Bannon's War Room - December 21, 2023


Episode 3263： Standing Up Against The Corrupt Courts


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

164.38654

Word Count

9,088

Sentence Count

676

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

On today's show, John Avlon and Michael Bloomberg's Joe Buettner discuss the latest in the ongoing case against Donald Trump, and why he should be sent to jail. They also discuss why the Supreme Court should remove Trump's name from the ballot in Colorado and why it's time for him to pay a price.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 By the way, there's nothing controversial about that.
00:00:21.460 I mean, Mike Barnacle, we all saw it with our own eyes.
00:00:25.700 This is one of those moments where, what, are you going to believe me?
00:00:29.260 Are you going to believe your lying eyes?
00:00:31.780 Americans saw this with their eyes.
00:00:33.800 They understand that Donald Trump did, in fact, take part, lead, encourage an insurrection to take place.
00:00:42.480 They know that he told people that they needed to storm the Capitol.
00:00:45.880 They needed to stop the count.
00:00:47.480 He got extraordinarily angry with the Secret Service when they stopped him from going up there because he wanted to march on the floor.
00:00:56.160 He wanted he wanted to be in the center of the insurrection.
00:01:00.360 And, Mike, you know, it's so maddening when Donald Trump talks about the, quote, hostages and how grotesque to say that.
00:01:08.780 Well, what's going on in Israel?
00:01:10.340 But Donald Trump talks about the hostages that are being held.
00:01:13.300 He talks about letting people who beat the hell out of cops out of jail after he gets there.
00:01:18.500 The reason why is every time they come up, it's glaringly obvious Donald Trump still has escaped justice.
00:01:27.600 Donald Trump is not in jail for committing insurrection, which we all know he did.
00:01:32.960 Americans know he did.
00:01:34.280 But he's out of jail because he's rich and powerful.
00:01:38.100 Those people being in jail, those working Americans that followed his instructions and told the judges they were just following his insurrection instructions, they're in jail because they're not rich and powerful like Donald Trump.
00:01:52.020 So, yeah, yeah, he committed insurrection.
00:01:54.500 Yes. If there were justice already, he'd be a lot more concerned about things than just not being on the Colorado Republican ballot.
00:02:03.680 He'd be concerned because he should be in jail.
00:02:06.660 Tara, they had a chance because it's true.
00:02:08.820 Behind the scenes, half of these people despise Donald Trump, want him gone, as Mara points out.
00:02:14.160 And yet when they had the chance to impeach him, they were too scared to do that.
00:02:17.260 When they've had the chance to pick somebody other than him in the primary, they're too scared to do that.
00:02:20.840 They don't want they want some other deo sex match in a force to come and take him away and take him up in a spaceship because they don't want to touch him.
00:02:27.940 And now this is the chance for the courts to take care of this.
00:02:31.240 And they're still screaming.
00:02:32.640 Tom Tills is saying they want to defund Colorado and any state that does it takes off the ballot.
00:02:38.900 You know, it's this you're right.
00:02:41.160 And I tweeted this the other day.
00:02:42.540 I'm like, we wouldn't even be here now if a handful more Republicans had the testicular fortitude to remove him in the Senate back in 2021 when he was impeached for trying to overturn a free and fair election, which was obvious to everyone that it was an attempted coup.
00:02:58.080 But they refused to do it.
00:02:59.540 Every single lifeline, every exit ramp off the Trump highway, they have not taken it.
00:03:04.780 Not only have they not taken it, they've gunned it to the floor and kept going.
00:03:08.420 You know, I mean, like it's insanity.
00:03:10.700 You look at this and go, what is wrong with these people?
00:03:13.640 But power is very intoxicating.
00:03:15.880 I've said this before.
00:03:16.920 And I think that this this power, this thirst for power and this this desire for relevance has gotten so out of control that it is now an existential threat to the entire country.
00:03:26.920 The Republican Party has has abdicated their responsibility to be the beacons of, you know, constitutionality and freedom and democracy like the old Republicans used to be.
00:03:36.920 And instead, they've become, you know, a pro-illiberal populism, pro-Nazi fetish authoritarian party that makes excuses for Donald Trump and disparages our Democratic guardrails.
00:03:48.060 We cannot stay silent on this.
00:03:49.900 That's what next year is going to be all about.
00:03:52.340 Well, Joe, you know, the proof is in the in the pudding, so to speak.
00:03:55.980 In this case, the proof is on the videotape, like old sports house announcers used to say.
00:04:00.320 Let's go to the videotape and take a look.
00:04:01.920 Donald Trump did indeed support and promote an insurrection and everybody in America and everybody in the world saw it play out.
00:04:09.460 It was not a great day for democracy, certainly not a great day for for this country.
00:04:14.420 And Donald Trump is still he has yet to pay a price.
00:04:18.240 Joe, not only for all of this, he really, in effect, has not paid a price for anything over the past 30 to 35 or 40 years.
00:04:25.740 And he's in business in New York.
00:04:27.520 He's never been touched by the law.
00:04:30.520 He's always avoided it with delays and obfuscation and lying.
00:04:35.440 And he's still at large around the country.
00:04:37.800 The sad part is he has enormous support considering the large country we live in and the amount of people in this country who pay attention to politics, but not really all of politics.
00:04:48.060 And the Colorado ruling, sadly, as legitimate as some people think it is, it is more or less a get out the vote operation for Donald Trump, for his people.
00:04:59.600 And it's just it's kind of disturbing.
00:05:02.580 There are those of us, and I've said it all along, I know it's irritating to people who just think that politics is about everything and men are above the law.
00:05:14.160 But we either have a constitution or we don't have a constitution.
00:05:19.840 Here's the factual question.
00:05:22.140 Did Donald Trump commit insurrection?
00:05:26.280 Yes.
00:05:26.620 If Donald Trump committed insurrection, then, as Judge Liddick said yesterday, it's not anti-democratic to follow the Constitution of the United States and Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
00:05:44.700 That's, in fact, the most pro-democratic thing that can be done.
00:05:48.540 One, stay with me, because if, in fact, he committed insurrection against the United States, this is the ultimate protectorate of that democracy.
00:06:01.520 I understand it's sad and it's pathetic that people will say, oh, Trump derangement syndrome.
00:06:07.400 Oh, this.
00:06:08.260 Oh, that.
00:06:08.960 On other networks, they're going to be trying to trying to confuse you.
00:06:12.320 They're going to be trying to move the ball.
00:06:13.580 They're going to be trying to confuse their own viewers, which they do quite regularly, quite often.
00:06:19.500 Bye.
00:06:22.680 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:06:27.580 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:06:32.820 I got a free shot.
00:06:34.080 All these networks lying about the people.
00:06:37.080 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:06:38.980 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:06:40.180 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:06:43.120 It's going to happen.
00:06:44.400 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:06:47.080 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:06:54.580 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:06:58.320 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:04.540 War Room.
00:07:05.560 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:07:07.600 Bannon.
00:07:13.260 Thursday, 21, December, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
00:07:16.940 Merry Christmas.
00:07:17.960 We're in the Christmas season.
00:07:19.320 Happy Hanukkah.
00:07:20.620 Happy holidays.
00:07:21.580 All of it.
00:07:22.080 So we're packed today on so many different topics.
00:07:26.060 Let's start.
00:07:26.500 We got Boris Epstein who was able to step out of a meeting.
00:07:29.580 Boris, even Morning Joe had to admit this is probably the greatest get-out-the-vote effort we've ever had.
00:07:35.720 I want to deal with Colorado and your take on Colorado, how it's playing out.
00:07:41.760 And then I want to get to this very important issues about immunity and all that.
00:07:46.840 But can we start in Colorado?
00:07:48.040 Your thoughts on that?
00:07:50.320 Steve, honored to be with you.
00:07:51.400 I'm honored to be with the posse.
00:07:53.320 My thoughts on Colorado are what they were two days ago.
00:07:55.580 First of all, remember, this is very important for all the listeners.
00:07:59.020 And MSNBC doesn't like to talk about it.
00:08:01.340 CNN doesn't want to talk about it.
00:08:02.560 But here's the reality.
00:08:04.160 That decision by the Colorado Supreme Court, which is a total travesty.
00:08:09.220 Even Bill Barr out there saying the Supreme Court will slap it down.
00:08:13.000 You've got Ty Cobb, no president of the president, saying 9-0 in the Supreme Court.
00:08:17.300 But that decision, a total travesty, is made by the Colorado Supreme Court itself pending a decision by the federal Supreme Court.
00:08:28.900 So here's what the Colorado Supreme Court did.
00:08:30.640 They went on this big, long rant.
00:08:32.580 Oh, no, we got—I mean, it is obviously top derangement syndrome.
00:08:37.280 And then they said at the end of it, well, this is what our feelings are.
00:08:42.280 But we are so unsure of it on the law, we're staying our own decision until January 4th.
00:08:49.860 And if President Trump appeals to the Supreme Court, which we are doing, it stayed indefinitely.
00:08:55.400 And that is vital to remember.
00:08:59.040 It is vital to follow because the actual effect—and remember, the primary ballots in Colorado are printed on January 5th.
00:09:06.760 So the actual impact of the decision, what is it?
00:09:11.380 A lot of screaming and crying on MSNBC and other outlets.
00:09:15.900 But in the real world, not much, because now President Trump is going to the federal Supreme Court, as it has been publicly stated.
00:09:24.800 And if you look at every federal court, which has looked at this ridiculous election interference issue, they've all said there's nothing there.
00:09:34.660 And why?
00:09:35.060 Because it's clear that, first of all, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment does not apply to the president.
00:09:41.000 That's one.
00:09:41.900 And second of all, on the facts, guess what?
00:09:45.300 President Trump said peacefully and patriatically.
00:09:47.580 He said go home in peace.
00:09:49.140 He made statement after statement after statement.
00:09:51.700 He asked for the National Guard, authorized the National Guard, statement after statement, action after action, promoting peace and stability, the opposite of any insurrection or incitement.
00:10:03.140 And remember, remember, the DOJ, even a crooked Joe Biden-controlled DOJ, did not charge President Trump with infrational incitement.
00:10:14.300 Why?
00:10:14.900 Because even they couldn't stretch it that far.
00:10:17.600 And it's obvious that they've tried to stretch everything as far as they could.
00:10:21.420 All of these deranged prosecutors across the country have.
00:10:25.220 So that's the reality of it.
00:10:26.560 And that's cutting away all of the fluff, cutting away all of the heartfelt excitement by the deranged lives.
00:10:35.400 Oh, we've been waiting for this for so long.
00:10:37.700 Just like they said when Alvin Bragg in New York brought that first completely empty, lawless, factless, no criminality indictment in April.
00:10:48.200 Oh, we've been waiting for this, the liberals cried out.
00:10:50.440 And what happened, President Trump has dominated in the polls for months and months and months and only gone up.
00:10:56.460 And now it is an absolute annihilation.
00:10:59.220 So the net result is that the American people are coalescing more and more and more around President Trump.
00:11:04.340 The more that these, let's just be honest, craved radical liberals try to attack him and prevent him from taking office, which he will do on June 20, 2025.
00:11:15.440 If Congress had moved, the Colorado has just taken the J6 committee report, which is a joke, and just submitted that as proof, as the facts of how Donald Trump led an exurrection, which we know it's a complete joke.
00:11:32.260 They didn't have a ranking member, minority counsel, cross-examiner witnesses, didn't get a chance to review.
00:11:37.760 It's not a committee.
00:11:39.740 So should Congress, I don't know why, we know McCarthy, we had a town hall last night where he will be on here to talk about it more, with Gates, Biggs, Eli Crane, Raheem Kassama, myself in Arizona.
00:11:52.000 A lot of power.
00:11:52.920 A lot of power in the town hall.
00:11:54.840 It was pretty, pretty, at a church too, cowboy church.
00:11:59.080 But Boris, one of the things the audience continued to bring up is why haven't, they understand McCarthy was double dealing Trump the whole time,
00:12:05.580 but why isn't Mike Johnson, why have they moved forward and just overruled that?
00:12:09.580 That committee thing is a joke, and now it's being used to drive the, because you're right, Jack Smith,
00:12:15.520 it would craze Jack Smith that has every tool in the toolbox available to him, although he's totally illegitimate,
00:12:21.820 and we're hoping that suit gets brought.
00:12:24.340 Jeff Clark, something a little later, will talk about that.
00:12:26.280 But why don't we just, why didn't the Congress just obliterate the original J-6, and they have no predicate at all,
00:12:34.120 because Jack Smith knows the law, knows the facts, and knows that he could not get a conviction on President Trump for insurrection?
00:12:41.300 Well, Steve, it's interesting you say that, because, and I want to be careful what I say,
00:12:44.940 but if you look at the letters that Representative Latimer has been sending regarding the wrongdoing of the J-6 committee,
00:12:51.860 there are steps, significant, and fast steps in the works as we speak,
00:12:59.420 that will address just how lawless, just how legitimate, and how wrongful that committee was,
00:13:05.240 and not just the makeup of the committee was completely illegitimate.
00:13:08.300 The actions of the committee were illegitimate, but then also the deleting and destroying of the document,
00:13:13.980 and Benny Thompson, he can't answer anything.
00:13:15.920 One day, oh, I didn't send any documents to Georgia, to Fanny Rose,
00:13:19.920 and then the next day, oh, yeah, of course we send documents.
00:13:23.140 The whole thing was like a macabre Saturday night skit.
00:13:27.020 Literally like Saturday night, John Lowe, it's, oh, yeah, sure, sure, the liar.
00:13:30.820 That's what Benny Thompson's doing.
00:13:32.660 He's been lying up and down about what they did with the information,
00:13:36.760 just how much collusion there was between the Unselect Committee and Fanny Rose in Georgia,
00:13:41.660 the Unselect Committee and other deranged prosecutors.
00:13:44.580 So right now you do have vital members of Congress under the leadership of Speaker Johnson
00:13:50.720 who are doing exactly what you're talking about, and it's got to be done quick.
00:13:55.180 It has to be done as soon as they're back in January.
00:13:59.880 Boris, I know you're busy.
00:14:01.220 I'd just like you to hold.
00:14:02.940 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:04.480 I've got to talk to you about this immunity and President Trump coming out.
00:14:07.800 CNN is in full meltdown saying that President Trump is trying to delay things.
00:14:11.260 The thing's the exact opposite.
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00:16:18.540 Okay, welcome back.
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00:16:51.300 Boris Epstein.
00:16:52.720 See, okay, I want to stipulate for this discussion.
00:16:56.400 We didn't have time because I've got so much to go through and so many guests.
00:16:59.620 Ellie Honig, who is a very bright analyst, you know, former, I think, DOJ prosecutor,
00:17:06.060 never Trump, Trump hater.
00:17:08.220 He's been out, and last night, I've got it up on Getter if you want to go,
00:17:11.680 he's just saying, hey, this thing's a travesty.
00:17:14.800 And then Bill Barr, the other hater, coming out.
00:17:17.920 He's basically said, it's the dumbest thing they've done.
00:17:20.880 It's going to drive MAGA to have a massive voter turnout.
00:17:25.300 You've got Ty Cobb.
00:17:26.500 I have, yesterday we started the show, Ty Cobb, 9-0 at the Supreme Court.
00:17:29.940 So, Boris, you've got the haters.
00:17:31.800 I mean, the people that have really turned on President Trump the most, or CNN analysts
00:17:36.840 that hate him every night, just saying this Colorado thing is too over the top.
00:17:41.960 But let's pivot to the one I think is actually more serious, and that's what's going on with
00:17:47.100 J6.
00:17:47.640 And this maniacal, the judge and deranged Jack Smith are so obsessed on election interference,
00:17:54.880 they have to go on 4 March.
00:17:57.180 They have to start this trial, right?
00:17:59.440 Nothing can move it.
00:18:00.740 So, walk me through, because you've got this back and forth with immunity, and you're going
00:18:03.800 to expedite immunity, not expedite immunity.
00:18:06.300 Just tell our audience what's going on.
00:18:09.840 Steve, and that's why I love this audience, because it cuts through all the noise and always
00:18:16.260 gets to the signal.
00:18:17.360 And here, the signal is actually pretty hidden, right?
00:18:20.080 Because there's so much procedural motion, so many different stuff.
00:18:23.420 But here's what's happening right now.
00:18:26.020 Because of President Trump's powerhouse immunity motion on presidential immunity, saying that
00:18:31.640 it was his job and duty and right to question and investigate a, and I'll say it, and I'll
00:18:40.540 keep saying it, a rigged and stolen 2020 presidential election.
00:18:44.700 That all his actions are beyond the pale for any prosecution, be it by deranged Jack Smith
00:18:51.380 or anybody else out there, that it is all covered by presidential immunity, which is
00:18:56.780 deeply rooted in American history, American jurisprudence, and common law.
00:19:01.280 So, President Trump's lawyers make this robust motion.
00:19:03.800 Of course, the D.C. judge, Chuck, denies the motion.
00:19:07.600 But then, because it's a motion on immunity, which is dispositive to the case, so immunity
00:19:14.120 arbitration motions, which, if they're decided for a defendant that they end a case, be it
00:19:20.880 civil or criminal, they have built in what's called an interlocutory appeal.
00:19:24.960 I know I'm getting pretty legal easier.
00:19:26.600 An interlocutory appeal means an appeal that you could take up all the way during the pendency
00:19:31.500 of the case.
00:19:32.080 And when immunity is in question, there's set precedent under Griggs and other key Supreme
00:19:39.200 Court cases that says that a defendant is not just free from trial, they're free from
00:19:44.120 what's called the burdens of litigation.
00:19:46.420 Burdens of litigation.
00:19:47.860 So then President Trump and his team go to Judge Chuck, and she actually granted a full
00:19:51.440 stay.
00:19:52.040 Last week, she granted a full stay of that D.C. case.
00:19:55.400 So nothing can move forward.
00:19:57.100 Now, deranged Jack's prosecutors are still trying to send some discovery documents.
00:20:03.360 Hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on one second.
00:20:06.680 I want to get the full stay.
00:20:08.660 That is not reported on mainstream media.
00:20:10.600 You'd never hear that talked about.
00:20:11.960 Just repeat that.
00:20:13.380 Even Chunkin, what did she do?
00:20:15.080 She stayed any further proceedings on this trial, correct?
00:20:18.320 All proceedings on the D.C. case, the trial, the pre-litigation motion, the discovery,
00:20:25.080 everything is fully stayed right now, frozen in time, frozen in time.
00:20:30.920 Just imagine something's moving and then ice hits, boom, frozen.
00:20:34.880 That's the status right now of that D.C. case, except for litigation on immunity.
00:20:40.820 So, because this immunity is such a major issue, and because President Trump has such
00:20:48.140 a strong argument on the motion on immunity, now the D.O.J., of course, under the direction
00:20:55.160 of crooked Joe Biden and that pathetic team, they're trying to run all the way to the Supreme
00:21:00.640 Court saying, Supreme Court, Supreme Court, please, could you decide immunity?
00:21:04.160 But here's the problem they have.
00:21:06.000 And that's what Eli Honig was talking about.
00:21:07.760 Others were talking about.
00:21:09.140 Well, you can't appeal something when the lower court decided for you on it, right?
00:21:14.740 So Chuck can remember, she denied immunity.
00:21:17.940 So now, the prosecutors deranged and others are trying, oh, well, we want to go to the
00:21:23.320 Supreme Court.
00:21:24.020 Wrong.
00:21:25.120 You can't do that.
00:21:26.440 It is the president's right to appeal that, and he's appealed it correctly through the
00:21:30.380 proper process to the D.C.
00:21:33.560 Circuit Court of Appeals.
00:21:34.700 And now the D.C. Circuit has laid out a schedule.
00:21:39.340 The oral arguments are January 9th.
00:21:41.880 And so yesterday, President Trump, his powerhouse team, filed a really robust motion opposing
00:21:49.560 that expediting to the Supreme Court.
00:21:52.380 There was a motion to the Supreme Court, filing to the Supreme Court, saying we oppose the expediting,
00:21:57.080 A, there's no jurisdiction, because, again, it is impossible for the DOJ to appeal a case
00:22:03.180 which they won in the district court, and B, proper process should be followed.
00:22:10.000 So that was the motion yesterday, Eli Honig.
00:22:11.780 And you've got to give credit what credit is due.
00:22:13.340 Did a good job on CNN talking about.
00:22:15.020 And, again, if you go back up 10,000 feet, what is all this about?
00:22:19.280 Why did the DOJ and Biden take three years to bring a case and now are trying to rush it?
00:22:24.560 Because they know that President Trump is dominating them in the election.
00:22:28.280 It is all about election interference, and they're obsessed with trying to get to trial
00:22:32.000 as soon as possible because that is the only way they can imagine beating President Trump,
00:22:36.840 but they're failing at every step.
00:22:38.520 Again, they waited for three years.
00:22:39.980 Remember, these actions that they cannot criminalize but are trying to criminalize,
00:22:45.260 they all happened three years ago right about now.
00:22:48.420 President Trump was investigating this corrupt election three years right about now.
00:22:52.920 And they waited for three years, and now they're saying,
00:22:54.860 no, no, no, we can't wait for the Supreme Court to decide this in due course.
00:22:59.220 But, yes, they can, and, yes, they will.
00:23:01.660 And President Trump and his attorneys are making sure that is exactly what happened,
00:23:05.220 that we are standing up for American jurisprudence, the American system of justice,
00:23:09.460 and our very Constitution and the very bedrock of our country.
00:23:14.900 Boris, how do people get to you?
00:23:17.320 Steve, thanks so much.
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00:23:29.660 Stay strong.
00:23:30.640 God bless.
00:23:31.320 Merry Christmas to all and all offense.
00:23:33.920 I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:23:36.060 By the way, Boris, just send it to the team.
00:23:38.380 You guys are just doing an incredible job.
00:23:39.840 All the balls you have to juggle, the complexity of all these different cases,
00:23:42.980 it's just, it's quite frankly amazing.
00:23:45.180 The team we've put together and how it's working together and really grinding through this stuff is quite extraordinary.
00:23:52.100 So thank you from the audience.
00:23:53.600 Remember, or not remember, just keep in mind, this is all, the lawfare is all about opportunity costs
00:24:07.440 and about chop blocking President Trump and the enormous expense of all this.
00:24:13.100 But if you look at every different angle, and we'll hopefully get into more detail maybe over the holidays,
00:24:19.040 we can take some downtime and make sure people up to, and you're going to have to, if you're in the war in posse,
00:24:23.220 you're going to have to be up to speed on this.
00:24:24.580 It's just a key part of it.
00:24:26.060 In fact, let me get Jeff Clark in here right now.
00:24:29.560 Jeff, two things I wanted to talk about, but I needed to go back to something you came on yesterday about this amicus brief.
00:24:35.780 Because I want you to get to Ludig, because you have these insane conservatives that just have been triggered by Trump,
00:24:44.500 and they're off the rails, so I want to get to Ludig in a second.
00:24:46.800 But I want to go back to the amicus brief.
00:24:49.040 Look, I'm no lawyer, but after you talked about it last night, we had a great town hall.
00:24:54.260 Raheem's going to be on here to talk about that.
00:24:56.540 You hit a chord with people that said, wow, if what Clark's talking about is real,
00:25:02.280 why have we not been to court, and why are we not going full bore in this?
00:25:06.220 It sounds like this whole thing is completely jury-rigged.
00:25:10.880 Can you go back to that amicus brief for a second?
00:25:12.780 I want to talk about the billet of Jack Smith and why you're making the case,
00:25:17.640 and Ed Meese made the case, and I guess your law firm has made the case,
00:25:20.660 in an amicus brief about how the whole thing's totally legitimate from top to bottom, sir.
00:25:27.660 Well, Steve, thanks for having me on.
00:25:29.520 So just one quick correction, it's not a brief from the Center for Renewing America.
00:25:34.320 It's a Cher Jaffe brief, and Mark Paoletta is with them as well as with the Center.
00:25:41.760 Oh, the law firm, yes, yes.
00:25:43.460 Yeah, Ed Meese has put in this new amicus brief, right?
00:25:47.740 And basically he's going through the constitutional defects with the fact that
00:25:53.000 Jack Smith is in power as a special counsel, right?
00:25:57.020 It's really something that violates the appointments clause.
00:26:01.540 You know, I think that it violates the basic separation of powers.
00:26:04.820 I think it's time, as I had pointed out on your show in months past,
00:26:09.040 it's time to look at this, you know, special counsel set of regulations that were put in place,
00:26:15.940 you know, back in the Clinton administration when the independent counsel statute,
00:26:21.340 where Ken Starr operated under that statute and their prior independent counsels sunsetted and was allowed to lapse.
00:26:29.400 They put these regulations in place on the theory that they were an emergency.
00:26:34.460 The only emergency was the fact that Congress didn't decide to keep going with the statute.
00:26:39.180 And that's not an emergency.
00:26:40.120 That's our democratically elected representatives deciding they didn't like this law.
00:26:46.680 And, you know, Justice Scalia had very seriously criticized the independent counsel statutes' constitutional defects.
00:26:53.100 I think some of those carry over to the special counsel regulations that try to create essentially a fourth branch of government, Steve.
00:27:01.960 They try to create a, you know, a special counsel who he doesn't report to the president.
00:27:07.900 He ostensibly reports to the attorney general.
00:27:11.480 But the attorney general says that he can't be removed except for cause,
00:27:15.800 which is exactly, you know, how they created the whole independent set of agencies under the New Deal, et cetera.
00:27:23.300 So it's a walking constitutional anathema.
00:27:26.380 It needs to be pulled down.
00:27:27.780 It's good to see he's challenging it.
00:27:29.440 I hope we, I hope, and my advice is to get all over this because this is the administrative state.
00:27:36.880 It basically sets them up for lawfare.
00:27:39.400 It's pretty obvious about this.
00:27:40.940 Jeff Clark's with us.
00:27:42.800 Dave Bratt is my co-host.
00:27:44.360 We're going to bring him in.
00:27:45.280 We got Ben Harnwell and Rome.
00:27:46.660 Raheem Kassam's going to join us about this amazing town hall at the Cowboy Church with Eli Crane, Matt Gates, Andy Biggs, Raheem, and myself last night.
00:27:55.420 A lot to do here on the run-up to Christmas.
00:27:58.080 Be back in the worm in just a moment.
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00:30:32.500 Welcome back to War Room.
00:30:47.880 We continue our Christmas music through Christmas Day and into next week.
00:30:51.600 It always bugs me how the Christmas music starts like on Halloween,
00:30:56.040 and boom, on the afternoon Christmas Day, it's over.
00:30:58.420 You know, Christmas music's supposed to start later during Advent and then roll all the way through Christmas
00:31:07.540 to a little Christmas epiphany.
00:31:10.740 At least that's the way my mom ran it, so we're doing the same deal here.
00:31:15.520 Ludwig.
00:31:16.680 This guy went from a superstar, at least potential guy they used to talk about for Supreme Court,
00:31:23.260 and maybe that's why he's so angry at Trump.
00:31:25.260 But he's gone off the rails.
00:31:26.700 I mean, he's one of the driving forces in the back of this whole 14th Amendment thing.
00:31:30.760 And now he's got this thing, he's on TV, because they're going to put him on everywhere, right,
00:31:34.600 to say this is unassailable.
00:31:36.440 His point is this is unassailable.
00:31:39.220 Clark, you bring a lot of intellectual wattage to this.
00:31:44.020 Is Judge Ludwig right?
00:31:46.640 Is it unassailable, what happened in Colorado, sir?
00:31:49.280 No, Steve.
00:31:51.460 He says it's unassailable in every respect, and I think it's assailable in every respect.
00:31:58.480 So there are six parts to the ruling, so let me run through them.
00:32:03.860 The first one is that, you know, under Colorado election law, this Section 3 under the 14th Amendment
00:32:11.460 challenge can proceed.
00:32:12.600 The majority finds that, but there were two dissenters, and remember, all the justices
00:32:17.940 in Colorado were appointed by a Democrat president, I mean, Democrat governor, I'm sorry.
00:32:22.620 And they, you know, two of them thought it wasn't something you could do under the state
00:32:26.660 election code.
00:32:27.760 That question will not be something the Supreme Court takes up, because it's a state law question.
00:32:33.060 Colorado speaks with finality about its own state law.
00:32:36.900 But the other five issues are all federal issues, and they're all fair game for the Supreme Court
00:32:41.060 to use to reverse this completely lawless decision.
00:32:44.760 The first of the federal issues is that Section 3 is so-called self-executing.
00:32:49.680 In other words, you don't need to have any more process.
00:32:52.340 You can just have whoever the election authorities are, and there be 50 or more across the states.
00:32:58.520 They can just assess for themselves whether President Trump engaged in an insurrection
00:33:02.540 and decide whether to put him on or take him off the ballot.
00:33:06.480 And I think that's ridiculous, and the historical case for that runs into trouble starting in
00:33:12.160 1869, Steve, where former Chief Justice Simon Chase sat riding circuit in a criminal matter
00:33:20.140 where the criminal tried to say in 1869, hey, I was convicted, but I was convicted by a judge
00:33:25.940 who used to be a Confederate legislator, so you should let me off because of Section 3 of
00:33:31.320 the 14th Amendment.
00:33:32.880 Simon Chase made short work of that, said, you know, no, that's not something that comports
00:33:36.980 with due process.
00:33:38.860 Also, it would create chaos because there were transitional governments, interim governments
00:33:44.140 in the South after the end of the Civil War as part of Reconstruction, and what?
00:33:48.600 All of their acts would be nullified.
00:33:50.300 It would have created chaos.
00:33:51.760 So even in a situation where you're dealing with someone who was a member of the Confederacy,
00:33:57.580 you know, it was held not to be self-executing.
00:34:00.240 So for it to be held to be self-executing, you know, more than a century later as to President
00:34:05.460 Trump is truly laughable.
00:34:07.420 The next issue is the question of whether this is a political question or not.
00:34:13.320 And this goes to the limitations on courts.
00:34:16.380 So courts are not supposed to decide so-called political questions.
00:34:20.800 They're only supposed to decide true cases or controversies of the type that the courts
00:34:25.920 in England and Westminster would have heard.
00:34:29.340 And these are, you know, basic kinds of disputes, A versus B, property cases.
00:34:34.480 You know, we've expanded it somewhat, but we haven't expanded it to the stage where if
00:34:38.360 the Constitution assigns something to another branch, that, you know, that's something that
00:34:43.580 the courts should do anyway.
00:34:46.120 Here we had a whole second impeachment of Trump on this whole same theory, which failed.
00:34:51.580 He was acquitted there.
00:34:53.360 And that's one political process or part political process.
00:34:57.140 It's part adjudication, part political.
00:34:59.120 And then the other thing is we have the ability to just run the election and let the people
00:35:03.760 choose.
00:35:04.300 So I do think there's a very strong argument that this is a political question.
00:35:08.040 The Colorado Supreme Court said to the contrary.
00:35:11.880 The next argument they make is that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment applies to the office
00:35:20.640 of the presidency.
00:35:22.140 The state court trial judge, as you might remember, had ruled to the contrary.
00:35:26.040 So they reverse her on that.
00:35:28.060 That's one of the subjects of my paper.
00:35:30.620 The second argument in the paper was the one I've already gone through about acquittal under
00:35:34.540 the second impeachment.
00:35:35.880 But the first argument was that the president isn't even on the list because it's a hierarchical
00:35:40.520 list.
00:35:42.020 It starts with senators and then proceeds on down.
00:35:44.160 And the president and vice president are just not on the list.
00:35:47.360 And that's, I think, a really solid argument.
00:35:50.780 MSNBC, CNN, they try to portray it as some kind of technicality.
00:35:54.900 Well, the words and structure of the 14th Amendment, which was adopted initially, obviously, by Congress,
00:36:03.300 you know, like a statute, and then it goes for ratification, you know, that is something
00:36:09.760 that needs to be obeyed.
00:36:11.100 And the trial judge was willing to obey it, but not four out of the seven justices of the
00:36:16.060 Colorado Supreme Court.
00:36:17.940 Their next argument is that, you know, they conclude President Trump committed an insurrection.
00:36:25.100 And on that, they affirmed the trial judge because it took her to page 102 or so to come around
00:36:31.780 to saying that President Trump and the office of the presidency isn't on the disqualification
00:36:36.480 list in the 14th Amendment.
00:36:38.600 But she did have, you know, dozens and dozens, scores of pages saying that he engaged in an
00:36:43.380 insurrection.
00:36:43.800 And this is where we come back to this whole idea of, you know, is this a self-executing
00:36:49.280 concept?
00:36:50.760 President Trump has never been charged with insurrection under the relevant criminal code
00:36:56.280 provision in 18 U.S.C.
00:36:58.460 He's certainly never been convicted of it.
00:37:00.280 And this also brings us back to Sam and Chase's opinion in so-called Griffin's case from
00:37:05.020 1869.
00:37:06.540 You need to have due process.
00:37:08.120 You need to have the ability of fact-finders to actually look at it, a jury, and decide
00:37:14.840 whether someone engaged in insurrection or not.
00:37:17.080 Insurrection is not like the issue of the president having to be 35 or a natural-born
00:37:22.280 citizen.
00:37:23.020 These are easily tested facts you don't need trials for.
00:37:26.240 But whether someone engaged in insurrection requires scientist, Steve, which is the fancy
00:37:30.880 legal term for the intent.
00:37:32.900 You need to have the intent to try to overthrow the government.
00:37:35.480 And it's ridiculous to say that President Trump had that intent because he specifically
00:37:42.320 said, first of all, he left office on time, right, which seems like a lot of folks try
00:37:48.200 to forget and portray him as an autocrat.
00:37:50.680 But second, he told people to march peacefully and patriotically down to the Capitol, let their
00:37:56.040 voices be heard.
00:37:57.720 And so it's ludicrous to imagine that he could ever be found guilty of insurrection, which
00:38:02.980 is why Jack Smith didn't charge him with it.
00:38:04.740 And then the last thing is they find that the First Amendment in Colorado was no protection
00:38:10.320 for President Trump because he used dog whistles, essentially, to incite the crowd.
00:38:16.000 If he says fight, that's inciting speech.
00:38:20.320 But if Maxine Waters says it, that's just political rhetoric.
00:38:23.920 And obviously that's a double standard, another way in which the Colorado decision is all wet.
00:38:28.420 Jeff, before I let you go, what's the next thing we should look for in this Colorado?
00:38:34.060 Is it the Supreme Court?
00:38:35.060 It's been state.
00:38:35.800 I think the 4th of January ballots get printed for the primary on the 5th of January because
00:38:40.380 Colorado is 100 percent mail-in state, which makes my head blow up.
00:38:44.900 But what's the next thing we should look for in this?
00:38:47.100 Well, Steve, the stay is very peculiar.
00:38:52.200 So let me say something about that.
00:38:53.760 The stay isn't just something that elapses on January 4th if the Supreme Court doesn't
00:38:58.260 take it.
00:38:59.020 If President Trump seeks a Supreme Court review, the stay continues.
00:39:04.200 That's a real head-scratcher.
00:39:05.460 I've never seen that before.
00:39:06.460 It seems like a kind of artificial device almost to, like, blow up their own ruling and
00:39:12.020 then leave the Supreme Court saying, well, the ballots on January 5th, now that this was
00:39:16.240 already stayed for an extra day, have already gone out with President Trump's name on it.
00:39:20.620 Like, what is there to review?
00:39:22.340 Isn't this case moot?
00:39:23.440 So I think that's the next thing to see is how the Supreme Court reacts.
00:39:27.980 Did they take this case?
00:39:29.180 Did they say that it's, you know, moot and immediately vacate it because it's moot?
00:39:34.100 Or did they decide to order a merits briefing?
00:39:36.900 So that's going to be the next important thing to watch for.
00:39:40.880 Okay, we'll keep it on.
00:39:41.940 Jeff Clark, thank you for changing your schedule around today to join us.
00:39:44.700 Really appreciate it.
00:39:45.300 What's your social media?
00:39:46.300 Where do they get you at CRA?
00:39:48.760 Sure.
00:39:49.320 So I'm at Jeff Clark US on Getter and X and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social.
00:39:56.820 And the Center for Renewing America, which is up on screen, is at americarenewing.com.
00:40:01.840 And Merry Christmas, Steve.
00:40:03.120 By the way, Merry Christmas, brother.
00:40:05.960 And Russ Vogt, you guys are doing such an amazing job on the legal side, on the budget side.
00:40:10.120 The toughest issues we're dealing with as a movement, as a party, as a country, the guys over at CRA, the men and women there are just all over it.
00:40:19.660 So I want to thank you, Jeff and Russ and the entire team.
00:40:26.280 Dave Bratt, we've got a lot to get to.
00:40:28.460 We're going to do the economics in the next hour.
00:40:30.220 Bratt's with me for two hours.
00:40:31.200 Thanks for hanging out.
00:40:32.580 I want to pick your brain first.
00:40:34.820 We've got a couple of minutes here on the Christmas season.
00:40:37.360 We're trying to low-key things to get into the holiday season.
00:40:42.920 But I've got to tell people I've never seen an intensity of politics, war, all of it.
00:40:49.460 And it's just insane.
00:40:51.800 Your thoughts, brother?
00:40:52.620 Yeah, well, I'll do a bit of a bank shot.
00:40:55.840 I can't go straight from Joe Scarborough into Christmas.
00:40:58.840 It's just too much of a divide.
00:41:02.240 I will go a bank shot.
00:41:07.380 And in the Bible, of course, your mind turns toward that.
00:41:11.020 And Pilate of Rome asked Jesus, what is the truth?
00:41:17.080 And that is really what's at stake here.
00:41:19.580 What is truth?
00:41:21.180 And, of course, Jesus said, I am the truth in this Christmas season.
00:41:25.880 But to get out of the truth on this insurrection or whatever the issue of the day is, just go to the truth tellers.
00:41:33.280 You've got a guy named Dershowitz.
00:41:35.780 He's the number one Harvard con law guy in the world and a Democrat.
00:41:39.100 And he makes a joke of this insurrection thing.
00:41:43.360 You've got to be kidding.
00:41:44.280 And he cites stance on the Civil War and what true insurrections look like.
00:41:48.580 And then there's even more evidence.
00:41:50.880 There's metaphysical certainty today it wasn't an insurrection because the Wall Street Journal today says it was not an insurrection.
00:41:59.380 They cannot stand Trump.
00:42:01.000 Right.
00:42:01.120 So when you get people that cannot stand a certain candidate and yet they say it's not this and they say this is an attack on democracy, that's a problem.
00:42:11.560 And so the left, right, the radical left, the Marxist, leftist, socialist, communist types, they want to take over the government.
00:42:19.860 And that's what's going on.
00:42:20.820 They're creating a false narrative that's very harmful to democracy.
00:42:25.420 Their narrative cannot stand the weight of the evidence.
00:42:27.920 And Joe Scarborough says, well, do you believe your lying eyes?
00:42:31.580 Well, Joe, let's see all of the footage and let's get all the evidence and let's show it right in public to everybody.
00:42:37.960 And then let's get to deductions about what our lying eyes are really seeing on that day.
00:42:44.220 OK, OK, OK, but Brett, but Brett, Brett, Brett, there's a simple thing to do here.
00:42:49.260 It's it's hard, simple, but tough.
00:42:52.680 It's Johnson's got to come back and they should have done this at the beginning of McCarthy or at least when McCarthy took over.
00:43:00.080 The House has to meet and just throw out the J6 committee.
00:43:02.780 It was totally phony.
00:43:03.580 Just throw it totally out.
00:43:05.420 That's being used in Colorado in 252 pages.
00:43:09.680 They break down.
00:43:10.800 And remember, they offered no evidence in Colorado.
00:43:13.320 They had a couple of professors come in and talk about the committee, et cetera.
00:43:16.960 You take out the committee.
00:43:18.000 They got nothing didn't at all.
00:43:20.220 That's just the law, but the predicate of how they're coming after him and throw down and say, hey, Jack Smith, if Trump's, you know, guilty of insurrection, charging.
00:43:29.640 You're supposed to be the Justice Department charging.
00:43:32.380 It's so obvious this is a scam.
00:43:34.040 Here's what they're afraid of.
00:43:34.940 They fear MAGA.
00:43:35.840 They fear this audience.
00:43:36.920 They fear your ability to vote them out and to get to the bottom of what's happening in this corrupt, illegitimate government.
00:43:44.560 OK, a short break.
00:43:45.660 We've got a whole cast of characters who are going to come on here, so just stick around.
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00:45:58.740 Court saying that this was, what happened on January 6th was an insurrection.
00:46:06.640 Look, I think January 6th was one of the worst days in American history.
00:46:10.720 And I think everybody who participated in it should be in jail for a very long time.
00:46:16.040 But the framers of the 14th Amendment, I think, knew what they meant by insurrection.
00:46:21.320 They had just been through one.
00:46:23.680 How significant was it?
00:46:25.660 Killed soldiers, leaving civilian casualties out.
00:46:30.700 Fatalities in the war among Confederate and Union soldiers were 620,000.
00:46:36.600 That's an insurrection.
00:46:39.720 What happened on January 6th was a disgrace, a stain on our country's history.
00:46:44.880 It was a riot.
00:46:46.100 It was not an insurrection.
00:46:47.420 Now, if Congress disagrees with that, they've got authority under Section 5 of the 14th Amendment to legislate, which they have certainly not rushed to do.
00:46:56.200 Okay, welcome back.
00:47:02.440 I'm going to bring Brett in.
00:47:03.580 I've got to go through this quickly.
00:47:05.140 But right there, look, some people would argue that was a failed attempt at Southern independence.
00:47:10.300 But B, as of May, 620,000.
00:47:12.540 It's John Bolton, who's a known hater of Trump.
00:47:15.960 Is he correct there, Brother Brett?
00:47:19.580 Yeah, no, and that just added evidence, right?
00:47:22.960 Bolton, and then the Wall Street Journal, kind of the globalist set, and then Dershowitz, a Democrat set, with evidence, evidence, evidence, evidence.
00:47:31.760 You know, I'd like to hook Joe Scarborough up to a lie detector test, but I think the machine might electrocute him, and I don't want to do that to my Christian brother near Christmas.
00:47:41.380 The evidence is overwhelming here.
00:47:45.060 And so, you know, all the political views are my own.
00:47:47.080 Hang on, hang on, you've been, you've been, yeah, no, I know, your political thing's your own.
00:47:51.820 And you don't speak as vice provost at Liberty.
00:47:55.620 But you were in Congress.
00:47:57.660 Why is this thing still, why is that thing still legitimate?
00:48:00.280 It wasn't a legitimate committee.
00:48:01.520 You didn't have a ranking member.
00:48:02.720 You didn't have a minority council.
00:48:04.740 You couldn't cross-examine the witnesses.
00:48:06.700 Why is this just love hanging out there?
00:48:09.060 It's like this sore, this canker that everybody's now, and knowing they couldn't, Jack Smith couldn't do it, that's why they didn't charge him.
00:48:17.060 And in Colorado, they didn't even bring in any witnesses.
00:48:20.980 They had a couple of professors talking about the theory of it and some lawyer opining to this.
00:48:25.720 You've been a member of Congress.
00:48:26.980 Why is Congress not moving on that?
00:48:29.080 Yeah, well, the answer is the Republican conference has been weak.
00:48:32.640 They always let everybody run independently.
00:48:35.020 We've never spoke with a unified voice, and we've never trained ourselves to think through the big high-level issues and focus on them.
00:48:43.160 That's the answer.
00:48:44.000 The Democrats are great at it.
00:48:45.280 They take 10 yards, and then we get in, we give them two more yards.
00:48:49.080 We don't even take yards back.
00:48:50.480 So there's just a total lack of high-level thinking for the past 30 years.
00:48:54.820 Gingrich used to provide some of that way back when, but we've been trained in to just do these little shiny object things like you always point out, and we're not putting things in order, right?
00:49:05.920 The first thing you do in economics is you look for the lowest-hanging fruit, the greatest bang for the buck, the greatest good you can do for our country.
00:49:14.860 And this is one of them because, as you've always said, this is the predicate.
00:49:18.120 If you don't have the truth set up on these initial events, which frame the conservatives as being against democracy and being the Christians as being against democracy, if you don't take that down, then they've gained half the field.
00:49:31.840 And we need to fight back.
00:49:33.820 And today, Mike, I hope Mike goes home over to Braden, comes back ready to roll.
00:49:38.340 We're going to send these clips to Mike Johnson.
00:49:40.700 Philip Patrick is going to join us next hour.
00:49:42.500 This is Ben Harnwell.
00:49:43.940 Brad's going to rejoin us.
00:49:45.220 We've got charts to go through, everything on the economy.
00:49:48.120 Capital Markets.
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00:50:07.620 Philip Patrick and I are going to talk about that and other things related to gold as a hedge in turbulent times, particularly the central banks are doing.
00:50:15.980 Raheem, we've got a couple of minutes here.
00:50:17.400 You went to the town hall last night.
00:50:19.100 I want to get to that in the second hour.
00:50:20.580 One thing that doesn't get brought up enough, you were the one, and I think Bill McGinley, you got this analysis from somebody, a document, and analyzed it.
00:50:30.420 In July of 2020, August and September, you started going around the country with me and walking through this analysis you've done by Mark Elias that laid out how they were going to steal the election.
00:50:42.720 It couldn't be more clear in how you had to wait.
00:50:45.680 There's going to be mail-in ballots.
00:50:46.980 Trump was going to be an overwhelming victor in the first night, but just wait two weeks until we count all the mail-in ballots and all the late filing mail-in ballots and all that.
00:50:56.220 Transition integrity project.
00:50:57.480 That's the whole predicate for this thing about an insurrection.
00:51:00.400 They laid out in front of us how they were going to steal this, sir.
00:51:03.500 Yes, Stephen, not just that, but I think people need to be reminded of the fact that actually between BLM, that remember used ActBlue to raise money, and Antifa, which remember had a siege of the White House, they actually ran their own insurrection round about those times.
00:51:23.960 And that was with material support from left-wing institutions, like I say, like ActBlue, material support and cover from people like Rosa Brooks, former advised George Soros, who founded the Transition Integrity Project, and material support in terms of the conversation that was being had at the time.
00:51:43.600 Go on, get in their faces, oppress them at restaurants, do all of this sort of stuff.
00:51:48.360 And so when I look at all of the narrative around insurrection today, all that comes to my mind is when we were sitting in the war room, you know, going over how the left was actually in the throes of an insurrection against the Trump administration way back when.
00:52:08.720 Now, the Transition Integrity Project was critical to all of this, and it's critical to today because what they did was that infamous war game, right?
00:52:15.940 And that war game where John Podesta played Joe Biden, his critical, critical decision at the end of that was to not concede defeat on the night of the election, was to say, no, we are going to wait a week, two weeks, count the mail-in ballots, recount the mail-in ballots, cure the ballots.
00:52:36.280 All of these mechanisms, which they ended up using in 2020, which ended up delivering the White House, unfortunately, to Joe Biden.
00:52:46.940 It was all there in black and white.
00:52:48.640 We gave it to you up front, and it's exactly what happened.
00:52:52.820 No, it's still one of the most underreported stories as you're working on this.
00:52:56.940 You can see the entire throughput.
00:52:58.840 And now they're trying to blame Trump.
00:53:00.240 Hey, if a smith's got it, bring it, dude.
00:53:03.100 The reason they won't bring it, it'll back the trial up two years.
00:53:07.560 And this is all about election interference.
00:53:09.540 Okay, in honor Rahim Kassam, we're going to go out with some great English carols.
00:53:16.200 We're going to take a short break.
00:53:17.760 Next hour, Harnwell from Rome.
00:53:19.740 Rahim's going to stick with us.
00:53:20.820 Brad's going to stick with us.
00:53:22.180 We've got Philip Patrick to talk about the economy, capital markets, all of it.
00:53:27.920 You're in the war room.
00:53:28.840 We're going to be back in about 90 seconds.
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00:53:37.740 Thou and I will see in time when we bear hands hither.
00:53:43.220 It is a monarch, forth they went, forth they went together.
00:53:48.420 Through the rude wings, while the met, and the bitter weather.
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