Bannon's War Room - February 19, 2024


Episode 3401： The Converging Crisis

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In this episode, I talk about the rise of the anti-globalist movement and how it links to pro-Russia and Vladimir Putin. I also discuss the role of the EU as a bulwark against China and Russia, and the need for Europe to take a bigger role in global security.

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00:00:00.000 Just a perhaps predictable reaction against the forces of globalization that swept through us during the 80s and 90s, but left and the orts, perhaps, but left people behind.
00:00:13.360 And so you had a conglomeration of people who felt that they hadn't benefited from globalization.
00:00:18.780 You saw this spread of inequality in Europe and in the United States.
00:00:22.740 And this is a kickback against that with charismatic leaders who say, look, I'm out for you.
00:00:27.860 I'm out for the little guy, whether you are from the left or from the right, doesn't matter.
00:00:31.100 It's the little guy against the big guys, the little guy against the establishment.
00:00:34.300 That is a common thread. And there are three things that unite this movement, you know, across countries.
00:00:40.140 It is a hostility to trade, a feeling that globalization has gone too far.
00:00:44.120 It's a hostility to migration and a feeling that there is too much mixing, particularly the regular kind, and a fear also of the hegemonic left and what that's become.
00:00:51.960 It almost came after NAFTA here in the United States, the reaction, the anti-globalist beginnings of that.
00:01:01.080 And the irony is that you hear from agricultural people, farmers, as well as big agriculture and big business, that they need migration.
00:01:10.240 They need labor. We're developing a labor shortage here, actually, in the United States.
00:01:15.160 But the border issue is certainly the immigration issue has the most compelling force behind it.
00:01:22.100 It doesn't make economic sense.
00:01:23.500 What's so fascinating to me is how it gets tied up with the pro-Russia thing.
00:01:26.520 Because I understand the migration thing. I understand the nationalism.
00:01:29.360 I understand, you know, the people have got left behind.
00:01:31.680 But I don't really get the bit about where this gets tied in with, well, that makes us supporters of...
00:01:36.060 I mean, Putin has adhered to this by presenting himself as a defender of traditional civilization, right?
00:01:42.160 Christianity, orthodox in his case, but anti-LGBTQ rights, anti-transgenderism, anti-decadence of the West.
00:01:49.220 And he's made common cause with a part of the American political system that otherwise in the past was very anti-Russia,
00:01:54.600 when Russia was perceived to be left as a communist nation.
00:01:57.500 And now Putin is doing it from the other side, on the ultra-right.
00:02:00.340 And he is making common cause in Europe with the various right-wing parties there through this cultural war.
00:02:07.100 In fact, he's doing the same thing we hear in our own domestic politics.
00:02:10.500 It just seems as though only Donald Trump could have energized this pro-Putin part of the Republican establishment.
00:02:18.320 It's so counterintuitive.
00:02:20.080 I mean, Putin is demonized for very good reasons.
00:02:24.660 And maybe the Navalny is murdering, clearly.
00:02:28.760 The cyber threat posed by the Chinese government is massive.
00:02:33.040 China's hacking program is larger than that of every other major nation combined.
00:02:38.260 And that size advantage is only magnified because the PRC uses AI, built in large part on stolen innovation and stolen data, to improve its hacking operations, including to steal yet more AI tech and data.
00:02:56.580 I know people have heard what, you know, Trump said and, you know, they've criticized it and they said, well, Trump is going to abandon Europe.
00:03:03.660 I don't think that's true at all.
00:03:04.660 I think Trump is actually issuing a wake-up call to say that Europe has to take a bigger role in its own security.
00:03:11.800 Germany, just this year, will spend more than 2% of GDP, okay?
00:03:16.680 That, of course, is something that we had to really push for in the United States.
00:03:20.640 And it just now has finally cleared that threshold.
00:03:23.280 But it's not just about money spent.
00:03:24.800 How many mechanized brigades could Germany feel tomorrow?
00:03:29.180 Maybe one.
00:03:30.380 Maybe one.
00:03:31.600 Okay?
00:03:32.240 The problem with Europe is that it doesn't provide enough of a deterrence on its own because it hasn't taken enough of a, it hasn't taken the initiative in its own security.
00:03:43.940 I think that the American security blanket has allowed European security to atrophy.
00:03:49.000 And again, the point is not we want to abandon Europe.
00:03:51.840 The point is we need to focus as a country on East Asia and we need our European allies to step up in Europe.
00:03:58.260 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:04:05.880 Pray for our enemies.
00:04:07.840 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:04:11.140 You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:04:15.380 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:04:17.280 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:04:18.700 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that.
00:04:20.480 But you're not going to stop it.
00:04:21.400 It's going to happen.
00:04:22.440 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:04:26.100 MAGA Media.
00:04:27.440 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:04:32.860 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:04:36.640 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:42.940 War Room.
00:04:43.840 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:04:46.240 It's Monday, 19 February, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:04:56.500 It's CPAC week.
00:04:58.300 President Trump will return to the Capitol next Saturday to give this return to the Capitol,
00:05:06.280 give a really, I think, a fire-breathing speech that will kick off the drive to the White House.
00:05:12.740 Also that night, he'll be back in South Carolina for the blowout of neocon Nicky. 0.59
00:05:18.360 Who won't stop after that?
00:05:19.720 It's President's Day in the year 2024.
00:05:25.560 You know, on Monday morning, I do some radio hits to make sure we kick off the week.
00:05:29.780 Of course, I do the John Fredericks Network, do his show traditionally every Monday.
00:05:35.120 Also been doing Sid's show in WABC in New York, the morning show.
00:05:40.960 Sid's actually doing five hours a day.
00:05:42.920 I think he's sitting in for Kilmeade also.
00:05:45.360 He asked the question today about the times we're in.
00:05:50.060 I said this is one of the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous time in American history,
00:05:54.540 including leading up and at the beginning of the Civil War and leading up in the beginning of World War II,
00:06:00.260 and here's why.
00:06:00.860 We have three converging crises upon us.
00:06:08.700 Many more off of that, but I mean crises.
00:06:11.100 We have 10 million illegal alien invaders, 10 million illegal alien invaders in the country.
00:06:16.160 And you can see every day what's happening to the country because of that, and they keep coming.
00:06:22.120 And Biden, in a well-thought-through and highly organized effort, continues to let them in and get them deep inside the country.
00:06:31.520 This afternoon at 4 o'clock, Laura Loomer is down in the Darien Gap and down in Panama,
00:06:41.560 and she's got some amazing footage, I think from Somalia, of people coming from Somalia and talking about Omar,
00:06:49.380 and she's invited them, and Biden's invited them in, and they're going to the United States,
00:06:53.880 and they're going up to Minnesota.
00:06:54.900 So it's not just stopped.
00:06:58.640 It's getting worse.
00:07:01.580 And, of course, Lindsey Graham, he didn't go to the Munich Security Conference.
00:07:07.920 You saw a couple of cuts from that, and Andrea Mitchell and the long faces there at Morning Joe this morning,
00:07:14.480 sitting in for Morning Mika, the long faces there.
00:07:16.600 Oh, what's caused this?
00:07:17.660 Well, it's anti-trade.
00:07:18.980 Not anti-trade.
00:07:20.480 It's not anti-trade at all.
00:07:21.880 It's anti-shipping one's jobs away from one's country for no reason or just for the reason of getting slightly smaller wage give-ups,
00:07:33.700 but also it's the environment.
00:07:34.800 They all talk about the environment, but they want to ship it to third-world countries. 0.94
00:07:38.120 We don't have to worry about that.
00:07:39.160 They don't. 0.65
00:07:40.840 This is the hypocrisy of it all.
00:07:42.340 It's not trade, and it's not migration.
00:07:44.780 These are invasions.
00:07:45.840 It's an invasion of Europe, an invasion of the United States of America, full stop invasion. 0.89
00:07:49.500 And the Europeans, and finally, I think it's Root, I think he's Dutch, 0.99
00:07:56.940 has said that the leaders over there stopped whining about, oh, Trump, oh, Trump, oh, Trump,
00:08:00.900 because all weekend we covered it, we followed it pretty closely.
00:08:04.940 It's all, oh, Trump, oh, Trump, oh, MAGA, oh, these right-wing reactionaries, pro-Putin.
00:08:09.900 We're not pro-Putin at all.
00:08:12.980 We're pro the Russian people.
00:08:14.300 We're pro the Chinese people.
00:08:15.360 They were our allies in World War II.
00:08:16.800 Let's remember history here.
00:08:18.340 It was Lao-Beijing and the Russian serfs coupled with the American fighting man in the English,
00:08:30.720 throw the English in there too, and we'll put the Indians in because they stood at Irrawaddy 0.89
00:08:37.980 and others, the Indian Army.
00:08:39.520 But that's what broke the back of the fascists of Imperial Japan, the Italians, the Italian fascists, and the Nazis.
00:08:49.020 And now you have all the people who are the elites of Europe,
00:08:52.900 and the elites of Europe did not stand up to this, and now they want us to underwrite it for the fourth time.
00:08:59.860 It's not happening.
00:09:00.680 And they've got to come to the reality.
00:09:01.920 They've got to start picking up.
00:09:02.940 They maybe have to go to their own people and make the case why maybe you don't have free health care.
00:09:08.220 Maybe you don't have – you can't retire at 50 with a full pension.
00:09:11.700 Maybe you're not going to get six or eight weeks off in the summer.
00:09:14.020 Because we're so afraid of the Russians. 0.98
00:09:17.180 We have to defend – if you're so afraid of the Russians, step up and defend yourself.
00:09:20.200 You're not an American protector anymore.
00:09:22.660 Game over.
00:09:24.940 And as J.D. said, the Germans and others getting to 2 percent of their GDP, it's all because of Trump 100 percent.
00:09:30.700 Biden and the Atlanticist crowd and MSNBC and Stavridis and all these great thinkers
00:09:36.580 that have been dead wrong, dead wrong, dead wrong in the Ukraine from the beginning.
00:09:41.980 And now I was reading a piece over the weekend.
00:09:45.260 People are saying it could be up to a million dead and maybe more.
00:09:49.580 You don't know.
00:09:52.160 But all weekend, it's blamed on you.
00:09:54.080 It's blamed on this show.
00:09:55.120 It's blamed on you.
00:09:56.420 It's your fault.
00:09:58.180 It's your fault we're not shoveling $60 billion, although the Associated Press gave a thing that they only have a plan A.
00:10:06.540 There's no plan B.
00:10:07.720 In fact, we can grab that on Getter and get it up maybe later in the next block.
00:10:10.760 Kamala Harris, all of them over there.
00:10:13.080 Plan A is you underwriting another $60 billion.
00:10:15.700 It's not happening.
00:10:17.220 It's not happening.
00:10:19.220 They don't have a plan B.
00:10:20.680 And nobody over there, including any senator, is this $60 billion in it?
00:10:25.640 You're going to come back next year?
00:10:26.620 Of course you're going to come back next year.
00:10:28.280 And there's no chance for victory.
00:10:30.120 They're retreating right now.
00:10:31.040 Why are they retreating right now?
00:10:31.980 It's not.
00:10:32.440 They're trying to blame.
00:10:33.720 The whole blame is on you.
00:10:34.820 Oh, the MAGA Republicans, the MAGA Republicans, the MAGA Republicans didn't send arms.
00:10:39.420 No, they do not have the young men to fight.
00:10:43.740 Full stop.
00:10:45.640 The mothers and fathers there have not sent their sons and daughters to die in the churnal house of the eastern front over the Russian-speaking front of the Donbassk and down in Crimea.
00:10:56.460 They have not done it, and they're not going to do it.
00:11:00.120 No force on earth can allow their kids to be press-ganged into going to their certain death.
00:11:11.100 That's Ukrainian people voting.
00:11:12.940 This is the whole thing about the military coup.
00:11:15.120 This is why he fired all the beloved generals.
00:11:17.500 The beloved generals said, yo, we've got to have bodies. 0.73
00:11:21.060 And those bodies, the average age of our military is 42.
00:11:23.460 It's not going to work.
00:11:24.480 Do you ever hear that in the Senate?
00:11:25.680 Do you ever hear that of any discussion? 1.00
00:11:28.760 Is this not another Iraq and Afghanistan where they think you're idiots and you're going to go up – they're going to go up on TV for stupid people, Murdoch News, like they had Nikki Haley. 1.00
00:11:38.140 They had Nikki Haley with a town hall last night. 1.00
00:11:41.480 You disgust me. 0.96
00:11:43.360 She rates a town hall. 0.99
00:11:44.820 She's not going away.
00:11:46.960 She's not going away.
00:11:49.740 She's not going away.
00:11:50.840 She's going to get blown out in South Carolina. 0.74
00:11:52.020 She's going to get blown out on Super Tuesday. 0.89
00:11:54.120 The numbers on Super Tuesday are even worse than South Carolina.
00:11:56.380 She's not going away because she's the last grip the anti-Trump forces have. 0.99
00:12:02.740 And that's why she's not going to go away.
00:12:04.520 She's saying, oh, but they're fighting for liberty and they're fighting for freedom.
00:12:11.860 No.
00:12:13.380 No.
00:12:14.600 This is a con of Zelensky, the oligarchs over there, the party of Davos, Brussels, and the arms manufacturers.
00:12:20.920 They even said in the – they even said in the Associated Press piece, there's only a plan A.
00:12:29.160 About 10 paragraphs down, of course, the buried lead where, you know, all weekend – because J.D. goes over there.
00:12:36.060 We had J.D. on Saturday.
00:12:37.360 He goes in for Sunday.
00:12:38.360 It's like going to the lion's den.
00:12:39.680 He was saying what you hear in war room every day and they were meltdown.
00:12:42.520 And, oh, my God, how can this guy say this?
00:12:45.680 And then one unnamed arms representative that's over there because it's an arms bazaar, he said, quote, stability is profitable.
00:12:56.300 If you stabilize the situation, send more – everybody makes money.
00:12:59.580 The European – he just said everybody – the European arm manufacturers make money.
00:13:02.540 We'll make money.
00:13:03.100 Everybody make money.
00:13:03.740 You know who understands that?
00:13:08.060 The parents of the – particularly the young men of Ukraine.
00:13:14.040 That's where they got them the hell out of the country.
00:13:15.560 How much of the six – was it six to ten million Ukrainians have left?
00:13:20.880 What percentage of those are young men of fighting age?
00:13:24.620 What percentage of those are the same age groups that are coming here and invading the United States of America, the fighting age males? 1.00
00:13:31.760 A lot.
00:13:33.740 Because they got themselves out or their parents got them out because they don't believe there's going to be a military victory.
00:13:41.140 And they keep talking about, oh, we're going to take these territories back.
00:13:43.760 We're going to take Crimea back. 0.62
00:13:45.500 It's been a dangerous game.
00:13:47.060 You know who's paid for it?
00:13:47.980 The Ukrainian people.
00:13:50.080 They've got a country that looks like Dresden in 45. 0.62
00:13:53.880 They've got – I don't know.
00:13:55.180 We don't even have statistics.
00:13:56.720 They're saying it could be up to a million.
00:13:57.900 It could be up to 500,000 dead just on the Ukrainian side alone or more.
00:14:00.940 It could be a couple of hundred thousand civilians, most of them women and children.
00:14:07.000 The blood ain't on your hands.
00:14:09.360 They're all weekend.
00:14:10.360 It's the MAGA right.
00:14:11.580 It's the MAGA house.
00:14:13.040 It's Trump's people.
00:14:14.920 It's nothing but MAGA.
00:14:16.040 These recalcitrant MAGA, these head in the sand.
00:14:18.740 No.
00:14:19.340 No.
00:14:19.540 You are the anti-anarchy, anti-chaos because that's what the Biden regime – remember, elections have consequences.
00:14:32.780 Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences, and you're seeing it everywhere in the world, whether it's the invasion of this country,
00:14:39.940 the $2 trillion per year in perpetuity deficits that are going to bury this country in every child and grandchild that you've got,
00:14:48.860 and, of course, the kinetic part of the Third World War.
00:14:52.700 We're going to talk about globalization, and we're going to talk about MAGA next in the War Room.
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00:16:18.620 He learned this by presenting himself as a defender of traditional civilization, right?
00:16:24.180 Christianity, orthodox in his case, but anti-LGBTQ rights, anti-transgenderism, anti-decadence of the West.
00:16:31.260 And he's made common cause with a part of the American political system that otherwise in the past was very anti-Russia.
00:16:36.620 When Russia was perceived to be left as a communist nation, now Putin is doing it from the other side on the ultra-right.
00:16:42.040 And he is making common cause in Europe with the various right-wing parties there through this cultural war.
00:16:49.120 In fact, he's doing the same thing we hear in our own domestic politics.
00:16:52.520 It just seems as though only Donald Trump could have energized this pro-Putin part of the Republican establishment.
00:17:00.440 It's so counterintuitive.
00:17:02.760 I mean, Putin is demonized for very good reasons.
00:17:06.000 And maybe the Navalny is murdering, clearly.
00:17:12.920 The establishment missed again.
00:17:14.380 Okay, I wonder if this is Peter Baker.
00:17:15.980 The voice you're hearing is Peter Baker, the lead White House correspondent for the paper of record in this nation, the New York Times.
00:17:24.180 He says the quiet part out loud.
00:17:25.360 Remember, I've been asking this question.
00:17:26.680 Hey, why is it Jamie Raskin's dad?
00:17:29.540 Jamie Raskin's dad is a communist, a Marxist.
00:17:32.480 Self-admit it.
00:17:33.340 Didn't hide it.
00:17:33.920 Pro-Soviet Union.
00:17:36.400 In fact, I think they investigated for being too pro-Soviet Union during the worst days of it.
00:17:40.940 I was there as a grundoon after sea duty in the Pentagon with the chief naval operations and could see this, that this was the beginning of President Reagan's take down the evil empire.
00:17:54.100 And I saw in Europe, in the United States, the huge fight.
00:17:59.880 So they try to gloss over it.
00:18:01.260 They all love President Reagan now.
00:18:02.720 Yeah, they didn't love him.
00:18:03.540 They hated him.
00:18:04.200 Okay, they hated him flat out.
00:18:06.320 And particularly in his takedown of the evil empire.
00:18:09.340 They hated him.
00:18:11.640 So always remember that.
00:18:12.660 You know, his daughter's on yesterday talking about, hey, politics. 0.99
00:18:15.980 You know, Tip O'Neill came to the bed and said, stop the crap. 0.99
00:18:18.820 First of all, the daughter hated him, too. 1.00
00:18:20.300 I mean, the daughter was the worst. 1.00
00:18:21.860 All the stuff she wrote about the mother, just pathetic. 1.00
00:18:24.700 And to see NBC sucking up to her now. 1.00
00:18:27.680 Why? 0.64
00:18:28.360 So she can come out and dump on Donald Trump. 1.00
00:18:30.340 Of course.
00:18:31.020 Naturally.
00:18:31.540 Right?
00:18:32.540 Well, they hated Reagan.
00:18:33.540 And note to self, lady, they hated your dad.
00:18:36.200 Okay?
00:18:38.220 And I say that someone's made a couple of very, I would say this, deep films about President
00:18:44.640 Reagan.
00:18:45.160 We took Peter Schweitzer's book in the, we took Peter Schweitzer's book, Reagan's War,
00:18:50.860 and turned it into a film to talk about specifically for over two hours how President Reagan united
00:18:57.160 the forces of the world to take down the Soviet unions and to crush the Bolsheviks. 0.64
00:19:02.540 And it's always struck me as interesting, why are all the people that hated Reagan and
00:19:07.520 fought it, hell, you had a million people in Central Park, you had millions all over
00:19:12.860 Europe with the Pershing missiles, but the defense shield that they have today, the defense
00:19:17.340 shield that they, oh, Americans can't pull out the nuclear weapons, they can't pull out 0.55
00:19:20.480 the tactical nukes, everything they're begging us and rubbing up on us today, we had to fight
00:19:26.220 to put in there, to take down the Soviets, to make sure the Soviets knew that if you come
00:19:29.640 across the Fulter Gap, if you come across the North, the North German plane, you're going 0.99
00:19:34.540 to be met by some incoming, so don't come.
00:19:38.200 That Soviet army, that Red Army from World War II and from those days, from the 80s, doesn't
00:19:43.140 exist anymore.
00:19:44.380 You've seen that in Ukraine.
00:19:47.120 They couldn't take Kyiv when they first tried to at the beginning, right?
00:19:50.280 Not there.
00:19:52.800 Not happening.
00:19:53.720 And all this hand-wringing and hand-wringing and hand-wringing, it's got to be something
00:19:57.860 else.
00:19:58.760 I want to hear, so I keep asking, how does Jamie Raskin's dad go from loving the Bolsheviks 0.95
00:20:04.040 and rubbing up on the Bolsheviks and wants the Bolsheviks to win, right?
00:20:08.780 How do they then flip and all of a sudden, Russia's the great demon? 0.99
00:20:12.980 Reagan, the same, and remember, it's the exact same people, the exact same people, the
00:20:18.940 exact same crowd that fought Reagan and loved the Soviets and, hey, you know, the missile
00:20:24.260 thing, we have rapprochement, we have to have detente, we have to do all that, and Reagan
00:20:30.080 sits there with his first national security advisor.
00:20:33.200 It was Richard V. Allen, and when they got Richard V. Allen, they said, look, you're going
00:20:38.540 to get the interview to be the national security advisor, and Richard V. Allen was not a big
00:20:41.840 name, they were coming off Kissinger and Brzezinski, so you got Kissinger and Brzezinski, two guys
00:20:48.120 with the foreign accents, the PhDs, the whole Harvard thing, you know, they got two brains,
00:20:52.820 and they know everything about everything that's happened in the world, right?
00:20:55.340 They're a big chess board, and they're these Eastern Europeans, or in Kissinger's case, 1.00
00:21:00.280 a German, and Brzezinski was Polish, that the whole American people had this whole thing
00:21:05.740 like Dr. Strangelove is always the national security advisor, and you got Richard V. Allen,
00:21:10.960 who's a little bit of a country, I thought, a country bumpkin, a tough guy, but not a big
00:21:16.260 name, and so they tell him, he said, look, the last thing Reagan wants, he doesn't want
00:21:20.120 a Brzezinski, he doesn't want a Kissinger, he thinks these guys are, you know, they're
00:21:25.520 too European the way they think, he's got a different attitude on this, and he says, the
00:21:30.380 one thing you should do, make sure if you go in this interview, don't use the word
00:21:33.840 geopolitics, just, just, the, and don't be geostrategic, just be basic, this guy's a
00:21:40.640 basic guy, he doesn't want a lot of highfalutin talk, he's a man of action, and Alan's, Richard
00:21:46.740 V. Allen's in there, and he catches, and he's going, he's very nervous, so he just
00:21:51.140 starts talking, and he notices that Reagan's kind of getting a glazed look, and he's thinking,
00:21:56.980 hey, I'm boring this guy, and he goes, oh my God, I'm about to lose this job, I got
00:22:02.220 this interview, all I got to do is get through it, and I got the job, the biggest job I'll
00:22:05.960 ever have, and I'm about to screw it up, and he hears the words, I think he hears the words
00:22:10.100 geopolitical come across his lip, and he knows he's in trouble, and he full stops, stop, stop,
00:22:17.720 he goes, Mr. President-elect, you know, I've been here, I'm quite nervous, and I've just
00:22:21.560 been talking, I really, I'm most interested in what your strategy is against the
00:22:26.880 Soviet Union, because that's the biggest thing we had at the time, and Reagan goes,
00:22:31.000 Dick, how about this, we win, and they lose, and Ronald Reagan took them down, Ronald Reagan
00:22:41.740 took them down, Ronald Reagan took them down, now why is it everybody that fought Reagan that
00:22:48.900 entire time, remember he was going to do Star Wars, and Sagan and those guys mocked and ridiculed
00:22:54.900 him, that he thought, Reagan did that to bury them financially, understanding that their
00:23:00.660 military-industrial complex was so far in back of ours, in fact, when he first got there,
00:23:05.400 talk about budgets, this is Kissinger in that crowd, for years and years and years, it was
00:23:11.260 the Thucydides trap, the same scam they pulled on China with us here, that we're the declining 0.93
00:23:16.320 power, they're the rising power, Athens and Sparta, the Peloponnesian War, we're the declining
00:23:20.660 power, they're the rising power, and so when Reagan first got there, he got a Team B, and
00:23:25.880 they had done some more assessments, but they had Bill Casey, who was a piece of work, over
00:23:31.220 at, you know, he was kind of a, what I call a deal lawyer, he was running the CIA, and
00:23:35.680 they got him to do an analysis of the Russian economy, and it came back that the Russian,
00:23:41.860 oops, we've made a mistake historically, we were extrapolating off bad numbers, you see this
00:23:48.800 all the time, we're extrapolating off of bad, bad decisions, bad analysis, 20 years ago,
00:23:53.140 10 years ago, and we extrapolated off that, and the Soviet economy is not actually bigger
00:23:57.140 than ours, and it's not growing faster than ours, it's actually, you know, a third, it's
00:24:03.300 only a third of ours, or something, some number that was, it was a humongous miss, and Reagan's
00:24:08.700 sitting there, they would always mock Reagan, not being that smart, and Reagan goes, hang
00:24:11.240 over a second, let me, let me see that again, he looks at it, he goes, he says, well,
00:24:14.720 gosh, this economy's not even as big as California, and I was just the governor there, so how big
00:24:22.580 a threat are these guys going to be, it was like, ooh, that's when Reagan said, okay, let's
00:24:26.500 drop the hammer on these bros, let's do it, and it was done, it was done, we win, they lose,
00:24:34.720 that's the attitude, quite simple, very American, and it worked, and people rallied to it, well,
00:24:41.380 the forces that fought him, Jamie Raskin's dad, and all these guys, all the Bolshevik 1.00
00:24:47.580 lovers, how did that flip, let's play Peter Baker again, you're going to get, you're going
00:24:53.080 to get Peter Baker of the New York Times, not Breitbart, not Citizens Free Press, not the
00:24:59.360 Boys Over Gateway Pundit, not Darren Beattie, not the War Room, Peter Baker, lead correspondent
00:25:04.240 for the New York Times, says the quiet part out loud, let's hear it.
00:25:07.860 Just a perhaps predictable reaction against the forces of globalization that swept through
00:25:15.160 us during the 80s and 90s, but left, and the oughts perhaps, but left people behind, and
00:25:21.900 so you had a conglomeration of people who felt that they hadn't benefited from globalization,
00:25:26.940 you saw this spread of inequality in Europe and in the United States, and this is a kickback
00:25:31.960 against that with charismatic leaders who say, look, I'm out for you, I'm out for the little
00:25:36.740 guy, whether you are from the left or from the right, doesn't matter, it's the little
00:25:39.660 guy against the big guy, it's the little guy against the establishment.
00:25:42.460 That is a common thread, and there are three things that unite this movement, you know,
00:25:46.920 across countries, it is a hostility to trade, a feeling that globalization has gone too far,
00:25:52.280 it's a hostility to migration, and a feeling that there's too much mixing, particularly of
00:25:56.680 the regular kind, and a fear also of the hegemonic left and what that's become.
00:26:00.120 It almost came after NAFTA here in the United States, the reaction, the anti-globalist beginnings
00:26:08.100 of that, and the irony is that you hear from agricultural people, farmers as well as big
00:26:14.300 agriculture, and big business, that they need migration, they need labor. We're developing a
00:26:21.240 labor shortage here, actually, in the United States, but the border issue is certainly,
00:26:26.700 the immigration issue has the most compelling force behind it. It doesn't make economic 0.92
00:26:31.320 sense.
00:26:31.660 What's so fascinating to me is how it gets tied up with the pro-Russia thing, because
00:26:34.920 I understand the migration thing, I understand the nationalism, I understand, you know, the
00:26:38.380 people have got left behind, but I don't really get the bit about where this gets tied in
00:26:42.280 with, well, that makes us supporters of...
00:26:44.200 I mean, Putin has appeared to this by presenting himself as a defender of traditional civilization,
00:26:49.520 right? Christianity, orthodox in his case, but anti-LGBTQ rights, anti-transgenderism,
00:26:55.600 anti-decadence of the West, and he's made common cause with a part of the American political
00:27:00.040 system that otherwise in the past was very anti-Russia, when Russia was perceived to be
00:27:03.960 left as a communist nation. Now Putin is doing it from the other side on the ultra-right,
00:27:08.340 and he is making common cause in Europe with the various right-wing parties there through
00:27:14.080 this cultural war. In fact, he's doing the same thing we hear in our own domestic politics.
00:27:18.580 It just seems as though only Donald Trump could have energized this pro-Putin part of the
00:27:24.880 Republican establishment. It's so counterintuitive.
00:27:28.280 It's not. I mean, Putin...
00:27:29.960 It's not counterintuitive, lady. You're just dumb. I always... We try to watch her. We 1.00
00:27:35.520 monitor her full-time, but we've got to watch Andrea Mitchell. She's sitting there, and she's 0.97
00:27:40.000 the mouthpiece of the conventional wisdom. You want to see how bankrupt the conventional wisdom
00:27:44.240 is? Just watch Andrea Mitchell every day. You'll get it. You'll get it in spades.
00:27:48.580 These people are moronic. But Peter Baker said the quiet part out loud there. Wow. New 1.00
00:27:58.560 York Times talking truth to power. Short commercial break. We're going to be back in a moment in the
00:28:05.060 morning.
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00:29:44.100 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:48.200 Okay, we had a slight technical problem, I think, over at Getter in Rumble. I think
00:29:52.220 we have that fixed. By the way, if that happens, make sure you get to Grace and Moe,
00:29:58.720 or if you get a direct thing to REV, our producer, make sure you give us a heads up,
00:30:02.580 and we will get right on. I think it was a slight glitch. I think we've worked it out on
00:30:06.280 President's Day. Of course, we're here at work, obviously. President's Day, incredibly
00:30:12.020 important, as I've said, and I have a deep-seated belief on this, only a third time in American
00:30:18.860 history. You had General Washington, you've had Abraham Lincoln, and you've had now Donald
00:30:25.340 Trump, only three times in the history of this country. Has the fate of one individual
00:30:30.560 been inextricably linked to the fate and destiny of this republic? And that's pretty obvious.
00:30:37.860 Even as much resistance as President Reagan got, and he got as much resistance inside the
00:30:44.220 White House with the Bush forces, led by Jim Baker, right? Totally corrupt. Oh, these guys, 0.92
00:30:51.100 he's a man of Washington, and these are all big business guys, and they're lawyers for big
00:30:55.200 business. Yeah, they're lawyers just like the Dulles brothers over at Sullivan and Cromwell.
00:31:00.620 Did such a great job pre-World War II with the German industry. That whole deal hasn't even been
00:31:06.340 explained. How kids from Kansas, I want you to think about this. Watch 12 O'Clock Hour. You can see
00:31:13.240 Masters of the Air now. How kids from Kansas and Kentucky and Virginia and Illinois and New York City,
00:31:18.580 Los Angeles, how these guys in the Eighth Air Force, because the Brits wouldn't do precision
00:31:24.900 daylight bombing because the casualties were too high. I'm not picking on the Brits. The Brits are
00:31:29.920 also very resistant to D-Day and delayed it forever and ever. Why? They've taken such mass
00:31:35.660 casualties in World War I. World War I left such a deep scar on the French people and the German
00:31:42.000 people, excuse me, the French people and the British, obviously the Germans too, but left such a deep
00:31:47.220 scar. They wanted to stay away from what's called the first day at the Somme where they lost,
00:31:53.820 I don't know what it was, 40,000. It was some unbelievable in the churnal house of that one 1.00
00:31:58.540 day that the British couldn't take it anymore. But you've got all that. The whole point is to
00:32:05.380 bomb German industry and then later to bomb Japanese industry back into the Stone Age, 0.99
00:32:10.800 to destroy the industrial base of German, the German war machine and Imperial Japan,
00:32:17.940 its war machine. So isn't it interesting that, and this is just the way it is, that the same
00:32:26.040 folks basically that run the industrial power, the seven samurai families that run the trading
00:32:32.440 companies that ran the industrial part of Japan, pre-war that really were the guys that really
00:32:37.800 drove the war in Imperial Japan, the Asian co-prosperity sphere, the same guys that provided 0.99
00:32:48.080 all the material and drove the political system, really controlled the political system and controlled
00:32:52.100 really the emperor. Those same samurai families of the trading companies that controlled Japan
00:32:58.660 today, no change was done pre-war, post-war, same guys, same families, same industrial power,
00:33:04.520 same in Germany. You ever ask that question? Hey, why did kids in Kansas, why did we have D-Day?
00:33:10.380 Why did folks die in all this horror and tragedy? And why did all this happen? Why did all this happen
00:33:22.180 in the same deal before and after? Because it was the same deal before and after.
00:33:27.200 Oh yeah, by the way, and the Dulles brothers and the Sullivan and Cromwell firms and all the law
00:33:33.020 firms and all the banks, everybody lent to them, same, same, same, same, same, same, same, same.
00:33:42.240 You got to get down and start breaking apart the administrative state. That's what I said on CPAC
00:33:46.180 in 17, we're coming up on, what is this, the seventh year of that? Seven years ago. Maybe we can play
00:33:52.540 that clip later in the show. I said the three things of President Trump was one, a new national security,
00:33:57.040 effort, led by making sure NATO was not a protectorate, but was a real alliance, and focusing
00:34:03.180 on taking down or confronting the Chinese Communist Party, and of all places, wow, the South China
00:34:10.160 Sea. Pretty pressing it there, young man. Number two, I said a national, economic nationalism,
00:34:17.060 going to bring jobs back to the United States and restrict immigration and make sure, as Andrea 1.00
00:34:21.060 Mitchell just said back there, well, they need migrants because they need the jobs. We need 0.55
00:34:25.800 migrants because we need the jobs. That's the mantra of the ruling class. We need the invasion 0.99
00:34:30.120 of 10 million, because the working class Hispanics and blacks and the whites are not working hard 1.00
00:34:36.720 enough. They're not good enough. We need an infusion of energy here. So that was number two, I said, 0.99
00:34:43.600 and number three, the focus of President Trump is the deconstruction of the administrative state.
00:34:49.820 And all the media, I had a thousand media back there, they're all watching, Reince and I are up
00:34:53.320 there with Matt Schlapp, and all these guys sitting there, what did Bennett just say? Administrative
00:34:56.980 what? What? Who? What? What? All the folks at CPAC, all MAGA, as I say in those red ball caps
00:35:04.200 and bib overalls, they're up high-fiving. You don't have to tell them, they get it. They're ahead of the
00:35:10.560 elites in this country. Not just plenty smart, real smart. Just give them the information,
00:35:15.880 real smart. I'll take, if you gave me a choice between a combination of the partners of Sullivan
00:35:23.360 and Cromwell, McKinsey and Goldman Sachs, mix it all up in a bowl, give me 100, versus the first 100
00:35:29.720 people that walk in to CPAC in a red ball cap, I'll take the red ball caps. I'll take the red ball
00:35:37.480 caps because that will, that will make sure that, that will make sure that we have a country that's
00:35:44.280 got common sense, decency, and humanity. To tell you how far it's gone, Michael Benz,
00:35:52.360 Mike Benz joins us. Mike was an official in the first Trump term. He and Darren Beattie did some
00:35:57.920 amazing, amazing work afterwards. He continues on. Benz, I got to tell you, the interview that
00:36:05.260 Tucker Carlson did with you was, and I thought the interview he did with Putin was pretty daggone
00:36:10.180 good, particularly getting some economic stuff and some other stuff. I liked it a lot. I really
00:36:14.180 liked it, particularly the history and all that, and I realized they're all over Tucker. But the
00:36:18.040 interview he did with you, I believe, is the best interview Tucker's done since he's gone out in
00:36:23.200 the new platform, sir. Now, why would Benz, tell me, why would Steve Bannon say that?
00:36:30.540 I can only guess. I'm curious to actually hear what parts of it, you know, you thought were most
00:36:36.900 effective. You know, it was really, really kind of amazing, I think, the colloquy we were able to
00:36:42.480 have to kind of paint the broad picture of the shape of the beast we're up against. You know,
00:36:49.620 from my perspective, these are all things that I've said hundreds, thousands of times over
00:36:54.460 almost seven, eight years now. But to be able to have it all in one shot, I think, was very
00:37:01.060 effective so that you're not sort of getting it all chapter by chapter.
00:37:04.960 Just give me your, let's walk through, because we'll take some time here today. We're going to
00:37:09.540 have some people tucking in and out, but just give us your theory. We've got about six minutes,
00:37:13.860 seven minutes in this block. Give me your theory of the case. You're just taking a run with it. What is
00:37:17.580 Mike Benz's theory of the case of what has happened to our beloved country?
00:37:22.860 Well, there is basically an immune system of permanent Washington, which is comprised of the,
00:37:28.700 you know, at the top, you have the foreign policy establishment, the national security state,
00:37:33.400 the corporate and financial donors and drafters off of it, and the political opportunists on both
00:37:37.820 sides of the political aisle. And, you know, the way that I essentially see the framing of this issue
00:37:44.820 is the managers of the American empire versus the citizens of the American homeland. We've had for,
00:37:54.180 you know, since we became an empire, you could argue, in 1898 when we won the Spanish-American
00:38:00.260 War and took the Philippines and became this overseas empire with territory to protect.
00:38:05.880 And you could argue, even going back to 1823, you know, with the Monroe Doctrine and our forays into
00:38:12.600 into Latin and South America, that American industry was always sort of an international
00:38:18.600 enterprise. And you do need a full-throated, red-blooded, brass-knuckled foreign policy
00:38:25.600 establishment to be able to protect U.S. national champions who have businesses abroad. The issue
00:38:30.600 is, even though that was effectively magical for America to develop its middle class during the
00:38:37.340 20th century, by the 1990s, globalism started to break down as our manufacturing miracle was reduced
00:38:44.640 to a rust belt, as the Chamber of Commerce companies that benefited so much from globalism under the
00:38:51.740 protection of the Pentagon, the State Department, the CIA, and other intelligence agencies, as there
00:38:57.260 began to be a split between the welfare of our globalist institutions and the citizens of the nation
00:39:04.940 that they were supposed to be trickling wealth down to and serving at the electoral level.
00:39:11.820 There became essentially the growth of populist opposition, which is, you know, populism is not
00:39:18.060 a dirty word. Populism is the recourse to corrupt or to institutions that have gone astray.
00:39:27.340 And the issue, as I see it, is not Republican versus Democrat or conservative versus liberal.
00:39:32.200 Those are things that can turn with the tides. What we have right now is a foreign policy
00:39:37.160 establishment, which is imbued with a Department of Dirty Tricks, things that they are, that we've
00:39:42.600 allowed them for a century to do abroad to foreign governments and foreign citizens and foreign
00:39:48.360 institutions, turning that inward. And so you have the foreign policy establishment against populism,
00:39:57.480 both here and all across NATO, in the UK with the Brexit folks, in Italy with the Matteo Salvini
00:40:04.280 folks, in Spain with the Vox Party, in Greece and Germany with the AFD Party. This is, you know,
00:40:10.280 all across the board, there's been a rise of populist groups, also on the left, I should add.
00:40:15.160 And in each case where they are threatened by the foreign policy establishment, the democracy has now been
00:40:21.160 effectively completely destroyed because you have an immune system such as a justice department that
00:40:27.080 will be weaponized to arrest any populist leader who rises to power or a lawfare system that will
00:40:32.120 bankrupt them, police who won't protect their meetings. You have the silencing all across social
00:40:38.840 media, gag orders placed as they're being put on trial so that they can't even defend themselves,
00:40:45.560 their lawyers being arrested. You know, Steve, you being targeted. It's, it's one of these things
00:40:51.480 where there was always the relationship between the managers of the American empire and the citizens
00:40:58.760 of the American homeland is broken down. And that has played itself out in the story of the censorship
00:41:02.760 industry, which I really see as my mission for the story to tell. Now, the censorship industry,
00:41:09.800 you're saying is actually an offshoot of, it's a combination of the administrative state,
00:41:16.040 the actual functions of national security and intelligence and law enforcement in the American
00:41:20.520 administrative state and big tech outside, correct? It's a combination. It's a private,
00:41:26.760 it's a public private partnership. It's a great way to put it. Yes. You know,
00:41:31.160 now the term that they use is whole of society. There's a whole of society counter mis-dis and
00:41:36.040 malinformation network that they, uh, now this is, this is their terminology. And what it,
00:41:40.760 what it means is it takes four separate classes of institutions, federal government agencies,
00:41:47.000 private sector companies, civil society institutions, and media and fact checking groups,
00:41:52.360 and has them all working as a synchronized network to be able to censor emerging narratives
00:41:56.840 or political groups who, who essentially pose a political challenge for the foreign policy establishment.
00:42:02.120 And those, those private sector institutions, I mean, I can go on at that length,
00:42:06.840 but I'll look like you were going to, yeah, no, hang on for one second. Cause I want to,
00:42:10.680 I want to take it. We're going to take a break here and come back. I want to break it down. I want
00:42:13.400 to talk about CPAC. Uh, we want a, uh, a big turnout at CPAC. So we still got the tickets under a hundred
00:42:21.560 bucks. CPAC.org slash war room. You get a $95 ticket. When you get that ticket,
00:42:27.960 you can then go to war room.org events, go to our website and sign up for, uh,
00:42:33.400 the force multiplier Academy. We're going to have a huge range of folks. You see Harris contributors,
00:42:40.360 you get to meet them in the flesh. They're also going to talk to you about how to make CPAC the
00:42:45.080 best you've ever gone to, but more importantly, how coming out of this, we're united like a fist.
00:42:50.440 So the, for the, for the final drive, uh, between now and election day, we are fighting as one unit.
00:42:57.880 Uh, it's quite important. So you're going to have many of the contributors that you've seen,
00:43:01.560 plus grace, Mo, uh, you know, Natalie, Jane, everybody's going to be there and you get a free
00:43:07.720 lunch. How about that? Say no such thing as a free lunch. That's not true. You come to the force
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00:43:20.520 And then, uh, go to war room.org to events. Make sure you sign up for it. Uh,
00:43:25.560 Grace and Mo will check you out and then, um, and then, uh, we'll go. It's going to be fantastic.
00:43:30.600 I will be there maybe even as the master ceremonies. How's that? How about that?
00:43:34.600 Short commercial break back with Mike Benz in just a moment.
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00:45:42.240 You created a bit of a firestorm in Washington this week when you sounded the alarm
00:45:50.080 about the national security threat related to a Russian anti-satellite weapon. The New York Times
00:45:55.840 is now reporting that the concern is whether Russia might put a real nuclear weapon in space.
00:46:02.000 Based on the intelligence you have seen, how serious is the threat?
00:46:06.000 Well, the threat is very serious. Everyone who's looked at it uses the same language that I have,
00:46:12.800 that it is a very serious threat. I'm very glad that the administration is beginning to take action.
00:46:17.920 We met with Jake Sullivan.
00:46:19.520 Okay. This guy is a total complete liar. Okay. He did this. This is all about his buddies in Ukraine. 1.00
00:46:26.720 He had just been over there seeing Zelensky rubbing up on, you know, rubbing up on Zelensky.
00:46:31.760 This was all to try to scare this audience and say, oh gosh, you know, maybe we should give the 60 billion to Ukraine.
00:46:40.240 Benj, you see this all the time. This is a perfect example of using a useful idiot like Turner to put out what the deep state wants to put out 0.99
00:46:48.080 because the deep state's got so many dark secrets in Ukraine that they got to keep the grift going. 0.99
00:46:53.360 Are people, if they don't get the money, they're going to start spilling the beans, bro.
00:46:57.120 So walk me through the Turner incident of last week as a classic example of what you've warned us about.
00:47:02.800 Yeah. Well, this is really the GOP civil war between the populist and the globalist side of the GOP playing out in real time.
00:47:11.200 You know, this is why we were sort of teeing this up in the last segment on this is not Republican versus Democrat or conservative versus liberal.
00:47:19.920 It's foreign policy establishment versus populism.
00:47:22.180 You see, there's the U.S. The GOP for a century now has essentially drawn its political strength and its representation in Washington
00:47:36.740 as being essentially sponsored by military energy and chamber of commerce backers.
00:47:45.940 That is, the military industrial complex was primarily a Republican institution in the 20th century with our essentially our production facilities in California and Texas.
00:48:04.740 And you had the energy, the oil and gas companies, which were the largest companies in the world for the 20th century.
00:48:12.940 And until big tech essentially matured in the 2010s, all the major top 10 market size corporations were oil and gas companies.
00:48:25.040 And you had the sort of chamber of commerce blue chips that primarily supported Republicans because Republicans were for low taxes.
00:48:34.680 They were for free markets and free enterprise.
00:48:36.740 And they exported those values abroad, which meant that there was a powerful Pentagon State Department and intelligence apparatus to be able to ensure territorial control over resources in countries who were exercising resource nationalism that might box out our big oil and gas companies or private companies selling goods and services to foreign markets.
00:49:00.240 And that was something where there was, I think there was some synchronicity between the globalist and the nationalist side of the GOP during the 20th century, again, until globalism really started to erode that synchronicity.
00:49:16.620 And what you have now is the major party establishment in Congress for the GOP is still on the globalist side, but you have this growing faction and by far the most popular faction at the base level that is for populism.
00:49:32.680 So, again, you have this divide where you have Turner representing essentially the managers of the American homeland and you have the populist side of the GOP representing the people who live here.
00:49:46.940 I'm sorry, Turner representing the empire essentially and the populist representing the homeland.
00:49:52.540 And you have this divide where now there's so much money that goes to the managers of the empire and none of it comes back home to us.
00:50:00.220 You know, we have, what, $20 trillion in debt and our PISA scores are falling way behind even second world countries.
00:50:07.800 El Salvador has a better murder rate than any of our major cities.
00:50:12.300 It's, you know, we're falling apart and the people and what remaining wealth that we have is being used to go straight into the coffers of peoples whose interests are all international, not actually for the people who live here.
00:50:26.320 And so, you know, the issue is, is Washington is controlled by the empire forces, not by the forces of the homeland.
00:50:32.960 And, you know, Trump's election in 2016 was really the first time that the foreign policy establishment had its back broken at the electoral level by a populist surge.
00:50:46.440 I think they would have done this to Bernie Sanders, too, because he also wanted to roll back before he, I would say, bent the knee.
00:50:53.780 He, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he bent, he's all, it's a, it's a, it's a pillow fight with him.
00:50:59.460 He took on the Clinton apparatus.
00:51:00.700 Clintons were the epitome of this, the empire managers, right? 0.98
00:51:05.520 Both Democrats, the Bushes and the Clintons, those two apparatuses that have been involved in every election, I don't know, for 40 years.
00:51:10.700 It's, is that Bernie Sanders, if you're going to go, if you're going to go for the king, you got to go for a head wound.
00:51:17.460 And he just, he's a, he's a, he's a lot, he just yammers on, yammers on, yammers on, right?
00:51:22.940 And the Bernie, he's not going to do anything if Bernie Sanders is going to take on the deep state.
00:51:25.840 You think Bernie Sanders is going to take on the administrative state?
00:51:27.920 You need a beast.
00:51:29.460 That's what Trump was.
00:51:30.560 Trump went to beast mode.
00:51:31.800 Okay, and as you know, Mike, you were there.
00:51:35.740 And this is why they had what I call the nullification project started immediately.
00:51:40.760 This whole nonsense with the Russian collusion.
00:51:43.640 Now we know what 26 of us, 26 of us were, were not just targeted by Brennan, but Brennan then farmed it out to the five eyes, to his five eye buddies to make sure that Trump's inner circle was completely monitored.
00:51:57.820 Mike, just hang her for one second. 1.00
00:51:59.140 I want to keep you around. 0.67
00:51:59.840 This is quite profound.
00:52:02.060 The interview with Tucker was a landmark.
00:52:04.480 If anybody's got the time, you definitely should watch it.
00:52:06.500 It's incredible.
00:52:07.520 We've got Mike Benz here, one of the officials from Trump's first term, and by God, he's got to be a senior guy in the second term.
00:52:16.380 So we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:52:17.640 We're going to make sure, look, when we talk about the post-war international rules-based order, it's not just the national security state, but it's underpinned, as Putin was so nice to point out, by the U.S. dollar.
00:52:29.840 This is why you've got to go to birchgold.com right now.
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00:52:43.220 We're coming out with the fifth installment.
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00:53:36.420 Short commercial break.
00:53:37.560 Mike Benz on the other side.
00:53:38.860 90 second break.
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