Bannon's War Room - January 17, 2024


Episode 3322： Deconstructing The Fourth Branch Of Government; The Billionaire Class


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

165.13202

Word Count

9,206

Sentence Count

686

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

On this episode of War Room, Stephen K. Bann and his co-host, Evan Lewis, discuss the current state of the conservative movement and how it intersects with Donald Trump's agenda. They also discuss the role of evangelicals and how they have failed to live up to the values they claim to believe in.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So let's let's show the blasphemy that is coming out of the evangelical right with this God complex that that Donald Trump and his supporters are putting forth here.
00:00:10.300 You know, the evangelical church has failed this country. Not only have they failed America, but they've also failed Christianity.
00:00:17.800 They are so far away from the gospels of Jesus. Could you imagine if the evangelical church actually followed what they claim to preach in the Bible?
00:00:25.400 We wouldn't have had four years of Donald Trump. We would have had an insurrection in January 6th.
00:00:30.500 We wouldn't have had the cruelty that we saw with kids in cages. We wouldn't have this idea that character doesn't seem to matter anymore.
00:00:37.440 Could you imagine the kind of country we would have we would have had by now if the evangelicals actually followed the Bible they claim to worship?
00:00:44.520 Instead, they're following their God, their golden orange God and Donald Trump. And this is a way of us pointing that out.
00:00:50.320 Politicians are simply reflecting the overwhelming majority of Republicans that put them in office in primaries.
00:00:58.980 Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, I'm not even going to really go there, but there was a line that I guess I will go there that Hillary Clinton got in trouble for in 2016 when she used the term deplorable.
00:01:12.240 But that is kind of where we are. Right. And I think it's now coming to where we're seeing the fact that there are a lot of folks out there in America who this is what they believe in.
00:01:23.360 This is what they want. And you certainly see that in the Republican Party where you have you do have some Republicans out there who I think are still very much struggling to find a home.
00:01:34.020 You know, is there a moderate Republican left that I can vote for?
00:01:37.820 And sometimes you do see those Republicans in primaries, but they almost always lose to the MAGA extremists if they are running against a MAGA Republican.
00:01:46.740 And then that person oftentimes, especially in swing districts, more often than not, loses in the general election.
00:01:52.860 So it's something the Republican Party is going to have to grapple with.
00:01:55.500 Again, I remember in 2016 knowing that someday this was going to all come back around and the Republicans were going to have a really hard time trying to figure out how to move forward as a party while they embrace this MAGA movement.
00:02:08.060 And here we're seeing this play out in real time now.
00:02:10.680 If you look at the lines of work, I kind of break it out into three verticals or three buckets.
00:02:14.240 The first is kind of national security and sovereignty, and that's your intelligence, the Defense Department, Homeland Security.
00:02:20.020 The second line of work is what I refer to as economic nationalism, and that is Wilbur Ross at Commerce, Steve Mnuchin at Treasury, Lighthizer at Trade, Peter Navarro, Stephen Miller,
00:02:31.740 these people that are rethinking how we're going to reconstruct our trade arrangements around the world.
00:02:36.740 The third, broadly, line of work is what is deconstruction of the administrative state.
00:02:41.860 And if you...
00:02:44.860 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:02:52.440 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:02:57.680 I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
00:03:01.940 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:03:03.840 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:05.280 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:03:07.880 It's going to happen.
00:03:09.240 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:03:12.640 MAGA Media.
00:03:13.980 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:03:19.400 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:03:23.180 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:03:29.380 War Room.
00:03:30.420 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:03:32.460 Bann.
00:03:36.480 It's Wednesday, 17 March, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:03:39.600 Things heat up in New Hampshire.
00:03:40.660 We're going to get to all of that.
00:03:42.280 President Trump speaks again tonight at 7 o'clock.
00:03:45.260 Of course, we'll be covering it live, live streaming it.
00:03:49.860 That last...
00:03:51.120 Of course, you've seen the hate nonstop.
00:03:52.660 We're getting into all that.
00:03:53.540 Dave Brett.
00:03:54.040 Others are going to join us.
00:03:55.040 We're going to be in Davos.
00:03:55.980 We have Dr. Kevin Roberts from Heritage and, of course, our own Noor Bin Laden to report
00:04:02.520 from there.
00:04:02.800 Peter Navarro is also going to jump in here.
00:04:05.040 We've got a lot to go through, economics, politics, geopolitics, all of it.
00:04:10.040 That little slice at the end was from 23 February, I believe, of 2017.
00:04:17.340 It was really the first time publicly I'd come out and working for President Trump.
00:04:21.360 It was CPAC.
00:04:22.840 And I walked through...
00:04:23.500 It holds up pretty well, doesn't it?
00:04:24.840 The three lines of work.
00:04:25.840 The national security and get your sovereignty back, the economic nationalism to get your
00:04:32.800 economy back.
00:04:34.360 And the last was the deconstruction of the administrative state.
00:04:37.200 Now, here's what's interesting in this, folks.
00:04:39.680 In that audience was essentially the war room posse, right?
00:04:43.900 Pre-war room posse.
00:04:44.920 But the people in 15 and 16 had come together and rejected neoliberalism, had rejected the
00:04:51.360 neocon version of the traditional Republican Party and put President Trump in the greatest
00:04:55.240 come-from-behind victory in history.
00:04:57.760 And people were still in shock.
00:04:58.980 The Republican Party is still in shock.
00:05:00.300 He won the nomination.
00:05:02.040 But the bigger shock is he actually won the presidency.
00:05:04.280 But you heard the audience clapping.
00:05:08.920 In CPAC, when you sit on that stage, you look out in those days, there was, you know, because
00:05:13.980 President Trump was going to come and talk.
00:05:15.660 There was literally hundreds, if not thousands, of media from all over the world.
00:05:20.400 And I could tell back to when I said the deconstruction of the administrative state, these guys were
00:05:25.140 looking at each other, the smart, the brilliant journalists from around the world, like, what
00:05:29.200 is he talking about?
00:05:30.240 What is this?
00:05:30.780 This is another crazy Bannon thing.
00:05:32.620 The people in the audience were the ones cheering.
00:05:35.000 And as that went on, the cheer even got later, a lot louder.
00:05:40.200 Because you folks get it.
00:05:42.360 You understood that, you know, it's different than a bureaucracy, different than bureaucrats.
00:05:46.340 There was a fourth branch of government that had been built up by the progressive left and the
00:05:51.580 billionaire class.
00:05:52.560 We have to hold them account of the billionaire class that had, was not in the Constitution,
00:05:58.420 had really usurped the power of the other three branches of government.
00:06:02.380 It had its own courts.
00:06:03.840 It had its own policymaking.
00:06:05.400 It had its own enforcement.
00:06:07.280 And it's deeper than just the alphabet agencies.
00:06:09.420 There's also the cabinet positions and all the interconnectivity.
00:06:12.660 And, of course, you have the rogue element of that, the deep state, which is really the
00:06:16.000 national security.
00:06:16.820 Now, that was the part that we were just at the very beginning stages.
00:06:20.720 It started in November after one of the, what I call the nullification project.
00:06:25.360 That was the deep state's nullification project in President Trump's first term.
00:06:29.020 This is why I always say President Trump had two elections stolen in the 2016 in which
00:06:33.940 he won.
00:06:35.580 And they couldn't, you know, they couldn't steal from us because we locked it down.
00:06:38.760 But they then proceeded to steal so much of what he could have gotten done by this unconstitutional,
00:06:46.180 illegal, unwarranted attack on President Trump and his people and his policies every day.
00:06:51.280 And then, of course, in 2020, where they outright stole it.
00:06:54.660 And the polling, I think the biggest issue that got him melting down in the entrance polls
00:07:00.760 to the caucuses, I think it's two-thirds, the 75% of the caucus goers, believe that, wait
00:07:07.200 for it, Joe Biden's illegitimate and stole the presidency.
00:07:11.560 Today is a bold-faced name, you know, major day in this fight against the administrative
00:07:21.100 state.
00:07:21.980 We clearly, if you followed us with Dr. Kevin Roberts' team and Paul Dance and those guys
00:07:27.380 over at Heritage and Dr. Roberts is going to join us from Davos later, if you look at
00:07:33.260 what Russ Vogt and the gray team over at CRA are doing, they're all prepping now with people
00:07:38.280 in policies to be ready to hit the beach running essentially a year from now, roughly a year
00:07:43.960 Saturday, right after high noon.
00:07:46.540 They'll be the transition team and then hit the beach running with policies and personnel,
00:07:51.060 particularly in the 3,000 non-Senate confirmed.
00:07:54.140 The other aspect of this has to be the legal aspect.
00:07:57.180 And quite frankly, this is why Gorsuch and others were principally selected, their intellectual
00:08:02.840 leadership on the deconstruction of the administrative state.
00:08:05.640 This gets around a case called Chevron, the Chevron deference.
00:08:09.460 And we've got Paul Ingrassia, a Claremont fellow, Jeff Clark, we're going to have Mike
00:08:13.880 Davis, who was the clerk for Judge Gorsuch.
00:08:17.080 We're trying to get him this afternoon after the arguments.
00:08:19.840 I want to start with Paul Ingrassia.
00:08:21.380 Paul, can you explain the Chevron deference?
00:08:23.220 Why is this so important and why is this day for this case to come up?
00:08:27.220 We had the West Virginia case last year against EPA, but this is a landmark case.
00:08:32.160 This is going to be one of the most important topics covered in this session, this year of
00:08:36.280 the Supreme Court, sir.
00:08:39.060 Well, Steve, I think you may have swapped me out.
00:08:45.440 I think Jeff Clark may have been on to discuss Chevron, but.
00:08:50.700 OK, fine.
00:08:52.060 Hang on.
00:08:52.800 Hang on.
00:08:53.120 Let me go right to Jeff because Jeff's our guy.
00:08:55.760 Jeff, tell me what you got.
00:08:56.880 Tell me.
00:08:57.240 Tell me about the Chevron deference.
00:09:01.640 Sure, Steve.
00:09:02.980 So thanks for being here.
00:09:04.720 Look, Chevron is the Mac Daddy of the administrative state.
00:09:09.000 It is a case from 1984 that Justice Stevens wrote.
00:09:12.660 It creates a two part test I'll describe.
00:09:14.980 But the reason why it's in the news right now is even as we speak, Supreme Court arguments
00:09:19.760 have begun in two interrelated cases that are going under the title Loper Bright.
00:09:25.740 So that'll go from now until noon today, same time as your show.
00:09:29.460 And it is truly landmark because if this Chevron deference doctrine, which upholds the administrative
00:09:34.780 state, is reversed or limited significantly by the Supreme Court, it is a first major step
00:09:41.000 in clipping the wings of the administrative state.
00:09:43.140 So first, let me do what does the Chevron case do, and then let me talk about Loper Bright
00:09:47.980 as this occasion to reconsider it.
00:09:51.280 So in Chevron, there was the Clean Air Act, and the Clean Air Act told EPA that they were
00:09:57.880 regulating emission sources.
00:10:00.200 And then the issue is, well, what was the source?
00:10:02.400 So the Carter administration drilled down to source as the smallest pipe or release valve
00:10:10.440 that might let some kind of air emission out.
00:10:13.140 The Reagan administration broadened it to say that it should be an entire plant, like
00:10:18.360 imagine a bubble or a dome over the plant.
00:10:20.980 And that aggregation gave companies a lot more flexibility, and the Supreme Court decided
00:10:25.660 they would defer to the Reagan administration's interpretation, and it created this two-part
00:10:31.060 test that basically said, if the statute's unambiguous, if it's clear, then you follow the statute.
00:10:36.840 And if the agency does something contrary to that, then that's unlawful in its regulations.
00:10:40.940 But if the statute is ambiguous, then any reasonable interpretation of those statutory terms gets
00:10:48.960 deferred to, even by the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:10:52.060 Now, as I described it, it's not necessarily a crazy result in that case.
00:10:56.820 But over time, the door or the crack of that door from Chevron has just expanded, expanded,
00:11:02.760 and expanded. And that brings us to this Loper-Bright case that's being heard right now.
00:11:08.240 In the Loper-Bright case, we're dealing with some herring fishermen who are in Cape May, New Jersey,
00:11:14.100 and they're regulated by this agency that, you know, to me is not obscure, but I think to most folks would be obscure,
00:11:20.840 where the National Marine Fisheries Service, NIMS, and I think they like that name as it ties to the sea,
00:11:28.860 they issued regulations that required these herring fishermen to have federal observers.
00:11:34.600 And even if that takes up as much as 20% of their profits from a given haul of fish in order to police,
00:11:43.040 you know, whether they're staying within, you know, their kind of regulations of what fish they can take
00:11:48.760 and, you know, bycatch and things like that.
00:11:51.560 And this is outrageous because the statutory scheme actually only imposes the obligation to pay for these
00:11:58.720 federal observers on narrower classes of fishermen that don't apply to the herring fishermen,
00:12:04.880 and they're capped at 2%, except if you're a foreign fisherman.
00:12:09.100 So these guys are being required to pay 20% just because NIMS said so.
00:12:15.140 And the First Circuit said, you know, well, it's, you know, it's ambiguous.
00:12:21.260 This, you know, the statute's ambiguous because it refers to, you know, what's necessary and proper for the agency to do.
00:12:28.900 So we're going to go ahead and allow them to impose this massive tax.
00:12:32.580 So, you know, it would be tremendous to see the Supreme Court, you know, sweep in here and say,
00:12:37.580 look, the Chevron Doctrine has gotten out of hand.
00:12:40.200 I gave a speech once to see where I said...
00:12:51.260 Is he frozen?
00:12:53.660 Yeah.
00:12:54.120 Okay, let's, that's, he's on his Skype.
00:12:57.000 So let's, we're going to come back to that.
00:12:59.240 I want him to describe the administrative state.
00:13:00.840 Think about it for a second.
00:13:01.700 You have to have federal observers on the fishing boats to take up 20% of the profits.
00:13:06.400 The thing with the administrative state is it's expanded so much into every aspect of life.
00:13:12.200 They have the ability.
00:13:13.920 They have their own court system.
00:13:15.480 They have their own policymaking and the federal regulations.
00:13:18.800 This is one of the reasons, like, with this SEC, we're going to get more into this, I think, on the evening show.
00:13:25.920 The natural asset companies, this end around, same thing they're doing with, like, the WHO and HHS plays footsie with them to cede our sovereignty to the WHO.
00:13:36.240 The same thing you're seeing with these natural asset companies, take away property rights, and maybe who knows who actually get into these companies like the CCP or others that could actually control the natural resources of the United States.
00:13:49.200 These are all from these administrative agencies, and it's not just the alphabet agencies.
00:13:52.960 Also, the cabinet positions and the cabinet offices have expanded their powers, right, and now have this kind of interlocking grip on the United States of America.
00:14:05.760 We're going to get Brother Clark back up.
00:14:08.700 Big day at the Supreme Court.
00:14:10.680 Big day in politics, economics, all of it.
00:14:13.400 We're going to get back.
00:14:14.420 Paul Ingrassi has got a very sharp take, almost like a Garrett Ziggler-type take on Fannie Willis.
00:14:19.780 The lawfare around President Trump continues to collapse, although they've got him in New York court on this defamation, another kangaroo court in New York to try to strip President Trump of his wealth, his property, all of it as the lawfare continues unabated.
00:14:36.980 President Trump will speak at 7 p.m. tonight in New Hampshire.
00:14:39.760 We'll be covering that.
00:14:41.600 We've got a lot going on today, Jan.
00:14:43.800 We're going to go back to Davos with Laura bin Laden shortly.
00:14:47.220 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:48.680 Back in the warm in a moment.
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00:16:23.900 Okay, Jeff Clark, I think we worked out the technical bugs.
00:16:27.600 Jeff, just for the audience, because I see a lot of this in the chat,
00:16:30.540 just describe the administrative state.
00:16:32.540 When we talk about it, I want to make sure people think,
00:16:34.620 oh, because, you know, the media, media matters going to be on,
00:16:36.760 you know, this is another crazy war room conspiracy.
00:16:39.720 By the way, folks, the Wall Street Journal today talks about the Chinese Communist Party,
00:16:44.340 the PLA, the lab, and Navarro's going to talk about this,
00:16:48.800 working on specific documentation proven by this committee over there that's looking into it,
00:16:55.740 about they were working on the COVID-19 in December.
00:16:59.420 As we said in mid-January of 2020, when we shifted from impeachment to war and pandemic.
00:17:06.820 So suck on that.
00:17:08.240 We'll get into that with Navarro in the second hour of the show.
00:17:11.440 Describe the administrative state, Clark, about the size of it, the scale of it.
00:17:15.280 It's really beyond the – that's why we live in a post-constitutional quasi-republic right now,
00:17:22.580 is because of the administrative state.
00:17:24.080 Describe it and why this case today is so vitally important.
00:17:27.360 Sure.
00:17:29.620 So, Steve, look, the Constitution that the framers gave us is one of the separation of powers.
00:17:36.140 The Congress writes the laws, right, the Article I branch.
00:17:39.880 The executive branch enforces them.
00:17:41.980 The Article II branch and the Article III branch, the courts, interpret the laws.
00:17:46.100 As Marbury v. Madison said, it is emphatically the province and duty of the courts
00:17:50.840 to say what the law is to interpret it.
00:17:53.600 But what happened, especially after the New Deal, is that they fused these powers into executive agencies.
00:18:01.900 So you have these agencies, and as you said, it encompasses cabinet agencies, non-cabinet agencies,
00:18:09.360 and also these so-called independent agencies that are trying to be walled off from the president.
00:18:13.880 And they fuse these powers because they can issue regulations, which are functionally new laws, new statutes.
00:18:20.180 They also have their own court systems, so they're interpreting the law, and they're enforcing it all at the same time.
00:18:27.160 And so, you know, Montesquieu told us, and the framers adopted it, that if you have all three powers of law adoption,
00:18:34.460 law enforcement, and law interpretation all fused into one agency or body, that is the essence of tyranny.
00:18:41.940 So that is what the administrative is and has become.
00:18:45.340 And so the stakes in this Loper Bright case about the, you know, poor herring fishermen in New Jersey,
00:18:51.840 in Cape May, New Jersey, is of the greatest stakes because it could begin to unravel the fusion of all of those powers
00:18:58.460 in one branch of government.
00:19:00.200 What we need is for the courts to be the ones who interpret the statutes,
00:19:03.740 and also we need to be Congress, to have Congress enacting the laws.
00:19:08.700 If the agencies enact the laws, Congress just sits on the sidelines,
00:19:12.880 and it gives us what we saw in Obamacare, where Nancy Pelosi said,
00:19:17.460 look, we're going to have to pass it to see what's in it.
00:19:20.020 Well, why is that?
00:19:21.300 Because Nancy Pelosi recognizes that the agencies would be the ones to fill in all of the so-called gaps,
00:19:27.940 but in reality, that just gives them delegated lawmaking power, Steve.
00:19:31.860 What do you, give us a heads up on this, on the actual argument today.
00:19:39.220 What do you anticipate you're going to hear?
00:19:42.940 Well, I think you're going to hear great skepticism about this position by NIMS,
00:19:48.760 the National Marine Fisheries Service.
00:19:51.360 I can't imagine that their interpretation where they can basically impose their own 20% tax
00:19:57.860 when they're just an administrative body without congressional authorization is going to fly.
00:20:03.340 So there are narrow ways for that result to be achieved,
00:20:06.760 and there are broader ways for that result to be achieved.
00:20:10.280 The broadest way would be for this Chevron doctrine to be struck down or significantly cut back.
00:20:17.680 But it's possible that the court just says, look, this fails at Chevron step one.
00:20:23.580 The agency was never given the power to impose these monitors and make the federal monitors get on the boats
00:20:31.580 in violation of the fact that Congress explicitly imposed that condition only on some types of fishermen
00:20:38.980 and not these types of fishermen.
00:20:40.920 So hopefully the court will go broad, but I think that will be the fight that you'll see unfold.
00:20:45.380 You'll see the liberal justices trying to contain the damage by limiting it just to getting rid of this case.
00:20:55.040 There's a whole movement, though, across the country to try to bring these types of cases up.
00:20:58.880 We understand that just what President Trump is going to do with Heritage and with CRA and others
00:21:04.760 to deconstruct it piecemeal, brick by brick, Congress has to get involved,
00:21:10.140 but particularly you have to do this.
00:21:11.560 You have to at some point go after the entire Chevron doctrine and hopefully the deference is overturned.
00:21:17.580 But if this just takes a chip away at it, there's other things throughout the country that are brewing up that people are taking cases now,
00:21:24.580 particularly when you have guys like Gorsuch and others that are very focused on this issue.
00:21:29.520 Exactly. Look, Steve, the separation of powers was basically in many ways thrown in the wastebasket as a result of the New Deal.
00:21:39.960 And we need to take it back and restore it, dust it off and give it its place of prominence in our legal system.
00:21:47.760 And the Chevron doctrine is huge.
00:21:50.060 I think even if the court doesn't press ahead in this case, eventually Justice Gorsuch in particular is going to drive them to take a case to do that.
00:21:59.260 But also, you know, it's things like the fact that we have heads of agencies who, you know,
00:22:04.860 they have tenures that the president can't remove them because they can only be removed for cause.
00:22:09.860 I think that's a violation of the appointments clause, which is an aspect of the separation of powers.
00:22:14.660 These are key things that were put in place to be able to enact agencies like the FTC and the EPA and the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC.
00:22:25.740 And, you know, we need to get back to, you know, Republican, Democratic constitutional governance,
00:22:32.140 where it's the people who select the president and then the president who sets policies.
00:22:37.320 But in terms of enacting the laws, it's Congress that enacts the laws.
00:22:40.260 And at this point, we have, as you continually flog, a kind of do-nothing Congress.
00:22:48.880 Where do people get to you?
00:22:50.340 How do they track you down on social media?
00:22:52.160 How do they follow you on this and many other topics that you're in the middle of?
00:22:57.320 Sure, Steve.
00:22:58.140 So the Center for Renewing America is at americarenewing.com.
00:23:02.680 I'm at JeffClarkUS on Getter and X and at RealJeffClark on Truth Social, Steve.
00:23:10.260 Thanks.
00:23:12.300 Thanks, Brother Clark.
00:23:14.060 A fantastic job.
00:23:15.580 We'll talk to you after the arguments today.
00:23:17.840 Say how it went.
00:23:19.980 Excellent.
00:23:20.900 Deconstruction of the administrative state.
00:23:24.400 Remember, if you want to get to the deep state, you've got to take on the administrative state because it's the rogue element of it.
00:23:29.600 Paul Ingracia.
00:23:30.360 Okay, lawfare is relentless against President Trump.
00:23:34.180 It's their ace in the hole how they think they're going to bet the Biden regime and, of course, the crazies over at State TV, at MSNBC, kind of the RT of America.
00:23:45.540 Walk to me through.
00:23:46.540 You've been pretty out there about Fannie Willis.
00:23:49.680 Tell me about Fannie Willis.
00:23:50.840 What has she done?
00:23:52.060 What's the problem?
00:23:52.960 And is she going to be able to continue to torment President Trump, Paul?
00:23:56.760 Well, I think based on the revelations that came to the forefront this week, this case should be dismissed.
00:24:04.340 And Brian Kemp, being the governor of the state of Georgia, has a constitutional prerogative to appoint his attorney general, Chris Carr, to intervene in this case.
00:24:15.320 And that is something that he has the power to do.
00:24:18.700 Now, the issues with this case, obviously, there are political improprieties that started from the very beginning.
00:24:25.440 We know that this is a political hit job.
00:24:27.280 This is a continuation of the weaponization of the justice system against President Trump by the left.
00:24:34.660 But now we see that Fannie Willis' improprieties go far beyond that to moral and ethical proprieties and deep-seated violations of their professional code of conduct.
00:24:47.840 Now, Fannie Willis appointed this special prosecutor by the name of Nathaniel Wade, who, prior to being put on the most consequential criminal prosecution, arguably in American history, the fact that you're involving a sitting president, this guy was basically a traffic court judge.
00:25:07.640 He didn't prosecute anything beyond a misdemeanor.
00:25:10.940 So this guy was patently inexperienced to take on a case of this magnitude, just, you know, at face value.
00:25:18.860 Now, the rot runs much, much deeper than that.
00:25:22.740 Once he was appointed to the case, the day afterwards, he filed for divorce against his now ex-wife, Joycelyn Wade.
00:25:31.640 So from court records based on that divorce filing, which were immediately put under seal, it revealed that he had not disclosed up to, you know, she alleged at the time that he was getting paid $700,000 as a result.
00:25:49.200 Or, I mean, basically she wanted financial disclosures from him.
00:25:54.240 He was not handing them over to her.
00:25:57.580 The court actually held him in contempt for that.
00:25:59.920 Now, think of this.
00:26:00.840 This is a divorce proceeding.
00:26:02.860 This guy, Nathaniel Wade, Fonnie Wilson's special prosecutor, had experience prosecuting these types of cases before.
00:26:11.180 He was a misdemeanor, you know, as I explained before.
00:26:14.380 And so he should have been readily familiar with how divorce proceedings work.
00:26:18.680 He withheld critical financial disclosures to his ex-wife.
00:26:23.560 The court held him in contempt for that.
00:26:26.780 And as a result, he was forced to ultimately disclose that he was making over $700,000 by, at least $700,000 by Fonnie Wilson's office.
00:26:38.940 Now, this has been independently substantiated by a really explosive motion to dismiss filed by one of the 17 co-defendants on this case, a man by the name of Mike Roman, who was a former employee of President Trump's.
00:26:59.720 He alleged, among other things, that she was getting paid, he said, a million dollars from Fonnie Wilson's office.
00:27:07.600 In addition, Nathan Wade, while on the case, had been making trips to Washington, D.C., petitioning both the January 6th committee as well as the Biden White House for additional funding for the case.
00:27:22.220 Breitbart reported that they received up to $14 million from the Justice Department to add to their budget.
00:27:29.980 Now, what were they doing with this money?
00:27:32.820 Further disclosures that have been—
00:27:35.220 Hey, Paul, hang on one second.
00:27:37.560 We're just taking a commercial break.
00:27:38.700 Paul and Grace and Gracia joins us.
00:27:41.000 The Fonnie Willis case is going to fall apart.
00:27:44.300 Now, one of the key parts of this is Kemp happens to be, for the second year in a row, guess where?
00:27:51.440 Davos.
00:27:52.220 We're going to talk about that with Noor Ben Laden, Dr. Kevin Roberts, and Peter Navarro.
00:27:58.500 I'll go and join us a little later.
00:27:59.640 Paul will be back on the other side.
00:28:01.260 We drill down on what needs to be done to drop this outrageous lawfare against President Trump in the great state of Georgia.
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00:30:34.860 All kinds of – they're calling over the White House.
00:30:37.340 They still want to talk about this Langford bill.
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00:31:23.360 Paul, her – what she's done here is so outrageous and actually criminal.
00:31:28.700 But what is to be done?
00:31:29.940 They're down in Georgia.
00:31:31.180 Kemp's in Davos for the second time.
00:31:33.920 He was there last year saying there was no election fraud at all.
00:31:37.440 He's viriantly anti-Trump.
00:31:38.840 Remember, he's the real stalking house.
00:31:41.240 They've got neocon Nicky in there right now but not for 24 unless they do it at a convention.
00:31:47.340 But Kemp's the guy long-term that the Bush apparatus sees as their guy.
00:31:51.440 He's in Davos again.
00:31:53.400 He's sitting there telling people, Paul, that, hey, we've passed this law.
00:31:56.860 They've got to review thing.
00:31:58.140 This should be the first thing they should review.
00:32:00.260 But you're saying you need more immediate action.
00:32:02.220 Is that what I'm hearing?
00:32:03.020 You're saying Kemp's got to step up and empower the attorney general to go do this immediately?
00:32:08.420 Absolutely.
00:32:09.120 And the remedy is actually quite simple.
00:32:11.260 Kemp is making it seem much more complicated than it should be.
00:32:14.280 The remedy is right there in the Georgia State Constitution, Article 5, Section 3, Paragraph 4.
00:32:20.140 It says the governor can appoint the attorney general to intervene and represent the state for all capital and civil and criminal cases in any court when required by the governor.
00:32:30.600 So the power is right there in the state constitution.
00:32:34.600 And what basically needs to be done is the indictment needs to be dismissed.
00:32:39.360 Willis and, of course, her romantic partner here and Wade have to be disciplined sternly by the Georgia bar.
00:32:47.560 The only just remedy for the amount of improprieties involved in this case is to dismiss the indictment without prejudice, reassign the investigation to another district attorney, attorney, and let them start from scratch with a new special purpose grand jury.
00:33:03.440 And depending on the outcome, a new regular grand jury to see if a new indictment can be returned.
00:33:08.860 Anything short of that, Steve, would risk further undermining public confidence in a proceeding where basically public confidence has already bottomed out.
00:33:17.300 And the entire integrity of the American justice system basically hangs on a thread, given the stakes of this case.
00:33:25.560 So that basically is the swift and decisive action that needs to be done.
00:33:29.680 And Brian Kemp has the power to do it.
00:33:32.160 And public pressure has to ratchet up to get Brian Kemp to respond to his constituents.
00:33:37.980 I think what we're going to do is then tomorrow we'll get numbers and phone and Grace will help out here and I think Bill White from down in Fulton County are going to try to get him.
00:33:48.220 Just before I move to one more topic, Paul, this is just not Garrett Ziegler and others and Paul Ingrassi, et cetera.
00:33:55.220 Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:33:56.920 Has she not been – has Fannie Willis not been subpoenaed in the divorce proceedings?
00:34:00.460 Has not the aggrieved, I guess, soon-to-be ex-wife of Nathan Wade?
00:34:05.560 Hasn't she subpoenaed Fannie Willis to the divorce proceedings?
00:34:11.440 Not to my knowledge, and there's so much that they're covering up.
00:34:14.960 Again, I said that whole divorce proceeding was put under seal, under questionable legality.
00:34:20.100 Why that is the case, of course, they're trying to cover up what these Mike Roman revelations revealed.
00:34:26.580 So there's so much there, and I just hit on the – scratched the surface on this.
00:34:32.140 There's – I'm sure the corruption runs all the way through the entire district attorney's office, and that's why the entire thing needs to be totally dismissed without prejudice.
00:34:45.020 Wow.
00:34:46.000 Paul, you've also written a very controversial piece about natural-born citizens.
00:34:49.780 I don't have time to take it up today, but it is a quite big topic that we've got to get into.
00:34:55.400 So we're going to have you back.
00:34:56.340 Until then, what's your social media website?
00:34:58.400 Where do people get your writings on all this?
00:34:59.980 So they can find me on paulandgracia.substack.com.
00:35:04.460 That's where the writings on Fannie Willis are.
00:35:07.220 Obviously, Twitter, Paul and Gracia, and also, as you just alluded to, the natural-born citizenship and presidential eligibility articles there as well.
00:35:17.840 That got a little – that kind of went kind of viral.
00:35:20.880 So we'll have you back on.
00:35:22.180 I want to take our time on that one because it is a – and it's tied to the invasion of the country.
00:35:27.100 It is a very big topic that must be addressed if we believe in the Constitution.
00:35:31.540 Paul and Gracia, thank you so much for coming on, brother.
00:35:33.460 Appreciate it.
00:35:34.640 Thank you, Steve.
00:35:36.700 And Gracia gets a little controversial on topics.
00:35:39.000 He doesn't take the small ones.
00:35:40.100 So we'll get Paul back on here.
00:35:41.340 But follow the Fannie Willis thing.
00:35:42.620 And I think it was Bill White who led the – in Fulton County, the fight, I think, for Buckhead to break off there.
00:35:49.420 He's got his – he's also got a very sharp opinions about this entire situation down there.
00:35:58.020 I've got Dave Brett.
00:35:59.180 I want to bring in Ben's been real quickly here.
00:36:01.660 And Brett, hang on because I'm going to get you in for the politics over at least the strategic part of the politics.
00:36:06.800 So there's a firefight over there right now.
00:36:08.500 They just – they took a snow day off yesterday.
00:36:10.280 They're back.
00:36:10.660 They had a conference.
00:36:11.320 The conference was another brawl.
00:36:13.220 People were accusing people of leaking immediately when things are out there.
00:36:17.080 It got quite heated and quite nasty.
00:36:19.240 And here's the situation is that you do not – people understand because of you, this audience, and the numbers 202-225-3121 that the heat is on.
00:36:30.700 The constituents of the Republican Party and particularly the MAGA part of it, not the establishment part, even the establishment things come around to this, say that the border must be shut down or you can't go forward in this.
00:36:40.440 If you don't shut down the border, if you don't close the border, then shut down the government.
00:36:43.840 Just very simple.
00:36:44.700 No more money.
00:36:45.320 The only weapon you've got is defunding.
00:36:47.700 Not more happy talk.
00:36:48.660 Of course, Langford's come up with an amnesty bill.
00:36:52.440 So Benzman – here's what they want us to do.
00:36:54.320 They want us to agree to Langford's amnesty bill, which gives immediate work permits to 8 million invaders, 50,000 new, this, all this.
00:37:03.440 The one thing they're saying, oh, well, we're discussing humanitarian parole, which you brought up months and months ago.
00:37:09.120 But they're using that as a thing to take your eyes off of what else.
00:37:12.660 It's a massive amnesty bill.
00:37:14.100 At the same time, you would approve $80 billion or $60 billion to Ukraine.
00:37:18.880 They think people are idiots, and that's why lighting up the phones over there, sending emails, calling their local offices, and particularly Langford's office has got them scared to death.
00:37:28.900 Now, they're playing games nonstop.
00:37:30.660 One of the games they're doing – and this talks about these secret negotiations.
00:37:34.040 They've had Blinken, you know, with the Middle East war expanding every day, the Persians now on the Southern Arabian Peninsula with their – the Houthis.
00:37:43.080 They've got the Revolutionary Guard there.
00:37:44.860 They're lobbing into Iraq.
00:37:46.560 We still have troops.
00:37:48.320 Blinken's going to Mexico to cut secret deals.
00:37:50.520 Benjamin, you said this months ago.
00:37:53.340 They're desperate to get the numbers down on the optics.
00:37:56.960 They've got to get the optics down here because they realize this could lead to a landslide election win for us across the board, sir.
00:38:04.800 Explain to us what's going on behind the scenes this audience has to understand.
00:38:09.700 Okay, if you go to CIS.org, Center for Immigration Studies.org, you'll find my reportorial essay there about what's happening in Mexico right now.
00:38:23.880 The border has changed.
00:38:27.040 How it has changed is – remember the shuttle diplomacy of December 22 when Biden went down there and then on the 27th when Mayorkas and Blinken went down there?
00:38:38.760 Well, nobody told us what the deal was, but they cut a deal.
00:38:42.660 We still don't know the details of it, but we now see the fruit of it politically for the Biden administration and for AMLO.
00:38:50.900 Mexico is involved in a massive crackdown at their northern border with ours, rounding up thousands and thousands of immigrants so that they can't cross in as high in numbers and shipping them by bus and airplane down to Villa Hermosa and Tapachula, Mexico.
00:39:09.860 They're creating a new Gaza Strip down there basically and trying to hem in hundreds of thousands coming through there so that they can't reach our border.
00:39:19.520 They are bulldozing migrant camps all along our border.
00:39:26.280 They are digging anti-pedestrian trenches.
00:39:29.200 These are the Mexicans.
00:39:30.160 They are shutting down the freight trains, the cargo trains, which we spoke about here on your show a lot.
00:39:39.600 I did a lot of reporting one year ago about how those freight trains were responsible for hundreds of thousands reaching our border quickly, cheaply, and easily, but that nobody was doing anything about it.
00:39:52.540 Well, now the Mexicans are blockading a whole bunch of the cargo depots down there and pulling them off and shipping them down to their Gaza Strip on the south.
00:40:05.060 The result of this is that, remember, just a few weeks ago, we were having 14,000 a day, 15,000 a day, 12,000 a day, monumental numbers crossing over that border.
00:40:18.680 Now, in January, they've tamped it down to a still catastrophic 5,000 and 6,000 a day, but 60% and 70% off.
00:40:31.500 My sources tell me that this deal is good through December of this year, which just gets us past the election, that this is a political deal.
00:40:42.120 AMLO has signed off on this.
00:40:43.720 We don't know if money has changed hands yet.
00:40:45.720 Nobody's reporting or talking about what we had to pay AMLO to do this, but the posse needs to understand, the American public needs to understand that this is a temporary fake fix for political purposes, and it's not real.
00:41:09.880 And I don't believe that when they start doing victory laps, oh, look, we've got the numbers down, that anybody should give a pass on that because 5,000 a day is a monumental crisis.
00:41:24.240 6,000 a day is a monumental crisis.
00:41:27.900 And what are we paying AMLO for this?
00:41:30.400 Yeah.
00:41:31.020 There are no – by the way, didn't AMLO, I started, it was $20 billion he needed as a payment?
00:41:35.980 That's what the – also the – there are no coincidences, the 5,000 ties to the Lankford.
00:41:44.380 What other word have you heard that – here's the point that McConnell is trying to make.
00:41:51.440 He's saying, oh, you'll never get a deal with Trump because Trump's too tough, Trump's too hard, which by the way, all we have to do is implement the – all we have to do is execute the laws on the books right now, and you can shut this thing down.
00:42:03.580 Totally shut it down, HR2 ads, but if you just did the laws on the books right now, this would dry up.
00:42:09.460 What are you hearing about the behind-the-scenes negotiations right now on this – what is an amnesty bill?
00:42:14.940 The Lankford thing is amnesty.
00:42:16.180 What are you hearing about that?
00:42:17.700 Well, I am trying to plug into that.
00:42:20.520 I'm not directly involved in any of that.
00:42:22.940 But what I'm hearing is that Lankford is negotiating directly with Alejandro Mayorkas.
00:42:30.180 That's like the last person that any Republican should be – like he's the arsonist.
00:42:36.060 I mean, Mayorkas, and that Lankford is not interested in talking to people like me or to people like former Trump officials, Mark Morgan or Thomas Holman or some of the people that have a different perspective on this.
00:42:57.220 Ben's been – hang on one second.
00:43:00.100 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:43:01.380 Dave Brat's with us.
00:43:02.360 We've got Noor bin Laden in Davos, Dr. Roberts in Davos, Navarro were jammed up today.
00:43:08.140 A lot going on Capitol Hill, 202-225-3121.
00:43:12.180 If you don't shut down the border, shut down the government.
00:43:14.400 Very simple.
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00:45:46.840 Okay, we're going to try to get this clip.
00:45:48.580 We're going to play at the top of the hour.
00:45:50.940 Jamie Dimon, one of the biggest never-Trumpers and haters of MAGA,
00:45:57.740 chairman and CEO of J.P. Morgan.
00:46:00.720 Quote, squawk boxes of the morning.
00:46:02.140 I don't like how Trump said things, but he wasn't wrong about those critical issues.
00:46:09.060 That's why they're voting for him.
00:46:11.240 People should be more respectful of our fellow citizens.
00:46:15.960 I think, wait for this punchline.
00:46:18.760 I think this negative talk about MAGA will hurt Biden's campaign.
00:46:24.500 I think this negative talk about MAGA will hurt Biden's campaign,
00:46:30.200 which is all Biden's campaigns around.
00:46:31.900 That's Jamie Dimon.
00:46:33.020 That's the oligarchs of the lords of easy money telling Biden
00:46:36.580 that the American people are with Trump,
00:46:39.220 that this populist movement is real.
00:46:40.700 A newfound populism in Jamie Dimon.
00:46:44.160 Benzman, how do we get smart about this?
00:46:46.780 Where do we go?
00:46:47.720 This fight is our audience is all in.
00:46:50.080 They're the ones who have been standing in the breach here.
00:46:51.900 Another huge fight with the weak-willed, pencil-neck Republican,
00:46:56.360 vast majority of the conference that wants to run and hide from this,
00:47:00.460 but we're going to take it head on.
00:47:02.000 How do people get smart about this?
00:47:04.480 Well, my piece that shows the border has changed in a major way
00:47:10.440 is available at cis.org, centerforimmigrationstudies.org.
00:47:15.900 It's at the top of the line up there right now.
00:47:20.080 And that will go through, chapter and verse,
00:47:24.520 a whole range of very aggressive Mexican anti-immigration movement moves
00:47:33.600 all over Mexico that the U.S. media has not reported,
00:47:38.480 not one time anywhere.
00:47:40.580 CIS.org, you can follow me on Twitter or whatever,
00:47:43.900 X, Benzman Todd, at Benzman Todd.
00:47:46.340 I'm on Getter, Truth Social,
00:47:49.860 and I would definitely pass this one around to your senators and congressmen
00:47:55.440 who are going to be tricked and fooled into thinking that things are kind of
00:47:59.700 under control at this 5,000.
00:48:01.540 They want to be, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:48:03.560 They want to be tricked and fooled.
00:48:04.960 Let's just say what it is.
00:48:06.280 They want to be tricked and fooled.
00:48:07.620 They all report to the donors.
00:48:09.040 They want to be tricked and fooled.
00:48:10.540 Otherwise, they would stand up here.
00:48:11.880 This thing is quite simple.
00:48:13.040 They're gaming the system right now because the optics are so terrible.
00:48:16.840 Full stop.
00:48:17.740 Those people in Mexico, they're not sending them back to their native countries.
00:48:20.880 They're all going to come across.
00:48:22.260 This is why this deal, they've got the amnesty deal that Langford has.
00:48:25.260 Langford's amnesty deal has 5,000 for seven days in a row before anything happens, right?
00:48:30.060 There's no coincidences here.
00:48:32.940 Todd, we've got to bounce.
00:48:33.980 Where do people go?
00:48:34.720 I want people to get – yeah, go ahead.
00:48:37.020 Just real quickly, one thing to watch for in all these deals
00:48:40.220 is that there's never a mention of physical deportation.
00:48:45.060 What's the plan at 5,001?
00:48:48.380 Never.
00:48:49.000 You will not see that because whatever deal they strike, there will be no enforcement.
00:48:54.220 There will be only loopholes.
00:48:56.040 It's going to be 1986 all over again with the Reagan amnesty where there was never any enforcement.
00:49:03.060 Everybody got the amnesty, but there was never any enforcement.
00:49:05.700 No, they're going to be 8 to 10, as you say, you think 12 to 14 million.
00:49:12.280 Todd, what's your social media?
00:49:13.540 Where do they follow you on the social media?
00:49:15.580 It's Benzman at BenzmanToddX.
00:49:18.360 I'm on Twitter.
00:49:20.340 I mean X and also Getter and Truth Social.
00:49:26.480 Okay, brother.
00:49:27.300 Thanks for this report.
00:49:28.220 We'll make sure everybody reads it.
00:49:29.620 Fabulous work.
00:49:30.960 Take care.
00:49:31.380 Of course, Lankford has not talked to Rosemary Jenks, not talked to Morgan, not talked to Benzman.
00:49:37.640 Why would you want to talk to those people?
00:49:38.920 They know what's going on and can give you real solutions.
00:49:41.420 People in Oklahoma should be ashamed that they got a guy like Lankford in the United States Senate.
00:49:47.460 Ashamed deeply.
00:49:49.980 Let you guys deal with it, but ashamed deeply.
00:49:52.680 Brad, this firefight that's going to go on between now and they're going to come up with every excuse in the world to kick the can down the road.
00:49:58.580 Now is our time to sit there and say, no, we're tired of the nonsense.
00:50:02.360 We're tired of the lies.
00:50:03.160 We're tired of the invasion.
00:50:04.180 We don't care about Ukraine's Russian-speaking border with Putin.
00:50:09.080 We care about the southern border of the United States.
00:50:10.740 That's the vital national security interest.
00:50:13.040 Tell us what you think is going to happen.
00:50:17.000 Yeah, well, what I think is going to happen, unless the war room really kicks in, which people are,
00:50:24.620 and we're seeing results, right there, there has been a shift on Ukraine, for example,
00:50:29.440 after the big lies been exposed, you know, for years and they're losing the war and by, you know, millions have been slaughtered,
00:50:39.220 millions of kids fighting and all the smartest guys in the world, Mearsheimer and everybody.
00:50:45.240 Then the Republicans still have a hard time saying no in public to even that funding.
00:50:51.020 It's just stunning.
00:50:52.720 And so on the border, you just hit the nail on the head.
00:50:55.840 It's intentional, right?
00:50:58.500 The members act like they have a bill out there.
00:51:01.080 They want to be misled.
00:51:03.040 It's an intellectual lie, right?
00:51:05.580 And yesterday, Rosendale was great yesterday, you know, on the cognitive dissonance in the Republican conference.
00:51:13.260 There's huge numbers of people that if you ask them, do you want to shut the border?
00:51:17.780 Yes.
00:51:18.560 Is there an immigration disaster already in our country that has national security implications?
00:51:26.300 Yes.
00:51:27.340 Do you agree that this is existential for our country, not to mention the electoral mischief that's going to come our way
00:51:33.400 and that you may never have a Republican majority again?
00:51:37.140 Yeah, I know that.
00:51:38.100 Will you vote to shut down that border and shut down funding of something that's just awful?
00:51:45.920 Hang on.
00:51:46.600 I got to go.
00:51:47.220 I got a meeting, right?
00:51:48.480 I mean, it's just numbing, right?
00:51:51.820 I mean, and that's really what happens.
00:51:54.980 And the people, but the people are now coming out in full force.
00:51:59.480 They're sick of being lied to on the Ukraine, on the border, on the budget.
00:52:03.680 We're going to fund a $7 trillion budget again, it looks like, unless our guys get some chops.
00:52:10.560 But that whole thing, we're funding a COVID economy again, $7 trillion levels with huge stimulus to bail out the opposing side in the politics.
00:52:22.280 By the way, Dave, can I get you to hang around?
00:52:25.420 They've got another stimulus package.
00:52:26.680 They've got the child tax credit and the cuts to taxes for businessmen.
00:52:32.020 Hey, listen, why would the Republicans agree to another Keynesian stimulus that's going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars that will only help Biden in an election year?
00:52:41.700 Like, even the politics of it.
00:52:43.020 It's ridiculous.
00:52:44.520 And you're doing this for tax cuts?
00:52:45.740 Look, I love tax cuts for small businessmen, but you've got to face reality.
00:52:48.780 We have a structural $2 trillion deficit.
00:52:51.960 When are those going to pay off?
00:52:53.200 Anyway, Brad, if you can hold on, if you can hold on, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:52:58.060 We've got, we're going to go to Davos.
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