Bannon's War Room - March 09, 2024


Episode 3450： Evidence Shows Trump Pushed For National Guard On J6


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Sen. Joe Biden is running for president in 2020, and there are a lot of reasons to be excited about it. But what will he do if he doesn t win the election? What will it mean for democracy? And what will it look like if he does win?

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00:00:00.000 And so I come back to you, Michael Beschloss, because I can't find an analog for it. Right. I mean, we've had presidents who were venal. We've had presidents who were super bright. We've had all kinds of types of presidents. We haven't had this type. And this type is is a Victor Orban who wants to literally do what Victor Orban did.
00:00:17.860 Come back into office after having lost reelection and then rewrite the Constitution with the help of his Project 2025 friends. They've already got the playbook down. They want to follow Victor Orban's model, change things about our laws and our Constitution, our judiciary so that he'll never lose again.
00:00:35.140 And he wants to do that because he's afraid of going to prison and because he's a child and because he's a narcissist and because he can't admit he lost an election.
00:00:44.280 But people are willing to let him do it. And I wonder if there's an analog for that anywhere in our history.
00:00:49.960 The sad thing is, there really isn't joy. And Tom, you know, can we think of a major party nominee who's ever talked this way about being a dictator for a day or pitting the police and the U.S. armed forces against this guy's political enemies or suspending the Constitution?
00:01:09.480 This is way off of anything we've seen in American history. And Tom, you were talking about the TV show he was on for over a decade, which a lot of people saw for a lot of time.
00:01:22.420 That was a popular show. It had a romanticized view of Donald Trump, tough, effective businessman with a heart of gold.
00:01:31.220 None of those things were true. But for people who are watching that week after week for over a decade, they were brainwashed to some extent.
00:01:40.060 Some of them were in a way that we are still suffering from. So all I'm saying is that it's the job of the three of us and people who feel as we do to make sure that the real issues this year are discussed.
00:01:52.860 And that is, do you Americans want a dictatorship and give away your rights? No, Americans don't.
00:01:59.420 Do you want to agree with these crazy policy positions that we were just alluding to?
00:02:04.400 The polls say that that isn't the case either. So if Donald Trump loses this or wins this year, it's going to be because our system did not work. Let's all make it work.
00:02:15.360 Well, Joe Biden and the Democrats do really want to lean into democracy because of January 6th, because Donald Trump tried to subvert the Constitution.
00:02:23.200 He tried to stage an actual coup, you know, didn't engage in the peaceful transfer of power.
00:02:28.320 But the fact is, voters, the word democracy doesn't land clearly with them.
00:02:34.900 What does, though, is extremism. What does is freedom. And it's interesting, you know, in 2022, when Democrats overperformed, there were a lot of questions about why did Democrats overperform?
00:02:46.320 Because expectations were really low for them. And it wasn't democracy and it wasn't just Dobbs.
00:02:53.780 It was actually the question of extremism. So take Blake Masters.
00:02:58.160 The way voters would talk about him is they would say, you know, he he says the election was stolen.
00:03:03.400 He has really extreme views on on abortion.
00:03:06.840 And he's friends with the Unabomber or he thinks the Unabomber is good. He wasn't friends with him.
00:03:10.720 He thought he was good. And that's the way voters would sort of wrap up this idea of these candidates are just too extreme.
00:03:18.340 And that's sort of how they feel about Donald Trump. They don't think he's going to be a dictator.
00:03:22.900 Exactly. They don't think he's going to overturn the Constitution. Exactly.
00:03:26.040 But they do think that he is a jerk. They do think that he sows chaos. 1.00
00:03:31.240 They do think he is irrational and can't be trusted.
00:03:35.160 And so I think that I think that Democrats just need to understand.
00:03:40.240 And Eugene just said this. And this is really true.
00:03:42.800 Democracy doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.
00:03:44.800 In fact, democracy is starting to get a little bit polarized as a word.
00:03:48.500 Right. Republicans say say that Democrats cheated in 2020.
00:03:54.060 And that's why they're a threat to democracy.
00:03:56.160 The same way Democrats say Republicans are a threat to democracy because they lied about the election being stolen and then attack the Capitol.
00:04:02.760 And so it's getting a little bit polarized.
00:04:04.720 And so it really is. It's OK to have democracy as your North Star and to say this is the thing I'm protecting.
00:04:11.340 That's good for Joe Biden to hold at his core.
00:04:13.960 But he needs to talk about it in ways that sort of connect with voters in terms of freedom and understanding how the Dobbs decision and democracy maybe relate to one another.
00:04:22.120 And I think he's doing that. I think that they I think they do understand this.
00:04:27.720 And and I think they're they just have to make sure that they connect with voters in a way that doesn't sound like it was sort of teased out in the faculty lounge of a university.
00:04:38.920 And does does does connect with sort of people's lives.
00:04:46.200 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:04:51.060 Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
00:04:56.220 I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people.
00:05:00.520 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:05:02.520 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:05:03.620 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:05:06.560 It's going to happen.
00:05:07.840 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:05:11.240 Mega media.
00:05:12.560 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:05:18.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:05:21.780 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:05:28.040 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:05:33.620 It's Saturday, 9 March in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:05:40.660 2.40 in a wake up to game day.
00:05:45.380 And of course, they're bobbing and weaving.
00:05:48.020 They, you know, they are all about this audience, the war and posse, MAGA, the deplorables,
00:05:55.860 the America First movement, being the drivers of anarchy and chaos and anti-democratic forces.
00:06:03.580 Obviously, nothing can be farther from the truth.
00:06:06.480 When you look at them, remember back with Nancy Pelosi, when President Trump finished the State of the Union,
00:06:11.180 she tore up the speech.
00:06:12.740 As Speaker of the House, she tore up the speech. 0.97
00:06:14.080 And I don't think she was hammered as much as she should have because most of the conservative media at that time
00:06:20.640 really didn't have President Trump's back.
00:06:23.000 Got worse later when he left the White House after it was stolen.
00:06:26.580 But she tore up the State of the Union. 0.97
00:06:28.920 Who's ever done that?
00:06:30.860 Remember that?
00:06:31.520 She sat there and mocked with her big smile on her crocodile, you know, 1.00
00:06:34.940 laughing and mocking Trump.
00:06:40.180 Has that ever happened?
00:06:41.400 Ever happening before the Civil War?
00:06:43.980 Now, back then, it wasn't, you didn't come and have an event.
00:06:46.580 They read it.
00:06:48.320 But did the Southern delegation go up there and rip it up?
00:06:51.640 Or the Northern delegation, not liking something Buchanan said, go rip it up?
00:06:57.820 Think about that for a second.
00:06:59.120 And then this was a pep rally.
00:07:01.860 We had Senator Tuberville on yesterday.
00:07:03.380 It was a pep rally.
00:07:04.040 It was a, you know, because Biden can't have rallies the size of President Trump because nobody cares.
00:07:11.300 They got to buy these votes.
00:07:13.820 It was a disgrace.
00:07:15.680 As institutionally, it was a disgrace.
00:07:17.860 It was a full-on political, the State of the Union is supposed to rise above politics and talk about the country.
00:07:25.020 So remember, they will break any norm.
00:07:27.700 They'll break any law.
00:07:29.840 She just said the quiet part out loud right there.
00:07:31.980 She says, well, you know, in democracy, there's a lot of Trump people think he stole, you know, the Biden stole the election.
00:07:36.260 No, we don't think it.
00:07:36.980 We know it.
00:07:37.760 And we've hammered it.
00:07:38.760 And that's why, what, two-thirds of the voters in South Carolina are Republican voters.
00:07:42.020 And now you had that chart up on MSNBC the other day.
00:07:45.060 You know, 60 percent of Republican voters in California, I think 40 percent of independents, and that's really the proxy for the American people.
00:07:53.500 And that's a massive number, 4-0 massive number.
00:07:56.480 Because even Lincoln, I mean, we went to Civil War because it's not that they didn't think Lincoln was legitimate.
00:08:04.320 They knew he had, although a minority president, only won, like, I think 40 percent of the vote, had won the Electoral College, was going to have a term.
00:08:14.580 And that's why they punched out.
00:08:15.580 So these people will break anything, do anything.
00:08:20.540 And we have to watch what she said right there.
00:08:23.320 Yeah, you know, people think he stole the election.
00:08:25.700 He did steal the election.
00:08:27.160 No doubt about it.
00:08:28.120 And you keep hammering that over and over and say, well, you've got to talk about the future.
00:08:31.740 Trump talks about the future every day.
00:08:33.380 We talk about the future.
00:08:34.320 Who does a better job of going through the financial abyss we're about to go over than this show and this audience?
00:08:40.000 Who talks about, you know, having to get zero money to Ukraine because they're not putting more money in there?
00:08:48.180 And they're not going to put any more, you know, it's a hard no.
00:08:52.160 So, yes, elections.
00:08:53.860 Elections are not about the future.
00:08:55.340 Elections are about the lived experience of people today and how they think about the future.
00:08:59.880 But it pivots off.
00:09:02.100 It's founded on.
00:09:03.940 Its foundational element is the lived experience of the nation.
00:09:08.540 Because that is reality.
00:09:11.980 That is not, you know, spin and just like Biden the other day.
00:09:16.900 This jobs report the other day.
00:09:19.220 Americans, American citizens are not getting jobs.
00:09:21.820 All the jobs are going to foreign workers or illegal immigrant invaders, illegal alien invaders. 1.00
00:09:27.960 As Powell and those guys said it was going to.
00:09:30.540 So the narrative here is very, you know, very, very distinct and bold.
00:09:35.960 It's either one side or the other.
00:09:36.940 I keep saying it's not going to be any compromise, shouldn't be a compromise.
00:09:39.440 The only time we continue to lose is when you get Johnson, these guys, in the House and the Senate.
00:09:44.220 And we've got plenty of time to turf them out.
00:09:48.580 In fact, we're going to have a candidate up here in a while.
00:09:51.020 You've got plenty of time in some of these primaries to turf them out.
00:09:54.600 We've got to roll.
00:09:56.160 It's 240 and a wake up.
00:09:57.760 It's upon us.
00:09:58.620 It's here.
00:09:59.020 There's a lot going on in this regard.
00:10:02.300 I want to get, is Cash Patel, Cash, join us.
00:10:05.260 Before I go back and play the clip of you on our show talking about this, tee up what has happened over the last 24, 48 hours, a major development here.
00:10:14.340 I just want to make sure we reset for the audience and I'll play your clip.
00:10:16.880 Yeah, look, Steve, the genesis of the mainstream media's get Trump narrative has been insurrection in court and insurrection in the public media view to kneecap Donald Trump.
00:10:29.300 What just happened is Molly Hemingway's great reporting broke a critical piece of evidence that destroys the insurrection narrative.
00:10:37.600 The January 6th committee withheld and suppressed a transcript from a senior Secret Service officer that completely corroborates what we have said on your show and what we have been saying for years.
00:10:51.200 Me, the secretary of defense, the chairman, joint chiefs of staff and so many other officials that days before January 6th, Donald Trump authorized 10,000 National Guards men and women.
00:11:01.520 Multiple people testified to that, including me in front of committees and grand juries under oath.
00:11:06.320 But the mainstream media hit it and the committee suppressed Tony Ornato's transcript.
00:11:12.360 And it just came out thanks to Molly Hemingway corroborating everything we've been saying.
00:11:17.700 Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff buried this exculpatory evidence of Donald Trump.
00:11:24.360 OK, hang over a second. Tell us who this guy is. Why is this exculpatory evidence?
00:11:29.100 I'll get into the burying in a second. I want to set it for exactly what went on.
00:11:33.340 I want to go back to Chris Miller yourself. You were chief of staff, interim chief of staff over at the Pentagon.
00:11:39.400 Miller was the interim secretary of defense.
00:11:42.380 I want to go back and reset exactly what happened, the facts, and then we'll talk about how they how they buried what they said first is a lie and then how they buried the truth.
00:11:51.460 So tell me exactly what happened here. So Tony Ornato, a career Secret Service officer, a political figure, was employed at the White House as a senior security official, as we say, seconded from the Secret Service.
00:12:05.620 He was in charge of presidential protection.
00:12:07.580 He was there in the White House on January 6th, on January 5th, on January 4th.
00:12:14.360 And in this interview, which he gave to the January 6th committee two years ago, Steve, two years ago, he stated, and everybody should read this interview for themselves repeatedly, that himself and chief of staff Mark Meadows had multiple conversations that day talking about when President Trump days before had authorized the National Guard up to 10 and 20,000.
00:12:37.640 He stated that to the test, to the committee under oath, and they buried his transcript from public release because it would corroborate.
00:12:46.180 Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. I don't want to talk about the burying yet. I want to get the facts.
00:12:51.340 When you say he verified, when he said he verified, you know, I should be the lawyer and you should play the investment banker here.
00:12:57.500 When he said he verified the 10,000, how does he know, what position was he in to verify what you and Miller and President Trump said?
00:13:09.040 So me and Miller and all the DOD officials were at the Pentagon on January 6th.
00:13:14.320 Tony Renato and chief of staff Meadows were in the White House.
00:13:17.420 But two days before that, all of us were at the White House in the Oval Office, and we were talking about a national security project.
00:13:28.580 And that's when President Trump said, I'm authorizing up to 10 to 20,000 National Guards men and women with chief of staff Meadows in the room.
00:13:36.220 Chief of staff Meadows, number one guy for presidential security, Tony Renato, sits outside the Oval Office in a real office, not a Cassidy Hutchinson office.
00:13:46.800 And Arnauto communicated with Meadows immediately about President Trump's statement authorizing 10 to 20,000 National Guards men and women.
00:13:57.240 This is an apolitical career Secret Service senior officer.
00:14:01.060 This guy has nothing to do with politics.
00:14:03.080 He provided this testimony, critical testimony, to the January 6th committee two years ago.
00:14:13.120 And the January 4th, that would be Sunday for January.
00:14:16.800 2020, correct?
00:14:19.680 I think so, yeah.
00:14:21.080 It was, can't remember off the top of my head.
00:14:27.080 Were you in the room?
00:14:28.560 Was the acting Secretary of Defense was there?
00:14:32.400 Were you in the room?
00:14:34.100 Me, the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
00:14:39.460 the Chief of Staff to the President of the United States, and probably one other person, were all in the Oval Office when the President said it.
00:14:46.060 And the reason this is critical is because Chief of Staff Meadows goes out of the Oval and has an immediate conversation with Tony Renato about the authorization of the National Guard.
00:14:55.040 That's what Tony testified.
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00:16:58.800 Cash Patel.
00:17:03.020 Cash, you were on the National Security Council for President Trump.
00:17:07.660 You were really his assistant for counterterrorism.
00:17:10.180 You're a guy that really was Devin Nunes' guy for years on the Intelligence Committee.
00:17:14.260 You went over to the Pentagon.
00:17:15.660 You were the chief of staff at the end.
00:17:17.400 I've got to ask you, knowing President Trump and knowing what happened in those days,
00:17:23.080 correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he actually ask for it?
00:17:26.080 I saw Pelosi, and I think it was Cheney, lighten up President Trump this week.
00:17:30.580 Did President Trump not make a request for actually have troops,
00:17:34.720 given his concern about everything, how heated it was in the run-up to January 6th?
00:17:40.200 Yeah, Steve, it's great to be with you.
00:17:41.440 Thanks for having me on.
00:17:42.560 So, yeah, look, as chief of staff, you know how the military works.
00:17:45.040 It is unconstitutional for any president to order the deployment of the military domestically.
00:17:50.340 The law is crisp.
00:17:51.100 Posse comitatus.
00:17:52.540 Nailed it.
00:17:52.980 Right.
00:17:53.140 The president can make a request, and then the president can make an authorization,
00:17:57.180 and then there has to be a request.
00:17:58.460 January 3rd or 4th, we're in the Oval Office, me, the SECDEF, the chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff,
00:18:02.740 the president and chief of staff of the United States.
00:18:05.300 President Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guards for across the country, not just D.C.,
00:18:10.400 for events related to January 6th.
00:18:12.280 We said, Roger that, sir.
00:18:13.340 That activated the chain of command.
00:18:14.580 We went to Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Bowser sent it to D.C.
00:18:18.020 There has to be, under the law, a local government must request it.
00:18:21.820 We went to her in person two days earlier.
00:18:24.880 She said no in writing.
00:18:26.200 I have Mayor Bowser's letter where she refused the additional support of the National Guard.
00:18:29.880 The Capitol Police's memorandum, who report to Nancy Pelosi, that's also public now.
00:18:34.540 They went, the chief of police went to them, and they said no, no National Guard.
00:18:38.760 So President Trump could not do anything else on January 6th until those requests came in.
00:18:42.960 Hold on, hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:18:44.460 You're telling me you were in the Oval Office.
00:18:46.800 You had, Miller was DOD at the time, interim DOD.
00:18:49.700 Yeah.
00:18:50.360 Yourself, you were chief of staff over there.
00:18:52.900 He actually made an authorization request, because it's got to go out the way Posse Comitatus works.
00:18:57.440 A local authority has to sign it and okay it.
00:18:59.960 You sent that out for the deployment of 20,000, was it?
00:19:08.760 Okay, we're going to cut in, because, okay, that is from, hang on, that is from July of 2022.
00:19:14.860 This is why you watch War Room.
00:19:16.760 God bless Molly Hemingway, and she does great work, and she's got the Secret Service agent now.
00:19:20.620 But that was almost two years ago, a year and a half ago, in Dallas at CPAC Texas, CPAC Dallas.
00:19:27.280 We had Cash Patel.
00:19:28.820 Cash, here's what I don't get, and help the audience out here.
00:19:34.660 The testimony of Chris Miller, and in Chris Miller's book, he's Secretary of Defense.
00:19:38.920 Chris Miller, in his book, talks about this, and it's in his testimony, correct?
00:19:43.840 Yes, sir.
00:19:46.060 Okay, now, hang on.
00:19:47.140 Millie, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testifies to this, correct?
00:19:52.080 Yes, he does.
00:19:54.520 Cash Patel, the chief of staff of the Department of Defense, testifies to this, correct?
00:20:02.960 Yes, multiple times, under oath, committees, and grand juries.
00:20:06.480 Okay, grand juries.
00:20:08.860 I have not checked Meadows.
00:20:10.680 Did Meadows, I haven't checked Meadows for this part.
00:20:13.940 The others have.
00:20:14.880 Did Meadows testify also to this fact in his testimony?
00:20:19.940 I believe so, but I haven't checked his transcript in a while.
00:20:25.000 Okay.
00:20:25.240 So, why is, you have three officials there, two of them, you could argue, oh, these are
00:20:34.200 partisan hacks, and Cash Patel's crazy.
00:20:37.040 So, let's set those aside.
00:20:38.520 But Millie is a known Trump hater, was working with the media at the time, worked with the
00:20:43.300 J6, was a friendly witness to J6, right?
00:20:46.660 Why, why is, why, why is the Secret Service guy who's in the anteroom who gets told by
00:20:51.820 Meadows immediately, why is this such, why is this such a big deal?
00:20:58.240 Because the media never covered Mark Millie's testimony accurately.
00:21:03.600 Mark Millie had to testify to the truth because he was there when we moved the National Guard
00:21:09.440 in the United States military.
00:21:11.400 He was part of that process.
00:21:13.520 And so, he could not obfuscate or dodge the truth.
00:21:17.080 But the media could bury it, which they did.
00:21:19.820 And they just said Mark Millie was the one saving the country that day and talking about
00:21:23.900 his ring of steel and how bad Donald Trump is.
00:21:26.020 He gave him all the ammunition they needed.
00:21:27.560 So, no one actually went and read his transcript and the memorandums from the Department of
00:21:31.860 Defense, including the timeline he signed and put out confirming all of this.
00:21:37.040 And so, they have now a new official, well, not new, but a new transcript that the J6 Committee
00:21:43.820 withheld and suppressed from the American public.
00:21:48.380 And Tony Ornato's testimony clearly shows, clearly shows, Donald Trump could not have committed
00:21:56.140 any insurrection because he preemptively, 48 hours before January 6th, authorized 10,000
00:22:02.800 to 20,000 National Guard men and women.
00:22:05.060 That shows, in one sentence, Donald Trump's complete exoneration of any insurrection, charge,
00:22:12.420 narrative, or what have you, in court or in the public opinion.
00:22:16.100 And that is why the J6 Committee suppressed Tony Ornato's transcript, because it sets Donald
00:22:21.780 Trump free.
00:22:22.540 Okay, so help me out here, because I still don't understand.
00:22:29.300 We just had to go to the Supreme Court and have an historic nine to nothing decision about
00:22:33.560 the Colorado situation in other states.
00:22:36.520 In Colorado, they essentially took, not essentially, they took the J6 Committee report, and people
00:22:43.140 know that I have a big problem with that legally, right, the J6 Committee.
00:22:48.020 But they took the J6 Committee report and just put it in as whole cloth as their justification
00:22:53.640 that he was an insurrectionist.
00:22:56.280 So how could this, how could we be this far down the road in Trump's lawyers and legal team,
00:23:01.280 not all over this crucial piece of evidence, which was Trump 48 hours beforehand on a Sunday
00:23:09.040 afternoon in the Oval Office, directly authorizing the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the
00:23:14.720 Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Chief of Staff of both the White House and the Chief of Staff
00:23:19.980 of the Pentagon, four of them, to authorize 10, up to 20,000 troops throughout the country,
00:23:25.960 with 10,000 in Washington, D.C., to make sure nothing happened?
00:23:28.460 So the president's team had what was publicly available.
00:23:33.720 What the president's, my transcript, the SecDef transcript, the timelines, everything we've
00:23:37.800 put out, Bowser's letter, Capitol Police statement and timeline, rejection of the National Guard,
00:23:42.540 those are all public.
00:23:44.240 But what was withheld, the exculpatory piece of evidence that was withheld from the public
00:23:49.460 that no one had until Molly Hemingway found it and forced it out, was Tony Ornato's transcript
00:23:54.580 corroborating this entire series of events that we've been putting out for two, three
00:23:59.560 plus years now.
00:24:00.820 And that's why they didn't have it.
00:24:02.380 Also, the Colorado Supreme Court case, where I was a lead witness for President Trump, that
00:24:06.600 judge, just like the January 6th committee, suppressed evidence of innocence and exculpatory
00:24:12.460 information.
00:24:13.020 They didn't put in all the material you and I have been talking about because they did not
00:24:17.540 want that in the record.
00:24:19.080 They excluded critical components of testimony that showed President Trump authorized 10 to
00:24:23.900 20,000 National Guard and no one had this Tony Ornato transcript.
00:24:28.360 Otherwise, it should and would have been put in by Trump's legal team in the record.
00:24:32.240 And I think the committee that Loudermilk is running right now is going to put out even
00:24:35.760 more stuff next week.
00:24:37.660 This is just the beginning.
00:24:39.360 And this is the highlight to show people, voters, that the government interfered.
00:24:46.680 You know, God bless Loudermilk and he's doing a good job, but he's a backbencher.
00:24:50.400 Let's be honest.
00:24:50.980 I mean, this is why Johnson and McCarthy should have reauthorized this committee.
00:24:55.660 Let the Democrats, let little Jamie Raskin be the ranking member.
00:24:58.860 Let them have Goldman or whoever they want as counsel.
00:25:01.400 Let them rip apart all the, you know, it's the American legal system. 0.60
00:25:03.960 It's an adversary system.
00:25:05.040 Let them rip apart the evidence.
00:25:06.640 Let them rip apart. 0.65
00:25:07.580 Let them cross-examine you cash like you have been at the grand jury.
00:25:12.480 But just get on with it.
00:25:13.940 This is why we need the American people putting it out through Loudermilk's thing.
00:25:17.220 It's fine.
00:25:17.800 But it's, it's, it's kind of grundoonish. 1.00
00:25:19.840 We need to get serious about this because correct me, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:25:24.560 Did not the evidence show three significant people in this drama?
00:25:31.520 Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House,
00:25:35.960 and Mayor Bowser as the Mayor of Washington, D.C., all actively through their actions thwarted Donald J. Trump from actually providing the necessary security you need on January 6th, sir?
00:25:50.080 Yes, absolutely.
00:25:51.400 And that's what's going to be highlighted in our film, Government Gangsters.
00:25:54.880 This is why this is so critical.
00:25:57.280 The left's mission to take out Donald Trump is based on the insurrection narrative.
00:26:00.920 And just like we did in Russiagate, we use the left's own evidence to destroy their narrative.
00:26:06.500 Like you highlighted, Pelosi rejected Donald Trump's authorization of the National Guard through the Capitol Police.
00:26:12.040 Bowser rejected Donald Trump's National Guard authorization directly in writing.
00:26:17.020 We have those letters.
00:26:17.960 They're in the book.
00:26:18.560 They're going to be in the movie.
00:26:19.280 And Mark Milley and the SECDF were all there to witness it and testify that Donald Trump authorized it.
00:26:25.580 If Donald Trump did, in fact, authorize it, which he did, it is constitutionally impossible for him to commit insurrection in any way, shape or form.
00:26:33.820 The only insurrectionists are the Nancy Pelosi's and Mayor Bowser's of the world and this January unselect committee.
00:26:40.580 No, no, no, no.
00:26:42.580 I tell you why.
00:26:44.000 Because it was a fedsurrection.
00:26:45.880 They knew the fix was in.
00:26:47.740 That's why they thwarted – no rational human being would have ever said you shouldn't have –
00:26:52.580 they made the excuse, oh, we don't want to get people worked up. 0.67
00:26:54.780 But what are you talking about?
00:26:55.680 Aren't people worked up?
00:26:56.540 You keep saying people are worked up.
00:26:58.300 Remember, even when they talked about allowing something to happen, they said they had to station them at Andrews Air Force Base.
00:27:05.480 They had to put – if they were going to put anybody, they had to put them at Andrews Air Force Base, which would, you know, make it meaningless to have.
00:27:13.560 Cash, you get the closing word here for you.
00:27:15.420 I know you've got to bounce.
00:27:16.320 You're going back east.
00:27:17.640 Tell me – give me some closing thoughts.
00:27:20.860 This is just like Russiagate, where they buried evidence of innocence.
00:27:25.600 The FBI buried Donald Trump's exoneration here in January 6th in the insurrection narrative that the radical left has been trotting out with the deep state government gangsters.
00:27:34.540 They themselves, the committee, buried evidence of innocence, which directly corroborates from a senior Secret Service official that Donald Trump authorized 10,000 to 20,000 National Guard men and women days before January 6th.
00:27:49.140 And that destroys, destroys, destroys their insurrection narrative, exonerates Donald Trump.
00:27:55.720 That's why they buried it, Steve.
00:27:57.540 That's why Molly Hemingway's great reporting just released it.
00:28:00.540 She was fervent.
00:28:01.360 She stayed on mission.
00:28:02.360 And that is why they don't want to talk about the truth of January 6th, which is Donald Trump would have enacted to secure every measure in D.C. and around the country.
00:28:12.100 And the only people that thwarted it were Nancy Pelosi, mayor about the Capitol Police. 0.95
00:28:17.880 Molly Hemingway's great reporting in the last 72 hours has been amazing.
00:28:21.260 She's also all over the Fannie Willis situation.
00:28:23.500 I think she has something that could be a deal breaker on Fannie Willis there.
00:28:27.220 We'll hopefully get to that later in the show, if not on Monday.
00:28:29.540 But she is – she's lighting up the boards.
00:28:31.980 She's had a hell of a weekend.
00:28:34.220 Cash, social media, website, where do they go?
00:28:36.580 At Cash, at Truth Social, at KSH on Truth Social only.
00:28:40.760 And then, yeah, can't wait for a big movie, Government Gangsters.
00:28:43.680 Go get the book right now, governmentgangsters.com.
00:28:46.520 Bestseller, soon-to-be war room number one film.
00:28:50.940 Thank you, brother.
00:28:51.920 Thank you, brother.
00:28:52.400 Short commercial break.
00:28:53.520 Dave Brad in the war room, next.
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00:30:13.260 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:30:15.400 Bannon.
00:30:15.760 Okay, so dueling note, that's a huge one.
00:30:20.380 Molly Hemingway is also doing double duty.
00:30:22.520 She's got a huge story on the taping of President Trump and this funny Willis, the thing that kicked it off.
00:30:28.800 We're probably going to get to that on Monday, just given the time.
00:30:31.320 But that's something else I'll get Grayson Moe to put out there so big.
00:30:34.120 But Brad's going to join me in a second.
00:30:38.600 He's going to wear two hats today.
00:30:39.700 We're going to talk about economics, maybe the jobs report, some capital markets.
00:30:43.640 But he's also got some very big picture thoughts and observations is the only day Brad can give us.
00:30:53.700 Part of that, well, that part's going to deal with culturally and civilizationally where we are.
00:31:00.220 One thing I can tell you, they passed, and Senator Hagelin, we know he had Tuberville here.
00:31:03.880 They're going to pass this first step of this massive $7 trillion spending bill with a $2.5 trillion deficit with a trillion dollars being added every day.
00:31:13.980 More than ever, you need to go to birchgold.com slash Bannon.
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00:31:19.180 Four installments.
00:31:19.900 We're putting out a fifth.
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00:31:21.900 Share them.
00:31:23.100 Make notes.
00:31:24.140 Come in the chat rooms and ask us questions about them.
00:31:27.240 But also you've got to talk to Philip Patrick and the team about what does this all mean?
00:31:31.560 What are these converging forces that are getting the BRICS nations to buy gold, their central banks to buy gold at ever-increasing rates?
00:31:40.040 Record rates in 22, record rate in 23, 24, sort of the same way.
00:31:44.000 The de-dollarization movement continues.
00:31:47.060 So go check it out.
00:31:48.980 birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:31:51.740 I want to get John Henry Weston.
00:31:53.220 And John Henry, I understand you're so busy over LifeSite News.
00:31:55.740 This is one of my favorite sites, but you've been on fire.
00:31:57.980 I've got to get you in here today because for Catholics, and particularly we have two very large parts of our audience,
00:32:05.680 the evangelical, a lot of evangelicals in the evangelical movement, also traditional Catholics.
00:32:14.700 You had the guts, I think, to do, John Henry, what a lot of people have been worried.
00:32:20.380 And particularly after this fiasco the other night on Thursday of this State of the Union, I think you've had enough.
00:32:29.240 Now, you've put out, I think, a petition.
00:32:30.700 You want something signed that you're moving to have actually Joe Biden excommunicated by the Catholic Church.
00:32:36.420 That's a pretty bold move coming from another Catholic. 0.96
00:32:39.700 I mean, what gives you the moral right to take the high ground?
00:32:42.760 You know, Biden appears on the surface to be the most churchy of, I mean, a lot more churchy than Jack Kennedy came across, right?
00:32:52.560 He goes to Mass all the time.
00:32:53.780 He's very visible about going to Mass.
00:32:55.980 He's very visible about talking about church, about talking about his faith.
00:32:59.740 He takes the media every time he goes.
00:33:02.340 So why do you want to throw out only the second Catholic president?
00:33:05.480 Why do you want to excommunicate him from the church?
00:33:08.640 So, Steve, thank you for having me on.
00:33:10.500 And Joe Biden is the not only the worst example of a Catholic, but it's the worst exemplar. 0.99
00:33:17.200 He he actually epitomizes the false church. 0.63
00:33:20.620 If you are going to have an anti-Christian stance, it would be Joe Biden, because while on the surface, it's all wonderful, you know, oh, reach out to the poor and this and that.
00:33:29.340 But it's all false on the inside.
00:33:31.320 The Catholic Church has been clear for 2000 years that they don't accept the killing of unborn children in their mother's wombs.
00:33:37.100 And that's what Joe Biden is praised.
00:33:38.480 Not only that, at the State of the Union address, he actually used the name of God.
00:33:41.880 The only time he used the name of God was to talk about what other rights would you deny.
00:33:46.660 And he was speaking specifically about killing children in the womb, about abortion.
00:33:50.360 A million children killed a year, every year.
00:33:53.060 And some of the bishops scandalously run out to give him Holy Communion first.
00:33:57.820 What is excommunication?
00:33:59.020 It is the denial of Holy Communion.
00:34:01.420 It is the casting out of someone just for a time so that they can come back, because Catholics don't want anyone in hell. 0.67
00:34:08.700 Joe is headed to hell right now because he is doing the opposite of what you're supposed to be doing as a Catholic. 0.97
00:34:14.740 So excommunication is a it's an actual help because it shows the person how serious what it is they're doing so that they can turn their lives around and come back to Christ.
00:34:25.240 Look, I'm sorry to say it, but Joe Biden, as everyone can see, is very old.
00:34:29.620 His last day is coming not too long from now, and he's going to meet his maker.
00:34:34.240 And when he does that, Catholics don't want to see him going to hell for all eternity.
00:34:39.440 So it's an act of charity on behalf of the bishops is their responsibility to excommunicate Joe Biden, to show him the seriousness of what he's doing.
00:34:48.820 And if the Catholic bishops aren't doing that, you've got to wonder why, because that's their spiritual responsibility.
00:34:53.560 Well, OK, hang on.
00:34:56.660 Hang on.
00:34:57.320 Are you ordained in the Catholic Church?
00:35:00.380 Not ordained at all.
00:35:01.420 Just a normal, faithful.
00:35:03.000 Do you have any official position in the Catholic Church?
00:35:11.000 As a baptized Catholic and as a brother of Christ to all Catholics in the world, including all the bishops and all the Catholics, in terms of Christ, there is no separation of Jew and Greek, as they say, or of those in high positions or low positions.
00:35:25.740 So we're all equals, and in that, we're brothers and sisters in the Lord, and therefore we call upon our brothers in the Episcopate and the bishop.
00:35:33.980 Hang on.
00:35:35.000 Hang on.
00:35:35.280 I got all that.
00:35:35.900 I got all that.
00:35:37.640 You're a guy in the pews with the rest of us, because the church has got a hierarchy.
00:35:41.340 I mean, it's a priest caste.
00:35:43.080 Right.
00:35:43.500 So it's a hierarchical church.
00:35:45.380 It's one of the reasons we had a Protestant Reformation.
00:35:48.780 It's the reason our evangelical brothers maybe not have the hierarchy.
00:35:51.420 But in our hierarchy, are you anywhere officially in that hierarchy?
00:35:55.520 Yes or no?
00:35:58.140 Yes, in that you're a member of the body of Christ.
00:36:01.740 And so—
00:36:02.820 Got it.
00:36:03.180 I got it.
00:36:04.120 But what it takes—all these little guys in the pews, all of us little guys.
00:36:06.760 Hang on.
00:36:07.240 Hang on.
00:36:07.740 Hang on.
00:36:08.140 Hang on.
00:36:08.640 Hang on.
00:36:08.980 I got that.
00:36:09.560 I got that.
00:36:10.180 I got that.
00:36:10.800 I got that.
00:36:11.360 You're a backbencher with the rest of us.
00:36:13.900 That's right.
00:36:15.340 There are people in the hierarchy, right, and quite powerful people.
00:36:18.900 They're called bishops.
00:36:19.620 And last time I looked, the pope is essentially the bishop of Rome, right?
00:36:23.920 I mean, that's his official—his official gig is the bishop of Rome.
00:36:26.860 And by being the bishop of Rome, you have the keys to St. Peter, unbroken chain, back
00:36:32.100 to the laying of hands on by Jesus Christ.
00:36:34.500 And that's one of the pitches of the Catholic Church, that he's the bishop of Rome, just
00:36:38.420 like Peter was, and this is why he's the pope.
00:36:41.200 Okay.
00:36:41.760 Now, he has lots of other bishops, and including here in the United States, he has lots of bishops.
00:36:45.680 Has any bishop, anybody in official capacity, said anything about Joe Biden's stance on,
00:36:54.780 and particularly his State of the Union the other night, when he couldn't have been more,
00:36:58.940 you could say, pro-abortion, pro-murdering of babies, take it however you want, right?
00:37:04.660 Has anybody in any official capacity come out and even made a peep about Joe Biden and
00:37:10.860 what he stood for on Thursday night?
00:37:12.260 Yes, the canceled bishop, Bishop Strickland, so far.
00:37:16.540 And this is so typical right now.
00:37:18.600 Hang on, hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, ho, ho, ho, hang on,
00:37:22.720 because most of our audience is not Catholic.
00:37:25.160 Bishop Strickland is not technically a bishop—he's still a bishop, but he's a bishop kind of outside
00:37:30.820 the bishop's conference because he got fired.
00:37:32.660 He got fired particularly for stances like exactly the one that you're making.
00:37:38.200 Am I incorrect in that?
00:37:39.020 He's not fired so much as removed from his diocese, but yes, you're right.
00:37:44.400 You're exactly right.
00:37:45.640 In the Navy, we would say relief for cause, right?
00:37:48.660 He's relief for cause.
00:37:49.960 Now, so to go back in a system that's 2,000 years old, that has tons of rules and regulations,
00:37:57.300 much more so than our Protestant brothers and sisters, in that official hierarchy, including
00:38:03.600 the guy that's the Bishop of Rome, last time I looked, the Bishop of Rome was rubbing up
00:38:07.740 on—they got Nancy Pelosi over there. 0.99
00:38:09.640 He's given her communion.
00:38:11.400 Is Nancy Pelosi any really different than Joe Biden in regards to this issue of abortion?
00:38:18.040 No, they're exactly the same.
00:38:19.560 Both are anti-Christ on the issue.
00:38:21.280 And did not the Pope not just greet her, but gave her communion and had pictures all over
00:38:28.400 the world showing that this is his—he super supports Nancy Pelosi?
00:38:33.820 Yeah, he didn't quite give her communion.
00:38:35.060 She received communion at a papal mass.
00:38:36.920 Not only that, on the very day she did that, he was criticizing the bishop in America,
00:38:41.660 Corleone, who just denied her holy communion.
00:38:44.380 So, yeah, no, there's a mess in the Catholic Church equal to the mess in the evangelical 0.99
00:38:48.720 church that they experienced over the last 30 years when they had to fight for orthodoxy
00:38:52.980 inside their own church.
00:38:53.980 Okay.
00:38:55.200 Okay, but hang on for a second.
00:38:56.540 So if the official apparatus of the Catholic Church, all the way up to the head guy, is—and
00:39:01.880 he's been seen with Biden many times—if the official hierarchy in a church that is hierarchical
00:39:07.880 by our standards and practices, not only have nothing to say negatively, but in fact embrace
00:39:15.540 it, embrace it, why, as you as a backbencher, what's your beef?
00:39:22.300 So the whole thing is with the church, you know, the church would follow in the same kind
00:39:33.080 of torture as the head went through the head, being Jesus Christ himself, the mystical body
00:39:36.360 of Christ is called the church, it will follow in a sort of agony and death and resurrection.
00:39:40.860 And it certainly seems like, especially over the last 10 years, the church has been going
00:39:45.060 through this agony where basically it's being betrayed on the inside.
00:39:50.140 In fact, the worst torture of the church is to be betrayed not from the outside, not the
00:39:54.760 persecution, because that makes it stronger, but the persecution from within is the worst
00:39:58.940 torture you can get inside the church.
00:40:00.400 In fact, saints of yesteryear used to say, God shows his most evident anger when he gives
00:40:07.520 to the church priests, who are basically priests in name only, who are ravenous wolves rather
00:40:12.540 than shepherds.
00:40:13.480 And that's our situation today.
00:40:15.340 We have someone who's sitting on the chair in Rome who is not acting like a shepherd, but
00:40:21.640 is acting more like a wolf.
00:40:23.460 And that's why there's this grave distortion about Catholicism today.
00:40:27.060 So instead of picking on Biden, and don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest anti-Biden guy
00:40:32.580 out there, isn't your beef really, the people who should be excommunicated are the bishops,
00:40:39.320 including all the way up to the Pope?
00:40:41.820 Isn't that your real beef is with them?
00:40:43.720 Now with Biden, he's another sinner, but has not been corrected by the official teaching
00:40:48.900 of the church.
00:40:49.740 Isn't your beef with the people that hold the keys to the kingdom and actually are the
00:40:54.000 guardians of the, at least the mechanisms of the promulgation of the truth, sir?
00:41:01.660 Indeed it is.
00:41:02.580 In fact, their punishment is worse than the one for the sinner who is not told or otherwise 1.00
00:41:08.600 told wrongly.
00:41:10.020 Scripture is full of that.
00:41:11.320 The ones that are going to hold the ultimate responsibility are those spiritual leaders
00:41:15.100 that mislead the faithful.
00:41:16.500 It's better for them if a millstone be tied about their necks and they be cast in the sea. 0.97
00:41:20.300 So yes, you're indeed very right.
00:41:21.880 But on the part of the faithful, it is about shining light on these circumstances, which
00:41:27.200 are leading the world into error about the faith, that the faithful need to speak up
00:41:31.660 so that we can have done our part.
00:41:34.760 Yes, that will make the bishops and the Pope more guilty because we've told them, but we
00:41:40.140 need to do that.
00:41:41.160 We've got a petition out now for the excommunication of Biden at LifeSiteNews.com.
00:41:45.620 It's got 40,000 signatures.
00:41:47.640 We need that to get up over 100,000.
00:41:49.600 And we're sending that to every bishop in America.
00:41:51.740 So at least those who will listen, who will listen to the voice of God, which speaks also
00:41:57.120 through the faithful, will actually step up.
00:41:59.960 They need to do that not only for Joe Biden and for America and for the reputation of the
00:42:04.860 Catholic Church.
00:42:05.360 They need to do that for their own souls as well, because that is what hangs in the balance.
00:42:10.080 John Henry, these bishops that continue to support Biden, because they do support him, are they
00:42:19.740 not also, and correct me if I'm wrong here, are they not complicit in the murders that
00:42:23.700 are going on in the United States because of their active push for open borders, their
00:42:27.920 active push for the invasion of this country, their active push for Catholic charities to
00:42:32.200 be one of the NGOs down there that are exacerbating the invasion of this country?
00:42:35.320 Are they not complicit in the murder of women and children that are happening in our nation
00:42:40.140 right now?
00:42:41.580 You know, it's really funny, Steve.
00:42:43.600 I have a friend in the pro-life movement in England who used to say, his name is John
00:42:49.280 Speaton, used to say, the bishops could have ended abortion yesterday.
00:42:53.600 All they needed to do was act in unison on the question.
00:42:56.480 If you had every single politician who was promoting abortion excommunicated, abortion would 0.86
00:43:01.920 have ended in America, in Canada, in Europe a long time ago.
00:43:04.840 The church refused to act.
00:43:06.100 So they're guilty also there.
00:43:08.440 But also with regard to this border crisis, something very strange is going on.
00:43:13.100 They're getting over a billion dollars to assist in this program of illegal immigration, which
00:43:19.660 when you look at it on the outside, it's a whole wonderful, we're helping the poor come
00:43:23.360 in.
00:43:23.580 No, look what's happening at the border.
00:43:25.100 You can see what's happening at the border.
00:43:27.060 Not only are illegals coming through who are a threat to American citizens and who have killed 1.00
00:43:32.080 people, but other people kill people. 0.98
00:43:33.680 The only problem is you go to the border and you realize, oh my gosh, the other side of
00:43:37.900 the border is being led by the cartels.
00:43:41.040 And then you're having this absolutely horrific situation of trafficking of children coming
00:43:46.420 through the border.
00:43:47.100 How?
00:43:47.300 And the Democrats dared to say, oh, they're separating adults from children.
00:43:52.980 No, they weren't.
00:43:54.120 They were doing testing to see.
00:43:59.520 John Henry.
00:44:00.560 The biological parents of these children.
00:44:02.900 I just interviewed.
00:44:04.080 Yeah.
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00:45:19.080 Here's your host, Stephen K.
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00:45:21.820 John Henry, you're looked at among, and for our evangelical brethren, John Henry's looked
00:45:29.800 as one of the most informed reporters and commentators in all the Catholic Church, and
00:45:34.820 LifeSide News has just done such a heroic job.
00:45:38.200 John Henry, what you described, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, and this all goes back
00:45:43.160 to the railhead of Vatican II, and really the embracing modernity instead of standing to
00:45:53.660 fight it, and it's culminating now.
00:45:55.800 Now, are we not on the precipice of a schism in the Church that's every bit as deep as when
00:46:03.320 Luther and the Protestant Reformation happened, sir?
00:46:09.260 Indeed we are.
00:46:10.360 In fact, we're at a precipice in the Church that is led and so confusing for people because
00:46:15.620 people don't understand.
00:46:17.160 Historians, especially one in Europe, Dr. Roberto de Maté, has described it as the same
00:46:23.240 leader, i.e. Pope Francis, leading two churches, the true church and a false church.
00:46:28.440 Pope Benedict, while he was still Ratzinger before he became Pope, wrote in already 1978
00:46:34.880 about the coming church would be much smaller and pure, we would lose the edifices, we would 0.86
00:46:40.120 lose the buildings, because he saw a crisis coming in the church where you would see the
00:46:46.400 church unite itself with modernity, a false church do that, and a true church exists like
00:46:50.620 they have in China, underground, not official, and persecuted.
00:46:55.240 And that is coming, and it's coming from official structures.
00:46:58.280 There's already an underground church going on in America.
00:47:01.760 What do you think happened during COVID when they were shutting everything down, not letting
00:47:06.020 Catholics receive the sacraments properly? 1.00
00:47:08.500 There was underground churches happening, and those same underground churches are being
00:47:12.240 persecuted by the very bishops in the mitres that are running around today.
00:47:17.220 So it is very much shaping up to be what was predicted and the greatest schism, the greatest 0.99
00:47:23.380 separation of Catholics in history.
00:47:25.400 And unfortunately, the majority, and quite a large majority, will be on the side of the
00:47:30.680 sacrificial church, the patriotic church, as they call it in China, with all the money,
00:47:34.900 with all the buildings, and the ones still, you know, in the pomp and ceremony, rather
00:47:39.440 than the ones for the church of Jesus Christ.
00:47:41.680 The ones that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi hold up.
00:47:44.940 Now, Ratzinger took the name Benedict because he said, just like in the Dark Ages, the church
00:47:50.700 was, you know, St. Benedict, with the monastic movement, kept the flame alive in Catholicism,
00:47:57.220 and the church and Christianity during the ages of the Dark Ages.
00:48:02.000 And that's why he took the name.
00:48:03.500 And I would also say that there's evangelical Christian churches that are going back to
00:48:08.700 first century practices that are insanely compelling.
00:48:12.520 And I think you're going to see some interesting things happen over the next couple of years.
00:48:15.440 But people have to understand where the money and power is, is not where truth is.
00:48:21.220 And we're seeing that nothing should put it in people's faces about what Joe Biden did on
00:48:25.520 Thursday night. John Henry, where do people get your, where do they get to your petition
00:48:29.860 and read about it and contemplate and pray and see if they want to sign? Because signing
00:48:33.580 that is a big deal, I think, particularly when the bishops haven't done anything and are
00:48:38.340 supporting this guy. It's a very big deal. So people, it's not something you should just
00:48:41.200 get and sign. You should pray over it, think about it, and then see. But I want to give
00:48:45.060 people access to it. Where do they go?
00:48:46.600 Go to lifesitenews.com, L-I-F-E-S-I-T-E-N-E-W-S.com. It's where we have news every day following
00:48:55.620 all these things in America, in Canada, in Europe, all over the world. All the most important
00:49:00.660 things are there, 30 articles a day, every day, video offerings every single day as well. So
00:49:04.860 it's a full newspaper on life, faith, family, and freedom, and hopefully of benefit to many. So go to
00:49:10.320 the petition right top of the page. You'll see it right away, lifesitenews.com. And if you feel
00:49:16.580 called, sign on to encourage the bishops to excommunicate Joe Biden for their souls, for Joe
00:49:22.800 Biden's souls, and for the soul of America, which hangs in the balance right now.
00:49:29.740 By the way, it's so ironic that Joe Biden said this is a fight over the soul of America.
00:49:34.100 I think he's right. John Henry Weston, thank you, brother. You're remarkable.
00:49:38.000 Always good to be with you, Steve. Thank you for having me. God bless you.
00:49:42.480 Thank you. Dave, Brad, I always turn to you in times like this. Help me out here, brother.
00:49:47.820 Well, you don't need much help. Brother John Henry there was on the target. He brought up the idea
00:49:55.300 of the shepherd in the Catholic tradition, and he mentioned orthodoxy. Everything he said is,
00:50:00.760 of course, orthodox. And so he should be applauded by every Christian out there, right? The folks in
00:50:07.820 China to the U.S. In the Bible, it's interesting that Jesus only brings up the, you know, the word
00:50:14.400 sinner or whatever, seven or eight times. But he is referred to the good shepherd over and over and
00:50:21.120 over. And of course, the good shepherd goes over the one lost sheep is the famous teaching. And
00:50:26.820 there's 500 mentions of the shepherds throughout the Bible in its entirety. And the great pinnacle of
00:50:33.820 shepherd in the Hebrew scriptures is, of course, King David. And Jesus comes out of the house of
00:50:39.480 King David as the shepherd. And so there's a breakdown here that gets to what's going on in
00:50:45.300 our country. The shepherd, the conception applies to the individual. Of course, if you're lost,
00:50:52.280 right, if you're one of the lost sheep, and we're all lost, you know, that's, go read Genesis 3.
00:50:58.380 None of us goes through every day having our head on straight. And so if you're lost out there,
00:51:03.600 if you don't, if you're not religious, the idea that you feel lost means you're lost from some
00:51:08.340 thing. And that some thing is likely upstairs with God the Father. And, you know, Jordan Peterson is
00:51:14.380 just phenomenal on all of that. But then when it comes to the nation state, things are different.
00:51:21.280 That's a different category. And our nation is clearly lost right now, right? And so it requires a
00:51:27.720 shepherd at the highest level leading the country. The Hebrew scripture, again, the Old Testament and
00:51:33.120 the New Testament, Christ comes with a unique mission, but he is the King of Kings. And God has
00:51:39.380 always called great kings to lead the nation. And of course, nations don't have souls, right? A nation
00:51:46.600 does not have a soul that can be saved. That teaching comes out of Rousseau, very dangerous stuff,
00:51:52.640 the general will. There's a bunch of Christians in this country. It's a Christian country in the sense
00:51:58.120 that all of our institutions were set up by Christians from Harvard University to James Madison
00:52:03.160 writing the Constitution, all based on the Judeo-Christian West. But in the New Testament,
00:52:11.040 the teachings on what the rulers are up to has to do with a whole nother realm, right? That shepherd of
00:52:16.720 the country is Romans 13. They come to wield a sword and power. And it's not about love, right? Love
00:52:26.340 is ultimately at the individual level. It's hard enough for us to love our neighbor. That's a hard,
00:52:32.420 hard teaching. At the level of the nation state, as Reinhold Niebuhr taught, you know, kind of on the
00:52:38.660 liberal fringe of the Protestant, not the fringe of the Protestant community, justice. And he said,
00:52:44.900 just proximate justice, proximate, trying to get at justice is the best you should expect of a nation
00:52:51.600 state. Well, right now we're falling apart, right? We had peace and prosperity back under the last
00:52:57.320 administration. President Trump takes all sorts of heat, but we had peace and prosperity in the New
00:53:03.360 York Times refers to a return to normalcy with President Trump. So that's what's at stake.
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