Episode 3268： Protecting Our Sovereignty In 2024
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In this episode of War Room, we discuss the epic failure of Ronda santa's ground game, the impending takeover of Skyhorse by the New York Times, and the takeover of the conservative publishing company Regnery.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
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where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
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is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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uh it is friday 22 uh december year of lord 2023 thank you we're scrambling here to make sure
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this show gets all put together so much stuff happening i want to start um and rahim's kassam
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is going to join us in a second i would normally tell rahim i think the biggest story in the uh
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new york times this afternoon is about the absolute epic fail of ronda santa's ground game i mean it's
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pretty stunning how they put all this money into this ground game it absolutely just collapsed around
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him in iowa as ronda santa starts to fade from political memory here but the biggest news uh breaking
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story in the new york times earlier today and we were going to try to get tony in in the morning show
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as a scoop but uh we just couldn't pull it off tony lions is tony lions joins us now as everybody knows
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tony lions uh runs sky horse uh the founder of the ceo uh the driving force and back of it we have
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our partnership and we're in books with sky horse tony's fantastic he's published so many other great
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books naomi wolf naomi's going to join us a little while but the the bobby kennedy books his new book
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on the wuhan lab wow blockbuster so many you're really the lead cutting edge on medical freedom but
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today a massive announcement you acquired regnery which is for people that are conservatives
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is kind of the the best brand in in conservative books tony talk to us about it and what can we
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expect in the future now that you uh own regular and can infuse some capital into it yeah i mean my
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feeling is that uh conservative books are being you know kept out of bookstores off bestseller lists
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they're not getting reviewed in major newspapers uh you know so there's been this war on conservative
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writing conservative thinking and that's not what's supposed to happen in a democracy so we're not
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going to let that stand we're going to fight it we're going to get these books back onto the bookshelves
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and you know if people think that uh their ideas are better if the new york times thinks that the ideas
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that they have are better you know they should let those ideas stand up in the marketplace of ideas
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they don't need to censor these books they can contradict them you know there should be dialogue
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and debate and you know the best argument ought to win and so i'm thrilled and proud to take over this
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publishing company it's a legendary company it's been around for 75 years it's published you know some
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of the most important conservative writers it's got donald trump's uh book from 2015 that we're going to do
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a new version of uh hopefully you'll write a forward to it it's got senator rand paul's recent book
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ted cruz's book tulsi gabbard's books uh and culture's books so you know lots of really important books
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and you know i'm just excited to have the opportunity to help you know push this brand
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into the future and not let these people get away with censoring and propaganda
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you know we're gonna have naomi here in in a while and i'll ask her this also but you know
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you're a classic kind of new york city liberal right believer in civil liberties and all that
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but it's the the democrat party and particularly the intellectual class of liberals and now progressives
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are about shutting things down but you're the leader you have heroically published so many of the great
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titles on medical freedom of which nobody wanted to touch and quite frankly banned you're you're the war
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rooms uh publisher with with our imprint you now have regnery how does a guy who's a new and i know
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you very well tony's as solid as they get but how's a guy that goes from kind of a classic new york
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liberal um that you know i'm not sure you know the world exists outside of new york city sometimes
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kidding how do you go to now be one of the the biggest your sky horse is now arguably the biggest
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publisher of conservative or maga or you can even argue right-wing anti-establishment uh books
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well i i think that the you know democratic party um used to believe that ideas should be you know
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open and free that books should be dangerous and disturbing and thought-provoking and and that's
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what i believe and that's what i still believe so it's just that the democratic party has changed
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and the republican party has taken over many of the values that used to be democratic party values
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and those are you know values of real freedom of freedom of speech of medical freedom of all kinds
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of freedom and you know that's what i stand for and i don't care what you call it
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you've got i just want to talk about the 24 slate because this is huge news for because a lot of
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people we can tell you a lot of people in the conservative movement have a tough time getting
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their books published or an imprint to get editors and do all the kind of hard work you need to do to
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get a book ready and one of the reasons just lack of resources i think that's what's so amazing
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about sky horse stepping in here but you've got ran you got a rand paul book you have a tulsi gabbard book
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what else can people look forward to in 24 that you know now that they can see under the regnery
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imprint yeah one of the things we're going to do is we're going to do new editions of many of the
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great books that they've done i don't have a sense of the full list and we're definitely going to do some
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instant books uh like i said we're going to do a new edition of of trump's book um but the main thing
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is that you know people should be able to read to think uh you know anything that they want and we
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don't need the government telling us what to do what to think what to read or what to put into our
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bodies and for me that's a big part of what sky horse stands for and what i think regnery stands for
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too so i you know when i when i look at lots of the recent regnery titles i see they could be sky horse
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titles and you know many of the authors are the same many of the blurbs on the books are the same
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so i think this is a great combination and we're going to make sure that conservative publishing
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you know is alive and free in america and that you know half the population gets represented in
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bookstores and in the media and what you see is that you know conservative media really is doing well
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now you know the washington post is laying off people but you know many places like the war room
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are doing really well so i think that's what the future is that people are tired of being lied to
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and they want media venues that are going to tell them the truth that are going to let them see the
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full spectrum of ideas and decide for themselves what they believe
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uh tony we're going to put the new york times and the press release all of it out and push it out hard
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uh where do people get to you to find out more about this your social media where they go for uh to
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get to uh to get to skyhorse yeah the best place is skyhorsepublishing.com or they can get in touch
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with me personally at tony lions is uncertain on instagram tony lions is uncertain that's one thing we
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know you're not tony lions uh thank you great acquisition uh another marker along the along the
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journey sir thank you thanks so much okay rahim's uh gonna join us now i want to pivot to politics
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rahim or get to ideas in a second i want to ask you about regnery because i know you know the
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publisher well also the mediate list but let me start with the mundane first uh you guys have been
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all over this probably better than most this de santa situation it tweets out today he's pulling i guess
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the tv ads or new hampshire and additional ads in um in iowa the new york times has a brutal story
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of uh and i think outside the regnery acquisition the most important story of the afternoon about how
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they put all this money and i mean tens of millions of dollars into this ground game they're going to
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knock on every door in all 99 uh counties it's trying to be an epic fail what give us an update on what
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you're learning i know you got sources what does this mean and uh what does it mean more broadly
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about these political campaigns well look steve it goes to show that there isn't really a shortcut
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um in in muggle world there isn't a shortcut to charisma there isn't a shortcut to being a populist
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you can you can throw as much money at it as you'd like tens of millions of dollars in in de
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santis and never back downs case um you can set up field operations all over iowa you could have a
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an office on every street corner um you could be endorsed by some of the most um famous political
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grifters in the state you can pay them for their endorsements you can travel around uh the entirety
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of the state you can visit all the counties multiple times uh with the governor but it doesn't mean
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anything unless you are a candidate that embodies the principles of maga people can see through it
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pretty easily uh one of the things uh the the maga base has come to learn over the last several years
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is that there are a lot of uh fakers there are a lot of phonies there are a lot of pretenders there
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are a lot of people who will cozy up to donald trump rub shoulders with donald trump they'll buy the
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expensive tickets to mar-a-lago they want the picture they put on their campaign literature but when it
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comes down to voting and whether that is at a local level whether it is at a national level
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uh everywhere you look at it the maga base has learned to realize um who is real and who is not
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and it's quite simple there are very few real ones out there and some of the ones that you even thought
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were real for a long time end up trying to sell you out somewhere down the line because you know the
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inducement gets too attractive um or the compromise gets too large so this is what's happened to ron de
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santis is that people remember ron de santis who put out ads who stood on stages with donald trump
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who thanked him who congratulated him who called himself in his own ads you know a pitbull trump
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defender that's what it said pitbull trump defender and both the conscious and the subconscious
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juxtaposition that is going on in the voters mind especially in the early states is how do you go from
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being a pitbull trump defender when you need the votes of the maga base in florida to going on
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television saying yeah no i'm not actually gonna step down from the colorado primary if they continue
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to try and take him off the ballot yeah i'm not going to support this man against his phony political
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indictments you know all of these things create a new vision of de santis that that he could he could
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stand in front of you in fact if he stood in front of you all day long lecturing you on his position
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he'd probably be turned off or they'd be turned on but he could stand in front of you all day long
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and try to convince you and try to convince you try to convince you it doesn't mean anything when the
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character of the person that you're trying to display does not match up with your action that's ron
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de santis um isn't also in policy i mean when de santis actually start started running it was just
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basically i mean he really didn't run to the right of trump there's an argument to be made as some of the
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stuff he had on the vaccine maybe but he never bobby kennedy kind of came into the to his own
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primary democratic and took that wind over sails and de santis never really i didn't think pressed
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the vax or other issues out there but it wasn't really running to the right of trump it was just
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it was just trump light with ron de santis and why is that an argument why would you ever why if you
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had to make the choice why would anybody take de santis over trump when he was kind of a
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milquetoast version of the same trump policies and and much of it like in ukraine and others
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kind of fell back to be quite frankly neoliberal neocon maybe not as bad as nikki haley
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but you just didn't see any difference why why support this guy
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yeah look if you if you launch your campaign the way he did right which is you know i get it there
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was a there was a he was trying to have a cool moment by doing on x with with elon musk but it failed
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it failed miserably um and that wasn't even really the campaign launch the real campaign launch people
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forget was in was in the was it the donor reception the billionaire donor reception at the four seasons
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in miami that was the real campaign launch and when that's how you want to launch your campaign
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instead of like a big speech instead of you know to fanfare all of this it kind of it kind of sets the
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tone for the rest of the thing then obviously you look at the types of people he's hired i won't i
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won't get personal about it but i know all of a lot of them personally and i wouldn't trust many
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of them to run a bath for me let alone run a political campaign um but i like to i like to
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think of the desantis stuff you know especially because of what you just mentioned right running
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to the right the vaccine stuff it's i like to think of it in the following way data if you ask people
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and we've done this story a number of times because i always like to check myself right my perhaps
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instincts are not good enough in this circumstance i've found that they have been good enough every
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single time the the top stories are immigration the border economy um you know several other things
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in a list and you go down it and even the turning point straw poll what was last on it last priority
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woke and dei well what was desantis's big thing when he came out woke and dei was woke okay hang
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here for one second we're gonna take a short break rahim's gonna stick with us for the hour
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at naomi wolf is on deck short break back in a moment
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okay welcome back merry christmas friday 22 december year of our lord 2023
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do we class ourselves up when we get raheem on here with that that clipped british accent
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did raheem have we have a very raheem help with the music selections we're going to find that out
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here in a moment um fascinating conversation by the way yesterday morning with raheem ben harnwell
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dave bratt about uh a civilization that has um confidence and you see that in the music of the
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19th and 18th century uh naomi wolf naomi first off i i just want to because you kind of our classic
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liberal tony lyons is believer in civil liberties tony lyons has now become i think the most heroic
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of all the publishers in the book industry and one of the reasons i love tony tony loves books
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he believes books are necessary to drive ideas and one of the things i keep saying about young people
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today or people the phone has made them so that they can't read books and hold the argument of a
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book in its its head but your thoughts about tony lyons and skyhorse given you've put out a couple
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three quite controversial books over the last couple of years talk to me about it it's it's such a such a
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turning point in american culture it's so indicative of the abandonment of the field of um real publishing
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real media by the left that this classical liberal publisher uh has snatched up one of these legacy
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conservative publishing houses it's incredible it's also a good business move um so first let me speak
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to the cultural shift basically what's happening right now in publishing um if people are not aware
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and there's no reason they should be because it's very kind of um domestic infighting is that publishing
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houses are rebelling uh the staff are rebelling in a woke way against promoting publicizing um doing
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their jobs in relationship to conservative or even quote-unquote controversial um titles and so over
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and it's it's made uh legacy publishing incredibly precarious um for instance one of our commentators
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a daily cloud jj carroll he has a wonderful book about the open border and his publisher kind of
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legacy publisher kind of freaked out um when it came time to bring it to market because there was
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resistance among the ranks this has happened over and over even to like biographies of people of
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legendary names that got caught up in sort of me too issues or um in some way cross that invisible
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always shifting tripwire of woke third railness right uh the staff will say we can't do it we're
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not going to promote it and then there goes a giant advance or you know the book can't get to market
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so legacy media has become insane and counterproductive uh and as a result not only just to make a decent
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pipeline of books to market but also as a as a as a kind of ability to bring ideas to market
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sky horse's move is really telling and important um because by by getting regnery which is this kind
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of well-established legendary house saving it from being acquired by simon and schuster or random house
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there are literally only four big legacy publishing um conglomerates left um basically they're saving
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conservative ideas but they're also saving independent ideas um and now i'm going to go to
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why it makes good business sense and and you know like disclosure sky horse is publishing us too you
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guys are publishing us too nonetheless i still think this is a fantastic business move because the left
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is becoming meaning the legacy media is becoming so orthodox um and so rigid in their thinking that
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look at what is conservative right or even sky horse you guys aren't just publishing um you know right
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wing maga republican titles you're publishing people like dark eon futurism ai this should transcend
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everybody's ideology as a really important subject you know you're publishing the wuhan cover-up
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super important public interest subject that's not partisan you know by rfk jr or sky horses um
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you're as you mentioned sky horse is publishing medical freedom books you're publishing our
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pfizer papers in april uh gigantic non-partisan effort by a group of totally non-partisan selfless
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doctors and scientists to tell the world what's in the pfizer documents now what's in their bodies
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um so arguably the the left has become so i don't want to use a vulgar term but self-referential
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to to substitute for a vulgar term and and self-regarding and brittle intellectually that the
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whole field of important ideas has been abandoned and sky horse is moving in daily cloud is moving in
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the war room has already moved in um you know i would say arguably arguably your own slate and the
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appeal of your your podcast you know you're not doing like rigid partisan uh guests you're doing a
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whole host of relevant people who are bringing ideas to the fore that don't accord with the legacy
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media narrative and that is the legacy media narrative is so co-opted that that is now the center of
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cultural debate has shifted to these independent news sites and publishing houses and thank god i think
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that that's going to be a counterbalance to the scaled up efforts we see all around us um of these
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globalists to censor i want to i know we came on talking about christmas i'm gonna try i gotta get to
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that the next couple days with you because um we're jammed for time but i gotta ask you this because
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i gotta say and you know i'm a voracious reader one of the most nuts books i've read in 2023 or in any
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year put up by a major publishing house is and i don't want to say this i don't want this to be
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misinterpreted by media matters which i know be is the obsessed the obsession and stalking of naomi wolf by
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naomi klein no i mean it is i just got a copy to go through it it's insane i mean the part about me
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is nothing compared i mean there is this bizarre i know your husband is a special forces guy and a
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pretty tough hombre but man oh man how could a major publishing house and you think about it in normal
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times this would be insane to publish this nobody would put that book out it's like somebody that's
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it's like in a basement that gets all weirded out in a midlife crisis and kind of picks this woman
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who has a similar name and a fairly similar career and it's the book's a stalker's manual is it not
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um i still haven't read it i'm trying to get through my life never actually reading it um but you know
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i've certainly read enough excerpts that are very very disturbing you know i can't avoid it because it
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was just coming over my feed featured in the new york times and you know i wrote a piece acknowledging
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just from what i read classic stalker behavior i mean classic definition of a certain subset of
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stalkers i'll just say it um well i don't want to say it but it's a it's a when people obsess about
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someone um follow their appearances imagine that they have a relationship with them which they don't
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i gather i've said things to her that i have never said to any any memory i have in my whole life um
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this has this is a classic stalker profile and people don't need to be um physically threatening my
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husband doesn't think she's a physical threat to me but uh it is threatening um that her followers uh
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may you know pick up on the very othering very objectifying very obsessive antagonistic
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um tone she takes from me and i do want to know that the new york times it totally improperly ran a
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piece in which she was meditating on doppelgangers being killed by their you know others meaning that
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would be me being killed in her scenario and the new york times ran a an illustration for this op-ed
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that showed a wolf or a dog that looks like a wolf it's unclear being strangled with blood coming out of
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its mouth so you know you and i get all kinds of threats all day long so does anyone no no no no
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no no no coincidence no coincidence is it a wolf look at that they're strangling a wolf it's kind
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of creepy so you know what can we make of this i think you're right like it goes to the our earlier
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conversation a minute ago about tony lyons and regnery and skyhorse and war room um never in a million
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years before the co-option thoroughgoing co-option of publishing on the left legacy media would any
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lawyer have allowed a psycho book you know obsessing about a public figure to be released it would have
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destroyed their reputation but um i found the money flow uh which is farma is the back it's in back of
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this yes well you also found with her husband we got about i want the book on the other side though
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talk about your book that's out uh and uh i want to make sure everybody gets a chance because it's
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it's really a shout out to the war room posse and kind of the journey you've gone through kind of a
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sequel to the first book walk us through it where people get it where can people get all your writings
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and everything you're working on so much to go through with you so much happening so um that was
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you know the bad miomi and her bad book this is the good the good book and it's called facing the
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beast and the mirror image um in a positive way and it in the subtitle is courage faith and resistance
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in a new dark age and it really does tell the story of this incredible journey we've all taken together
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in the last two years um with the posse with war room with the work of the war room daily club pfizer
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documents volunteers and um how they basically saved humanity uh or we all saved humanity all of our
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efforts um and it's also kind of my my personal journey from being exiled by the left best thing
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that ever happened to me um new conversations with um people like you people like tucker carlson
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uh libertarians and conservatives and people of faith across you know quote unquote the rest of
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america once i got ejected from the bubble of the legacy media left um and so how i realized that a lot
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of things i believed uh were based on lies um and there's a chapter called dear conservatives i
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apologize uh and and lastly it's also journey of faith because i do think we're living you know
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we've shifted since 2020 into not ordinary history and we're living kind of a biblical history and i go
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into my thoughts about that wow christmas gift by the way okay uh it's fabulous i want everybody to go
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there daily clout you got naomi we're your social media up naomi thank you very much
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thank you christmas ma'am happy hanukkah happy holidays all of it
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now we will for real warrior okay um rahim's going to come back we're getting to this i got dr
00:27:54.220
thayer we'll spend a couple minutes dr thayer dr thayer one of the principal architects of the
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anti-ccp movement in our nation and how they've tried to shut down guys like dr thayer
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grow up to christmas dr thayer i just want to get you on for a minute or two i know you're jammed and
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you took time away to do this i appreciate it because tony like uh we've got a big project we're
00:28:38.900
working on with you and captain jim for now we'll announce that uh at the beginning of the year but
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i want to go back it's just not this um shutting down of voices i mean you're one of the most prominent
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thoughtful uh strategists and analysts of of of the chinese communist party the chinese military
00:28:55.780
yet when i look at you and others there has been this massive massive development over the last year
00:29:02.180
to a couple of years to basically shut down the voices that are prepared to call out the ccp and
00:29:06.920
talk about the dangers we face as a nation from an institution and organization that is the single
00:29:13.940
most existential threat to the united states sir indeed it is uh steve and and that's how totalitarian
00:29:23.400
states operate uh they don't want to have any criticism they don't want to have any analysis and
00:29:28.680
they don't want uh any effective balancing against them any response uh against them so they've worked
00:29:36.080
very hard to penetrate uh the ideas industry and have done so spectacularly successfully we can think
00:29:42.820
about film where they put pressure on legendary film steve you know that from your time in hollywood how
00:29:48.380
uh the prc penetrated hollywood uh they put pressure on cambridge university press and cambridge
00:29:54.440
university uh so uh they put pressure on universities and and uh media of course and have done so again
00:30:02.640
incredibly successfully uh because what do they do they offer money uh and with that comes a tremendous
00:30:09.880
influence and so what just just tell the audience how bad academia is i mean guys like yourself used to
00:30:17.560
be and used to have a robust part of academia of of just of teaching kids and going to seminars and
00:30:23.680
conferences they're getting rid of a whole generation oh there i'm right there a whole
00:30:27.600
generation of guys like yourself that are giving the other side of the coin about decoupling and
00:30:33.420
taking on the ccp absolutely and that's the point it's a decapitation strategy right they want to
00:30:39.880
separate uh any uh effective strategy against them uh and thus limit uh its effectiveness and so it's
00:30:48.040
not a surprise that it's very difficult in american universities to be anti-ccp uh because ccp is
00:30:55.240
providing money to universities uh around and to think tanks uh and that's simply uh they owned if
00:31:02.360
you will the battle space uh very significantly this is why your work and tony lyons's work
00:31:08.120
providing avenues uh for individuals to publish that offer the truth uh and that offer ideas that will
00:31:16.740
allow us to respond to uh the ccp's tyranny is extremely uh is so important uh and uh and and welcome
00:31:25.080
and well overdue because presses were cowed as well as found philanthropic foundations were
00:31:33.200
uh but uh and our media steve as you well know again because of the money uh and because to some degree
00:31:41.540
of the uh ideological convergence uh between many of our elites and the ccp uh means that there's only
00:31:49.460
one product right there's only one attitude one approach uh towards the ccp and that's the engagement
00:31:55.880
school right we need to sustain trade we need to sustain investment nothing can affect that that's the
00:32:01.920
11th commandment right moses did brought down an 11th commandment and that was the engagement school
00:32:08.600
right you got to invest in trade amazing uh and where do people where do where do where do people
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go to get your writings we'll do more of this between christmas and uh and new year where where
00:32:21.060
do people go over the holiday over the christmas break uh to get to your writings get your thoughts
00:32:26.620
uh brad thayer uh brad thayer at x and brad thayer at getter and truth thanks very much steve merry christmas
00:32:32.740
merry christmas dr thayer is one of the leaders of that group of the decoupling and the conflict
00:32:39.600
taking on and confronting the chinese county's party from a realist point of view you're seeing
00:32:44.080
those voices shut down academia think tanks all of it um and that's why we're so proud of him as one
00:32:51.140
of the contributors here so rahim you've got charlie kirk giving this interview to alex marlowe saying
00:32:57.160
that hey they've been notified by fox that no fox personnel can come to amfest you went there for
00:33:04.080
the first time uh and you went out with the war and we really appreciate you coming with us
00:33:08.060
give us your thoughts i mean you you see this they got the new mediate list
00:33:12.520
you you guys have done a great job at national polls to try to be independent not be dependent upon
00:33:18.760
either conservative media or more importantly conservative donors just walk me through all
00:33:23.400
your thoughts right now as this gets to be i think one of the most important the information
00:33:27.600
warfare part of this is going to be so important uh ending 23 and going into 24
00:33:33.120
well i hope you don't mind me recalling this story steve but i remember being in the war room with you a
00:33:39.620
couple of years ago i think this was before the the 2020 election and uh and i said to you i'm not gonna
00:33:46.740
go on fox anymore i'm not gonna uh respond to their bookers and their producers when they try and have me
00:33:52.560
on i'm i'm sick of them i'm sick of everything and you you said to me at the time i don't think
00:33:57.620
you can give up an audience as big as fox news right now but it was coming it was always coming
00:34:02.440
this this this attitude this shift uh this spitting in the face i remember that hang on hang on what
00:34:08.200
what was that what was that what was that fight over i remember that you had just you had been a
00:34:12.640
co-host when we started war room impeachment and for the first you know first six months or so
00:34:16.760
then you got to just start national polls because you were on fox all the time and i think you're
00:34:21.260
on laura ingham you're on tucker a lot what what what was the what was the throwdown about
00:34:25.120
no i don't even recall a particular moment it just become a very fractious relationship where
00:34:31.180
they were sort of yeah and and as you probably know i don't like these three or four minute hits
00:34:36.400
you can't really get anything out i don't like sitting on the panels with other guests
00:34:39.880
things like that and it just got to a position where they're they're they were squashing voices
00:34:45.020
that were even notionally pro donald trump they were squashing populist nationalist voices
00:34:49.780
they were making mockeries of people you know the way you you alluded to it at the cowboy church
00:34:54.560
the other day but the way they treated matt gates as the whole mccarthy thing was going down they
00:34:58.960
weren't just calling him you know ill-mannered or or not having a plan you know they were implying on
00:35:05.300
on national television that he was a sex trafficker and and and and you know a couple of years ago
00:35:11.200
i just saw this this whole thing coming with arena bugranti and the team over there at fox
00:35:16.180
they hate you they hate all of us they hate anybody that loves america they hate um the idea of
00:35:24.220
nationalism because it's it's inherently a a globalist corporate structure you have to understand the
00:35:30.340
background to all of this as well ladies and gentlemen you know rupert murdoch partnered with
00:35:34.540
mark zuckerberg 10 years ago on the project for a new american economy this was designed to mass
00:35:41.080
import cheap migrant labor into the united states and you stand in the way of that and so it's it's
00:35:46.540
one thing for them they've made their money off you they made their money off trump uh they did all
00:35:51.500
that and now and now they're coming for you right that's that's what this whole plan has been about and
00:35:55.880
so i welcome it i welcome what charlie's done i welcome your position uh on on what you call you
00:36:01.180
know television for stupid people um and i think it needs it needs to be brought brought down and
00:36:05.980
i mean i'd say a notch or two i'd say a notch or 10 yeah you you are very familiar you went with us
00:36:13.200
for years to to cpac tell me about your thoughts about your first amfest energy ideas all of it
00:36:19.500
yeah amazing amazing i i really you know i loved the early cpac days uh 10 000 people um magnificent
00:36:28.760
stages speakers packed exhibitor booths all of that kind of thing and this really this really brought me
00:36:34.600
back there um what they've done not just in terms of production value but in terms of the energy in
00:36:40.520
the room yeah i think this year uh it's gonna say this is gonna sound so bad but this year women
00:36:47.040
overtook men as attendees for the first time at the turning point conference that has never happened at
00:36:51.900
a conservative conference that i've ever been to before trust me we know especially was uh when i was
00:36:56.560
in my mid-20s hanging around these things we knew what the um what the ratio was like there and so
00:37:02.660
it's attracting massively different groups of people massively energized groups of people and
00:37:07.220
it's not just giving them the kind of rah-rah speeches up there on the main stage it's actually
00:37:11.960
i've found so much and so many people coming away with so much detail about policy so much detail about
00:37:18.460
what they can do on the ground so much detail about how they can get involved and and that's what
00:37:22.980
was always been missing not just from like cpacs going back you know 10 15 years but but from the
00:37:28.620
broader conservative movement and it's it's it's gatekeeping right in a way a lot of the dc
00:37:33.960
uh consultant class political class they don't actually want ordinary americans involved in this
00:37:39.260
stuff they want to take your money for your tickets they want you to buy things from the
00:37:42.480
exhibitor booths but they don't actually want you involved in their in their dynamics this changes all
00:37:47.520
of that firstly it's not in washington dc which is a massive massive boon to it uh secondly it is
00:37:52.480
designed to bring people in not just bring their money in and keep them out and i i think it was
00:37:57.620
phenomenal uh real quick give me a couple of minutes on how important this uh reg regnery
00:38:04.160
acquisition by uh sky horses well it's huge for me because no-go zones was with regnery books back
00:38:10.540
in 2017 so i'm hoping we could do a follow-up on that whether it's a no-go zones down at the american
00:38:15.460
border or maybe we need to revisit europe and do an update on it um but but but it's a huge publisher
00:38:20.980
it's got a huge back catalog i think tony there was being being rather modest about its back catalog but
00:38:27.000
it's it's it's massive i know a lot of the folks over there they're great folks uh and have have
00:38:31.480
historically done a decent job of of of providing top quality well edited content for the audience
00:38:38.420
but as you as you know you know books are hard to sell books are hard to um to convince younger
00:38:43.700
people especially uh to dive into so excited about the fact that this has been given a new lease of
00:38:49.140
life and excited about the fact um that that it's that it's not going to be just another one of these
00:38:54.980
um publishers that that overly you know when no-go zones came out it was a bestseller and the
00:38:59.800
new york times kept it off the bestseller list they they even outright said we're keeping this
00:39:03.780
off the bestseller list editorially we just can't put a book like this on there even though it's sold
00:39:08.000
enough copies uh to get on there so hopefully uh this change in this change in ownership this change
00:39:13.200
in direction will kind of force a lot of those guys to buck their ideas up and say well you know
00:39:17.340
these guys are selling 10 15 000 copies of a book the first week out maybe we better feature them in
00:39:22.700
our list we'll see uh raheem you uh you're going to be back in the worm on tuesday to do your annual
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raheem thank you very much uh merry christmas brother and uh merry christmas to uh to seeing
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