Episode 3341: Growing A Spine And Fixing The Border Crisis
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On today's show, CNN's Manu Raju and Jake Manus discuss the ongoing impasse between the Senate and House on immigration reform. They discuss what s happening behind closed doors in Washington, D.C., and why the impasse is so bad.
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over the border in texas and on capitol hill in texas it's a standoff over razor wire u.s border
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patrol wants the razor wire down the government of texas wants to keep it up today as you can see
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that wire is still up despite monday's u.s supreme court ruling allowing the biden administration to
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cut it down on capitol hill frustrations erupted yesterday in a senate republican lunch senators
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came out describing the back and forth as nasty as they were debating best policies to move forward
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with compromise legislation they've been working on with democrats cnn's manu raju's live on capitol
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hill and manu some of the republicans were openly questioning minority leader mitch mcconnell's
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strategy to move forward with the legislation uh was there any resolution to this disagreement
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well actually right now behind closed doors senate republicans are meeting to try to
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figure out whether or not there is any way forward but things have gotten incredibly
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tense divisions over strategy over moving forward with any sort of compromise deal
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on immigration as well as also sharp divisions about ukraine funding remember this is all tied
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together republicans have insisted that if they move forward any new aid to ukraine which is calling
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for aid immediately that there must be a deal on the border something to their satisfaction but there
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is no agreement on either leaving deep divisions within the ranks some demanding that the trio of senators
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trying to cut a deal on immigration release more information about those talks and others openly
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questioning the senate republican leader and his handling of all of this
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i don't know anything about what they're doing i mean i uh one of the gentlemen under the
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interstate living in a refrigerator box knows more about it than i do what do you think of his
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handling of the ukraine and immigration talks no economy disastrous clearly total i mean just look
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it's a total shambles it's a total disaster this bill represents senate republican leadership waging war
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on house republican leadership biden has failed we are here we've been elected we have election
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certificates when you have an opportunity to make this country safer you take it and you don't play
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politics and that last comment from senator tom tillis who's very much in favor of these bipartisan talks but
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the republicans are facing pressure from their likely republican nominee donald trump who has come out
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in opposition to any sort of bipartisan deal on immigration that is not a quote perfect deal or is not
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quote everything that they want that they want he said that they should they should reject it if it is not
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to the exactly to their liking and that does have influence within the ranks particularly among
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on the fence republicans some of whom say let's just wait until the new year some of them said
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are privately saying let's not give joe biden a campaign win on a central issue involving immigration
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that is dominating and animating voters along the campaign trail all of which is making things much
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more difficult particularly among republicans to decide whether it's right the right time to cut a deal
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or whether they should punt on this issue until next congress jake manu um if the senate reaches some
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sort of deal the big question is not if house republicans will scramble to support it they won't
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but whether or not speaker johnson will even allow a vote on the legislation um what's your take as of
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now yeah it's really unclear jake because johnson has not been involved in these negotiations he has
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been briefed on them but he is not a central player as he's told you he's told me and he's told others
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he's essentially throwing cold water on these talks uncertain about whether he'll embrace it in large part
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not just because of donald trump's opposition but because there are many republicans in his
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conference who either don't support aid to ukraine or simply do not believe that there should be any
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sort of compromise deal which is raising a lot of concerns among senate republicans who say why vote
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on anything now it has no chance in the republican-led house and if the republican-led house changes the
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bill dramatically then that could upset the balance with the white house or democrats in the senate which
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just shows you how difficult it is to get anything done in an election year particularly when it comes
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to immigration yeah although to be honest republicans had the white house in the house in the senate they
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didn't do anything about it then either uh mani rajy thanks so much said that i mean this do you think
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she has or wants a political future does it make sense for her to go to her home state when the odds
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are and the polls would suggest it's so unlikely she's going to do anything but get shellacked in the state
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where she made her name and reputation as the youngest governor ever yeah i think she put herself
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in a terrible position when she said that she would support donald trump even if he was convicted
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of a felony i think she lost any kind of credibility in this race um you know this in a way is a lot about
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28 not anything else but nikki haley's not going to win a 28 race as the person who lost her home state
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against donald trump so you know i i think it probably feels good for them to start out with
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eight nine people in the race and she's the only one standing but what does that really get her
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i don't see that it gets her much i think the smarter move in a political sense is what ron
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de santis did um nikki haley wants the clock to go back to what the republican party used to be
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but the republican party that used to be wouldn't have nominated or elected donald trump
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so it's a fantasy and there's so many donors who are responding to that oh if only we could turn
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the clock back and nikki haley would be this person who can get up there and she knows which fork to
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pick up and she's not going to embarrass us and she doesn't go out in public and talk about dating her
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daughter like donald trump but that party's not there and uh trump owns this party in every sense of
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the word he's winning because he's giving republican voters most of what they want and that's just an
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impossible situation for nikki haley this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our
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enemies because we're going to medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks
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lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know
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you try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen
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and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
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is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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it's wednesday 24 january year of our lord 2024 momentarily we're going to go down uh to texas uh
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ken paxton there to talk about abbott's uh shot across the bow of biden this afternoon it's getting
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hot down texas i think the supreme court decision yesterday just do gasoline on this
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i want to go first though to nancy mace congressman from south carolina first before we get to the
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politics all this let's go to the immigration part of it congressman mace you saw the results out of
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new hampshire at the exit polls even in new hampshire immigration is number one issue with
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the economy and the inflation uh what are you hearing from your constituents particularly about
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the senate bill where they're having fistfights now over in the luncheon room you know the very
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staid senate they're screaming at each other because nobody's been cutting on the deal yet about what's
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actually been yeah so so tell us tell us give us respect the house yeah well the economy and
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inflation's all well it's a sham because they want to go from 10 000 a day at the southern border
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you know give amnesty to five thousand dollars five thousand people a day illegal aliens a day that's
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what republicans are trying to do in the senate and that is a non-starter in the house this will be
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the number one issue this year you're even seeing democrats in new york and chicago rebuke joe biden
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with uh his policies of a wide open border and every town has become a border town even in south
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carolina we're seeing our police arrest ms 13 gang members we're seeing human trafficking sex trafficking
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overdoses of fentanyl daily this is all across the country and it's affecting everybody and it's
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affecting our economy it's gonna it's gonna strain the health care system or education system
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these people are coming here illegally they want a free ride and democrats want to give them the right
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to vote on top of everything else and it is a non-starter for the vast majority of americans
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has has this topic this invasion of the southern border has this united because you're in a purple
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district has this united the people in your district and say congressman mace we want you to find a
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solution to this but stop this is madness right this is an issue that republicans democrats independents
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all agree on it has to end and that's why you're seeing the their pushback in in big sanctuary cities
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that you know wanted to welcome these people years ago now that they have them they want them out of
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their towns and their cities which i find hysterical because they're the ones that started this mess
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biden created this crisis he's perpetuating the crisis and it's up to us to grow a spine and fix this crisis
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congressman if if it's uniting your district behind you and you're pretty hardcore in this
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how is it riddle me this how is it a republican senate is actually negotiating this bill right now
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ma'am with the terms you just laid out well it's insane to me we had a chance in the house just last
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week with the cr the continuing resolution we had conservatives that were willing to temporarily do a cr
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if they attached hr2 this is where we should draw a line in the sand a giant red line on the border on the
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wall on immigration um this is where we can win resoundingly and it's members of our own party
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that killed any sort of deal that would have allowed us to attach hr2 to a spending measure
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and so members of our own party um are are the ones that are killing any sort of opportunity to fix the
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border issue this congress it's insane what i've seen happening behind closed doors
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look you're in a purple district you've got to fight to get independent votes right or even democrats
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that that that lean maga explain to me the mentality of the people in the house that won't attach
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uh closing the border either shut the close the border shut the government that won't attach that
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what is their mentality when you come from one of the toughest districts to win yeah no it's that old sort
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of bushy republican establishment republican sort of uh thing that's that's doa these days i mean our
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party is changing our party is different our party's leader wants to see change donald trump
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was really strong on the border you saw on biden's first day in office by the time the sun set he had
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he had rebuked everything that donald trump good donald trump had done at the border just killed it
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all and we're seeing what happened in three years we've lived under three years of biden and it's not
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good and we have a real opportunity to win over independent voters left of center right of center
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voters who maybe traditionally have not been with us the last few years on the border issue and if
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republicans could stop spending we also could win them over on inflation in the economy
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uh you mentioned one of the big problems is with the border invasion is the trafficking uh human
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trafficking sex trafficking uh talk to me because the the whole issue of hunter biden i remember you
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sat here in the war room a couple of times said hey look i went over to the treasury i saw the files
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of the wire transfers the the what you would refer to as a sex trafficking file is the thickest files
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where are we in the prostitution situation because it seems like it's it seems like it's on the it
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seems like it's on the back burner right now are we still making progress on holding hunter biden
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accountable for his crimes we are he is finally going to come in and go through a deposition with
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the oversight committee we will ask him have the opportunity to ask him if he shows up this time
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to ask him hundreds of questions four to five hundred questions i expect will be asked of hunter biden
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when we go through the deposition i will be there along with my colleagues on the oversight committee
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we have to continue this and he had the he had the nerve to show up to oversight a few weeks ago with
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a movie crew from netflix steve if this were you know this were you or anybody else you would have
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been arrested on the spot hauled off and thrown in jail because they're you know his last name is
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biden if his last name were trump you know he he would have been thrown in jail immediately but
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because he's a biden he gets to walk free it's crazy to me the double standard the injustice
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and that's what americans are seeing every single day
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i want to go back to that because it wasn't just the media you really got into with your
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democratic colleagues talk to me how yeah easy is this going to be when these guys every every time
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you mention i mean i thought you and the democrats were going to come to fisticuffs because every time
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you try to speak they try to cut you off oh they did i was i was so angry that morning i was so that
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morning was so disrespectful the way you know they're supposed to be the party of women right and the
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see the way that they were interrupting a woman because i was conservative because they didn't
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want to hear the truth that i had to speak and i railed on hunter biden i was the only republican
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who had the opportunity to confront him because he fled the room shortly thereafter he didn't want
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to hear what we had to say and we had nothing but facts and truth on our side and all democrats
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want to do as soon as hunter biden is the topic they just want to scream donald trump and people
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don't want to hear that people understand that the biden family is corrupt he's joe biden's going to go
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down as one of the most corrupt presidents in u.s history and the oversight committee and under
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jim jordan on judiciary we are proving that out week after week um do you believe this is going
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to rapidly move forward to some sort of impeachment uh motion i hope so i believe what we're seeing now
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and the evidence we're seeing will lead to an impeachment we want to make sure we do better than
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nancy pelosi that we have due process that we have all the evidence we need we don't want to be
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accused of manufacturing something for an impeachment and i hope that we get there
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sooner rather than later i believe the evidence is piling up congressman can you just hang for a few
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minutes we got a short commercial break i know you got to bounce but i just have one or two more
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questions particularly Kevin McCarthy causing some problems down there in your district we're gonna take
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okay congressman mason's gonna hold with us hold with us for a second uh we're gonna juggle some
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balls here attorney general paxton joins us uh governor abbott today sent one of the toughest hardest
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letters i've ever seen to uh joe biden uh and i i've just and then we're gonna put up on the
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screen uh general paxton help me out here it did this letter is abbott saying hey i hear what the
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supreme court are saying but they don't quite get it i've got the authority to do this as the governor
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of the state according to the constitution and i'm going to continue to do it uh and i don't care
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what joe biden does is that the essence of this letter sir you know what i i think i read it the same
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way you do it's it's it's definitely a very strident stringent letter that i think says hey
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we're the state i'm the governor we have a right to protect our citizens if the supreme court says
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they can cut down our wire we're still going to do everything possible to defend our state even if
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the federal government with the biden administration is in basically participating with cartels and
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illegally breaking all of our federal laws as it relates to immigration
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so what is the practical i mean you guys have taken the state park you've put up wire you said
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we're not going to take it down and more importantly we're not going to let federal officials in here
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as of tonight on the afternoon late in the afternoon the 24th what what does this mean
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it means they're not going to be able to get onto that property and cut the wire down so you know
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good luck uh doing that we're not letting them on uh i think the governor is going to just stop them
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from coming on there and we also have another law going into effect very soon which relates to
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deporting illegals this will start happening in march and we'll start sending people out
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so we're we're on the we're on the offense despite the fact that the biden administration continues if
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you look at the numbers in december the leaked numbers are the worst that we've ever seen
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and i even the biden administration now is trying to hide the actual numbers as he goes into re-election
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he's realizing the things that he's done to hurt the country are actually starting to affect his
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re-election what do you mean what do you mean hide the numbers they're numbers that we're not
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seeing publicly that are worse than the public numbers are horrible horrific yesterday i didn't see
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the numbers uh for december on illegal immigration the number of uh people that they've they brought
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into the country i think the numbers that i heard leaked were the largest numbers that i think
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i've seen since the biden administration started working with the cartels to get people here
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yep when you say working with the cartels that's a pretty tough charge i mean you're you are the
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attorney general of the state of texas one of the not just biggest but most important states in the
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union economic powerhouse you did you just accuse the biden administration of working with the cartels
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there may not be a written document that says that but in fact yes that's exactly what they're doing
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they have turned our border into a place where the cartels know that they can basically drop people off
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and they're not trying to hide anymore i mean under all other administrations they used to hide you
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know they try to sneak across where now it comes straight to border patrol and we're like a processing
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arm for the cartels the cartels get paid per person by and they make a lot of money on each person
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and so the biden administration is effectively no matter how you want to slice this they are partnering
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with the cartel to get people into our country as fast as possible and the cartels have ramped it up
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because they make more money the more people they bring across and that's why the numbers keep
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getting larger because they know they've got a limited amount of time before joe biden's out of
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office and they're trying to the cartels are trying to partner as fast as they can with the federal
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government and getting people across the border that's a fact didn't you look you're the lawyer
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i'm not and you go up to the supreme court all the time didn't the supreme court just kind of rule even
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on a temporary basis that hey i hear you can i hear you governor abbott but we're coming down the
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federal government side of this they can cut the wire and go in the park is that not what they ruled
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no they ruled that the federal government had the right to cut our fences down and our wire
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they didn't tell us we had to go help them we're not going to help them we're still not going to
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help them i don't care if the supreme court orders us to help them we're not going to we do not have to
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help them they have to do this on their own that they've been given license to help the cartels by
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the supreme court at a five four vote very you know obviously a one vote margin but that does not
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mean that we are going to aid and abet the biden administration in aiding and abetting the cartels
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that is not happening you alluded to this with that but in the first paragraph of this letter
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does governor abbott accuse biden of basically criminal activity by not enforcing the law and
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allowing an invasion of texas in the united states of america i mean effectively that's what it looks like
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to me i mean i haven't asked him specifically about that paragraph but that to me seems like he is
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accusing him of not doing his constitutional job of enforcing federal law and not only that
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helping the cartels commit crimes by opening the border up to criminal activity including the killing
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of our children through fentanyl i don't know how you could be worse as a president than what biden's doing
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just with that issue alone do the folks in texas you believe have your back on this the citizens
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of the republic you're standing up to the federal government and you're standing up to the president
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of the united states and you're standing up essentially to the supreme court of the united states
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do you feel your constituents have your back on this
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i have never had anybody in my state say that they didn't even democrats are not speaking against it many
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of them are converting especially along the border towns people that are being affected by this every
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day by the negative consequences of higher crime and i think this is affecting biden's chances across
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the country i think it's not just texas now because we can't fit everybody into the republican states
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they're bleeding over into democratic states and i think the nation as a whole is going to be feeling
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this effect for decades uh attorney general paxton where do people get to on social media what's your
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website ken paxton.com and then at ken paxton tx
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thank you very much for taking time away today i know you're very busy thank you sir
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congressman mace last night new hampshire told us that their number one issue
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is the border and immigration you now have an individual who i would say is not a fire breather
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in governor abbott of texas throwing down as hard as i've ever seen before
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what don't the house republicans that have all the leverage of forcing biden to the table
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by stopping the crs what don't 108 voted with you 107 voted against it what don't those 107 get
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we're in a different era right now this is a crisis and it's urgent what don't they get
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well they we need to call their bluff they don't understand what's really truly happening and i don't
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know it's if it's because they want to have deals with democrats or if they just need to grow a
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backbone but this is an issue where we can unify our party and unify our nation and take our country
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back and ken paxton is right when he tells you that the cartels make more money by smuggling people
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across the border they absolutely do and joe biden has given them a free pass um that's what's actually
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going on and the letter that abbott wrote i mean gosh this is this is a newsflash the biden
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administration from rural america they are not having this anymore and democrat cities god i hope
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that abbott sends every single illegal alien and god bless him for doing this to every single democrat
00:24:00.480
sanctuary city in this country so they can feel the pain that every single border town along texas
00:24:06.820
southern border is feeling right now this is insanity there's no other country in the world
00:24:12.180
that would allow this except for a progressive like joe biden would have never happened under
00:24:16.800
donald trump and never did joe manchin mentioned yesterday if biden if this thing can't get out of
00:24:23.040
the senate to the house and can't get passed he's recommending emergency measures i mean biden's got
00:24:27.840
to call a national emergency at the border congressman mace uh kevin mccarthy's taking it very personally
00:24:33.980
with you about your heroic principled stand a couple of months ago can you get us up to date on what's
00:24:39.600
happening down in your district yeah the former speaker has uh mean girl vibes right now he has
00:24:45.060
recruited a candidate to run against me they are threatening to pour millions upon millions of
00:24:49.880
dollars in a republican primary against me they recruited a jeb bush alcohol acolyte you'll love
00:24:55.920
that steve um you know that that era is behind us the american people south carolinians they want to
00:25:02.940
see change in this country they want to see someone who's going to fight for them and i'm that woman i'm
00:25:08.280
going to need all the help i can get steve and i'm asking your viewers to support me at nancymace.org
00:25:13.840
follow me on social media as soon as this campaign starts they're going to be coming after me with
00:25:18.840
everything they got um you know the swamp that was in my office that i fired they're all leaking stories
00:25:25.100
most of it's not true of course uh just to smear me so they can take me down death by 10 000 cuts and
00:25:32.280
it's not going to happen because i fight back but i need to help with everyone in this country
00:25:38.060
to put eyes on nancymace on this on this on the website nancymace.org and help us get through what's
00:25:44.240
going to be a bloodbath in south carolina well stewart stevens that's where we put him in the
00:25:50.840
cold open that talking about nikki haley we'll get to that with you later some other time but
00:25:55.260
how that party of the bushes is gone stewart stevens said that's gone it's trump's party it's a
00:26:00.560
populist nationalist party what say you what say you about that ma'am no that's absolutely right
00:26:06.360
and here we are we've got endless wars and one of the reasons that trump is more popular today than
00:26:10.880
he's ever been is because joe biden is has created these endless wars overseas it never would have
00:26:16.680
happened under donald trump that era is so far behind us and so you know to have a primary against
00:26:22.700
an establishment and i'm everything that washington hates bring it on
00:26:26.960
congressman mace one more time what's your social media handle
00:26:31.860
it's at nancymace and then the website nancymace.org we need every dollar we can get and we're going to
00:26:39.800
use it to fight back against dc the establishment the powerful elite who are coming after us
00:26:44.960
a bloodbath down in south carolina congressman thank you so much for joining us and thank you for your
00:26:51.260
your clarity on the border situation thank you man wow today i'm telling you on fire the border is
00:27:00.960
it's only getting more intense more urgent with the taking every taking the clock this um because
00:27:09.200
remember the house is supposed to be more the fire breathers the framers set it up like that every
00:27:13.740
two years you're always kind of be had to be close to your constituents the senate's very different it's
00:27:18.780
like the house of lords they're almost coming to fisticuffs over in the house republican or the
00:27:25.380
senate republican lunches because they're sitting there going these are mike lee and rampart these
00:27:30.420
are serious people they're going hey we have no idea what the deals you're talking about you haven't
00:27:34.500
shown us any text we're u.s senators you think you're gonna drop this thing on us
00:27:38.200
lankford's the only one that's what lankford's the judith's goat here he was selected to cut the deal
00:27:44.340
but he's the only one that knows what the text is this is a mcconnell uniparty special we'll go at
00:27:51.620
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you know all day you saw where um and i don't know if you actually saw the different coverage last night
00:29:52.320
but msnbc and cnn were much more and you gotta think msnbc for a second were much more even-handed
00:30:00.760
and i'm not saying pro-trump but they were very much this is trump's nikki haley didn't have a lot of
00:30:09.780
support from people actually going to vote for republicans in november they were doing a very
00:30:14.940
uh and karnacki who does the the numbers over there was very straightforward
00:30:19.320
and a lot of people there were saying yes this this is the guy biden wants to run against and so
00:30:25.880
the general election's on murdoch news was the exact opposite i mean this was a cheering section
00:30:31.840
for nikki haley now some polling i've seen has got nikki haley down i don't know 25 30 or points or
00:30:38.400
beyond nancy mace just um when she came on we had a chance to catch up and she was saying that it's
00:30:46.800
going to be a blowout in south carolina but nikki haley's going to go on this fundraiser tour
00:30:53.280
until she's told by the murdochs and the donors to back off one of the things they're fighting for
00:30:59.000
is to uh make sure they get into the second to the maga movement into the trump administration
00:31:05.620
either with her sec def or maybe vp if that doesn't happen at least to get their people in there
00:31:12.100
you this is all of a piece while this is going on and people in new hampshire the folks up in new
00:31:19.660
hampshire and new hampshire's not you've got a lot of fabulous people up there and i think a third of
00:31:25.140
the to 40 percent of the republicans voting where maga identified as maga but you have to remember
00:31:33.640
it's really to a large extent the southern part of it is kind of a greater expanded suburb
00:31:38.260
of boston it's like the new york city area going into connecticut or new jersey the southern part of
00:31:45.120
that where most of the votes are is really just a bedroom community for boston and still a third to
00:31:52.420
40 percent maga and and they're immigration is number one people look everywhere in their lived
00:32:04.080
experience and see how that's impacted and affected their communities this is why african-american men
00:32:11.880
and hispanic citizens males are starting to come to trump more than ever they get what's happening here
00:32:18.860
this this on on um on this issue of the board and this is why i keep telling we're you know whether
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is it can be quite confusing or disheartening or you can get discombobulated but not if you
00:33:00.700
think through and say hey i'm going to be a still point in a turning world which is what maga is and what
00:33:06.940
trump is and they say trump's the agent of chaos hey give me 2017 2018 2019 give me those three years
00:33:14.140
of chaos and anarchy we'll take them right now peace and prosperity until the chinese communist party
00:33:20.580
tried to take him out hit it with a bio weapon which we said from day one a bio weapon not coming
00:33:27.440
from some bat cave and i've always thought it was an inadvertent leak that they exacerbated but i could
00:33:33.760
be easily convinced that it was purposely let go because it clearly got created but trump's the still
00:33:41.060
point in the turning world he's peace and prosperity and this thing is getting more intense you've had
00:33:49.100
a a governor of one of the most powerful states in the union send a letter to biden accusing it
00:33:55.960
essentially lays out the case for i should be impeached on this forget the chinese communist party forget
00:34:00.920
the money just impeached on this you had the attorney general of one of the most powerful states in the
00:34:05.960
union just accused biden of being a partner with the cartels this intensity is getting up nancy may
00:34:14.100
she just laid it out for it's the number one issue it's it's they're brawling there in in the house
00:34:18.920
and she's putting guys on notice and saying hey you 107 didn't do it you're going to get another chance
00:34:22.920
in march and we're going to get your minds right and over in the senate they're essentially having
00:34:28.140
almost fistfights over there because they're being cut out of a deal that they know can end
00:34:33.100
in their career and they're saying yo why are we bringing something to a vote that the house
00:34:38.360
that johnson's saying they're going to bring up what are we doing here
00:34:40.900
and they're guys sitting there going you're going to give me a career ending vote on what's just going
00:34:46.780
to be a messaging bill i don't think i'm gonna do that because somebody's going to primary me one
00:34:51.880
of these maggot guys is going to hold is going to hold that up forever my point the intensity on this
00:34:58.240
is only increasing because the globalists are bound and determined particularly they know the
00:35:04.800
return of trump and they know the return of maga they're going to try to get it all done and jam it
00:35:09.440
in now or and then or make it so that trump can't unwind it this is why i keep saying we're adding a
00:35:16.020
trillion dollars about every hundred days we're adding thousands and thousands and tens of ten ten
00:35:21.960
thousands of combat division every every day so that trump the deportation itself is mind-boggling
00:35:28.040
the getting control of the of the of the debt is mind-boggling and oh in the first month of
00:35:34.440
trump's second term all the tax cuts all of them i think some of them are permanent actually some
00:35:40.840
but most of them start to revert back start to revert back you got to deal with that
00:35:47.900
the first hundred days of trump's second term be like fdr this thing will be such a disaster
00:35:54.660
we're adding one trillion dollars a face amount of debt every basically 100 days that's that's the
00:36:03.360
schedule on right now don't let him lie to you i told you this boom we hit the 34 we're going to hit
00:36:08.420
the 35 you're going to hit the 36 and they're over fiddling why rome burns i had a very sophisticated
00:36:15.020
guy came by here today one of the most sophisticated guys on wall street came by the war room he just
00:36:20.500
been up on capitol hill briefing people he said look these people are good people but they don't
00:36:24.680
understand what's going they're asking him hey when's it going to be a crisis and he goes hey yo it's a
00:36:29.920
crisis right now because the refinancing of this mess is what's causing interest rates to be where they
00:36:36.420
are and and janet yellen is doing a high risk strategy they're not they're not financing anything long
00:36:42.080
no 10 years and no 30s they're doing everything short term bills and notes short term and paying
00:36:49.260
for that at higher interest rates that all gets down into the lived experience of the american people
00:36:55.580
as you see in your credit cards the home loans daughter loans all that and it ain't going to get
00:36:59.900
better because the spending's not being cut and they're up there in the supplemental talking about
00:37:04.600
another 100 billion dollars another 100 billion dollars for for to be flushed into ukraine
00:37:11.000
60 billion i think 70 80 billion over there with no end in sight no war powers act no strategy
00:37:18.100
leahy you're one of the smartest guys i know not just because you went to harvard college and
00:37:25.160
stanford business school but that's not a bad that's not too bad union cards tell me your thoughts on this
00:37:30.580
abbott because hey you just don't get governors send a thing back to the president of the united
00:37:34.940
states say hey look i heard you and i i've seen your actions oh yeah i heard the supreme court sent me
00:37:39.760
something but guess what i'm the governor of texas this is what the constitution says this is invasion
00:37:45.200
so we're going to stand our ground patrick michael patrick leahey
00:37:49.700
uh steve governor abbott's letter to joe biden about this invasion on the border
00:37:57.580
uh sounds to me very much like something that your favorite president one of your favorite
00:38:03.200
presidents once said when the supreme court made a decision uh that andrew jackson didn't like he
00:38:10.620
said the supreme court has made its decision now let them enforce it uh now abon didn't quite go that
00:38:18.680
far 100 percent no he did no he actually that's essentially what he said in that letter was jackson's
00:38:26.320
hey i'm glad you ruled now go enforce it well i think you know there are a lot of clever attorneys
00:38:34.160
working with attorney general paxton in texas and also with governor abbott um i think there are a
00:38:41.600
number of things that they could do uh that uh would impede that particular ruling the very bad 5-4
00:38:49.360
ruling that said you know the feds can come in and cut down those wires on the border
00:38:53.320
i mean they said sure you come and cut them they can constrain the amount of time that they get to
00:38:59.440
cut them and then they can put them right back up and they can add more i they're they're they're
00:39:03.780
working on a philosophy like that right now i think and i think look what a pleasure it is
00:39:10.120
steve by the way to listen to you explain on war room every day what's really happening in the
00:39:18.100
country i heard your your epic rant this morning you nailed it uh that it's basically the globalists
00:39:25.860
and fox news uh that uh right now uh and the billionaires that are trying to jam down nikki
00:39:34.340
ailey into the uh the the next trump administration we have huge problems ahead of us three big periods
00:39:42.120
of time number one trump has to get elected in early november number two we got to go through
00:39:47.860
the next couple of months there and get him inaugurated on january 20th 2025 and then number
00:39:53.360
three that first hundred days of the first year where they're going to keep pulling out we have
00:39:58.160
three major battles ahead of us in this war and we are right in the middle of it and you by the way
00:40:04.000
are spot on uh i want to talk about when you talk about um uh you know the senate and what's happening
00:40:13.160
in the senate and keeping people thwarted and not wanting them to win you've actually gotten some news
00:40:18.980
and broken a pretty big story over on the situation in arizona with jeff de witt and cary lake uh tell me
00:40:24.740
what because jeff de witt's just a messenger he admits that jeff de witt didn't have the money
00:40:29.380
jeff de witt didn't come up with the idea jeff de witt is just a messenger so there's got to be
00:40:34.700
somebody that sends the messenger the person that sends the messenger has the money
00:40:38.900
jeff go ahead jeff de witt has resigned and i think cary lake is going to have 8 p.m eastern
00:40:44.940
a rumble press conference uh to talk about the latest developments but sources have told us
00:40:51.500
that the message came from the national republican uh senatorial committee which is as you know
00:40:58.540
controlled by mitch mcconnell and senator steve danes of montana uh is the senator in charge of
00:41:07.080
that we yesterday when we got this information which we believe to be credible from a credible
00:41:13.000
source but we you know we sent uh requests our great reporter in arizona the arizona sun times
00:41:19.380
rachel alexander sent a request to both steve danes and the political director at the nrsc to if they
00:41:26.120
would confirm or deny that the message originated from them in march of of 2023 in other words hey
00:41:32.400
kerry don't run for the senate we'll we'll give you some money or a big job neither of those people
00:41:39.520
responded to us but uh danes just a couple hours ago talked to an nbc reporter and issued it's right
00:41:49.300
at arizona sun times dot com and issued uh basically what you would call a non-denial denial
00:41:56.160
he didn't address the issue of whether they originated the message what he said was i just
00:42:01.700
heard that report and uh gee i didn't know anything about that report we're talking about the report of
00:42:06.580
the of the leaked audio in which the message was delivered um so we're good and he's not responded
00:42:13.700
to us steve you and i've been doing this long enough to know that if there's a major figure that
00:42:20.280
you ask a question and they don't respond to you in 24 hours there's a reason and my suspicion is
00:42:27.540
that our source is probably correct hang on for one second uh for those of you keeping score at home
00:42:35.460
michael patrick lahey just dropped a bomb okay because he said hey uh reliable sources are telling us
00:42:42.960
it came from the nrsc which would make perfect sense if you listen to dewitt they're trying to
00:42:48.840
get her trying to get her out of the senate race because they were freaked out at the time given her
00:42:53.620
her gubernatorial run uh that she was not their kind of person and uh she was not a globalist she was
00:43:01.100
not part of the bush faction she didn't you know she went to war with the mccains the nrsc would be the
00:43:06.720
natural home and mitch mccano as we know started for at least the first year or the first year and a
00:43:12.540
half two years hating even the mention of carrie lake's name lahey hang around for a second when
00:43:18.000
i want to keep you over um jace matter by the way the the war with the chinese cameras party's going
00:43:23.820
to heat up you know why they're going through a financial collapse in china right now nothing they
00:43:28.560
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the reason i bring up jace medical is uh and i'll hopefully get into more of this tomorrow morning
00:45:52.820
the chinese economy is imploding right now all that ponzi scheme and the real estate all over the chinese
00:45:58.800
stock market's collapsing the bond market the ccp is figuring out everything they do to kind of infuse
00:46:04.600
liquidity into the system to keep it afloat heard that before seen that action before maybe by the federal
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reserve that's why it's now uh very concerning about taiwan just voted for independence and of
00:46:17.700
course the ccp saying that's not going to happen it may be a time for wag the dog that's we be very
00:46:23.080
careful eric prince told us this frank gaffney told us this they think the next couple hundred days
00:46:28.140
through the spring is a very dangerous time there they will use in unrestricted warfare the ccp will use
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see if it works for you i think you'll find it fascinating michael patrick lay i just want to go
00:46:56.360
back through this because this is a bombshell the nrsc is mitch mcconnell's a way he keeps maga candidates
00:47:02.500
out and they hated cary lake for the longest time it would be logical that they would be to get in
00:47:09.180
touch with dewitt and say hey pass the word on and see if we get a bite uh what danes put out
00:47:15.660
is a non-denial denial classic and he went to nbc he didn't go to gateway pundit he didn't go to
00:47:22.580
tennessee star didn't go to star news network he didn't go to any of the conservatives didn't go to
00:47:26.260
revolver or breitbart he went to nbc somebody that would treat him gently given this information
00:47:32.920
your thoughts about this and how how big a story is this right now on on the on everything we got
00:47:39.560
going on which is just insane i've never seen a news cycle like this how big a story is this
00:47:43.860
well i agree with what you said earlier this morning it's the second biggest story in the
00:47:49.600
world right now i mean it was the the story broke at the daily mail last night like yesterday afternoon
00:47:56.140
and it's all over the place right now and it uh jeff dewitt has resigned um that happened this
00:48:02.940
morning carrie lake's going to do a conference uh a press conference on rumble in just a few hours
00:48:08.360
and it will continue to go forward but i think the key the key point here is this who are the people
00:48:15.240
back east that were wanted this message delivered to carrie lake in march of 2023 this was before she
00:48:23.420
had announced long before she'd announced to run for the senate um and it seems pretty clear to me
00:48:29.680
by the conduct of steve danes the senator from montana who heads up the nrsc and and all of his
00:48:37.300
staff we asked him to confirm or deny and his staff whether or not they originated that message
00:48:45.600
delivered by jeff dewitt to carrie lake in march of 2023 hey get out and we'll pay a lot of money
00:48:53.260
in essence right um they have not responded to us in over 24 hours since we first asked that
00:49:00.340
question now think about that we are a legitimate respected conservative media outlet and they want
00:49:07.760
not talking to us but they chose to talk to an nbc reporter who actually framed the story in a certain
00:49:16.880
way uh to to take the non-denial denial that dane said well this is the first i've heard of that
00:49:23.240
report of the audio and frame it as a denial which it is not so we're going to keep talking to asking
00:49:31.520
steve danes to comment and the staff at the nrsc but uh my money would be on the nrsc as the folks
00:49:40.220
back east that asked jeff to deliver that message to carrie remember our candidates have what i call
00:49:49.160
the right stuff they have the charisma trump carrie lake you can see this is something you can't train
00:49:54.560
you know ron the robot didn't have it the old bush guys don't have it that's why they hate trump and
00:49:59.140
that's one of the reasons i hate carrie lake we got to bounce mike your stuff's amazing where do people
00:50:03.320
go to get your radio show uh where they go to get your writings all the star news networks some of the
00:50:08.160
best stuff out there on 7 60 a.m here in nashville 11 a.m to 1 p.m i have a great lead up stephen k
00:50:14.780
bannon's war room and then uh the star news network our flagship is the tennessee star and then the
00:50:21.000
arizona sun times rachel alexander our great reporter there broke a lot of this and you can reach me on all
00:50:27.120
social media at michael p lahey michael p lahey another irishman like stephen k bannon another dumb mick
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in your case you're not you're pretty smart michael patrick lahey thank you brother appreciate
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it great and rachel alexander is the best i love her thank you steve great great talking with you
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keep up the great work america is listening to you steve always thank you well thank you sir i appreciate
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that do a lot through your help um lindell do you got is is is it on the bookshelf you're meeting with
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us suzanne scott over over at murdoch news do you have that scheduled yet or is war room posse
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gonna have more access to to more access see i got no downside here i i went either way
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do we have more access to the special deals brother absolutely and steve you know when i speak
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in monday in las vegas i don't think jeff de witt or suzanne scott will be in that front row
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um they um they uh because we're speaking to the 168 there and uh so that'll be interesting but
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shipping mike lindell honored to have you on here look forward to being with you in vegas uh lindell's
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going to be riding shotgun with us we're going to do the show live there four hours monday four
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hours tuesday thank you brother short commercial break we're going to return uh we're going to go
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to the lindell tv network of course and get her and rumble we're going to stay grace and mo are going to
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uh stream the carry lake rumble interview at 8 p.m eastern standard time tonight i hopefully will be in
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the chat got a couple of memes but i think we'll get them done before then short break back in a
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moment second hour of the war room i want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our
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money in our bank accounts first think back to 9-11 shortly after the government pushed through the
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patriot act this gave the government power to spy on innocent americans by monitoring our phone and
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financial newsletter strategic intelligence and new york times best-selling author is warning about
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a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level in fact
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some of the guests i've had on the war room believe that the government will soon expand their powers
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to track our every move if we say the wrong things on social media donate to the wrong causes buy
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firearms or even vote maga the government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts
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i can't say for sure if this will happen but it's an interesting and dire warning fortunately jim
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