Episode 3446： Lead Up To State Of The Union
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Join us in the pregame for the State of the Union as we hear from Rep. Matt Gates (R-VA) and Capt. John Frankman (D-NJ) on the dangers of vaccines in the military.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to
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do everything the world to stop that but you're not gonna stop it it's going to happen and where
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do people like that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of these
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people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
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save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host Stephen K Bannon
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but now that you see how personal medical decisions are will you call for the re-recruitment
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restoration of full rank and back pay for the 8600 service members who were vax mandated out of the
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military oh no I won't yeah it's just kind of appalling that total double standard from the
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sec death I don't know a decision that Lloyd Austin has made that's helped strengthen the military and
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repugates his right to talk about the 8600 who were forced out so it was a special forces green
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beret who was assigned at seven special forces group in 2020 I joined the military because I
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wanted it is um Thursday 7 March year over 2024 you're in the war room it's the pregame for state
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of the union and we're honored to have uh the firebrand congressman Matt Gates and a very honored guest
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captain uh John Frankman green beret and traditional catholic I might add uh why and we can play more of
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this we'll play more of it later why tonight at the state of the union why are you bringing
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captain frankman and what message are you trying to show to the nation as we've talked about often
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on this program my district has one of the highest concentrations of active duty military in the country
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and so when the pentagon gets the sniffles we get pneumonia and what the pentagon did to military
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families is still causing grave harm in my district and throughout the country captain frankman tip of the
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spear served as a green beret the very best that the united states army has to offer and truly some
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of the most inspirational people I've ever met in my life John was serving in that in that elite group
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uh and okay hang on hang on hang on hang on isn't this are you saying that this is about vaccine injury
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vaccine vaccine mandate you're just saying the mandate is what the mandate you're talking about
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you're just talking about the mandate actually because I want to make sure you're not a conspiracy
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terrorist well well hey listen I've got I've got tape to get you on that today we actually had
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the first hearing in the house armed services committee on vaccine injuries in the military
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and the physicians that were there looked like fools having to assess this data showing increases in
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problems with pregnant women with pulmonary embolisms with myocarditis I'd want the physicians look at me
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and say oh well you know some of these are chronic conditions I said a pulmonary embolism you have
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almost 50 increase in pulmonary embolisms and you say that that's a chronic condition sounds a lot
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like an acute condition to me and everyone who's ever had a pulmonary embolism but but the mandate
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made our nation so much weaker yeah go back and go back and talk about I want I want every American
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to know that there are still great patriots like John Frankman who resisted that mandate who stood on
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their faith what was the mandate by the Pentagon and the individual services what was it so the mandate
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was to receive the COVID shot the COVID vaccine and the mandate went into effect in August of 2021 but
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it was long before that that we were receiving the pressure and the coercion to receive the shot and we
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were being punished for it as a detachment commander I joined the military because I wanted to serve my
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country glorify God and I'm a Catholic first and foremost spent time in seminary so when I found out that
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these shots used aborted fetal cells I had hesitancy about getting it and I told my guys I would neither
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found it was an experimental gene therapy that's what changed your mind it was continuing prayer and
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weighing out one the aborted fetal cell piece that it's the murder of the unborn child the theft of its
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body parts and yeah that it actually hurts me and another definition for sin is an act against reason
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and it would be unreasonable for me to put my body in jeopardy for a disease I have a 99.99% chance of
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surviving when I already know that it causes myocarditis and it's just not needed in young
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healthy people such as myself and my soldiers did you have any flexibility at all when this first
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started coming down you're in the army green beret right when this first started coming down
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from the army was there any flexibility at all was there any way that you could put in for a religious
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exemption or some sort of exemption so I did put in for a religious exemption and before the mandate
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came out my team being 10 and 12 not vaccinated we had the deployment taken from us that we'd been
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training up for for months we had air assets allocated to us we were a military freefall team
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and before the mandate came out because of the punishments because the first special forces
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command policy they made it a requirement to be vaccinated in order to deploy and we had these
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kinds of policies going on and other kind of pressures to get vaccinated so really they stopped
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a point on those exemptions the investigations that my office ran found that the denials of the
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religious exemptions were form letters so you had these service members pouring their heart and soul
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a lot of thought and due diligence went into it and by the way the law says like for a tough break for a
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swell guy yeah well the law says that every one of these exemptions is entitled to specific and itemized
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review and that they are entitled to individual review not to be batched together and they got responded
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to with form letters and you have people with deep faith it's deeply founded and and they were totally
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mistreated and disrespected was your entire unit held back from the deployment so it was collective
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guilt because you wouldn't get vaccinated everybody the the unit couldn't go myself and the team didn't
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get vaccinated so we weren't allowed to go on and the team your entire team did not get vaccinated the
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majority of my team did not get it until the mandate came out because they knew it was emergency use
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authorized and therefore the drug companies would not be held liable they had families they were worried
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about how do i pay for my family what do i do if i'm mad after the mandate came how much your team how
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many members of your team got vaccinated the rest of the team got it after the mandate came out and
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they still withheld a deployment just to punish you they would they would help the deployment to
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punish us i'm pretty sure and that's based on first sfc policy so the military the dod is trying to
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figure out how do we get as many people vaccinated as possible so they make it a requirement to travel
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to career did your team hold it against you that you held out no my team was very supportive of me
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and they're supportive even after the mandate came out after the mandate came out the deployment had
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already we had already lost the deployment okay because this is not speaking of john's team but
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let me let me pull back the curtain here a little bit a lot of these guys submitted paperwork that
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they got vaccinated and they didn't really get vaccinated and they felt like because the military
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was lying to them that they could produce documentation that wasn't that that wasn't
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consistent with what they had received so you can see how since they didn't get vaccinated there
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was fine didn't get covert or whatever well now you have the cdc saying if you have covet just stay
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home 24 hours after the fever subsides so the fact that lives were were destroyed i worry that
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we move past that and i want to reinvigorate the move to give reparations to the people who were so
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harmed by these vaccine mandates and not just the mandates themselves but the coercion that went along
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with it uh and and john lived that so the two things you want to do is number one for those that
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were forced out of the military or hurt by the military forced to retire you want to make sure
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they're taken care of first right they either come back to the military or you get full back pay
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whatever it is everyone and how many in aggregate do we think that is in all the military all the
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uniformed services i think there were probably hundreds of thousands so we had a drop of like
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50 000 people within the first year of the the mandate going out and even though we had the 8600 kicked
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out yeah you had that tens of thousands such as myself whose careers were so appropriately
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harmed that we chose to leave and now we have this culminating effect where you had the people kicked out
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you had the retention issues people leaving you have recruitment issues we have an unknown number
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do you believe the problem with recruitment is directly tied to how this was handled i think it's
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tied to everything it's tied to how afghanistan was handled it's tied to how the vaccine mandate was
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handled we don't trust our leaders and if we're going to put our lives is there a lack of trust of
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of of what the field grade or the generals i think it's the generals i think it is somewhat of the
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field grade and the generals are more culpable for this but what the field grade should have done
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is they should have looked at the letter of the law understood what their oath was to the
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constitution and pushed back because this was not helpful in supporting and defending the
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constitution last time i looked we run the house why is armed services committee not and why is it
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always you why is it always you that have to go out and do these hearings why is armed services not
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on that central issue the rot the rot that's inside the military no one has done more on this than
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jim banks uh he's chaired our military personnel subcommittee and he and senator banks yeah he and i were
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today pounding the so-called health care leaders at dod over the fact that they're cooking the books
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on a lot of the vaccine you think i believe there's an absolute commander banks thinks that
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oh yes good navy officer he has done a terrific job
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hold on when you say cook the books that's going to kick guys heads on fire but blown up what what do
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you mean specifically i believe that the military is casting data in a way to avoid the obvious
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conclusion that people are suffering vaccine injuries in a few key areas and i believe that in
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part because when we were asking whether or not these groups of the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated
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were disaggregated to see if these huge bumps that we're seeing in in these really acute ailments
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are connected to the vaccine and they tried to tell us that the increase in myocarditis pulmonary
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embolisms uh various forms of hypertension that that's because of the virus not because of the
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vaccine and yet when we ask for the just the obvious investigative step no empirical to disaggregate
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it exactly there's so many stories too we just know that service members are injured killed by this
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thing you don't have guys go to dive school and die or maritime assessment course you don't have
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the shape that these guys are in there but where do we stand in that process of taking care of those
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whose careers were damaged all that in uh just the military itself where do you stand in that process
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yeah we we failed we failed to to put this in the ndaa and it's the reason i voted against it there
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was a lot of good in the ndaa pay for troops more for my district more for the missions i care about
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but i voted no because i made a commitment to john and to many others who've signed a military
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accountability pledge i want to give them a chance to talk about that we do right by the people
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before we go and you know give the next stock bump to raytheon do you think what you're finding out
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about vaccine injury is also going to change the larger narrative because this is a there's a long
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road to home and big big pharma is doing everything they can to suppress vaccine injury information and
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chip roy and i actually have legislation to strip away the immunities that big pharma enjoys and and
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we're going to try to get votes on that talk to us about the pledge so declaration of military
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accountability was signed by 231 former and active service members you had brad miller on
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he spoke about it people can go to military accountability he was just on tucker the other
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day too he was yes so it's getting some traction and basically because the civilian leaders what
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are you guys what are you guys trying to accomplish we're trying to get accountability we're trying to
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restore the military through accountability the ways we do that one people in civilian leadership
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they take retirement pay away from these generals and they make sure they can't serve under senior
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executive service other way next president puts in good service secretaries and he calls from
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retirement these generals who have violated law calls them off of retirement onto active duty so
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they can be court-martialed so this is all according to the law we're doing what's within our moral and
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legal parameters how many officers how many generals talk about just estimate would be called back in
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court-martialed it depends how deep we want to go let's say we want to go deep it would be hundreds it
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would you're saying right now if we want to go deep in investigations you believe for full
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accountability hundreds of generals would be called back off of our flag officers would be called back
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off of at a retirement to be court-martialed is that what you're telling me yeah ultimately you
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take an oath to support and defend the constitution and when you're given an or illegal order you're
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supposed to push back against it and you're supposed to fight on behalf of your service members
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so if you're allowing a law to go in and you're pressuring people to receive this shot that is
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experimental that is actually doing physical damage to them that's a huge problem and we know
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it went against um people not receiving an fda approved shot because the fda approved one wasn't
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even namely but there's more issues than just this that you were calling back off retirement
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on this not just not just the vaccine mandates there are other issues about accountability
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within the woke military that you would you would investigate these guys so my specific line
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of effort is with regards to the shot mandate however there needs to be accountability and
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brad's is much broader than that though right he's not just on the vaccine he's pushing for
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the vaccine mandate that's what kind of our line of effort is but absolutely afghanistan it's
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terrible there has been no accountability for afghanistan for the chinese spy balloon for these
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mandates for the lowest recruitment we've ever had we can't even get accountability for the
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department of defense losing the secretary of defense i know but besides you last time i looked
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the house armed services committee is one of the most powerful committees in all the imperial
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capital you got and you have incredibly bright and tough people up there and it's you and a
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couple other guys fighting mills is doing a good job a good job but of course the same cast of
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characters is a big committee it always seems to me that it's just there to push and make sure we
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have a bigger defense bill that we're going to get to a trillion dollars before president trump's
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second year in uh in office for a second term right yeah but i'm not on the armed services committee
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because there's some big defense contract contractor presence in my district i think that's why a lot
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of people try to get on the committee to protect a particular program that is manufactured in their
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area and for me it's the people because we have such a high concentration of army navy uh we've got air
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force you name it and that is my interest is their families their well-being and ultimately i know that's
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what serves the nation best and they have been betrayed and there's no other way to say it and that
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betrayal is a stain on our country and people need to know it and republicans need to be willing to
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confront it not just with messaging bills but by using leverage by saying no more authorizations
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for new starts for defense contractors until the service members are taken care of i know you guys
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got to run can you just stay through the commercial break a couple minutes the other side just got to
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ask you about tonight all right sure okay night cases agreed these guys got to run but they're
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okay tonight the constitution says on occasions the president should update the the the house the
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congress uh it's now we get into a formal situation uh give me your assessment everybody wants to know
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your assessment tonight what can we anticipate well joe biden is going to try to bait
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house republicans into some sort of raucous exchange right remember that the state of the union gives
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the president tremendous home field advantage you get to craft what's coming down to your house you
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get to craft no no you get you are the center of attention the stagecraft is all about the president
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they have a lot of flexibility regarding the duration of this experience the pomp and circumstance so
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he's going to blame us for the border which is really laughable and rather than just allowing that
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to sort of sit as a as a thud my concern is that some of my colleagues are going to raucously
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exchange that baiting and what that will do is make joe biden look vigorous where he otherwise wouldn't
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okay the the issue is not whether some fine point of joe biden's policy agenda this isn't the clinton
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era he's not going to announce a new blue ribbon commission or a new moon shot it's not going to
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be two and a half hours exactly people can't afford their groceries people can't afford their heating
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oil so this is not a situation where we're really in a policy debate millions of people are going to
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watch this thing and they're going to say is joe biden up to it is he up to it and if we give him
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kind of a situation where he gets to look like a lion tamer standing above a raucous crowd
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then we're playing into his hand um i will be sitting quietly like a southern gentleman and i
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promised my mother i would not be texting too often a last question some of your closest colleagues and
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the people that you think the most highly of uh may not be in attendance tonight your thoughts on that
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topic uh i've uh learned that i don't set the social calendars of my colleagues and they don't set
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mine great answer uh when can we uh do you know do you have any idea where you're going to sit
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you're going to be near mtg is going to be is going to be a a group of uh i sit near timber i sit the
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same place every time i'm a backbencher so i sit on the second to the last row on the center aisle
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i got the mountain man tim birchett on one side probably uh the firebrand from colorado miss
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bobert on my right okay fantastic and we're all going to be on our best behavior uh social media
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where do people get all your stuff at mac gates at rep mac gates today's episode of firebrand john
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goes into his story how he joined the military uh how that betrayal has played out for thousands
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of families uh firebrand anywhere you watch your podcast captain where do people go for you if you
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camp to thank you very much good luck we'll be looking for you guys tonight thank you so much
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let's go to we got congressman andy biggs is with us congressman biggs thank you your assessment
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first off congressman biggs i didn't get a chance to ask matt this but your assessment of how we got
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rolled you're my guy on the deficit i think the mass shares are going to have two trillion two and a
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half trillion on this bill that uh your colleagues are going to pass how do we get rolled like this
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we get rolled like it because um we don't have it we we have 74 we have 85 people i think voted
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against it right so that means that we just simply don't have enough people enough horses to actually
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tame mike johnson right now and so we got rolled on that the second thing is we got rolled when we
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allowed mike johnson to say almost immediately after he became speaker and we started talking about
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budgeting he said um we're never going to shut the budget border excuse me the the government down we
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can't afford to shut the government down that took away his leverage and um i i think people like
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myself like i why why why why are they such cowards why are they such cowards about shutting the
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government down why he promised us he was going to shut the border nothing in here is about shutting
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the border johnson committed to people that he was going to secure the border he had every opportunity
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to do it why is he so afraid of forcing by of shutting down the government and forcing biden to the table
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i'm going to give you what i think are two or three reasons number one he's afraid
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that uh doing something like that he might get vacated he thinks somebody's going to come after
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him i don't believe that's the case uh number two he's been told by the the people that he has
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surrounded himself with that it is a political loser for us to shut the government down and i don't
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believe that to be the case either um i proff i gave him a bill that would have uh targeted cuts
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uh excuse me targeted closed down so we kept funding certain things we had to and then we
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didn't fund the rest he liked that but he was afraid to do it third thing is he just got sucker
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punched by of all people joe biden and chuck schumer and i find that absolutely stunning if you want the
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truth how did he get sucker punched he went in there and he believed whatever they told him
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he believed whatever they told him and and so he gave up all leverage on the budget which when you
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once you gave up all the leverage on the budget he gave up all the leverage on the border steve so that
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means that um we could pass hr2 but the lawless administration of joe biden would not enforce it
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and if you want to enforce the law that means you have to use the one check that the founders
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gave uh and that is the most dramatic one that's to control the money and you and you cut off their
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money supply and they wouldn't do it uh by the way we've put him on notice tonight we want to see
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him bouncing up and down clapping every time biden says one of these ridiculous things where you have
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to be appropriate you should be appropriate but it shouldn't be any more than that uh congressman
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where are we going to find you tonight uh uh gates gave us his usual location up there with bobert
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and birchett as a backbencher where can we find you when the camera span it goes around the place
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you're not going to find me there steve i'm not there this year this is uh this may be the first
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time i haven't gone i've gone even when the he did the delayed covet deal and they only invited invited
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like 80 republicans in i was asked to come and i went i'm not going um i'm going to actually either
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be in my office or be in my house and i'm going to be i'm going to be commenting on social media
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and we're going to do fact checking that's what my staff did last year they fact checked
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the entire time but why why why why are you why are you not going is that an insult to the
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institution of the house and the institution of the president yeah my my feeling is that he has so
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denigrated the office of president um that there's no no rationale for going the second reason is this
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i don't need to go and hear him gaslight the american people and lie to them and and give
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anybody the uh satisfaction of saying oh andy biggs was there um and he must be okay with this i am not
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okay with this i am not okay with what this administration is doing i am not okay with this
00:24:02.280
move to authoritarianism i am not okay with the emasculation of our of our sovereignty i am not okay
00:24:08.680
with spending us into oblivion with almost three trillion dollars in national debt increase in the
00:24:14.500
last 12 months alone steve no i'm not going to give anybody the satisfaction let anybody say
00:24:20.180
that i'm giving this guy the respect that he doesn't deserve i respect the office of president
00:24:24.900
of the united states because that is an institution i do not respect the current holder
00:24:28.680
councilman biggs where can people follow you particularly tonight what you and your staff
00:24:34.700
will be putting stuff up on social media where they go at rep andy biggs az at rep andy biggs
00:24:41.720
thank you we'll be we'll be online we'll be checking social media and seeing what you and your staff as
00:24:48.200
you fact check joe biden so he can't gaslight the american people thank you thanks thanks steve
00:24:53.920
scott besson uh scott you're one of the smartest financiers on wall street the daily mail has a huge
00:25:00.380
story up there today one of their lead stories that says that joe biden's going to put the
00:25:04.680
bayonair class on notice he's going to talk about a 25 tax it's all about going after the wealthy
00:25:10.040
and the super wealthy tonight your assessment sir well of course he's got to go after the wealthy
00:25:16.000
and the super wealthy there are more of them the since he's become president the since joe biden's
00:25:21.840
become president the huge amount of the gains have accrued to the top 15 percent of americans
00:25:27.560
they've never had it so good so you know he robbed the working class bank and took it to the
00:25:33.740
bank of the 15 percent now he's got to try to get some of that cash back i know you're working on some
00:25:41.440
analysis but when you say make you say hey he went to the working class bank took out some value took
00:25:47.960
out uh some increase in uh in in wealth uh and gave it to the uh to the elite bank what do you mean by
00:25:55.160
that well i i mean that the under joe biden real wages for the bottom 15 percent of earners and i just
00:26:04.260
mean that in an economic sense i think the bottom 15 percent earners are really the the top percent of
00:26:09.920
americans and they so they've lost real purchasing power since the biden has come into office and the
00:26:19.060
top 15 percent who own the assets of the country have never had it so good
00:26:24.800
how can you but didn't he try correct me if i'm wrong but didn't he try last january 23 to put a
00:26:33.780
bainer's tax in he had a bunch of speeches about he made a big deal about it this is joe from scranton
00:26:38.540
but then it just kind of went away uh all the uh the schumer and the crowd in the senate because
00:26:44.440
the democratic party is really financed by billionaires they kind of put up a say that's
00:26:49.780
not going to happen and it went away haven't we seen this movie before from this guy yeah well i mean
00:26:55.640
we've seen the movie but what we haven't seen is the the transfer of wealth is that you know the
00:27:06.660
the bottom 50 50 percent uh between the biden administration and the federal reserve there's
00:27:14.140
a toxic brew and i call it the three eyes inflation interest rates and immigration
00:27:20.960
inflation has taken away real purchasing power interest rates we are starting to see for the
00:27:28.660
bottom 50 percent the car loans credit card the credit card non-performers go up and then immigration
00:27:37.060
has suppressed wages you know could you imagine what wage gains would have been for working class
00:27:44.440
americans if we'd had the same immigration policy at under joe biden as we had a donald trump you know is
00:27:52.460
they they want us to believe that somehow the the one place in the world where supply demand doesn't
00:27:59.460
work the uh is immigration uh scott can you hang on for a second we're taking a short commercial
00:28:08.200
break i just want to go back through the three eyes i want to make sure people are keep that in
00:28:11.960
mind tonight as a what a heuristic device uh when uh when watching joe biden if you're so inclined to
00:28:18.100
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the government pushed through the patriot act this gave the government power to spy on innocent americans
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by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement across the internet now jim rickards
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editor of the independent financial newsletter strategic intelligence and new york times best-selling
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author is warning about a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a
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terrifying new level in fact some of the guests i've had on the war room believe that the government
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will soon expand their powers to track our every move if we say the wrong things on social media
00:29:25.120
donate to the wrong causes buy firearms or even vote maga the government may be able to shut us out of
00:29:31.920
our bank accounts i can't say for sure if this will happen but it's an interesting and dire warning
00:29:38.960
fortunately jim rickards an american patriot and friend of mine has made it his mission to educate
00:29:43.700
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watch jim's warning video now before it's censored like i've been in the past go to rickardswarroom.com
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that's rickardswarroom.com now to see the video here's your host stephen k band
00:30:06.000
scott before i let you go i just want to make sure tonight when people are watching the toxic brew can
00:30:13.640
you give me the three eyes again sure inflation interest rates and immigration they have combined
00:30:22.300
to form a toxic brew the for working class americans and when you hear that working class americans
00:30:31.240
are not happy with the economy you should think about those three you know they're caught the you know
00:30:38.300
they're caught in this is inflation negative the negative purchasing power under joe biden
00:30:46.500
interest rates have gone from basically zero to five percent obviously much more the for
00:30:55.240
poorly rated buyers and then immigration the you know the people who come across the border
00:31:02.720
they don't take people's jobs at microsoft they they take working class americans jobs and you know the
00:31:10.380
the chair of the federal reserve jerome powell said on 60 minutes that immigration was one of the
00:31:17.900
things that pushed wages down so you know everybody should think about those three things and think
00:31:23.460
about how joe biden has helped the billionaire class so you've committed to us you're going to watch
00:31:30.540
the speech tonight take notes and we'll have you back on in the morning show and go through your
00:31:34.160
uh independent assessment of this i'd be glad to i'm also publishing a piece the you know outlining
00:31:41.340
my views on what they call bidenomics uh you know i call bidenism because it really is like
00:31:49.840
peronism in argentina so wow scott you're one of the smartest guys on wall street one of the smartest
00:31:57.240
hedge fund managers thank you for joining us we look forward to seeing the piece and we look forward
00:32:00.780
to having you back on here tomorrow morning okay good night the toxic brew inflation interest rates
00:32:09.440
immigration the three i's make sure tonight if you're going to watch it keep that as one of your
00:32:13.360
framing devices very honored to have i think one of our favorite guests in here sabin howard you're
00:32:20.840
back from uh you might have to get a little closer to that mike um you're back from england tell us what
00:32:26.420
tell us when you left what's the status of this incredible sculpture um well we're just rocking it
00:32:33.040
at this foundry we got three quarters of a 60 foot long bronze wall assembled we got another eight
00:32:41.960
weeks and the full 58 feet 38 characters ready to ship it and we will land it in uh dc for an unveiling
00:32:53.660
on september 13th of this year uh this is really an unheard of thing it's a miracle that's about to
00:32:59.640
happen uh sabin was nice enough today to come by and to spend some time with the team and also to bring
00:33:05.220
i don't know if we do we have the b-roll can we play it's going right there you see in our own studio
00:33:10.320
that is a that's a not a replica you you tell us what we saw there because that we couldn't even lift
00:33:17.240
it and put it into the war we tried to but my my scrawny uh this is my scrawny staff here we're not
00:33:23.460
manly no it's not enough room we kind of came and couldn't even put it up i brought you today the
00:33:28.700
actual uh piece that passed through the commission of fine arts and green light of the project that's
00:33:34.320
what they when they saw that that was the final thing they signed off and it said go for it yeah
00:33:38.380
yeah after a year and a half um we uh broke that wall down and we got through and so when we see those
00:33:44.080
figures there those are going to be almost seven feet tall those human figures some of them are
00:33:48.320
almost seven feet tall yeah the the figures are uh no smaller than six foot six um some of them going
00:33:55.100
up to seven foot two but here's the trick it's like uh the project was like let's make the figures
00:34:00.200
let's minimize them and i was like no let's let's do something interesting here we made the figures
00:34:05.060
break the actual wall so they when you look at it because you're looking at it from down below
00:34:09.280
you get this really monumental heroic uh effect because they break the plane of the wall they
00:34:15.700
cannot be contained and those are like those those are representative of the soldiers that went to
00:34:20.460
fight it's it's both this is both representative art not not this conceptual art so it's which most of
00:34:29.680
the uh sculpting is done today so it's representative but it's also narrative the the 60 feet tells a
00:34:36.620
narrative story you start at the beginning and you go all the way to the conclusion which the
00:34:41.200
conclusion is a new beginning right so it's both it's both representative in narrative yeah uh it's got
00:34:48.520
many layers um it's a father uh a soldier and an allegory for the united states and it's called the
00:34:59.200
soldier's journey but ultimately it is the hero's journey and so you have this soldier father
00:35:06.600
uh husband the united states who leaves his family and uh goes across the ocean to fight in a land
00:35:16.640
he's never been before he leads a charge in battle and then from that there's a cost of war where he
00:35:22.300
is transformed from having had to go through that battle he then returns in the final scene and hands
00:35:29.740
his daughter which is the next generation his helmet and obviously she looks into the helmet she's looking
00:35:35.320
down into the helmet she divines the future which is world war ii how is it that when this is
00:35:43.020
installed in september of this year it'll be what 110 years yeah from the beginning of the conflict we
00:35:48.900
didn't get involved i think until 17 or 18 why has it taken over a hundred years to have a monument
00:35:56.900
done in commemoration and an honor of what was one of the most important events in american history
00:36:03.540
because it not just triggered the entire 20th century but it also it took america to a place
00:36:09.920
first off it was not finally remembered for a long time because all the casualties and america didn't
00:36:14.380
want to get involved overseas the league of nations was shot down we didn't want any more foreign
00:36:18.880
entanglements why has it taken so long uh for the history of the united states really world war one was
00:36:25.580
usurped by the great depression and world war ii we took greater casualties there and then it's uh
00:36:31.300
the way that washington dc and monuments went we worked backwards from the vietnam war to this point
00:36:36.600
and this didn't come up till the last remaining survivor from world war one uh frank buckles
00:36:43.380
appeared in front of congress and uh it started moving then and so that was that was the impetus where
00:36:52.280
uh i i believe uh several presidents ago passed into legislation and appointed this land at pershing park
00:36:59.360
to contain this national memorial it's about time people should know that if you know dc right where
00:37:06.680
the uh the marriott and uh the willard are right in that park that's become very famous on 14th street
00:37:12.640
the monument itself will have its back to the treasury department in the white house and a little bit to
00:37:18.080
the willard it'll be looking i guess up pennsylvania avenue to the capital that's so all the parades on
00:37:24.480
pennsylvania avenue you'll come and you'll see this monument in its full in its full glory yeah this
00:37:30.120
this monument is um it is a a huge change from the way the art world and the way monuments have depicted
00:37:38.440
soldiers uh i i went last week i just wanted to see if i could find another monument that had
00:37:45.020
such a narrative you know first off you never have a narrative that tells us the story of soldiers
00:37:50.440
leaving home entering into battle being transformed by that and then returning home so this is a
00:37:56.520
sculpture that's completely historical in terms of it's universal it could be any war it could be any
00:38:04.580
country it could it and i think that's really important because why do people come to washington
00:38:10.420
they come to washington to learn about the history of this country and so i made something that is
00:38:15.800
unique for the armed forces and veterans in the military so they will be finally recognized by
00:38:22.040
something that is really on level with what they do when they enter into the service and they risk
00:38:27.900
their physical being and their mental being to serve their country in fact you used actual real veterans
00:38:35.740
when you when you actually made the drawings to actually make uh the sculpture itself i i you're uh from
00:38:43.000
the midpoint to the end um there is a soldier uh that leads the charge that's the father i began using
00:38:51.060
veterans because i needed to make something that would really create a visceral reaction in the viewer
00:38:56.600
and uh every single one of the six veterans that i use from rangers marines uh navy seals um they all
00:39:05.400
suffered from uh ptsd and each one of those men that i i sculpted their portrait and put it up on that
00:39:14.040
wall each one of those men carried a story that i needed to learn to make a sculpture that would like
00:39:20.400
speak properly of their experience and the harrowing things that they have to to go through um i brought
00:39:27.440
in one veteran ricky zambrano who served in uh afghanistan came back um and we made a mini
00:39:35.360
documentary on him with my wife tracy uh his story he wished to make it public and he committed suicide
00:39:43.900
tried to commit suicide by swallowing 18 pills um and then something lifted him up and he went to the um
00:39:51.220
the toilet and threw threw up those pills and and from that moment on he realized that uh nobody was going to
00:39:56.920
come to save him he had to do it from within and this this is why am i telling you this story is
00:40:02.340
because this sculpture is about human beings so all too often you have all these things on the media
00:40:08.540
and on tv well it's just too disengaging for the general public unless you have like you know a brother
00:40:14.560
or a father that's been in the military and then you really know the repercussions of what happens
00:40:18.860
when that guy comes home it's like they're taught to enter into the battlefield they're not taught to
00:40:25.740
become civilians and so sculpting from these guys i learned what it's like and i transferred that into
00:40:33.560
the sculpture so that when general public goes to see this sculpture they're going to be affected
00:40:38.980
how did you get this reminds me we've talked about this about this magnificent sculpture
00:40:44.200
in front of the capital of general grant in the in the federal troops that defended but you don't see
00:40:51.180
this today that that was made a long time ago you don't really see this representative art how did
00:40:56.120
you actually convince people not just to do representative art but folks you will be the scale
00:41:02.480
of this thing is so big and so overpowering how did you ever convince the the i guess the the architect
00:41:09.240
of the capital or the arts commission here how did you actually convince people because everything
00:41:13.880
else is symbolic or conservative vietnam is very powerful but it's symbolic uh the the world war ii
00:41:19.080
incredibly powerful but just very symbolic it's not it's not it doesn't have a human touch to it
00:41:24.280
well i went into this uh bear in mind okay you got 360 global design teams enter into the contest
00:41:30.120
so we come out we win this in january of 2016 and i i was fortunate enough with centennial commission
00:41:37.160
because they were the driving force behind this project um this was not paid for by taxpayer money it
00:41:42.620
was like all uh private sector money um i was led by this man edwin fountain who had a vision of doing
00:41:50.220
something like the schrade memorial in front of the capital which is very visceral you can you can smell
00:41:57.340
the mud you can you look at the horses that are pulling the artillery wagon with the wheels stuck in the dirt
00:42:04.880
and these guys like pushing the horses forward it's this massive kinetic energy that's emotionally
00:42:12.380
driven so edwin goes to me he goes you need to make something that when the public comes to see your
00:42:18.500
sculpture they're going to have a visceral reaction and they're going to go home and they're going to
00:42:24.360
want to know more about world war one i need something that will teach us what world war one was like
00:42:29.920
now here's the funny part of the story i didn't read a single book on world war one i because i i when
00:42:36.420
i got into the project everybody's telling you okay i want more biplanes i want trenches i want horses i
00:42:43.180
even want dogs and hundreds of people and you're very bureaucratic in nature a lot of lawyers and all of
00:42:50.940
a sudden everybody's a sculpting uh genius expert and i'm supposed to field all this and i and i'm
00:42:56.560
gonna tell you a funny story here steve i go to the bathroom one day in my studio and i have up on
00:43:01.540
the wall this poster of the last judgment by michelangelo i look at that poster and i go that's
00:43:08.180
what you got to do that's what you know bring that forward amazing you hang around we got one more
00:43:14.620
segment actually mike lindell is also going to join us i think from south dakota i'm hearing that mike
00:43:19.000
lindell really won the vote today sabin howard's here a historic event is going to take place this year
00:43:23.960
later in september the unveiling of the world war one uh monument will be you'll start installing
00:43:29.520
it in mid-august early august that's right start right outside the willard hotel across from the
00:43:34.700
jdw merit and it was a pershing called pershing square now pershing parks gonna become world war
00:43:39.400
one park world war one park pershing blackjack pershing short commercial break uh make sure a patriot
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okay sabin what are we looking at this camera we've got a tremendous uh this is actually the the the monument
00:45:22.000
itself yeah we we passing through commission of fine arts it wasn't just uh go directly to the bronze i came up with
00:45:29.840
uh 18 iterations and on the 18th we finally hit it with this um drawing uh the drawing was the initial stage
00:45:37.600
concept design for the sculpture and this is this was a 700 hour drawing that i did um as a reference
00:45:46.500
that would then pass into a model that was made in new zealand over a four or five month period
00:45:53.040
and then from that we went to a five foot model that is the one that actually is here today well and
00:45:59.780
you'll sign this to the war room to the absolutely sign that to you guys okay we're going to keep this
00:46:03.740
we're going to figure out some place to frame this and put it in the war room so that we have it
00:46:07.420
saving howard the great i don't want to damage that nope we can make sure with all my madness
00:46:12.300
already here i don't want to damage the i will sign it right now what where you're signing it let's go
00:46:17.780
i want to go to mike lindell come back to save and saving you're going to sign it right there
00:46:21.420
we're going to sign it to the war room yo is that where are we in saint charles illinois is that
00:46:28.400
where we are mike lindell saint charles illinois and i'm here i'm just getting ready to do a speech
00:46:33.400
and we got great news coming in from south dakota everybody's happy i can't believe it everybody
00:46:38.200
everyone in illinois watches uh the war room steve it's amazing
00:46:42.420
yo we love you guys mike give us some good news man we got to hear we got to sit here and listen to
00:46:51.660
uh joe biden tonight i've just had a great show with saban howard matt gates andy biggs
00:46:57.360
we're on a high right here let's finish strong what happened in south dakota
00:47:00.820
it was huge everybody remember we were there two weeks ago at the capitol in pure south dakota
00:47:06.660
to start going county by county to get a petition and in south dakota if you get a petition of five
00:47:12.420
percent of your county you can vote to go to paper ballots and count and get rid of the machine
00:47:17.020
well they tried to stop it the uniparty republicans tried to stop us in south dakota the blockers i call
00:47:23.900
them well we won today by one vote everybody one vote we have to go through south dakota now
00:47:32.140
and we will get south dakota go county by county just we just like we are the rest of the country
00:47:38.140
it's beautiful it's a great day for america and and when do you think you're going to wrap up these
00:47:43.760
guys i know you got a couple ready to go right now when do you think you'll have the counties in
00:47:46.900
south dakota wrapped up well there's two of them i've already i've already got the the numbers for the
00:47:52.520
petitions so they have to go to a vote now uh we think we'll have uh probably at least half of them
00:47:58.720
done within a couple weeks here we'll have enough for the petitions are easy to get everybody wants
00:48:03.580
to get rid of the machines and go to paper ballots but we want to get all 66 counties in
00:48:08.060
south dakota i believe we'll have half of them within two weeks having all the petitions for it
00:48:14.040
and then uh it's just a matter of the vote and right now the polling in south dakota 90 percent of the
00:48:20.080
people want to go to paper ballots hand counter that's our that's our polls that have been done
00:48:23.920
out there so which is pretty typical across the country by the way mike i'll uh we'll have you
00:48:30.580
back on tomorrow we'll talk about the company i'll let you get back in i want to know that i know the
00:48:34.480
folks in saint charles want to get the speech rolling saint charles illinois we love you we're
00:48:39.420
never going to give up on illinois we don't care about chicago illinois you guys are the best
00:48:44.620
the war and and we love having the war and posse there take care of lindell okay take care of my
00:48:50.680
thank you thank you guys thank you thank you uh that's uh mypillot.com promo code war room mystore.com
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go check it out today smithsonian magazine the great war a magnificent article about you and the
00:49:18.380
sculptor thank you for signing this one more time just walk i want to walk through the process because
00:49:23.040
we want to follow you every step of the way we know tracy your wife is making a huge documentary
00:49:26.740
but we want to follow every so to back in september 13th the unveiling in sometime in mid-august it
00:49:32.920
comes and be installed but it'll be behind a cover so people won't be able to see it the unveiling
00:49:37.060
when does it leave england the foundry uh around the last week of uh july so it's no june june last
00:49:45.380
week of june so it takes four or five weeks it's going to be in shipping containers so 58 feet get cut
00:49:51.200
into four sections get put into shipping containers they ship across the atlantic and then they get
00:49:58.640
brought to dc uh beginning of august we'll close down pershing park and then uh lift them by crane
00:50:06.720
and install them on the park which has already been built built um and you go for your final sign
00:50:12.080
off because you left there's still one you still have one 12 foot segment to go to of of be cast
00:50:18.020
and signed off by you that's right and when will that take place i will be going uh the end of
00:50:22.620
april april 20th and uh bear in mind that this was sculpting uh in the studio in new jersey in
00:50:29.360
englewood in clay and then we would ship even through covid we shipped this stuff over to england
00:50:34.840
while they were casting so the final uh sign off will be sometime late april early may from yourself
00:50:40.140
that's right and that's when they will then ship it in pieces it'll be assembled here yeah what does
00:50:46.120
it feel like to get into the final uh you're you're now getting to the red zone of this having
00:50:50.780
dedicated what the last four or five years of your life to this yeah the four four and a half years of
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sculpting the memorial but prior to that i had to design it and go through a government agency so by
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time this is all done it's nine years nine years almost a decade of your life yes worth it beyond
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why because i i got to learn something that everybody should do in this country it's to be
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in service of something bigger than yourself you think this is your hope that this uh this memorial
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this monument inspires that in people yeah this is this is a project that is for people this is not
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for the elite uh that you don't have to read a damn book to understand this sculpture it's for
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everybody to understand anyone say but where do people go to get what tracy's got up online
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your uh website all the information about you guys want people immersed in this a big year for us
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obviously many reasons but this is one of the biggest things we're gonna be covering where do
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people go uh you can look me up at sabin howard s-a-b-i-n sabin howard.com or go look on
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instagram it's sabin howard sculptures fantastic and thank you so much thank you thank you no thank you
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the audience absolutely loves it this is what here's why this is back it's it's it's a scale
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that's bigger than human scale but it has humanity in it and that's what i think people want in art
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today the whole concept was to make the parthenon not at like 35 feet up in the air but right there
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in front of somebody's face so you could reach out and touch it almost sabin howard a renaissance man
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thank you and i can tell that no tracy has done a uh is a tremendous filmmaker and can't wait to see
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the documentary so very excited we'll cover this uh in great detail okay i'm actually going to give
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uh of course i'll tell tell you more about tomorrow six o'clock natalie's going to pick up got a very
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special show i have to go give a speech to a group of young people that are the aspiring folks that
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we're putting into all throughout the capitol to make sure we implement president trump's policies
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i'll tell you tomorrow about my visit with uh prime minister victor orban got a chance to spend
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about an hour with him today also we'll go into more of our case in italy the gladiator school is
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back up and rolling you got a taste of that at the uh what is it our force multiplier academy
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talk about that state of the union all of it natalie winters picks up from here i will see you tomorrow
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