Episode 3375： Victory In The Senate
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The Senate fails to pass a bill that would have funded the bulk of the government through September 2019, and now the focus turns to securing the border with Mexico and securing the $60 billion in aid to Ukraine. The border bill was defeated on a vote of 58-41, and a second vote failed to get past the 60 votes needed for passage.
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Okay, right there. Welcome to the afternoon edition. It's Wednesday, 7th February of
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earlier, 2024. You're watching the Senate floor. It's kind of confusing what's going
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on right now, but I'll give you the best information we have. Earlier today, we're
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going to do a cold open here in a minute. We had a historic win. We defeated the entire
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package, both the invasion authorization bill coupled with the bailout, $60 billion bailout
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of Ukraine as a combined package, went down to defeat. They needed 60 votes. They only
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got 48. We got 50, including Chuck Schumer voted against it. He did that technically so they
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could bring it back just with the foreign aid package alone. So that was earlier today.
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You should know that Mitch McConnell voted against it. In fact, Mitch McConnell very
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dramatically came in as the 41st vote, which is technically what kills it. Because once
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you get 41, obviously you can't get to 60. It's over. That was quite dramatic early in
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the day. Massive, massive win for this audience. You guys have delivered again another win in
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just the last couple of days. Defeated that entire bill. Now here's what's going on. They
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then went to have a, basically to put to the floor, whether they just do the foreign age
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package, the national security package of Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan, totally clean, no offsets,
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nothing on the border. Steve Daines, in fact, had a, they had meetings beforehand and Daines,
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who's the head of the NRSC, said, look, you would be giving the Democrats a huge win here
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if you foisted upon the people I'm trying to get to run for the Senate, the fact that you passed the
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Ukraine funding bill and had nothing to do with the border security. We are, we are bound by honor
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and by national security to take care of this, of the board, of the border, to have the border shut
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down before we prove anything for Ukraine. We've made that commitment. So here's what they're doing
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right now in the Senate. Schumer has put forward just a clean authorization package for those.
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You got to get to 60 so that you can begin the process of debate and amendments and all that.
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The first time they did it, and this is George Kaplan from C-SPAN, who is the reporter there,
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he tweeted out the first vote went 58, 40, 58, 41. So they didn't get there. And that's all the
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senators that are still around, right? I think there's one senator missing, maybe Loomis, one senator
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missing. So they have failed on their attempt, at least right now, to even get the foreign aid package
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to a bigger debate and amendments and all that. Now, what I hear they're negotiating, but it's still
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open. So it hadn't been closed. And there's some technical reasons they could have a revote.
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Here's what you should, I think, know. And I think this is basically correct. If you remember
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today, I talked about the CR, that that's really the next event that's coming, the real event,
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the extension of the CR on March 1st, and that what Johnson should be doing now, because you're not
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going to be able to shut the government down, but you're not going to be attached all of HR2. It's too
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big. It's too overwhelming. What you have to do to get the border shut is give two or three things.
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We had Peter Navarro on to talk to him about that. Two or three things that are needed now
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to secure the border. One of those being what are called the third-party countries to make sure in
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the asylum law, you've got to go to the first free country. Even if you're a political asylum,
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you just can't come directly to the United States. So there's all types of technical things.
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Peter laid that out. What they're doing, how this is analogous to the Senate,
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basically, is they're behind closed doors. We're now arguing, arguing what amendments can we put
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on here about border security that can give us enough of a fig leaf for the war room posse and
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others that we can say, hey, we passed Ukraine, but we included two or three things that the House
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will have to approve and Biden will have to approve, right? Obviously, it's a gimmick.
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It's optics. But that's how obsessed they are. This fetish, as J.D. Vance called it,
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Senator J.D. Vance called it today earlier, this fetish about getting money to Ukraine,
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which is in the middle of a military coup right now, they're just obsessed with. So right now,
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currently, they've had this second vote on foreign, on the foreign aid package alone,
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what C-SPAN is telling us, it was 58-41, which doesn't get them there. That means the whole thing's
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kind of dead. Now, they have not called this vote. And the reason is, is that we hear the behind
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closed doors arguing about amendments that could be put on going forward, particularly on the Ukraine
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side, that would be two or three things that would give the people like the Mitch McConnells of the
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world cover to be able to vote for something. Eight senators voted for it. People like Jerry
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Moran, obviously Romney. Romney was one of the few people who voted for it this morning. I mean,
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he's been awful. He's going to just rub your nose in his awfulness. Okay, here's what I want to do now.
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That's the quick update. What we're going to do is open the show. We got some stuff to show from the
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first, what happened earlier today that you should see. Then I will be back for my commentary. We have
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the hero of Nevada, the Cash Patel joins us. Cash got none of the above to win yesterday as he came
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on the show and worked for weeks and weeks and weeks, was talking about that. In the gun deck
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primary, Nikki Haley actually lost to nobody last night, courtesy of Cash Patel and his hard work.
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We're going to have Cash on here too. A lot going on. Stick around. Let's go ahead
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and open the show now. I think this would be another example of just the move toward total
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chaos from the Republican Party that started, a brand new Republican Party that started with
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the Tea Party. Can you explain what's been happening? Yeah, I mean, the strictures and the
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kind of traditional fault lines, Katie, in the Republican Party have just changed so much in
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the last 14 years. The traditional Republican Party, the strong on foreign policy, global leader
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type party that Mitch McConnell tried to lead for the last 15 years is dead. And we've shifted into a
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new sphere that of a Republican Party that doesn't want to support allies and across the world, whether
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it be Ukraine or in the House of Representatives, suggesting that we offset our cut spending to allow
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us to give more money to Israel. It's really something that I've never seen. And then you add into this mix
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a new speaker of the House and Mike Johnson, who has no real background that would lend him, give him the
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skills to be speaker of the House. Take two bills to the floor, two serious bills, Katie. These are just
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mess. I mean, they are messaging bills in some respect, but these are serious topics. Aid to Israel, impeaching
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Alejandro Mayorkas, a cabinet secretary. And having those fail in prime time is just unlike anything I've ever
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seen. And by the way, Mike Johnson took those to the floor knowing they would fail. He purposely decided
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that he would go forward with these votes knowing that it would fail. And it just, it defies everything
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that we know about politics, which is we want winning to be the outcome, not losing. It used to be that
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Mitch McConnell was kind of the titular head of the Republican Party, even during the Trump years.
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He still had a lot of sway, especially of Republicans in the Senate. It seems like McConnell no longer has
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that sway. And the party is now fully under the control of a man who's still running for office,
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who might get disqualified from the ballot. The Supreme Court is hearing a case to disqualify him
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from the ballot tomorrow. They're hearing oral arguments. Donald Trump seems to be in command
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of this party, even though Donald Trump is not necessarily in command of his own candidacy.
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It's, it's, it's Donald Trump, but it's really Donald Trump inspired members of Congress.
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It's not, we don't have a traditional pool of, you know, ride or die defense hawks who are going to
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support a muscular foreign policy and, and, and military presence for the United States across
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the globe. We don't have that anymore. So we have people like Mike Lee and JD Vance and, and people
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of that nature who are inherently skeptical of more money going to countries like Ukraine. And they are
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the loudest voices in the Republican conference right now and add into the mix, a presidential
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election, some senators who want to be vice president, some members of the house Republican
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leadership who want to be vice president. And you do have a Republican party that continues to be
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under the spell of Donald Trump. I think that's accurate. I think Chuck is doing a great job of
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putting everybody. Isn't that also Donald Trump behind the scenes? Oh, absolutely. It's all about
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Donald Trump. It's all about Donald Trump. It's about immigration, all the rest. The president
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has cooperated in terms as, as we have, I, you know, as we see what's in the immigration bill,
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it's not a bill than any was written, but it's compromise. It's negotiation and it solves the
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problem. For a long time, the president has had this in his proposals. Now they have some more
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things they wanted. The president agreed. And now they didn't take yes for an answer.
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Mitch McConnell didn't take yes for an answer. In the beginning of the day yesterday, it was
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promising. Toward the end of the day, he said, it's changed. And that's because of Donald Trump.
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You're a former intelligence chair. I mean, you have foreign policy credentials going back,
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you know, being the hang of eight forever. And you're going to the Munich Security Conference.
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If Congress does not pass Ukraine aid, how do American lawmakers representing our government
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hold our, hold your heads up in Germany next week when NATO came through with, with billions,
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but we have weapons that they don't have that Ukraine needs, the attackums and the air defenses.
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And Ukraine is without ammo, we're told, in the trenches. And Vladimir Putin has more people,
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more men that can go into the fight because the casualties don't seem to bother him.
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What's heartbreaking about this is that we've all praised the courage of the Ukrainian people
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fighting for their democracy and in fighting for theirs, fighting for democracy writ large.
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We have overwhelming votes. We had over 300. The last vote we took in the House for a for the
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military assistance for Ukraine, the EU funding over 50 billion dollars, a huge amount of money,
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much more than well. It's a lot of money. That's largely for the economy functioning of government
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and the rest. The military assistance is what they need. And that's what our funding is.
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So it is a total embarrassment, but that's the least of it. It's a tragedy
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that we are not supporting Ukraine. Now, I I'm not giving up on it. I do think that when they
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the speaker was asked, they had his press comments what he would do if the Senate sent over the Ukraine
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package without immigration. And he didn't. He was noncommittal on it. So I'm hoping that
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so many of the Republicans support a to Ukraine. So many of them do in the House of Representatives.
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Now, they do have a Putin pro Putin caucus. They're not officially a caucus, but the advocates for
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who benefits from this, Vladimir Putin, who benefits Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump. It's connected.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval
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on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people had
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a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go
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to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
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my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Wednesday, 7th February, Year of Our Lord, 2024. Okay, where do we stand? And just for a shout out,
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this audience, as an active participant in this, one of the protagonists of the drama,
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today was a massive day. You broke the reign of terror of Mitch McConnell. I cannot tell you how big
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this vote was. Not only did they not get 60, we actually won. We beat it 50-48 just in a majority.
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Schumer had to come over a technical reason, just like yesterday. They had to have the congressman
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flip over at the last second to make sure that we could bring it back, bring the impeachment back,
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which we will bring back. But this was a historic day. You defeated this package, the invasion
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authorization bill, which they wanted to jam through, still with so many lines. And Lankford
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got up there and gave some big sob story. Somebody called him up and said, I'm going to break you.
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And he was whining up there for hours. Just an embarrassment to the people in Oklahoma,
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the great folks out there. But it was defeated. It was crushed. Mitch McConnell and all his men
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couldn't put this back together again. Absolutely. The biggest epic fail, really the most important
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thing that Mitch McConnell has ever tried to push through, I think, crashing defeat. I mean,
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not even close, not of a close count, just a crashing defeat. So historic day, the war and posse,
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you did your job. Your task and purpose was to save your country. Well, today you did because the
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invasion authorization bill crashed and burned. Now they're behind closed doors. Only the cartel can do.
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They can't get the Ukraine thing up to even debate, but they're working behind closed doors.
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We're going to get to all that and Kash Patel next in the war room.
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So massive victory today. Massive victory today. Now they're behind closed doors and here's what
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they're trying to do because as J.D. Vance, Senator Vance said this morning, this whole thing,
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including just everything regarded to the border provisions, you know, this whole thing they put
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up about the Invasion Authorization Act, was just a fig leaf, as J.D. said, to get to what they really
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want, which is the Ukraine money, money for Ukraine. They're obsessed by that. To get it to
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the money laundering, oligarchs, the child trafficking, the organs harvesting, the bio labs of
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Victoria Nuland, all of it. When we pick the scab of Ukraine, a lot of puss is going to come out.
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Now, Seymour Hersh, who's a quite controversial guy, investigative reporter, but it's been known to,
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I think sometimes people say, fast and loose with the facts. He was the guy that broke the story
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about the pipeline, the blowing up of the pipeline, and nothing he said about that has been refuted
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to date, really hadn't. Sweden called off its investigation very suspiciously, and now today
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they're going to just drop the investigation. So Seymour Hersh was the one that came out and said,
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hey, this was really probably American intelligence with the Ukrainians and others
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that did this on purpose. Remember that? Well, he's reporting that, was it Alexander Burns,
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the head of the CIA, flew to Kiev on a secret mission months ago to confront Zelensky and say
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that he and his fellow oligarchs stealing of money had gotten so large and so out of control
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that it had to stop. They're going to have a very tough time coming forward. Now, this is months and
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months ago. I think this is actually in the spring or summer that it was so bad it had to stop.
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It had to cease. Now, it's a pretty open secret in Washington that they're stealing left and right.
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That's why Marjorie Taylor Greer, remember she got the accounting auditing? None of that's ever
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been put through. And in fact, the Ukrainians the other day admitted, I think it was $40 million in
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arms were completely manufactured, phony invoices. That's just the tip of the spear. I mean, that's
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just the top of it. It's much, much deeper than that. It's been billions of dollars. Cash Patel,
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putting in perspective what's happening today, they're behind closed doors now trying to cut deals
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to say, we got to get some amendments. We can't go forward clean. We got to get some amendments.
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You got to let's have some amendments to put a little tiny fig leaf onto the Ukraine thing so
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that we can tell the people, hey, we got border security. We told you we'd only do Ukraine with
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border security because Danes is telling them, if you do this, if you do a clean, all of our candidates
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will lose. People are outraged, right? People are, this audience has stood up and said, no,
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not one penny for Ukraine, not one penny until you secure the Southern border. And obviously that
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has not happened yet. Your perspective. It's a huge victory for the Donald Trump movement
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and the war room posse standing behind him because we care more about safeguarding our own communities
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that have been dilapidated by the Biden administration through the invasion of the Southern border,
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whether it's fentanyl, narco traffickers, human trafficking, terrorist criminals coming over here and
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committing murder in our towns, in our neighborhoods. We care more about safeguarding
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our country first, and then we'll help the rest of the world. We haven't done step one in this Biden
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administration. And I agree with you and I have forever. There should be no more money to the
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Ukraine until America is secure. And America has spoken and the swamp has been drowned out.
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Cash, here's what I find. We played Pelosi because we know the audience loves hearing her names,
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loves hearing her voice. We played Pelosi, but for 72 hours, they've been obsessed. This is Donald
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Trump that's shutting this down. Well, he's running for president of the United States. He's leading in
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the polls. He leads a huge movement called the Republican Party or the new MAGA take or the
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Republican Party. He's one of the most profound and important political leaders in this country,
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in the country's history. Of course he's going to have, and these bills cut right to sovereignty of the
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country, security of the southern border, and our commitments overseas, particularly to NATO-affiliated
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entities. It's the heart of what Donald Trump ran for. It's the intellectual center of what he ran for.
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Of course he's going to have an opinion, what's said. And the people that are there because he
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endorsed them and raised money for them and supported that are his followers or represent his
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followers so certainly have a voice. What is this beef they've got with Trump having a point of view in
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this, sir? Because Trump's right, and they can't have that. They can't have that being printed on
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the New York Times and across the headlines at CNN and the fake news. Anything that Trump does that
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delivers this country a win, they will try to remove that win with fake news and disinformation
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campaigns. They just cannot have Donald Trump succeed. And you're right. Donald Trump is the
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leader of this movement, but America has spoken behind him. America is the one that shut down
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this bill that masqueraded as a border security bill. America spoke and said, we want to take
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care of us and our border and our neighborhoods first. And then if we have leftover, we'll give
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it over there, a down range, as we call it. And that's not Donald Trump just saying it singularly.
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That's like, I don't even know how many, maybe 100 million people getting behind him. And the
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mainstream media has just ticked off that they continue to be defeated by Donald Trump's movement,
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and they can't have him have a win. Cash, help me out here, because you were over in Capitol Hill
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on the, as a senior member with, under Nunez at House Intel. Explain to our audience, what is the
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obsession, J.D. said today, Senator Vance said, bordering on a fetish of getting money in Ukraine,
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because this whole exercise has gotten down this, the whole thing of even the border, you know,
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border amnesty bill, all that phoniness was all to give a fig leaf to get money to Ukraine. What is
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the obsession to getting money into Ukraine, sir? The defense industrial complex. They own the
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swamp. They own the majority of people that put up this border fraud bill, because they want to print
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money, like Nikki Haley and the Rhino establishment class, who are owned by these huge defense contractors,
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and pouring billions of dollars to print money, start war and continue to print money. And they
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want to do it now in this election cycle, because a war cycle for the economic side of things will
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prop up the economy just because of the amount of money that's flooded into it. And that narrative,
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they need to say, look at what Joe Biden's doing to our economy. So we just seize not only the
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lobbyist industry, but the defense industrial titans that have run Washington, D.C., were just delivered
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to blow. They're not going away, Steve. They do a lot of great work. Don't get me wrong. But they do
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a lot of work that cuts against the interests of the American people. And they've been running that
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town for years. Listen, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was on the board of Raytheon making
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bazillions of dollars. Since he became the SECDEF, Raytheon has gotten $3 billion in government
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contracts. That's pretty much all you need to know. Not bad work. Let's play the clip from this
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morning on on Birdbrain about about what happened in Nevada. We have a nonstarter in Nevada. Majority
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of Republican primary voters last night checked the box for none of these candidates over Nikki Haley
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by more than two to one. Former President Trump is not on that ballot. So onward, we roll to the next
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phase. OK, Cash, this is it's so amazing what you did. Tell what you had. You explained it, how you
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broke it down for the president and his team, what was happening in Nevada and how you helped with the
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war and posse and all the great MAGA folks out there and the Trump team and the Trump team, Nevada, and
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of course, his campaign team delivered really a crushing blow to tricky Nikki. Look, Donald Trump,
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it's a masterclass performance by Donald Trump. And we had to deliver for him because he's working so
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hard for the American people. So my first major MAGA hat tip is to the war room posse for getting
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this done. And we're going to make 45-47 because all the states are falling in line. And Steve,
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a major hat tip to you. I'm going to start calling you the field marshal because, look, the wins you
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guys are racking up, whether it's defeating the border bill, whether it's changing leadership at the
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speaker or the RNC, and now the Nevada. Remember, Nikki Haley and the mainstream media had gone out
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here and printed the headlines that she was going to win the primary. Not only did we stop the mail-in
00:24:51.600
ballot con job that is the Nevada primary, we actually got people to shove it down their own
00:24:58.800
throats and vote none of the above. She literally lost to no one. And that's how many votes we got out
00:25:05.680
there. Look at that. 43,000 people rolled out against Nikki Haley. And now we're going to roll
00:25:11.460
into our caucus on Thursday, February tomorrow with President Trump here. And we're going to deliver
00:25:16.240
a huge win for him there and give him all the GOP delegates here in the state of Nevada, the key to
00:25:21.040
the West. It's a monster win. They thought it could not be done. And it would not have been possible
00:25:26.380
without the likes of Seagal Chata and Michael McDonald and the Trump senior campaign officials
00:25:31.140
that they've got down here working the caucuses for the team. It's amazing.
00:25:35.680
Yeah. Head tip to Susie and the team. Just incredible. Was it 27,000 votes? How many
00:25:47.660
checked actually none of the above? By the way, Chris Lasavita and Susie. How many actual people
00:25:53.560
checked none of the above? Was it 27,000 or 47,000? No, I think it was 43,000. I think the difference
00:26:01.640
was like 27,000 or something. There is 43,000. That's an amazing. For 43,000 people to go
00:26:09.040
was spending no advertising. So the Trump campaign team, McDonald, Seagal, the whole apparatus out
00:26:16.360
there, MAGA, War Room Posse, Cash. This is huge. I mean, when you first told me, I go, oh my God,
00:26:23.460
who's even going to, because it was a mail-in vote too. Are they going to hear about it early enough?
00:26:27.200
This was a massive win. And quite frankly, Nikki Haley was shocked. Was she not? Was she not?
00:26:33.480
Because they played these games. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. I think what Boris
00:26:37.940
says. Yeah, no, they were floored. And she said, oh, I don't want to spend the 50,000. And now she,
00:26:42.920
this is rich. She's calling the Nevada primary and election apparatus rigged for Donald Trump.
00:26:48.000
No, the voters in this state, the voters in this state literally went out of their way to use your
00:26:55.200
mail-in ballot rig job and selected none of the above. You're not even a human. You're not even
00:27:01.640
a human to these people because your policies are garbage. And they love Donald Trump so much that
00:27:07.720
they're going to do it again on Thursday and trounce you at the polls, at the caucus. It's going to be
00:27:12.780
great. And they said it couldn't be done, Steve. And I just can't reiterate it. The Trump campaign,
00:27:16.920
the team that Susie and company have over there, Seagal, Mike McDonald, and the war room posse
00:27:22.560
delivered. Literally, when we started talking about this, you were like, no one, you know,
00:27:26.180
how are we going to get people to care? We defeated Nikki Haley. It is a monster win. And it just shows
00:27:31.380
you how much Donald Trump is loved out here and across America. Cash, glad you're out in Nevada.
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We love it. And tomorrow, Feb 8th, the caucus, Donald Trump's going to be here. We're going
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Natalie, our own Natalie Winner is going to be a Tim Pool tonight. I'm always a little concerned
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every time she's going out to their studio, but hey, you know, I tell her parents it's
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going to be fine. It's going to be cool. We have security. We have security, correct,
00:31:20.520
Well, I would say it's a better bet that we have the wonderful Tim Cash crew driving
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me out there as opposed to me driving myself, you know, my driving track record. So there
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is no security concerns on that front, but as always, I'm excited to be joining them tonight.
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No, I don't want you driving out to Tim Pooles out to, where is it, in the middle of West by
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God, Virginia. No, we don't want that. What time does it come on? Do you know what the topics
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are going to be? Who are also your crew members tonight?
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I don't know who else is going to be on the show, although I'd put out a lot of money saying
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that Tim Pooles, but besides Tim, you never know. That's the fun of the show. I don't
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even know what we're talking about, but I think today is an especially fun day to be going on
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Tim Pooles because of all the victories we're having, and frankly, the death of the old Republican
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party, I think that was how Punchbowl phrased it, so I could think of no better day to
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Great day to have it. Natalie, your social media, how do people follow you? Grace is going
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to, we're going to be streaming it live. I may even come in for a comment or two or
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three. Where do people go for your social media, ma'am?
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Hey, I will always take constructive criticism, not from many people, but from you. You're the
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one exception. Natalie G. Winter is on all social media platforms.
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And where do people get to the, where do they get to your new brand? Where do they get to
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You can go to shesowright.co. We have a bunch of new stuff coming in, including a men's line,
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Oh my gosh. You know, I cut a very tough, I cut a very tough, I cut a very tough deal to
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be a, you know, to be a model, so we'll get, I'll get my lawyer to negotiate with you later.
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As long as they, as long as you have Slims, as long as you have Slims. Thank you, man.
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Of course. The LA look. Thank you, Natalie Winters. On Tim Pool tonight, TimCast,
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Grace and Mo are going to have it up. Always proud to have Natalie out there. We love Tim Pool,
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love the entire team. They're just great, fantastic people. Julie Kelly joins us. So Julie,
00:33:30.580
we had both Boris and Mike on yesterday with the breaking news. We had a day to absorb it. You
00:33:35.760
followed this more closely than anybody. And I want to tell the folks, because I know
00:33:40.720
our team looks to us to curate MSNBC and CNN and BBC and all these other ones they don't want to
00:33:48.800
watch, so they have us curate. Julie, literally 90% of every show, they may get a short thing in
00:33:56.080
there about the, about the bill collapsing and all this. But 90% of every show is, is the ruling
00:34:02.680
yesterday by the appellate court. I mean, it's, it's, it's just all they do. Andrew Weissman,
00:34:07.000
I think now has a green room set up permanently and he's on every show day and night. I mean,
00:34:13.600
I've never seen anything like it. Why are they obsessed? Just tell me before you get into the,
00:34:18.040
why are they obsessed by this ruling? It's like, it's, it's, they've had so much bad news and reality
00:34:23.080
on the polling and Trump's winning everywhere. And now Trump's winning in the house and Senate.
00:34:26.580
They, they have to hang on to this because it's a weird obsession they have with this ruling.
00:34:32.440
Well, it's really all they have. I have a piece up on my sub stack that I posted over the weekend
00:34:37.580
that talks about the Andrew Weissmans of the world, the legal experts, the MSNBC and CNN
00:34:43.740
analysts and hosts who were really starting to bully the appellate court last week into issuing
00:34:51.860
their decision. Even though oral arguments had been held on January 9th, Steve, it's usually three,
00:34:57.340
four, five months between oral arguments and the appellate court publishing their decision.
00:35:02.580
So they were starting to bully these judges, especially that Bush 41 judge, Karen Henderson,
00:35:08.520
who they believed was holding this up into finally posting their decision. Why? Because the March 4th
00:35:16.580
trial date, as you know, Judge Chudkin officially vacated that last week. All of the pretrial calendars,
00:35:21.840
has been on hold awaiting this immunity decision. Steve, these people thought they were going to be
00:35:27.100
in Washington. That's where I am right now. Right now, for weeks and months, covering this historic
00:35:33.680
trial in Washington, D.C., covering every hearing, talking about every motion that was posted,
00:35:39.540
discussing the jury selection process, the heated banter between Judge Chudkin and Trump's legal team.
00:35:45.900
And they're sitting there twiddling their thumbs or something spinning because what they anticipated
00:35:51.960
was going to be happening at the start of this year has all been put on hold with this immunity
00:35:56.980
issue. So now they're back in the swoon of possibly there will be this criminal trial of Donald Trump
00:36:04.080
in Washington soon, pending what the Supreme Court decides to do and Donald Trump decides to do
00:36:10.080
really next. His decision, his step will determine where this goes.
00:36:15.500
But hang on. But let's talk about that decision. I thought normally appellate courts would come back
00:36:21.040
and give decisions, rulings, and then people could either decide to go en banc or go to the Supreme Court.
00:36:26.500
But you had the option of going to the entire panel and maybe getting some dissenting opinions if you lost
00:36:31.260
that you could use later. This ruling was kind of strange because they're so obsessed with getting
00:36:36.600
going. They actually ruled out the en banc process by saying if you don't file with the Supreme Court
00:36:42.380
in seven days, the stay comes off and the trial goes ahead as previously scheduled. Am I right in that
00:36:48.880
interpretation? That's exactly right. So this was unusual, and I know Mike Davis talked about this as
00:36:54.580
well, that they basically gave Trump an ultimatum. Either you go directly to the Supreme Court, you ask for
00:37:00.760
an emergency stay of this appellate ruling, which would put this ruling on hold, basically. You go to
00:37:07.280
the Supreme Court before February 13th, and you start the process there. Because if you go back to
00:37:14.020
the D.C. appellate and ask for this en banc review, which means the entire court, not just three judges,
00:37:19.960
would review it. If you do that, the hold on the pretrial calendar will be lifted, and Judge Chutkin can move
00:37:27.100
forward now with a possible trial date and go back and fulfill all of the things that have been on hold
00:37:33.980
since December. So really, he has no choice but to go to the Supreme Court. That's where everyone
00:37:41.540
thinks that this is going to be ultimately resolved. And so if he goes to the D.C. appellate,
00:37:47.620
asks for this full court review, then Judge Chutkin can right away get started with the pretrial
00:37:54.120
calendar that's been on hold really since the beginning of December. So Trump really doesn't
00:37:59.260
have an option, I think. So what will he file before February 13th? It's really the 12th, but he has to
00:38:06.500
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I heard, hang on, hang on. I'm hearing his lawyers. Can his lawyers go
00:38:11.520
and challenge this? Can't they go to the, can't they go to the, can't they, can't they challenge this
00:38:17.160
with the appellate? Because it's so extraordinary that you can't go en banc, you're penalized, this whole
00:38:22.080
goes. This is election interference. It's obvious by the ruling, they're obsessed, obsessed with
00:38:28.340
getting Trump into this federal courthouse in, in Washington, D.C. with a rigged jury. And he can't
00:38:34.860
get a fair trial. It's impossible. They realize the only way they can potentially beat him, although
00:38:38.580
the polls show only 2%, and it wouldn't be that he'd win by five, even if he was found guilty of this
00:38:45.080
bogus charge. I mean, how can, how can this ruling stand? Doesn't Trump have any alternatives to question
00:38:51.240
this? Well, his only challenge to this in the D.C. circuit, the appellate court, would be to ask for
00:38:57.360
this en banc review. So that is the way to challenge the panel, the traditional way of challenging a
00:39:04.540
panel's ruling. They want this kicked out of the D.C. circuit, though. And it really doesn't make any
00:39:09.780
sense because we've seen this over and over, especially with J6 cases and Trump-related cases.
00:39:14.860
This just happened in the Twitter appeal, that the D.C. circuit routinely denies requests for
00:39:21.480
en banc, I'm saying in probably the wrong way, review. And plus, it's a fully, as Mike Davis said,
00:39:29.300
Obama-appointed stacked court. So there's really no point except to prolong the process.
00:39:36.020
So what these judges did, because if you do ask for en banc, then the judges all have to confer,
00:39:41.380
and then they issue a ruling that would prolong this whole process. So what these judges did is
00:39:47.940
cut off that option, that relief that would add time to Donald Trump trying to get this resolved,
00:39:54.780
and by the same token, delaying the trial in Washington. So the judges cut that off and said,
00:40:01.440
if you go there, we're going to start the pretrial schedule back to Judge Chutkin. But if you go to the
00:40:07.060
Supreme Court by the 13th of February, end of the 12th of February, and you apply for a stay of this
00:40:16.620
ruling, emergency stay, then it could potentially be on hold indefinitely. So that is what I assume
00:40:24.560
Donald Trump's lawyers will do. They will file this application for an emergency stay to this appellate
00:40:29.420
ruling. You need five justices to agree to a stay. Will they get five, or will they not, and just
00:40:39.120
deny the emergency stay? And then everything sort of starts again, while Trump then goes back to the
00:40:45.980
Supreme Court, files a petition for a writ of cert, that that will technically then ask the court to
00:40:53.160
reverse this appellate ruling. What about, we've had updates and also the Mar-a-Lago situation,
00:41:01.220
which has kind of gotten off the front burner. What's going on there? Right. So things aren't
00:41:06.260
going as well for Jack Smith in Southern Florida in Judge Cannon's courtroom as they have been for
00:41:11.860
Judge Chutkin, who really is nothing more than a rubber stamp for DOJ and has been. Judge Cannon,
00:41:17.700
on the same day that the appellate court ruling came down, she issued a pretty stern scolding of
00:41:24.480
Jack Smith for his attempts to continue to keep information under seal and redacted. So Donald
00:41:31.880
Trump's lawyers went to her last month and said, we want to file this motion, discovery motion. A lot
00:41:40.720
of it is redacted per the protective order, but we want to unseal this. And we want Jack Smith to come
00:41:45.540
back and explain why he wants all of this information related to the investigation kept
00:41:51.200
under seal. Jack Smith went back to Judge Cannon, said, we want all of this, you know, it's national
00:41:57.020
security, it's personal identifying information, it's relates to an ongoing investigation. Gave all
00:42:02.980
the normal excuses. Well, Judge Cannon yesterday said, no, Jack Smith, I've looked at all of this
00:42:09.840
in my courtroom privately. Here are a few things that can be kept under seal. All of this other
00:42:17.220
information, though, is going to be made public. And what she said repeatedly is, there is an interest
00:42:24.400
in transparency and the public's right to know about what's happening in criminal trials.
00:42:29.740
She is not going to circumvent that because the defendant is Donald Trump. And so we could next week
00:42:36.100
start seeing some of this information that Jack Smith has wanted to keep under seal, including
00:42:40.660
Steve, what the Trump's defense team uncovered, which was a separate additional FBI investigation
00:42:48.680
into Donald Trump that has a name, not Crossfire Hurricane, who knows what they came up with this
00:42:54.000
time. Another FBI investigation into Donald Trump that Jack Smith is trying to conceal. And Judge Cannon,
00:43:01.440
in her order, said, no, it's an ongoing investigation. There's no reason, basically,
00:43:05.920
she said, to keep this redacted, except to protect those involved. So we could know next week about the
00:43:13.940
existence of yet another FBI investigation into Donald Trump by Joe Biden's Department of Justice.
00:43:23.380
Can we take, can you hang on for just a short minute? I got to ask you about Jason Smith tweeted
00:43:27.780
out something just when you were coming on about Fonny Willis. That's quite shocking. So can we go
00:43:32.540
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Okay. I want to make sure I get this correct. So Julie Kelly just broke that there's another FBI
00:45:58.420
investigation of President Trump that was redacted. Looks like the judge is going to unseal that. So
00:46:03.080
you're going to see the FBI has been all over President Trump. We'll get that. That's a fact.
00:46:07.480
There's a tweet out. This is by Jason Smith. Congressman Jason Smith, head of Ways and Means
00:46:14.800
Committee. Pretty powerful guy in Capitol Hill. I'm not crazy about his tax bill, but a guy is not
00:46:19.780
known to be hair on fire. Pretty straight shooter. Julie, it says, and I quote, and I think this has
00:46:25.740
something to do somehow with the Jeff Clark situation, but I'm not sure. But for the audience,
00:46:30.500
this is a quote, White House visitor logs confirmed that Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis
00:46:35.980
and her lead prosecutor had multiple hour-long meetings with the president. End quote. End quote. I
00:46:44.980
want to continue on. Quoting, months later, she announces indictments against the president's
00:46:49.160
chief political opponents. Let me reread this at the beginning from Jason Smith, congressman on
00:46:53.520
Twitter. White House visitor logs confirm that Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis and her
00:46:59.400
lead prosecutor had multiple hour-long meetings with the president. Julie Kelly, I know you're
00:47:05.960
run that down for us, but this is the types of things that are starting to explode all over this
00:47:10.900
lawfare battlefield, ma'am? Yeah, I'm just looking at the logs right now going through it, and I'm sure
00:47:16.940
Jason Smith, to your point, he's not a flamethrower. He's not going to say something that they don't
00:47:21.440
know is true. But look, what we already know is true, and this came out in a hearing, to your point
00:47:25.460
of Jeffrey Clark a few weeks ago, is that Fannie Willis' prosecution team had to admit that they have
00:47:31.600
at least two letters from Joe Biden's general counsel related to that investigation. And
00:47:39.720
unsurprisingly, I mean, you can't get a decent judge except for Judge Canada, a few exceptions,
00:47:46.100
the judge in that case, he asked for those letters. He looked at them in his ex parte, in his courtroom by
00:47:55.020
himself or with others, and now he's placed those letters under seal. So no one can get that, including
00:48:01.300
the defendants such as Jeffrey Clark. So we know correspondence exists. We already know from some
00:48:08.180
White House, from the White House visitor log that Nathan Wade was there. So this is, would be pretty
00:48:16.260
interesting, shocking really, that Fannie Willis went to the White House and met directly with anyone
00:48:22.240
there, including the president, certainly his general counsel. That also would be quite interesting.
00:48:27.900
And remember when Fannie Willis was asked at her press conference if she had been in contact with Jack
00:48:33.640
Smith and she refused to answer. We do know, too, from some of these court filings by Trump's lawyers
00:48:41.440
that the Biden White House, the general counsel, and others were deeply involved in concocting
00:48:49.580
at least the classified documents case. And this dates back to really from the moment that Donald
00:48:54.820
Trump left office, colluding with the intelligence community, Lisa Monaco at the Department of Justice,
00:49:01.440
the National Archives, and correspondence from Jonathan Suh in the Biden White House general counsel's
00:49:09.720
Okay. Julie, thank you, by the way. C-SPAN's reporting. Schumer's back on the floor of the
00:49:16.980
Senate talking to his top aides. This vote has been open for three hours. He's losing 58-41. He needs
00:49:24.540
to get to 60. They've been trying to cut backroom deals all over the Senate. We have no idea what's
00:49:30.420
happening, but it's been a long day for Chuck Schumer. Took a massive loss earlier this afternoon. Looks
00:49:35.240
like another massive loss unless they can come up with some fig leaf. Julie Kelly, amazing reporting
00:49:41.120
as usual analysis. This thing is getting curiouser and curiouser, ma'am. Can we get your social media
00:49:48.120
and where people go to your Substack to follow everything that Julie Kelly puts out, all your
00:49:54.120
Thanks, Steve. Declassified with Julie Kelly at Substack. Also at Real Clear Investigations. I have
00:49:59.700
a big piece on Florence Pan and my Twitter, ex-Julie underscore Kelly, too.
00:50:07.020
Florence Pan. That's a piece of work. You've got to read. Grace, you've got to get this Substack,
00:50:12.800
Captain Bannon. People's heads will blow up when they see the caliber and quality of character
00:50:18.720
of Judge Florence Pan. Julie Kelly, thank you so much, ma'am, particularly for your work on
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everything related to J6. Incredible. Thanks, Steve. Secret FBI investigation. Fonnie Willis,
00:50:31.580
Jason Smith telling us she's spending multiple hours, trips to the White House, talked to the
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president. We don't refer to him as the president, by the way, Jason Smith. We refer to him as the
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usurper. I know a guy that believes in that with me, Mike Lindell. It's one of the reasons they're
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trying to put you in bankruptcy. First off, Mike, I got a couple of minutes here. I'll hold you through
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so we'll go to the top of the show in the next hour on Lindell TV. I think you may know about
00:50:55.640
that operation. But I just got to ask you here, we got to talk about the company, but I just got
00:51:00.820
real quickly, give me a minute. Ronna McDaniels sending out, I know the New York Times reporting
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President Trump's made a decision, and we love President Trump, and we know how those things
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roll. She's sending out emails to all the committeemen. Hey, I'm going to come and visit
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you. We got so much going on. There's great things happening. I'm totally in charge. She's
00:51:20.300
not, you're going to have to take her out of there with a trenching tool. Do you agree
00:51:25.520
Yeah. I just hope she goes voluntarily and says, and we don't want another Megan Wolfe
00:51:31.940
from Wisconsin on our hands. You know, she's got to go, Steve. She's got to go. We have
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Julian Murray would be the perfect replacement. I've told that to many of the RNC I've talked
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to already today. And Ronna's got to go. We don't have time. We're running out of time
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here before the election. They've got to get behind securing our elections. Having the RNC
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behind what my team is already doing out there, you can check that out at lyndaleplan.com.
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Everything we're doing in this country to secure our elections, we need the RNC. Not just to embrace
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us, but quit blocking us. It's disgusting, especially when you voted in a resolution,
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168 to zero for paper ballots, hand counted, same day voting, precinct level, signature required.
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That's Ronna. In my mind, Steve, that's her biggest downfall is she didn't secure our election.
00:52:26.000
She collected money for it in 2020, hundreds of millions of dollars, at least a hundred million,
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and didn't do anything. So at least you better, you know, the RNC, when they get through this,
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they better. And I think it's not just Ronna. I think it's lawyers within the RNC, all kinds of
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trouble there that these uniparty RNC members that are there, they all got to be found out and we're
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going to call them all out, not just Ronna. Hey, Mike, can you hang on for a second? I just want
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