U.S. forces have attacked Iranian-backed militant groups in Syria and Iraq in retaliation for a drone strike that injured American soldiers in the Middle East. What does this mean for the situation in the region? And who are these groups? And why are they supported by the Iranian regime?
00:00:00.000officials the attacks happened yesterday at a patrol base in syria there were no reported
00:00:05.000injuries or damage to infrastructure those rocket attacks in syria follow strikes in iraq carried
00:00:10.660out by the united states in retaliation for a drone attack that injured american soldiers
00:00:15.640nbc news correspondent ali arouzi reports on that from london so the u.s military has attacked
00:00:22.860iranian-backed militant groups in iraq hours after u.s personnel were injured in a drone strike
00:00:29.720on a u.s airbase on tuesday morning in iraq now the u.s defense secretary lloyd austen said three
00:00:36.740sites used by a group called khatib hezbollah were hit in response to attacks on u.s forces
00:00:43.240in iraq and syria so who are khatib hezbollah well they're financed and armed by iran and have been
00:00:50.880one of the most prominent groups involved in attacks on u.s targets in iraq for some time now
00:00:56.580uh it forms part of the hash al-shabi umbrella group of militias under iran's patronage
00:01:02.520that's also been incorporated into the iraqi army but these attacks are nothing new the u.s has
00:01:09.780repeatedly targeted sites links to militant groups in iraq and syria uh in recent years and depending
00:01:16.840on the political situation these can ebb and flow considerably now given what's going on in the
00:01:22.760region in the heightened tensions the attacks have dramatically increased since october 17th alone
00:01:29.740there have been over a hundred of these types of attacks by iranian-backed militias so as the
00:01:36.540conflict in gaza continues iran keeps issuing threats which are carried out by their proxies
00:01:42.520with alarming frequency these days whether that's the houthis disrupting shipping in the red sea
00:01:48.640or militias in the levant targeting u.s interests
00:01:52.300this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:02:03.340these people i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly
00:02:10.420full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world to stop
00:02:14.340that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
00:02:18.000to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience
00:02:26.160ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
00:02:33.500this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:02:40.240wednesday december 27th in the year of our lord 2023 you are still here in the war room and i guess
00:02:52.960we're getting a little literal with that we got drone strikes ballistic missiles cruise missiles you
00:02:58.540name it coming from a regime that oh wait i think just got tens of billions of dollars released to it
00:03:03.960from the biden regime not that long ago i believe just before the october 7th attacks in israel i'm
00:03:10.320of course talking about iran await the same country that also infiltrated the department of defense
00:03:15.860special envoy robert malley i guess he's still on paid leave we haven't heard anything about that story
00:03:21.440right i guess i'll just bury it say that it's misinformation not information miss information but
00:03:27.800luckily we got joe kent the one and only to join us to break all of that down for us now i'm curious
00:03:34.480joe your your thoughts on what we we see here it's unprecedented the scope the scale everything right
00:03:41.420well you mean yes and no i mean we've been under attack by the iranian proxy groups for quite a
00:03:47.300quite a long time as long as we've been in iraq but like you pointed out when we start handing
00:03:52.440billions of dollars to the iranian regime they're going to take advantage of this because we remain
00:03:58.200spread out throughout the middle east in these small outposts that really serve no purpose president
00:04:03.120trump attempted to get us out of syria he attempted to limit our ability to have bases inside of iraq
00:04:09.160and that would have taken away the iranians abilities to strike at us with their proxies but
00:04:13.380every time iran gets more money that joe biden gives them they simply spend it on their proxies and
00:04:18.640that msnbc anchor actually was uh really honest in his assessment he pointed out that kataba hasbal
00:04:24.340the iranian backed militia it is part of what's called the hasha dal shabi which is the iraqi
00:04:29.880military so we are funding the militias that are attacking and wounding our soldiers right now and
00:04:36.500threatening to draw us into a greater conflict in the middle east our mission in iraq and syria has
00:04:41.740been complete for a very long time now we failed catastrophically in iraq that's why iran controls
00:04:46.620that government the best thing we can do is pull our troops out of there to deprive the enemy deprive
00:04:51.180the iranians of targets and then also cut off the funding we send billions of dollars obviously to
00:04:56.640iran but through the government of iraq that is our biggest overseas embassy we send billions of
00:05:02.280dollars to the iraqi government so they can turn around and fund the militias that are attacking our
00:05:07.080troops biden is on every side of the conflict in the middle east and we are extremely vulnerable
00:05:12.480right now the retaliatory strikes that lloyd austin was talking about that he conducted
00:05:16.760these are purely for show we hit a couple targets way south of baghdad in babel province none of the
00:05:23.580kataba hezbollah leadership is there the kataba hezbollah leadership is sitting in the green zone
00:05:28.660next door to our absolute money pit of an embassy in the exact same fashion that the hamas leadership
00:05:35.460is sitting down the street from the u.s base in doha qatar so we are funding every single side of this
00:05:41.920and again blindly stumbling towards getting drawn into a broader conflict for absolutely no gain to
00:05:47.740the u.s government whatsoever the saying that everyone likes to invoke in this case is you know
00:05:53.860weakness invites aggression and while that may be true i don't even think that that's what we're
00:05:58.720dealing with here i think we're dealing with intentional weakness inviting coordinated aggression
00:06:04.420and you know look back to february 2021 one of the first moves that the biden regime did
00:06:09.680was take the houthis off of the designate designated terrorist group list and now
00:06:14.320they're attacking u.s interests our allies basically coming after commerce as usual coming after
00:06:21.080trade i'm just curious from your perspective as someone who's you know been both a boot on the
00:06:26.680ground but also you know you want to be obviously you're running for congress be more on the decision
00:06:31.520making side of things hopefully force some votes on repealing a ums and all that wonderful stuff but
00:06:37.580i'm just curious you know when you look and you see what's going on do you think the case is clear
00:06:43.340that this is intentional weakness or do you think that our allies are are just outsmarting us because
00:06:49.140we're more concerned with dei and drag shows you know what sort of the calculation here and how do we get
00:06:54.660out of it i think it's a lethal combination of both i mean the biden administration on multiple
00:07:00.760fronts as you pointed out is compromised and deeply infiltrated by the iranian government we've
00:07:05.320literally got iranian assets working in the national security council working at the pentagon
00:07:10.260but more dangerously in my opinion is we have people like sullivan and blinken who really bet their
00:07:15.380entire careers during the obama administration on this idea of extending the hand in the words of
00:07:21.340obama to iran and every time we extend our hand to the iranians they smack us best case scenario and
00:07:28.060so this is absolutely failed however the biden administration is dead set on some sort of a
00:07:32.900rapproachment with iran and then we set ourselves up into this lethal situation where we leave our
00:07:37.700troops deployed in iraq and syria because the military industrial complex and the folks that are in
00:07:42.040charge of the pentagon cannot let go of these middle eastern wars too many careers have been bet on
00:07:47.120this uh too much money is being made consistently on these wars especially after the afghan war was
00:07:53.080shut down so there's a lot of vested interests there but then also biden put us in an incredibly
00:07:57.740weak position by killing off u.s energy so not only did he give the iranians the bases in iraq and syria
00:08:03.660to shoot at but he also made the straits of hormuz the baba mandib the red sea absolutely critical
00:08:09.600for global oil supplies that we are now dependent on we didn't need to be dependent we could be offering
00:08:14.720an alternative to the world thus taking away a lot of the leverage that the iranians have but biden is
00:08:20.160dead set on taking away every single piece of leverage that we have whether it is u.s energy
00:08:25.460independence or whether it's leaving our southern border wide open you know taking folks off the
00:08:30.580terrorist list allowing hezbollah hamas and every single other terrorist organization potentially to
00:08:35.920infiltrate us from the south i mean basically when you look at every single move that biden makes
00:08:40.780the only question is is this incompetence or is this a deliberate plan and the way that they're
00:08:45.840moving in coordination i say it is all a very deliberate plan attempt an attempt to destroy
00:08:51.900our nation for one but then also to get us sucked back into a middle eastern war i think most of the
00:08:57.560players right now in this conflict in the middle east they stand to gain from us getting further and
00:09:03.400further involved in this especially going into an election year i think biden wants to be a wartime
00:09:07.920president and so he leaves us incredibly vulnerable over there all it's going to take is for a few
00:09:12.180more casualties in iraq or syria or a tragedy to take place in the red sea and we're going to find
00:09:16.680ourselves you know locked into another 20 plus years of needless bleeding in the middle east
00:09:22.620they're launching ballistic missiles cruise missiles drone attacks publicly you can only imagine
00:09:29.720what they're doing secretly behind closed doors with our porous open southern border you don't even
00:09:36.480want to know probably who they're letting in i think it was in november alone 17 individuals on
00:09:41.160the terror watch list that they caught who knows who else is coming in um but i'm just curious you're
00:09:47.360obviously running for congress i pray to god we have more voices like like yours uh come 2024 i guess
00:09:53.3602025 but specifically on the immigration issue it seems like that's going to be in january where a lot of the
00:09:59.040focus is on right whether it's ukraine aid securing the border i'm just curious your message to maybe
00:10:04.360your potential you know future colleagues how important is it that we secure the border particularly
00:10:10.460from this national security perspective you know when we talk about national security there's always
00:10:16.880like this nebulous idea of what our interests are are we fighting for democracy when the most vital
00:10:22.300national security interest we have is protecting american citizens i mean we went to war for 20 plus
00:10:27.260years because of the attacks on september 11th where we lost just under 3 000 people on one day
00:10:32.320due to fentanyl poisoning we've lost well over 118 000 american citizens have been killed by the
00:10:39.420mexican drug cartels the chinese communist party because of our wide open southern border like you
00:10:44.160pointed out we've had an untold amount of terrorists enter our country we think 10 million illegals we
00:10:48.920really don't know so my message to congress would be they've got to hold the line there is no other
00:10:54.340issue that should be discussed right now or funded for that matter until the border is secure
00:11:00.380until we can actually show to the american people that we are reducing the amount of people killed
00:11:05.700by fentanyl and we are actually reducing the number of people illegally entering our country and that we
00:11:10.440are starting to track down the bad actors that have entered our country and we start to conduct
00:11:16.120mass deportations and we can't have any loopholes in here where we trade some border security feature
00:11:21.720for some immigration compromise or for amnesty or to get rid of e-verify we got to start cutting off the
00:11:28.240ability that these illegal immigrants have to make a living here in the united states but my message
00:11:32.460would be they've got to hold the line there's no other issue that can be discussed not aid to
00:11:37.080anywhere else until our border is secure real quick before i let you go we got a few minutes i'm just
00:11:43.680curious you know you said the f word forever war that's the f word here in the war room um but
00:11:49.280i'm just curious do you think that they're going to try to turn what's going on in the middle east
00:11:53.240now into another forever war as we see the ukraine conflict maybe potentially winding down or at least
00:11:58.840the political appetite to give them more aid i.e the defense contractors to make some more money
00:12:03.560it doesn't seem as likely i'm just curious kind of looking down range what you think is going to
00:12:07.540happen there most certainly i mean biden in his last public address he already said that we need to
00:12:13.120rally the country because of all the conflicts in the middle east and eastern europe so obviously
00:12:16.780i think just you know purely politically he wants a war going into 2024 but look
00:12:21.480the entire military industrial complex the entire intelligence apparatus of the united states
00:12:26.060government has been tooled for counterterrorism and counterinsurgency so all of the money to
00:12:32.200interest right now would love nothing more than for us to go back and build up a bunch of bases in
00:12:37.160iraq and syria and what you're going to hear from the neocons is hey we left iraq in 2011 we had to
00:12:42.480come back because of isis so therefore we shouldn't leave we should just continue to expand and that's
00:12:47.640going to be the overwhelming cry coming from the beltway from the people that stand to gain from
00:12:52.500this but really if we look at the the cold hard reality none of our efforts in the middle east with
00:12:57.500the exception of a few counterterrorism strikes here and there really worked none of it ever worked i
00:13:01.680mean i fought over there for most of my 20s and 30s i wish i could say hey it worked we should just
00:13:06.380give it the old college try even harder this time and it'll definitely work there's a pathway to
00:13:10.180success there simply isn't what what does work is us using our leverage like president trump really put
00:13:16.600into operation by making us a net exporter of energy using our economic and diplomatic power
00:13:21.940to come up with creative solutions like the abraham accords to use our allies effectively
00:13:27.440to use the power of tariffs the power of sanctions and only when necessary use very strategic strikes but
00:13:33.760then take away the enemy's leverage that has to be the way forward it's the only pragmatic solution
00:13:38.680thankfully we're making a lot of headway with this i think in the new republican party really want
00:13:44.040people to remember that we could have had our troops out of iraq and syria earlier this year
00:13:47.900we had matt gates anna colina luna cory mills eli crane put forward legislation to get them out of
00:13:54.220iraq and syria and then we had unfortunately the war party republicans and democrats alike rally to
00:13:59.920leave our troops there where they're now continuing to bleed on the battlefield that we have to carve a
00:14:04.480new path forward for pragmatic foreign policy indeed and joe kind of people want to follow you help
00:14:10.680with the campaign do all those things where can they go to do so you can please go to joe kent for
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00:14:21.140between now and the end of the month it's really going to help us get a running start into 2024 to
00:14:25.840flip this seat so joe kent for congress.com thank you so much joe merry christmas have a good one
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00:16:16.520action action action myself much less political now than i used to be uh i was once um uh obviously
00:16:23.920a democrat i worked for three different democrats uh on the hill both uh i worked for senator biden
00:16:28.900before i worked for chuck schumer when he was on the hill and then john conyers
00:16:32.160oof i'm glad i watched that 2003 interview on c-span last night because that is the founder i should say
00:16:41.160one of the founders of crew a little left-wing far left progressive kind of i don't want to call
00:16:47.800them a watchdog that's too euphemistic a term because they're not really watching anything
00:16:51.500they're creating the problems that need to be watched by groups like judicial watch and analyzed
00:16:56.440by entities like revolver news without darren jb joining us shortly but that's melanie sloan the
00:17:01.920founder of the organization responsible for bringing the lawsuit that led to trump's removal from the
00:17:07.160colorado ballot and you heard it there she used to work for joe biden there's some other wonderful
00:17:12.320clips from that interview where she talks about meeting george soros taking money from him and i
00:17:17.640think most concerningly how they want to make colorado a model for other states she says yes we
00:17:24.720can what we do on the state level we can do on the federal level too now there's another founder a guy
00:17:31.920by the name of norm eisen you may remember him from transition integrity project era fame uh color
00:17:39.660revolution fame really revolver.news fame i think darren jb can take credit for making him famous like
00:17:46.780we love to do here in the war room but i guess norm eisen as tucker carlson said that's a name you
00:17:53.260should remember and you shouldn't forget he's back he's hotter than ever and he's uh waging lawfare
00:18:00.100an election interference against president trump if you want to walk us through everything go slow
00:18:04.520refresh our memory on who exactly this guy is and why he matters now
00:18:07.960absolutely and i think it would be more accurate to say that he never went anywhere in the first place
00:18:15.520he's been involved continuously in every high profile effort to undermine um and really overthrow
00:18:25.060trump's presidency and the trump movement more broadly this goes back a long way so the story
00:18:33.380of norm eisen's involvement and the involvement of crew which is one of the premier sort of lawfare
00:18:40.320um outfits that's been weaponized against trump and again it has a storied history for
00:18:47.700a long time it was run by david brock who's i think one of the most notorious sort of democrat
00:18:55.160hatchet men who was disgraced and even kind of too discredited uh to run crew and that's why norm
00:19:02.060eisen took over around when trump got into office but we're getting ahead of ourselves with david brock
00:19:09.100remember there was that famous brock memo that was leaked and i believe the washington free beacon
00:19:15.420reported on it and this was basically the democrat machine run by david brock saying
00:19:22.800holy crap how did we let this happen how did this guy trump come out of nowhere and against the
00:19:30.760coordinated opposition of every single institution in the country still managed to win the presidency
00:19:36.080we can never ever ever let this happen again and the brock memo detailed exactly what the strategy
00:19:43.860would be to prevent it from happening again and not only you know waiting until 2020 you know that
00:19:51.360would that would be unacceptable of course they had to get hit the ground running immediately and crew
00:19:58.640was responsible for over a hundred um lawfare actions against the trump administration and the first of
00:20:06.260which you might remember and i think some of our very high info war room uh members will remember although
00:20:14.760the general public may not but our war room people surely do one of the first legal actions against trump
00:20:21.980just as stupid as all the rest of them was this emoluments clause sham basically saying oh trump has
00:20:30.440hotels so when foreign leaders stay in a hotel and you know he sort of indirectly benefits from that that's a violation of the emoluments clause
00:20:40.100in the constitution totally ridiculous case totally frivolous just like anything else but what's interesting about this is
00:20:48.040this lawfare initiative for the emoluments clause this was drafted before trump was even sworn in
00:20:54.380to office and it was drafted by um eisen it was drafted by a guy named joseph sellers who as we reported
00:21:04.260separately sellers went on to play a prominent role in the attack on trump in january 6 attack because
00:21:11.400you know benny thompson who was the chairman of the j6 committee a man who i would be surprised if he was
00:21:19.200able to read not using his fingers to guide his eyes this is not someone that we would refer to as
00:21:25.900supremely literate if we're going to be generous enough to call him literate at all and there's no way
00:21:32.340that he crafted his own personal lawsuit against trump for january 6 he had the help of more intelligent but
00:21:41.560probably just as unscrupulous if not more so lawyers and joseph sellers was one of them
00:21:48.180and so joseph sellers was instrumental in crafting the entire theory of the case of january 6
00:21:54.360which emerged as a personal lawsuit against benny thompson and then later on you would think this
00:22:01.000would be a conflict of interest but benny thompson goes on to chair the j6 committee an allegedly
00:22:07.020dispassionate disinterested fact-finding committee about january 6 there was already a theory of the case
00:22:14.820it was penned by joseph sellers who is the partner in crime with norm eisen the head of crew so i know
00:22:21.040this story is a little bit convoluted but it's merely to emphasize that all of these efforts are
00:22:26.040connected they're not disjointed and should be understood and contextualized as one long continuous
00:22:33.460string of efforts to cripple undermine overthrow trump and the latest such endeavor comes from crew norm
00:22:42.240eisen has since left now he's part of some other sham organization and there's a constellation of
00:22:48.940these joke organizations and the real kicker is when they have democracy in the title which they often do
00:22:55.220and that means that the organization is fully dedicated to making sure that the american people
00:23:01.560will never have the opportunity to meddle in their own elections again that's what they call democracy
00:23:07.360so norm eisen is in his new democracy group with former heads of the dhs you know normal stuff
00:23:13.780janet janet neapolitano i think she was famous for you know being a beauty queen in her youth
00:23:20.660and some other people like mike chertoff a charming crowd of national security professionals
00:23:26.560defending democracy by making sure that americans can't speak and can't vote so who who's running crew now
00:23:35.080who's running the show now that crew is bragging on its website for being responsible for this
00:23:41.700ridiculous these ridiculous cases in colorado that take trump off the ballot well it's a guy with an
00:23:48.700interesting name book binder and i wish he stuck to the family tradition of binding books we'd we all be
00:23:55.180better off you can't maybe he can't read the maybe he can bind the books and teach uh benny thompson how
00:24:02.720to read while he's at it but instead he's but instead he's up to no good uh and you know the
00:24:09.620interesting thing about this guy you know he's kind of a sham bureaucrat typical sort of resume you'd
00:24:14.860expect but the interesting thing about this guy is the guy who runs the organization crew the infamous
00:24:21.940lawfare organization that's most recently responsible for taking trump off the ballot in colorado in some
00:24:28.420unprecedented and ridiculous move this guy has an advisory position for the department of homeland
00:24:36.960security an organization that natalie we've spoken about a lot i know you've covered it extensively we
00:24:43.880have covered it extensively at revolver i think it's fair to say that the dhs is the tip of the spear
00:24:50.600when it comes to this repurposing of the national security state against trump supporters it's
00:24:57.960had a storied history recently you know it housed the disinformation governance board and the whole
00:25:03.380nina yankovich and all of that um going further back it famously um uh asserted that white supremacy is
00:25:12.640america's number one national security threat it's a complete joke organization and arguably it always was
00:25:18.960it was set up by bush in the aftermath of 9-11 to prosecute the war on terror but now the terror in their
00:25:25.180view is coming from the uh domestic terrorists who dare to you know object to open borders and that sort of
00:25:33.920thing and this individual has an advisory role at the department of homeland security and think about how
00:25:42.400troubling that is is that someone who's involved in such an intensely and conspicuously political effort to
00:25:52.180take the existing president's opposition and really the front runner if you know if not for the entire
00:26:01.940election certainly for the republican party and for this person with a top advisory role at the dhs
00:26:09.320to have as his main job this hyper political role of spearheading the move against trump to remove him from the
00:26:18.180ballot just underscores how dark and incestuous this whole revolving door relationship really is between
00:26:27.660the national security state and not just these ngos but against the with these lawfare outfits like crew
00:26:36.980that have been so supremely damaging to our um system of government and to what could genuinely be referred
00:26:45.160to as the rules-based order not in the way that the people mean it when they actually use that term
00:26:50.320you always know it's uh natalie winters hosting the war room because darren beady gets to go on what
00:26:56.800was that a 15 minute rant and doesn't get interrupted it makes my job i know what what show am i on
00:27:06.360no i'm just i'm just curious i'll hold you through the break but you can get started on this you know
00:27:10.840there's obviously a through line right all this stuff is interconnected where do you think they
00:27:15.480go next you're always so good at seeing downrange what do you think the next tactics are going to be
00:27:20.740um and how do we stop them more importantly um that's a great question if we're going up on the
00:27:27.040break i'll defer to that because it requires a longer answer that gets into the substance of the
00:27:33.320california decision so there we go well we'll have everyone on the edge of your seat
00:27:41.280on how we stop believe me you know who's on the edge of his seat right now norm eisen and i'm sure
00:27:49.100mr bookbinder and all these people because they're not used to getting pulled out because they have a
00:27:54.220mainstream media apparatus that is not just in bed with them they have the same paymasters they serve
00:27:59.880the same agenda right at the end of the day they hate you they suppress you they hate everything
00:28:04.900you think everything you stand for luckily we have people like darren jb at the bar group at
00:28:10.980to give us a voice be a very scary world of the dinner we'll be right back after the break with darren's
00:28:17.820answer welcome back to the war room i'm sure that was a very long break for norm eisen he's on the
00:28:37.460edge of his seat it's probably nervous that he knows dr darren jb for a long time now has had his
00:28:44.480sights on him and you've you've been correct you've exposed him as all of these people deserve
00:28:50.280to be exposed and i hope come trump's i guess should be third term but second term that all of
00:28:56.340these shady swampy lying subversive left-wing non-profits so there's so much more than just
00:29:03.020left-wing what they're doing to this country is an insult it's an affront but i hope they're turfed
00:29:08.840out i hope their hearings i hope they lose their 501c3 statuses all of the above just to start as
00:29:14.840the opening salvo but darren jbd i'm sure you have some even more dialed in suggestions about what we
00:29:21.880do but sort of reverse engineering their playbook you know where are they going with this um and what
00:29:27.820do we need to know to be informed to sort of stay ahead of them yeah that's a great question and you
00:29:34.660know i can only speculate but i think the decision in the colorado case gives us some sense of how
00:29:42.800it's all going to come together as part of understand the appellate decision the you know supreme not
00:29:51.740supreme you know colorado supreme court not the american supreme court but it was an appellate case
00:29:56.780obviously the original district court case that it responded to found that trump was
00:30:04.440guilty of insurrection but the relevant clause in the 14th amendment that they're trying to use to go
00:30:11.660after trump did not apply to presidents you see their theory of the case is that the section three
00:30:18.240of the 14th amendment which prohibits people who've engaged in insurrection or rebellion from
00:30:24.140holding certain offices that this is what prevents trump from being constitutionally eligible to be
00:30:31.100president and therefore if he's ineligible he shouldn't be on the ballot that's the argument
00:30:36.060the district court said yeah trump's guilty of insurrection for january 6th but the uh section
00:30:43.460three doesn't apply to presidents the supreme uh colorado supreme court said well yes he's guilty of
00:30:50.080the insurrection and it does apply to presidents and one sort of of the many clear objections to this is
00:30:57.240just for the sake of argument they were right that it applied to presidents trump hasn't been found
00:31:03.180guilty of any insurrection and in fact to date he hasn't there there are those january 6th cases which
00:31:10.400we've discussed independently why they're so stupid and malicious um but he hasn't even been charged with
00:31:17.760the seditious conspiracy case would be which would be the only um charge that could reasonably be
00:31:25.200associated with something like insurrection even that is dubious because the whole context of the
00:31:30.86014th amendment was the civil war and but this helps to clarify some of the otherwise just baffling and
00:31:38.420baffling and stupid rhetoric coming from people like biden remember they were saying january 6th is like the
00:31:44.620civil war and this or that well by connecting it to the civil war they're kind of contriving this sense in
00:31:53.180which um january 6th could fall you know in the in the scope of this section three argument so long
00:32:01.800story short grant you know given that the whole thing is ridiculous i think this increases the
00:32:09.060likelihood that trump will be hit with the superseding indictment for seditious conspiracy to sort of
00:32:15.800reinforce this theory of the case that colorado use and other states are actively using to try to remove
00:32:22.740him from the ballot and so that just once again people ask me because you know we're known you know
00:32:29.340before we were known for the january 6th stuff norm eisen was one of our big stories for his involvement
00:32:34.400with color revolution but that's a whole other a whole other conversation but then we became known for
00:32:40.580january 6th stuff and now you know years later people say you know why should we talk about this well
00:32:45.180this active case reinforces and reminds us of what the stakes are in january 6th it's not simply about
00:32:53.800understand what what happened on that day correctly it's understanding what the stakes are and how much
00:33:00.140the regime has invested in its false narrative of what happened because it's central to what's going on
00:33:06.980in this latest law fair push to remove trump from the ballot so we can't vote forget about voter fraud
00:33:14.200if you if trump isn't even on the ballot they don't even need to do the voter fraud you know it's um but
00:33:20.080that's central to the theory that they're pushing in order to justify doing that so yet again we see
00:33:27.200the significance of january 6th and the narratives behind it that we've been shoved down our throats day
00:33:34.160after day for years now they have a lot riding on that false narrative and that's why they freaked out
00:33:40.040when we originally challenged it and why they're still freaking out about it i can only imagine the
00:33:46.280displays that they're going to put on in the mainstream media meltdowns come january 6th 2024
00:33:51.320it'll be essential like you said to this narrative that they've invested so much and so i'm sure you
00:33:57.100guys at revolver have some we'll call it counter programming um you know where are you guys going
00:34:03.580where are you leading with your january 6th investigations do you have any anything to tease for
00:34:08.240the war room posse absolutely we have something very interesting and significant and suggestive
00:34:16.040coming on coming up on the infamous pipe bomb question and we have some equally shocking
00:34:26.320material coming out you know there's been a conversation about the role of the federal government
00:34:32.300but there's an interesting parallel story about the role of the various local forces in january 6th that
00:34:42.060i think is just as scandalous so we have a bunch of stuff coming up for the uh for the anniversary of
00:34:50.740january 6th it's you know it's a holiday tradition at this point but we've got some very big stuff coming
00:34:57.540in addition to everything else with the norm eyes in the colorado the continuous efforts to remove
00:35:03.360trump and really i think you know it's a line i've used for many years now but unfortunately it remains
00:35:09.000appropriate and that is the regime is doing everything it can to make sure that the american
00:35:15.280people can never meddle in their own elections again it's as simple as that and that's what they call
00:35:21.120democracy i think these people care more about january 6th than they do christmas or new year's they
00:35:29.520probably would replace they probably want to make it a federal holiday that would be my bet
00:35:34.020january 6th they were expecting it to be their christmas but i'm the grinch of january 6th
00:35:39.860the viral moment of war room today there we go the grinch the grinch who stole the uh
00:35:47.120the national security states wannabe christmas darren jbd there you go darren if people want
00:35:54.420to follow you stay up to date with everything if norm eisen wants to follow you and keep tabs on you
00:36:00.020uh where can you go to do all that absolutely revolver.news revolver.news go there now it's
00:36:07.800white hot today just coming up off the holiday we did a great red and green link thing but now we're
00:36:13.980back to business as usual um really hot really important stuff i'm on twitter at darren jbd and
00:36:21.880we are the whitest and hottest on our getter account which is at revolver news so check us out there too
00:36:30.500whitest and hottest there you go it's a it's a must follow darren thank you so much for joining us
00:36:37.540thank you natalie now we got the one and only joe allen joining us i'm sure you guys saw this story
00:36:46.100that broke yesterday about how some sort of robot creature working at an elon musk factory out in
00:36:53.520texas i guess attacked a human attacked a worker that left a quote trail of blood according to the
00:37:00.400incident report joe allen this is above my pay grade i don't understand this stuff i will let you
00:37:04.960take it away well natalie uh i followed the trail of blood and i found an industrial accident
00:37:13.300from two years ago if denver wants to throw up the uh the image that daily mail ran with i think
00:37:21.660it's important to to get a sense of what the impression is in the public you know if you look
00:37:28.480closely you can see a squad of tesla optimus bots that are are coming to get their next victim it would
00:37:36.740appear but uh it wasn't actually a humanoid that did it it was uh more just a piece of industrial
00:37:42.640uh robotic machinery a claw reached out and grabbed an engineer uh both his back and his hand and it
00:37:49.920lacerated his hand uh leaving the trail of blood now the article itself even despite the clickbait
00:37:58.720headline and image uh the article is actually very interesting it is a a an informed deep dive into
00:38:07.000uh industrial accidents due to autonomous systems these are increasingly common as the autonomous systems
00:38:15.040become more and more common and they raised the question uh is an autonomous system that saves a
00:38:23.280company a ton of money but perhaps uh poses real dangers to human beings working at the company
00:38:30.300is that autonomous system worth it by and large these questions are answered by armies of lawyers
00:38:38.200workers and uh one of the key premises is that if more workers are uh injured due to human accidents
00:38:47.520or non-robotic accidents uh then uh it is in fact worth it to have a a robot doing the task and there's
00:38:58.280basically just an acceptable level of a robot on human violence that goes along with all of this but uh before we
00:39:08.040get to the break natalie if we could um i'd like to look at something that's on the same wavelength
00:39:14.200and i think much more important for the average american uh it's the same question but put onto the
00:39:21.680highway if denver wants to run that cold open it actually goes to self-driving cars and vision and
00:39:28.660everything else um and i asked this question of pete buddha judge uh transportation secretary it's actually
00:39:34.040something you retweeted so i wanted to ask you the same question um there's a big question about
00:39:39.220autonomous vehicles and the safety of them but there's also a question about when it will be
00:39:47.260politically palatable in this country for people to die in cars that are controlled by computers which
00:40:00.080say we have 35 40 000 deaths every year in this in this country yeah if you could bring that number
00:40:06.060down to 10 000 5 000 that might be a great thing but do we think that the country will accept the idea
00:40:15.060that 5 000 people that your family uh might have have perished in a in a vehicle as a result not of a human
00:40:23.640making a mistake but of a computer um yes well first of all humans are terrible drivers um so people text
00:40:31.740and drive they drink and drive they get into arguments they you know um
00:40:38.480you know they do all sorts of things in cars that they should not do
00:40:42.900um so it's actually remarkable that there are not more deaths than there are um what we'll find with
00:40:52.260computer driving is i think probably an order of magnitude reduction in deaths um i think now and the
00:41:00.040u.s has actually far fewer deaths per capita than the rest of the world if you go worldwide i think there's
00:41:06.420something close to a million deaths per year due to automotive accidents um so i think
00:41:13.720computer driving will probably drop that
00:41:17.420by 90 percent or more it won't it won't be perfect but it'll be 10 times better and do you think that the
00:41:23.700public will accept that do you think the government will accept that
00:41:26.460well at in large numbers the it will simply be so obviously true um that it really cannot be denied
00:41:35.400full disclosure i should be the last person uh defending mankind's ability to drive as a
00:41:43.560pretty horrible driver myself but joe i'm gonna keep you through the break but i don't know about
00:41:48.640you i don't want technological programs and algorithms and engineers and a big tech apparatus
00:41:53.560that has repeatedly demonstrated their desire their lust to come after maga to say that the people
00:41:59.700who hold beliefs like we do basically shouldn't exist i don't quite know if i want those people
00:42:04.400deciding if i turn left if i turn right if i stop or frankly even if they're gonna hit me in the
00:42:09.900crosswalk we'll get joe allen's i'm sure interesting and probably a lot more refined takes after the