Bannon's War Room - December 30, 2023


Episode 3282： New Years Eve Special：The Continued Invasion

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MAGA movement spiritual battle Global Compact on Migration invasion corruption in US and Mexico invasion
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Steve Bannon
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Oscar Blue Ramirez Donald Trump Steve Todd Benzman Ron DeSantis Joe Biden Kevin McCarthy Jeff Rowe Matt Gaetz Auld Lang Syne Raheem Kassam Mike Johnson Adam Laxalt Murdoch Burquam Darien Ben Bergquam Getter T. Benzman Glenn Youngkin Rick Santorum and 18 more
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On this episode of The War Room, we review the year that was 2020, and look at how the rise of the MAGA movement led to the fall of Ron DeSantis in the primary, and what it taught us about how not to run a campaign.

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00:00:00.000 Should old acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind,
00:00:11.660 should old acquaintance be forgot and old land sighed.
00:00:24.660 For old lands I, my dear, for old lands I will take a cup of kindness.
00:00:43.460 Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
00:00:46.840 It's Saturday, 30 December, Year of the Lord, 2023.
00:00:49.700 This is also doubling as our New Year's Eve special.
00:00:54.660 We kind of review the year, a historic year, particularly with the rise of MAGA as a massive political force,
00:01:01.380 even more so than in 16.
00:01:05.020 Rahim, you've been probably the—because it's not like the old—this primary was not like the old days,
00:01:14.240 where every move that came out of the—because, you know, as we totally dismissed it,
00:01:18.300 it used to be in the previous ones that you would help us cover, either in 16 or even in 12 at Breitbart.
00:01:25.480 You know, every movement of Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney or, you know, a Jeb Bush, everything was covered and magnified.
00:01:33.320 You didn't really see that this year because of so much, I think, dismissal of the whole concept of a primary,
00:01:42.800 or putting Trump to a primary.
00:01:44.140 However, anybody that did cover it in the most important elements of it were you and the team at National Pulse.
00:01:52.020 Walk through to the audience how you saw a total collapse of a guy that had $300 million,
00:01:59.360 all of the donors, Fox News media, that was just nonstop, starting to begin this year with town halls and praise,
00:02:08.320 virtually two-thirds or 75 percent of conservative media on his side.
00:02:15.300 How did that collapse?
00:02:17.600 And then immediately they looked for two other alternatives.
00:02:19.840 They looked for the governor of Virginia first, and then they finally landed on Nikki Haley. 0.72
00:02:25.700 And people should know, we'll talk more about this tomorrow.
00:02:27.260 The Nikki Haley thing is going to be, I think, a quite ugly situation.
00:02:30.940 So from the person that covered it the most, before we get into McCarthy and the House,
00:02:35.460 the importance of that story, the collapse of the rise and fall of Ron DeSantis.
00:02:41.540 Yeah, well, I think it's wrong to say that Ron DeSantis is irrelevant.
00:02:45.500 I think it's more accurate to say that Ron DeSantis' relevance applies almost only from the perspective of how not to run a campaign.
00:02:55.300 And that is important. That is a lesson that people should learn.
00:02:58.740 It's a book that needs to be written. It should be taught in political science classes,
00:03:04.140 and it should be studied by everybody who wants to work in elections.
00:03:08.820 What they did was the complete diametric opposite of what you need to do to win a primary, to win an election.
00:03:18.400 And there are so many reasons why.
00:03:22.360 There are so many different elements to this, whether you want to take the kind of the boorish arrogance of somebody like Jeff Rowe,
00:03:30.680 whether you want to take the sort of the grifting nature of van der Plaats and those people who are brought on using $100,000 checks to the process,
00:03:40.580 whether you want to look at it from the perspective of who Ron was allowing to run his campaign and what Ron thought about himself as a result of having won his own elections in Florida,
00:03:52.120 convinced himself that Donald Trump had nothing to do with those wins, where in reality Donald Trump had everything to do with those wins.
00:03:59.520 You can look at the people who have endorsed him.
00:04:02.820 You can look at how they set about the campaign in the first instance.
00:04:05.860 There was, by the way, it's not often you'll get me complimenting New York Times reporting,
00:04:09.540 but there was a fabulous piece of New York Times reporting towards the latter part of this year,
00:04:13.220 which walked people through exactly, you know, what took place and when within that campaign.
00:04:19.840 And, you know, you go from the original sin of that campaign was hiring Jeff Rowe.
00:04:24.740 But why did he hire Jeff Rowe?
00:04:26.380 Because Adam Laxalt told him to.
00:04:27.840 And why did Adam Laxalt tell him to?
00:04:29.640 Because they're buddies and he knew that in hiring Jeff Rowe, it took Ted Cruz and Glenn Youngkin out of the running for the race
00:04:37.020 because they would naturally go to Rowe, their buddy as well, to run their campaigns.
00:04:40.680 It was all of this what we call too clever by half, right?
00:04:44.360 Too cute way of trying to run this campaign. 1.00
00:04:46.900 And they thought, all of them, by the way, thought that, oh, if we're doing the opposite of what all of the MAGA world people think we should be doing,
00:04:55.660 then we're on to the right thing.
00:04:58.740 Well, look, this year has taught us something very fundamental because at first we were told, all right, you know, wait until he gets in the race.
00:05:06.380 Then we were told, OK, wait until he debates.
00:05:08.440 Then we were told, OK, wait until, you know, whatever it is.
00:05:11.960 And now it's wait until Iowa, which is just in a couple of days' time at this point, and no sign of any serious movement for DeSantis there.
00:05:22.220 And even if there was, even if there was, he runs up against his 8% in New Hampshire.
00:05:28.100 So some of it is philosophical, right?
00:05:32.140 You can't hologram your way into being the leader of a mass movement, especially not the MAGA movement, because the MAGA movement is something more than just politics.
00:05:42.000 It's more than just philosophy.
00:05:44.760 It's almost spiritual, right?
00:05:46.940 It's a spiritual battle.
00:05:47.960 It's spiritual warfare, and people feel it in their soul.
00:05:50.620 They don't just sort of feel it at the ballot box.
00:05:52.340 They don't feel it as just marking an X in a box somewhere and hoping that politician down the line does something that you like.
00:05:59.540 It's way more than that.
00:06:01.160 It is the embodiment and the epitome of the anti-declinist nature of that movement.
00:06:06.860 And you can't hologram that.
00:06:08.500 You can't facsimile it.
00:06:10.000 And that's what they tried to do.
00:06:11.280 So I think the focus on what went wrong, focus on the R-O-N in the word wrong there, will actually be the most fascinating part of Ron DeSantis' political career.
00:06:24.920 And that really is saying something.
00:06:26.260 This MAGA not abandoning Trump, even though some of the polling initially where people were having – some people definitely were having some doubts.
00:06:39.020 But MAGA finding its home with President Trump, having his back, seeing DeSantis out of the box, and at the exact time having the back of Matt Gaetz and these rebels starting in January.
00:06:50.780 Both of these show both at the House and Congress level and at the executive branch for a broad national election the rise and ascendancy and the self-assurance of this movement where it became very clear what – they see it very clearly what needs to be done.
00:07:10.100 And no matter what Murdoch news – because remember, Murdoch news was absolutely 1,000 percent against this audience and what it believed in the whole McCarthy thing, right?
00:07:22.600 And it was 1,000 percent in back of DeSantis as the replacement for Trump, and it was 1,000 percent in back of the Ukraine war.
00:07:32.640 On those three elements, this audience went very clearly, right, took the exact opposite of what they knew was at the center of gravity of the America First movement.
00:07:42.360 They did not flinch at all.
00:07:44.000 And that to me has been the big story of this past year, of 2023.
00:07:48.980 Raheem Kassam.
00:07:51.960 Yeah.
00:07:52.560 Again, I want to bring it back to kind of the instincts of the base here.
00:07:58.640 I think those – you know, Donald Trump is not successful just because he's Donald Trump.
00:08:03.600 He's not a successful politician just because he was a successful developer.
00:08:07.940 He's a successful politician and a public figure because he is channeling the base.
00:08:15.600 He's not just a populist, right?
00:08:17.260 He's a popularist.
00:08:19.460 He fully takes into account – I mean, you look at the abortion argument as a massive part of this, right?
00:08:26.840 Typically, that would have been the end for a Republican politician to kind of come out and say, like, hey, there's too much of a grift in this pro-life inc organizations in Washington, D.C.
00:08:39.840 I think we just actually need to keep advancing the ball here rather than sticking to a list of bullet points that somebody 40, 50 years ago wrote down on a piece of paper in northern Virginia, right, when they were setting up some C3 or C4.
00:08:56.080 And typically, that would have been, you know, the end of a conservative politician, a Republican politician.
00:09:01.020 But he manages to explain it, walk the audience through it, and actually channel them in such a way that they go, yeah, actually, that is how I feel about that issue.
00:09:11.240 That is how I want this issue advanced.
00:09:13.620 And it's a perfectly reasonable way to go and do it.
00:09:17.120 And whether you look at that stuff or anything else, you have to understand this.
00:09:25.860 Matt Gaetz, all of those guys, they work in – I'll say the same about you, by the way – they work in the very same way, is they are not trying to put their belief system on their audience.
00:09:36.060 They are populists.
00:09:36.820 They are popularists.
00:09:37.740 They are trying to channel the audience.
00:09:39.040 And they know – the audience knows what battles to pick and what battles to avoid.
00:09:46.180 You can't – it was Churchill, right?
00:09:49.020 Don't stop and throw stones at every dog that barks.
00:09:52.160 You will never reach your destination.
00:09:54.900 That sums it all up.
00:10:00.180 What's the takeaway from particularly this historic where you actually remove a speaker?
00:10:06.140 What's the takeaway you take from the speaker?
00:10:08.780 The battle was enjoined in the very first days of 2023.
00:10:12.740 This audience had Gaetz's back, Rosendale's back, Eli Crane's back, the heroic folks that stood in the breach.
00:10:21.800 And then later, it took nine months to get there.
00:10:25.000 And there's still all types of – and remember, Johnson is no – he's a good man, but he needs a lot of training and he needs to be able to stand in the breach.
00:10:32.880 What's your takeaway from this historic removal of Kevin McCarthy?
00:10:40.360 The people need to internalize that history can be made every single day, right?
00:10:48.340 I don't mean that.
00:10:49.100 I say it as somebody who cannot believe the rooms that I'm in as a kid from Uxbridge, West London, right, who came from no money, no political family, no dynasty, no nothing.
00:11:05.560 And I look around me sometimes and I just think history is being made right around me right now.
00:11:10.100 You know, and this audience made history.
00:11:13.540 It was obviously not just historical because of what happened.
00:11:18.000 It was historical because of the precedent set that will be used again in future as a result.
00:11:22.600 That's very important.
00:11:24.040 It's critical to lay down markers like that.
00:11:27.260 The left does it all the time.
00:11:28.500 The right has been particularly bad at it for several decades.
00:11:32.080 But that's now coming back.
00:11:33.440 That understanding of that is now coming back.
00:11:35.380 And the lessons of that can be applied across the board.
00:11:39.320 It can be applied to election integrity.
00:11:41.580 It can be applied to the life argument.
00:11:44.260 It can be applied all through the political issues, the border, the political issues that you know, that we know, that we care about.
00:11:51.460 So for me, 2023 was a critical year in reminding ourselves, I'll use this word, maybe Media Matters will pick it up, reminding ourselves that we can bully our way to victory.
00:12:09.380 And I think in 2024, take those lessons and bully your way to victory.
00:12:14.620 Raheem is going to join us for the New Year's Day show.
00:12:19.800 Incredible year in peace looking forward about 2024 and what a historical year it's going to be, a historic year it's going to be.
00:12:28.360 Raheem, how do people get to the National Pulse?
00:12:30.340 Because what you guys do, you provide something quite unique.
00:12:33.860 I would say it's as close to probably, is it Vox that you're probably closest to?
00:12:38.120 The left has a couple of these by very smart guys who stepped out and done it.
00:12:41.580 But we essentially have National Pulse.
00:12:45.500 How do people get there?
00:12:47.920 Yeah, look, at the end of the day, it's actionable intelligence, right?
00:12:50.620 It's actionable news.
00:12:52.000 It's things that concern you and that you can take action on.
00:12:56.180 We provide very short, punchy and well-sourced news information and editors' notes with that in mind.
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00:13:12.460 We want to surpass, you know, we want to double that by halfway through 2024.
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00:13:33.360 Rahim, thank you for joining us.
00:13:37.100 Look forward to seeing you on our New Year's Day show.
00:13:39.520 Have a great weekend.
00:13:40.740 Happy New Year.
00:13:44.900 Rahim Ghassam, been in many of the battles from the beginning of the 2010-11.
00:13:50.540 Saw the Syrian civil war and everything it did on the invasion of Europe, led by Merkel and the Germans. 0.74
00:13:57.660 And now we're going to take a short break.
00:13:59.720 We're going to go down to southern Mexico.
00:14:01.880 Oscar Blue Ramirez has covered this story for us for a year like no one else, putting himself in harm's way.
00:14:07.420 We're going to get an update from Oscar of what the year meant to him.
00:14:12.100 And as importantly, what it's meant to the folks in Mexico that have had this invasion come right across them.
00:14:17.160 Short break.
00:14:17.860 We'll be back in the warm in just a moment.
00:14:19.120 All right.
00:14:21.300 Yeah.
00:14:21.740 Thank you.
00:14:51.740 Thank you.
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00:16:18.440 Okay, welcome back.
00:16:33.080 The rising power of the America First and the MAGA movement of which you, this audience, is the tip of the spear.
00:16:39.480 One of the reasons of your empowerment and your impact on the political structure and process in the United States of America, the most powerful nation on Earth, and quite frankly, the most powerful nation in the history of the Earth, is because of the information that you're able to get access to and then kind of think it through yourself.
00:17:00.120 And for that, we have to thank many, many people.
00:17:05.060 Two of the ones that we're going to bring on next are two of the most important about the invasion of this country is Todd Benzman from CIS and Oscar Blue Ramirez, who's always in harm's way and now is down in southern Mexico today.
00:17:18.580 Oscar, put it in perspective.
00:17:19.920 You've been there.
00:17:21.480 You've been in harm's way many, many times.
00:17:24.800 You've been all the way from the Darien Gap to the border down there with Columbia.
00:17:28.380 You've covered all the migrant caravans.
00:17:32.000 You've covered, you know, the most serious aspects of this.
00:17:35.960 You've been to Tijuana, the Rio Grande Valley, all of it.
00:17:38.620 Put in perspective the invasion of the United States of America as you've seen it through the whole year of 2023.
00:17:47.140 This was not happening under the Trump administration because Donald Trump did not give the power to the United Nations.
00:17:53.200 Immediately when Joe Biden came in, Steve, he was a collaborator of the Global Compact on Migration, and that basically opened the door and the floodgates for people to come in through non-ports of entry to be arriving through non-ports of entry.
00:18:07.860 In the meantime that the United States of America and other countries are involved in this globalist agreement of this humanitarian idea that it will create a better atmosphere for migrants, you will have these kind of problems and these kind of situations at every border.
00:18:23.340 It doesn't even matter how large the wall is going to be built as long as we keep the priority out.
00:18:30.140 We need to keep the priority out.
00:18:31.360 That is the United Nations and the United States need to pull out immediately from the Global Compact on Migration as soon as Donald Trump steps into office and push Mexico to do exactly the same.
00:18:41.620 And that way and that way will completely do a domino effect as he was doing strategically and smart with the tariff that he was putting on Mexico to tariff them under the automobile industry, avocado and beer.
00:18:53.460 And that completely shut down, you know, the massive influx that was coming in from Guatemala. 0.98
00:19:00.360 And ultimately Guatemala was going to do exactly the same and the same and the same.
00:19:04.060 Even the Panamanian authorities and the Darien Gap, they said when Mexico was applied with the tariff, that completely slowed down and it completely slowed down in the borders with the United States.
00:19:15.020 As you see, migrants are walking behind me again, Steve, for the 11th caravan that we have covered with the war room in the south border of Mexico, Steve.
00:19:26.380 Oscar, just get people up to speed.
00:19:28.000 This Global Compact, which is really essentially a treaty, never went through the Senate.
00:19:32.600 Biden just kind of signed on at the beginning of his of his regime.
00:19:36.360 Walk us through why it's so it's it's so deadly to the United States of America or any nation that wants to declare and have its own sovereignty.
00:19:46.000 Basically, the United Nations created this idea of, you know, of open borders by doing it in a humanitarian way.
00:19:54.540 And 140 countries are signed at first.
00:19:58.160 This Global Compact tells you that every migrant that enters to a non-port of entry or through a port of entry needs to be attended and needs to be given education, job, everything that they need in the comfort to stay.
00:20:08.360 But this, you know, also says that the migration needs to be done in an orderly fashion, documented peacefully and with a purpose that is completely the opposite of what the United Nations has done.
00:20:19.340 But what if you pull out of this, you will also cut the funding to the NGOs that they're part of this enormous problem that they're aiding and abating this to continue to every border.
00:20:29.900 NGOs from the United States of America, that they are funded by the Biden administration and, you know, the billions that they are funded.
00:20:36.000 They're part of this global problem. And then, you know, the cartel knows that the cartel is growing massively with billions of dollars.
00:20:43.260 What the Biden administration has done is created wars on the other side of Mexico where the wall is not built.
00:20:49.260 They're fighting over it, Steve.
00:20:50.740 They're fighting for these open border gaps because they know that extracontinental migrants are paying between $25,000 to $30,000 to $35,000 to get all the way to the border. 0.69
00:21:00.760 You know, and an average migrant is paying $2,500 to $4,000.
00:21:05.220 Talking about these numbers in a high scale, talking about millions of people, you're talking about high numbers of quantities of money.
00:21:12.300 So this is the reason why the global compact needs to be dismantled, disabled and disappeared and eradicated from every country and every border.
00:21:20.740 I want to go back to the NGOs for a second as being an absolutely part, inassertively linked part of making this operate.
00:21:30.020 You've covered with Burquam, I think it's Panama, where the NGOs, the old military bases are now taken over by the NGOs.
00:21:36.980 What NGOs are you talking about?
00:21:38.660 You've got the United States, but talk to us about and name a couple because I think a lot of people naively are still giving money to people or are not putting pressure on their reps to cut the funding to the NGOs in this budget process.
00:21:52.040 So walk us through their key part of it and where the funding comes from.
00:21:57.200 Well, the funding comes from the – and sadly, I'm going to say this to the United States people, it comes from your taxpayer.
00:22:04.980 It comes from you.
00:22:05.900 And some of the – and the most important NGOs are the Catholic charities.
00:22:10.320 They use the Catholic Church as a frame and as a smokescreen to drag people and to donate a lot of this humongous money. 0.73
00:22:19.680 Also, the ACLU is part of this humongous problem of bringing people – the ACLU just to put attention to people and do what they have done.
00:22:27.380 Donald Trump wanted to stop child trafficking and wanted to put DNA testing in their borders because of the enormous fake families that they were coming in.
00:22:36.960 Just to remember everybody in the year 2018, there were more than 58 fake families that they were detected because Donald Trump was really strict on the borders.
00:22:45.360 When he was trying to do the DNA testing, the ACLU immediately stepped in and hardly was attacking Donald Trump.
00:22:53.720 All these NGOs that they are working on, not only in the borders with the United States, they're spreading the information on how to cheat on the system.
00:23:03.740 That is the number one thing.
00:23:04.760 They're educating the migrant to say, you know what, I can enter to a non-port of entry and I can stay there and I can possibly make it and I can possibly don't. 0.97
00:23:12.480 I'm going to be released immediately and possibly I'm not going to be released.
00:23:16.620 But they're willing to risk that, Steve.
00:23:18.320 That is the problem, that they already found a loophole, that humongous loophole, through social media, through applications like TikTok, through where the cartel works continuously.
00:23:29.980 These No More Debts, it's another NGO that works on the desert in Arizona.
00:23:35.960 They're in cahoots with the cartel and everybody knows it.
00:23:38.720 You know, all these NGOs, they need to be eradicated also.
00:23:41.820 Stop the funding to these people and you will see that the problem will be cleared immediately.
00:23:46.320 Oscar, hang on there.
00:23:51.440 You know, you put yourself in arms way more than anybody.
00:23:53.640 You've been out in the field with Burquam from the beginning.
00:23:56.460 I want to bring in Todd Bensman.
00:23:58.480 Todd, you've been now, I think, on the show starting from 2020 and the pandemic.
00:24:05.640 If when you first started coming on the show, I think it was in the spring and summer of 2020.
00:24:10.140 If I had told you that in December of 23, that the invasion and the surge would be at its worst, in fact, it would be multiple times worse than even what you were seeing in 2020 or the years that you had worked in this beforehand.
00:24:28.260 Would you have thought I was crazy?
00:24:30.580 I mean, what gets me about this story, it literally gets worse every day.
00:24:35.700 And with the exposure it has now, now it's starting to have big political consequences for the Democrats.
00:24:41.020 But did you in your wildest dreams ever think we've talked about the scale of this thing ramping up to where the scale is now?
00:24:47.480 Well, normal, regular people would probably be surprised, but I actually wrote a big column predicting that the biggest mass migration that we've ever seen was on the way.
00:25:00.800 I wrote that thing in November of 2020, that it was coming.
00:25:05.940 And so because it was obvious with the policies that the Biden campaign was promising to bring in, that the world of aspiring immigrants was going to respond to those promises and already were.
00:25:21.340 You could see it in interviews down in Tapachula and all over Mexico as they were already starting to come to wait for the shift, the change in administrations.
00:25:33.320 By the tens of thousands, they were coming already just in anticipation.
00:25:38.300 Trump was still in office blocking them, but they were coming already.
00:25:43.220 But I will say that I'm maybe a little bit surprised by the volume and scale.
00:25:50.480 I really, I mean, we're looking at, I think in the last three years, I'm going to say a minimum.
00:25:58.940 I know that the range is wide, but I like to play it a little conservative that we probably have 6 million foreign nationals that came over the border living in the United States in the last 36 months.
00:26:11.640 In just 2023, my guess is a good informed guess is a minimum of 2.5 million and probably 3 million plus when you calculate the different gotaways numbers.
00:26:29.420 And also, you know, they put in these new CBP-1 app and they're flying, you can fly in from foreign countries secretly into U.S. airports.
00:26:40.400 By the hundreds of thousands, they're flying in.
00:26:43.940 And nobody's really accounting for those.
00:26:46.260 I mean, we really had millions of people cross in to the United States over that southern border in one way or another and stayed in the United States.
00:26:57.620 I think we're going to see 2024 even more that will have higher volumes than 2024 because unless the administration shifts policies, I don't see any change.
00:27:17.140 I mean, the messaging to the world is that you've got a 90 percent chance when you lay your money, you're smuggling money down on the felt of getting into the United States within a day and being allowed to stay for your whole life.
00:27:31.880 So why not drop 10 grand on smuggling it so you're going to pay it back plus many multiples?
00:27:37.500 That's really what what's going on here.
00:27:39.780 I mean, that's these policies.
00:27:43.240 Todd, hang on, because you just dropped a blockbuster on us.
00:27:46.160 You think 24 is even going to be worse on 23 was a year.
00:27:50.500 The scale of this is mind blowing.
00:27:52.960 Just hang on a second.
00:27:55.000 We've got Oscar Blue Ramirez in Mexico.
00:27:58.560 We have Todd Benson with us, the leading expert.
00:28:01.940 We're going to take a short break.
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00:31:33.620 Todd Benzman, I want to thank you for being on the year-end show.
00:31:36.320 And, you know, you've done such a heroic job.
00:31:40.040 Obviously, Oscar's done a heroic job.
00:31:42.520 When you tell us there's been, I don't know, a couple of million, three million, four million,
00:31:45.880 five million, I mean, the numbers of scales, every day we have another combat division.
00:31:50.180 And most of these, let's face it, besides the little kids they traffic across because
00:31:54.920 it is trafficking, because they won't do the DNA test, the rest look like military-age 0.98
00:32:00.500 men from every nation on earth.
00:32:02.980 I mean, no nation in the history of the world has ever invited their own destruction like
00:32:07.720 this.
00:32:08.640 It's mind-boggling.
00:32:10.200 Will history say we did enough to stop it?
00:32:13.620 I mean, you're going to have Mike Johnson down with a Codel next week. 0.99
00:32:16.320 We've had tons of photo ops on the border.
00:32:18.840 We've talked about it to where it blew in the face.
00:32:20.460 You've interviewed all the Border Patrol.
00:32:23.100 Your books have been incredible.
00:32:25.380 Your writing has been incredible.
00:32:27.520 But have we done enough?
00:32:29.480 Because to me, and this is what my mantra is for 2024 right now, shut down the border
00:32:36.180 or shut down the government.
00:32:37.360 The only thing they understand is money.
00:32:38.900 You just got to shut it down.
00:32:39.960 And we have to take a hard line on that.
00:32:41.840 And this is the hill that we should die on.
00:32:44.460 Because this invasion of our country is changing everything right now and going to change it 0.98
00:32:49.760 even more.
00:32:50.860 Todd Bensman.
00:32:51.480 Well, this brings to mind the old Pearl Harbor story where you had a radio, a SIGINT operator
00:33:00.720 pick up and report that there were Japanese aircraft on the way to bomb Pearl Harbor.
00:33:07.260 And of course, nobody listened.
00:33:08.540 And I kind of sometimes feel like that guy.
00:33:10.600 And I think, you know, guys like Ben Berkwam and Oscar and a few others who have been down
00:33:17.980 there actually covering this thing on a regular basis are lonely voices in the wind, in the
00:33:24.660 wilderness, trying to, you know, showcase the realities of what's actually happening on
00:33:31.440 our border and to the interior of the country, too.
00:33:34.220 And to the extent that the Republican House and even when they were in the minority in
00:33:44.100 both chambers were able to affect change on this, you know, it's partly due to the fact
00:33:53.080 that there wasn't really an understanding, I think, about what was happening, that they
00:33:58.620 didn't understand what was happening.
00:34:00.680 And the extent of it, the regular media was suppressing the news and avoiding it, really
00:34:07.840 avoiding it for years.
00:34:11.100 And so in the 22 midterm elections, we didn't see the Democrats cut very deep to the bone.
00:34:20.040 It wasn't cut deep enough.
00:34:21.620 And so they were able to continue this through 2023 all the way through.
00:34:25.780 After the elections in the midterms, the president actually said, the American people like, they
00:34:34.620 saw what we're doing and they don't mind it or they like it, actually.
00:34:37.840 So we're not changing anything.
00:34:40.060 And that's what's happened.
00:34:41.740 The Republicans are divided among themselves.
00:34:45.520 There are Republicans in the House that love this secretly.
00:34:49.620 They are benefiting, maybe they have businesses or industries or there's lobbyists out there
00:34:55.720 that are indebted to the slave labor force that's been brought into the country. 0.67
00:35:02.560 They are profiting by it maybe and didn't really put that much back into it.
00:35:09.220 There's not a lot of unity even on the Republican side on this.
00:35:14.860 And I would put that as a pretty significant factor.
00:35:19.780 And the fact that we just didn't really have coverage, there weren't really very many radio
00:35:26.300 SIGINT operators out there.
00:35:28.520 There weren't enough to make people understand.
00:35:32.320 It's the immigration policy is very complicated.
00:35:37.000 And I think the Democrats were able to exploit the complexity of it to confuse the public,
00:35:43.760 to keep them confused about what was really happening.
00:35:47.600 And I think a lot of Republicans were part of that.
00:35:50.420 They were just they were confused, too.
00:35:52.060 I think they still are.
00:35:53.100 I see it fairly often that they don't really even understand at one major Republican contender
00:36:01.160 in the current lineup right now.
00:36:03.240 I'm not going to name names who asked me what is remain in Mexico recently.
00:36:08.820 Didn't didn't even know what it was.
00:36:10.800 I had to explain to this.
00:36:11.920 Come on.
00:36:12.820 And I got it.
00:36:14.000 Oh, my God.
00:36:15.060 You know, that's a major problem.
00:36:17.580 And it's complicated.
00:36:18.780 And I think the Democrats are able to take advantage of it.
00:36:21.740 Todd, how do people get to all your content?
00:36:27.560 Want to thank you.
00:36:28.740 One, your analysis has been incredible.
00:36:32.080 I just hope I know this audience does, but I hope the folks to the degree possibly force
00:36:37.740 multipliers, because remember, right now we're getting across the border about one combat division
00:36:44.580 a day that's processed and shipped in and another essential combat division that's sneaking in.
00:36:53.260 And the vast majority of these are fighting age men.
00:36:55.960 No nation in the history of the earth has ever invited their own destruction like we're doing here and with the spending.
00:37:02.700 And this also drives part of the spending.
00:37:04.820 So no nation has ever been so reckless.
00:37:07.580 It's leadership.
00:37:08.580 Yes, sir.
00:37:09.060 Go ahead.
00:37:09.600 One one extra minute to give a slight silver lining, possibly a silver lining for 2024.
00:37:17.480 I don't want to be all doom and gloom.
00:37:19.220 People complain that I always depress them after they see me.
00:37:22.020 But if you something to pay attention to for the 2024 election cycle are Democratic constituencies in the big blue cities that are taking the brunt of this mass migration now and are loudly complaining.
00:37:40.400 And in many cases are loudly promising that they are switching to the Republican Party.
00:37:46.760 Black communities in Chicago, Denver, New York, Latino communities that are classic Democratic base constituencies forever, generationally, are now coming out and saying, you know, we we really don't like this.
00:38:04.800 And we don't like it so much that we're going to switch our political allegiance.
00:38:10.100 And they're saying this out loud.
00:38:11.420 And the reason is because these Democratic municipal governments are diverting massive resources that should have gone to helping black communities with housing subsidies and jobs and all the rest of that are instead going to illegal immigrants and foreign nationals that are not even supposed to be here. 0.96
00:38:35.600 And it's happening right in front of their faces, in their neighborhoods, and they've had it.
00:38:41.600 So I would watch that.
00:38:42.720 I would just say that that's maybe a little glimmer of change in the 2024 election that is different than the 22 midterms because those numbers that hadn't really happened by the by the 2022 midterms.
00:38:56.520 And I'll just leave it there.
00:38:59.360 That's fabulous.
00:39:00.520 Fabulous.
00:39:01.140 I agree with you 1000 percent.
00:39:02.660 It's part of the tectonic plate shift.
00:39:04.100 What I call the Patrick Henry who stood up at the that individual who stood up at the Chicago city council meeting and said, you need Trump back to clean up this mess.
00:39:15.600 I thought I think spoke for a lot of folks in the in the black community.
00:39:20.500 Todd, your content.
00:39:21.960 Where do people get it?
00:39:23.700 That's right.
00:39:24.100 Well, you can find me at Benzman Todd X at X.
00:39:27.600 I'm on Getter T.
00:39:28.880 Benzman at Getter and Truth Social.
00:39:31.300 I work for the Center for Immigration Studies, CIS.org.
00:39:37.460 You can find a lot of my work there and my and they support all my travel and all of my field work on donations.
00:39:45.540 So keep that in mind for the holidays and Todd Benzman dot com where you can find everything all together and sign up for my newsletter to.
00:39:55.800 Todd, incredible, incredible, twenty twenty three.
00:40:00.980 So thank you.
00:40:01.640 Look forward to having you back on the show in the new year.
00:40:06.820 Todd Benzman, one of the most brilliant guys out there about this.
00:40:10.160 Oscar Blue Ramirez, you put yourself in harm's way in twenty twenty three.
00:40:13.800 What's your wrap up for the year and your warning to to the folks in this audience?
00:40:20.160 Well, Steve, I just talked to my brother, Ben Berkwano, a couple of days ago, and it was really sad to talk to him in a way that he said we're really close, Oscar, to lose our country.
00:40:29.640 And it is not only at the voters, it is because they they've forgotten, you know, the Constitution of the United States of America was first God and liberty and freedom.
00:40:39.680 And as a foreigner to your country, Steve, I can tell you that that is the number one thing that Americans are forgetting, that the Constitution says about God, freedom and and respectful law and order.
00:40:49.580 And those are the founding things that the United States was built upon.
00:40:53.460 And you can see that the actual administration of the United States of America does not care about those foundations and those things that they are so important to represent the United States.
00:41:07.880 But it's just a lot of Americans have told me as a foreigner, you know, the Mexico is corrupt. 0.78
00:41:13.420 Mexico has a lot of corruption and has a lot of corrupt politicians.
00:41:16.100 And right now, sadly, I can say how far are the politicians from the United States corruptibly and almost exactly the same or worse than the ones in Mexico, because they know what is happening at your borders. 0.50
00:41:27.520 They know what is actually continuously going on at the borders.
00:41:31.220 Millions of people.
00:41:32.240 We talked about this, Steve.
00:41:33.160 One day we were talking about quantities of people not too far along with initiation of the year.
00:41:39.280 And we were talking about two million, one million.
00:41:41.600 Now we are estimating on 10 million.
00:41:43.440 And it is just it is just impossible for a country to sustain this.
00:41:47.460 It is just unbelievable to sustain it.
00:41:49.720 And for what Bob Benzman was telling about the year 2024, I believe that is going to be double the influx.
00:41:56.340 It is going to be worse than 2023 already.
00:41:59.720 Steve, just for you to let you know, Central and South American authorities are already preparing because they know that election year is going to be the next 2024.
00:42:08.840 And already preparing in the Darien Gap, they're already preparing in Central and South America how they're going to combat the organized crime, how they are going to try to slow down the pace.
00:42:18.760 What the Biden administration has done to the continent of America and the world is just the idea that there is no border.
00:42:25.020 There's no country and you don't deserve a border and there's no need for a border.
00:42:28.340 There's no need for border security.
00:42:29.620 And that's the worst thing about it, that I see Americans right now that they're really comfortable.
00:42:34.880 I see Republicans that they're not doing anything, anything, absolutely anything for their country.
00:42:41.180 And one day, Steve, you will sadly one American. 0.96
00:42:44.480 I don't want that to happen because I love the United States of America.
00:42:47.740 They're going to be standing on the other side where I'm standing and be admiring the country like it is, the United States.
00:42:54.280 And you will be saying, oh, that's a beautiful country.
00:42:56.920 And I will tell you, you know, you had it and you let it go.
00:43:02.560 What is your social media?
00:43:04.040 How did we get to you, Oscar?
00:43:06.380 Oscar Blue Ramirez, sir, and Twitter and all around.
00:43:08.860 And, of course, Real America's Voice News, sir.
00:43:10.720 Thank you so much.
00:43:13.160 You're the best.
00:43:13.960 Happy New Year, brother.
00:43:14.840 Stay safe.
00:43:15.480 Oscar Blue Ramirez from Mexico.
00:43:20.740 Incredible.
00:43:22.780 Listen to his words.
00:43:25.220 Short break.
00:43:25.940 Back in a moment.
00:43:45.480 Welcome back to the war room.
00:43:57.280 Of course, the single most important effort was in the removal of the Speaker of the House.
00:44:04.600 And why was that?
00:44:05.820 Because of the lies and misrepresentation.
00:44:07.660 Doing nothing on impeachment, doing nothing on stopping the madness of the spending, doing nothing at all on the southern border.
00:44:16.600 And passing H.R.
00:44:17.400 And the House is just not good enough.
00:44:20.080 That's kind of the old method of, yes, you have to pass bills.
00:44:24.000 And there was hard fart and had amendments.
00:44:25.520 Don't get me wrong.
00:44:26.840 But that was more of a messaging bill.
00:44:29.300 Understanding in the Senate, you have to take other actions.
00:44:31.920 The defunding process.
00:44:33.040 This is why we're quite adamant that we've had it now.
00:44:36.740 You've heard from the review of 2023, the scale of the invasion of the country.
00:44:41.760 Remember, your country is being invaded.
00:44:44.840 You can't call it anything else.
00:44:47.400 And the deportation programs are what it's going to take to sort this mess out.
00:44:51.660 It's going to take years to get done and be quite, how do I say, messy.
00:44:59.880 So you have to stop now.
00:45:03.140 What Todd Benson was saying is coming in 2024.
00:45:05.560 It must be stopped.
00:45:06.580 The way to do that is simple.
00:45:08.680 And we're adamant about this.
00:45:10.520 Shut down the border or shut down the government.
00:45:13.900 The government spending is out of control.
00:45:15.460 And the things they're talking about, 1% CR, if we do a whole CR,
00:45:19.100 and that CR is still at Nancy Pelosi levels.
00:45:23.080 There's just not enough focus.
00:45:25.140 There's not enough hardness.
00:45:26.760 There's not enough toughness, given the crisis the country's in.
00:45:30.840 And on these elements, as we've shown you in 2023,
00:45:35.640 we're very rarely, if ever, wrong on these big topics.
00:45:40.040 We can kind of analyze them and say, hey, boom.
00:45:42.480 And remember, Rahim, myself, Ben, others,
00:45:45.500 been working on these for over 10 years now.
00:45:49.100 And it's only getting worse.
00:45:51.160 Now, we've had big victories.
00:45:53.160 You're showing your political muscle by what was accomplished in the House,
00:45:58.760 which was monumental.
00:46:00.620 And we're moving McCarthy and starting to break the cartel.
00:46:03.600 Because the same cartel that runs the imperial capital through the House
00:46:08.440 and the Senate is the exact same donor class,
00:46:11.480 the exact same donor class,
00:46:13.100 that essentially put Ron DeSantis back in line,
00:46:18.200 but really exposed that Ron DeSantis was not going to meet the moment.
00:46:22.140 It was not the man of kind of character and toughness and judgment
00:46:25.240 that a lot of people thought he was.
00:46:27.780 He was not.
00:46:28.440 We were pretty open and adamant about that from the very beginning.
00:46:31.920 We've been proved to be right once again.
00:46:33.980 And I can tell you that what Nikki Haley is trying to do is even more insidious
00:46:39.940 because there, I believe the donor class understand they cannot defeat President Trump
00:46:45.820 in the face of the power of this audience,
00:46:49.600 the power of the war room posse and the MAGA movement,
00:46:52.280 and its absolute backing of President Trump,
00:46:55.160 that they'll try it a different way.
00:46:57.440 And that way is to try to slip it under the tent
00:46:59.700 and try to either get her on the ticket
00:47:01.620 or have a big role in some sort of policymaking,
00:47:04.840 which we absolutely cannot have.
00:47:07.360 If 2023 shows us anything,
00:47:09.280 if 2023 shows us anything,
00:47:11.860 it shows us the importance of America first.
00:47:13.800 It shows us the importance of sovereignty.
00:47:16.100 And so hopefully over the next couple of days,
00:47:18.140 New Year's Eve's tomorrow,
00:47:19.080 I want to thank Real America's Voice,
00:47:20.380 the entire team,
00:47:21.720 Parker, Rob, Sig, Harry, all of them,
00:47:23.840 the team in Denver, just spectacular.
00:47:26.060 I want to thank everybody.
00:47:27.440 For the year that we've had,
00:47:29.320 I've been blessed to have also my own production team,
00:47:32.540 which has been fantastic.
00:47:34.120 And, of course, Grace Chung, Mo, Natalie, Jane Zirkle,
00:47:38.840 all the rest of the folks that help every day,
00:47:41.000 either with content or distribution.
00:47:42.580 But most of you, this audience,
00:47:44.380 a lot to think about over the weekend
00:47:45.920 as you reflect upon your accomplishments,
00:47:49.040 the ascendancy of this movement,
00:47:50.880 the ascendancy of you,
00:47:51.880 because you are the vanguard of this.
00:47:53.360 You're the cadre at the vanguard.
00:47:55.380 We're going to leave you something to think about.
00:47:57.920 It's going to be this choir,
00:47:59.600 magnificent choir with Auld Lang Syne
00:48:01.680 to end 2023.
00:48:03.840 I want to thank you,
00:48:04.620 and we'll see you back here.
00:48:05.840 Happy New Year.
00:48:06.480 We'll see you back here in the new year.
00:48:10.340 Big special on Monday,
00:48:11.640 our New Year's Day kickoff,
00:48:13.920 the annual New Year's Day kickoff
00:48:15.380 here in the war room.
00:48:16.640 Until then, Happy New Year.
00:48:17.940 We'll see you on Monday.
00:48:19.520 For Auld Lang Syne
00:48:24.520 For Auld Lang Syne
00:48:30.320 My dear
00:48:31.380 For Auld Lang Syne
00:48:38.180 I will take a cup of kindness
00:48:43.600 Yet for Auld Lang Syne
00:48:50.420 And surely you'll buy your wine cup
00:48:56.500 And surely I'll buy my wine
00:49:02.800 And will take a cup of kindness yet
00:49:08.880 For Auld Lang Syne
00:49:15.040 For Auld Lang Syne
00:49:23.620 For Auld Lang Syne
00:49:28.040 We'll take a cup of kindness
00:49:33.200 Yet for Auld Lang Syne
00:49:40.040 We do have had all in the stream
00:49:46.940 From morning sun till night
00:49:52.620 Our singing is between us
00:49:56.840 Broad afroars 1.00
00:49:59.200 Since Auld Lang Syne
00:50:04.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:50:05.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:50:09.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:50:11.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:50:17.420 We'll take a cup of kindness
00:50:22.420 Yet for Auld Lang Syne
00:50:29.420 And there's a hand
00:50:33.860 And there's a hand
00:50:33.880 My trusty friend
00:50:37.360 And he's the hand of thine
00:50:44.100 We'll take a right
00:50:48.440 Good will draught
00:50:51.100 For Auld Lang Syne
00:50:57.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:51:02.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:51:04.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:51:09.420 We'll take a cup of kindness
00:51:14.420 Yet for Auld Lang Syne
00:51:20.420 For Auld Lang Syne
00:51:25.420 We'll take a cup of kindness
00:51:30.420 Yet for Auld Lang Syne
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