Stephen K. Bannon and Alex Blumberg join me in the War Room to discuss President Trump's trip to Ukraine, the need for $60 billion to support the fight against Russia, and how the globalists are playing into their hands.
00:00:00.000President looking at this visit different, as we pointed out earlier this morning, from the previous, where there was unilateral support for President Zelensky and his effort in the fight against Russia.
00:00:10.300And the president, our president, has some convincing to do this time.
00:00:14.020You know, Willie, I think you're exactly right.
00:00:15.440And what's most striking here, perhaps, is what a difference a year makes.
00:00:18.120Remember, it was this month, one year ago, that President Zelensky came to the U.S., received multiple standing ovations, was welcomed with open arms as he spoke to a joint session of Congress this time around.
00:00:32.000And as Ali just detailed here, the president of Ukraine is really being thrust into the middle of what is a very bitter domestic political battle.
00:00:40.960The president has repeatedly sort of amped up the urgency for Congress to act right now, calling for $106 billion in total, which would include about $60 billion to support Ukraine militarily as they head into the critical winter months here.
00:00:56.900I was speaking to the National Security Advisor spokesperson, John Kirby, a short time ago, who said right now that Russia is going to be amping up its efforts as the ground hardens there in the winter.
00:01:08.440They have put out some declassified information overnight that the White House shared with me and others, basically saying that there has been progress made.
00:01:16.480But they are facing a real uphill climb because of the stalled counteroffensive by the Ukrainians in that region.
00:01:23.680And frankly, back at home, the Republicans saying, hey, we agree we would like to see more money to Ukraine, but we have to focus on national security here at the U.S.-Mexico border first.
00:01:33.860The president, in his words, said he is open to, quote, significant compromises on that issue.
00:01:38.980But what he has seen to this point, Willie, he is described as draconian.
00:01:43.780The president has been engaged on all of this, but he is also facing some real political pressure from some of his allies as well.
00:01:51.100The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, among others, as NBC News was first to report, basically, you know, pushing back on the president's willingness to negotiate on the issue of border policies.
00:02:01.000He's afraid that the president might go too far, give too much away to the Republicans here.
00:02:05.220The bottom line is, he said this has to happen by the end of the year.
00:02:08.140But as the top Senate Republican negotiator, Jim Lankford, James Lankford of Oklahoma, has said it's not going to happen this week.
00:02:15.100And very likely this doesn't happen until January.
00:02:17.760The White House has made clear they're running out of time and running out of money right now.
00:02:23.500This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:02:27.180Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
00:02:33.600Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:02:37.860The people have had a belly full of it.
00:09:35.340How about we're going to hit $34 trillion here sometime, you know, the middle of next week and the end of next week before Christmas, right?
00:09:42.860Before we commemorate the baby Jesus, you're going to hit $34 trillion.
00:10:22.740As soon as you make sure you're turning over Taiwan and you get all the top 400 guys going to put American pension fund money in my country to come here and kowtow to me and raise their champagne glasses.
00:11:37.220Because in this show, we have said from the run up to this war and from the first day of the war, this was such a tragic mistake.
00:11:44.400And the people they're going to pay for it were the Ukrainian people in their blood and the American people, the average guy, the average guy in America in their treasure and the average schmo in Ukraine with their blood.
00:12:55.220When we're having this huge debate about can we even finance what we got because we can't?
00:13:00.040And you've got an invasion on the southern border of the nine million illegal alien invaders.
00:13:05.760You heard the guys yesterday, the black activists from Chicago, the streets of Chicago, they're being destroyed.
00:13:11.980The streets of New York, they're being destroyed.
00:13:14.260The people in this country that have the least resources and the least ability to take that kind of blow are being destroyed.
00:13:19.140And we've got Zelensky over here in the halls of Congress going around being fetted by Mitch McConnell and that crowd of Republicans who could very simply say, no, this is not happening.
00:13:29.140And asking for $60 billion, $60 billion that we don't have.
00:16:23.100Put all of his eggs and he's down 30, 35 points in most polling.
00:16:27.020So, Molly, your new piece of Vanity Fair is titled, Donald Trump's Dictator Promise is No Joke.
00:16:32.040In it, Molly writes, quote, over the past week, Donald Trump promised to be a dictator on two different occasions.
00:16:37.540Sadly, that's not a completely unexpected sentence to write, given that he and his allies have not been shy about planning an authoritarian second term.
00:16:45.360From installing MAGA loyalists throughout the government to using the Department of Justice to target political enemies.
00:16:51.460Fox News host, Fox News host Sean Hannity, who first blamed the media for focusing on a scary second term agenda, asked under no circumstances.
00:17:01.100You would never abuse power as retribution against anybody, Trump responded, quote, except for day one, end quote.
00:17:08.420We find ourselves, Molly writes, at a precipice with Trump making his autocratic tendencies crystal clear.
00:17:14.260The news media needs to take him literally and seriously, especially as his anti-democratic impulses have infected the rest of the party.
00:17:22.440Republicans have purged those in their ranks who have sided with democracy over Trump, like Liz Cheney, who's now sounding the alarms while elevating an election denier like Mike Johnson to Speaker of the House.
00:17:33.840It is time for the media to warn voters of the stakes of this election, one of which is whether there will still be democratic elections.
00:17:41.400So something we've been focused on for the last several weeks here on this show, the Atlantic has had its series of pieces saying, hey, this is what a second term would look like.
00:17:51.180And I do think most people understand that in 2016 he couldn't do all the things he was claiming he was going to do.
00:17:58.220He's just being brash. He's being Donald Trump for The Apprentice. We like that he's going to shake things up.
00:18:02.300Now he's got a record to run on and now he's on the record promising it will be worse from his own lips.
00:18:09.380Yeah. And he has institutional backing now. Right. He has the Heritage Foundation saying they're going to fire all government employees, you know, not all government employees, but they're going to try to remake the, you know, the government in in ways that we hadn't even sort of dreamed of.
00:18:25.380The thing I'm so struck by is it feels like the mainstream media is addicted to giving Trump the benefit of the doubt.
00:18:31.380Right. We saw in 2016 that a lot of the stuff he wanted to do, the autocratic stuff, he just couldn't do because he wasn't able to.
00:18:40.600Right. He didn't understand how government worked this time.
00:18:44.040He's taken four years off and he's really got allies that are very smart and know how government works.
00:18:49.840And you see his plans. I mean, the stuff they're saying already, this is the stuff they're advertising is really scary.
00:18:57.440So imagine what they're not advertising.
00:19:02.060OK, welcome back. That's the complete meltdown.
00:19:04.940He does have a record to run on. You're absolutely correct.
00:19:08.020And we'll have an up or down vote on that.
00:19:09.840This current debacle versus Trump's four years of peace and prosperity, maybe one interrupted by a CCP bioweapon to try to take him out and his government out.
00:19:24.120And, yes, they're not going to fire. They're going to deconstruct the administrative state.
00:19:28.160It's quite sophisticated. It's very well thought through. And a lot of people are working on it and it's going to happen.
00:19:33.080Let's let's I want to return to what's what's your alternative?
00:19:39.680Here's your alternative. A country that's broke, a country's got thirty four trillion now is going to have another two trillion dollars this coming year because of McConnell and these guys creating to to Biden in the in the essentially traders up on Capitol Hill that don't mind this Republican spending to keep going on this debt.
00:19:59.040They're spending their time today with all the issues we've got going on.
00:20:03.080They're spending their time on Zelensky and his crew of oligarchs that are grifting when all of Europe knows the papers and all the analysis we do.
00:20:12.260They know it's over. I bring in Harnwell from from from from Rome and think about the only discussion they passed H.R.2.
00:20:21.240I want you to embrace this. I want this to to be burned into your soul.
00:20:25.900The only way that the Democrats, the Biden would even discuss enforcing the law, what she said was to the crony.
00:20:36.800The only way they would even consider enforcing the law.
00:20:39.720Was it to because we said no on the money to Ukraine. Think about that for a second.
00:20:46.360That's how little respect they have for this country. That's how little respect they have for the sovereignty of this country.
00:20:51.780That's how little respect they have for the citizens of this country.
00:21:07.060It's those bio labs. The sketch when we get in there is to get down to the receipts in Ukraine.
00:21:11.300Ukraine. I'm telling you, the puss that's going to come out there is going to be ugly.
00:21:16.520And we're going to get to the bottom of all of it.
00:21:19.220And maybe Zelensky one day is in The Hague or maybe he's in the U.S. court somewhere about the money he stole and the money the people were running, which is an open secret.
00:21:26.000The Time magazine article, these reporters are sitting there talking to government officials.
00:21:29.280This is an open secret. They're talking about it.
00:21:32.500Ben Harnwell, your thoughts and analysis were, you know, were Europe sitting there?
00:21:36.480They had a war game in what Paris, one of the ancient institutions set up, I think, by Napoleon.
00:21:42.060They had a war game with all the elites came over a couple of weeks ago.
00:22:01.600Well, let's start off with the École Militaire, the 300-year-old French Academy, which, as you say, Napoleon himself studied warfare there.
00:22:10.440They had this conference over the weekend and one Ukrainian government councillor said this, right?
00:22:19.120If you're offended by hard language, put your hands over your ears now.
00:22:53.700Steve, there's a big difference this time.
00:22:55.320This is his third visit to D.C. since the war started.
00:22:59.140There's a big difference on this third visit.
00:23:01.400You might remember a couple of months ago on his last visit, the White House made certain hints in the press that they didn't really want Zelensky there.
00:23:10.820And the reason for that was because the White House at that point still thought it had a political argument that it could win, that Zelensky was toxic for the American public.
00:23:22.920Therefore, it would be easier for the Democrats, for the administration to win this argument without Zelensky's presence.
00:23:30.640What has changed between then and now when he's very much being invited by the Democrat regime?
00:23:39.120Well, it's because, as this quote just illustrates, they know this war is lost.
00:23:47.600Why do they want Zelensky here for a last push when they know there's no more money coming?
00:23:52.380Because they want the Republican Party to take all the incoming from the responsibility for the loss of this war.
00:24:01.180Now, let's be reasonable. Let's be honest, which is what we are all the time on the war room.
00:24:07.860There are people in the United States, as there are in the rest of the world, that want Ukraine to win.
00:24:12.260I'm not just talking about this out-of-touch political class.
00:24:15.380In the public, voters, taxpayers, there are people that think we should be paying more money in the United States, in Europe, to help Zelensky.
00:24:22.580I think the Democrats have massively overestimated that proportion, because over half the country now thinks that America is giving too much money to Ukraine.
00:24:34.040But there is a significant lump there.
00:24:35.760So what the Democrats are trying to do is to salvage every last vote from the implosion that there's going to be when Ukraine either surrenders or takes a ceasefire on Russia's terms.
00:24:47.500And they're trying to pin this responsibility on the Republicans and say, look, we were there, we were in this for the long haul, but, you know, the Republicans cut it off.
00:24:56.140I actually think, as I say, that they've underestimated that, and there's going to be a lot of gratitude to the Republicans for stopping this.
00:25:04.060But, hey, if I were an advisor to the Democrats, I would say, basically, at this point, that's the best thing you can do.
00:25:11.000To pin the blame and the responsibility for the loss of this war on the Republicans.
00:25:18.640Now, there's just something else I would quickly like to mention here, because the backdrop, OK, to Ukraine, in Ukraine, and this visit, is that, and we've been covering this for a couple of weeks now, there's increasing dissension.
00:25:35.160Fissures opening up in the Ukrainian political establishment against Zelensky.
00:25:40.100Now, there is an article here, and very revealing, I think, here, if I just read this quote directly.
00:25:47.840It says that Zelensky's changing status on the world stage, as Western countries and important segments of the Ukrainian establishment look for an exit strategy,
00:25:56.400Zelensky is no longer seen as an asset, but as a liability.
00:26:00.560And that's in Unheard, which is, again, like the daily beast I was referring to earlier.
00:26:05.180These aren't sort of populist nationalist organizations.
00:26:53.020No, the insult here is that he comes, and he actually said that the America First movement, that people don't want to give $60 billion, are going to empower Putin.
00:27:05.840We support the Russian people like we support Lao Beijing and the Chinese people because the Russian people and the Chinese people, not their governments, not the criminals in Beijing, the CCP, and certainly not the KGB, which is kind of the repository of the Bolsheviks and Stalin and that crowd, right?
00:27:26.860The U.S. government and the intelligence services kept all those guys in business, okay, and kept all the overarm Stalin at the end of World War II, overarmed him in the last two years.
00:29:56.980Okay, we've asked Congressman Clyde, a friend of the show, to drop by here because he's a former Navy commander and a guy I think the world of, although we don't agree on everything, I think the world of discernment and judgment.
00:30:12.620What in the hell is going on over there?
00:30:29.460But more importantly, I think here's what the audience is having a tough time coming to grips with.
00:30:33.020Because, you know, the audience of War Room is a working class, middle class audience that hits it every day, loves their country, supports you guys, MAGA, America First, and President Trump is the Trump movement.
00:30:43.200They can't get their head around the fact that given all these multiple crises of the invasion of the southern border, this calamity, we're adding another trillion dollars in 90 days from September 18th to December 18th, two and a half trillion dollar deficits, that the 16th or the 19th of January is right upon us.
00:31:00.360You guys are leaving on Friday for three weeks.
00:32:01.980And so those other four have yet to be, you know.
00:32:04.600And, you know, one of the most important ones is CJS, Commerce Justice Science, because that is dealing with the Department of Justice or the Department of Injustice, you know, I think which is a better way to describe them.
00:33:08.080They were not authorized during, guess what, a Democrat administration.
00:33:11.880When Obama was the president, Pelosi was the speaker of the House.
00:33:15.200You had Chuck Schumer, the leader in the Senate, and they had a supermajority in the Senate at the time.
00:33:20.760And they did not reauthorize the Department of Justice.
00:33:23.900So my amendment is simply taking them back to their last level of authorization, which would cut $3 billion out of their budget, which is appropriate.
00:33:48.480You know, the thing is that the National Defense Authorization Act, so many of the good things that we put in it when we passed it in the House got stripped out of it.
00:34:11.260Well, it did go to the Senate, but when it got conferenced with the Senate, a lot of that got stripped out, and when there's not agreement at the lower level, then it gets kicked up to the next level, like to the chairman level, and then if there's no agreement there, it gets kicked up to what's called the four corners.
00:34:25.180And the four corners are the minority leader and majority leader in the Senate, the speaker, and the minority leader in the House.
00:34:32.480And what I found out today is it takes three votes of those four people to actually do anything on the conference.
00:34:41.260Well, that means that the speaker of the House and the minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, have the same authority in that four corners.
00:35:05.060And when you have things like transgender surgeries that are still – in this NDAA, it still permits transgender surgeries in the military, and that is 100 percent wrong.
00:35:47.760I mean this is a bill that does not go nearly far enough because before our military gets – ever gets destroyed from the outside, it will be destroyed from the inside first.
00:36:18.080I think people's heads are blowing up because so many things that were priorities – and we understand the Senate's corrupt under McConnell, the Republicans.
00:36:25.740Just because they put it back in there, it seems like the House comes back and accepts it.
00:37:45.840But the intelligence community will use fear as a motivator, and they will try and scare the living daylights out of you, and I'm not there.
00:38:40.040Well, you know, and I think a picture is worth a thousand words, and you can see Zelensky coming over here.
00:38:45.700He doesn't even have enough respect for this country and for our House and for our Senate to come here in a coat and tie.
00:38:52.360I mean, you know, we had Fetterman's issue, and the Senate finally figured out that that wasn't a good idea to allow him to come in gym shorts and a hoodie, that he had to actually, you know, we have a dress code.
00:39:03.460You're saying if you're coming for money, you ought to dress up like you're asking for it.
00:39:07.760Well, it shows you the level of respect, you know, that a person has.
00:39:10.940Do you think he lacks respect to the United States?
00:39:12.500Yes, I think he absolutely lacks respect for the United States.
00:39:15.440He's trying to put it now in America First.
00:39:18.020He says, hey, if we don't get the money, if Putin wins, the Republicans in the America First movement have empowered Putin.
00:39:40.920And so we have to take care of our borders first before there's one solitary dime.
00:39:46.980Does it not offend the people in your district that the only time that the Democrats came up – and the uniparty Republicans brought up the southern border was to hold it hostage to the $60 million to $80 million for Ukraine?
00:39:58.000To get that, they would finally have a conversation, and then it was just bells and whistles.
00:40:02.060They weren't prepared to do anything really – I mean they would hold the sovereignty of this country and our citizens to get money to Ukraine.
00:40:12.240I think it should offend every American citizen.
00:40:14.800I mean we should not be funding Ukraine not one dime, okay, until our southern border is completely secure.
00:40:24.120There are metrics in place to say, yes, we have stopped the illegal immigration coming across our border.
00:40:30.040We have stopped the terrorists that are coming across our border, and we know there are folks on the terrorist watch list that have come across, 300 of them since Biden has been in office.
00:40:38.780And 1.8 million that we don't even know who they are, but we know that they were there, okay?
00:40:44.220The gotaways that the Border Patrol talks about.
00:40:47.180But we don't know why they're coming, who they are, what their motivation is, what they're bringing with them.
00:40:52.280In the conference this morning, the people realize that their constituents are not thrilled with them leaving on the 15th and going home.
00:40:59.580Is there any sense that people feel a sense of urgency that they don't?
00:41:09.180You know, I think we should stay here and get the job done, but the appropriations process, but that's why the CR until after, you know, until the 19th and the 2nd of February.
00:41:23.480So you get back on the 9th, you have 10 days.
00:41:28.480Is there going to be a magic solution?
00:41:29.840Are people here working on what alternatives are going to be?
00:41:32.260Is there still this debate over the McCarthy handshake or the 1%?
00:41:36.700We hear that Johnson, the Speaker, is thinking of a one-year CR because it gets a 1% cut across the border, which is nothing compared to the calamity we have now.
00:41:47.080That might have been of interest years ago, but now it's virtually irrelevant.
00:41:51.580Well, actually, a one-year CR would be considered by the Budget Office as an appropriation, okay?
00:41:57.700You wouldn't get the 1% cut then on a one-year CR, okay?
00:42:01.320But you would get lower levels on, you know, the FRA did have levels for both defense spending and non-defense spending, and it would actually be about a $40 billion cut in non-defense spending, all right, which is…
00:42:45.300So this discussion about $40 billion is virtually irrelevant.
00:42:50.500Well, that's what it has – somebody has to stand up there and say, okay, I know this is going to upset everybody, and you can't deal with Social Security and Medicare because that's not the problem.
00:42:59.340The problem is the discretionary spending, and I hate to be brutally frank, but tax increases on the super wealthy.
00:43:05.100At some point, you're going to have to tell the progressive Democrat left who fund all this madness that we're going to come and take your money.
00:43:11.700This is – I know that Grover Norcross and these guys and all the donors that are all over, our heads are going to blow up.
00:43:20.040But before you talk about entitlements, you're going to have to show the nation that you can do both of those, that you can cut discretionary spending on non-defense and defense, and that you can raise taxes for the super wealthy, not for the middle class or the working people.
00:46:07.900I would not say now is a good time to think about prepping, but hey, lead story in the Washington Post today about the CCP looking at the grid of the United States,
00:46:16.560the electrical grid, and trying to think about how on a cyber basis they can take it down.
00:46:22.260Maybe it's time for you to think about how you prepare for all of that.
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00:48:40.420And it passed the floor in the House too.
00:48:42.980So it's in the bill, in the Defense Appropriations Bill, not the NDAA, but the Defense Appropriations Bill, which is why it's so important that we need to get these.
00:48:52.760So that has to be then conferenced in the Senate so that we can actually get the president to sign the Defense Appropriations Bill.
00:49:00.500By the way, as a grandson, my great-grandfather was – although I was born in Virginia, he was with the 1st Maine Cavalry, Sergeant Charles Jack.
00:49:07.780And so as a great-grandson of a union non-commissioned officer, I fully support the reconciliation statute I should keep.
00:49:15.300It's been a monument that people have revered for over 100 years to bring our country together.
00:49:24.580And Secretary Webb, Navy Secretary, when the North Vietnamese and South Vietnamese, when they came over here after – it was a few years back.
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