Bannon's War Room - Episode 3274： A Boxing Day Special

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going

00:00:10.520 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:17.200 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:21.360 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:24.720 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:32.540 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:39.660 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:48.120 warm new york christmas welcome to the 45th 46th and 47th president of the united states of america

00:01:05.220 president donald j trump

00:01:09.320 raheem kasam raheem where is raheem what a good job you do

00:01:28.340 thank you raheem great job

00:01:32.040 welcome to the second hour you're in the war room for this boxing day special i'm raheem

00:01:39.800 kasam editor-in-chief of the national pulse.com we're going to be joined by one of our writers

00:01:44.740 will upton in just a moment but i just wanted to i just wanted to make mention of that again i

00:01:49.720 i have been posting it every day on my on my instagram my social media just just for the haters

00:01:55.240 and losers especially a lot of the a lot of team desantis doesn't like that did not like the shout out

00:02:01.600 uh to the national pulse from from president donald j trump but we were so honored by it

00:02:06.200 and um and i had no idea it was coming either by the way so i was i was sitting right at the front

00:02:11.640 right at the rope line right underneath him as he uh as he's doing his speech and he's he's giving

00:02:17.560 a shout out to a few people his shout out to uh paul ingracia and to jack pasobic and and he shouts

00:02:23.360 me out and i was running around all over the place i'm quite involved with the uh new york gang

00:02:28.240 republican club so i i volunteer thrown where i can to make sure that things run smoothly they have

00:02:33.040 such a great team over there they don't need me anyway but but you know what i'm like i'm a little

00:02:36.460 bit of a little bit of an interventionist in that sense and uh and and stick my oar in sometimes where

00:02:42.040 it's not wanted i'm sure but but just to help things run a little smoother uh and if i see if i

00:02:46.800 see anything going on that i can help with um i tend to do that and i was running all around uh

00:02:52.240 during that gala just trying to trying to help out as you heard i gave the introduction to him

00:02:57.760 and then i come over to my table i sit down at my seat and um was just kind of catching my breath

00:03:04.560 catching up to it all and so i thought i heard my name and then so i stand up and i give him a you

00:03:11.160 know thumbs up and a little salute thank you and i sat down and went to the person sitting next to me i

00:03:16.660 said uh i said he did say my name that would have been pretty bad if he had said somebody else's and

00:03:22.160 i'd got up and give it away but we we got there in the um we got there in the uh in the clip after

00:03:27.620 that just to make sure i had to hear it again and now i like to hear it every day it was such a

00:03:31.680 great honor as well and as i said in the last hour uh having had the chance to interview him

00:03:38.060 having had the chance to to sit on the plane with him and chat with him um you know i i have been

00:03:42.900 in this business now for for quite some time as as by the way uh has my next guest and i can i can

00:03:49.060 tell you this uh there's there's pizzazz right there's the x factor there are the people that

00:03:53.540 have and the people that don't and you look across the western world at the moment and i've worked for

00:03:58.660 for nigel farage i was his senior advisor in the run-up to uh brexit and you look across the western

00:04:04.560 world at the moment and you you see it and unfortunately i think you see it uh on that gop primary

00:04:09.640 debate stage as well in these town halls that they've been doing too is is there really there

00:04:14.860 really are not that many people uh with that x factor you know nigel being one of them but donald 0.99

00:04:19.480 trump uh just just just massive massive stage presence massive global presence and that was

00:04:25.660 one of the things that i wanted to ask him and i did ask him uh in the interview we did with him so

00:04:29.660 if you haven't seen that yet by the way it's on rumble it's on youtube it's on x uh it's on

00:04:33.700 the national pulse.com make sure you check it out um that uh that long interview they gave us a lot

00:04:38.160 of time on that interview as well so i was honored honored to do it and we're also going to be putting

00:04:42.240 out uh the national pulse's first print magazine in the first quarter uh of 2024 uh with a with a with

00:04:48.660 a far longer written word piece by me about what exactly it was like and the little details that

00:04:55.820 people miss how do you how do you end up in that position what are your obligations um you know what

00:05:01.080 is it like going through in the morning and standing outside that plane you know i got to ride on trump

00:05:06.080 force one and of course secret service comes by and you do the sweep and then you know all of these

00:05:10.660 little details that that are just fascinating quite frankly um as if you haven't experienced it before

00:05:17.040 and i hadn't so so to do that was such a great honor but i want to impart to you guys uh there what

00:05:23.640 that's like as well it's so important not just for not just for you know contemporaneous interest but

00:05:31.620 it's important for history as well right there are so many people that are paid to besmirch uh donald

00:05:39.160 trump and the muggle movement there are so many people who are out there whose sole focus is to 0.90

00:05:43.680 tear it down and to to poke holes in it and all of that and i think for the importance of history

00:05:48.420 so that your uh kids and grandkids and great-grandkids and further down the line understand that the the

00:05:55.160 counter point to all of that uh that we get those things down in writing we get those things down in

00:06:00.980 print and like i say if you want to sign up at the national pulse.com forward slash warham you'll

00:06:05.200 get that that first print edition in the early part of next year um i i feel that about so many

00:06:12.900 things and one of the things that i want to do over the course of 2024 i i like to have very lofty goals

00:06:17.680 every year i don't call them resolutions they're not resolutions because i work on them all year round

00:06:22.060 for the next year sometimes i get to them sometimes i don't we all know what that feels like

00:06:26.940 but one of the things i want to do next year is build on that idea that i just said

00:06:31.460 and actually have an entire book dedicated to that process to that election cycle to the man himself

00:06:38.840 to the team around him so i'm just trying to kind of find my way into getting some buy-in

00:06:44.460 from team trump to do that book at the moment so if any of you have a uh have a tweet in you or a truth

00:06:51.640 post or anything like that uh that could help nudge them in that direction and allow me to kind of

00:06:56.660 play historian uh then i encourage you uh to do so don't bother them by the way don't harass them

00:07:01.800 but uh just an idea let's bring um let's bring one of our writers in from the national pulse now

00:07:07.220 will upton joins us will you've been around uh the political world for a very long time just

00:07:12.360 just tell our audience about about you and your trajectory real quick

00:07:16.200 yeah i've i've worked here in dc for 15 years now um did a stand at the treasury department under

00:07:23.520 president trump uh prior to that i've worked in public relations and state level lobbying for

00:07:29.120 for almost half a decade

00:07:30.920 yeah and and and your your philosophical trajectory will

00:07:37.060 yeah uh you know coming out of college i was kind of more of the the ron paul libertarian type

00:07:43.820 uh but over the years yeah i've sort of become very much and more of the populist mold um somebody

00:07:50.760 that kind of admires the work of pat mucannon president trump um you know sort of woken up on the

00:07:57.240 issues of trade and mass immigration and the impacts that those have on non-american workers in the american

00:08:02.640 economy

00:08:03.080 one of the big um big moments i think for the populist uh for the populist side of the gop this

00:08:12.600 this year was um the deposing of kevin mccarthy and i've said it i've said it for a long time now

00:08:19.180 i i never fully understood how uh you know a conservative from california could end up leading

00:08:27.520 uh the gop you know and i say could not just in a in a logistical sense as how how he got there but

00:08:33.980 actually how with with any moral purpose given the positions that kevin mccarthy has has staked out

00:08:39.720 over the last uh several years of his career how that how that was tenable and we of course saw the

00:08:45.180 saw him run up against that that wall of of how tenable it really is this year so i want to talk

00:08:52.280 to you about that that was obviously one of the major moments of this year uh and then in the next

00:08:56.520 segment we'll talk about some of the some of the other major moments the indictments uh particularly

00:09:00.800 to get a little bit more a little bit more political in this hour than in the last but let's talk

00:09:06.220 about that because when it happened i genuinely couldn't believe will the level of hatred coming

00:09:14.520 at matt gates i mean we were we were with him reporting uh on on his you know pseudo scandal the

00:09:20.520 fake scandal the hoax scandal of his from from last year this was something entirely new there were there

00:09:26.920 were i mean i don't have much respect for him now i mean i've said this for years by the way

00:09:30.540 but but i couldn't believe people like kaylee mckinney and and others going on television and

00:09:37.220 and making the single most lurid and false allegations about gates against the backdrop of

00:09:43.820 all that they weren't attacking his politics they weren't attacking even what he was doing

00:09:48.160 uh with kevin mccarthy they were attacking him personally and making a lot of it up so so take us

00:09:54.020 through that period because for you i mean i gotta tell the audience this before i throw it to you will

00:09:58.080 for you i mean will was all over it for the national polls he was every single day um

00:10:04.940 he was i i i think the word giddy uh applies here will uh at the processes that you were seeing out

00:10:12.740 the parliamentary processes that you were seeing playing out so talk to us a little bit about it

00:10:17.360 yeah so you know kevin mccarthy was a california republican became speaker mostly because he was a

00:10:25.180 prolific fundraiser um the guy had massive connections to silicon valley tech companies

00:10:30.000 um major agricultural firms he his course's district was in sort of the agricultural heart

00:10:35.760 of california um so this made him very appealing to sort of your your rank and file uh member to sort

00:10:43.520 of go along with for being speaker despite his politics because he was able to raise just

00:10:48.860 google's amounts of money uh to help republicans in their re-election efforts

00:10:52.900 um now unfortunately he didn't have the the you know the sound politics to go along with being

00:10:59.760 a republican speaker um and after caving on on a debt limit deal uh which seems to be kind of the

00:11:06.620 final straw combined with um um also basically acknowledging we'd have probably have to do a cr

00:11:13.540 uh to fund the government something he directly promised he would not do um that that kind of spurred

00:11:20.020 matt gates uh to use this sort of archaic parliamentary procedure called a motion to

00:11:25.560 vacate uh to oust uh mccarthy as speaker now when mccarthy was first elected speaker um back in january

00:11:33.640 of 2023 uh the motion to vacate rule was actually changed as part of the agreement to secure the votes

00:11:41.640 he needed um so that it only needed one member to bring the motion it lowered the threshold dramatically

00:11:48.220 uh which let gates sort of make this move that we saw later in the year

00:11:52.320 do you think that was always his plan or do you think if if mccarthy had well had done what he had

00:12:01.040 promised to do originally that that gates would have and and the others it wasn't just matt gates

00:12:05.480 but the gates and the others would have kind of allowed him to to continue on as speaker

00:12:09.360 i i think they would have let him continue on but i i think ultimately the reality was mccarthy

00:12:14.900 was never going to to fulfill his promise i guess just the nature of and now and now of the man and

00:12:21.000 his yes and now he's out but but he told us he told us that he never stops fighting right he told us that

00:12:29.320 he never gives up he never stops fighting he went in front of the cameras he said that remember he i think

00:12:34.340 he tweeted or posted at matt gates said bring it and and and it got brought well and then the the

00:12:42.020 aftermath of that i think was was the second time i've seen will truly giddy which was which was the

00:12:48.380 picking of the new speaker right and and for days and days we had no idea you know who it was going

00:12:53.960 to be how we were going to get there and lots of names scalese and jordan and all of these guys talk

00:12:59.180 us through a little bit of how how that all took place and what will upton's perspective was

00:13:03.060 yeah so you know this is the first time in american history a speaker was ousted via a motion to vacate

00:13:10.420 the last time the procedure was used was over a hundred years ago uh it was used by the then

00:13:15.900 speaker himself as sort of a show of power um to sort of re-entrench himself um by defeating his own

00:13:23.360 motion um but you know we were sort of in uncharted territory in congress uh it took him about three

00:13:30.260 weeks to select a new speaker uh and the entire time kevin mccarthy was actually operating behind

00:13:35.600 the scenes undermining the various candidates um and kind of an attempt to pave the way for his own

00:13:42.720 return as speaker um and especially he was he was upset with the candidacies of steve scalese and jim

00:13:49.360 jordan who mccarthy sees as two individuals that were responsible for sort of preventing him from

00:13:56.000 becoming speaker um the when john bainer actually retired um and he blames them for paving the way

00:14:03.000 for paul ryan to sort of do an end run around him uh and become speaker so right from the start mccarthy

00:14:09.760 was never going to let either scalese or jordan uh become speaker which is sort of how we we got into

00:14:15.400 this weird position where uh a relatively unknown member to the general public but for those who you

00:14:21.000 observe congress uh mike johnson who's a sort of semi has one foot in the in the conservative sort

00:14:28.580 of policy camp with the rsc and the freedom caucus and another foot in the the camp with the defense

00:14:34.820 appropriators that's sort of how it paves the way for this guy to be able to kind of

00:14:38.820 couple together a winning coalition yeah let's um let's take a quick break there will and we'll uh

00:14:45.380 we'll come back and talk more about that and more about the indictments that we saw take place over

00:14:49.320 this year talking about unprecedented uh there was a lot this year and there's going to be a whole lot

00:14:54.640 in 2024 too we'll be right back with this war and boxing day special as we head toward a presidential

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00:16:18.700 war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:16:23.080 welcome back to this war room boxing day special i'm raheem kassam editor-in-chief of

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00:18:51.440 in the last segment will upton who we've got on now and our next guest as well as part of the pulse

00:18:57.760 plus um movement will have austin fletcher the famous the infamous flackers talks joining us in just a

00:19:05.020 moment too so well where we where we left off was what happened on capitol hill that great as you say

00:19:12.040 unprecedented removal of a speaker what has the feeling been like in washington dc on capitol hill

00:19:19.220 since that all happened i know mike johnson also has his detractors he's also uh put a couple of uh

00:19:25.420 placed a couple of missteps let's say let's be kind it's boxing day after all i will be a bit generous

00:19:30.660 with him a couple of missteps uh but what has the general mood been like before we dive into the

00:19:36.040 indictments it's been tense still um you know we we saw there was an incident where mccarthy actually

00:19:43.760 sort of kidney punched uh congressman burchett uh republican from tennessee um you know speaker

00:19:50.060 johnson has had his his missteps especially um in terms of sort of focal support for ukraine aid

00:19:57.760 um though he's walked that back a bit and has tied it very heavily to um uh the adoption of hr2 which is

00:20:04.720 the house border security bill um and and he's also had some missteps in terms of you know allowing

00:20:12.320 the fees of reauthorization to be wrapped into the national defense authorization act um and then a few

00:20:18.360 other things but overall there's also kind of i think a bit of contentness with it because he he is a

00:20:25.780 weak speaker he's not sort of one of these stronger speakers that dominates the republican conference

00:20:30.660 and sort of sets the agenda um he's much more reliant on the committee chairman he's much more reliant on

00:20:38.340 rank and file members um and he he isn't and just by virtue of his lack of experience uh within

00:20:46.640 leadership he he isn't sort of um directing uh the conference on what to do

00:20:52.840 i remember one of the things that you said at the time was this thing about and perhaps you can

00:20:59.780 explain it for me um as much as explaining for our audience you said this thing about the the

00:21:03.860 was it the defense appropriators and and the necessity to have them on board what what what

00:21:11.540 what is that why is that why why does a congressman who is being you know told he's going to be the next

00:21:17.180 speaker why does he need to have this kind of like these faceless appropriators on board

00:21:21.940 yeah so there's there's there's an old joke that there's actually three parties in congress

00:21:27.860 um there's there's republicans democrats and the appropriators um the appropriators tend to act more

00:21:34.640 as their own entity um they they you know are the ones who put together the federal budget every year

00:21:41.380 um and sort of direct funding including earmarks uh for other members as well into their districts

00:21:47.140 um so they they hold a lot of sway and a lot of power um the the other thing too is for for johnson

00:21:53.620 the math worked out that he basically needed them on board uh he wasn't going to get the backing

00:21:59.740 of of sort of the hardcore mccarthy block um so in order to get to the 200 i believe it was at the time 18

00:22:08.060 votes um to actually be elected speaker he essentially needed the republican defense appropriators

00:22:14.620 to come on board and support him so a lot of speculation has kind of gone into that and it

00:22:21.660 does appear to be true um that that he cut a deal with them to basically at least attempt to bring

00:22:28.480 a ukraine defense supplemental to the floor uh which he has done he's attempted to do it it just hasn't

00:22:34.780 gone anywhere yeah yeah well certainly lots to um lots to play for and unfortunately uh it seems like

00:22:43.220 lots to pay for um in in 2024 let's um let's switch gears here a little bit and talk about this um

00:22:48.900 this big indictment story got about five minutes here so let's let's dive into that obviously the

00:22:53.680 biggest story of this year will i just ask you the obvious question in your lifetime did you see a

00:22:59.120 former president of the united states being not just indicted but indicted for what is very clearly

00:23:03.940 very very obviously a a partisan attack a weaponization of the legal systems of the united states

00:23:11.660 against a former president i i i would never imagine this situation uh it's

00:23:17.820 shocking is is really not even an appropriate word for it just how damaging this is to our republic

00:23:26.760 does it it's such a great point because i think a lot of people have watched this show constantly

00:23:34.640 in the weeds on the on the details of all of these things possibly even more so than you or i you know

00:23:40.500 i know a lot of the war and posse a lot of the audience are all day every day going through the

00:23:45.280 documents themselves and and reading up is there a way back from this is is there a way to to stop

00:23:51.720 this happening again what does that look like i i'm not sure there is honestly you know we have this

00:23:57.900 sort of habit in u.s politics that once a precedent is set um you sort of open up the floodgates um

00:24:05.880 you know it's why the supreme court why the u.s courts in general are always so careful

00:24:12.240 to sort of allow these sort of things to and usually to happen um but so many people within

00:24:20.520 sort of the liberal political sphere have developed the extreme trump derangement syndrome that they're

00:24:28.020 no longer sort of able to consider the implications or consequences of of this lawfare that they've engaged

00:24:34.700 in you say that but then you know you look at you look at the way that republicans kind of are playing

00:24:42.580 with the with the impeachment inquiry into joe biden and it does feel a lot like kid gloves right there's

00:24:48.140 a lot more evidence of wrongdoing there's a lot more evidence of compromise uh in the biden family

00:24:52.860 the biden crime syndicate quite frankly than there ever was with trump and russia and any of this stuff

00:24:57.700 and yet uh you know it comes back to our last topic perhaps in in in small part but the the

00:25:05.060 machinations on capitol hill shouldn't preclude republicans from actually going after uh the

00:25:09.580 details of this guy and and and yes yes post mccarthy we've had a little bit of expediency

00:25:15.200 but not too much will yeah i mean republicans on capitol hill have a tendency to be a bit feckless

00:25:23.780 um they sort of for for years the gop has been the party of not just limited government but small

00:25:33.120 government um and they've shied away from actually using uh the power that the constitution grants them

00:25:40.420 um both in congress and you know until trump they they were afraid to use it in the white house for

00:25:45.180 the most part um there were a few bush attorneys that argued for presidential authority but you know

00:25:51.260 in general republicans have almost been afraid of the of their constitutional powers um

00:25:58.780 maybe we're just slow adopters um i i hope that will change and i hope we will see the party get

00:26:06.920 more aggressive but you know i think that is a fair point that they have not responded to biden with

00:26:15.140 the same degree of vitriol as we saw the democrats respond to trump and both of their impeachments

00:26:21.240 and then after his presidency as well yeah well well we're um we're um delighted that you're on

00:26:28.820 board that you're at the national pulse with us um let uh let our audience know where they can follow

00:26:34.580 you how they can get to more of your work uh and also any any final uh closing thoughts here

00:26:39.740 yeah um you know you can read out my stories at the national pulse.com uh you can also find me on

00:26:46.920 on x formerly known as twitter um at uh at w-u-p-t-o-n uh at whoopton um and that's the the

00:26:55.500 best place to find me

00:26:56.440 well really appreciate it uh will upton uh one of our great uh great reporters and editor at the

00:27:05.160 the national pulse.com thank you for joining us here and walking us through those two massive stories

00:27:10.120 uh from this year um on this war room boxing day special will thank you once again uh ladies and

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00:27:27.140 is on us it's for free i am certain you'll like uh what we have uh to to offer um i will i will say

00:27:35.360 i think over the last couple of weeks i've been perusing around conservative news sites 0.89

00:27:41.080 too many ads too much churn quite frankly churn just oh this silly person said silly thing on 0.53

00:27:49.220 television that's a story well no we're a little bit more discerning than that we bring you the news

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00:28:01.160 leave that on the cutting room floor and that's what we do at the national pulse we want to make sure

00:28:05.320 that the uh the site and the everything is growing so that we can we can come and hang out with you

00:28:10.080 guys more more of our meetups um all of the most important things being part of a community we'll be

00:28:15.960 right back with this war of special war room here's your host stephen k band

00:28:22.940 now it is boxing day which is the uh the day of giving day of generosity the day of charity um i think

00:28:34.540 it's a very important day to mark uh especially post christmas you can still get people gifts

00:28:41.180 that's right you don't just have to do it uh before or on christmas day and one of the things that i think

00:28:48.080 is is obviously i would say this but i think is great is that you can give people the gift of real

00:28:54.560 news if you go to the national pulse.com forward slash gift uh you can actually get people a gift

00:29:01.720 subscription uh to the pulse so make their day their week their year by doing that the national

00:29:07.440 pulse.com forward slash gift and we have a gift for you right now we're bringing in none other than

00:29:13.920 the host of the fleckers talks podcast part of the pulse plus network fleckers himself thanks for

00:29:22.480 joining us here on this war room boxing day special good to be here raheem as president trump says

00:29:28.820 raheem where's raheem he said i love that and i may make it i may make it part of working at the

00:29:39.340 pulse plus by the way that everybody has to call me raheem from now on um yeah fleckers the uh the show

00:29:46.740 for people that don't know uh is is absolutely on fire it is one of the best kind of culture and

00:29:54.100 politics overlaps shows i think around i think probably the best as far as i'm concerned i think

00:29:59.620 it's the funniest it's always on point you guys always have the best commentary the best clips

00:30:04.600 everything up to date um and and and also i understand that you guys have a gift uh subscription

00:30:11.260 that people can take out as well if they're already um if they're already part of it they can go to

00:30:15.880 fleckers talks.com and find out more about that but but for the audience uh who may not know a lot

00:30:22.560 about uh what you guys do just talk us through fleckers talks how it started what you guys are up to

00:30:28.940 how often you're putting this show out and then we'll get into the the specifics as to as to why

00:30:34.040 why are you doing this and why do you find so much gratification in it over to you fleckers 1.00

00:30:38.220 absolutely um yeah so the fleckers talks the podcast we started a couple years ago in 2021

00:30:45.200 about this time in 2021 and uh my channel originally started out as a man on the street reporter

00:30:52.080 channel i was living in los angeles uh i was it was 2016 2017 with the trump election and i started

00:30:59.220 doing man on the street reporting where i would interview people who were protesting trump and then

00:31:03.980 all my friends in la said hey you can't do this you can't support trump you're never going to get hired

00:31:08.480 in la you can't be a comedian if you do this and i kind of was faced with the decision do i go

00:31:13.640 you know with my gut and what i think is right or do i kind of keep my mouth shut and try and get a

00:31:19.280 traditional job in la and i went with my gut i started doing these man in the streets uh they

00:31:24.440 got really popular really viral uh it actually encouraged another generation of man on the street

00:31:29.560 reporters as well which i was really excited about which was my bigger goal uh and then i did that for a

00:31:35.060 while i built my audience up uh so i did that from 2017 to 2020 and then after 2020 obviously the

00:31:42.300 election didn't go how it should have gone in my opinion there were definitely some issues there

00:31:47.780 uh so i decided to go off the street and start building my own show uh i partnered with my friend

00:31:54.020 richard rapoy who i've been friends with uh for 15 years we went to college together we played college

00:31:59.200 football together uh best friends so i knew him and i would be a good match for an on-camera show

00:32:05.380 uh and then we just started cranking them out once a week starting in 2021 uh it's about an hour and a

00:32:11.120 half long and the audience really enjoyed it the clips were really funny the comedy was on point and

00:32:17.800 we expanded to two times a week uh as of six months ago and now we're a partner with the national

00:32:24.540 pulse we're offering a ton of bonus content four hours of exclusive bonus content behind uh the

00:32:29.820 fleckatalks.com site uh which is really excited about but yeah right now we are just cranking the

00:32:36.380 show out uh we have i don't want to say the best takes but you know raheem you have the best takes

00:32:41.760 steve bannon has the best takes tucker carlson has the best takes and i would love to one day be

00:32:46.720 you know within that list of people with the best takes uh we got things correct really early we got

00:32:52.440 uh russia ukraine correct day one uh we got covid correct the whole time election discrepancies we got

00:32:59.240 correct ron desantis with his boots and the whole ron desantis debacle we got that correct so we take a

00:33:05.520 lot of pride in having the correct takes and having a pulse on the people uh knowing where the ball's

00:33:10.140 going and knowing what the people care about the mega base especially uh so those are our people the

00:33:15.420 audience has been growing we're doing more than a hundred thousand views per episode now all in which

00:33:20.220 we're really excited about wow uh and then yeah two times a week so tuesdays and fridays at 11 o'clock

00:33:26.060 eastern on my youtube channel is where you find the show itself yeah i have to be honest like i i

00:33:33.800 listen i'm an avid listener as you know i've been an avid listener since before we partnered with you

00:33:38.320 guys as well and and it's it's it's one of if it's one of my favorites if not my fate my single

00:33:45.100 favorite thing to listen to because and and i do the audio right i'm a i'm a podcast guy i listen to

00:33:50.020 it at the gym you can do that it's on all the podcast platforms as well ladies and gentlemen

00:33:53.380 flackers talks uh but but there's also such a visual element to this thing right there's there's

00:33:59.240 all these clips that you guys get together you have these hilarious segments i'm always wanting to to

00:34:05.060 to pause my workout so that i can pull the video up and see exactly what it is uh you guys are talking

00:34:10.200 about but one of the other things that that really makes it must uh must listen must watch stuff uh for

00:34:17.440 me is is is the spiciness of it right it's like you you guys are uncowed you are unafraid uh there are

00:34:25.620 there are issues that come up that you raise which a lot of people find to be third rail issues uh

00:34:31.800 especially recently i think one of the greatest examples was the um was the israel uh funding issue

00:34:38.160 a lot of people have have you know historically uh neoconservative interventionist takes on this and

00:34:44.660 and you guys attitude towards it i think is actually the balance take right which is no we

00:34:50.320 don't want israel to disappear but at the same time hello like this country cannot just keep giving

00:34:55.380 billions and billions of dollars away and you do it with this verve you do it with this panache um that

00:35:00.300 i just think i think if if my one sales pitch for you guys um to the audience could be could be you

00:35:06.640 know concentrate into one thing it's it's that it's that willingness to to be a you know i wouldn't

00:35:14.700 even say unpopular because i think you actually guys take popular positions that just other people

00:35:18.580 are a little bit too afraid to do so kudos to you on that it's it's that it's that bravery i think that

00:35:24.100 makes that makes the show which is a comedy show at the end of the day um such required uh viewing

00:35:30.320 uh thank you for saying that yeah we find um we find that the takes we have maybe they're not the

00:35:36.760 most popular or maybe certain groups need to avoid them for certain reasons we don't have any of uh

00:35:42.840 that ceiling on our show like uh the national pulse and you guys you never tell me what to say or what

00:35:47.800 not to say um we've been pretty consistent the whole time and we also find creative ways to say what

00:35:54.020 we need to say without getting deleted so when we're talking about election fraud or something like

00:35:58.520 that i'll say oh i had this horrible dream last night that the democrats were going to use mail-in

00:36:03.880 ballots to send in millions of illegal votes for joe biden in my dream so so when youtube watches and

00:36:10.640 tries to delete me they kind of can't technically and then other times too we just make jokes about

00:36:16.300 um certain opinions that maybe if you delivered in a more straightforward way would get you deleted

00:36:21.280 or have a media matters article written up about you or a new york times piece but because we say it

00:36:26.460 in kind of a way that we don't take ourselves too seriously and it's casual and it's in a joking

00:36:30.920 manner we kind of get away with it too and what we've realized lately especially is you know we

00:36:36.760 touch a lot of the lgbt topics the trans stuff and we'll make jokes about people or about situations 0.85

00:36:42.900 and if the left wants to get mad about that my response would be oh okay yeah you're right that was

00:36:49.000 a little rude or maybe a little insensitive but for some reason the left when they you know uh

00:36:54.700 cast these judgments and trying to get people in trouble they have to jump to the conclusion that 0.96

00:36:59.280 you're the worst possible human you're irredeemably horrible you're a racist you're homophobic or 0.95

00:37:04.140 whatever when in reality it could just be oh you didn't like that joke it was a little rude so we 1.00

00:37:09.740 really try to balance it in a way where we don't get in trouble but we don't hold back either

00:37:14.560 yeah i think that's so important i think the the one of the things that i you know watch that

00:37:20.800 tucker carlson speech live in person at the app gala uh this year and one of the things that

00:37:25.980 that always strikes me about about tucker is the happy warrior element to it now i am not that guy

00:37:30.880 as a lot of people recognize i am very much the angry warrior i am angry from the moment i wake up

00:37:35.860 in the morning it's something to do with working for stephen k bannon most of my adult life that has

00:37:39.960 inculcated their anger within me and i i find it very difficult to separate from my from my day-to-day

00:37:45.300 life and my day-to-day opinions uh but you guys have that right and i remember i remember andrew

00:37:50.060 breitbart very much had that obviously as i mentioned tucker carlson has that nigel farage 0.53

00:37:54.460 very much has that he is very much the happy warrior uh cannot stand when people uh take

00:37:59.580 themselves too seriously and uh and and we've often butted heads um on that basis but but i want to ask

00:38:05.600 you this because it's very rare that i get to to interview uh the great flaccus i want to ask you

00:38:11.460 you know when you are when you are being light-hearted when you are being tongue-in-cheek about

00:38:17.660 about these issues that that ruin people's lives a lot of them right the transgender stuff is ruining 1.00

00:38:22.560 people's lives the election certainly ruined many people's lives when when you have that comedic

00:38:28.020 element to it how how difficult is it to sort of shove down the the righteous indignation and to

00:38:36.300 present with levity it is difficult especially after all these years of doing this i've seen so

00:38:43.760 many clips i've seen pretty much everything that's been on the internet uh that's been viral or

00:38:49.440 important over the last few years so it is difficult to uh bring that happy energy every time but i kind

00:38:55.780 of know that if i can keep my frequency high and keep my emotions in control then people who are watching

00:39:03.000 they can get more out of it than if i'm mad because we have enough people who are mad delivering things

00:39:08.760 right down the barrel of the camera with like stern look on their face so if i can offer the

00:39:14.480 light-hearted version of it i think that'll do uh more good in the long term so that's kind of how

00:39:20.140 we've approached it uh it doesn't really do us any good to be mad and like we need certain people to be

00:39:26.200 mad for sure like there's different characters and they all play different roles uh you know in this

00:39:31.160 spear uh but for me and richard rap boy we know that ours is comedy first and it kind of lets people

00:39:39.080 not feel like the world's about to end because we are very optimistic even when things are at their

00:39:45.020 worst after the 2020 election or with covid there's always a light at the end of the tunnel because once

00:39:49.920 there's no hope and then we can't be optimistic anymore that's kind of where our opponents and the

00:39:55.320 devil and our enemies want us so we're delusionally optimistic to the point where we're kind of you

00:40:01.820 know almost like schizoing and trying to figure out what's going to happen next uh but we're always

00:40:06.840 very very optimistic and i think a big key uh with this is we know a lot of people who don't have the

00:40:13.500 same social circles we have like for myself you know richard rap boy is my best friend i hang out

00:40:18.800 with dc drano i have a typical liberal from instagram he's another great friend of mine so everyone is so

00:40:24.120 politically involved and on the right side of you know the issue but a lot of people don't have that

00:40:30.560 they have to keep their mouth shut at work they have to keep their mouth shut in school they don't

00:40:34.420 have a social circle full of friends that think like them so for them when they tune in twice a week

00:40:39.840 it's kind of an opportunity for them to just hang out with the boys and have a good time and laugh a

00:40:45.140 little bit and see what's going on and pick up some news along the way uh so that's the kind of role

00:40:50.080 we're trying to uh provide for people is be like a be your your social network your friend group that

00:40:55.900 a lot of people don't actually have

00:40:57.580 your your your floridian algonquin round table there i think right um fleckers tell the audience

00:41:07.520 where they can um where they can follow you where they can sign up what the url is so on and so forth

00:41:13.320 yep so on all social media it's at fleckers f-l-e-c-c-a-s on youtube it's fleckers talks

00:41:21.220 we have a new episode every tuesday and friday at 11 a.m eastern uh public episode and then we also

00:41:27.140 have bonus land episodes 30 minute bonus land episodes after every public episode at fleckers

00:41:32.680 talks.com uh we're very happy and grateful to be partnered with the national pulse uh no better team

00:41:38.900 out there in my opinion the uh the feeling is more than mutual uh fleckers and say uh say hello

00:41:46.360 to we'll we'll get into this another time i want to hear the origin of richard rat boy but we'll get

00:41:51.400 into that another time uh fleckers fleckers talks.com thanks so much for joining us here on the war room

00:41:56.860 boxing day special thank you rahim all right ladies and gentlemen just one more segment to go hold on

00:42:04.500 tight we've got uh let's talk about some of the predictions that we made over the course

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00:43:49.160 action action ron desantis to 10 midsummer ron desantis by 10 midsummer you're wearing the same

00:44:00.300 shirt right now you were in that video weren't you i haven't changed you actually haven't changed

00:44:06.560 so you said ron desantis but let's let's go through this ron desantis to 10 by midsummer you didn't say

00:44:16.260 fall you didn't say winter you didn't ambiguously uh state this you actually put a time frame on it

00:44:22.400 ron desantis to 10 by midsummer tell me rahim as we woke up this morning one of the big things that

00:44:27.740 we always do i've noticed that you've gotten to do it i do it trump does it over on true social we go

00:44:32.100 and check the polls we go and check the latest numbers what are the latest numbers today

00:44:36.220 ron desantis on 10 midsummer it's okay so walk us through what what is the poll that has this

00:44:47.160 okay we've got it up there today um and this poll not only is it ron desantis 10 it's actually vivek

00:44:54.800 ramaswamy 11.4 percent rahim how did this happen and not only that how did you know that this was going

00:45:05.020 to happen well look there there are a couple things you need to bear in mind here the first

00:45:10.100 thing to bear in mind here is you always look at the sample sizes there's a 2 000 person poll which

00:45:15.240 puts it at about double the sample size of most of the daily tracking polls that you get you then look

00:45:20.840 at the margin of error it's the margin of error i think i'm just going to look it up here very quick

00:45:24.400 make sure i get the number right 2.6 percent which is smaller than than most of your daily tracker

00:45:30.260 polls which have margins of error between 3.6 five percent sometimes even but then the third thing

00:45:36.960 actually takes away a little bit uh from the polls you know necessary credibility in this area that is

00:45:42.560 to say that the polling company that did this poll um i don't know how you pronounce signal i guess but

00:45:49.200 it's spelled weird um you have to bear in mind that signals vp brock mccleary is actually a pollster for

00:45:55.240 the vivek campaign so so vivek's numbers you know you've got to take with a pinch of salt here

00:46:00.740 but but in the grand scheme of things the trajectory is correct the uh what we've been seeing in terms

00:46:08.500 of the shifting of momentum uh really really deeply away from ron de santis since since he announced his

00:46:15.060 campaign um tracks with this and then the other thing you have to bear in mind is you're going to

00:46:20.200 start seeing more data coming out like this it started remember we were we were mid-20s uh then

00:46:26.780 slipped a little bit then into the teens then 15 then 12 now we're at 10 it keeps going further and

00:46:34.400 further down so you know you can you can have some skepticism about this as as i do with every data set

00:46:40.680 that comes out whether it's attached to a campaign a pack or or independent and there's no real such

00:46:46.520 thing as independent um polling companies maybe maybe um you know you would say rasmussen is the

00:46:53.900 closest thing you'll get to that but um you'll start to see this number creep up more and more

00:46:58.660 and you'll start to see i think um single digit midget ron within you know within a couple of weeks

00:47:04.740 maybe a month's time the one and only raheem ghassan raheem thanks for being with me thank you for

00:47:10.080 having me back i suppose if i'd got things wrong i wouldn't have come back oh well let me tell you

00:47:13.920 something you keep getting it right and we're like oh we text back and forth and it's like okay

00:47:18.420 he predicted this i mean twitter's even noticing they're like oh this is what raheem said exactly

00:47:22.600 what's going to happen so you were on um and you predicted that everything basically that we're

00:47:27.260 seeing happen in the primary and about de santis's uh campaign you predicted it all it's just coming

00:47:33.860 true it's happening in real uh real time they've known for days and days now that this place is going

00:47:37.820 to fall the russian government's going to call it in a matter of moments right but the interesting

00:47:42.380 thing is they keep talking about spring offensive spring offensive spring offensive there's no spring

00:47:46.400 offensive let me tell you something there is no it's it's and and here's the tell on that one

00:47:51.440 the biden government the biden regime has gone back and said that they are devaluing the weapons that

00:47:59.220 were sent over there in the first place so that they can do some uh financial jiggery pokery and and give

00:48:05.340 more without giving more that's how you know that they are not they're not ready for a spring offensive

00:48:10.300 well a couple of those clips that we pulled and i want to thank uh the the great team at the

00:48:18.500 national pulse thank ann lutti for pulling those clips for us uh for this war and boxing day special

00:48:23.620 just just a couple of the what we call the hashtag raheem raheem was right clips there and the reason i

00:48:31.360 wanted to play those for you as well was because i i do want to use this moment to kind of showcase

00:48:35.820 what we do right a lot of people think oh you know the national pulse raheem kassam that whole

00:48:40.500 operation over there is just kind of a another one of these conservative news sites that's that's not

00:48:45.200 what we're really trying to do what we're trying to do and i think what we've shown prowess over the

00:48:50.040 last couple of years you look at a lot of the fauci stuff when natalie winters was back working for us

00:48:54.620 a lot of the covid stuff um certainly a lot of the ccp stuff and over the last year you saw 0.96

00:49:00.200 um ron de santis and and that whole that whole charade ukraine the spring offensive i think i said

00:49:07.120 that back in back in april um on this show that it wasn't going to happen it wasn't going to work

00:49:12.200 out uh we have developed you know i've worked i've worked in this area political communications all of

00:49:18.280 that now for for over a decade well over a decade and uh and we've learned to develop those

00:49:24.040 this kind of antenna for these for these for bs quite frankly it's why we are the first really

00:49:29.980 to call it out every single time jan 6th the national pulse was the very first news outlet

00:49:34.460 to walk through the timeline and completely debunk what they were saying and look at this couple of

00:49:38.460 years later everybody's being forced to come out and say yeah well actually you know maybe it wasn't

00:49:42.720 quite the way it happened i mean credit credit to vivek ramaswamy for standing up on the debate stage

00:49:47.140 in a cnn town hall and saying these things but we were saying these things years ago and that's

00:49:53.140 really what we're trying to do we are an early warning system right it's it's it's i don't know

00:49:58.300 raheem's radar the great team jack montgomery uh sandy st john uh everybody that makes it possible

00:50:05.220 um our partners we work with a lot of partners we work with some wonderful partners making that uh trump

00:50:11.620 interview happen at mar-a-lago just the best film team the logan circle group who produced that for us

00:50:18.560 and also all the producers and the production team and the management team over at

00:50:22.580 real america's voice the studio producers here cameron and and everybody else and they

00:50:27.780 they everybody is a part of making this thing work and you're a part of it too right because

00:50:34.460 you know rolex ain't gonna come and try and take out an ad on the nationalpulse.com bugatti is not

00:50:40.700 interested right like the places that are taking out those big ads in the atlantic magazine and the

00:50:46.420 financial times and and what have you they ain't coming to the national pulse because they don't want to be

00:50:52.240 associated with truth telling at the end of the day right for them it's the regime it's the constant

00:50:58.880 lie it's the big lies over and over again and so on this boxing day i suggest to you uh i submit to you

00:51:07.040 uh that supporting everything that you see before you whether it's through the war room whether it's

00:51:12.080 all the guests that come on here um the sponsors uh the nationalpulse.com forward slash war room to

00:51:18.980 sign up remember your first month is free that these are things that are imperative so that we

00:51:23.620 can do more of that right more of telling you the truth before it happens more of projecting what's

00:51:29.000 going to happen that affects your day-to-day lives before it happens before the new york times is ready 0.92

00:51:34.200 to admit it before the washington post is ready to admit it before these clowns on capitol hill

00:51:38.680 are willing to assail falsehoods so thank you for joining us over these final 0.57

00:51:43.620 couple of hours on the war rooms boxing day special the nationalpulse.com i've been rahim kassam

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Bannon's War Room - December 26, 2023

Episode 3274： A Boxing Day Special

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