In this episode, we take a look at the case of Fonnie Williams v. Georgia State Attorney General Mike Williams, who was found guilty of conspiracy to commit perjury and conspiracy to obstruct justice in a corruption case involving a church and money.
00:00:00.000The state more than 100 years ago, 1915, the most recent Registe A.B. State in the Supreme Court in 2010, although they don't refer to Caesar's wife.
00:00:08.920That requirement is also embedded in the prosecutor's statutory oath, 15-18-2, which requires impartially and without fear or favor, discharge my duties as district attorney and take only my lawful compensation, so help me God.
00:00:23.840Now, the general rule on conflicts of interest for lawyers is in Rule of Professional Conduct 1.7, and we all know, it's all drummed into us, that we cannot have a conflict of interest.
00:00:36.700And if we do, we have to withdraw or we will be disqualified.
00:00:40.620The basic idea is that a conflict of interest impairs the lawyer's independent professional judgment.
00:00:47.460That's the test of a conflict and whether it can be waived and whether it's disqualifying.
00:00:52.760And that conflict is not just financial.
00:00:56.940It can be any conflict that impairs your independent professional judgment, and you see that in McLaughlin v. Payne.
00:01:03.280The court asked what was a personal interest for purposes of disqualification.
00:01:07.900It's anything that impairs professional judgment.
00:01:10.060That's reflected in the ABA standards that were quoted by Mr. Merchant, which list the prosecutor's personal, political, financial, professional, business, property, or other interests or relationships.
00:01:23.900And that's really embedded in the prosecutor's oath to act impartially.
00:01:27.340And the earlier disqualification order by Judge McBurney was based on political interests, not financial.
00:01:34.960What my colleagues have described as forensic misconduct is also cognizable as a conflict of interest based on that footnote in Williams' case.
00:01:42.700The root of all of the problems that we see in this court right now is a conflict of interest arising from their individual personal interests in perpetuating and concealing their relationship.
00:01:54.960That's the original sin from which all of the other problems flow.
00:01:58.240There are six different actual conflicts of interest in this case, any one of which warrants disqualification, but collectively, practically compelled.
00:02:07.220First, the financial conflict that's already been covered.
00:02:10.200Second, the personal ambition, political ambition.
00:02:14.360Third, there's a dovetailed or complementary pattern of deceit and concealment of the relationship and the money.
00:06:35.500I mean, look, they're sucking their thumbs in the fetal position because of the Supreme Court ruling.
00:06:41.160And, I mean, it's a complete meltdown because they know this is law of fairness, election interference.
00:06:46.660Isn't it offensive that Jack Smith's actually trying to push for a July trial date here,
00:06:52.720given there's so many motions, all the classified material, there's so much to go through, ma'am?
00:06:57.640Yes, because, Stephen, I kind of tweeted this yesterday.
00:07:00.760I'm like, but they stopped filing motions on the classified documents docket in Florida.
00:07:06.860It's impossible to keep up because they just have this flurry of motions going back and forth.
00:07:12.100And this was one reason Judge Cannon said we have 13 outstanding motions right now,
00:07:17.320including what we'll talk about a little bit, this bombshell motion to compel discovery.
00:07:22.740But these are also motions to dismiss based on the Presidential Records Act,
00:07:26.700based on immunity, based on selective prosecution.
00:07:30.600So they have to go back and forth on all those motions, too, not the least of which, too, is what they call CIPA,
00:07:37.040which is Classified Information Procedures Act that attempts to keep materials away from people accused of mishandling classified documents,
00:07:46.480including the former president whose documents were created during his administration.
00:07:52.280So there are very complicated issues related to the classified documents case that you didn't see in Washington, D.C.,
00:07:59.280which is why, Steve, even though the indictment in Washington came after the classified documents indictment,
00:08:06.100Jack Smith, along with Judge Tanya Chutkin, the Obama appointee in Washington tasked with this case,
00:08:12.260leapfrogged over Judge Cannon and set this March 4th trial date, now vacated, over Judge Cannon's May 20th trial date.
00:08:21.180They were pushing to get the D.C. case to trial first.
00:09:24.000But MSNBC, Weissman, Neal Katja, all the whole, this is all they talk about.
00:09:31.160It's the pulling a hair and gnashing a teeth every second of every day.
00:09:34.220Now they're putting up polls saying the 64 percent of the American people need to know if he's really guilty of insurrection before they vote in November.
00:09:45.020Unfortunately, they're not charging him with insurrection, are they, Julie Kelly?
00:10:01.320The week before they have oral arguments in the Supreme Court on the immunity matter, the week before, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments to reverse how the DOJ has applied 1512C to obstruction of an official proceeding, which represents half of Jack's misindictment.
00:10:16.220If the Supreme Court comes back before they make a decision on the presidential immunity issue and they reverse and they say, which they should, that the DOJ has intentionally misinterpreted that statute, applied it to more than 330 J-6ers and Donald Trump.
00:10:32.160This is not how it's supposed to be applied.
00:10:34.040It's a document shredding corporate fraud statute.
00:10:37.380Half of Jack's misindictment will be gone.
00:10:39.900He's going to go to trial in Washington in, what, September on two conspiracy counts?
00:10:44.280I mean, it just becomes more lackable by the day.
00:11:17.360They need to bring perjury charges against her, against Nathan Wade and Terrence Bradley, who is Nathan Wade's law partner, one-time law partner, allegedly represented him in the divorce.
00:11:28.260They have misrepresented, not only have they lied under oath, all of them have lied in court filings, misdeceived the court.
00:11:37.680And this relates to Nathan Wade's divorce case, which is how this all originated.
00:11:43.000They'll be lucky if all three of them don't end up in jail, disbarred and in jail, for what they have done to the other attorneys in this case,
00:11:51.720and certainly all of the defendants, including people like Mike Roman, Jeffrey Clark, and, of course, Donald Trump.
00:11:59.680Last thing, on J6, I keep seeing, are judges now looking at some of the charges about J6ers and reversing these?
00:12:06.000It looks like a lot of activity in the J6 situation.
00:12:10.320We couldn't have our devices in the courtroom today, so I'm just catching up with an appellate court decision that has now overturned how the DOJ and several D.C. judges have applied this administration of justice enhancement to obstruction of beneficial proceeding sentences.
00:12:27.580This means that the DOJ went to the judges, said, when they're determining how long someone should be sentenced to prison for a conviction or plea, said, okay, we need to add this administration of justice.
00:12:38.600Because they also interfered in a congressional proceeding, this enhancement, sentencing enhancement, upward departure, should apply.
00:12:47.680So, Dave, I don't even know, dozens, I mean, I think we have over 100 prison sentences for people convicted of 1512C2.
00:12:56.320So, they basically said, this has to do with a judicial proceeding.
00:13:00.400This doesn't have to apply to a congressional proceeding, which will be part of the argument in the Supreme Court about 1512C2 and the joint session of Congress.
00:13:09.820I know this is getting kind of woody, but the fact of the matter, Steve, is not only are Trump's cases unraveling, the entire J6 prosecution.
00:13:19.160This is the second time in appellate court, and these are three Democrat judges, by the way.
00:13:24.040This is the second time an appellate court has come back and said, this Department of Justice, Matthew Braves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, and numerous D.C. judges have unlawfully applied sentences to J6ers.
00:13:37.400They did this before in a petty offense.
00:13:40.420When judges were handing down prison and probation time, the appellate court came back and said, no, no, no.
00:13:45.680This is a petty offense, a low-level misdemeanor.
00:13:48.420You pick prison or probation, not both, so they overturned that, and now they're saying how DOJ and these judges have enhanced sentences under administration of justice is illegal.
00:14:02.980Julie, where do people go to get all your information?
00:14:07.060After 1512C2 comes down, if SCOTUS reverses it, we have to call for the defunding, dismantling, and shutting down of the D.C. federal courthouse completely.
00:16:25.680The court asked about burdens and inferences.
00:16:28.760The court can draw a negative inference from the state's failure to produce evidence to support the invisible magic cash balancing theory based on State V. Thomas, 311 Georgia, 407, particularly footnote 19.
00:16:42.060As to the timing question that the court asked about, there were two contracts for Mr. Wade executed after they acknowledged the relationship began, each one of them afflicted or conflicted under county and common law.
00:16:58.660The second conflict is her political ambition, for which she was previously chastised by Judge McBurney.
00:17:07.920The inside flap of this book says that they were given, quote, exclusive access to thousands of secret documents, emails, text messages, and audio recordings.
00:17:17.880The court has twice denied defense motions to unseal special purpose grand jury materials.
00:17:24.700She helped herself to get the glory of this book.
00:17:28.600I entered in certified copies of a number of county code sections.
00:17:31.940I'm not going to walk through those, but I'll tell you why they matter.
00:17:34.700The stack of law from the state constitution down to the county ordinances imposes a regime on the DA under which she has three obligations.
00:17:43.540Okay, we're going to come back to that.
00:17:57.780I've followed Citizens Free Press for a long, long time.
00:18:01.400I don't think, and you're one of the go-to, you're our drudge.
00:18:05.220You're one of the go-to news aggregators for MAGA.
00:18:10.240I have never seen your stack like this ever.
00:18:13.660It's an incredible day, and I want you to explain to the audience what happened to inspire Cain, who curates the news seven days a week, 365 days a year, or this year, 366 days.
00:18:26.300Tell us what inspired you to put up the stack as you have it today.
00:18:38.200I mean, if you want to know the truth, you don't want to get into the psychology of me.
00:18:42.540You don't want to get into the brain because when you do, you want to know what caused it because I felt like the stack was weak all day, right?
00:18:49.400Because I was sucked into the vortex of the Fannie Willis hearing and the Judge Cannon hearing in Fort Pierce, right?
00:18:55.700And if I'm sucked into the vortex of something, what does that mean?
00:18:59.640It means there are fewer headlines, fewer links, right?
00:19:02.820And you see the stack today turned into sort of a – I was just linking because nobody had the highlights.
00:20:16.520No, it's a historic – one thing before we pivot to the historic nature of this and the process and the flow is I knew it was bad when MSNBC, which we're curating, all of a sudden they go back to Katie Turr.
00:20:31.440And Katie Turr goes, it's kind of painful to watch this guy.
00:20:34.560Is that the best – I mean, she actually said, is this the best the office has?
00:20:39.280Because she just saw four – it was like a battleship.
00:20:42.880The Trump, Clark, and Mike Roman lawyers just unleashed like I've never seen – first off, she will never recover from this.
00:21:41.500Tell me why you were so – what has happened that's historic and what's in front of us that inspired you to say, hey, I'm doing the stack totally differently.
00:21:48.740I'm going to send – I'm going to tell MAGA what this inflection point is.
00:22:04.440I didn't see Katie Turr, but it was awful, Steve.
00:22:07.300I mean, you see that headline I've got that he proved – that Adam Abate proves that no great lawyer becomes a Fulton County prosecutor.
00:22:13.740I mean, they were scraping the bottom of the barrel, and he's got to be the best they have.
00:22:20.240You know, Fannie and Nathan are not – assuming they were going to make it to the RICO trial, they weren't going to argue any of it.
00:22:26.840And so Adam is the best they have, which it's – you know, and as you said, they were howitzers from the Trump lawyers.
00:22:34.580This was unlike the previous days of testimony completely when they were having to fight witnesses and fight objections from the defense, and there was no theme to it.
00:22:44.700Today was all theme, and it was beautiful.
00:22:47.100Now, what inspired – why am I so optimistic?
00:22:49.540Well, I'm just seeing these things happening.
00:22:52.700You know, look, it's still not a guarantee.
00:22:55.020We saw Jack Smith say in Fort Pierce today that the DOJ rule only applies to indictment and beginning of the case.
00:23:18.620You know, it's one of the most important sites out there for just pure aggregation.
00:23:21.900Unlike Gateway Pundit or Revolver, they don't do a lot of – they don't really aggregate, even like Breitbart, to write stories about the aggregation and connect that.
00:23:42.180We're also going to do some pregame for the rally for the nurse, Nurse Riley, the nursing student in Atlanta that was brutally murdered by an illegal alien pervert.
00:23:55.480But, you know, we roll through next Tuesday, which is Super Tuesday.
00:23:58.520I don't think President Trump's actually going to do anything Sunday or Monday.
00:24:22.360I couldn't tell we were off, so I kept talking for a while.
00:24:25.120But what I was leading to is, you know, I talked about how bad the prosecutor was, how the Trump – excuse me, how the defense attorney for Fannie was, how the Trump team, they had a theme.
00:24:36.260There was – you know, the arguments were so much better because they weren't being interrupted and constantly objected to.
00:24:46.320Well, you know, all these things are coming into line.
00:24:49.420Although, again, I don't know if this part came out about Jack Smith saying in Mar-a-Lago – excuse me, in Fort Pierce this morning – that they are not in violation of that DOJ 60-day rule.
00:25:02.160So we've got to be aware, you know, this isn't completely smooth sailing, although I think Judge Cannon has explained that that trial is so complicated and there's so much that has to be done pre-trial.
00:25:12.940So I do not believe that trial will begin before the election.
00:25:15.920So I don't want people to get too positive.
00:25:18.960But if they go to the stack and read the purple and green headlines, you'll see how I feel.
00:25:24.440And I think we can get to 90 to 100 million votes.
00:25:28.260That's, you know, that's the last thing I said.
00:25:31.300You know, this is – I like what Scott Pressler is doing.
00:25:57.020And as long as I'm mentioning those seven swing states, we have that bombshell poll from Bloomberg today, brand new, Trump leading all seven states, nine points in Nevada, six points – I mean, I'm doing this off memory – but six points in Arizona, six points in Pennsylvania, Steve, in Pennsylvania.
00:28:25.660Shortly after the government pushed through the Patriot Act.
00:28:28.140This gave the government power to spy on innocent Americans by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement across the Internet.
00:28:37.000Now, Jim Rickards, editor of the independent financial newsletter Strategic Intelligence and New York Times bestselling author,
00:28:44.100is warning about a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level.
00:28:49.840In fact, some of the guests I've had on the war room believe that the government will soon expand their powers to track our every move.
00:28:57.700If we say the wrong things on social media, donate to the wrong causes, buy firearms, or even vote MAGA,
00:29:04.340the government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts.
00:29:08.620I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire warning.
00:29:14.160Fortunately, Jim Rickards, an American patriot and friend of mine, has made it his mission to educate us on what he believes is coming
00:29:20.900and how to protect yourself from the possibility of programmable money.
00:29:26.480Watch Jim's warning video now, before it's censored like I've been in the past.
00:31:11.760This is the reason people hate this city.
00:31:20.720This is the reason people hate wimpy, pencil-neck Republican politicians.
00:31:26.640And this is why Donald Trump came on with a breath of fresh air and beat the 16 people he beat back in 2016 against Murdoch and all of them and then defeat the Clintons.
00:31:39.520And then they tried to steal his first term.
00:31:42.040He fought them through three great years of peace and prosperity for a bioweapon.
00:31:45.800And then, when they had the summer of love and everything against him, he still won with 74 million votes and they had to steal it again.
00:31:51.960And we've had nothing but a catastrophe in this country since then.
00:32:36.500Your cowardice and your wimpiness is revolting.
00:32:43.340And you wonder why Trump has ascended again after they tried to bury him and make him a non-person?
00:32:49.780Because the whole nation, even people that don't agree with him politically, and people that don't like his style, are sitting there going,
00:32:55.600we're in a crisis and at least this guy stands in the breach.
00:33:09.420And, of course, you know, my family's condolences and love to the Lake and Riley family.
00:33:16.240And I am so proud to be a small part of the MAGA movement, the MAGA posse and of President Trump's team and to have now for most of 10 years worked for a president who did secure our border, work for a president who did save America and Americans and who's going to do it again when he's reelected.
00:33:39.580You heard the president speak beautifully about Lake and Riley.
00:33:42.340And, you know, right now, her memorial is going on.
00:33:50.640And we're also thinking of all of the other family.
00:33:52.900I mean, there's been hundreds and thousands of Americans whose lives and families have been destroyed by the fact that our country has no border, by the fact that our country has no security, by the fact that our country right now, Steve, for the last three plus years has no leadership.
00:36:03.700President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong.
00:36:06.180But you also see a continuation of hope for fairness and a system of justice that operates as it should with the Supreme Court coming down.
00:36:15.660And the legal experts and scholars are all thankful the Supreme Court has taken the question of presidential immunity.
00:36:21.940And as President Trump said time and time and time and time again, you cannot have a presidency if you don't have presidential immunity.
00:36:33.600No, this is how we saved the republic.
00:36:35.280For 234 years, there was never a situation where a president and plenty wanted it.
00:36:43.040Everybody from John Quincy Adams to Barack Obama to George W. Bush and, of course, Crooked Joe Biden, who's destroyed our border, destroyed our country.
00:36:52.780There are plenty of political reasons and there are plenty of legal reasons to potentially look at presidential action.
00:36:59.400But there was never in our history a time where a current president or a former president was criminally charged.
00:37:05.100Why? Because if you are allowed to go around and charge criminally or go after civil presidents for their official actions, there could never be a presidency again.
00:37:17.860So, again, all presidents from ask for all Americans, ask for his fairness.
00:37:22.040And it did seem that there was a major step in that in that direction this week with the Supreme Court vitally taking up the question of presidential immunity for official acts.
00:37:30.000And they're setting into regular process schedule for argument at the end of April.
00:37:36.400Then you had the appeals court today overturned a bunch of these charges on the J6 guys being too much.
00:37:43.000You've got the Supreme Court, I think, a week before you do the immunity.
00:37:47.420They're hearing the case in a normal process about the official, about this trumped-up charge on this, which is really two-thirds of Jack Smith's thing.
00:37:56.860I mean, every night, I know you're too busy because you're coordinating the lawyers, Boris, but as I tell you, we curate, particularly MSNBC, because Ari Melber and these guys, two days afterwards, it's all they're doing.
00:38:08.600It's like they're, what is it, sitting Shiva?
00:38:10.300They're in mourning because of this immunity thing.
00:38:13.680It's just, it's just, it's, no, it's, they got the conch shells and they're cutting their foreheads.
00:39:24.160There's so much going on that you're organizing and coordinating.
00:39:27.260But the funny will is, I got to tell you, Mike Roman's lawyer, Jeff Clark's lawyer, the president's lawyer, I've never seen anything like it.
00:39:36.280And I said, this is a humiliation for the city of Atlanta, the people in the county of Fulton County, and the state of Georgia.
00:39:42.460You're being humiliated before the world because I've never seen a beatdown like this in my life.
00:40:57.140He's just like, oh, I don't really recall.
00:40:59.360When you see the text messages, he knows everything from here to Timbuktu.
00:41:02.400The bottom line is we need our country back.
00:41:07.020We need President Trump back in office.
00:41:09.700We need real leaders in the House and the Senate.
00:41:11.680I think it's great that Katie Britt from Alabama is going to be given the rebuttal to the Crooked Joe Biden fake State of the Union address.
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