explicitly, I'm going to do a bunch of stuff on

00:07:59.900 day one. And if anybody believes it's going to end in day one, I've got a bridge to sell you across

00:08:04.260 the river here. So this is what we're hearing from Donald Trump more and more. And it's the reason

00:08:08.480 we're hearing more and more from Joe Biden about the dangers of a potential second term.

00:08:13.120 Well, I mean, Willie, think about it. If any other politician in American history

00:08:18.460 were asked the question, are you going to be a dictator? No, Donald Trump never answered it.

00:08:25.520 He never answered it. And when he said, and I just want there, there's a sickness. There is a sickness

00:08:33.320 among, unfortunately, some of our fellow Americans regarding authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

00:08:42.860 They want it. Because Willie, when he promised that he would be a dictator on day one,

00:08:49.860 he got applause.

00:08:51.200 Well, and that's on Fox News. And there's a lot of people watching who are right on board.

00:08:56.560 Even before he talked, even before he talked about the border, which a majority of Americans

00:09:03.080 would support closing the border today, probably an overwhelming majority, are drilling.

00:09:07.940 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on

00:09:19.160 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a

00:09:26.020 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world

00:09:29.800 to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:09:32.300 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,

00:09:39.060 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my

00:09:45.440 purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:09:52.640 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:09:56.060 It's Wednesday, 6 December in the year of our Lord, 2023. You're in the War Room. I want to go

00:10:06.380 first to Boris, who joins us by phone. Boris, the Atlantic Magazine. I've got Darren Beatty's

00:10:13.580 going to follow you. We're going to drill down even deeper in this, but it's all now. Their effort

00:10:17.700 to stop Trump, they can't beat him on policy. They can't beat him on his term in office because

00:10:22.240 it overwhelms Biden's disaster. It's that he's a dictator. He's a fascist. Everybody running

00:10:28.140 is a fascist. This is the new playbook. President Trump fired back in Iowa in a magnificent speech.

00:10:35.260 Your assessment, sir?

00:10:37.900 It's an honor to be with you, honored with the posse. My assessment is that this shows the

00:10:42.240 desperation from the Democrats, from the rhinos. President Trump is absolutely dominant. I mean,

00:10:48.320 the polling came out yesterday. He's at 75 to 18, 19 against both the Florida governor and the former

00:10:55.780 South Carolina governor. It's an absolute dominance. And then in the general, he's up 10 points

00:11:00.700 on the stuff of Joe Biden. So when Democrats see this, when there's an article in the New York Times

00:11:07.420 this morning with a headline for the effect of all bad news for Democrats, all worries for Biden,

00:11:13.600 of course, they're going to get desperate. And they'll go to their old playbook. Oh,

00:11:16.740 it's authoritarianism. It's dictatorship. What are you talking about? President Trump had the most

00:11:23.180 successful term in American history. He won by a significant historic margin in 16. And I hate to

00:11:31.220 break it to everybody, but I'll say it again, won by more in 2020, an election that was rigged and

00:11:36.580 stolen. And that's why the American people want him back. And it's not about authoritarianism,

00:11:40.620 dictatorship. It's about a clear contrast. Look where we were just three years ago.

00:11:46.420 And, you know, actually, Doug McKinnon, no friend of ours, put a piece out in the

00:11:50.480 messenger about three, four days ago. It said, Biden is failing on the key question.

00:11:56.880 Were you worse or better off? Three years ago, there's no doubt America's were better off.

00:12:01.580 We had a real southern border. We had complete energy dominance. We had an economy of soaring

00:12:07.980 inflation that was way down. And we didn't have a war in Eastern Europe and a disaster,

00:12:12.700 complete disaster in the Middle East, a war there that has only continued to unravel and

00:12:17.580 an absolute lack of leadership from, again, whatever's left of Joe Biden, whoever's running

00:12:21.620 things over there at the White House. Notice nobody's saying anymore that, oh, well, Biden's

00:12:27.160 doing this. How's Democrats ditching the Bidenomics term and the messaging? Because they know it's

00:12:33.380 a total and utter failure. So what are they desperately going back to? This nonsense regarding President

00:12:38.980 Trump? What is President Trump going to do? Yes, he's going to close our border. Yes, he's going

00:12:43.140 to stop the drugs flowing in. Yes, he's going to save our American energy and independence. And yes,

00:12:48.960 he's going to put an end to the wars and the ridiculous spending on those wars all over the

00:12:54.300 world. And that's why he's absolutely crushing both the general and the primary.

00:13:01.560 Boris, you've been with us from the beginning. And November 4th, I think, of 2020,

00:13:06.260 you were out in Arizona. You were flown out there to sort this thing out. Elections have

00:13:10.860 consequences. Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences. Has Biden's illegitimate Biden

00:13:17.520 regime proven that saying out? We've got about a minute. I'd like to have your thoughts.

00:13:22.360 No doubt about it, Steve. We've been saying that from day one. That's been the mantra of the show,

00:13:26.700 along with signal, not noise. And if you look at the results of the stolen election,

00:13:31.480 how far America and vitally Americans have been set back on everything again, from energy to the

00:13:38.960 safety of our cities to our long-term survival, it has been a disaster. This administration,

00:13:45.120 this term, is the worst in American history. Just remember the honored dead in Afghanistan.

00:13:50.300 Remember the Americans killed, annihilated, massacred in Israel. Look at what's happening in Ukraine.

00:13:56.800 And look at our homeless living on the streets of New York, D.C., San Francisco. This is all

00:14:03.120 thanks to crooked, pathetic, terrible Joe Biden. And that's why we need President Trump back in

00:14:09.260 office to save our country. Yes, I'll say it, to save the world. Elections have consequences.

00:14:14.360 The stolen election has had catastrophic consequences. We've got to fix it by bringing back President

00:14:19.520 Donald J. Trump.

00:14:20.680 Boris, quickly, what are all your touch points? People need to follow you more than ever.

00:14:28.560 Steve, thanks so much. Sign up right now, BorisVP.com. Sign up at BorisVP.com. Hot on the website.

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00:14:37.960 Boris underscore Epstein. Stay strong. God bless. And all offense.

00:14:43.500 Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break here.

00:14:46.480 Darren Beattie is going to give us a very nuanced analysis and observations on this and J6. All of it

00:14:54.280 next in the War Room.

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00:16:22.540 Very, very clear on this. To be clear, do you in any way have any plans whatsoever, if we're elected

00:16:30.420 president, to abuse power, to break the law, to use the government to go after people?

00:16:37.500 You mean like they're using right now. So in the history of our country, what's happened to us?

00:16:45.580 Okay. And Sean Hannity goes back and asked the question the second time, hey, Sean, you know,

00:16:54.620 at least get a producer and get in your ear. That's called a heckle. You asked an absurd,

00:17:01.360 this epitomizes the Murdochs. Let me just give you the history of this thing. Roger Ailes was a genius.

00:17:06.660 Okay. It was genius, but he was also deep into the establishment Republicans. I love Roger Ailes and

00:17:13.860 he and I disagreed fundamentally on many things, but I always admired him and admired him as a just

00:17:20.500 incredible understanding of media and information warfare. Murdoch's a moron. Murdoch so missed what

00:17:30.360 happened in 1516. He was ordering Ailes to do this stuff. He came to the White House. He's not a bright

00:17:34.460 guy. He's not a bright guy. He's kind of a nepo because his father, they had money. The sons are

00:17:41.760 the biggest morons in the world. Untethered with Ailes gone, this is truly a TV for stupid people.

00:17:49.480 Sean Hannity actually thought he was helping Trump last night. Let me ask you a question. Will you be

00:17:52.860 a dictator? Trump gives a full heckle. And here's what I love. The audience gets it. They're laughing.

00:17:59.560 By the way, Sean, they're laughing at you. They're laughing at the stupid, ridiculous question. Of

00:18:05.880 course, Trump's not a dictator. It's absurd on the face of even to consider, even to ask that question

00:18:11.100 that Morning Joe and those guys can cut the clips on shows you're an idiot. And we don't have time

00:18:16.780 for idiots, bro. This is a war. Okay. This is a war. We don't have time for a sunshine patriots in this

00:18:24.720 nonsense. And don't carry the water for the Murdochs. And don't carry the water for the left.

00:18:29.920 And if you don't say, well, I'm the biggest little Trump thing, you're carrying the water.

00:18:34.320 Whoever, it is disgusting that you ask that question. Let me be blunt. It's disgusting you

00:18:41.100 ask that question. But then when Trump heckles you, that's a heckle, bro. And when the audience

00:18:47.480 has a belly laugh and they're laughing at you, you come back and ask it again, how dumb are you?

00:18:56.100 It's, this is absurd. This is, this is real life. We're playing for keeps here, dude.

00:19:01.340 We don't care about your $25 million contract. We're playing for keeps. This is war.

00:19:07.980 And you're just not good enough. You're just not smart enough. And I've been adamantly opposed

00:19:13.020 since Murdoch is all they're doing is pushing Nikki Haley. They push Yunkin. They push DeSantis.

00:19:17.600 It is the neoliberal neocon with Karl Rove and that whole crowd.

00:19:23.420 And no, dude, but flipping a little bit and flipping a little bit. No, it's not good enough. We saw where

00:19:26.980 you guys were. We saw where you guys were. We saw who got in the trenches, who helped the president

00:19:33.200 turn this thing around. It's absurd. You're carrying the water for our enemies. Don't you get that?

00:19:41.660 And don't you get it? When, when the guy heckles you and the audience laughs in your face, maybe

00:19:47.960 that's the time to write down that number two pencil. Maybe I shouldn't go in and ask it

00:19:52.320 again. He gave you a fricking answer and the audience backed him up in the answer. Full

00:19:59.340 stop. That's all you need. Move on to the next thing. Obscene and obscenity. Darren Beattie

00:20:07.880 and we're playing for keeps. I want to bring in a smart guy, Darren Beattie and Revolver.

00:20:13.180 You cut to the chase for this thing on Kagan because that was most dangerous, but I want

00:20:16.760 you to address our cold open with the Atlantic and Morning Joe and what they're trying to do

00:20:21.060 Boris. They can't win on policies. They never want to ask the question, are you better off

00:20:25.280 today? No, nobody's going to, everybody's going to say it's terrible. It's awful. It's horrible.

00:20:29.660 They can't win on policies and they can't win on execution. Look at Trump's, look at the lived

00:20:34.020 experience of the country under Trump, the economy, peace and prosperity. So it's just

00:20:38.580 not policies. It's a guy that can make it happen. They said, well, everybody, you know, all the

00:20:42.080 donors. Oh, well, you know, we like Trump's policy. We don't like Trump. Dude, you got

00:20:45.840 to execute the policies. You think this just happens? Oh, we're going to announce something

00:20:49.760 that just happened. It doesn't even happen in the government. What do you think internationally?

00:20:53.100 You need a strong, tough individual. Beattie, walk me through this. I don't want to get

00:20:58.940 to the Kagan piece because Darren Beattie is right and his piece is magnificent. He's

00:21:03.440 the only one that called him out to their face. They're trying to set up Trump for an

00:21:07.860 assassination. Let me repeat that. They're trying to set up Donald Trump for an assassination.

00:21:12.820 They are trying to take out Donald J. Trump personally. Darren Beattie, walk me through your

00:21:18.920 case. Well, there's a lot going on there. It's great to be back. But yes, the opening of

00:21:26.840 your show with The Atlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg, all of these people are sort of notorious

00:21:32.180 disasters on the foreign policy front and really any front you can imagine, just failed talking

00:21:40.240 heads, the same types who are telling us over and over that Trump didn't have a chance in

00:21:44.620 2015 and are now pretending like he's going to be some dictator that, well, by implication,

00:21:50.840 we have to get rid of. Now, how do you get rid of them? Well, the system has tried

00:21:55.500 deplatforming him from his chosen vehicles of communication. They've tried deplatforming him

00:22:03.000 from Twitter. They've tried taking him off the Internet and his supporters off the Internet.

00:22:07.340 That didn't work. So now they've tried burying him in legal trouble, both on the civil side

00:22:13.500 and on the criminal side. And judging from the polls, not only has that not worked, but it's

00:22:19.720 backfired dramatically. So if you can't deplatform somebody from social media.

00:22:24.840 But hold, but hold, but hold, but hold. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:22:27.780 Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

00:22:32.340 How do you get rid of them? There's only one there's only one remaining vehicle to get rid of him. And that is the ultimate form of deplatforming. And that is the suggestion implicit in this Washington Post piece from Robert Kagan,

00:22:50.840 another chief neocon hack failure disaster saying well what happened to caesar they get a twofer

00:22:59.560 they get to imply that he's a dictator and they get to imply well the means appropriate to

00:23:05.740 eliminating dictators what was done to caesar would by implication be appropriate to get rid

00:23:11.520 of trump and that happens to be the only remaining vehicle left that they haven't tried

00:23:17.200 i want to go through this okay so the deep platforming on social media means you're

00:23:24.040 other you're out you're a non-person in today's world number one number two it's just not the

00:23:29.380 lawsuits for the in new york to bankrupt him and the ones of the criminal charges you i want to

00:23:36.060 your belief is they want him in prison and they want him to die in prison am i incorrect in that

00:23:42.480 that that is their goal in that aspect in that line of work their goal is to bankrupt him into

00:23:48.000 poverty and to put him in prison and have him die in prison sir well i mean i think some might have

00:23:55.640 that goal but the overarching thrust of what they're doing is to destroy him personally destroy him

00:24:05.300 politically destroy the energies associated with his victory and movement in 2016 and completely salt

00:24:14.540 the earth afterward that is their goal everything that they're doing falls within the scope of that

00:24:21.200 overarching goal from the de-platforming and social media to the legal attacks both civil and criminal

00:24:28.660 to whatever escalatory step might come next given the failure of the previous two approaches

00:24:36.940 i want to go to kagan now uh this piece because this piece kagan is a brilliant individual maybe

00:24:45.740 doesn't have wisdom and discernment but is very very smart he's the high priest he's one of the high

00:24:51.660 priest cast of the neoliberal neocons and his wife victoria newland is one of the high priestesses

00:24:58.640 right and she's the she's one of the brains behind color revolutions which they've done in this

00:25:03.500 country walk me through his piece specifically and how that leads you to the conclusion that they're

00:25:08.940 trying to lay the groundwork the intellectual and moral groundwork that this is the new caesar this

00:25:14.340 is caesarism and that uh and that brutus and these patriots are fully justified in doing what they

00:25:22.660 had to do to remove to save the republic to do what they had to do to caesar well you know the whole

00:25:29.540 context of the conversation is both alarming and ridiculous for a number of reasons first of all i might

00:25:36.640 have to push back a little bit on your assessment of kagan's intelligence i'd like to

00:25:42.580 repurpose a word that you use i like i like to repurpose a word that you use very effectively and accurately

00:25:49.880 um just a bit ago which is he's a nepo well there's if if murdoch is a nepo i'm talking about

00:25:58.760 rupert if murdoch is a nepo in your way of thinking then god knows what robert kagan is you know robert

00:26:07.800 kagan's father was a very eminent classicist at yale who's actually quite good and did a lot of good work

00:26:15.460 his his son um it's hard to imagine that robert kagan would have been anywhere had it not been for

00:26:22.660 his father and that's analogous to the situation that bill crystal found himself in also somebody

00:26:28.060 with an eminent and far superior father both intellectually and um i would say in terms of

00:26:35.340 his political orientation so robert kagan is very much of a nepo and of course he's married to victorian

00:26:42.680 newland the color revolution dominatrix within the deep state who's been you know enacting regime

00:26:51.040 change policies and you know i i don't want to take this analogy too far but you can only imagine

00:26:56.580 the romantic pairing between robert kagan and victoria newland they're saying okay honey

00:27:03.340 do i get to be nato tonight and you can be serbia um but it's it's it's it's really a pairing

00:27:12.740 that comes straight from the bowels of hell and you know i hope there's going to be accountability

00:27:19.820 someday because newland never stops you know we've covered her most recently um covering her

00:27:27.400 very likely involvement in the ouster and imprisonment and regime change operation in pakistan getting rid

00:27:34.280 of the trump aligned imran khan and so these are people who really embody you know deep state is now

00:27:42.300 such a prominent and ubiquitous feature of our political conversation it used to be a lesser known

00:27:49.120 phrase and even a lesser known concept but really kagan and his wife embody in their own family dynamic

00:27:59.220 and relationship what it means to be a deep state because kagan was technically a republican at least

00:28:06.460 for a while he was john mccain's top foreign policy advisor newland was on the other side and so

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00:29:41.360 of the way there we're going to talk a lot about um we got a lot of capital markets talk about uh bob

00:29:46.660 good was on here last night and broke the news that the trailing 12 month deficit which if you're in

00:29:51.360 investment banking you're helping companies finance or refinance or recapitalize one thing you do they all

00:29:56.400 have projections they have this happy talk and you know the i keep telling people the third year of

00:30:00.300 everybody's life when the when the uh you know the chart goes straight up is is fantastic that's when

00:30:05.480 everything on the company's hitting it's all great but as the asset test you always look at the

00:30:10.080 trailing 12 okay here what you're going to do it's going to be fantastic let's see what you've done

00:30:13.240 over the last year the trailing 12 not not a calendar year the trailing 12 months the deficit in the

00:30:18.640 trailing 12 is wait for it 2.5 trillion dollars we're going to add a trillion dollars to the face

00:30:25.560 amount of debt we passed 33 on 18 september we're going to pass 34 on 18 december uh we are now

00:30:33.980 running at 200 billion dollars deficit a month these are all numbers that we put up here on the

00:30:37.640 board before but uh congressman good i want to give a hat tip to him has drilled in because it's not

00:30:42.280 sustainable right now this fight and here's the fight they had the they had the top secret briefings

00:30:48.220 top secret briefing is supposed to scare everybody to death on ukraine right the big bad russians um so

00:30:53.140 they had the top secret briefing last night in the senate and afterwards zelinski was going to

00:30:56.820 join them for a zoom call for the pitch we got to have you got to throw it in there because the only

00:31:01.220 way they think they're going to cancel the christmas thing is they got to get money for ukraine for the

00:31:04.480 money laundering operation they almost had a fist fight they're in the cotton these guys they're

00:31:08.760 screaming at the generals they lied they're then saying if you don't do the border there's nothing

00:31:12.600 to talk about the thing breaks up in a fracas almost a fist fight the senate and they canceled

00:31:17.480 the call with zelinski zelinski's now saying i canceled they canceled the call with zelinski and now you got

00:31:22.440 the heads of the government over here they're talking to johnson the only way with all this

00:31:26.720 financial collapse we've got going on the deficits nobody wants to address they've only done seven of

00:31:31.140 the twelve this is the house seven of the twelve appropriations bills the only way that they will

00:31:35.120 stick around is because of money for ukraine they're talking about that we may have to go past the 14th

00:31:40.200 may go up to christmas because we got to get the ukraine money hey here's the amount of money we're

00:31:43.900 going to send to ukraine the number is zero okay we've done been there done that what we want is half of

00:31:49.900 our money back because the money used the oligarchs stole we want back and they should get in a room

00:31:54.360 immediately with the russians and if cy hearse is correct and who knows because he's playing always

00:31:58.920 playing both sides maybe plays more for the other side uh who knows you know the place looks like

00:32:05.660 dresden there's 75 to 100 000 dead ukrainians as mersheimer said it's time to let rational people

00:32:11.900 get in there and not have any more destruction for the ukrainians uh given all that darren beady uh i want

00:32:19.020 to connect dots here i want to go back this kagan thing and this is why the washington post puts this

00:32:25.020 up this kagan thing is clearly a predicate to say trump's the new caesar this is about caesarism

00:32:31.980 they're also tying trump they're trying to make trump hitler in 1932 that yes people are going to elect

00:32:37.580 him to office but then after you elect him to office he's going to be a dictator for life so it's hitler

00:32:42.040 132 and caesar and what do good moral people do and that's what they're trying to make the case

00:32:48.500 they're trying to they're trying to lay the predicate for the moral justification for his

00:32:53.780 assassination just like brutus and supposedly the good guys had to come to the defense of the republic

00:32:59.480 uh to take out caesar am i incorrect in reading it like that as you've laid it out

00:33:05.000 yes i think you know contextually that's definitely suggestion and you know look these people they're

00:33:12.900 color revolution architects from the very beginning and before revolver news um changed the conversation

00:33:19.460 january 6 we introduced this notion of color revolution back into the political vernacular

00:33:25.320 essentially that these same regime change professionals like victoria newland

00:33:31.100 who perceive trump to be an authoritarian have repurposed and deployed all of the regime change

00:33:39.100 tools they typically use against you know eastern european countries and other places throughout the

00:33:45.080 globe they've employed all of those tools against trump and unfortunately for them none of these tools

00:33:52.400 has worked yet and so as you check one after the other after the other after the list um unfortunately

00:33:59.700 only the most extreme options uh remain and so i think it's reasonable to have that as a concern i'm

00:34:07.620 not saying that you know this will happen or trump will be assassinated but i think that these people

00:34:13.080 will go to great lengths to take trump off of the political chessboard they want to get rid of him

00:34:18.980 they want to get rid of the trump movement they want to get rid of trump supporters and they want to salt

00:34:24.680 the earth one of the reasons they want to do this is they know what they've done that's what keeps

00:34:32.680 saying victorian they know they're very aware of what they've done benny thompson and they know what

00:34:37.400 they have to hide and they know how the criminal prosecutions against them are going to go

00:34:41.420 benny thompson they're in broad daylight we know what's going to happen because benny thompson

00:34:46.020 destroyed the tapes of the j6 interviews and sending a letter to laudermich of which kevin mccarthy

00:34:53.520 would not reason laudermich's on the news now kevin mccarthy would not let him come forward with

00:34:58.040 any disinformation talk to me about j6 right now j6 i think johnson ought to stay here as important as

00:35:04.560 even moving on biden and the in the crime family for impeachment has to be reconstitute j6 immediately

00:35:10.240 j6 is the key that picks the lock in this on the color revolution all of it not just the crimes that

00:35:17.420 were committed to lead up to it and then the cover-up it's sitting right there benny thompson

00:35:22.740 if why did he destroy the tapes they're telling you right there they're trying to get rid of they're

00:35:27.600 trying to get rid of the evidence right now darren beady right well look we've been on benny thompson's

00:35:33.080 case for a very very long time and i've discussed him extensively on this very show and long story short

00:35:39.480 he has been the democrat hatchet man representative of the department of homeland security and the

00:35:46.620 department of homeland security which was set up to basically prosecute the war on terror had to be

00:35:53.500 repurposed to prosecute the war against american patriots and american citizens so the linkage there

00:35:59.360 speaks for itself and as for these specific tapes of course um the regime and people like thompson will

00:36:06.480 do everything they can to make sure that the public doesn't see these tapes because even if it's not

00:36:11.760 a narrative shaping uh event you know we've seen tapes of police officers opening door the capital

00:36:20.300 officers opening doors and so forth so these aren't anything new but to see more and more tape

00:36:27.020 reaffirming the actual truth of january 6 as opposed to the false narrative shoved down our throats

00:36:34.440 every day for years now um is very very damaging to the regime because as you point out the stakes are

00:36:41.900 very high they've invested a tremendous amount into this fed's erection this false story of a 9-11 type

00:36:51.740 domestic terror event because that is the false narrative that they've been counting on in order to

00:36:57.980 justify the final transformation of the security apparatus as a kind of vast ruthless political

00:37:07.780 weapon to destroy the enemies of not only the biden regime but i would say underneath it all what i

00:37:15.520 would call the globalist american empire the regime behind uh everything that's going on

00:37:21.660 and it's been a very dangerous development for many many years

00:37:25.640 thank uh thank you for staying over i know you're incredibly busy uh i need everybody more than ever

00:37:32.280 you need to go to uh revolver it's a more sophisticated very sophisticated take on the news from one of the

00:37:37.880 smartest guys i've ever met uh in his team uh darren where do people by the way if you want to find out

00:37:43.540 more about victoria newland color revolution dominatrix you gotta go to revolver google it if you dare

00:37:54.520 no um dude i'm gonna tell you i ran i ran bright part i know about clickbait put that in your

00:37:59.640 headline today you'll get some clicks uh where do people where where do people go where do people go

00:38:04.580 to get to revolver brother revolver dot news revolver dot news we have a very provocative piece at the

00:38:11.300 top about a possible uh trump tucker ticket that's generating a lot of conversation so read that

00:38:17.660 read our piece on victoria newland our multiple pieces on victoria newland get caught up we're at

00:38:24.320 the cutting edge of what's going on every day in the news the most important things revolver dot news

00:38:30.220 i'm on twitter at darren jb and our account is white hot as always on getter at revolver news

00:38:38.840 it's fantastic thanks for sticking around darren to realize you're busy today thanks for doing this

00:38:44.340 uh very important piece on this kagan this guy i can break down by the way um that i did tucker

00:38:49.600 show that day it's fantastic we got some other announcements about tucker uh probably be making

00:38:54.340 by the end of the week um and that piece that darren's got up is amazing you got to read it uh let

00:38:59.520 me go i got bring in brat um brat uh give me your assessment of of the atlantic of everything you've

00:39:06.200 seen the cold open of all this that trump is dictator trump is caesar even in the uh in the

00:39:10.960 washington post i think they they did the thing of caesar and trump right they couldn't i mean

00:39:15.760 it was this was not subtle this was a kagan's you know fathers with a great classicist kagan i think

00:39:22.060 even though he's a nepo he's he's a quite brilliant guy he knows what he knows what he's doing and he

00:39:26.840 knows how to do it dave brat your thoughts yeah well they uh they're well coordinated and and one of

00:39:33.380 the most uh problematic uh parts for me is seeing these uh tim alberta books uh come out uh hitting

00:39:41.760 uh right before an election uh president trump uh simultaneously and so tim alberta claims and he's

00:39:50.040 off with the morning mika and he's on with james carville uh the human meat slicer uh etc and he says

00:39:58.620 i'm i'm an innocent uh early christian early church christian and all we should be concerned

00:40:04.360 about is our prayer life holiness getting to heaven uh sharing the faith if that's the case tim

00:40:10.420 why are you on tv national tv the early church didn't do that you're you're saying you want to

00:40:15.720 be this simple uh very holy person and you're sitting next to james carville who's using the lord's

00:40:21.960 name in vain every other sentence uh and you only pay attention to evangelicals you take your full

00:40:28.220 fury out for some reason on evangelical christians and you're interested in the theoretical possibilities

00:40:33.860 of dictatorship why don't you take your full fury out on the communists and fascists of the last

00:40:38.720 century who still exist who killed a hundred million human beings created in in the image of god

00:40:45.660 and so again the the timing is is just incredible uh to have a fellow christian taking aim and hitting

00:40:53.300 christians aiming at evangelicals naming every sin and doing it in the name of of an innocent early

00:41:01.540 church and he paints a nice picture of how innocent and holy the early church was and it was it is a

00:41:07.760 model to aim at uh but then you shouldn't be sitting on the set of msnbc uh with a bunch of guys who gut

00:41:14.660 people for a living and then making money off of books and using jesus as the archetype uh for that

00:41:21.640 political type of execution and so yeah they're well coordinated uh darren darren's piece with the

00:41:28.780 international actors was was just brilliant uh but but tim alberta james carville came out uh and and

00:41:36.060 just to put a little more context both of them together in carville especially in the cold open i mean

00:41:42.300 he's putting down a hundred million american people right he's putting you down he's putting

00:41:47.500 down evangelicals uh it's the evangelicals by the way who delivered right i the frozen chosen right i'm

00:41:54.400 amongst the frozen chosen we deliver but he but he but he did yeah but gave them back to society

00:41:59.100 yeah but he doesn't free yeah but they they don't want those guys voting that's what this is about

00:42:04.300 this about this is about once you hang on for a second we're actually gonna we're actually gonna play

00:42:09.000 that so we get into details of it we're gonna do that in in the next uh we're gonna go to break

00:42:12.700 here we're getting that set up to play for your commentary brad's gonna be with us uh through the

00:42:17.380 end of the show as our as our uh as our co he was able to drop by today so it's easier to plug him in

00:42:22.700 as a co-host and to plug him in as a guest so he's the co-host here for the next hour and a half

00:42:27.280 brad you hang on because we got economics talk about too uh my t up earlier about the 2.5 trade i'm

00:42:33.020 getting at brad about what good told us yesterday 200 billion dollars a month in deficit that means

00:42:37.800 you're going to add another trillion dollars every five months or more because now you're in this law

00:42:42.300 of large numbers that's why you need to go to birch gold right now birchgold.com slash bannon

00:42:47.680 you can get the free end of the dollar empire you got to do that but more importantly now i think you

00:42:52.700 need to talk to phil patrick and the team and just have them walk you through the analysis of the

00:42:56.600 converging factors of what's driving uh gold right now as a hedge remember gold as a hedge against times

00:43:03.140 of turbulence it's only been a hedge for 5 000 years and i think we're in a fourth turning i

00:43:08.000 think would you guys agree with that there's a time of turbulence like ecclesiastes to every season

00:43:13.100 there is a purpose you know what our purpose is in the season to save the american republic and uh

00:43:19.860 i think this audience is doing a pretty good job of it long odds get a warpath coffee too get your

00:43:25.140 coffee get jacked up like we are here in the war room short break dave bratt next

00:43:29.100 there's a lot to be nervous about out there open social media or turn on the news and all you see

00:43:35.140 is crime and societal decay a lot of people just run out and buy a gun and then it sits in a safe

00:43:41.600 there's ever an emergency they're not going to be prepared and run the risk of hurting themselves

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00:44:56.380 louisiana the speaker of the house i read today he wrote a forward in a book that conscribes to

00:45:02.040 conspiracy theories and homophobic insults i thought mike mike johnson wrote the forward to the bible

00:45:07.700 do you think mike johnson can hold his party together now that he has taken the mantle

00:45:15.720 well first of all i don't think he can hold his party together second of all you're exactly right

00:45:21.320 mike johnson and what he believes is one of the greatest threats we have today to the united states

00:45:27.820 when i promise you i know these people you're talking about christian nationalism that's absolutely

00:45:35.220 talking about this this is a this is a a bigger threat than al-qaeda up to this country they and

00:45:41.900 let me tell you something they're speaking of the house they got probably at least two supreme court

00:45:47.360 justices maybe more right don't kid yourself and people in the press have no idea who this guy is

00:45:55.400 how he was formed what the threat is and this is a fundamental threat to the united states it is a

00:46:03.820 fundamental they don't believe in a constitution they'll tell you that white johnson himself says

00:46:09.300 what is democracy but but two wolves and a lamb having lunch that's what they really really really

00:46:14.960 believe and to say oh come on man it's just no no they they believe that and they're coming and

00:46:22.360 they've been doing it forever they're funded they're funded they're relentless and you know

00:46:29.360 they probably won't win for a while but they might and if they do it's you blow the whole country blows

00:46:35.260 the gas you just have to look at that painting i think it's a kincaid painting that a lot of them

00:46:39.040 like where jesus is handing the constitution thomas jefferson i mean if you could look at that and go

00:46:46.320 that's the way it probably happened i know it that wasn't a photo that is no i think you know

00:46:54.180 what you're sort of what you're sort of getting at here is christian nationalism right i read the i

00:46:58.460 haven't read the book yet but i read the piece that you put out in the atlantic about it that ended with

00:47:02.580 the pastor who took over for your father who was trying to fight the takeover of trump in the in

00:47:08.580 the church um you asked him what's happened to the evangelicals in america and he said they love

00:47:13.460 america too much it's like they're is that what we're dealing with here is is this what what this

00:47:18.020 what the evangel or at least for some evangelicals that are supporting trump morphed into christian

00:47:22.800 nationalism i think so and listen christian nationalism is is a loaded term and it means

00:47:27.900 different things to different people so i think clarifying in this context what the definition is

00:47:33.440 is helpful at the end of the day if you are a follower of jesus christ you are called to a

00:47:38.880 citizenship in heaven and you are called to be a part of the kingdom of god and we are warned as

00:47:45.180 christians throughout scripture old testament and new testament prayers and epistles all the way through

00:47:50.440 it's not ambiguous that your identity is rooted in heaven your identity is rooted in following jesus

00:47:57.680 unfortunately i think this love of country which can be healthy to a point over realized among some of

00:48:06.700 these evangelical christians has sort of merged two kingdoms into one and has created this this belief

00:48:13.800 that somehow if america falls then god himself is defeated when again as christians we believe that

00:48:20.220 jesus triumphed over the grave so there is no such thing as defeat but when you begin to think of america

00:48:26.300 as almost this covenant nation that that that god has ordained us god has blessed us and you are fighting

00:48:32.820 fighting for god by fighting for america that is christian nationalism and that is what has infected

00:48:38.240 much of the church today boy that's a recruiting video right there um dave bratt your your thoughts

00:48:47.740 there's more damage done in the world by pastor's sons uh than uh than the opposition and tim alberta is

00:48:54.780 a great example of a of a pastor's son your thoughts yeah yeah well my thoughts are always uh my own and

00:49:01.500 these aren't intended to inflict pain uh brother alberta is so far off track and just wrong on

00:49:07.880 everything he says and wrong in the way he says it uh the old testament uh all 39 books were all about

00:49:15.340 the jews getting to heaven i don't think so uh not really at all the exodus is the greatest event the

00:49:21.900 old testament that's completely uh political in nature uh then you go through all the kings uh it is a

00:49:29.940 political uh book through and through and through political but god is the true sovereign and he

00:49:36.400 missed a little point that we did have a theocracy uh with hebrew people in the old testament then with

00:49:42.480 the new testament you get the working out of of history in the judeo-christian west and we

00:49:48.520 constructed this thing called you know 18th century liberalism james madison who went to princeton

00:49:54.220 seminary and stuck around and studied hebrew wrote our constitution uh separated powers so that

00:50:00.920 everyone could have liberty in this country that's what came out of uh the evangelical movement uh the

00:50:06.700 protestant christians the catholic christians that's what we produced a beautiful body of work and

00:50:11.920 we were so principled i went to princeton seminary we founded the protestants john harvard from oxford

00:50:17.600 founded uh harvard uh christians founded every school roughly in the country yale princeton all the

00:50:23.780 republics michigan go read the solar university by marston and then we gave them away we gave the

00:50:28.880 universities back to secular society on a gentleman's handshake that hey you guys at least study

00:50:33.640 aristotle okay let's do you know ethics the jews and the muslims and the christians all agreed on

00:50:38.920 aristotle at 1300 right so that was a working model and now the problem and here's alberta's problem

00:50:44.860 the left now is running seven trillion dollar budgets they want to control every aspect of your life they

00:50:50.640 want to run kindergartens with pronouns that's the new deal this is not liberty anymore we gave away

00:50:57.000 the institutions because we did not want to force or coerce our faith on others that's the historical

00:51:03.160 track record of the judeo-christian mind the left uh the marxists have no uh authenticity no honesty

00:51:11.280 and no ethical system which to share at all they want power and that's what they're doing they're grabbing

00:51:16.140 power and they don't and they're putting down the evangelicals in order to seize power

00:51:20.500 hang on we're gonna take a short 90 second break a couple things maybe it's time for us to reverse

00:51:27.020 that if you saw the harvard president uh basically lie i think she perjured herself because it was under

00:51:33.620 oath to elise stefanik about you know what free speech was and what she knew about it she didn't know

00:51:38.080 terms like intifada uh it was just it was disgusting you've seen what these uh what's happened to these

00:51:44.420 universities um to me dave i think we ought to take them back made a deal with the secularists it

00:51:51.300 didn't work out time now to step in and take them back they can't get any worse if you want to get

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