Bannon's War Room - Episode 3244： Building The New Media; The Rot Of The Institutions

00:00:00.060 Something big is coming. You can probably feel it. Everybody can feel it.

00:00:04.800 The next 12 months is going to be a wild time, probably like nothing any of us has ever seen.

00:00:10.080 An economic meltdown, an unresolvable presidential race, unprecedented global migration,

00:00:16.020 entire populations moving from continent to continent, metastasizing foreign wars, chaos.

00:00:22.160 Suddenly, everything seems at stake, control of the world and of your soul.

00:00:27.280 How are you going to respond to all of this?

00:00:29.040 The first step is knowing what's actually happening. That's not easy.

00:00:33.460 Who's an ally? Who's an enemy? You can't always tell.

00:00:36.680 What's true and what's a lie? Sometimes it's hard to know.

00:00:40.580 There's so much deception. Big media companies won't help.

00:00:44.360 Their job is to manipulate you. The government? Please.

00:00:47.900 When was the last time you believed a word they said? Probably before COVID.

00:00:52.320 We've been thinking a lot about all of this for the past eight months.

00:00:55.360 We've traveled to various countries around the world to see what America looks like from far away.

00:01:00.780 Sometimes distance gives you perspective.

00:01:03.280 We've decided that we need something new, something relentlessly honest that the corporate gatekeepers can't touch.

00:01:09.180 So we built a company called Tucker Carlson Network.

00:01:12.440 We'll be rolling it out starting now.

00:01:14.460 You may have already seen some of our content on X.

00:01:17.100 Expect a lot more of that.

00:01:19.260 Interviews, documentaries, analysis, facts, and honesty every day.

00:01:24.980 We've got a lot of good people working on this, and we think it's going to make a difference.

00:01:28.240 You can head to tuckercarlson.com to learn more.

00:01:30.880 We hope you will. Thanks.

00:01:32.260 We're driving to see you join us on.

00:02:00.300 Believe me when I tell you.

00:02:01.440 Wait, wait, wait. I should be boycotting Bud Light.

00:02:03.320 Fantastic job. Thank you.

00:02:04.720 That was amazing.

00:02:11.060 Okay, it's Wednesday, 13 December in the year of our Lord, 2023.

00:02:15.360 We're here for the second hour of the morning edition of the Word.

00:02:17.860 I want to thank everybody.

00:02:19.220 Particularly want to thank Tucker Carlson.

00:02:21.100 Tucker, I think a lot of people have been waiting for this for a long time.

00:02:24.660 Even before you decided to leave Fox, I think a lot of people, your friends and colleagues, say,

00:02:29.620 why don't you just go do it yourself?

00:02:31.640 It's better than where you are.

00:02:33.360 Talk to us about what this is, what the rollout is, how do people participate,

00:02:37.480 and quite frankly, why did you decide to do it, given the fact that you could do anything,

00:02:42.580 including just kick your feet up and go fly fishing out in Montana?

00:02:45.120 Well, not to be pedantic, first of all, thank you for having me.

00:02:50.920 I didn't decide to leave Fox.

00:02:53.880 Actually, it just shows you that we shouldn't really be in control of our own lives,

00:02:58.080 not that we are anyway.

00:02:59.380 We're not.

00:03:00.680 But it's a good thing, because I would have stayed forever.

00:03:04.100 You know, you don't move unless prodded, or at least speaking for myself,

00:03:08.980 just because you get caught up in the day-to-day,

00:03:11.340 and doing a new thing is time-consuming and weird and kind of scary,

00:03:16.080 and so I probably never would have done it.

00:03:18.520 But thankfully, it was done for me.

00:03:20.420 So, well, the answer is, yeah, I guess I can sit around.

00:03:25.760 I've got a couple books I want to write that no one would ever read,

00:03:28.200 but I want to write anyway.

00:03:29.040 But I thought, you know, I should do what I've done my whole life.

00:03:34.480 It's the only thing I have done, is work in the news business.

00:03:37.600 And this coming year, I think, is a bigger deal than maybe most people appreciate,

00:03:43.960 and I think that most news coverage is designed to keep you from appreciating it.

00:03:47.940 There is a reset underway.

00:03:49.820 I know it's the topic of your show every day, and so people who watch this know it,

00:03:53.660 but I don't think most people do.

00:03:54.720 There's a reset globally that will change the way that we live

00:03:58.860 and completely change the world that our grandchildren inhabit.

00:04:02.260 And so I wanted to have a voice in the middle of that,

00:04:05.220 and I don't flatter myself and think I'm indispensable in any sense.

00:04:07.980 I'm certainly not indispensable.

00:04:09.700 But we don't have too many outlets for honesty anymore

00:04:14.320 that doesn't have some weird agenda.

00:04:16.580 I mean, as I get older, I'm more convinced that presenting any set of facts

00:04:21.040 or the news with an agenda blinds you to what's actually going on.

00:04:24.320 First of all, it's inherently dishonest because it's propaganda by definition.

00:04:27.360 But moreover, it makes you incurious.

00:04:29.740 If you're so goal-oriented, I need to convince my audience of whatever.

00:04:33.160 This is a pandemic of being vaccinated or whatever it is that you want to tell people.

00:04:37.500 If you're solely focused on that, you sort of miss all the stuff that's going on around you,

00:04:42.560 and there's just so much.

00:04:43.320 So we wanted to create an eyes-open, honest news channel outlet platform,

00:04:50.120 and we wanted to do it without fear of being shut down.

00:04:54.160 And one of the main ways you're shut down, and I've lived this for decades,

00:04:57.380 is by advertising boycotts.

00:04:59.580 And so you kind of have to find a new model that allows you to pay everybody.

00:05:04.440 We've got a staff of 20 already.

00:05:06.040 It'll be much bigger.

00:05:08.000 Without kind of being at the mercy of corporate interests.

00:05:12.400 And the subscription model is really the only one.

00:05:15.360 And so it does – I mean, that's not the only thing we're doing, of course,

00:05:18.600 but it's the core business because it – you know, you can build a fortress against media matters, et cetera.

00:05:25.100 You have to do that, as you know.

00:05:29.000 Your father was a journalist, and you started – and you gave the speech,

00:05:33.060 I'll get to in a minute, in Heritage and talked about the arc.

00:05:35.720 When did you notice – like in this open, you eviscerate what we call the corporate media.

00:05:41.300 When did it come – when was your awakening, even at Fox,

00:05:44.500 because your show was obviously quite different than the rest of the offerings over there at Murdoch News.

00:05:49.780 When did it become apparent to you that something your father dedicated his life to,

00:05:55.080 that you had dedicated your life to, had fundamentally changed?

00:05:58.240 That there was a different – this corporate media was quite different than journalism

00:06:02.320 that had traditionally been one of the strengths of the United States of America?

00:06:08.620 I mean, I was the last to know, honestly.

00:06:11.640 I hate to say that.

00:06:12.740 I wish I'd known 30 years ago.

00:06:14.300 I had no freaking idea.

00:06:16.040 It's almost like if you've ever known someone who's gotten divorced from an alcoholic spouse,

00:06:20.840 and he doesn't really realize he's married to an alcoholic until he gets divorced.

00:06:23.760 Everyone's like, wow, you know, your spouse was a drunk.

00:06:26.900 If you're very close to something, it's hard to see it.

00:06:29.400 And I was born in that world.

00:06:30.800 I've lived in it my entire life, the world that I'm now in opposition to.

00:06:34.400 So I'm not coming at it from the outset.

00:06:36.000 I'm coming at it very much as a survivor from the inside.

00:06:40.800 And so I just didn't see it.

00:06:42.180 And it happened, of course, incrementally.

00:06:43.520 The big step for me in my rethinking the world was the Iraq War. 0.81

00:06:48.880 And I just checked.

00:06:49.660 I was talking to a friend of mine.

00:06:51.000 It was 20 years ago today that I went to Iraq, and I advocated for that war because why wouldn't I? 1.00

00:06:56.780 You know, I was a right-winger in Washington with a daily TV show at CNN.

00:06:59.840 And then I went to Iraq, and my head exploded.

00:07:02.220 I won't bore you, but it was exactly the opposite of what I had anticipated.

00:07:06.680 And it taught me so much.

00:07:07.900 And the main thing it taught me was everything we'd been saying about it was a lie, and I'd participated in that lie.

00:07:13.520 So that kind of began the transformation, though, of course, it took a long time for it to reach the point it is now.

00:07:18.960 And I'm changing every day in my views.

00:07:21.520 But I would just say two things.

00:07:23.820 One, if you look carefully at almost any story, if you learn the facts about it, and then you compare that to what everyone is saying about it, you know, the spread is just enormous.

00:07:35.160 Like, the reality of what's happening bears literally no resemblance, and very often it's the mirror image, of what everyone is saying.

00:07:42.300 Like, what is that?

00:07:42.940 It can't be an accident if it keeps happening.

00:07:45.360 You know, if it turns out the vax is not the thing that saves you but the thing that hurts you, if it turns out that Zelensky is not Churchill, he's actually kind of bears more resemblance to the other guy, you know, that the Ukraine is not a democracy, or whatever.

00:07:57.380 I mean, just sort of pick your mass media story that we're bombarded with every day.

00:08:01.560 And not only are they not true, they're the inverse of the truth.

00:08:05.620 And then you see a pattern, because it's unmistakable, that this is happening on purpose.

00:08:10.400 And then you have to sort of wonder about why it's happening.

00:08:12.800 Like, what is the point of all of this?

00:08:14.080 And I haven't cracked that mystery.

00:08:15.980 I've got some thoughts on it, but I don't really know.

00:08:18.120 But all I know is I can't, you know, I can't participate in that.

00:08:21.620 And I do think, last thing I'll say, is that the key to fighting back is telling the truth with the knowledge that you will sometimes get it wrong.

00:08:29.340 But I mean, really telling the truth, really telling the truth, and not simply in public, but in private, trying to become, to the best you can, an honest person.

00:08:38.560 No exaggeration, no bullshit, just no lying.

00:08:42.120 Just try to be as, and by the way, if there are things you can't say, don't say them.

00:08:45.240 But don't participate in a lie knowingly, on any level ever.

00:08:49.540 And that's a discipline that's new to me.

00:08:51.240 It's amazing how often I fell short of that, and I didn't realize.

00:08:55.640 I've always thought of myself as an honest person.

00:08:57.280 But if you try to adopt the discipline of honesty, and it is a discipline, you realize how bad you are at it.

00:09:04.520 But I think as you progress, you become stronger inside.

00:09:07.740 I think the key to strength, and strength is the essential quality right now, is honesty.

00:09:12.560 And so, anyway, again, that's not just a question of, like, what I'm doing for work.

00:09:17.240 It's a question of the man I want to become.

00:09:19.520 But once you do that, like, everything changes in you.

00:09:24.880 I want to go, I don't have the, I'll play the heritage clips next.

00:09:28.000 But this is very much what your, the key part of your heritage speech was, I thought.

00:09:33.240 You talked about American institutions, and then you talked about, it would just become so commonplace to lie or misrepresentation.

00:09:38.560 What do you hope to, does this get back to the rot in the country, the rot of the elites, and just the institutions, this continually lying,

00:09:47.380 and that the lying and misrepresenting of the truth or spin has now infected all of our institutions?

00:09:53.280 I think you used the quote, sad, weak people lead to weak institutions in a weak country.

00:09:59.140 Is that the core of this, about lying and about getting back to central truth?

00:10:04.920 Of course it is.

00:10:06.340 And that principle holds across the board.

00:10:08.300 I mean, weak men lead to angry women who are, like, kind of, you know, the defining population of our country right now. 1.00

00:10:13.740 Angry, unsatisfied women. 1.00

00:10:15.420 And they got that way because the men in their lives are weak.

00:10:18.360 So that's always true across the board.

00:10:20.780 But I would say it's probably deeper than that.

00:10:23.180 Institutions are comprised of people.

00:10:24.960 And so what happens inside people determines the nature of the institution.

00:10:29.360 And so I think it's darker and bigger than that.

00:10:31.700 There's a spirit of dishonesty and destruction that's settled on the country.

00:10:35.700 Why would you wreck your own country?

00:10:36.960 You live here and so do your kids and the grandchildren you hope to have.

00:10:41.580 And yet every institution is being destroyed from within.

00:10:44.940 You're seeing mass suicide across the West, not just in this country, but throughout the Anglosphere and a lot of Western Europe.

00:10:50.640 And, like, what is that?

00:10:52.140 You know, that's not normal.

00:10:53.240 It's not politics.

00:10:54.260 It's not ideology.

00:10:55.060 It's not, they can't even articulate what they believe.

00:10:57.680 They don't know what they believe.

00:10:59.200 They're seized by a spirit of destruction and dishonesty.

00:11:03.220 And so that really gets into the metaphysical at that point.

00:11:06.320 You know, you're describing the spiritual realm, and that's something I'm hardly an expert on.

00:11:09.780 But my only talent is just noticing things.

00:11:12.800 And I do notice that.

00:11:13.920 So how do you fight it?

00:11:15.420 Well, I don't know.

00:11:16.240 I've never been in politics.

00:11:17.360 I'm terrible at, I can't even run my own office.

00:11:19.960 I'm not good at administering anything.

00:11:22.240 So I've got no hope of helping in that way.

00:11:24.740 I just believe on a core level that the truth will set you free.

00:11:30.540 That is absolutely right.

00:11:31.220 If you tell the truth, you are freer inside.

00:11:33.100 And if you tell the truth at scale, so is your country.

00:11:36.200 And so I'm not, that's not a mystical observation.

00:11:39.920 I'm not a mystical person.

00:11:41.580 I think that's a verifiable observation.

00:11:44.520 That actually happens.

00:11:46.200 And so our job is just to tell the truth, not for the sake of hurting people or rattling their cages or giving the finger to the libs or whatever, which I'll be honest, I do enjoy.

00:11:55.360 But that's a low impulse.

00:11:56.500 Pissing people off is not the goal.

00:11:59.020 Liberating them and our country is the goal.

00:12:01.440 And I think the only way to do that is by telling the truth calmly.

00:12:07.680 Was there, because this is also personal, not just professional, you say in your own life, you're doing it now.

00:12:12.740 And you're feeling that you're kind of going next level.

00:12:16.960 What was the moment, if you can go back and think about it, what was the moment, the catharsis, what was the moment that Tucker Carlson realized that in your own personal life or your own professional life, but institutionally, that this truth was not the central, not the organizing principle?

00:12:31.380 Is there any moment you can point to or any time period?

00:12:35.040 Yes.

00:12:36.720 Yes.

00:12:37.260 It was in late December of 2003.

00:12:41.660 And I actually approached it backwards, as I do so often in my life.

00:12:44.740 I sort of missed the point and stumbled into it.

00:12:46.980 But I was in Iraq, and I was so upset about what I saw.

00:12:51.580 And then, secondarily, I was upset about my role in it.

00:12:55.120 I mean, I had the second highest rated show on CNN, which was the highest rated channel at the time.

00:12:59.840 And here I was advocating for this thing that was terrible.

00:13:02.780 And I knew it wouldn't get better.

00:13:04.160 I knew it was a disaster immediately.

00:13:05.660 I arrived in Iraq the day that Saddam was captured, December 13, 2003.

00:13:10.860 And I was like, this is, I cannot believe I advocated for this.

00:13:13.800 So I wound up for, and I can't remember how, but doing an interview with the New York Times from Iraq.

00:13:18.860 And I just said it out loud.

00:13:20.500 I can't believe that I participated in something like this.

00:13:22.860 I wasn't responsible for the war, but I was one of the cheerleaders, low-grade cheerleaders for it.

00:13:27.740 Against my own instincts, by the way, I knew this was a bad idea, but I allowed myself to believe that it wasn't, which is always a mistake.

00:13:34.820 And here's the point.

00:13:35.660 As soon as I said that, as soon as I admitted my own culpability and silliness, and my complicity in something evil, I felt so much better.

00:13:45.000 Admitting, it's very easy to tell the truth about other people.

00:13:48.260 Very easy. 0.99

00:13:49.020 Oh, you're fat. 0.99

00:13:49.740 Okay. 1.00

00:13:50.680 That's no skin off my butt saying that to somebody. 0.99

00:13:53.800 But I am fat. 0.98

00:13:55.700 I'm, you know, that's really hard to say.

00:13:58.440 It's really hard to admit the truth about yourself, but it's the key.

00:14:02.200 It's always the key.

00:14:03.260 So admitting who you are is the moment you become liberated.

00:14:07.280 It's a prerequisite for all the Abrahamic faiths.

00:14:10.020 It's, of course, the key to the recovery programs, to AA.

00:14:13.940 And, by the way, it's the key to life.

00:14:15.860 And it's the key to strength.

00:14:16.920 As soon as you do that, you get this weird power, not a destructive power, not a power to rule over other people, but a strength.

00:14:25.340 And so I remember that experience.

00:14:27.180 I remember thinking, that was just absolutely incredible.

00:14:29.400 And that's happened to me a few times.

00:14:31.340 Like, you know, someone gets in your face, you can't say that, and you stay calm.

00:14:35.840 And so I'm just going to say it anyway because I think it's true.

00:14:38.020 I experienced this with the Ukraine thing. 0.55

00:14:39.360 It was so obvious to me that this was a terrible idea for Ukraine and mostly for the United States, that if we continued with this, this regime sanction, stealing people's stuff, we would get hurt.

00:14:50.940 And anyway.

00:14:52.240 Tucker, hang on for one second.

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00:16:23.260 And you see so many people break under the strain, under the downward pressure of whatever this is that we're going through.

00:16:30.620 And you look with disdain and sadness as you see people you know become quizlings. 0.91

00:16:38.680 You see them revealed as cowards. 0.98

00:16:40.000 You see them going along with a new, new thing, which is clearly a poisonous thing, a silly thing. 0.98

00:16:46.100 You know, saying things you know they don't believe because they want to keep their jobs.

00:16:49.240 If there's a single person in this room who hasn't seen that through George Floyd and COVID and the Ukraine war, raise your hand.

00:16:55.220 Oh, nobody?

00:16:55.760 Right.

00:16:55.980 You all know what I'm talking about.

00:16:58.140 And you're so disappointed in people.

00:17:00.040 You know you are.

00:17:00.660 And you realize that the herd instinct is maybe the strongest instinct.

00:17:03.940 I mean, it may be stronger than the hunger and sex instincts, actually.

00:17:08.040 The instinct, which again is inherent to be like everybody else and not to be cast out of the group, not to be shunned.

00:17:13.780 That's a very strong impulse in all of us from birth.

00:17:16.900 And it takes over, unfortunately, in moments like this.

00:17:19.180 And it's harnessed, in fact, by bad people in moments like this to produce uniformity.

00:17:23.800 And you see people going along with this and you lose respect for them.

00:17:27.240 And that's certainly happened to me at scale over the past three years.

00:17:30.860 I'm not mad at people.

00:17:31.760 I'm just sad.

00:17:32.400 I'm disappointed.

00:17:33.100 How could you go along with this?

00:17:34.220 You know it's not true, but you're saying it anyway?

00:17:36.340 Really?

00:17:36.660 You're putting your pronouns in your email? 1.00

00:17:38.140 You're ridiculous. 0.80

00:17:39.460 So for every 10 people who are putting he and him in their electronic J.P. Morgan email signatures, 0.99

00:17:47.680 there's one person who's like, no, I'm not doing that.

00:17:51.140 Sorry, I don't want to fight, but I'm not doing that.

00:17:54.660 It's a betrayal of what I think is true.

00:17:56.240 It's a betrayal of my conscience, of my faith, of my sense of myself, of my dignity as a human being,

00:18:04.300 of my autonomy.

00:18:05.580 I am not a slave.

00:18:06.660 I am a free citizen, and I'm not doing that.

00:18:09.720 And there's nothing you can do to me to make me do it.

00:18:12.520 And I hope it won't come to that.

00:18:16.060 But if it does come to that, here I am.

00:18:19.760 Here I am.

00:18:21.500 It's Paul on trial.

00:18:22.580 Here I am.

00:18:27.460 By the way, Tucker's going to be the keynote this weekend at AmpFest.

00:18:31.420 We want everybody to get there.

00:18:32.840 Tucker's going to have the major address.

00:18:34.260 He's the keynote.

00:18:35.360 Tucker, your friend and colleague, Andrew Breitbart, always in my years knowing you guys,

00:18:40.420 both you guys were both warriors but upbeat, optimistic.

00:18:44.800 The Sunlit Uplands is right there.

00:18:46.240 Where I notice, and maybe the Heritage speech and a couple others you've given, it's not just a simple, a different gravitas.

00:18:53.220 There's something now dark in these speeches that is not like Tucker Carlson, I remember.

00:18:58.900 What is that?

00:19:00.420 I think you've done three or four in a row now over the last six months that have this central thesis to it.

00:19:07.640 What is that?

00:19:08.420 Well, it's a reflection of what I see, which is darkness all around us.

00:19:15.940 And it's not explicable in conventional political terms, even in human terms.

00:19:20.320 There's something else going on.

00:19:21.780 I don't pretend to understand it, but it's unmistakable.

00:19:25.840 And I probably should leaven those speeches with the other observation, which is the upside.

00:19:31.080 You know, if 95% of the people you know have decided to repeat lies, there's 5% who refuse.

00:19:37.300 And those turn out to be the best people, the most honest people, also the most interesting people in the country.

00:19:44.700 And so I would say, you know, and I should always say this, that the last four years has been so distressing as you watch, well, I watch the country I grew up in destroyed.

00:19:54.900 But it's also been, and lost so many friends, and some people won't talk to me anymore, et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:59.880 Everyone watching knows the feeling.

00:20:01.540 But I've met so many other people who I just think are the finest people I've ever met.

00:20:06.440 And so the depth, the richness of my personal relationships has just really improved.

00:20:13.920 It's incredible.

00:20:15.940 You know what I mean?

00:20:16.780 So, like, as disappointed as you are with most people, you're even more impressed by the people around you.

00:20:22.720 That's how I feel about the people who I work with, the people in my family.

00:20:26.700 My family's never been closer.

00:20:28.200 I mean, evil is counterbalanced by its opposite.

00:20:31.880 That is kind of, it's almost a physics principle.

00:20:34.040 It's certainly a spiritual principle.

00:20:35.260 And I think the opposite wins in the end.

00:20:37.640 The goodness wins in the end.

00:20:38.980 But, you know, there's going to be some suffering between here and there, obviously.

00:20:42.880 But, I mean, I take great delight in the people around me every single day.

00:20:47.140 And I should say that.

00:20:48.340 I'm almost always in a good mood, you know.

00:20:51.060 But I am, when I think about the future, particularly what's happening with immigration, I'm very concerned about that.

00:20:58.440 I don't think you can let in tens of millions of people, young men, and then try to usher them into the military and see that as not ominous.

00:21:07.320 It's very ominous.

00:21:08.280 I mean, what is that exactly?

00:21:09.400 And I think it's very dark.

00:21:12.360 And I don't fully understand what it is.

00:21:14.260 But I think of all the things we should be paying attention to, we should be focused on that.

00:21:18.640 The idea that you let in, you know, millions of people from Africa and Latin America and give them automatic weapons in your own country. 0.87

00:21:24.760 You know, we should think about that.

00:21:26.740 And we should be very afraid of that.

00:21:29.880 When you talk about that, you've been the one guy from Spain to Brazil to Argentina.

00:21:34.400 You've been the person that's gone out and been the connective tissue to Hungary multiple times.

00:21:40.280 Is this a global phenomenon, not just in this country?

00:21:43.300 And do you see a fight back when you go to Spain and see Vox, when you go to Hungary and see Orban, when you see what's happening in Argentina?

00:21:51.420 I do.

00:21:52.380 I mean, of course.

00:21:53.440 And I'm struck, and I mean, you were on this before anyone I knew, and seeing the connections.

00:21:59.060 I mean, Brexit, in fact, it was your analysis of Brexit that really changed my mind on a lot of things.

00:22:04.300 To me, it was like the sort of sad, declining country my ancestors came from, England, which basically no longer exists.

00:22:11.100 And I didn't pay attention to it.

00:22:13.200 But you did, because you saw what I now see, which is that all of this is very similar.

00:22:18.220 It's not identical.

00:22:19.380 Different countries have, of course, histories and cultures and languages that are different.

00:22:23.440 But the theme is the same, and that is the end of democracy, an oligarchy by, you know, a group of unelected people who, you know, have most of the power and are trying to end democracy.

00:22:38.440 And democracy simply defined is, you know, giving political power to the majority.

00:22:43.040 And they don't have any left.

00:22:44.100 So, yes, of course, there is, you know, there's a thread that connects all of these.

00:22:48.800 I will say Hungary is very different in that Orban has power.

00:22:52.180 He runs the country.

00:22:53.920 And almost none of these other countries have a situation like that.

00:22:57.600 So Hungary really is the place to look for what the U.S. could be.

00:23:03.620 And by the way, last thing I'll say, Hungary is not a radical place at all.

00:23:07.320 It's not a, you know, right-wing biosphere or something like that.

00:23:11.060 It's America 1988 or something.

00:23:13.940 I mean, it's totally recognizable.

00:23:15.760 It's moderate.

00:23:17.180 Their opposition voices are not only allowed but are prominent.

00:23:21.060 It's kind of the democracy you want to live in.

00:23:23.340 It has a freer media than we do.

00:23:24.800 So the idea that it's some right-wing hellscape or something is, like, insane.

00:23:28.820 And I would just encourage anyone who's interested to go there.

00:23:30.720 It's also a very pretty country with nice people and good food.

00:23:33.240 But leaving that aside, it's like if they think that is radical, if Ann Applebaum calls that Nazism or something,

00:23:40.780 then Ann Applebaum is the totalitarian, actually. 1.00

00:23:44.820 So I'm serious.

00:23:47.920 Exactly, as we think here.

00:23:50.340 Tucker, about the new company, how do people get to the content?

00:23:53.220 You've got, obviously, legions of fans that are here and at AmFest over the weekend.

00:24:00.760 How do people get to the new company?

00:24:02.760 Where do they go?

00:24:03.440 How do they sign up?

00:24:04.420 How do they become part of this?

00:24:05.620 It sounds incredibly exciting, and you're a big punchback.

00:24:09.300 And we know everybody's got your back.

00:24:11.360 So how do we all participate?

00:24:14.240 You just go to tuckercarlson.com.

00:24:15.820 It's super simple.

00:24:16.960 It's right there.

00:24:18.680 It's a subscription service.

00:24:19.980 A lot of our stuff, well, all of our stuff, to some extent, will be premiering on X.

00:24:26.340 And then for the full thing, you go to the website.

00:24:29.600 A lot of our stuff on X will be the full interview or documentary or whatever.

00:24:33.040 But, again, the point is to create a news company that challenges the monopoly and does it in a way that's enduring.

00:24:42.580 I mean, my timeline, you know, I'm a very short-term thinker, actually, and I'm just thinking I want to make it to December 2024 because I think it's an absolutely pivotal moment.

00:24:52.060 And a lot of things are going to happen, and an almost unimaginable number of changes are going to take place between now and then.

00:24:58.280 And I want to have a place where people can know what they are.

00:25:02.900 You know, this is the problem with the immigration thing, and I won't be long, but in one sentence, it's completely changing the United States forever. 0.94

00:25:11.880 And most people have no sense of that at all because they live in their world.

00:25:17.060 I mean, I live in my world.

00:25:18.240 I live in a really rural area that hasn't changed since I was a child very much.

00:25:21.900 But America is changing, and the place is just so big that you don't know.

00:25:25.780 And so I want to chronicle that, and I want to let people know what's happening.

00:25:30.220 And if they're in favor of it, you know, this becoming a third-world country, then, okay, they're in favor of it. 0.98

00:25:35.020 But they should at least know what's happening.

00:25:40.020 TuckerCarlson.com, you can get the full everything, the documentaries, the interviews, your insights, other things.

00:25:46.140 The Twitter aspect of it, for Twitter, what do people go there?

00:25:49.540 Are you going to have snippets on there, or they just go to TuckerCarlson.com, and that's where they go?

00:25:53.680 And the full thing.

00:25:54.520 Sign up and see it all?

00:25:55.180 Yeah.

00:25:56.420 Yeah.

00:25:56.680 I mean, the truth is none of this would be possible without that platform, without X,

00:26:02.720 because, the website formerly called Twitter, because it's the last big, you know, at-scale platform in the world that allows free speech.

00:26:12.960 I mean, there's nothing else like it.

00:26:14.660 And so we've been really grateful.

00:26:16.900 I would have, I don't know what I would have done if Elon hadn't just reminded me,

00:26:22.460 hey, you could come here and post your stuff here.

00:26:24.060 I've never taken a dollar from Elon Musk.

00:26:26.080 I don't work for him.

00:26:26.860 I don't plan to.

00:26:27.840 But the fact that he's done this and kept it open, and, you know, may it stay open unto the generations.

00:26:34.740 Who knows what will happen?

00:26:35.620 But for now, it is open.

00:26:37.160 And so, you know, our stuff will run substantially there, and then a lot of other stuff on our website.

00:26:46.400 TuckerCarlson.com, the new network, the new competitor to corporate media.

00:26:51.020 Everybody's been waiting for this.

00:26:52.140 We're very excited.

00:26:52.940 Everybody go over there now and sign up.

00:26:55.100 Tucker, we'll see you at AmFest.

00:26:56.740 People are very excited to see you out there in the flesh.

00:26:59.240 Last question.

00:26:59.960 We've got about 30 seconds.

00:27:01.280 Just give me the title of one of the two books you want to write that nobody will read.

00:27:05.160 I would beg to differ.

00:27:06.920 People would want to read them.

00:27:07.780 But just give me the title, the working title of one of them.

00:27:11.880 I've already written them in my head.

00:27:14.060 One is a biography of my father, who's an amazing man, that I will write someday for my children.

00:27:19.300 And the second is a book called In Defense of Nature, which I've also substantially written, but not put on paper.

00:27:26.080 So, yeah, I'm going to write those at some point.

00:27:29.480 Wow.

00:27:30.160 Tucker Carlson, honored to have you on here.

00:27:32.020 Good luck.

00:27:32.820 Fair winds and following seas, as we say in the Pacific Fleet, sir.

00:27:36.660 Thanks, brother.

00:27:37.420 Thank you.

00:27:38.360 Tucker Carlson's launch, TuckerCarlson.com.

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00:27:44.420 Charlie Kirk's going to join us after the break.

00:27:46.520 Tucker's going to be at AmFest, and so should you.

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00:27:54.440 Your humble servants here at the War Room, the entire team, are going to be there.

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00:29:54.860 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vannis.

00:29:57.300 You know, it's a huge endeavor what Tucker is doing.

00:30:05.240 That's a huge endeavor because you're launching, you know, a channel.

00:30:10.220 I mean, here at the War Room, I mean, Lord, just keeping up with the War Rooms.

00:30:14.460 Now, it is four hours a day, and we're six days a week, at least for the morning show on Saturday.

00:30:18.980 But, man, this is a lot of work.

00:30:21.280 And Tucker's just the guy to do it.

00:30:23.280 I think people have been waiting for this for a long time.

00:30:25.100 It seems like a big gap from when he was on.

00:30:28.040 And it's just, you know, the Murdoch News Network is so, like, they had, I'm not making this up, they had,

00:30:34.800 Ducey was off the Murdoch poll on Nikki.

00:30:39.040 You know, she's up, I don't know how many over Biden.

00:30:41.320 They're all skipping around on it.

00:30:42.500 But it's all ephemeral.

00:30:43.940 It doesn't mean anything.

00:30:44.940 It's not relevant.

00:30:46.260 But the next day, they're on the couch saying, oh, she should run as an independent.

00:30:51.160 Remember this whole thing.

00:30:52.080 I think Don Jr. went off, and I humbly say that we were the first.

00:30:57.600 Don Jr. came in yesterday.

00:30:59.040 I mean, power hit it.

00:31:01.600 This Nikki deal is not about beating Trump.

00:31:03.760 She's not going to beat Trump in New Hampshire, no matter how many people converge around this.

00:31:08.120 But it is, it's all to force her on the ticket as the VP, and then she would run the administration. 1.00

00:31:14.540 She would be like the prime minister to Trump's kind of chairman, right, like Cheney and Bush.

00:31:22.380 That ain't going to happen.

00:31:24.060 I think there's enough people like Don Jr., myself, and others that say, no way, not going to happen.

00:31:28.720 Zero chance.

00:31:29.600 Good donors, push as hard as you want. 1.00

00:31:31.120 Will not happen.

00:31:33.020 That would be so poisonous to the Trump second term.

00:31:35.280 And President Trump has a very defined, today, the lead story in the Hill, I've got it up on Getter, but the lead story in the Hill, the lead story, was how all this talk about Trump as a dictator has only helped him.

00:31:46.240 Because when people say it, he's not saying he's going to be a dictator.

00:31:48.560 Remember, he's against these FISA extensions.

00:31:50.620 You see cash and people on her all the time.

00:31:53.840 He's the one that's sitting there, does not want to spy, does not want to surveil citizens.

00:31:59.700 Trump's the farthest thing from a dictator.

00:32:01.440 And you see that in his policies.

00:32:02.480 People can compare what life was then to what life is now and what we found out.

00:32:07.740 And even to the fact that people like Elon Musk, and look, people know I'm no fan of Elon Musk, but even what he's tried to do to Twitter, although I don't think he's a free speech absolutist, it's certainly very different than the FBI-controlled asset it was.

00:32:19.300 And Tucker, that's why Tucker's show stood out so much on Fox, because he had actually at least quasi-independence or independents before they fired him.

00:32:30.380 And that's what that gap's been in the news and with the Alex Joneses and the War Rooms and other shows like this and the radio content.

00:32:38.540 But that's why Tucker's, the Tucker point of view and also he's much more, remember, he's a professional journalist.

00:32:46.680 Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, these others, we're not professional journalists.

00:32:50.680 I've never, ever said I was a professional journalist.

00:32:54.540 I was a professional naval officer and I was a professional financier.

00:33:00.180 That was my career until, you know, I started making films, became a filmmaker.

00:33:05.720 I actually didn't want to drop it.

00:33:07.000 I'm not going to tell you the film I'm making, but we're actually for the first time, I think in five years, is it five years?

00:33:12.420 I think first time in five years I'm making another film, one that has to come out.

00:33:16.400 Not the big project I'm working on, but this has got to come out.

00:33:18.980 It's got an immediacy to it.

00:33:21.020 So we've actually been filming.

00:33:24.480 But Tucker, this is a huge endeavor.

00:33:26.320 That's why go check it out, tuckercarlson.com and go check it out.

00:33:29.020 And Tucker is going to be at AmFest with us this week.

00:33:31.620 And at AmFest, I'm actually going to do a breakout session, trying to do a breakout session, at least one segment of the show, to have people.

00:33:38.880 And maybe we can ask questions about the macro of what's happening with gold, the macro geopolitical and financial events that are happening.

00:33:47.700 Philip, Patrick, and I, and Philip's going to be back on the show on Saturday.

00:33:50.800 Last Saturday was great.

00:33:51.800 Our back and forth.

00:33:52.820 Maybe I can get Philip out to AmFest.

00:33:55.620 That's what I do.

00:33:56.160 He's in L.A.

00:33:56.740 Maybe we can fly out there and we do a two-hander.

00:33:59.880 But I really want to make sure that a working class, a middle class audience has a really good understanding of the dollar and how important currency is in your life and the strength of that currency, what it means to you.

00:34:14.580 And also the macro events that are going on, they're going to drive.

00:34:18.100 You just heard Tucker.

00:34:19.020 I mean he said 2024 is going to be like no year in modern history.

00:34:22.860 So that's a pretty good forecast.

00:34:27.100 And like I said, Tucker's a professional journalist.

00:34:29.300 His dad was.

00:34:30.300 He saw the love and respect he has for his dad.

00:34:32.340 He wants to write a biography.

00:34:33.980 He says he's already written in his head.

00:34:35.600 Charlie Kirk joins us.

00:34:36.940 Charlie, Tucker's coming to AmFest.

00:34:39.380 I just got to say, I know you want to talk about some of this RNC stuff.

00:34:42.820 But you've done, and I got to give you a hat tip.

00:34:45.340 These things are not easy.

00:34:46.520 What Tucker's launching when you launch a channel and all the work that takes, that is like 20 hours a day, seven days a week.

00:34:52.620 What you guys have accomplished at Turning Point is nothing short of extraordinary.

00:34:57.300 You are changing the arc of history.

00:35:00.480 And you guys have done it with just grit and determination.

00:35:03.180 This AmFest is quite simply the best lineup of speakers I've ever seen.

00:35:07.700 And I know how hard that is to do.

00:35:09.920 So a hat tip.

00:35:10.820 And I know Tucker's looking forward to coming out there.

00:35:13.180 I'll be out there.

00:35:14.080 Tell us a little bit about AmFest, and then we can talk about this debacle over at the RNC.

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00:35:38.600 When I mean world-class experience, it is 10 out of 10, right?

00:35:41.900 Bannon, War Room Posse going to be doing the shows.

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00:35:46.900 It's unbelievable, right?

00:35:48.120 Not to mention we've got country music concerts.

00:35:50.360 We have 125 exhibitors, Steve.

00:35:52.500 We have over 130 media members.

00:35:54.720 The whole movement is going to be represented here.

00:35:57.280 It's going to be amazing.

00:35:58.280 So AmFest.com, you guys have been hearing us plug it a lot.

00:36:01.180 And thank you for the kind words, Steve.

00:36:03.020 It's the team that deserves the credit.

00:36:04.700 It's a world-class event.

00:36:06.140 That's in addition to all of our high school chapters, our college chapters,

00:36:09.420 Blexit, Turning Point Academy, TPUSA Faith.

00:36:12.360 And what you see is an amazing picture of all the Turning Point ecosystem.

00:36:15.240 We have the Turning Point Action deal run by Tyler.

00:36:18.200 We're going to have all the precinct committeeman stuff, ballot chasing,

00:36:21.160 holding the GOP accountable, getting rid of Ronna McRomney.

00:36:23.940 All of that's going to be there.

00:36:25.240 Not to mention how to start campus activity.

00:36:27.680 We're going to have hundreds of pastors from across the country.

00:36:30.940 So this is not just, hey, show up, applaud, nice speakers.

00:36:33.700 No, it's about action, action, action.

00:36:35.520 And, Steve, you are keynoting our Sunday day of action.

00:36:39.060 It's going to be amazing.

00:36:40.180 Sunday evening.

00:36:40.900 Steve, I know you're going to bring down the house and having War Room Posse there is just amazing.

00:36:45.520 The numbers are incredible.

00:36:46.880 We're going to publish them right before AmFest starts.

00:36:50.020 But we are in pace.

00:36:50.960 We're right there to be the biggest AmFest we ever had.

00:36:53.820 And so everyone can check it out, AmFest.com, promo code Charlie, or promo code War Room.

00:36:57.380 I don't care.

00:36:57.860 Whatever you guys need to do to get the discount there.

00:37:01.420 And I loved that conversation with Tucker, by the way, Steve.

00:37:04.200 You did a great job.

00:37:05.000 And Tucker said something that's actually going to be a theme for us on the Charlie Kirk Show and at Turning Point USA, which is repeated throughout the scriptures.

00:37:12.640 It is this Hebrew word, Hineni, which means here I am.

00:37:15.980 Lord, use me, is the actual translation.

00:37:19.680 Willing is really the best translation.

00:37:21.380 I love that.

00:37:22.180 2024 needs to be, hey, I'm stepping up.

00:37:25.020 Samuel used it.

00:37:25.800 Isaiah used it.

00:37:26.600 Abraham, Moses, Jacob, all throughout the Torah and the Old Testament.

00:37:30.400 The heroes, when God needed to look for somebody, like, hey, is anyone willing to step up?

00:37:36.220 Here I am at the binding of Isaac, at the call of Jacob to Israel, Moses at the burning bush, Samuel, when he was called into service.

00:37:45.200 Always they repeated.

00:37:46.140 It's not repeated a lot.

00:37:47.140 It's only eight or nine times in the whole scriptures.

00:37:49.260 One of the most powerful phrases, here I am.

00:37:52.760 AmFest and going into 2024 needs to be the here I am year.

00:37:55.840 For those of us that are willing to stand and to have God use us for his purposes.

00:38:00.820 So check out amfest.com.

00:38:04.340 Yeah, I didn't want to use that time to talk about topics of the day.

00:38:07.480 Tucker and I could talk about that for hours.

00:38:09.420 And I'm always interested in his observations.

00:38:12.100 He's always got an incredible take on things.

00:38:14.240 But the Tucker I knew from a decade ago or longer that ran Daily Caller and Andrew ran Breitbart was it's a different guy today.

00:38:25.680 That's the important – the arc of his story is very important to what's going on today because he's such a major figure.

00:38:32.200 And he's more of a major figure today than even he was back then.

00:38:35.000 But he is – he senses this darkness, right?

00:38:38.900 And he's not a dark guy.

00:38:40.720 I mean he's an upbeat, optimistic, funny, always got that laugh guy.

00:38:46.320 So it's very important to understand what he's seeing.

00:38:48.500 And he's been all around the world.

00:38:50.240 He's been the one out there in the last year really doing the connective tissue between the Orbans and what's happening in Argentina and Brazil and Spain and all of it.

00:38:59.540 Charlie, you've – this RNC thing.

00:39:02.640 Tell me about the letters of resignation.

00:39:04.660 I'm not sure I totally understand this.

00:39:06.220 So I've asked you to come on and explain it to me.

00:39:08.380 What is going on with the – was it the Youth Advisory Council?

00:39:11.700 Is there something up here?

00:39:13.900 Yeah.

00:39:14.200 I mean the RNC launched a Youth Advisory Council, I guess, to try to get back a turning point.

00:39:18.080 And it's completely fallen apart.

00:39:19.500 Five or six lawmakers that are part of it sent an open letter saying, hey, Ronna, this thing is a joke.

00:39:24.220 It doesn't do anything.

00:39:25.640 It's nothing more than kind of a fundraising grab.

00:39:27.920 We're done.

00:39:28.920 And look, I have been very, very clear and publicly so.

00:39:32.480 And the RNC attacks us in that article.

00:39:34.760 They've attacked us before.

00:39:36.000 They're more worried about attacking turning point.

00:39:38.300 I don't care.

00:39:38.700 Bring it on.

00:39:39.400 We pick big fights and we win them.

00:39:41.720 And we finish them at turning point, most importantly.

00:39:44.500 So, you know, Ronna McRomney knows that, which is why she's in a place of desperation right now, which is, look, she has to resign. 1.00

00:39:50.940 She's a loser. 1.00

00:39:51.700 Her track record speaks for herself. 1.00

00:39:53.480 And, Steve, you said it great on John Frederick's show.

00:39:55.420 Where's the grassroots muscle?

00:39:56.540 Where's the staff?

00:39:57.160 Where's the infrastructure?

00:39:58.040 Where's the urgency?

00:39:59.160 I'm sure she's a sweet person.

00:40:00.520 She's always been very nice to me.

00:40:01.780 I've never impugned her character or said that she's not pleasant or someone that might be really great, you know, at a soccer match for your seven-year-olds that are running around the field.

00:40:10.160 Great.

00:40:10.440 Terrific.

00:40:10.880 We need a wartime general.

00:40:12.540 Okay?

00:40:12.900 We need someone that understands what we're up against, someone that fights to win, that can guard the vote, that understands all the different sophistication of the ballot election laws, not someone that is, you know, the sweetest person to go bring cookies to your neighbor.

00:40:25.180 Okay?

00:40:25.740 That's terrific.

00:40:26.600 That's nice.

00:40:27.020 I want a wartime conciliary, to use the godfather term, okay? 0.98

00:40:31.740 And someone's got to step out of the way, and that's Rana, and we need someone to step up that understands it's going to take 20-hour days, close the Washington, D.C. office, open up operations in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.

00:40:41.540 Now, like immediately, work with the outside grassroots groups, and instead of trying to court or work with turning point action, which is a beast, you know that, Steve.

00:40:51.060 And this weekend, we'll show what the Lord has helped bless us with.

00:40:55.440 They're against us.

00:40:57.180 They're working against the conservative grassroots.

00:40:59.280 So, anyway, this Youth Advisory Council is just another example of what the RNC has become, which is a mockery.

00:41:06.360 It is a joke.

00:41:07.620 It's not just a joke with the grassroots, but also donors.

00:41:10.400 This last weekend, we had 850 of our top donors at Mar-a-Lago.

00:41:14.440 We raised a big sum, glory be to God.

00:41:16.120 And they were giving standing ovations any time a speaker would come up and say that Rana needs to resign.

00:41:21.740 So, she's lost the trust of the grassroots.

00:41:24.400 She's lost the trust of the donors.

00:41:26.700 And, Steve, it's not a matter of, well, I hope we win.

00:41:28.880 It is mission critical to win in 2024.

00:41:31.420 And what a tragedy it would be that the MAGA movement, that Donald Trump, the greatest president of my lifetime, one of the greatest presidents in American history, would not become president because Mitt Romney's niece remained as RNC chair.

00:41:45.500 What a tragedy for this beautiful country that would be.

00:41:48.620 She's got to go.

00:41:51.180 Now, I've spent all the time on the debates and all the money in these debates.

00:41:54.800 Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, they're an extremist.

00:42:00.240 I'd throw Georgia in there, too. 1.00

00:42:01.840 These state parties, particularly Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona, which we have to win.

00:42:06.180 There's no choice.

00:42:06.880 They're an extremist.

00:42:08.680 Charlie, what is your recommendation?

00:42:10.700 How are we to remove her? 0.88

00:42:13.900 Yeah, I mean, look, Trump just got a call for her resignation.

00:42:16.300 It's that simple.

00:42:17.160 If he does that before the winter meeting in Vegas and he says, look, you know, she's got to go.

00:42:21.640 And when I win, you get to go be ambassador to the Turks and Caicos.

00:42:25.560 Great.

00:42:26.660 So you get a nice little thing.

00:42:28.120 Senate confirmed.

00:42:29.180 Go get a desk job in the Caribbean to go greet people there and represent the country. 0.93

00:42:35.640 I don't know.

00:42:35.960 And then go nominate somebody that has proven the ability to combine the grassroots, that has the trust of donors.

00:42:43.740 And it's that simple.

00:42:45.240 And so I've said this to the president privately.

00:42:47.380 I'll say it publicly.

00:42:49.180 He needs to – if he's serious about winning, which he is, but there's some people around him that say, oh, no, Rana, we can work with it.

00:42:56.100 How many times do we have to go through this, Steve?

00:42:57.440 Steve, 2018, 2020, 2022, it's excuse after excuse.

00:43:01.300 2023, oh, I can't work with state and I can't work with federal.

00:43:04.660 You've got to combine the different forces together, and we've got to win.

00:43:08.280 And, Steve, you know it better than anyone else.

00:43:09.760 President Trump's instincts are amazing, and he needs the best possible team around him.

00:43:14.480 And I want a strong and healthy RNC.

00:43:17.480 I want an RNC that listens to the grassroots, that is able to combine the data,

00:43:21.400 that understands that outside groups are going to fill in the gaps where the RNC and the campaign can't and won't.

00:43:28.460 And currently right now what we have is a bitter and vengeful RNC that is trying to extract revenge,

00:43:33.900 exact revenge on Charlie Kirk and Turning Point and Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA.

00:43:38.060 You read that article in Fox News.

00:43:40.000 They're there attacking Turning Point.

00:43:43.020 That's the priority of the RNC.

00:43:45.060 I hope the whole audience understands that.

00:43:47.160 The RNC is focused on trying to attack us.

00:43:49.060 We've got to bounce.

00:43:51.740 Charlie's up in 14 minutes.

00:43:53.120 See you then, Charlie.

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00:45:43.440 So we've got a lot going on today.

00:45:45.720 Historically, there's going to be now a debate,

00:45:47.960 and if Grace and Moe over at Getter and at Rumble can get up on Getter

00:45:53.860 and then we'll put it over to Rumble, I want to follow that debate.

00:45:56.940 Probably go to C-SPAN.

00:45:58.140 We'll get it.

00:45:58.540 I'll be up and giving commentary.

00:45:59.760 Debate on the impeachment vote.

00:46:01.240 Impeachment vote's coming today.

00:46:03.220 Look, we have to make sure it's not a shiny toy.

00:46:05.460 This is something that needs to be done.

00:46:07.580 It has nothing to do with vengeance or revenge.

00:46:10.320 It has nothing to do with that sad sack

00:46:11.960 that intruded himself into American public life this morning

00:46:16.760 in kicking off our show.

00:46:19.140 You know, Hunter Biden.

00:46:21.580 Boy, I'm sure the White House loved that.

00:46:23.220 They're getting eviscerated right now,

00:46:24.500 particularly the fact he didn't answer any questions.

00:46:26.360 This has to be done.

00:46:32.420 Elections have consequences.

00:46:34.240 Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.

00:46:38.080 Boy, thinking about what Tucker's thinking and Mike Lindell

00:46:41.280 in this Rasmussen poll.

00:46:43.960 20% of your countrymen, these are voters,

00:46:47.640 admitted to mail-in ballot fraud.

00:46:51.620 That they either signed it for somebody else,

00:46:53.200 they didn't fill out everything,

00:46:55.240 they, you know,

00:46:57.000 X amount of people said they voted in districts

00:47:01.480 they no longer lived in.

00:47:03.860 It's absolutely catastrophic.

00:47:08.140 That's why they say the mail-in ballot

00:47:09.280 was the way they rigged it.

00:47:10.500 Mark Elias told you that.

00:47:12.760 Bill McGinley and Rahim Ghassam

00:47:15.400 on the Transition Integrity Project.

00:47:17.840 Remember, they put the thing up in your grill,

00:47:19.400 how they were going to steal it.

00:47:20.380 We went around the country.

00:47:21.420 During that COVID period,

00:47:23.380 talked to hundreds of groups,

00:47:24.600 most of them by Zoom,

00:47:26.340 because you couldn't travel that much

00:47:27.840 back in the COVID days.

00:47:29.220 It was still pretty restrictive.

00:47:31.660 They told you how they were going to do it.

00:47:34.540 That's why Tucker,

00:47:35.240 hey, you think it had catastrophic consequences this time?

00:47:38.860 Think about if we let them steal it next time.

00:47:41.160 And this is one of the things with RNC,

00:47:42.420 I just don't,

00:47:43.500 and I'm pretty dialed into what's going on.

00:47:45.540 I just don't feel it,

00:47:47.520 particularly in a couple of states like Arizona,

00:47:49.720 like Michigan,

00:47:50.680 like Pennsylvania,

00:47:51.860 throw out three that,

00:47:52.980 and I ain't feeling all that great

00:47:55.140 about Georgia or Wisconsin

00:47:56.680 or Nevada,

00:48:01.000 in particular with the going around

00:48:02.080 trying to lock up,

00:48:05.600 you know,

00:48:05.840 the alternative electors.

00:48:07.200 And that's all lawfare.

00:48:08.520 That's all scare attacks.

00:48:09.340 So at noon,

00:48:09.900 there's going to be a debate

00:48:10.800 about the impeachment of Biden.

00:48:13.720 I will tell you,

00:48:14.400 if they vote for this impeachment inquiry,

00:48:16.580 they're going to vote for an impeachment.

00:48:18.900 They're not going to do an inquiry.

00:48:19.960 They don't think they've got enough

00:48:21.240 to actually now formalize it,

00:48:22.720 drop it in there,

00:48:23.480 et cetera.

00:48:24.180 And it's just not me

00:48:25.680 ripping on Ducey

00:48:27.320 and the Murdoch News

00:48:28.480 white couch,

00:48:30.180 curvy couch in the morning.

00:48:32.720 Comer is out last night on Newsmax

00:48:35.760 saying he's never going to go back

00:48:37.700 on that show

00:48:39.060 because Ducey takes

00:48:40.760 such cheap shots at him.

00:48:44.460 Now,

00:48:44.900 Comer and I,

00:48:45.580 you know,

00:48:45.840 we have our own relationship.

00:48:46.840 He's not abandoned,

00:48:48.700 right?

00:48:49.000 Telling the guy that day.

00:48:51.120 And I've not been ecstatic

00:48:53.340 about his television appearances

00:48:55.820 because I think they're too scattergun.

00:48:58.280 I'm just going to call it like it is.

00:48:59.400 He chairs this enormously important committee

00:49:03.820 and I think he's got the goods.

00:49:06.240 I'm not so sure they move with urgency

00:49:08.180 or why we'll be voting on this

00:49:10.440 on 13 December

00:49:11.580 with work to do over the holidays,

00:49:12.900 but you're going home.

00:49:14.160 Who knows how fast you take this

00:49:15.720 in January and February

00:49:16.680 and it is an election year.

00:49:19.000 But we are where we are.

00:49:22.960 The continual financial crisis

00:49:24.600 and people,

00:49:25.400 and you see,

00:49:26.100 you know,

00:49:26.440 the congressman was on earlier,

00:49:29.080 part of the Freedom Caucus,

00:49:30.260 they're talking about

00:49:30.660 at one year CR,

00:49:31.480 they get 1% cuts

00:49:33.340 and people are talking about

00:49:34.080 a couple hundred billion dollars.

00:49:35.660 My point to those guys,

00:49:36.600 you've got to junk that.

00:49:37.480 You've got to come in

00:49:38.380 and you've got to be hard.

00:49:39.300 And it's not about,

00:49:42.460 you know,

00:49:43.420 the $200 billion.

00:49:44.360 It is about getting to the pre-COVID

00:49:45.880 as a start.

00:49:47.440 With President Trump,

00:49:48.280 I think in the first year

00:49:49.000 we came within $500 billion

00:49:50.220 of closing.

00:49:51.460 I think we could have done it

00:49:52.400 if it was more people

00:49:53.140 that had President Trump's back

00:49:54.340 and Russ Vogt's back,

00:49:56.240 particularly about getting cuts.

00:49:58.740 So impeachment today,

00:50:00.620 NDA,

00:50:01.340 there's a lot of huge things

00:50:02.400 to still the fight on Ukraine.

00:50:04.520 There's so much going to Capitol Hill.

00:50:06.020 I'm adamantly opposed

00:50:07.540 and if you call,

00:50:08.640 I would appreciate

00:50:09.220 if you do that in there,

00:50:10.340 202-225-3121

00:50:12.200 of what in the hell 0.91

00:50:14.280 are you going home for? 0.55

00:50:15.380 There's so much work to do here.

00:50:16.640 Just stick here.

00:50:18.680 Stick here and keep working.

00:50:20.220 Keep grinding.

00:50:20.760 Pass those appropriations bills.

00:50:22.020 Don't let them be too hard.

00:50:23.020 Work it out.

00:50:23.600 Figure it out.

00:50:24.140 Hammer it home.

00:50:27.000 Because the situation

00:50:28.040 and the finances,

00:50:28.840 because the structural things

00:50:30.000 and now we've got

00:50:30.560 the Grant Interest Rate Observer

00:50:32.120 agreeing with War Room

00:50:33.500 and E.J. and Tony

00:50:35.100 that, yeah,

00:50:35.800 hey,

00:50:36.280 he says

00:50:36.840 the interest rates

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Bannon's War Room - December 13, 2023

Episode 3244： Building The New Media; The Rot Of The Institutions

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