Bannon's War Room - Episode 3268： Protecting Our Sovereignty In 2024

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:10.560 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:17.140 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:21.300 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:24.660 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:32.480 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:39.600 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:48.100 uh it is friday 22 uh december year of lord 2023 thank you we're scrambling here to make sure

00:01:00.380 this show gets all put together so much stuff happening i want to start um and rahim's kassam

00:01:07.060 is going to join us in a second i would normally tell rahim i think the biggest story in the uh

00:01:12.640 new york times this afternoon is about the absolute epic fail of ronda santa's ground game i mean it's

00:01:18.860 pretty stunning how they put all this money into this ground game it absolutely just collapsed around

00:01:23.380 him in iowa as ronda santa starts to fade from political memory here but the biggest news uh breaking

00:01:30.540 story in the new york times earlier today and we were going to try to get tony in in the morning show

00:01:34.560 as a scoop but uh we just couldn't pull it off tony lions is tony lions joins us now as everybody knows

00:01:42.580 tony lions uh runs sky horse uh the founder of the ceo uh the driving force and back of it we have

00:01:49.440 our partnership and we're in books with sky horse tony's fantastic he's published so many other great

00:01:54.820 books naomi wolf naomi's going to join us a little while but the the bobby kennedy books his new book

00:02:00.060 on the wuhan lab wow blockbuster so many you're really the lead cutting edge on medical freedom but

00:02:05.020 today a massive announcement you acquired regnery which is for people that are conservatives

00:02:10.120 is kind of the the best brand in in conservative books tony talk to us about it and what can we

00:02:16.460 expect in the future now that you uh own regular and can infuse some capital into it yeah i mean my

00:02:23.800 feeling is that uh conservative books are being you know kept out of bookstores off bestseller lists

00:02:30.600 they're not getting reviewed in major newspapers uh you know so there's been this war on conservative

00:02:38.060 writing conservative thinking and that's not what's supposed to happen in a democracy so we're not

00:02:45.440 going to let that stand we're going to fight it we're going to get these books back onto the bookshelves

00:02:50.900 and you know if people think that uh their ideas are better if the new york times thinks that the ideas

00:02:58.140 that they have are better you know they should let those ideas stand up in the marketplace of ideas

00:03:03.820 they don't need to censor these books they can contradict them you know there should be dialogue

00:03:08.900 and debate and you know the best argument ought to win and so i'm thrilled and proud to take over this

00:03:16.520 publishing company it's a legendary company it's been around for 75 years it's published you know some

00:03:22.540 of the most important conservative writers it's got donald trump's uh book from 2015 that we're going to do

00:03:30.160 a new version of uh hopefully you'll write a forward to it it's got senator rand paul's recent book

00:03:36.560 ted cruz's book tulsi gabbard's books uh and culture's books so you know lots of really important books

00:03:44.480 and you know i'm just excited to have the opportunity to help you know push this brand

00:03:50.680 into the future and not let these people get away with censoring and propaganda

00:03:56.820 you know we're gonna have naomi here in in a while and i'll ask her this also but you know

00:04:04.560 you're a classic kind of new york city liberal right believer in civil liberties and all that

00:04:10.400 but it's the the democrat party and particularly the intellectual class of liberals and now progressives

00:04:15.340 are about shutting things down but you're the leader you have heroically published so many of the great

00:04:20.780 titles on medical freedom of which nobody wanted to touch and quite frankly banned you're you're the war

00:04:25.520 rooms uh publisher with with our imprint you now have regnery how does a guy who's a new and i know

00:04:32.160 you very well tony's as solid as they get but how's a guy that goes from kind of a classic new york

00:04:37.320 liberal um that you know i'm not sure you know the world exists outside of new york city sometimes

00:04:43.200 kidding how do you go to now be one of the the biggest your sky horse is now arguably the biggest

00:04:50.740 publisher of conservative or maga or you can even argue right-wing anti-establishment uh books

00:04:57.280 well i i think that the you know democratic party um used to believe that ideas should be you know

00:05:08.220 open and free that books should be dangerous and disturbing and thought-provoking and and that's

00:05:14.600 what i believe and that's what i still believe so it's just that the democratic party has changed

00:05:20.740 and the republican party has taken over many of the values that used to be democratic party values

00:05:28.280 and those are you know values of real freedom of freedom of speech of medical freedom of all kinds

00:05:35.440 of freedom and you know that's what i stand for and i don't care what you call it

00:05:40.400 you've got i just want to talk about the 24 slate because this is huge news for because a lot of

00:05:47.580 people we can tell you a lot of people in the conservative movement have a tough time getting

00:05:51.800 their books published or an imprint to get editors and do all the kind of hard work you need to do to

00:05:56.540 get a book ready and one of the reasons just lack of resources i think that's what's so amazing

00:06:00.460 about sky horse stepping in here but you've got ran you got a rand paul book you have a tulsi gabbard book

00:06:05.380 what else can people look forward to in 24 that you know now that they can see under the regnery

00:06:11.420 imprint yeah one of the things we're going to do is we're going to do new editions of many of the

00:06:16.700 great books that they've done i don't have a sense of the full list and we're definitely going to do some

00:06:21.660 instant books uh like i said we're going to do a new edition of of trump's book um but the main thing

00:06:28.120 is that you know people should be able to read to think uh you know anything that they want and we

00:06:35.240 don't need the government telling us what to do what to think what to read or what to put into our

00:06:40.900 bodies and for me that's a big part of what sky horse stands for and what i think regnery stands for

00:06:48.320 too so i you know when i when i look at lots of the recent regnery titles i see they could be sky horse

00:06:54.460 titles and you know many of the authors are the same many of the blurbs on the books are the same

00:07:00.500 so i think this is a great combination and we're going to make sure that conservative publishing

00:07:07.460 you know is alive and free in america and that you know half the population gets represented in

00:07:15.940 bookstores and in the media and what you see is that you know conservative media really is doing well

00:07:22.820 now you know the washington post is laying off people but you know many places like the war room

00:07:28.380 are doing really well so i think that's what the future is that people are tired of being lied to

00:07:34.340 and they want media venues that are going to tell them the truth that are going to let them see the

00:07:41.120 full spectrum of ideas and decide for themselves what they believe

00:07:45.060 uh tony we're going to put the new york times and the press release all of it out and push it out hard

00:07:52.360 uh where do people get to you to find out more about this your social media where they go for uh to

00:07:56.780 get to uh to get to skyhorse yeah the best place is skyhorsepublishing.com or they can get in touch

00:08:04.200 with me personally at tony lions is uncertain on instagram tony lions is uncertain that's one thing we

00:08:13.380 know you're not tony lions uh thank you great acquisition uh another marker along the along the

00:08:19.520 journey sir thank you thanks so much okay rahim's uh gonna join us now i want to pivot to politics

00:08:26.280 rahim or get to ideas in a second i want to ask you about regnery because i know you know the

00:08:30.200 publisher well also the mediate list but let me start with the mundane first uh you guys have been

00:08:36.680 all over this probably better than most this de santa situation it tweets out today he's pulling i guess

00:08:43.820 the tv ads or new hampshire and additional ads in um in iowa the new york times has a brutal story

00:08:52.360 of uh and i think outside the regnery acquisition the most important story of the afternoon about how

00:08:57.600 they put all this money and i mean tens of millions of dollars into this ground game they're going to

00:09:02.760 knock on every door in all 99 uh counties it's trying to be an epic fail what give us an update on what

00:09:08.720 you're learning i know you got sources what does this mean and uh what does it mean more broadly

00:09:14.280 about these political campaigns well look steve it goes to show that there isn't really a shortcut

00:09:21.780 um in in muggle world there isn't a shortcut to charisma there isn't a shortcut to being a populist 0.80

00:09:27.880 you can you can throw as much money at it as you'd like tens of millions of dollars in in de

00:09:33.420 santis and never back downs case um you can set up field operations all over iowa you could have a

00:09:39.340 an office on every street corner um you could be endorsed by some of the most um famous political

00:09:46.300 grifters in the state you can pay them for their endorsements you can travel around uh the entirety

00:09:52.480 of the state you can visit all the counties multiple times uh with the governor but it doesn't mean

00:09:57.500 anything unless you are a candidate that embodies the principles of maga people can see through it

00:10:03.960 pretty easily uh one of the things uh the the maga base has come to learn over the last several years

00:10:10.020 is that there are a lot of uh fakers there are a lot of phonies there are a lot of pretenders there

00:10:15.120 are a lot of people who will cozy up to donald trump rub shoulders with donald trump they'll buy the

00:10:20.340 expensive tickets to mar-a-lago they want the picture they put on their campaign literature but when it

00:10:25.200 comes down to voting and whether that is at a local level whether it is at a national level

00:10:29.760 uh everywhere you look at it the maga base has learned to realize um who is real and who is not

00:10:35.920 and it's quite simple there are very few real ones out there and some of the ones that you even thought

00:10:42.000 were real for a long time end up trying to sell you out somewhere down the line because you know the

00:10:46.680 inducement gets too attractive um or the compromise gets too large so this is what's happened to ron de

00:10:53.340 santis is that people remember ron de santis who put out ads who stood on stages with donald trump

00:10:59.980 who thanked him who congratulated him who called himself in his own ads you know a pitbull trump

00:11:07.620 defender that's what it said pitbull trump defender and both the conscious and the subconscious

00:11:13.920 juxtaposition that is going on in the voters mind especially in the early states is how do you go from

00:11:19.620 being a pitbull trump defender when you need the votes of the maga base in florida to going on

00:11:24.740 television saying yeah no i'm not actually gonna step down from the colorado primary if they continue

00:11:30.960 to try and take him off the ballot yeah i'm not going to support this man against his phony political

00:11:36.760 indictments you know all of these things create a new vision of de santis that that he could he could

00:11:43.360 stand in front of you in fact if he stood in front of you all day long lecturing you on his position

00:11:47.860 he'd probably be turned off or they'd be turned on but he could stand in front of you all day long

00:11:52.860 and try to convince you and try to convince you try to convince you it doesn't mean anything when the

00:11:57.120 character of the person that you're trying to display does not match up with your action that's ron

00:12:02.500 de santis um isn't also in policy i mean when de santis actually start started running it was just

00:12:12.100 basically i mean he really didn't run to the right of trump there's an argument to be made as some of the

00:12:17.240 stuff he had on the vaccine maybe but he never bobby kennedy kind of came into the to his own

00:12:22.460 primary democratic and took that wind over sails and de santis never really i didn't think pressed

00:12:27.080 the vax or other issues out there but it wasn't really running to the right of trump it was just

00:12:31.740 it was just trump light with ron de santis and why is that an argument why would you ever why if you

00:12:38.240 had to make the choice why would anybody take de santis over trump when he was kind of a

00:12:44.240 milquetoast version of the same trump policies and and much of it like in ukraine and others

00:12:49.080 kind of fell back to be quite frankly neoliberal neocon maybe not as bad as nikki haley

00:12:53.740 but you just didn't see any difference why why support this guy

00:12:57.320 yeah look if you if you launch your campaign the way he did right which is you know i get it there

00:13:04.100 was a there was a he was trying to have a cool moment by doing on x with with elon musk but it failed

00:13:09.320 it failed miserably um and that wasn't even really the campaign launch the real campaign launch people

00:13:13.960 forget was in was in the was it the donor reception the billionaire donor reception at the four seasons

00:13:19.480 in miami that was the real campaign launch and when that's how you want to launch your campaign

00:13:23.700 instead of like a big speech instead of you know to fanfare all of this it kind of it kind of sets the

00:13:30.280 tone for the rest of the thing then obviously you look at the types of people he's hired i won't i

00:13:35.820 won't get personal about it but i know all of a lot of them personally and i wouldn't trust many

00:13:40.860 of them to run a bath for me let alone run a political campaign um but i like to i like to

00:13:47.420 think of the desantis stuff you know especially because of what you just mentioned right running

00:13:52.220 to the right the vaccine stuff it's i like to think of it in the following way data if you ask people

00:13:58.500 and we've done this story a number of times because i always like to check myself right my perhaps

00:14:03.800 instincts are not good enough in this circumstance i've found that they have been good enough every

00:14:08.680 single time the the top stories are immigration the border economy um you know several other things

00:14:17.720 in a list and you go down it and even the turning point straw poll what was last on it last priority

00:14:23.640 woke and dei well what was desantis's big thing when he came out woke and dei was woke okay hang

00:14:31.480 here for one second we're gonna take a short break rahim's gonna stick with us for the hour

00:14:34.680 at naomi wolf is on deck short break back in a moment

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00:16:19.060 okay welcome back merry christmas friday 22 december year of our lord 2023

00:16:46.120 do we class ourselves up when we get raheem on here with that that clipped british accent

00:16:53.900 did raheem have we have a very raheem help with the music selections we're going to find that out

00:16:59.040 here in a moment um fascinating conversation by the way yesterday morning with raheem ben harnwell

00:17:05.520 dave bratt about uh a civilization that has um confidence and you see that in the music of the

00:17:12.940 19th and 18th century uh naomi wolf naomi first off i i just want to because you kind of our classic

00:17:20.360 liberal tony lyons is believer in civil liberties tony lyons has now become i think the most heroic

00:17:26.380 of all the publishers in the book industry and one of the reasons i love tony tony loves books

00:17:31.400 he believes books are necessary to drive ideas and one of the things i keep saying about young people

00:17:36.820 today or people the phone has made them so that they can't read books and hold the argument of a

00:17:43.020 book in its its head but your thoughts about tony lyons and skyhorse given you've put out a couple

00:17:48.340 three quite controversial books over the last couple of years talk to me about it it's it's such a such a

00:17:56.240 turning point in american culture it's so indicative of the abandonment of the field of um real publishing

00:18:04.680 real media by the left that this classical liberal publisher uh has snatched up one of these legacy

00:18:11.640 conservative publishing houses it's incredible it's also a good business move um so first let me speak

00:18:18.740 to the cultural shift basically what's happening right now in publishing um if people are not aware

00:18:24.880 and there's no reason they should be because it's very kind of um domestic infighting is that publishing

00:18:31.100 houses are rebelling uh the staff are rebelling in a woke way against promoting publicizing um doing

00:18:40.120 their jobs in relationship to conservative or even quote-unquote controversial um titles and so over

00:18:48.020 and it's it's made uh legacy publishing incredibly precarious um for instance one of our commentators

00:18:54.060 a daily cloud jj carroll he has a wonderful book about the open border and his publisher kind of

00:19:00.580 legacy publisher kind of freaked out um when it came time to bring it to market because there was

00:19:05.660 resistance among the ranks this has happened over and over even to like biographies of people of

00:19:11.740 legendary names that got caught up in sort of me too issues or um in some way cross that invisible

00:19:19.460 always shifting tripwire of woke third railness right uh the staff will say we can't do it we're

00:19:25.580 not going to promote it and then there goes a giant advance or you know the book can't get to market

00:19:31.600 so legacy media has become insane and counterproductive uh and as a result not only just to make a decent

00:19:40.660 pipeline of books to market but also as a as a as a kind of ability to bring ideas to market

00:19:48.740 sky horse's move is really telling and important um because by by getting regnery which is this kind

00:19:54.880 of well-established legendary house saving it from being acquired by simon and schuster or random house

00:20:01.320 there are literally only four big legacy publishing um conglomerates left um basically they're saving

00:20:08.680 conservative ideas but they're also saving independent ideas um and now i'm going to go to

00:20:14.340 why it makes good business sense and and you know like disclosure sky horse is publishing us too you

00:20:20.820 guys are publishing us too nonetheless i still think this is a fantastic business move because the left

00:20:26.880 is becoming meaning the legacy media is becoming so orthodox um and so rigid in their thinking that

00:20:32.880 look at what is conservative right or even sky horse you guys aren't just publishing um you know right

00:20:39.920 wing maga republican titles you're publishing people like dark eon futurism ai this should transcend

00:20:49.360 everybody's ideology as a really important subject you know you're publishing the wuhan cover-up

00:20:55.820 super important public interest subject that's not partisan you know by rfk jr or sky horses um

00:21:02.660 you're as you mentioned sky horse is publishing medical freedom books you're publishing our

00:21:07.660 pfizer papers in april uh gigantic non-partisan effort by a group of totally non-partisan selfless

00:21:16.680 doctors and scientists to tell the world what's in the pfizer documents now what's in their bodies

00:21:22.120 um so arguably the the left has become so i don't want to use a vulgar term but self-referential

00:21:30.340 to to substitute for a vulgar term and and self-regarding and brittle intellectually that the

00:21:36.820 whole field of important ideas has been abandoned and sky horse is moving in daily cloud is moving in

00:21:43.400 the war room has already moved in um you know i would say arguably arguably your own slate and the

00:21:48.760 appeal of your your podcast you know you're not doing like rigid partisan uh guests you're doing a

00:21:55.060 whole host of relevant people who are bringing ideas to the fore that don't accord with the legacy

00:21:59.900 media narrative and that is the legacy media narrative is so co-opted that that is now the center of

00:22:05.380 cultural debate has shifted to these independent news sites and publishing houses and thank god i think

00:22:11.380 that that's going to be a counterbalance to the scaled up efforts we see all around us um of these

00:22:18.380 globalists to censor i want to i know we came on talking about christmas i'm gonna try i gotta get to

00:22:25.040 that the next couple days with you because um we're jammed for time but i gotta ask you this because

00:22:31.460 i gotta say and you know i'm a voracious reader one of the most nuts books i've read in 2023 or in any

00:22:41.320 year put up by a major publishing house is and i don't want to say this i don't want this to be

00:22:46.440 misinterpreted by media matters which i know be is the obsessed the obsession and stalking of naomi wolf by

00:22:53.980 naomi klein no i mean it is i just got a copy to go through it it's insane i mean the part about me

00:23:00.740 is nothing compared i mean there is this bizarre i know your husband is a special forces guy and a

00:23:06.980 pretty tough hombre but man oh man how could a major publishing house and you think about it in normal

00:23:12.420 times this would be insane to publish this nobody would put that book out it's like somebody that's

00:23:17.720 it's like in a basement that gets all weirded out in a midlife crisis and kind of picks this woman

00:23:23.500 who has a similar name and a fairly similar career and it's the book's a stalker's manual is it not

00:23:29.880 um i still haven't read it i'm trying to get through my life never actually reading it um but you know

00:23:38.120 i've certainly read enough excerpts that are very very disturbing you know i can't avoid it because it

00:23:43.160 was just coming over my feed featured in the new york times and you know i wrote a piece acknowledging

00:23:48.680 just from what i read classic stalker behavior i mean classic definition of a certain subset of

00:23:54.940 stalkers i'll just say it um well i don't want to say it but it's a it's a when people obsess about

00:24:02.180 someone um follow their appearances imagine that they have a relationship with them which they don't

00:24:09.080 i gather i've said things to her that i have never said to any any memory i have in my whole life um

00:24:17.180 this has this is a classic stalker profile and people don't need to be um physically threatening my

00:24:24.020 husband doesn't think she's a physical threat to me but uh it is threatening um that her followers uh 0.97

00:24:30.200 may you know pick up on the very othering very objectifying very obsessive antagonistic

00:24:38.580 um tone she takes from me and i do want to know that the new york times it totally improperly ran a 0.99

00:24:45.100 piece in which she was meditating on doppelgangers being killed by their you know others meaning that

00:24:52.720 would be me being killed in her scenario and the new york times ran a an illustration for this op-ed

00:24:58.880 that showed a wolf or a dog that looks like a wolf it's unclear being strangled with blood coming out of

00:25:05.260 its mouth so you know you and i get all kinds of threats all day long so does anyone no no no no

00:25:11.780 no no no coincidence no coincidence is it a wolf look at that they're strangling a wolf it's kind

00:25:18.720 of creepy so you know what can we make of this i think you're right like it goes to the our earlier

00:25:23.640 conversation a minute ago about tony lyons and regnery and skyhorse and war room um never in a million

00:25:30.600 years before the co-option thoroughgoing co-option of publishing on the left legacy media would any

00:25:37.120 lawyer have allowed a psycho book you know obsessing about a public figure to be released it would have

00:25:43.920 destroyed their reputation but um i found the money flow uh which is farma is the back it's in back of

00:25:51.080 this yes well you also found with her husband we got about i want the book on the other side though

00:25:57.140 talk about your book that's out uh and uh i want to make sure everybody gets a chance because it's

00:26:02.260 it's really a shout out to the war room posse and kind of the journey you've gone through kind of a

00:26:06.700 sequel to the first book walk us through it where people get it where can people get all your writings

00:26:11.160 and everything you're working on so much to go through with you so much happening so um that was

00:26:16.980 you know the bad miomi and her bad book this is the good the good book and it's called facing the

00:26:22.280 beast and the mirror image um in a positive way and it in the subtitle is courage faith and resistance

00:26:29.280 in a new dark age and it really does tell the story of this incredible journey we've all taken together

00:26:35.320 in the last two years um with the posse with war room with the work of the war room daily club pfizer

00:26:42.040 documents volunteers and um how they basically saved humanity uh or we all saved humanity all of our

00:26:48.600 efforts um and it's also kind of my my personal journey from being exiled by the left best thing

00:26:54.460 that ever happened to me um new conversations with um people like you people like tucker carlson

00:26:59.600 uh libertarians and conservatives and people of faith across you know quote unquote the rest of

00:27:05.220 america once i got ejected from the bubble of the legacy media left um and so how i realized that a lot

00:27:12.080 of things i believed uh were based on lies um and there's a chapter called dear conservatives i

00:27:18.400 apologize uh and and lastly it's also journey of faith because i do think we're living you know

00:27:23.700 we've shifted since 2020 into not ordinary history and we're living kind of a biblical history and i go

00:27:29.640 into my thoughts about that wow christmas gift by the way okay uh it's fabulous i want everybody to go

00:27:35.860 there daily clout you got naomi we're your social media up naomi thank you very much

00:27:40.340 thank you christmas ma'am happy hanukkah happy holidays all of it

00:27:45.160 now we will for real warrior okay um rahim's going to come back we're getting to this i got dr

00:27:54.220 thayer we'll spend a couple minutes dr thayer dr thayer one of the principal architects of the

00:27:59.860 anti-ccp movement in our nation and how they've tried to shut down guys like dr thayer

00:28:04.980 all next in the war room

00:28:06.100 welcome back war room on a friday

00:28:28.380 grow up to christmas dr thayer i just want to get you on for a minute or two i know you're jammed and

00:28:33.860 you took time away to do this i appreciate it because tony like uh we've got a big project we're

00:28:38.900 working on with you and captain jim for now we'll announce that uh at the beginning of the year but

00:28:43.580 i want to go back it's just not this um shutting down of voices i mean you're one of the most prominent

00:28:49.300 thoughtful uh strategists and analysts of of of the chinese communist party the chinese military

00:28:55.780 yet when i look at you and others there has been this massive massive development over the last year

00:29:02.180 to a couple of years to basically shut down the voices that are prepared to call out the ccp and 1.00

00:29:06.920 talk about the dangers we face as a nation from an institution and organization that is the single 1.00

00:29:13.940 most existential threat to the united states sir indeed it is uh steve and and that's how totalitarian

00:29:23.400 states operate uh they don't want to have any criticism they don't want to have any analysis and

00:29:28.680 they don't want uh any effective balancing against them any response uh against them so they've worked

00:29:36.080 very hard to penetrate uh the ideas industry and have done so spectacularly successfully we can think

00:29:42.820 about film where they put pressure on legendary film steve you know that from your time in hollywood how

00:29:48.380 uh the prc penetrated hollywood uh they put pressure on cambridge university press and cambridge

00:29:54.440 university uh so uh they put pressure on universities and and uh media of course and have done so again

00:30:02.640 incredibly successfully uh because what do they do they offer money uh and with that comes a tremendous

00:30:09.880 influence and so what just just tell the audience how bad academia is i mean guys like yourself used to

00:30:17.560 be and used to have a robust part of academia of of just of teaching kids and going to seminars and

00:30:23.680 conferences they're getting rid of a whole generation oh there i'm right there a whole

00:30:27.600 generation of guys like yourself that are giving the other side of the coin about decoupling and

00:30:33.420 taking on the ccp absolutely and that's the point it's a decapitation strategy right they want to 1.00

00:30:39.880 separate uh any uh effective strategy against them uh and thus limit uh its effectiveness and so it's

00:30:48.040 not a surprise that it's very difficult in american universities to be anti-ccp uh because ccp is 1.00

00:30:55.240 providing money to universities uh around and to think tanks uh and that's simply uh they owned if

00:31:02.360 you will the battle space uh very significantly this is why your work and tony lyons's work

00:31:08.120 providing avenues uh for individuals to publish that offer the truth uh and that offer ideas that will

00:31:16.740 allow us to respond to uh the ccp's tyranny is extremely uh is so important uh and uh and and welcome 1.00

00:31:25.080 and well overdue because presses were cowed as well as found philanthropic foundations were

00:31:33.200 uh but uh and our media steve as you well know again because of the money uh and because to some degree

00:31:41.540 of the uh ideological convergence uh between many of our elites and the ccp uh means that there's only 0.98

00:31:49.460 one product right there's only one attitude one approach uh towards the ccp and that's the engagement 0.97

00:31:55.880 school right we need to sustain trade we need to sustain investment nothing can affect that that's the

00:32:01.920 11th commandment right moses did brought down an 11th commandment and that was the engagement school

00:32:08.600 right you got to invest in trade amazing uh and where do people where do where do where do people

00:32:17.140 go to get your writings we'll do more of this between christmas and uh and new year where where

00:32:21.060 do people go over the holiday over the christmas break uh to get to your writings get your thoughts

00:32:26.620 uh brad thayer uh brad thayer at x and brad thayer at getter and truth thanks very much steve merry christmas

00:32:32.740 merry christmas dr thayer is one of the leaders of that group of the decoupling and the conflict

00:32:39.600 taking on and confronting the chinese county's party from a realist point of view you're seeing

00:32:44.080 those voices shut down academia think tanks all of it um and that's why we're so proud of him as one

00:32:51.140 of the contributors here so rahim you've got charlie kirk giving this interview to alex marlowe saying

00:32:57.160 that hey they've been notified by fox that no fox personnel can come to amfest you went there for

00:33:04.080 the first time uh and you went out with the war and we really appreciate you coming with us

00:33:08.060 give us your thoughts i mean you you see this they got the new mediate list

00:33:12.520 you you guys have done a great job at national polls to try to be independent not be dependent upon

00:33:18.760 either conservative media or more importantly conservative donors just walk me through all

00:33:23.400 your thoughts right now as this gets to be i think one of the most important the information

00:33:27.600 warfare part of this is going to be so important uh ending 23 and going into 24

00:33:33.120 well i hope you don't mind me recalling this story steve but i remember being in the war room with you a

00:33:39.620 couple of years ago i think this was before the the 2020 election and uh and i said to you i'm not gonna

00:33:46.740 go on fox anymore i'm not gonna uh respond to their bookers and their producers when they try and have me

00:33:52.560 on i'm i'm sick of them i'm sick of everything and you you said to me at the time i don't think

00:33:57.620 you can give up an audience as big as fox news right now but it was coming it was always coming

00:34:02.440 this this this attitude this shift uh this spitting in the face i remember that hang on hang on what

00:34:08.200 what was that what was that what was that fight over i remember that you had just you had been a

00:34:12.640 co-host when we started war room impeachment and for the first you know first six months or so

00:34:16.760 then you got to just start national polls because you were on fox all the time and i think you're

00:34:21.260 on laura ingham you're on tucker a lot what what what was the what was the throwdown about

00:34:25.120 no i don't even recall a particular moment it just become a very fractious relationship where

00:34:31.180 they were sort of yeah and and as you probably know i don't like these three or four minute hits

00:34:36.400 you can't really get anything out i don't like sitting on the panels with other guests

00:34:39.880 things like that and it just got to a position where they're they're they were squashing voices

00:34:45.020 that were even notionally pro donald trump they were squashing populist nationalist voices

00:34:49.780 they were making mockeries of people you know the way you you alluded to it at the cowboy church

00:34:54.560 the other day but the way they treated matt gates as the whole mccarthy thing was going down they

00:34:58.960 weren't just calling him you know ill-mannered or or not having a plan you know they were implying on

00:35:05.300 on national television that he was a sex trafficker and and and and you know a couple of years ago

00:35:11.200 i just saw this this whole thing coming with arena bugranti and the team over there at fox 0.72

00:35:16.180 they hate you they hate all of us they hate anybody that loves america they hate um the idea of

00:35:24.220 nationalism because it's it's inherently a a globalist corporate structure you have to understand the

00:35:30.340 background to all of this as well ladies and gentlemen you know rupert murdoch partnered with

00:35:34.540 mark zuckerberg 10 years ago on the project for a new american economy this was designed to mass

00:35:41.080 import cheap migrant labor into the united states and you stand in the way of that and so it's it's

00:35:46.540 one thing for them they've made their money off you they made their money off trump uh they did all

00:35:51.500 that and now and now they're coming for you right that's that's what this whole plan has been about and

00:35:55.880 so i welcome it i welcome what charlie's done i welcome your position uh on on what you call you 0.97

00:36:01.180 know television for stupid people um and i think it needs it needs to be brought brought down and 0.93

00:36:05.980 i mean i'd say a notch or two i'd say a notch or 10 yeah you you are very familiar you went with us 0.99

00:36:13.200 for years to to cpac tell me about your thoughts about your first amfest energy ideas all of it

00:36:19.500 yeah amazing amazing i i really you know i loved the early cpac days uh 10 000 people um magnificent

00:36:28.760 stages speakers packed exhibitor booths all of that kind of thing and this really this really brought me

00:36:34.600 back there um what they've done not just in terms of production value but in terms of the energy in

00:36:40.520 the room yeah i think this year uh it's gonna say this is gonna sound so bad but this year women 1.00

00:36:47.040 overtook men as attendees for the first time at the turning point conference that has never happened at

00:36:51.900 a conservative conference that i've ever been to before trust me we know especially was uh when i was

00:36:56.560 in my mid-20s hanging around these things we knew what the um what the ratio was like there and so

00:37:02.660 it's attracting massively different groups of people massively energized groups of people and

00:37:07.220 it's not just giving them the kind of rah-rah speeches up there on the main stage it's actually

00:37:11.960 i've found so much and so many people coming away with so much detail about policy so much detail about

00:37:18.460 what they can do on the ground so much detail about how they can get involved and and that's what

00:37:22.980 was always been missing not just from like cpacs going back you know 10 15 years but but from the

00:37:28.620 broader conservative movement and it's it's it's gatekeeping right in a way a lot of the dc

00:37:33.960 uh consultant class political class they don't actually want ordinary americans involved in this

00:37:39.260 stuff they want to take your money for your tickets they want you to buy things from the

00:37:42.480 exhibitor booths but they don't actually want you involved in their in their dynamics this changes all

00:37:47.520 of that firstly it's not in washington dc which is a massive massive boon to it uh secondly it is

00:37:52.480 designed to bring people in not just bring their money in and keep them out and i i think it was

00:37:57.620 phenomenal uh real quick give me a couple of minutes on how important this uh reg regnery

00:38:04.160 acquisition by uh sky horses well it's huge for me because no-go zones was with regnery books back

00:38:10.540 in 2017 so i'm hoping we could do a follow-up on that whether it's a no-go zones down at the american

00:38:15.460 border or maybe we need to revisit europe and do an update on it um but but but it's a huge publisher

00:38:20.980 it's got a huge back catalog i think tony there was being being rather modest about its back catalog but

00:38:27.000 it's it's it's massive i know a lot of the folks over there they're great folks uh and have have

00:38:31.480 historically done a decent job of of of providing top quality well edited content for the audience

00:38:38.420 but as you as you know you know books are hard to sell books are hard to um to convince younger

00:38:43.700 people especially uh to dive into so excited about the fact that this has been given a new lease of

00:38:49.140 life and excited about the fact um that that it's that it's not going to be just another one of these

00:38:54.980 um publishers that that overly you know when no-go zones came out it was a bestseller and the

00:38:59.800 new york times kept it off the bestseller list they they even outright said we're keeping this

00:39:03.780 off the bestseller list editorially we just can't put a book like this on there even though it's sold

00:39:08.000 enough copies uh to get on there so hopefully uh this change in this change in ownership this change

00:39:13.200 in direction will kind of force a lot of those guys to buck their ideas up and say well you know

00:39:17.340 these guys are selling 10 15 000 copies of a book the first week out maybe we better feature them in

00:39:22.700 our list we'll see uh raheem you uh you're going to be back in the worm on tuesday to do your annual

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00:40:17.400 raheem thank you very much uh merry christmas brother and uh merry christmas to uh to seeing

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Bannon's War Room - December 23, 2023

Episode 3268： Protecting Our Sovereignty In 2024

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