Bannon's War Room - Episode 3453： Victories For MAGA; Saving The Economic Future Of The US

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:09.400 medieval on this people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:15.980 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've tried

00:00:19.980 to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen

00:00:23.160 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any

00:00:31.160 of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that

00:00:37.900 answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:46.960 it's monday 11 march year of earlier 2024 this date four years ago it was officially declared

00:00:56.460 that this was a pandemic we're getting all of that jim rickard's going to join us here in a moment

00:01:01.520 got a lot of geopolitics capital markets to talk about brian costello's going to get back here with

00:01:05.460 tiktok i got some breaking news mike lindell joins us mike robin voss uh i'm hearing from people on

00:01:13.060 the ground there that you guys have more than enough signatures to begin the recall process

00:01:16.780 you've actually gotten the amount of signatures and more that would actually qualify for a recall

00:01:21.580 of the speaker of the house of wisconsin yeah that's exactly right steve but we needed a little

00:01:26.960 over 6 500 signatures but we've got over 10 800 and um and robin uh now they now he gets like 10 days

00:01:37.120 uh they we turn him in today and then he gets like 10 days uh to challenge the signatures and then

00:01:44.340 uh the recall for voss has we have five days to respond to that so if he tries to say some of

00:01:51.040 these signatures aren't great we've got about 4 000 extra so good luck on that boss uh and then he has

00:01:57.040 uh two days to file response to the recall response this whole process takes about 10 15 days and then

00:02:04.180 the wac the wisconsin election commission has to issue a ruling within 31 days whether there will be a

00:02:11.140 recall or not now we have more than enough signatures so there should be a recall and that

00:02:15.660 primary election will be on april 23rd everybody and this is great news uh for me uh other than

00:02:23.300 putting brad rassenberger in prison i couldn't ask for a better thing getting robin voss ousted from

00:02:28.400 wisconsin we're tired of blockers like robin voss steve we're not going to put up with it anymore

00:02:33.580 uh by the way i'm have hoffed on at six o'clock tonight to talk exactly about that about raffensberger

00:02:40.440 new breaking news down there about his potential criminality with fonnie willis all of it hoff to

00:02:45.360 be on from gateway punt at that time i want to give a hat tip to maga i want to give a hat tip

00:02:49.660 to the war on posse you now have in play the speaker of the house of wisconsin on a recall

00:02:54.920 and you've got a runoff election down in texas with speaker of the house not too shabby you removed

00:02:59.700 the speaker of the house in congress for the first time in the history there's republican you got two

00:03:04.180 of the biggest most prominent states in the union with the speakers of the house are on the run

00:03:08.420 so bravo zulu as we say in the naval services mike uh real quickly i know you got to get to a big

00:03:14.260 event with steve stern support president trump today our our audience is saying hey i hear that i love the

00:03:19.820 fact we got the got the signatures for robin voss but talk to me about deals mike lindell what deals you

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00:05:34.560 afternoon we're gonna talk about the supreme court it is going to be in the 14th i think now so

00:05:38.760 we got a lot of updates in the supreme court move of mike lindell so uh in summary thank you mike i

00:05:43.940 know you gotta get to the event say hi to steve stern i think general flynn's gonna be there this

00:05:47.600 is a big mag event down there support president trump uh in uh south florida uh in the palm beach

00:05:53.180 area uh and you can go to steve stern's site right now if you still want to attend i think there's still

00:05:57.120 some tickets i just want to put in perspective the power of the war on posse the power of maga the

00:06:02.800 power of all the different groups out there that work we removed uh mccarthy because of the debt

00:06:08.800 ceiling deal because he's burying us an avalanche of debt records is going to be here in a moment

00:06:12.620 we're going to talk to jim about this biden's dropping his 2025 uh budget today you're going

00:06:19.780 to see it's another two trillion they're going to say oh it's taking three trillion dollars off

00:06:22.940 the 10 years don't give me i don't want to hear the out years give me the give me period zero the

00:06:27.660 reality and the real number you're projecting for taxes because it could be another two trillion

00:06:31.320 dollar deficit another two trillion dollars added on to the two and a half you're going to have this

00:06:35.900 year so you're going to be at i don't know 37 or 38 when president trump gets here this is why i said

00:06:42.120 earlier one of the top hedge fund guys it's up on zero hedge this morning is saying you're going to

00:06:46.520 have a sovereign debt crisis in the united states of america not in not in sub-saharan africa not in the

00:06:53.100 middle east not in latin america or central america or southeast asia in the united states

00:06:57.980 because it's not sustainable uh rickard's going to be in a second to talk about but in that process

00:07:03.700 you took out mccarthy because that speaker first time in the history of the republic you've now got

00:07:07.900 a recall that's working its way through the system they drop over 10 000 signatures a day

00:07:12.100 speaker of the house of wisconsin a state we have to win uh and this guy's one of the worst of the uh of

00:07:18.720 letting the election be stolen in 2020 and he got the speaker of the house in texas it's on a on a uh

00:07:24.440 it's on a runoff in may for the first time in history it's just incredible our first time in

00:07:29.480 i think 52 years with the speaker first time in 52 years the speaker house so you're on a roll right

00:07:34.440 now they hold them accountable so brian i got a but it all ties back to neil shen and and uh in

00:07:41.980 sequoia capital and because sequoia capital is taking pension fund money of american citizens

00:07:46.840 and partner with the ccp i know this is not the perfect solution the perfect solution was what

00:07:54.100 president trump wanted to do president trump's first take on this was the correct take and that

00:07:58.120 was to take the whole thing down given that and where we are is this not a good interim first step

00:08:03.660 at least to try to get some control of this before election day yeah i think listen getting it on the

00:08:08.880 table before the election you know and and steve i think trump's position could be you know let's not

00:08:15.760 confuse his position trying to win an election with everything rigged against him with what he

00:08:19.600 might do when he's actually in office one this is going to be addressed before he's in office

00:08:24.140 uh uh and i think they want to address it before they go into office because they know where trump's

00:08:29.720 heart really stands on it uh so they don't they don't want to put it in his hands and he's you know

00:08:34.340 gotta make sure this isn't being used as a tool against him in the election with everything else so i

00:08:38.780 think that's extremely important so i think the representatives out there who are voting on it think

00:08:43.380 twice about it does does trump really want you not to vote for this uh because because i would

00:08:47.660 argue that he does uh he's just trying to protect himself with with you know weapons being used

00:08:53.220 against him including you know potential election interference with china uh as much as he can to

00:08:58.880 to win this thing so we do the right things yeah i mean this thing's a weapon steve it needs to be it

00:09:03.820 needs to be addressed yeah kudos to mike gallagher for you know this is yeah i haven't been crazy about

00:09:11.320 the gallagher committee but this is a positive stuff and i'm gonna take two to president trump

00:09:18.020 says hey we got to go after facebook it's going to make facebook five times more powerful i don't

00:09:22.180 know if that's true but we do have to go after facebook there's no doubt about it and what

00:09:26.520 zuckerberg does i mean this i was adamant about zuckerberg not even coming into the white house to

00:09:30.360 see president trump because he's just poison and you saw how he tried to rig the election for his own

00:09:34.880 personal account but facebook's terrible darren beady's got a great piece up that i'm pushing out 0.96

00:09:39.380 on revolver it says hey don't get lost in tiktok google's the dark star i agree with that you got

00:09:46.260 to take care of tiktok you still have time to go after google also google's another these these we live

00:09:52.720 in a techno feudalism i think a new author calls it right not capitalism but techno feudalism with these

00:09:58.000 guys being the sociopathic overlords and so they all have to be taken on but we can't back off any of

00:10:03.340 it brian where do people go to your social media because on on your twitter account you explain all

00:10:09.960 this and you go into great depth of who neil shen is what sequoia capital is part of it new uh moritz

00:10:15.580 how this money gets funneled back to the democratic party they give a taste to the republicans so where

00:10:20.700 do people go yeah and i think steve just want real quick i think the lead's buried on this right this

00:10:26.620 is about the oligarchs in the u.s who have investments in china and are about to make oodles

00:10:32.100 of money off uh his bike dance tiktok investment and they've bought washington that that's the real

00:10:37.480 story here that's that's really what's happening with with tiktok uh twitter bp costello uh or x i

00:10:43.860 guess as as we call it and i try and get pretty detailed in terms of how we describe what's going on

00:10:49.300 here and get real information to the american people on it i'm gonna try to get you back on it more

00:10:55.340 if your schedule is clear to talk about the murder investigation going on uh on elaine chow that

00:11:00.540 mcconnell's sister-in-law he he resigns right with the day that the blanco county uh shifts it from a 0.97

00:11:06.060 suicide to a murder investigation uh brian you're amazing don't ever change brother you're a hammer

00:11:11.860 yes thanks steve uh the unbelievable unbelievable the situation so the tiktok vote i think will be on

00:11:20.940 wednesday but look they're all president trump's right facebook's another problem it hasn't been addressed

00:11:25.140 google is even a bigger problem but you got to take them as they come there's never been a more

00:11:30.680 perfected weapon of information warfare with that algorithm in this platform than tiktok right now

00:11:36.980 you see the young people they they last week they uh they they they flooded dc with calls some people

00:11:44.900 don't even know what a congressman was some of these young people and i think that put people on notice

00:11:48.460 this thing is dangerous you just see in the in the uh hamas the muslim brotherhood hamas war 0.99

00:11:53.540 what it's done to promulgate false narratives coming out of coming out of uh information warfare

00:11:59.900 coming that pushed by the chinese communist party the chinese communist party remember their their

00:12:04.980 their sole function is to take down the judeo-christian west because the united states of 0.56

00:12:10.820 america president trump talked about that today about this is his uh his idea is to not let just the

00:12:17.740 dollar crumble and to let this de-dollarization movement continue on and that in uh his thing

00:12:24.000 at cnbc today was just absolutely incredible jim rickards uh they try to trip president trump up

00:12:30.060 today by saying melissa lee saying oh well you know we've been downgraded because of january 6

00:12:36.440 and he blew her up and said lady we've been we've been downgraded because guys didn't fight on the

00:12:43.480 debt ceiling deal and the debt's running out of control what is your what is your response to to

00:12:47.780 to uh uh oh melissa lee excuse me melissa lee saying that uh the downgrades are because of january 6

00:12:53.900 yeah i mean that that's complete nonsense first of all you have to understand these these rating

00:12:58.640 agencies uh you know fitch and s p and um a couple others um they are extremely reluctant to

00:13:05.320 downgrade the u.s debt it's a lesson they want to do they've got all kinds of other things going on

00:13:09.340 dealings with the government etc for them to do that at all we have to be really on the wrong path

00:13:15.160 and we've been getting there for uh at this point 25 years this goes all the way back to george w bush and

00:13:21.380 then uh continues through um obama trump and uh and biden so uh it's a very big deal it's nothing to do

00:13:28.240 january 6 that's just nonsense it's not even a good talking point because it's just uh just not true

00:13:33.140 um i want to get back into this a second we're going to take a break here in a minute and jim

00:13:40.260 you're going to be here and you can stay a couple of segments with us so here's today is uh we're on

00:13:44.780 a path and they're going to approve they got approved by by 22 march the second part of this budget

00:13:50.780 package what they call minibus and unless we can rally people and i'll be brutally frank with people

00:13:56.660 there are people that are saying hey i think we're going to lose this one so let's just sit it out

00:14:01.040 unless we can rally people if they pass that they are locking in a two to two and a half trillion

00:14:06.580 dollar deficit in the fiscal year we're in at the same time they're going to drop a budget on us uh

00:14:12.280 in a little while that shows another two trillion dollars for the for the year that president trump

00:14:18.080 takes back over that's four to maybe five trillion dollars of additional debt in the span of uh of two

00:14:26.220 years i'm going to ask you about the sustainability of and how how concerned wall street is we're

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00:16:22.220 so jim you've been doing this for a long time my theory of the case is backed up by some guys today

00:16:32.260 on zero hedge and i've said this now for a couple years is that um we're heading toward a we're heading

00:16:38.760 towards a sovereign debt crisis in the united states for the united states not some third world

00:16:45.320 country and not some of the imf or world banks lending to i'm talking about u.s government

00:16:50.000 securities to right now that we don't have the guts to force them to shut down the border or shut down

00:16:57.100 the government to get in and that didn't even talk about spending cuts there's no discussion up there

00:17:01.980 at all on spending cuts and you're about to have a budget today they'll start to work through the

00:17:06.080 process i mean how can this man if president trump finally addressed today about de-dollarization he

00:17:11.300 said he started banging heads together and if they want to go the chinese system they want to go

00:17:15.360 something the the a basket of currencies backed by gold with the bricks then he says i have at it but

00:17:21.240 you know we may not trade with you so what are your thoughts about this the sustainability to to to stay

00:17:27.380 what do we have to do to avert a sovereign debt crisis here in this country well obviously the debt

00:17:33.480 situation is not sustainable but it's important to understand exactly why so you hear a two trillion

00:17:38.460 dollar deficit this year that's a very big deal you hear 34 trillion dollars of national debt that's

00:17:45.280 a very big deal but you have to put those numbers in context they're big numbers of course but why are

00:17:50.040 they dangerous why do they point in the direction you're describing uh there's a very simple ratio

00:17:54.700 this is you know sixth grade math you have to take the debt divided by gdp the gross domestic product

00:18:00.260 and look at that ratio because no matter how big the debt is if your if your economy is big enough

00:18:05.620 you can afford the debt but if it's not you can't and so what is the ratio today right now it's

00:18:10.840 135 roughly 34 trillion dollars of debt divided by 25 trillion dollars of gdp round numbers that's 135

00:18:20.000 that's way in the danger zone that's the highest in u.s history at the end of world war ii we won

00:18:26.420 world war ii with our allies it was 120 percent that was existential today it's even higher than

00:18:32.680 that you look at the history of u.s debt it's not straight up and it didn't go from you know

00:18:37.120 alexander hamilton to uh to joe biden in a straight line it's a cycle goes up and down up and down

00:18:43.240 generally speaking it goes up during wars we win the war and then it goes down in peacetime so we have

00:18:48.980 dry powder in case there's another war in which there always has been that changed with george w bush it

00:18:54.780 didn't go down uh you know reagan ran the deficit up but we won the cold war like i say we we got

00:19:00.540 something for our money when reagan was sworn in that ratio i talked about was 30 percent

00:19:04.940 when andrew jackson left office it was zero 1836 was the last time the u.s had no national debt

00:19:12.400 so we if you said where's the danger hang on hang on hang on that's my populist nationalist here is

00:19:18.680 general jackson hey he he wasn't a big fan of uh of the bank of the united states not a big name in

00:19:24.160 central bank so you would agree not a big name at all he did two things he abolished the central bank

00:19:29.420 and eliminated the national debt when he left office there was no no central bank and no national

00:19:34.300 debt nice nice going uh president jackson that was the last time um so then we got another got our third

00:19:40.460 central bank in 1913 thanks to woodrow wilson but but my point steve is 135 off the charts which

00:19:47.320 where's the red line where's the danger zone when you cross into territory where you don't even

00:19:52.640 you borrow a dollar you spend a dollar and you don't even get a dollar of gdp you get less than

00:19:58.380 you borrowed that number is about 90 there's a ton of research that backs that up so we're we're way

00:20:04.160 in the red zone uh highest in history and we didn't we haven't won any wars i mean i'm not uh i'm i'm not

00:20:10.620 a war advocate i'm just saying that the only time the debt gets that high is when you're in a war

00:20:14.480 we're not and so this is jim jim jim jim hang hang on but hang hang on the professor at harvard was a

00:20:21.560 roger he wrote a book about this because every time this happens the the finance minister and the

00:20:27.180 head of government whether it's a king a czar a president a prime minister they always say the same

00:20:32.940 thing this time it's completely different right what is the book what is what did the book tell us

00:20:39.380 about that well it's exactly as you described kind of what i was describing rather ken rogoff the

00:20:44.800 harvard professor yeah brilliant guy i've spoken with him has a brilliant collaborator carmen reinhardt

00:20:50.920 who's now the chief economist as well back but it's reinhardt and rogoff together have done this

00:20:56.000 research they've sliced it every which way developed economies only developing economies only

00:21:02.120 10 year time series 100 year time series no matter which way they slice it they get the same result

00:21:07.560 which is when you go past 90 growth slows down you don't get you don't get a dollar's worth of

00:21:13.340 growth for your dollar of debt in fact you just get into a worse ratio because you're increasing the

00:21:18.920 numerator with the debt but you're not increasing the denominator with with the economic growth and

00:21:24.520 so you cannot borrow your way out of a debt crisis that's the lesson now one one important distinction

00:21:29.500 makes the u.s a little bit different often these debt disasters which again reinhardt and rogoff

00:21:35.100 document brilliantly are in countries that borrow in dollars but don't print dollars the classic

00:21:41.380 case is argentine i mean you can set your watch by argentine every 10 years they default on the debt

00:21:46.640 but they print pesos and they borrow dollars the u.s is different because we print dollars but we borrow

00:21:53.740 dollars so in theory we could just pay off the debt by printing the money but then what does that mean

00:21:59.520 well it means one of two things one first of all you have slow growth that's that's the immediate

00:22:03.860 danger is really slow growth uh so you can't you know kind of dig your way out of the hole and the

00:22:09.200 second one is hyperinflation that's the american way uh to say okay i owe you a trillion dollars here's

00:22:14.920 your trillion dollars steve good luck buying a loaf of bread because i inflated the currency so there's

00:22:20.060 no reason for the u.s to default on this debt because we can print the money but the money might not be

00:22:24.900 worth very much after the hyperinflation that's the real danger the cbo has come out we've talked

00:22:32.320 about this it came out i think a month ago a month and a half ago and put out its new 10-year forecast

00:22:37.140 i think annually put it out their forecast is for one to one and a half percent growth right there

00:22:43.120 they're telling you and the secret of that they've baked in the they baked in the illegal immigrants here 1.00

00:22:48.380 as consumers and to drive wages down but they're telling us one to one and a half percent growth

00:22:54.340 our economy our society really can't function at one and a half percent growth correct i mean it's

00:23:00.480 just not our social compact is not made up with one and a half percent growth not enough action is

00:23:06.180 happening uh jim that that that's exactly right from 1983 to 1986 under ronald reagan coming out of a

00:23:14.160 pretty bad recession in 1982 in those three years we had 16 percent real growth over five percent per

00:23:21.900 year three years in a row now that's maybe higher than potential but that that was real growth that

00:23:27.080 wasn't inflationary growth uh but if you said the u.s potential mature economy potential is about three

00:23:32.600 and a quarter three and a half if your potential is three and a half and you're growing one and a half

00:23:37.600 that's it that's a depression that's not is it isn't a depression you know continuous quarters of

00:23:43.060 declining gdp no a depression is growth below potential so potential is three and a half and

00:23:49.400 you're growing one and a half that's depressed growth and we are in a long depression i've been

00:23:54.560 since 2007 and what makes it worse is of course that growth is not nearly enough to cover the increase in

00:24:00.340 the debt by the way you look at uh gdp in uh 2023 it was decent and fourth quarter of 2023 it was

00:24:07.840 actually relatively strong uh but but then you have to say well why was that well the answer was

00:24:12.640 federal spending this isn't uh everyone looks at the fed oh the fed's money printing etc feds are

00:24:18.020 actually not printing money they're burning money they're actually reducing their balance sheet

00:24:21.140 this uh i won't call it stimulus but this growth comes from fiscal policy it comes from deficit spending

00:24:27.000 so yeah if the government spends enough money you know the misnamed inflation reduction act build back

00:24:32.140 better uh the inflation reduction act is just a green new scam and you know sheep's clothing um built

00:24:37.720 back better uh the covet handouts uh you know etc you mean you know the whole whole litany uh the

00:24:44.320 baseline deficit is about a trillion a year but we've been running to two and a half trillion a year

00:24:49.760 because we throw on top of it you know stimulus programs uh war in ukraine special appropriations

00:24:55.560 etc um and we're just we're just digging a deeper hole so um we're not going to grow our way out of it

00:25:01.460 that forecast is probably optimistic i mean we we could very well be in a recession right now the

00:25:07.800 funny thing about recessions is the the uh the referees the the bureau in cambridge massachusetts that

00:25:12.980 tells you when you're in a recession it's usually like a year after the fact like thanks a lot

00:25:17.500 i knew i was in recession a year ago but thanks for telling me uh we could be in a recession right

00:25:22.020 now so that's that's negative growth isn't isn't the reason that biden's numbers are so low

00:25:29.120 they're 36 percent i think overall for handling the economy but if you look at independence it's

00:25:34.000 in the 20s and that's really a proxy for the american people it takes out the partisans

00:25:37.960 is this fiscal mismanagement or it's fiscal radicalness is this still based upon this theory

00:25:45.200 of modern monetary theory do we still have people up there to believe that because the the political

00:25:49.720 class is unable to address this i mean we've been hammering on this show with every piece of leverage

00:25:55.200 we can get but it's obviously the political class won't do it do they actually are as embedded in

00:25:59.680 their minds this uh modern monetary theory i i doubt there are five congress uh members of congress

00:26:07.320 who can explain modern monetary theory but they all believe in it they're all doing it whether they

00:26:12.040 understand it or not now the big brain here is a professor at state university of new york

00:26:16.840 stephanie kelton met her very nice lady but she is completely misguided on this she was bernie

00:26:23.720 sanders economic advisor in the 2016 campaign she was um economic advisor to the senate budget

00:26:29.800 committee when uh when bernie sanders was on the committee she's the brain behind modern monetary

00:26:35.460 theory but what modern monetary she wrote a book by the way i think everything in the book is

00:26:39.640 severely misguided but you should read the book because it's their it's their playbook it's called

00:26:45.700 the deficit myth but for example i'll give you an example what she said this is these are her words

00:26:50.300 not mine she said the government bond market is just a favor to investors it's a place to put

00:26:56.220 your money we don't actually need it we could give the federal reserve wire instructions to lockheed

00:27:00.960 and they could just send the money right to lockheed why why go through the trouble of borrowing it and

00:27:05.200 money etc that's how um detached from reality modern monetary theory is and it says you can have

00:27:12.180 unlimited i've mentioned the debt to gdp ratio i said we're in the danger zone that's what

00:27:16.640 reinhardt rogoff demonstrate empirically uh stephanie kelton says there is no danger zone you can go

00:27:21.840 as far as you want uh and if you have a little bit of inflation raise taxes that's that's another

00:27:26.700 uh you know aspect of this so yes this is modern monetary theory in action which is not modern by the

00:27:32.580 way this goes back to uh greg nopp who was a german economist in the early part of the 20th century

00:27:37.360 um it's uh you know it's called chartalism has different names but it basically says yeah it was

00:27:42.660 as long as you print the money that the debt is denominated in you can have as much debt as you

00:27:47.260 want um that's true but it doesn't mean there are no consequences the consequences are your currency

00:27:54.120 collapses in foreign exchange markets you get hyperinflation uh and you destroy wealth that

00:27:59.580 those are the consequences the the weimar republic uh jim stick around if you say for a little longer

00:28:05.940 short commercial break jim rickards joins us on the other side

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00:29:48.760 okay jim rick arts is with us jim i think reason people love when you come on the show so much is that

00:29:57.300 you're not just a uh a theoretician i mean you know the stuff deeply like like almost like an academic

00:30:03.440 but you're you're a practitioner and uh and and one thing that you you know so well and can connect

00:30:10.100 dots is the uh the importance of currency in all these discussions unless you really understand

00:30:16.160 currency if you understand monetary theory how how talk how attaches to fiscal uh theory uh then you

00:30:25.440 kind of understand how the world works and that's why strategic intelligence where you also throw in

00:30:29.320 the geopolitical the national security the military and the politics of it is uh is such a great read

00:30:35.280 how do people get strategic intelligence because i know a lot of folks who have known about you heard

00:30:40.360 about you naturally coming on the show want to know more so where do they go thanks steve we have a

00:30:46.240 a website uh rickardswarroom.com rickardswarroom.com if you go there you can subscribe to strategic

00:30:54.700 intelligence but we also have a free offer and this is exclusive for the war room posse a free copy of

00:31:00.500 my book currency wars that was my first book it's still timely and fresh and uh covers all the issues

00:31:06.440 we're talking about on the show so if you go to rickardswarroom.com subscribe to strategic

00:31:11.720 intelligence and exclusive to the war room posse you get a free copy of currency wars

00:31:15.880 by the way that's a first way i've heard about jim for years on wall street but the first time i

00:31:22.740 really got to know him intellectually was i bought a copy of currency wars and it really changed my

00:31:27.580 thinking about a lot of things brother you've been doing this for a long time have you ever i mean

00:31:34.180 we're in a situation i say this all the time that all the easy choices are in backwards you mentioned

00:31:39.480 recession uh a little while ago i don't know how you get out of this without i mean biden's

00:31:45.880 driving us off the cliff but i don't know if practical people even president trump if you get

00:31:50.700 in there i don't even know how you get out of this mess without some sort of recession hitting because

00:31:56.280 right now it's so turbocharged with just fiscal irresponsibility and this is not simply the biden

00:32:04.400 regime they are definitely fiscally irresponsible but you heard tommy tuberville on here on on friday

00:32:10.000 the whole political class of i mean the democrats are insane he says no democrat ever he's seen any

00:32:15.460 democrat ever ask for any financial or economic analysis of anything it's just you got to spend

00:32:20.520 more you know they they call it investments i mean have you ever seen us in in in the situation

00:32:26.100 this country in a situation like we're in today uh not the united states i've got to go back to maybe

00:32:32.200 the 1870s but even then we had we had strong growth it was it was deflationary but if you want

00:32:37.660 to model for where the united states is right now it's japan now the irony of that is that the modern

00:32:43.220 monetary theorists you know the mmt crowd they go well japan has a 300 percent debt to gdp ratio so

00:32:49.580 what's the big deal we're only 135 well here's the big deal japan has had nine recessions since

00:32:56.320 1989 nine recessions since 1989 i would describe the whole uh 30 year period as one long depression

00:33:04.860 by the way it was about a few weeks ago that the japanese stock market got back to where it was

00:33:10.800 on january 1st 1990 january 1st 1990 it was 40 000 a couple weeks ago it got to 40 000 well i'm sorry 30

00:33:18.980 years to recover your losses nine recessions in 30 years that's japan so don't hold japan up it well you

00:33:25.560 can't actually japan is the model for what the united states is going through it's just going

00:33:29.180 to be one long slot the here's the best case best case is recession after recession low growth higher

00:33:35.920 debt that's the best case worst case is you have hyperinflation or an acute debt crisis where people

00:33:42.440 actually reject u.s treasury so uh as an investment so either the treasury market collapses hyperinflation

00:33:49.280 or just a long period of slow growth uh those those are those are the three options and again

00:33:54.600 history and empirical analysis back that up

00:33:57.440 you're saying your your best case analysis is the what they call the lost decades of almost like

00:34:05.540 stagflation uh that japan's gone through then compare and contrast that to what we heard thursday

00:34:10.600 night because i heard a very different message coming from from biden and you know we watched all the

00:34:17.280 news analysis on msnbc and cnn not one not one analyst brought up anything about the economy they

00:34:25.540 all kind of just hyped up how great the economy is so how could biden how could biden's mindset be so

00:34:31.220 far off where your analytics take you there is a um a disjoint disconnection of some kind between how

00:34:40.100 the white house views the economy and how everyday americans view the economy i'll i'll go with the

00:34:45.440 everyday americans every time and that's my own view so the reason the white house doesn't talk

00:34:50.320 much about the economy is because they say hey it's all good you know 2.6 percent growth uh low

00:34:56.260 unemployment um you know relatively low interest rates although they've been going up a little bit

00:35:01.480 lately etc it's all good but here's the experience of everyday americans first of all the reason

00:35:06.760 unemployment is low is because a proliferation of part-time jobs we have we've lost full-time jobs but

00:35:14.400 we've created part-time jobs so right away part-time jobs don't fill the bill they don't they don't pay

00:35:19.180 the bills they don't you don't get enough real earnings out of that number one number two a large

00:35:24.760 percentage of these part-time jobs i'm describing are going to illegal immigrants they they are and

00:35:29.440 that's very well documented it used to be you know you had these uh you know you needed a you know

00:35:34.080 driver's license or passport something you don't need that anymore they're getting waivers to kind of

00:35:38.560 basically work permits from the federal government so the jobs are going to illegal immigrants

00:35:43.260 they're going to part-time not to full-time jobs and real wages are flat to down so that's the you

00:35:49.140 know plus we have we've had inflation uh obviously worse than 2022 and 2023 but the thing about

00:35:54.480 inflation you know the white house would have you believe prices are going down prices are not going

00:35:58.880 down inflation has come down somewhat but but prices are still going up they're just going up at a

00:36:04.360 slower pace and by the way all the inflation we had in 2022 it's not like that reversed i mean those

00:36:10.420 those price increases are embedded you're at the gas pump in the grocery store every day they're

00:36:15.100 still going up they're going up a little more bit more slowly but they're not going down which

00:36:19.160 is what the white house would spend so the the experience of everyday america and by the way

00:36:23.060 hiring has hit a wall hiring has hit a wall the unemployment rate has went up a little bit has not

00:36:28.460 gone up a lot the the firing the layoff wave has not started although i expect it soon but what has

00:36:34.960 started this new hiring has totally hit a wall so we're very likely in the recession but the white 1.00

00:36:39.980 house is looking at at their own set of numbers spinning it their own way they just they're very

00:36:44.660 detached from reality

00:36:45.720 some of the back chatter jim in the imperial capital um from these people are they're they're certainly

00:36:55.360 going well you guys are overreacting because you're thinking in an old paradigm that you're not

00:37:01.300 uh factoring in literally changes that happen you know once a millennium in technology that

00:37:10.420 artificial intelligence uh in artificial general intelligence and robotics all these other things

00:37:16.080 but particularly artificial intelligence is going to basically reshape the modern economy and that's

00:37:22.240 what we haven't taken into account your thoughts uh i just finished writing a book on artificial

00:37:27.460 intelligence steve it won't be out until november so it's a little too soon to uh uh be talking about

00:37:32.320 we're still some months away but i i spent a year doing the research i would say a couple things

00:37:36.940 number one artificial intelligence is powerful it's real i i understand the you know the multi-layer

00:37:42.460 neural networks i've designed them myself so i really get it but there's so much less there than meets

00:37:48.020 the eye the first thing you have to know about artificial intelligence it's not intelligent

00:37:51.600 it's math it's processing power it can do stuff it's not intelligent we tend to

00:37:56.840 anthropomorphize it we treat it like you know we treat alexa and siri like our best friends

00:38:01.360 sorry they're not they're just a bunch of equations the gpt is a joke and it's kind of a

00:38:06.720 a bad joke because too many people follow it we saw you know you saw what happened a couple weeks ago

00:38:11.060 they they said the prompt was give me a picture of a pope and it came back with black women um sorry 0.99

00:38:17.760 two thousand years we've had two thousand years of white male popes whether you like that or not too bad 0.87

00:38:23.320 that's the history so it's coming back with black women uh shamans you know etc they asked for a 0.82

00:38:29.960 picture of vikings came back with black vikings well they uncovered it they found out that it had

00:38:34.280 been programmed to eliminate white people this is again this is all publicly available it's not some 0.75

00:38:39.700 kind of conspiracy theory it's all been very well publicized in in the new york post and and other 0.92

00:38:44.620 publications so that's what's going on with gpt i wouldn't trust as far as i can throw it

00:38:49.100 who are the gatekeepers of gpt it's open ai google facebook and a few others the same people who lie

00:38:57.360 to us about covid masks vaccines social distancing the war in ukraine the same people who lie to lie to

00:39:05.020 us about all those things we're not supposed to trust them on the output of gpt uh i don't think so

00:39:10.200 so this is uh i i think i think the hardware manufacturers and video yeah great company um i don't

00:39:17.120 know what the stock valuation should be but that's real but so much of the rest of this is um is hot

00:39:23.020 air yeah every every company in the world is trying to apply ai but the output is so defective i don't

00:39:27.620 see how it's going to help productivity so your your your point is hey with all the happy talk is going

00:39:34.740 on there will be some uh amazing things that comes out with that you've got to get back to the basic math

00:39:40.760 of sustainability and and uh this national debt in the in the you know this time it's totally different

00:39:46.440 because what they're saying this time is totally different is that technology is going to bail us

00:39:50.700 out and you're not buying that correct no either either there's less there than meets the eye which

00:39:55.520 is my view or if you want to give it credit say hey this is the most revolutionary thing since the

00:39:59.320 steam engine okay you're going to put everybody out of work so you get two bad outcomes in terms of

00:40:04.300 again everyday americans relying on uh on public policy and their own initiatives who have jobs

00:40:10.580 and create wealth so you're going to have massive unemployment but then you go right to zuckerberg

00:40:15.320 what does he want guaranteed basic income gbi they basically say well who cares if nobody's working

00:40:21.100 we'll just send you a check anyway and you know sit there with your doritos and your basketball games or

00:40:26.560 or whatever uh so that's that's the end game for the for the oligarchs

00:40:30.760 uh jim one more time where if they want to take a look at strategic intelligence and start getting

00:40:37.620 a regular basis where they go thanks steve it's a records war room.com records war room.com you can

00:40:44.860 subscribe to strategic intelligence and get it for the uh war room posse a free copy of uh my book currency wars

00:40:51.640 uh jim thank you so much for coming on here do you have social media uh besides the uh going to uh

00:40:59.680 uh records war room.com is there any social media people can follow you yeah i'm very active on uh

00:41:05.180 on twitter i guess x it's called as at james g records r-i-c-k-a-r-d-s at james g records

00:41:12.520 thank you brother great thank you for coming on today give us as much time as you give us appreciate it

00:41:18.680 thanks

00:41:21.640 it's 238 and a wake up we started the show about that today they're they're going to try everything

00:41:28.420 on lawfare they possibly can everything to bankrupt president trump that they possibly can do everything

00:41:34.040 to thwart him from uses of technology to the media to uh you know the tech oligarchs the lords of easy

00:41:41.380 money uh all of it and this is going to be a fight and now you know the centrality of the house of

00:41:47.580 representatives rasmussen did the poll raheem was up here earlier 50 was a 57 percent of democrats

00:41:55.220 believe that the house should not certify the election if trump wins they don't say if trump

00:42:00.840 stole it they don't say if trump there's election interference by trump if trump wins should the a

00:42:07.360 democratic house certify uh the election their answer is no so i mean what do you do with that you

00:42:14.520 talk about illiberal authoritarianism if the american people speak and they want trump back

00:42:19.840 right of course some of us uh are under the belief he never left for the simple reason as the 2020

00:42:25.720 election was stolen we're gonna have hoft on here uh this afternoon in the five to seven show to go

00:42:31.220 through some details about georgia what's brewing up there and i'm not just talking about the fanny

00:42:36.380 willis uh totally about the funny willis situation but raffensperger and guys associated with actually

00:42:42.160 counting counting the vote so this thing is only going to get uh only going to get gnarlier and

00:42:48.280 gnarlier mike lindell hopefully i can get him back up here this afternoon he's going to talk about the

00:42:52.600 supreme court filing he's got it's coming up on thursday it's going to be a blockbuster they've been

00:42:57.460 working on this for a while so 238 and a wake up he just got to hunker down now because this is going

00:43:02.720 to be a fight like this country's never seen the forces arrayed against us are not going to give up

00:43:08.120 but let me reiterate you took out a sitting speaker of the house you took that first time in the

00:43:14.860 history of this republic you've now got a recall on the speaker of the house of robin voss up in

00:43:19.980 wisconsin and you've got the uh speaker of the house in texas on the ropes had to go to a runoff 0.99

00:43:25.740 first time in 52 years maybe even try to remove a speaker of the house down in texas and the speaker

00:43:30.920 in a house in texas is plenty powerful okay short commercial break come back we're going to run

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00:46:53.100 then at four o'clock here on real america's voice got miranda khan tara doll we're back at five five to

00:46:58.560 seven one thing i want to say about the situation we're in is that never and this is one of the

00:47:03.100 reasons president trump ran for president back in 14 and 15 and one in 16 was the managed decline of

00:47:09.880 this country by the elites they managed to climb by our elites that was pretty obvious and hillary

00:47:15.160 clinton was the kind of the poster child for that but we're in something far different now this is the

00:47:20.180 absolute implosion of our country culturally attacks on the family education this madness about gender

00:47:26.620 ideology all about the finances i mean anybody sits there can just do basic math what are people

00:47:32.880 thinking about how it's going to go in the invasion of our country so here's the thing

00:47:36.600 if you go back and look at this country and study its history our elites and of course the hard-working

00:47:43.960 people in the country always are thinking downrange they were always thinking about generations

00:47:49.020 that come and what they could do to make this entire situation better make the country better

00:47:53.800 that's why the country's providential been unique in world history it was always thinking of the

00:47:58.940 future but how do you what do i do in the present today and what are our sacrifice look at your own

00:48:03.180 family's history just go back look at your parents your grandparents your great-grandparents as far

00:48:07.480 back as you can track it the sacrifice people made in their own personal lives to do the right thing

00:48:14.340 to support this country to serve her right in the military or other ways but also just in their

00:48:20.460 everyday life to think about how they built up civic society what edmund burke calls the little

00:48:25.820 platoons it was always there and today it's there with maga but our elites have abandoned this it's

00:48:32.760 obvious there's something deeply deeply and darkly wrong about all this and there's certain things i

00:48:40.900 can't even figure out yet like this obsession about ukraine we're going to find out i've committed

00:48:45.440 myself to find out why this why ukraine has been such an obsession by these elites uh certain things

00:48:52.500 they do but you get a guy like rickards on here and people in finance and i talk to hedge fund guys

00:48:57.960 all the time i mean just the math doesn't work here in the detachment and biden they're selling a

00:49:04.720 program that's not sellable to to to working class americans and this is why you're seeing

00:49:10.180 defections in african-american hispanic males all of it you're seeing defections today

00:49:16.340 but even culturally if you see president trump you know he went from rome georgia which is a

00:49:21.700 maga turnout deplorables it was amazing that rome georgia rally was incredible president trump was

00:49:28.520 was hitting it was on it but then he went down to miami to the what the ufc or the mma fight with

00:49:34.160 dana white you go in there and look at just look at the raw tape i'll try to get some of that and play

00:49:39.020 it at five tonight it was incredible an explosion of people that just love him and support him and

00:49:46.080 these are hispanic african-american young men young men of every all races ethnicities religions

00:49:52.080 it was incredible that this guy is revered by that population you haven't seen the joe biden

00:49:57.940 you saw the thing he did the day after the day after the state of the union there were 50 people there

00:50:02.800 in in atlanta georgia so it's 238 and a wake up uh and this is not going to happen unless you make

00:50:11.340 it happen everything that's happened to date the recall of robin voss the fight uh to put the uh

00:50:17.320 speaker of the house in texas on the ropes and to shut down the bush and rove junta uh what

00:50:23.080 happened with mccarthy every victory is on your shoulders president trump is fighting a fight that's

00:50:28.320 never been done before in american history and the forces arrayed against him are vast and vicious

00:50:35.140 they're trying to put him in prison for 700 years stripping him of his business empire

00:50:39.920 taxing him and fining him into oblivion with 500 million dollar fine right now he's got to come

00:50:45.600 over the money for think about that with 150 000 every day but we're doing our jobs you've you've

00:50:52.500 gotten rid of the leadership of the rnc they've just put in new leadership i love what laura trump's 0.50

00:50:56.520 talking about i hope we get more of that and they actually come forward with a plan here's what we

00:51:00.000 want to do here's what we're going to accomplish i think people at that time will turn the tap back

00:51:03.420 on at least the the little guy in the house is it perfect no it's far from perfect you have good

00:51:09.260 men there mike johnson is a good man but we need a good man with courage and as a fighter we need

00:51:13.680 fighters around him and hopefully we can get this before march 22nd we can have another fight here

00:51:18.860 and try to extract more value with using all the leverage we can that's what people have to

00:51:23.340 understand you're gonna have to use every bit of leverage this is what president trump this is how

00:51:27.600 he's fought his way back to become the presumptive nominee remember fox news was against him the

00:51:32.880 republican establishment was against him all the donors were against him the official party up on

00:51:37.380 capitol hill were against him in the senate in the house except for a handful of people the mad

00:51:41.240 gates of the world and a couple other folks like that at the beginning back in january 2020

00:51:45.840 mitch mcconnell essentially signed president trump's political death warrant

00:51:50.220 didn't turn out too well for mitch ain't gonna turn out too well for joe biden either

00:51:55.640 but it's a collective team sport and we all have to put our shoulder to the wheel

00:52:00.440 okay charlie kirk's up next you got post so far on that miranda and tara then we're back at five

00:52:06.560 to seven we're going to be fully loaded six o'clock show already i can tell you is loaded was going to

00:52:11.220 be the rock star so it's so much going on we're going to plow through all of it i want to make sure

00:52:16.580 everybody goes to birchgold.com slash bannon check out the end of the dollar empire get up to speed

00:52:21.680 on all that four installments all free coming out with the fifth installment on the central bank

00:52:27.300 digital currency working on that one right now if i get it grammatically correct in the right charts

00:52:33.000 and they're working with philip patrick and the team but talk to philip patrick make sure you talk

00:52:36.180 to philip patrick and the team about that also the situation with the chinese communist party their

00:52:41.520 economy looks like it's a folding under the pressure of uh commercial real estate and banks

00:52:47.520 that have lent to these guys but hey don't ever count the ccp out don't count them out they're tough 1.00

00:52:53.500 they're vicious they're ruthless don't ask me ask laobai jing okay they've got a vast network of tech

00:53:01.120 companies and industrial companies if you read that piece in um in with darren beady over at revolver

00:53:08.260 it'll uh it'll give you a wake-up call make sure you also go check out citizens free press and

00:53:13.920 while we're talking about it on supply chains jace medical they've got a solution for you do not allow

00:53:19.700 yourself to get caught up in what is to come particularly the ccp puts the war balloon up over 1.00

00:53:25.560 taiwan because they will cut us off of all generic drugs make sure you go to jace medical.com check it

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Bannon's War Room - March 11, 2024

Episode 3453： Victories For MAGA; Saving The Economic Future Of The US

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