Episode 3454: The Pandemic: 4 Years Later; The Facts Behind Biden's Budget
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Trump and the Republican National Committee are merging into the Trump campaign. What does this mean for the future of the Trump 2020 campaign? And what does it say about Trump's obsession with strongmen? Stephen K.K. Mann and John Avlon break it all down.
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Trump expects of the RNC in the coming months? Well, I was at the RNC's spring meeting in Houston
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on Friday afternoon when Laura Trump was officially named co-chair. His daughter-in-law.
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Already they are viewing her as instrumental to their fundraising abilities, right? That Trump
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name, they're going to ride or die off of that Trump name here in the year of 2024. That calculation
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has been made. They've also put that onus on the Senate candidates in these key states as well.
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And so when you are looking at the operation, today is literally day one of the RNC merging
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with the Trump campaign. Chris Lasavita, who is one of the two campaign co-managers for Donald Trump,
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is coming in to the chief operating officer role. And I have confirmed that they just brought on a
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number two to him as well, who previously served in a COO capacity to help with the financing
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of the RNC, because there is a lot of entanglement here for that operation right now at a time with
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we're talking seven and a half months left. Former advisors are sounding the alarm that Trump
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praises despots in private and on the campaign trail. Trump's former advisors say he most
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consistently lavish praise on Russian President Vladimir Putin. John Bolton recalled a comment
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from Trump during the 2018 NATO summit. Following sometimes tense encounters with NATO leaders,
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Trump said his meeting with Putin, the leader of America's great power adversary, quote,
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may be the easiest of them all. Who would think? He says to the press as he goes out to the helicopter,
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I think the easiest meeting might be with Vladimir Putin. Who would ever think that,
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recall, Bolton? There's an answer to that question. Only one person, you. You were the
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only person who would think that. The shrinks can make of that what they will. But I think it was,
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I'm a big guy. They're big guys. I wish I could act like they do. We have all the pieces now,
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Charlie Sykes. And I guess at some point this stops being a Trump story and it starts being a Biden
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an F story. Well, this will never not be surreal. I think this is the main point. And it is not,
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it's not just that, that Donald Trump has an obvious fetish for strongmen. It's that last line
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that he wishes he could be more like them. And so I think you have to ask when he looks at them
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with such admiration, what does that tell you about what he wants to do when he becomes the big tough
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guy again? I mean, Victor Orban's record, as you point out, is, is not non-controversial. He's
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attacked the independent judicial system. He's attacked the courts. He's attacked the media.
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He has criminalized political behavior. He has, he's authorized, you know, the cruel treatment of
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refugees. He traffics in racist, white nationalist rhetoric. He has flirted with anti-Semitism way
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more than that. And yet Donald Trump looks at him and he says, he's the boss. He's the guy
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that I admire so much. So I think this is, this is this moment, and this is kind of a challenge
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because this is not Trump derangement syndrome. This is out of the mouth of Donald Trump on a
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regular and consistent basis. These are the reports that we're getting from the people
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who work the most closely with him, that Donald Trump, far from being the American patriot, far from
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being, you know, the conservative protector of American values, looks at the world's thugs and thinks,
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I wish I could be more like them. I admire them so much. There's really no precedent in American
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly
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full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world
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to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go
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to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a
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conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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Monday, 11 March, Year of the Lord, 2024. Just had to have some of the afternoon meltdowns
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on MSNBC. Charlie Sykes there, the Bulwark, wrote a big piece about us yesterday. I put up on Getter
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so everybody can share it about how this show that we're mainlining, I don't know,
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mainlining the, I don't know, the lies and misinformation that the MAGA base has to live
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off of, something like that. But you see today that they're sitting there. And of course,
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all these, all these, oh, Trump's an authoritarian. Trump wants to do this. Last time I looked,
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President Trump was against any surveillance. President Trump has been adamant against the FBI,
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against DOJ, used for political reasons, through his actions. Look what's happening here.
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Perfect example, bring in Eli Crane. Congressman Eli Crane, also a former Navy SEAL with the SEAL
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teams and a combat veteran. Congressman, we had a very good discussion today, this morning,
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with Gunny Borelli, Arizona State Senator, now former Gunny Sergeant in the United States Marine
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Corps and yourself, two vets. And we talked about a young man that's in Fort Jackson, I think,
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in a training command. And because of all this stuff they said he did, we said it looks like
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a systematic problem in the command. As soon as we're off the show, they discharge him from the
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Yeah, Steve, thanks for having me back on to give you guys an update. As soon as I got off
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your show, it wasn't more than maybe 45 minutes later, I got a call from Private Marinon to let
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me know that he was informed of the fact that he would be getting separated from the Army. So
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apparently you have some folks in the Army that are monitoring the war room.
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So that's about as in your face as you can get, right? I mean, this gets back to the command.
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Somebody's there trying to send a signal to the war room posse that you're not all that. I'm
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Well, you're right, Steve. And it's actually a lot bigger than that. Because like I discussed on your
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program, this is so much bigger than Private Marinon. You know, I've had so many conversations up here with,
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you know, generals and admirals, whether it was in an oversight capacity, you know, whether it was in a
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funding capacity, appropriations, or, you know, even in classified settings. And many, many times
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myself and other, you know, conservative members up here in the Republican Party will broach the
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subject with them about how concerned we are, you know, about what's happening to our military,
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the wokeness within our military, the drag shows, the diversity, equity, inclusion focus, how we've gotten
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away from preparedness, and lethality, which is what the military is supposed to be about. And Steve, I can tell
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you right now, every single one of those flag officers and high ranking officers has looked myself and
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several other members of Congress in the face, and just told us, I don't know what you're talking about. And some of
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them will even say, you know, I think diversity, you know, is is our strength. And it's almost like
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almost all of them that I've run into at that level, Steve, are 100% drinking the Kool-Aid. And this
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just goes to show that anybody that doesn't drink that Kool-Aid, like Private Marinon, refused to do.
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Private, people should remember Private Marinon, this started because they had on his phone a picture of
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President Trump. And somebody said, that's racist. And it started from there. This is not drinking the Kool-Aid.
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This is this is a cult, isn't it? I mean, it's a cult. Diversity is our strength that the everything you go all
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the way down. And this is why recruiting is a tanking. This is why it's costing more to get folks in. This is why
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combat readiness is dropped. Am I wrong on any of that, that this is this is one of this, this wokeness is one of the
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central problems. Also, while the general officers, nobody can fight and win wars anymore.
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Well, I think that's that's the real key. You know, Steve, outside of it, you know, degrading
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the ability of our armed forces and, you know, making it to where nobody wants to join anymore
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that has a patriotic bone in their body. You know what you and I discussed earlier is what this is
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going to lead to. And this will lead to us getting our tails whipped by adversarial countries and
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militaries that do not care about this crap, that are focused on lethality and, you know, just be
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becoming the baddest fighting machines that they can become. And that's why this stuff is so
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disastrous. I think that's why the military was one of the last institutions in the country that
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started to see this type of social experimentation. But that's one reason that we wanted to come and
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highlight the private story. We wanted the American people to hear that there are this does trickle
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downstream to the privates and everybody below. And here's the thing, Steve, I might not have
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mentioned it on your show, but if you've ever hung out with privates in the army, if you've ever hung
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out with, you know, your E1s, E2s in the Marine Corps or, you know, in the Navy, almost the vast
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majority of the conversations they have when officers and their NCOs are around are inappropriate.
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You know, a lot of Americans would think that, you know, be appalled by some of the, you know,
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banter that goes back and forth. But this is the type of stuff that Maranon's being, you know,
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kicked out of the army for. This is the type of stuff that happens all day, every day on these
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installations. And these are the types of things that used to be handled with, hey, get your rucksack
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on. You're going to, you know, you're going to run a couple miles or you're going to go clean the
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latrines or the bathrooms. And now you're starting to see, you know, what it's becoming.
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And unfortunately, it looks like, you know, only certain types of people are being held accountable
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for, you know, some of this banter, some of these comments that are inappropriate. And like I said,
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it appears that private Maranon, you know, has fallen victim to having a worldview that doesn't
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align with our woke Department of Defense. So the systematic rot of the military is our issue.
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So what is your recommendation? Where do we go from here? Because obviously, this is just the
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beginning of this journey. I mean, private Maranon was an example, and I think a good example of how
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this rot has become part of the way the institution, this is one of the reasons the military, as you said,
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is dropping. It used to be in steam. Nothing was higher than the military. That's why I was honored to be a
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naval officer. Moza, as people know, West Point, grad army officer, you're a SEAL. Gunny Borrelli's a
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Marine. People are not just proud of their service, but they'll tell you the best years of their lives
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were when they were in the service. So how do we, what's your recommendation? People look to you for
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leadership. What's your recommendation or what do we do? Well, you know, Steve, as you know, it's never
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over until we quit. And, you know, I never go into a fight alone. You know, we're discussing with
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the team right now, you know, ways ahead, things that we can do. But this is going to be, this is,
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this isn't going to be one battle. It's, it's, it's, like I said, it's so much bigger than the
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private. We're going to have to continue to fight, you know, for the privates out there and those that
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can't fight for themselves, those individuals in the military that don't have budgets that,
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you know, can hire high powered attorneys. We're going to have to continue to fight for them because
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that's what, that's what a lot of these folks with power trips bank on is that nobody will stand up
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for them. And that's not the case. You know, we're going to stand up for the private. That's
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why I wanted to come back on your show. That's why I'm going to do more media so that the American
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public can hear about not only this case, but so they can hear about the rot within our,
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Where do folks find you, Congressman Eli Crane? Where do people go? Social media, website, all of it.
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They can find me at Rep Eli Crane. Thanks again, Steve, for helping us cover this, man. You know,
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we really appreciate it. And I know the private does as well.
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Well, Congressman, you're held in very high esteem by this audience. So we're here to help
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and we look forward. We know this is going to be an interesting fight. We got to set things right
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here. I mean, this is, this is one of the greatest institutions in the, in, in our country,
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in our country's history. And it has gone, it has gone seriously off track and it's time to set
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things right. Can I say one last thing, Steve? Yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah. There's obviously a lot
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of parents and grandparents that, you know, in the posse that listened to this show. We all love this
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country. Many of us fought for this country. Just, I want you to really think about the advice that you
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give, um, to the young generations coming up in your family about, um, serving in this type of
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military, in this type of environment. I'm not telling you to advise your kids or your grandkids
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not to serve this country, but I'm, I'm telling you, this is the type of treatment that you can
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expect. If you're not willing to shut up, play the game, um, you know, go along with all this woke
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D diversity, equity, inclusion crap. There's a good chance that you're going to be treated just like
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the private. So make sure you think long and hard about that. Um, and like you pointed out, Steve,
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that's one of the biggest reasons that our military is having so much, uh, trouble, uh, with their
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recruitment numbers. I agree. Uh, Congressman Crane, we're on it with you in harness. So we'll figure
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this thing out. Thank you, brother. What Eli's talking about, you know, we have so many veterans and,
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and, and, uh, parents of, I tell you, nephew, one's a army was, was in the army. I think he
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made it to sergeant. Another nephew, E1, uh, in the, uh, first class petty officer. My kid brother's
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a Navy pilot. His wife's a Navy nurse. Of course, Mo was army captain, uh, just the whole family and
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not very many lifers, but a lot of people that did their six to eight years. And I've always told
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young people, when I give speeches, the best years you could have is in the twenties of going to do
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this. I'd be very hesitant about making that recommendation. Now there's something deeply,
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deeply, deeply wrong with our military right now. And, uh, let's go on a journey together to set
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this thing, right? Cause it's too great an institution, too much interwoven into the fabric
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of American society and culture to let it go like this. It's absolutely terrible, terrible.
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There are now more than 118,000 cases in 114 countries. And 4,291 people have lost their lives.
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The WHO has been assessing this outbreak around the clock and we're deeply concerned both by the
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alarming levels of spread and severity and by the alarming levels of inaction. We have therefore made
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the assessment that COVID-19 can be characterized as a pandemic. Pandemic is not a word to use lightly
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or carelessly. It's a word that if misuse can cause unreasonable fear or unjustified acceptance that the fight
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is over is over, leading to unnecessary suffering and death. Describing the situation as a pandemic does not change
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WHO's assessment of the threat posed by the virus. It doesn't change what WHO is doing. And it doesn't change
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what countries should do. We have never been before seen a pandemic sparked by a coronavirus. This is the first
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pandemic caused by a coronavirus. And we have never before seen a pandemic that can be controlled at the same
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time. WHO has been in full response mode since we were notified of the first cases.
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And we have called every day for countries to take urgent and aggressive action. We have rung the alarm bell
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Okay, four years ago, this very day, WHO called a pandemic, media picked up on it. Naomi Wolf,
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walk me through your experience in this and then your observations about what then happened.
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Yeah, it's amazing. Your producers are awesome because they found the perfect clip, the definitive
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clip. That's the DNA of the whole four years right there. And what I see is a guy launching a product.
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And there's a whole marketing campaign all set behind him with soundbites and policies and outcomes
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already predetermined, data statistics already predetermined, metrics predetermined. And he's,
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you know, that's the opening act, like the curtain is opening. And one thing I will notice, you know,
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listening to this again, the second time, four years later, not the first time, is that people
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who have really been in crises and conflict areas and zones where there's a real disaster, catastrophe,
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no one uses language like that. You know, when there's a real emergency, people don't talk about
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alarm and, you know, sounding the bell of alarm and how much fear you should have, just enough fear,
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not too much fear, but plenty of fear. People in a real crisis, you know, real leaders in a real
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crisis, try to calm people down and try to simply tell them what they need to do to protect their
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families. The other thing you really notice is that before this press conference, we were not aware
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of the WHO as the people above our sovereign nations who were dictating policy to our sovereign
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nations. We thought we lived in a sovereign nation. So the other thing that really surfaces from this
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clip is how Ghebreyesus is launching, reminding, insisting. And remember, the person who funds Ghebreyesus,
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Bill Gates, also invested in the vaccine, benefits from the vaccine, right? It's a two-tier profit machine.
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But Ghebreyesus is kind of rolling out this relationship to sovereign nations. We're telling
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countries what to do. Well, that, you know, that was new or that was being remarketed. Maybe the WHO
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in the past tried to tell countries what to do. But the idea that the WHO, you know, like the CDC on a
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lesser level is like the arbiter of whether we have a pandemic or not and what we do then and what the
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laws are, that was a whole new kind of venture in history. And the fact that they made it fly is kind
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of testimony to their demonic cleverness and, you know, a blot on everyone who went along with it,
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you know, a blot on the credulity of all the people. But I don't mean citizens because I listened to this
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too. I mean, I knew enough to know what was wrong with it. But our leaders didn't say,
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who are you? What do you mean? What do you mean alarmed? What's the definition of a pandemic? Like
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none of the right questions were asked at that point. It was just like, bam, bam, bam, from Ghebreyesus
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to Fauci to, at that point, Walensky, you know, lying to that president and then the next president
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and crushing everyone in their homes after that and rolling out draconian measures that we should
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remember for the rest of our lives. I guess the other thing when you said like, where was I? I
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think you said something like that. I remember vividly, I was in New York. We were in New York,
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and I think on March 8th, Broadway had closed. And I remember thinking, you know, Governor Cuomo
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just announced that all of Broadway was closing, not individual theater owners deciding for
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themselves if it was too risky or if their insurance policies didn't cover whatever was
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happening. All of Broadway, the lights on Broadway went out all at once. And I'm enough of a veteran
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of national symbolism to know that when you turn off all the lights on Broadway, that is a dramatic,
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symbolic gesture that, you know, it's highly coordinated. And it's a message. It's a message
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point because Broadway is so emblematic of New York and New York is so emblematic of, you know,
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the bright lights of America. And so I remember thinking, you know, closing a whole sector is
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something that happens in a totalitarian society, not in a free, open market, you know, free market
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capitalist society. You can't close everyone's business all at once in America. Something's
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terribly wrong. Let's get out of the city. And we moved that night, you know, to the middle of the
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woods because we knew something bad was coming.
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Today, we're fighting and we're going to fight even more intensely in the next couple of weeks,
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the WHO treaty. What did Build Back Better and the Great Reset? I mean, our learning curve.
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What do you think we've learned about our sovereignty and about some of these public
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health officials and what we need to do to stand up as free men and free women?
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That is a great question. I mean, these last four years have really been like the refiner's fire,
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right? I mean, they've burned away everything that kept us from understanding what our constitution
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is and what our sovereignty is and what our, you know, when you say, ask yourself, what is your
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mission and what is your purpose? You know, what our mission and purpose is. When in, on March 11th,
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2020, I don't think any of us thought that an unelected guy could threaten the sovereignty of the
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greatest nation on earth. You know, a handful of unelected guys, but certainly not a, you know,
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random nonprofit. The World Health Organization is literally a random nonprofit, you know, started,
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funded largely, as I mentioned, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, also funded by China,
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by the way. None of us thought America could be destabilized so easily. We thought our institutions
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were too solid to have our freedom of assembly, which is guaranteed in the First Amendment to our
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constitution, suspended by fiat, by the diktats of governors in state after state after state,
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bypassing the constitution by using, by the proxy of public health authorities. I mean, that was a new
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one. And again, got to credit these satanic geniuses. It was so clever because public health
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is one of those labels that kind of brings with, or used to bring with it, kind of a built-in benefit
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of the doubt, you know. But our First Amendment was crushed, our freedom of assembly, our freedom to
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worship was crushed by these public health authorities. I don't think any of us saw how easily
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the rights of a great nation, the constitution of a great nation could be brought to its knees
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by this workaround. I think we, you know, sovereignty. I think that the digital ID, the
00:26:42.160
combination of the rollout of digital ID and our all understanding or learning what a social credit
00:26:47.260
score was and how China uses it, which happened all at once, remember, in 2021, when they tried to
00:26:53.740
inflict a vaccine passport on us. And we fought hard against that with the bill that we passed in
00:26:59.460
33 states. But the combination of people learning about the social credit score, which could dissolve
00:27:05.480
the constitution in effect digitally, and learning about the World Health Organization treaty, which
00:27:12.000
would suspend, you know, kind of dissolve our nation, add to that the southern border in which our
00:27:19.420
nation kind of has been dissolved at the southern border through having no border in effect and
00:27:24.560
having, and like dissolving the notion of the citizen, because anyone can walk into the United
00:27:30.020
States of America now or be flown in. All of those were kind of multifaceted attacks on our sovereignty.
00:27:37.520
And again, refiner's fire made us realize what our sovereignty is. Oh, a sovereign nation has citizens
00:27:44.100
and the citizens have representatives. A sovereign nation has boundaries and they can be defended.
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I tell you, Naomi, just hang on for one second. We're taking a short break. We'll be back with
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Naomi, the one thing we did learn how to do is how to fight as a team with the Warren Posse and what
00:29:59.200
you guys did at Daily Clout. We did drive down on Pfizer. We drove down on Moderna. We've got all
00:30:04.480
these reports, all these studies. It's the basis for lots of suits are going on, laws that are trying
00:30:10.000
to be passed, everything. So that one of the good elements, we understood how precious our sovereignty
00:30:18.500
is, both our sovereignty as a nation, our sovereignty as a people overall, American citizens, and our
00:30:25.600
sovereignty as individuals in their own individual health. Did we not? I think we've become a multi-purpose
00:30:32.940
army, a multi-mission army. And we've learned many ways of fighting, not only the revelations,
00:30:41.200
the Pfizer documents, not only did the Posse bring to its knees this evil global corporation to pre-2016
00:30:49.080
revenue levels and to, you know, almost no one taking the booster, and many lawsuits indeed. But
00:30:56.200
the Posse has launched now, helped to support this election integrity bill that we drafted with
00:31:02.920
American Voters Alliance. And we've got two new states helping to pass it. Well, a version was
00:31:09.660
passed, a law against ballot harvesting was passed in Alabama. I just found out SB1 passed last week
00:31:16.760
that bans ballot harvesting and limits absentee ballots. And I just heard from North Dakota where
00:31:23.220
they're petitioning to get our election integrity bill in front of the governor and on the ballot there.
00:31:29.260
So, and I'm heading to Michigan. So that's five states now, one defeat and various versions of
00:31:41.740
That's fantastic. Great. I'm gonna put you on the spot. You're married to a soldier. You heard the
00:31:46.460
conversation we had with Eli, which he would have a tough time recommended to his nieces and nephews,
00:31:51.320
his children. I said my family, I think we'd have a tough time now too, given what's happening.
00:31:56.100
Your thoughts about what your husband would tell his kin about serving in the military today.
00:32:05.180
Interesting. Well, he hasn't recommended to anyone that they enlist in this generation of the youngest
00:32:12.280
people who could enlist. So I'm sure, I know that the army that the last, and no doubt the navy that the
00:32:20.880
last guest described, doesn't bear any relationship to what Brian O'Shea, my husband, describes in his
00:32:30.100
years of service. And I'm also sad that there's this kind of focus on race as a kind of label,
00:32:41.260
because one of the most beautiful things Brian talks about is how people were told,
00:32:46.220
you know, you're all green, like basically race doesn't exist, gender doesn't exist. You really,
00:32:52.140
you know, you're soldiers now. And, you know, your job is to execute your mission and to be there for
00:32:58.320
your fellow brother or sister in arms. And that's kind of, that transcends race and gender. And I
00:33:04.540
thought that was a really beautiful thing. And like the best way of America to manifest its highest
00:33:10.600
values. And it sounds like the opposite of that now. Naomi, how do people get you, how to get your
00:33:17.020
books, your writing, everything that's happening over at Daily Cloud? You guys are fighting every day.
00:33:21.700
We are. Thanks to all of you and our friends across the country. Please go to dailycloud.io.
00:33:27.720
You can download the election integrity bill and send it to your representative. Please go. My,
00:33:35.200
my sub stack is called outspoken and you can also sign up for the best of daily cloud. And very soon
00:33:40.680
in May, Skyhorse Books is publishing the second volume of the Pfizer documents called the Pfizer
00:33:48.320
papers. You can order that on Amazon. Thank you. And help us. Thank you, Nate. Everybody go over
00:33:56.740
there. Pile into a day. Thanks, Naomi. Thanks, Brian, too. Brian O'Shea. Let's play the cold open.
00:34:02.760
We've got Richard Stern. Biden, as a teaser, Biden dropped a $7.3 trillion 2025 budget today.
00:34:12.160
We've got another fight on our hands. We're going to talk about Richard Stern over at Heritage. Let's
00:34:15.640
go and play the cold open. I'm going to get to Megan Casella at the White House. We're learning
00:34:19.660
more about the president's budget for this year. Megan. Hey, Scott, that's right. So the Biden
00:34:24.660
administration is proposing a 2025 budget today that would spend about $7.3 trillion. That's a
00:34:30.260
five and a half percent increase from last year's proposed spending levels in order to have more
00:34:34.100
money to devote to Social Security, to reduce the cost of child care and offer more loans to small
00:34:38.840
businesses. On the revenue side, the White House expects to raise roughly five and a half trillion
00:34:43.040
dollars. That'd be a nine percent increase from last year's forecast due in part to proposals that
00:34:47.740
would hike taxes on corporations and the wealthy. Despite that rise in spending, the White House sees the
00:34:52.760
deficit falling to about $1.8 trillion next year. But as the deficit falls, the cost to service the debt
00:34:59.140
is on the rise. That reflects in part an expectation by the White House that the long-term neutral rate
00:35:04.280
has likely risen. The White House says interest costs will hit $965 billion in 2025, a 21 percent jump
00:35:11.780
from last year. Those costs will rise from there throughout the decade. Overall, Biden is proposing
00:35:17.000
a trillion dollars for discretionary non-defense spending and a stepped up $900 billion in defense
00:35:25.600
A trillion dollars of non-defense spending up in your grill. So forget all the out years. He's saving
00:35:31.960
five trillion dollars. He's raising taxes on the wealthy. That's all a lie. They're not going to
00:35:36.300
their donors are the wealthiest people in this country. They're not going to do that. That's all
00:35:40.100
optics. But in your face, Richard Stern, is $7.3 trillion of spending over $2 trillion of discretionary
00:35:48.820
spending when you take the defense budget also. Now they've got a trillion dollars of non-defense.
00:35:54.140
And they're projecting, Stern, before you and I go through and start sharpening our pencils,
00:35:58.080
they're projecting a $1.8 trillion. Their best shots, a $1.8 trillion coming off what will be over
00:36:05.080
$2 trillion this year. By the time Trump gets settled in the White House, I don't know, it'll be $37,
00:36:10.880
$38 trillion face amount. Richard, you're one of the toughest guys I know on the budget.
00:36:19.560
Well, I think this is exactly the train wreck we would have expected, unfortunately.
00:36:23.980
To your point on that, by the way, they're masking nearly half a trillion dollars in requested new
00:36:30.560
spending just for this year, as if money grew on trees, as if this wasn't going to be stolen
00:36:36.240
from hardworking Americans. Look, this budget is a joke. Unfortunately, the real problem here
00:36:42.260
is what he's doing to the country is not a joke. But to your point, they've got all of this gimmicky
00:36:48.300
crap that they're doing to throw money at their donors, and it's your money. And how are they
00:36:53.180
going to raise it? You're right. They're not going to tax their donors. They're going to tax the
00:36:57.300
American public. They're going to print it at the Fed. They're going to suck the oxygen out of credit
00:37:01.840
markets. They're going to get that money through good old-fashioned inflation the way that Biden has
00:37:06.480
been doing for nearly four years now. But Richard, you know, on the 22nd, we had the second part of
00:37:13.860
this. Johnson came out with very solemn, this shows you Biden's addicted to, you know, gross
00:37:19.740
overspending, fiscal mismanagement. We got that. But the reason they could put this out is we have
00:37:25.960
not disciplined them enough in the current time. That's why I keep telling people, don't worry about
00:37:30.020
out years. It's the year that you're in. You have to use every ounce of leverage. What lessons do you
00:37:36.440
think you would like to impart to the House of Republicans about he's up in your grill right now
00:37:41.820
because he feels he's got kind of an open runway just to roll? As you just point out there, it's
00:37:48.840
about conviction. Whenever two people come together in a negotiation like this, the side with the most
00:37:54.560
conviction always wins. So as much as you and I can look at Biden's budget and say, look, this is just
00:38:00.480
more of a scam. This is just more kind of papering over theft from the American middle class.
00:38:05.820
It shows that he and his team, they've got conviction. They're willing to put out a budget
00:38:10.600
that is hundreds of billions of dollars more theft from the American public. And so what have
00:38:16.280
conservatives put up in Congress? What's the bill you were talking about the roll camp? It's actually
00:38:20.880
got a $29 billion increase in spending. So where is the real conservative brass tax offering of a cut
00:38:28.940
to spending? The Heritage Foundation puts it out. The Republican Study Committee in Congress puts it out.
00:38:33.880
But formal congressional conservative leadership, to your point, doesn't put out an equal kind of
00:38:40.280
trillions of dollars of cut to the bureaucracy, right? Where is the conservative bill that slashes
00:38:46.020
the EPA, that slashes the FBI? So I think the lesson we've learned, and we've learned this lesson
00:38:51.280
time and time again, is be bold. Put out a real vision of conservative governance where we starve the
00:38:58.540
beast. We end the regulatory state. We get rid of these bureaucrats who make their living from
00:39:03.720
oppressing Americans and doing it with your money stolen from them. Until conservatives put out a
00:39:09.220
vision that bold, that unified, that much opposed to the kind of just wanton extra spending that Biden
00:39:18.060
Richard, I know you guys are going to do analysis and break it all down. Where do people go to get
00:39:26.160
to find you on social media, but also go to Heritage and to walk them through your budget analysis and
00:39:35.200
Definitely appreciate it. You can find me at Rich A. Stern on Twitter. You can also find my colleague
00:39:39.960
David Ditch on Twitter as well. He and I both have tweets out today, breaking through some of the parts
00:39:44.360
of this. Preston Beshears as well on my team has done some work on some of the tax parts of this.
00:39:49.400
And if you go to heritage.org, you're going to see our op-eds, other things we put out. And you're
00:39:53.700
right, we're going to go through and break down all the little things that they've gotten here. They've
00:39:56.720
got $300 billion for the IRS to do, quote unquote, enforcement. We all know what that means. It means
00:40:02.780
going after American small businesses, right? They have new taxes here, going after Bitcoin and
00:40:07.300
cryptos, things like that. So we're going to go through and find all the hundreds of little things
00:40:11.760
they've done in here that are just abuses of the presidency.
00:40:17.380
Richard, look forward to seeing it. Have you guys back on if you had a chance to break it all down,
00:40:23.120
Thank you so much. Thank you so much as always.
00:40:25.760
Here's how they, here's how, look, Richard just said it. The budget that we're going to approve right
00:40:32.780
now on the 22nd, if this takes place, is $29 or $30 billion higher than Nancy Pelosi's.
00:40:40.340
Think about that for a second. Gold today is what, at $2,189, another reaching close to an all-time
00:40:48.620
high. Why is that? People are concerned. Capital markets are concerned. This shows you, he's
00:40:56.600
planning on a minimum of a $1.8 trillion deficit. I haven't gotten to the tax side, but I guarantee
00:41:03.140
you they've overstated it. Even with the $300 million for increased IRS enforcement. Even with
00:41:11.540
that. Because remember, last time he whiffed on the, on the, on the tax revenue because of the
00:41:18.060
slowing of the economy and fewer financial transactions taking place, fewer capital gains
00:41:22.620
tax. This is why I keep telling you, go to Birchgold and talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
00:41:28.040
Now's the time you got to do it. Hey, don't take it from me. Look at Biden. They're giving
00:41:31.820
you a roadmap of what's going to happen. And because of the lack of courage, this is not
00:41:36.880
about intelligence. This is not quantum mechanics. And I mean that when I say that this is fairly
00:41:43.400
straightforward, just arithmetic, but it takes political will. It takes political will. And
00:41:49.380
the courage should go in there and say, Hey, I don't call you care. If you call me a xenophobe
00:41:53.440
or racist or nativist, I don't care. It's not relevant. What I care is that we've got
00:41:58.940
to stop this out of control fiscal mismanagement. This is radical. This is going to have, and
00:42:05.540
it's not just future generations, the spending, this spending is creating debt slaves out of
00:42:11.940
everybody. The impact of the impact of refinancing this debt is now not going to go away.
00:42:21.980
What you're seeing is the product. He wouldn't be able to do this and put forward this budget
00:42:27.480
if McCarthy hadn't given the free, the free ride to have two years, no cap on spending and
00:42:33.580
no cap on deficits and to take it off, to take it off the policy right now. And they were
00:42:39.660
hitting up on the deficit, blowing through on, uh, on 24. It'd be, it'd be on the top of
00:42:45.500
the, it'd be the top of the, uh, it'd be top of the ticket. Every question asked to Biden
00:42:49.380
would be about this. This is what McCarthy took away. However, we still have plenty of
00:42:54.740
leverage, plenty of leverage, plenty more than you need to bring this madness to a halt.
00:43:00.800
And I don't want to hear, Oh, you only own control one ninth of one fifth of one thirtieth
00:43:04.920
of the country. That's all. Somebody tells you that it's like saying elections are about
00:43:07.960
the future. That's just, that's just more verbiage. You got plenty of leverage here.
00:43:14.280
You could force these guys to the table and you could have cuts. We don't have them forcing
00:43:18.240
the table to shut the border down on an invasion. Nothing, nothing. And not one mention of cutting
00:43:25.480
spending right there. That budget right there is the mentality and the process that is Republic
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I'm proud of one thing. You know, I, nomenclature is very important. So, you know, a couple of years
00:45:27.500
ago, we started debating, you know, everything populist nationalist or, you know, call it the
00:45:31.780
CCP, not China, right? Because you can drive a wedge between Lao Beijing and the CCP by reminding
00:45:38.000
people, this is not the people of China. It's a group of criminals. The other thing we fought for
00:45:42.720
was they used to put these budgets out the last couple of years, just talking about the discretionary
00:45:46.280
spending. Oh, it's a $1.2 trillion budget, $1.5 trillion. I said, no, it's not. You can add all
00:45:51.320
the, all the entitlement spending in it. It's over $7 trillion. And some of that is not really
00:45:55.460
entitlements. That's the part of it. It's not really entitlements. You can get around that.
00:45:58.960
And I'm not talking about social security and Medicare. I'm talking about other payments,
00:46:02.460
but now they admit it's $7.3 trillion with a one point. And when you say, oh, Steve, these never
00:46:09.200
pass. They're going to get chopped up. Well, hey, the Nancy Pelosi, this budget they're working
00:46:12.780
on. Now it's $30 billion more than Pelosi's out of control last year's spending. So it's $7 trillion
00:46:18.880
now, $7.3 trillion in spending. And that's without any of these supplementals, these side pocket deals
00:46:24.440
like Ukraine, all this. And they're going to have some, you watch, you're going to have some in Gaza
00:46:27.980
for the Palestinians. You just wait, you just watch. But we know, and I'll get in back to the taxes
00:46:33.860
tonight. This is, they're already programming a $2 trillion deficit, folks. They say 1.8, you know,
00:46:40.200
it's higher than that just right now. I'm talking about even in the math they've got embedded. I'll
00:46:43.580
work it tonight. So I told you two back to back years, what McCarthy gave them over $2 trillion
00:46:49.360
each year. This is how you get to a trillion every hundred days. It can't, it's not sustainable.
00:46:55.180
And when this crash comes, people are going to be looking for some folks that got a minute. I tell
00:47:00.200
you, this is going to be as bad as it could ever get because the math is simply not sustainable.
00:47:05.380
And now it's right up in your grill. This is what I keep telling you. You know, I don't give you
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You owe it to yourself. We're here to teach. You guys have been great. You're, you're incredibly
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sophisticated. You have a better understanding of the budgets. I mean, coach Tuberville said this
00:47:51.600
the other day, this audience, uh, Alex Eisenstadt, who's as good as it gets, went back covering the
00:47:58.020
Republicans in the RNC over Politico. Got a tweet out, huge purge already. 60 staffers at the RNC
00:48:04.540
are going to be forced out, I think immediately, including five senior staffers. So that started.
00:48:08.680
We'll have more details as we get them. It looks like this purge that we've kind of demanded that's
00:48:13.100
got to happen to focus all resources on president Trump. Michael and Dell, that's got to be music to
00:48:18.740
your ears. You fought this for a long time. Have you not, sir? Absolutely. I'll tell you,
00:48:23.900
that is music to my ears. The RNC, wake up. We've been doing what they should have been doing for
00:48:28.860
three years, everybody. For three years, we've been trying to secure our election platform and
00:48:34.600
the money that they spend over there frivolously worrying about things that don't matter, quite
00:48:39.180
frankly. Um, that's what, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm so glad they're cleaning house because they, uh,
00:48:44.840
that's what they needed and they need different leadership there. Uh, it's too bad. They can't
00:48:49.100
get rid of about a third of the one 68. And, but we're going to call them out, Steve, as they start
00:48:54.420
popping their heads up, like little pocket gophers, as they show that they're really still part of
00:48:59.240
the unit party. Uh, we're going to call them out. Uh, remember they voted one 68 to zero last summer
00:49:05.380
for paper ballots, hand count at same day voting precinct level. So now when they stick their head
00:49:10.660
up, like we just had one in Illinois, when I was there, he goes, he's sitting there, they're going,
00:49:15.520
yeah, he, he, uh, he's all for a stay in the status quo. And with the election platforms,
00:49:20.540
we're going, well, didn't you vote one 68? Weren't you one of the one 68 to zero? You know,
00:49:25.980
we're not, we're going to call these people out and boy, am I glad they're doing it right now.
00:49:29.260
Just get rid of those staffers, get rid of some of them lawyers over there too. That's what I do too.
00:49:33.980
Yeah. Okay. Talk about, okay. Now real quickly, Robin Voss, walk me through the people were so
00:49:40.380
jacked up today. We have him play two speakers of the house, one in Wisconsin, another down in
00:49:45.500
Texas. Give me an update on Voss. Yeah. I just talked to my team down in Wisconsin. And by the
00:49:51.660
way, the people on the ground in Wisconsin, they are so happy. Even the Democrats don't like this
00:49:56.340
guy. So Voss has, has 10 days. We turned in 10,800 signatures today. We only required his 6,000
00:50:05.040
some odd signatures. So Ross has, Voss has 10 days to challenge the signatures. Then if he, if he,
00:50:12.800
if he responds and says, okay, these aren't, these aren't good signatures, we have five days to
00:50:17.860
respond. Then he has two days to file a response. It goes back and forth for about seven days there.
00:50:23.640
And then the Wisconsin election commission has to issue a ruling within 31 days on whether to be a
00:50:29.320
recall or not. Now there's, they have to give a recall, if a recall election, if we have enough
00:50:34.740
signatures, which we're well over that. And the primary for the election, the recall primary is April 23rd.
00:50:41.260
Now, if Robin loses that, and by the way, any Republican can run. There is a, there is somebody
00:50:46.620
that people really like, but we're not putting it out yet right now for a couple of reasons.
00:50:50.540
But then when we put that out now, that person will win there. Then a month later, you have a
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general recall election with the Democrats. So yeah, it's very exciting.
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Step, step by step, step by step. You guys done an amazing job. This is in process. President Trump
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supports this a hundred percent. Mike, we'll talk about Supreme court tomorrow. I want to hold that.
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You've got so much going on Supreme court on Thursday, uh, to file. We'll talk all about
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that tomorrow. Give me a quick, people want to know where are my deals when they see Mike
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Lindell, they want to hear a deal. So give us a deal.
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Well, man, we keep giving the war room posse the deals because they helped us and we're here.
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I'm, this is a great day. I did my, I even brought up the war room posse in my speech. I did down in
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Florida today. Everybody said, you guys need to be watching. You need to be watching the war room.
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I believe at the last day, I think it might be a day and a half left of the, uh, of the open box
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These are specials. I didn't even know we had this because we're doing all this for the war room
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They bought them for the whole event, the bathrobes and, uh, but they don't get the
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prices you guys get. I'll tell you. So Pima a hundred percent. We'll see you tomorrow morning.
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Mike fight on stick around. We're going to walk through the battle map of the 2024 house.
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