Episode 3274： A Boxing Day Special
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In this special Boxing Day special, we are joined by one of The National Pulse's writers Will Upton to discuss his time on the plane with President Donald J. Trump, his time with him on the campaign trail, and what it was like to sit on his plane on his way back from a campaign stop in DC.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
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where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
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is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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warm new york christmas welcome to the 45th 46th and 47th president of the united states of america
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raheem kasam raheem where is raheem what a good job you do
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welcome to the second hour you're in the war room for this boxing day special i'm raheem
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kasam editor-in-chief of the national pulse.com we're going to be joined by one of our writers
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will upton in just a moment but i just wanted to i just wanted to make mention of that again i
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i have been posting it every day on my on my instagram my social media just just for the haters
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and losers especially a lot of the a lot of team desantis doesn't like that did not like the shout out
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uh to the national pulse from from president donald j trump but we were so honored by it
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and um and i had no idea it was coming either by the way so i was i was sitting right at the front
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right at the rope line right underneath him as he uh as he's doing his speech and he's he's giving
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a shout out to a few people his shout out to uh paul ingracia and to jack pasobic and and he shouts
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me out and i was running around all over the place i'm quite involved with the uh new york gang
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republican club so i i volunteer thrown where i can to make sure that things run smoothly they have
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such a great team over there they don't need me anyway but but you know what i'm like i'm a little
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bit of a little bit of an interventionist in that sense and uh and and stick my oar in sometimes where
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it's not wanted i'm sure but but just to help things run a little smoother uh and if i see if i
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see anything going on that i can help with um i tend to do that and i was running all around uh
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during that gala just trying to trying to help out as you heard i gave the introduction to him
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and then i come over to my table i sit down at my seat and um was just kind of catching my breath
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catching up to it all and so i thought i heard my name and then so i stand up and i give him a you
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know thumbs up and a little salute thank you and i sat down and went to the person sitting next to me i
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said uh i said he did say my name that would have been pretty bad if he had said somebody else's and
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i'd got up and give it away but we we got there in the um we got there in the uh in the clip after
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that just to make sure i had to hear it again and now i like to hear it every day it was such a
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great honor as well and as i said in the last hour uh having had the chance to interview him
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having had the chance to to sit on the plane with him and chat with him um you know i i have been
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in this business now for for quite some time as as by the way uh has my next guest and i can i can
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tell you this uh there's there's pizzazz right there's the x factor there are the people that
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have and the people that don't and you look across the western world at the moment and i've worked for
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for nigel farage i was his senior advisor in the run-up to uh brexit and you look across the western
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world at the moment and you you see it and unfortunately i think you see it uh on that gop primary
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debate stage as well in these town halls that they've been doing too is is there really there
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really are not that many people uh with that x factor you know nigel being one of them but donald
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trump uh just just just massive massive stage presence massive global presence and that was
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one of the things that i wanted to ask him and i did ask him uh in the interview we did with him so
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if you haven't seen that yet by the way it's on rumble it's on youtube it's on x uh it's on
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the national pulse.com make sure you check it out um that uh that long interview they gave us a lot
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of time on that interview as well so i was honored honored to do it and we're also going to be putting
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out uh the national pulse's first print magazine in the first quarter uh of 2024 uh with a with a with
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a far longer written word piece by me about what exactly it was like and the little details that
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people miss how do you how do you end up in that position what are your obligations um you know what
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is it like going through in the morning and standing outside that plane you know i got to ride on trump
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force one and of course secret service comes by and you do the sweep and then you know all of these
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little details that that are just fascinating quite frankly um as if you haven't experienced it before
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and i hadn't so so to do that was such a great honor but i want to impart to you guys uh there what
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that's like as well it's so important not just for not just for you know contemporaneous interest but
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it's important for history as well right there are so many people that are paid to besmirch uh donald
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trump and the muggle movement there are so many people who are out there whose sole focus is to
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tear it down and to to poke holes in it and all of that and i think for the importance of history
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so that your uh kids and grandkids and great-grandkids and further down the line understand that the the
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counter point to all of that uh that we get those things down in writing we get those things down in
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print and like i say if you want to sign up at the national pulse.com forward slash warham you'll
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get that that first print edition in the early part of next year um i i feel that about so many
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things and one of the things that i want to do over the course of 2024 i i like to have very lofty goals
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every year i don't call them resolutions they're not resolutions because i work on them all year round
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for the next year sometimes i get to them sometimes i don't we all know what that feels like
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but one of the things i want to do next year is build on that idea that i just said
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and actually have an entire book dedicated to that process to that election cycle to the man himself
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to the team around him so i'm just trying to kind of find my way into getting some buy-in
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from team trump to do that book at the moment so if any of you have a uh have a tweet in you or a truth
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post or anything like that uh that could help nudge them in that direction and allow me to kind of
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play historian uh then i encourage you uh to do so don't bother them by the way don't harass them
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but uh just an idea let's bring um let's bring one of our writers in from the national pulse now
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will upton joins us will you've been around uh the political world for a very long time just
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just tell our audience about about you and your trajectory real quick
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yeah i've i've worked here in dc for 15 years now um did a stand at the treasury department under
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president trump uh prior to that i've worked in public relations and state level lobbying for
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yeah and and and your your philosophical trajectory will
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yeah uh you know coming out of college i was kind of more of the the ron paul libertarian type
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uh but over the years yeah i've sort of become very much and more of the populist mold um somebody
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that kind of admires the work of pat mucannon president trump um you know sort of woken up on the
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issues of trade and mass immigration and the impacts that those have on non-american workers in the american
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one of the big um big moments i think for the populist uh for the populist side of the gop this
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this year was um the deposing of kevin mccarthy and i've said it i've said it for a long time now
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i i never fully understood how uh you know a conservative from california could end up leading
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uh the gop you know and i say could not just in a in a logistical sense as how how he got there but
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actually how with with any moral purpose given the positions that kevin mccarthy has has staked out
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over the last uh several years of his career how that how that was tenable and we of course saw the
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saw him run up against that that wall of of how tenable it really is this year so i want to talk
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to you about that that was obviously one of the major moments of this year uh and then in the next
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segment we'll talk about some of the some of the other major moments the indictments uh particularly
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to get a little bit more a little bit more political in this hour than in the last but let's talk
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about that because when it happened i genuinely couldn't believe will the level of hatred coming
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at matt gates i mean we were we were with him reporting uh on on his you know pseudo scandal the
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fake scandal the hoax scandal of his from from last year this was something entirely new there were there
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were i mean i don't have much respect for him now i mean i've said this for years by the way
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but but i couldn't believe people like kaylee mckinney and and others going on television and
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and making the single most lurid and false allegations about gates against the backdrop of
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all that they weren't attacking his politics they weren't attacking even what he was doing
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uh with kevin mccarthy they were attacking him personally and making a lot of it up so so take us
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through that period because for you i mean i gotta tell the audience this before i throw it to you will
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for you i mean will was all over it for the national polls he was every single day um
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he was i i i think the word giddy uh applies here will uh at the processes that you were seeing out
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the parliamentary processes that you were seeing playing out so talk to us a little bit about it
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yeah so you know kevin mccarthy was a california republican became speaker mostly because he was a
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prolific fundraiser um the guy had massive connections to silicon valley tech companies
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um major agricultural firms he his course's district was in sort of the agricultural heart
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of california um so this made him very appealing to sort of your your rank and file uh member to sort
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of go along with for being speaker despite his politics because he was able to raise just
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google's amounts of money uh to help republicans in their re-election efforts
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um now unfortunately he didn't have the the you know the sound politics to go along with being
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a republican speaker um and after caving on on a debt limit deal uh which seems to be kind of the
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final straw combined with um um also basically acknowledging we'd have probably have to do a cr
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uh to fund the government something he directly promised he would not do um that that kind of spurred
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matt gates uh to use this sort of archaic parliamentary procedure called a motion to
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vacate uh to oust uh mccarthy as speaker now when mccarthy was first elected speaker um back in january
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of 2023 uh the motion to vacate rule was actually changed as part of the agreement to secure the votes
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he needed um so that it only needed one member to bring the motion it lowered the threshold dramatically
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uh which let gates sort of make this move that we saw later in the year
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do you think that was always his plan or do you think if if mccarthy had well had done what he had
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promised to do originally that that gates would have and and the others it wasn't just matt gates
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but the gates and the others would have kind of allowed him to to continue on as speaker
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i i think they would have let him continue on but i i think ultimately the reality was mccarthy
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was never going to to fulfill his promise i guess just the nature of and now and now of the man and
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his yes and now he's out but but he told us he told us that he never stops fighting right he told us that
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he never gives up he never stops fighting he went in front of the cameras he said that remember he i think
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he tweeted or posted at matt gates said bring it and and and it got brought well and then the the
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aftermath of that i think was was the second time i've seen will truly giddy which was which was the
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picking of the new speaker right and and for days and days we had no idea you know who it was going
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to be how we were going to get there and lots of names scalese and jordan and all of these guys talk
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us through a little bit of how how that all took place and what will upton's perspective was
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yeah so you know this is the first time in american history a speaker was ousted via a motion to vacate
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the last time the procedure was used was over a hundred years ago uh it was used by the then
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speaker himself as sort of a show of power um to sort of re-entrench himself um by defeating his own
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motion um but you know we were sort of in uncharted territory in congress uh it took him about three
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weeks to select a new speaker uh and the entire time kevin mccarthy was actually operating behind
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the scenes undermining the various candidates um and kind of an attempt to pave the way for his own
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return as speaker um and especially he was he was upset with the candidacies of steve scalese and jim
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jordan who mccarthy sees as two individuals that were responsible for sort of preventing him from
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becoming speaker um the when john bainer actually retired um and he blames them for paving the way
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for paul ryan to sort of do an end run around him uh and become speaker so right from the start mccarthy
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was never going to let either scalese or jordan uh become speaker which is sort of how we we got into
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this weird position where uh a relatively unknown member to the general public but for those who you
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observe congress uh mike johnson who's a sort of semi has one foot in the in the conservative sort
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of policy camp with the rsc and the freedom caucus and another foot in the the camp with the defense
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appropriators that's sort of how it paves the way for this guy to be able to kind of
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couple together a winning coalition yeah let's um let's take a quick break there will and we'll uh
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we'll come back and talk more about that and more about the indictments that we saw take place over
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this year talking about unprecedented uh there was a lot this year and there's going to be a whole lot
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plus um movement will have austin fletcher the famous the infamous flackers talks joining us in just a
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moment too so well where we where we left off was what happened on capitol hill that great as you say
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unprecedented removal of a speaker what has the feeling been like in washington dc on capitol hill
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since that all happened i know mike johnson also has his detractors he's also uh put a couple of uh
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placed a couple of missteps let's say let's be kind it's boxing day after all i will be a bit generous
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with him a couple of missteps uh but what has the general mood been like before we dive into the
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indictments it's been tense still um you know we we saw there was an incident where mccarthy actually
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sort of kidney punched uh congressman burchett uh republican from tennessee um you know speaker
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johnson has had his his missteps especially um in terms of sort of focal support for ukraine aid
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um though he's walked that back a bit and has tied it very heavily to um uh the adoption of hr2 which is
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the house border security bill um and and he's also had some missteps in terms of you know allowing
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the fees of reauthorization to be wrapped into the national defense authorization act um and then a few
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other things but overall there's also kind of i think a bit of contentness with it because he he is a
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weak speaker he's not sort of one of these stronger speakers that dominates the republican conference
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and sort of sets the agenda um he's much more reliant on the committee chairman he's much more reliant on
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rank and file members um and he he isn't and just by virtue of his lack of experience uh within
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leadership he he isn't sort of um directing uh the conference on what to do
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i remember one of the things that you said at the time was this thing about and perhaps you can
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explain it for me um as much as explaining for our audience you said this thing about the the
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was it the defense appropriators and and the necessity to have them on board what what what
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what is that why is that why why does a congressman who is being you know told he's going to be the next
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speaker why does he need to have this kind of like these faceless appropriators on board
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yeah so there's there's there's an old joke that there's actually three parties in congress
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um there's there's republicans democrats and the appropriators um the appropriators tend to act more
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as their own entity um they they you know are the ones who put together the federal budget every year
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um and sort of direct funding including earmarks uh for other members as well into their districts
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um so they they hold a lot of sway and a lot of power um the the other thing too is for for johnson
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the math worked out that he basically needed them on board uh he wasn't going to get the backing
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of of sort of the hardcore mccarthy block um so in order to get to the 200 i believe it was at the time 18
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votes um to actually be elected speaker he essentially needed the republican defense appropriators
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to come on board and support him so a lot of speculation has kind of gone into that and it
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does appear to be true um that that he cut a deal with them to basically at least attempt to bring
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a ukraine defense supplemental to the floor uh which he has done he's attempted to do it it just hasn't
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gone anywhere yeah yeah well certainly lots to um lots to play for and unfortunately uh it seems like
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lots to pay for um in in 2024 let's um let's switch gears here a little bit and talk about this um
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this big indictment story got about five minutes here so let's let's dive into that obviously the
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biggest story of this year will i just ask you the obvious question in your lifetime did you see a
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former president of the united states being not just indicted but indicted for what is very clearly
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very very obviously a a partisan attack a weaponization of the legal systems of the united states
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against a former president i i i would never imagine this situation uh it's
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shocking is is really not even an appropriate word for it just how damaging this is to our republic
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does it it's such a great point because i think a lot of people have watched this show constantly
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in the weeds on the on the details of all of these things possibly even more so than you or i you know
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i know a lot of the war and posse a lot of the audience are all day every day going through the
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documents themselves and and reading up is there a way back from this is is there a way to to stop
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this happening again what does that look like i i'm not sure there is honestly you know we have this
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sort of habit in u.s politics that once a precedent is set um you sort of open up the floodgates um
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you know it's why the supreme court why the u.s courts in general are always so careful
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to sort of allow these sort of things to and usually to happen um but so many people within
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sort of the liberal political sphere have developed the extreme trump derangement syndrome that they're
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no longer sort of able to consider the implications or consequences of of this lawfare that they've engaged
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in you say that but then you know you look at you look at the way that republicans kind of are playing
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with the with the impeachment inquiry into joe biden and it does feel a lot like kid gloves right there's
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a lot more evidence of wrongdoing there's a lot more evidence of compromise uh in the biden family
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the biden crime syndicate quite frankly than there ever was with trump and russia and any of this stuff
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and yet uh you know it comes back to our last topic perhaps in in in small part but the the
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machinations on capitol hill shouldn't preclude republicans from actually going after uh the
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details of this guy and and and yes yes post mccarthy we've had a little bit of expediency
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but not too much will yeah i mean republicans on capitol hill have a tendency to be a bit feckless
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um they sort of for for years the gop has been the party of not just limited government but small
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government um and they've shied away from actually using uh the power that the constitution grants them
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um both in congress and you know until trump they they were afraid to use it in the white house for
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the most part um there were a few bush attorneys that argued for presidential authority but you know
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in general republicans have almost been afraid of the of their constitutional powers um
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maybe we're just slow adopters um i i hope that will change and i hope we will see the party get
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more aggressive but you know i think that is a fair point that they have not responded to biden with
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the same degree of vitriol as we saw the democrats respond to trump and both of their impeachments
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and then after his presidency as well yeah well well we're um we're um delighted that you're on
00:26:28.820
board that you're at the national pulse with us um let uh let our audience know where they can follow
00:26:34.580
you how they can get to more of your work uh and also any any final uh closing thoughts here
00:26:39.740
yeah um you know you can read out my stories at the national pulse.com uh you can also find me on
00:26:46.920
on x formerly known as twitter um at uh at w-u-p-t-o-n uh at whoopton um and that's the the
00:26:56.440
well really appreciate it uh will upton uh one of our great uh great reporters and editor at the
00:27:05.160
the national pulse.com thank you for joining us here and walking us through those two massive stories
00:27:10.120
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00:27:16.220
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00:27:35.360
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00:27:41.080
too many ads too much churn quite frankly churn just oh this silly person said silly thing on
00:27:49.220
television that's a story well no we're a little bit more discerning than that we bring you the news
00:27:54.180
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00:28:01.160
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00:28:05.320
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00:28:10.080
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00:28:15.960
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00:28:22.940
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00:28:34.540
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00:28:41.180
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00:28:48.080
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00:29:13.920
the host of the fleckers talks podcast part of the pulse plus network fleckers himself thanks for
00:29:22.480
joining us here on this war room boxing day special good to be here raheem as president trump says
00:29:28.820
raheem where's raheem he said i love that and i may make it i may make it part of working at the
00:29:39.340
pulse plus by the way that everybody has to call me raheem from now on um yeah fleckers the uh the show
00:29:46.740
for people that don't know uh is is absolutely on fire it is one of the best kind of culture and
00:29:54.100
politics overlaps shows i think around i think probably the best as far as i'm concerned i think
00:29:59.620
it's the funniest it's always on point you guys always have the best commentary the best clips
00:30:04.600
everything up to date um and and and also i understand that you guys have a gift uh subscription
00:30:11.260
that people can take out as well if they're already um if they're already part of it they can go to
00:30:15.880
fleckers talks.com and find out more about that but but for the audience uh who may not know a lot
00:30:22.560
about uh what you guys do just talk us through fleckers talks how it started what you guys are up to
00:30:28.940
how often you're putting this show out and then we'll get into the the specifics as to as to why
00:30:34.040
why are you doing this and why do you find so much gratification in it over to you fleckers
00:30:38.220
absolutely um yeah so the fleckers talks the podcast we started a couple years ago in 2021
00:30:45.200
about this time in 2021 and uh my channel originally started out as a man on the street reporter
00:30:52.080
channel i was living in los angeles uh i was it was 2016 2017 with the trump election and i started
00:30:59.220
doing man on the street reporting where i would interview people who were protesting trump and then
00:31:03.980
all my friends in la said hey you can't do this you can't support trump you're never going to get hired
00:31:08.480
in la you can't be a comedian if you do this and i kind of was faced with the decision do i go
00:31:13.640
you know with my gut and what i think is right or do i kind of keep my mouth shut and try and get a
00:31:19.280
traditional job in la and i went with my gut i started doing these man in the streets uh they
00:31:24.440
got really popular really viral uh it actually encouraged another generation of man on the street
00:31:29.560
reporters as well which i was really excited about which was my bigger goal uh and then i did that for a
00:31:35.060
while i built my audience up uh so i did that from 2017 to 2020 and then after 2020 obviously the
00:31:42.300
election didn't go how it should have gone in my opinion there were definitely some issues there
00:31:47.780
uh so i decided to go off the street and start building my own show uh i partnered with my friend
00:31:54.020
richard rapoy who i've been friends with uh for 15 years we went to college together we played college
00:31:59.200
football together uh best friends so i knew him and i would be a good match for an on-camera show
00:32:05.380
uh and then we just started cranking them out once a week starting in 2021 uh it's about an hour and a
00:32:11.120
half long and the audience really enjoyed it the clips were really funny the comedy was on point and
00:32:17.800
we expanded to two times a week uh as of six months ago and now we're a partner with the national
00:32:24.540
pulse we're offering a ton of bonus content four hours of exclusive bonus content behind uh the
00:32:29.820
fleckatalks.com site uh which is really excited about but yeah right now we are just cranking the
00:32:36.380
show out uh we have i don't want to say the best takes but you know raheem you have the best takes
00:32:41.760
steve bannon has the best takes tucker carlson has the best takes and i would love to one day be
00:32:46.720
you know within that list of people with the best takes uh we got things correct really early we got
00:32:52.440
uh russia ukraine correct day one uh we got covid correct the whole time election discrepancies we got
00:32:59.240
correct ron desantis with his boots and the whole ron desantis debacle we got that correct so we take a
00:33:05.520
lot of pride in having the correct takes and having a pulse on the people uh knowing where the ball's
00:33:10.140
going and knowing what the people care about the mega base especially uh so those are our people the
00:33:15.420
audience has been growing we're doing more than a hundred thousand views per episode now all in which
00:33:20.220
we're really excited about wow uh and then yeah two times a week so tuesdays and fridays at 11 o'clock
00:33:26.060
eastern on my youtube channel is where you find the show itself yeah i have to be honest like i i
00:33:33.800
listen i'm an avid listener as you know i've been an avid listener since before we partnered with you
00:33:38.320
guys as well and and it's it's it's one of if it's one of my favorites if not my fate my single
00:33:45.100
favorite thing to listen to because and and i do the audio right i'm a i'm a podcast guy i listen to
00:33:50.020
it at the gym you can do that it's on all the podcast platforms as well ladies and gentlemen
00:33:53.380
flackers talks uh but but there's also such a visual element to this thing right there's there's
00:33:59.240
all these clips that you guys get together you have these hilarious segments i'm always wanting to to
00:34:05.060
to pause my workout so that i can pull the video up and see exactly what it is uh you guys are talking
00:34:10.200
about but one of the other things that that really makes it must uh must listen must watch stuff uh for
00:34:17.440
me is is is the spiciness of it right it's like you you guys are uncowed you are unafraid uh there are
00:34:25.620
there are issues that come up that you raise which a lot of people find to be third rail issues uh
00:34:31.800
especially recently i think one of the greatest examples was the um was the israel uh funding issue
00:34:38.160
a lot of people have have you know historically uh neoconservative interventionist takes on this and
00:34:44.660
and you guys attitude towards it i think is actually the balance take right which is no we
00:34:50.320
don't want israel to disappear but at the same time hello like this country cannot just keep giving
00:34:55.380
billions and billions of dollars away and you do it with this verve you do it with this panache um that
00:35:00.300
i just think i think if if my one sales pitch for you guys um to the audience could be could be you
00:35:06.640
know concentrate into one thing it's it's that it's that willingness to to be a you know i wouldn't
00:35:14.700
even say unpopular because i think you actually guys take popular positions that just other people
00:35:18.580
are a little bit too afraid to do so kudos to you on that it's it's that it's that bravery i think that
00:35:24.100
makes that makes the show which is a comedy show at the end of the day um such required uh viewing
00:35:30.320
uh thank you for saying that yeah we find um we find that the takes we have maybe they're not the
00:35:36.760
most popular or maybe certain groups need to avoid them for certain reasons we don't have any of uh
00:35:42.840
that ceiling on our show like uh the national pulse and you guys you never tell me what to say or what
00:35:47.800
not to say um we've been pretty consistent the whole time and we also find creative ways to say what
00:35:54.020
we need to say without getting deleted so when we're talking about election fraud or something like
00:35:58.520
that i'll say oh i had this horrible dream last night that the democrats were going to use mail-in
00:36:03.880
ballots to send in millions of illegal votes for joe biden in my dream so so when youtube watches and
00:36:10.640
tries to delete me they kind of can't technically and then other times too we just make jokes about
00:36:16.300
um certain opinions that maybe if you delivered in a more straightforward way would get you deleted
00:36:21.280
or have a media matters article written up about you or a new york times piece but because we say it
00:36:26.460
in kind of a way that we don't take ourselves too seriously and it's casual and it's in a joking
00:36:30.920
manner we kind of get away with it too and what we've realized lately especially is you know we
00:36:36.760
touch a lot of the lgbt topics the trans stuff and we'll make jokes about people or about situations
00:36:42.900
and if the left wants to get mad about that my response would be oh okay yeah you're right that was
00:36:49.000
a little rude or maybe a little insensitive but for some reason the left when they you know uh
00:36:54.700
cast these judgments and trying to get people in trouble they have to jump to the conclusion that
00:36:59.280
you're the worst possible human you're irredeemably horrible you're a racist you're homophobic or
00:37:04.140
whatever when in reality it could just be oh you didn't like that joke it was a little rude so we
00:37:09.740
really try to balance it in a way where we don't get in trouble but we don't hold back either
00:37:14.560
yeah i think that's so important i think the the one of the things that i you know watch that
00:37:20.800
tucker carlson speech live in person at the app gala uh this year and one of the things that
00:37:25.980
that always strikes me about about tucker is the happy warrior element to it now i am not that guy
00:37:30.880
as a lot of people recognize i am very much the angry warrior i am angry from the moment i wake up
00:37:35.860
in the morning it's something to do with working for stephen k bannon most of my adult life that has
00:37:39.960
inculcated their anger within me and i i find it very difficult to separate from my from my day-to-day
00:37:45.300
life and my day-to-day opinions uh but you guys have that right and i remember i remember andrew
00:37:50.060
breitbart very much had that obviously as i mentioned tucker carlson has that nigel farage
00:37:54.460
very much has that he is very much the happy warrior uh cannot stand when people uh take
00:37:59.580
themselves too seriously and uh and and we've often butted heads um on that basis but but i want to ask
00:38:05.600
you this because it's very rare that i get to to interview uh the great flaccus i want to ask you
00:38:11.460
you know when you are when you are being light-hearted when you are being tongue-in-cheek about
00:38:17.660
about these issues that that ruin people's lives a lot of them right the transgender stuff is ruining
00:38:22.560
people's lives the election certainly ruined many people's lives when when you have that comedic
00:38:28.020
element to it how how difficult is it to sort of shove down the the righteous indignation and to
00:38:36.300
present with levity it is difficult especially after all these years of doing this i've seen so
00:38:43.760
many clips i've seen pretty much everything that's been on the internet uh that's been viral or
00:38:49.440
important over the last few years so it is difficult to uh bring that happy energy every time but i kind
00:38:55.780
of know that if i can keep my frequency high and keep my emotions in control then people who are watching
00:39:03.000
they can get more out of it than if i'm mad because we have enough people who are mad delivering things
00:39:08.760
right down the barrel of the camera with like stern look on their face so if i can offer the
00:39:14.480
light-hearted version of it i think that'll do uh more good in the long term so that's kind of how
00:39:20.140
we've approached it uh it doesn't really do us any good to be mad and like we need certain people to be
00:39:26.200
mad for sure like there's different characters and they all play different roles uh you know in this
00:39:31.160
spear uh but for me and richard rap boy we know that ours is comedy first and it kind of lets people
00:39:39.080
not feel like the world's about to end because we are very optimistic even when things are at their
00:39:45.020
worst after the 2020 election or with covid there's always a light at the end of the tunnel because once
00:39:49.920
there's no hope and then we can't be optimistic anymore that's kind of where our opponents and the
00:39:55.320
devil and our enemies want us so we're delusionally optimistic to the point where we're kind of you
00:40:01.820
know almost like schizoing and trying to figure out what's going to happen next uh but we're always
00:40:06.840
very very optimistic and i think a big key uh with this is we know a lot of people who don't have the
00:40:13.500
same social circles we have like for myself you know richard rap boy is my best friend i hang out
00:40:18.800
with dc drano i have a typical liberal from instagram he's another great friend of mine so everyone is so
00:40:24.120
politically involved and on the right side of you know the issue but a lot of people don't have that
00:40:30.560
they have to keep their mouth shut at work they have to keep their mouth shut in school they don't
00:40:34.420
have a social circle full of friends that think like them so for them when they tune in twice a week
00:40:39.840
it's kind of an opportunity for them to just hang out with the boys and have a good time and laugh a
00:40:45.140
little bit and see what's going on and pick up some news along the way uh so that's the kind of role
00:40:50.080
we're trying to uh provide for people is be like a be your your social network your friend group that
00:40:57.580
your your your floridian algonquin round table there i think right um fleckers tell the audience
00:41:07.520
where they can um where they can follow you where they can sign up what the url is so on and so forth
00:41:13.320
yep so on all social media it's at fleckers f-l-e-c-c-a-s on youtube it's fleckers talks
00:41:21.220
we have a new episode every tuesday and friday at 11 a.m eastern uh public episode and then we also
00:41:27.140
have bonus land episodes 30 minute bonus land episodes after every public episode at fleckers
00:41:32.680
talks.com uh we're very happy and grateful to be partnered with the national pulse uh no better team
00:41:38.900
out there in my opinion the uh the feeling is more than mutual uh fleckers and say uh say hello
00:41:46.360
to we'll we'll get into this another time i want to hear the origin of richard rat boy but we'll get
00:41:51.400
into that another time uh fleckers fleckers talks.com thanks so much for joining us here on the war room
00:41:56.860
boxing day special thank you rahim all right ladies and gentlemen just one more segment to go hold on
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00:42:08.820
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action action ron desantis to 10 midsummer ron desantis by 10 midsummer you're wearing the same
00:44:00.300
shirt right now you were in that video weren't you i haven't changed you actually haven't changed
00:44:06.560
so you said ron desantis but let's let's go through this ron desantis to 10 by midsummer you didn't say
00:44:16.260
fall you didn't say winter you didn't ambiguously uh state this you actually put a time frame on it
00:44:22.400
ron desantis to 10 by midsummer tell me rahim as we woke up this morning one of the big things that
00:44:27.740
we always do i've noticed that you've gotten to do it i do it trump does it over on true social we go
00:44:32.100
and check the polls we go and check the latest numbers what are the latest numbers today
00:44:36.220
ron desantis on 10 midsummer it's okay so walk us through what what is the poll that has this
00:44:47.160
okay we've got it up there today um and this poll not only is it ron desantis 10 it's actually vivek
00:44:54.800
ramaswamy 11.4 percent rahim how did this happen and not only that how did you know that this was going
00:45:05.020
to happen well look there there are a couple things you need to bear in mind here the first
00:45:10.100
thing to bear in mind here is you always look at the sample sizes there's a 2 000 person poll which
00:45:15.240
puts it at about double the sample size of most of the daily tracking polls that you get you then look
00:45:20.840
at the margin of error it's the margin of error i think i'm just going to look it up here very quick
00:45:24.400
make sure i get the number right 2.6 percent which is smaller than than most of your daily tracker
00:45:30.260
polls which have margins of error between 3.6 five percent sometimes even but then the third thing
00:45:36.960
actually takes away a little bit uh from the polls you know necessary credibility in this area that is
00:45:42.560
to say that the polling company that did this poll um i don't know how you pronounce signal i guess but
00:45:49.200
it's spelled weird um you have to bear in mind that signals vp brock mccleary is actually a pollster for
00:45:55.240
the vivek campaign so so vivek's numbers you know you've got to take with a pinch of salt here
00:46:00.740
but but in the grand scheme of things the trajectory is correct the uh what we've been seeing in terms
00:46:08.500
of the shifting of momentum uh really really deeply away from ron de santis since since he announced his
00:46:15.060
campaign um tracks with this and then the other thing you have to bear in mind is you're going to
00:46:20.200
start seeing more data coming out like this it started remember we were we were mid-20s uh then
00:46:26.780
slipped a little bit then into the teens then 15 then 12 now we're at 10 it keeps going further and
00:46:34.400
further down so you know you can you can have some skepticism about this as as i do with every data set
00:46:40.680
that comes out whether it's attached to a campaign a pack or or independent and there's no real such
00:46:46.520
thing as independent um polling companies maybe maybe um you know you would say rasmussen is the
00:46:53.900
closest thing you'll get to that but um you'll start to see this number creep up more and more
00:46:58.660
and you'll start to see i think um single digit midget ron within you know within a couple of weeks
00:47:04.740
maybe a month's time the one and only raheem ghassan raheem thanks for being with me thank you for
00:47:10.080
having me back i suppose if i'd got things wrong i wouldn't have come back oh well let me tell you
00:47:13.920
something you keep getting it right and we're like oh we text back and forth and it's like okay
00:47:18.420
he predicted this i mean twitter's even noticing they're like oh this is what raheem said exactly
00:47:22.600
what's going to happen so you were on um and you predicted that everything basically that we're
00:47:27.260
seeing happen in the primary and about de santis's uh campaign you predicted it all it's just coming
00:47:33.860
true it's happening in real uh real time they've known for days and days now that this place is going
00:47:37.820
to fall the russian government's going to call it in a matter of moments right but the interesting
00:47:42.380
thing is they keep talking about spring offensive spring offensive spring offensive there's no spring
00:47:46.400
offensive let me tell you something there is no it's it's and and here's the tell on that one
00:47:51.440
the biden government the biden regime has gone back and said that they are devaluing the weapons that
00:47:59.220
were sent over there in the first place so that they can do some uh financial jiggery pokery and and give
00:48:05.340
more without giving more that's how you know that they are not they're not ready for a spring offensive
00:48:10.300
well a couple of those clips that we pulled and i want to thank uh the the great team at the
00:48:18.500
national pulse thank ann lutti for pulling those clips for us uh for this war and boxing day special
00:48:23.620
just just a couple of the what we call the hashtag raheem raheem was right clips there and the reason i
00:48:31.360
wanted to play those for you as well was because i i do want to use this moment to kind of showcase
00:48:35.820
what we do right a lot of people think oh you know the national pulse raheem kassam that whole
00:48:40.500
operation over there is just kind of a another one of these conservative news sites that's that's not
00:48:45.200
what we're really trying to do what we're trying to do and i think what we've shown prowess over the
00:48:50.040
last couple of years you look at a lot of the fauci stuff when natalie winters was back working for us
00:48:54.620
a lot of the covid stuff um certainly a lot of the ccp stuff and over the last year you saw
00:49:00.200
um ron de santis and and that whole that whole charade ukraine the spring offensive i think i said
00:49:07.120
that back in back in april um on this show that it wasn't going to happen it wasn't going to work
00:49:12.200
out uh we have developed you know i've worked i've worked in this area political communications all of
00:49:18.280
that now for for over a decade well over a decade and uh and we've learned to develop those
00:49:24.040
this kind of antenna for these for these for bs quite frankly it's why we are the first really
00:49:29.980
to call it out every single time jan 6th the national pulse was the very first news outlet
00:49:34.460
to walk through the timeline and completely debunk what they were saying and look at this couple of
00:49:38.460
years later everybody's being forced to come out and say yeah well actually you know maybe it wasn't
00:49:42.720
quite the way it happened i mean credit credit to vivek ramaswamy for standing up on the debate stage
00:49:47.140
in a cnn town hall and saying these things but we were saying these things years ago and that's
00:49:53.140
really what we're trying to do we are an early warning system right it's it's it's i don't know
00:49:58.300
raheem's radar the great team jack montgomery uh sandy st john uh everybody that makes it possible
00:50:05.220
um our partners we work with a lot of partners we work with some wonderful partners making that uh trump
00:50:11.620
interview happen at mar-a-lago just the best film team the logan circle group who produced that for us
00:50:18.560
and also all the producers and the production team and the management team over at
00:50:22.580
real america's voice the studio producers here cameron and and everybody else and they
00:50:27.780
they everybody is a part of making this thing work and you're a part of it too right because
00:50:34.460
you know rolex ain't gonna come and try and take out an ad on the nationalpulse.com bugatti is not
00:50:40.700
interested right like the places that are taking out those big ads in the atlantic magazine and the
00:50:46.420
financial times and and what have you they ain't coming to the national pulse because they don't want to be
00:50:52.240
associated with truth telling at the end of the day right for them it's the regime it's the constant
00:50:58.880
lie it's the big lies over and over again and so on this boxing day i suggest to you uh i submit to you
00:51:07.040
uh that supporting everything that you see before you whether it's through the war room whether it's
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