Ronna McDaniel has been hired by NBC to be a political analyst on Morning Joe, a move that has been widely criticized by conservative media outlets, including CNN and Fox News, for what they call her "anti-democracy" views on the 2020 election.
00:00:00.340Ronna McDaniel. Well, she was on Sunday's Meet the Press. It was her first appearance since the NBC and since NBC News hired her is a political analyst.
00:00:10.380I know you won't be surprised to know that we've been inundated with calls this weekend, as have most people connected with this network about NBC's decision to hire her.
00:00:22.000We learned about the hiring when we read about it in the press on Friday. We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if we were, we would have strongly objected to it for several reasons, including, but not limited to, as lawyers might say, Ms. McDaniel's role in Donald Trump's fake elector scheme and her pressuring election officials to not certify election results while Donald Trump was on the phone.
00:00:49.940To be clear, we believe NBC News should seek out conservative Republican voices to provide balance in their election coverage, but it should be conservative Republicans, not a person who used her position of power to be an anti-democracy election denier.
00:01:09.760And we hope NBC will reconsider its decision. It goes without saying that she will not be a guest on Morning Joe in her capacity as a paid contributor.
00:01:21.380Did Joe Biden win the election fair and square?
00:01:23.520He won. He's the legitimate president.
00:01:25.760Fair and square he won. It's certified. It's done.
00:01:28.560John, it's not ideology. It's not ideology.
00:01:32.540There are a lot of conservative Republicans that serve for Donald Trump that I disagree with, but, but they stood up on January the 6th.
00:01:46.300They spoke out. I mean, it's this inverted pyramid. And again, taking one for the team, it's such a clarifying statement.
00:01:56.300I. Yeah. You know, one thing I've been struggling with, John, and I know you have, too.
00:02:01.780I've been struggling really, really hard and make it will tell you this for years, but especially as we're moving into this new election cycle on trying to understand.
00:02:12.120A lot of people that I grew up with in the church, a lot of people who are unrecognizable now when you talk politics, because I'll tell you the team, I guess it's how we define the team.
00:02:26.380For me, the team, it's a pyramid. It's God, country, constitution can, for me, conservatism. For others, it's being progressive. It's liberalism.
00:02:42.600And that's how it goes. Politicians and parties, for me, have always been at the bottom of, of, of that, that list.
00:02:57.080And for some reason, it's been inverted. So instead of God, country, constitution, conservatism, and then politicians and party, it's been inverted.
00:03:12.740And now it is Donald Trump personality. It's Donald Trump and everything flows from that.
00:03:20.480So when I guess I shouldn't, when I hear that, I, I, again, it's very clarifying. I guess I should, I guess I shouldn't be staying up trying to figure out what happened to them.
00:03:34.940This is what happened to them. They, they, they completely, their value system flipped and Donald Trump's on top and everything that's done goes through that filter and everything is justified.
00:03:48.920Everything he does is justified. Political violence is justified. His lifestyle is justified. His hatred is justified. His racism is justified.
00:03:58.920All the things my friends would have spoken out about when I was growing up, when Bill Clinton was president, when they were so shocked and stunned and deeply saddened by Bill Clinton.
00:04:11.020Now, now, the pyramid is flipped. And instead of God on the top and then country and constitution and conservatism, it is Donald Trump.
00:04:22.700And everything's inverted in the opposite direction, I suppose, all in pursuit of power.
00:04:29.960Shards of glass inside media's 12 splintering realities, though, of course, perhaps, perhaps this may be a bit relevant, but I, but it is important to note that we, you are right.
00:04:47.680We have so many outlets out there. We've got podcasts, we've got social media often, you know, producing sound and fury that signifies nothing.
00:04:56.920But it's not just the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, et cetera, et cetera.
00:05:02.540You even look at Fox News, who lost a great deal of their audience after the 2020 election for a fairly short while for simply giving their viewers the election results, for simply saying Joe Biden won.
00:05:19.120A lot of them left for Newsmax, left for other conservative networks.
00:05:24.200So it seems that people on the right and the left will find find their media outlets.
00:05:33.980And it's caused this splintering, as you've said.
00:05:38.080Yeah, no doubt. Like anything about it, like the shattering has been taking place for years.
00:05:43.560But I think it's fully broken now. And I think a good example is Fox News.
00:05:47.620Four years ago, if you kind of wanted to know what Trump thought or what kind of most Republicans who are going to vote thought, you can reliably go to Fox News and that might be it.
00:05:56.760The truth is, if you really want to know what Trump thinks or what a Trump supporter thinks, you're probably going to go to Steve Bannon's podcast or Charlie Kirk or go follow the social media feed of Donald Trump Jr.
00:06:09.920or go to true social places that most people, unless you're a real Trump or you're never going to go.
00:06:15.820You're not even going to understand the reality through the prism of where we would have looked at it a couple of years ago.
00:06:21.840Or you just read from a Wall Street Journal conservative editorial page editorial that used to be where you would figure out what conservatives thought.
00:06:30.260That's now a very, very slim part of the Republican Party.
00:06:34.440It's kind of the Mitt Romney part of the party and more sort of the conventional conservative.
00:06:39.340And that's just in the political sphere.
00:06:41.440You could be sitting at a table with a group of people and you might never really interact with their reality.
00:06:47.420It might be somebody who gets most of their news from an influencer they trust on Instagram or you could have a kid to your right who's who's following people on TikTok that you and I would think are aliens or names we've never heard of.
00:06:58.880And they're ingesting this content five, six hours a day.
00:07:02.540And I think it just makes it that much harder to really understand for a lot of people just like what's real and something's really hot in my area or other people paying attention to it.
00:07:11.400Yeah. And let's just dig into some of the issues that could turn this race looking ahead in these two states.
00:07:18.900First of all, on abortion and democracy, these are the two issues where Biden has an advantage.
00:07:24.560The only two issues where Biden has an advantage in in both states.
00:07:29.140Then you look at other issues, U.S. and world affairs, economy, immigration, Israel, Gaza.
00:07:34.360Trump has an advantage. And it's actually if you look at the Israel Gaza question, the fact that Trump has a 20 point advantage in Michigan, I mean, the world is upside down.
00:08:34.360It is Monday, 25 March in the year of our Lord, 2024. It's the beginning of Holy Week.
00:08:53.200Of course, you've just heard that is the world turned upside down.
00:08:58.120That was played by the British Army's band on 19 October in the year of our Lord, 1781, as Lord Cornwallis surrendered to the Continental Army.
00:09:09.760That was the the world turned upside down.
00:09:12.060And it has been turned upside down because of the MAGA movement and President Trump, who happens to be at the Moscow show trials today for a couple of hours.
00:09:19.760We're going to report on that. Jack Posobiec joins me.
00:09:21.960Jack, we got some very terrible news coming out of Ukraine.
00:09:26.200We'll get to in a moment. But I want to talk about just what's happened over the weekend, what's happening today.
00:09:31.760Jim Vander Heigh and Mike Allen, who are progressives.
00:09:37.980But those guys left the newsroom of The Washington Post to form Politico, sold it for a billion dollars to a German company.
00:09:44.540Then they started Axios. They've done financings at over a billion dollars for Axios.
00:09:49.420Two of the smartest guys about media and particularly always on the always on the cutting edge of new media.
00:09:54.980They had a huge piece Sunday morning. I think it came out shards of glass talked about the mainstream media absolutely collapsing.
00:10:02.680And you saw on this weekend with Chuck Todd, the meltdown at NBC News this morning.
00:10:07.440Morning, Joe telling us that we've turned the world upside down, that Donald Trump has now replaced God.
00:10:13.120And then you have Jim Vander Heigh actually talking about essentially the real America's voice lineup, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, the war room.
00:10:20.140Anyway, here's what happened is that Axios came out with a huge piece and talked about the new reality in media.
00:10:26.760And what they're doing is they're the mainstream media, particularly MSNBC, NBC News, Washington Post.
00:10:33.120They're all screaming this morning of why Trump is not being crushed. Why is Trump up in the polls?
00:10:37.560If you look at all the battleground states, if you do the real clear politics assessment, if you do the real clear politics average,
00:10:45.660Trump is up, I think, an average of three to five points in every battleground state.
00:10:49.780He's up eight points in Michigan. You saw Dana Bash right there with a full meltdown yesterday.
00:10:55.400She's sitting there going through the crosstabs. We tell you, Trump is leading sometimes by 15 or 20 points,
00:11:00.440whether this is the economy, national security, the invasion of the southern border.
00:11:04.800I mean, these numbers are almost impossible to come back from.
00:11:07.520And that's what they understand today in a New York City court.
00:11:10.920They've got a convergence of both this ridiculous show trial over the made up misdemeanors that Bragg has turned into felonies on the Stormy Daniels side,
00:11:20.840coupled with Letitia James getting ready to seize the assets, seize the assets of President Trump.
00:11:26.200That is both happening today, by the way, on the same day.
00:11:29.260I think the true social really begins its first full week of trading as a publicly traded stock.
00:11:34.920You've got all that convergence because that's all they've got.
00:11:37.620They've got they try to do the anti-democracy thing, insurrectionists to realize the polling that their coalition,
00:11:43.480particularly minorities, number one, just think that that is nonsense.
00:11:47.960It's not something paying attention to.
00:11:49.480What they want to know is about the terrible lived experience, the terrible lived experience of their of their existence, particularly with inflation.
00:15:50.400They never, ever, ever, ever in a billion years thought Donald Trump would come back to haunt them, come back to take down their apparatus, come back and not back off.
00:16:01.520Today in a court, a New York Superior Court in New York City.
00:16:06.320They're trying to put him on trial and show when this trial is going to start in the next 30 or 60 or 90 days about this bogus, stormy Daniels situation.
00:16:15.020At the same time, she's going to start, Letitia, Tish James is going to start seizing President Trump's assets.
00:16:21.300But the bad news they got over the weekend, their total grip on the American people, their role as enemy of the people with their grip on the narrative, has faded away.
00:16:35.020Jack, your thoughts, you're named, you and Charlie are named as two of the most prominent voices.
00:16:40.680Jim Vanders had said, Hey, if you just watch Fox or read the National Review or things like that and you think you know where the Trump movement's going,
00:16:47.780or you think you know where MAGA's going, you think you know about the driving force and back of changing the country,
00:16:52.980you are dead wrong because you've got to go to War Room, Jack Posobiec, you've got to watch Laura Loomer, Bruce Owitz,
00:17:01.060the Charlie Kirk Show, Don Jr., Tucker.
00:17:04.100That's where people are really getting the news.
00:17:46.280That's all reaching out to this audience.
00:17:48.540We did the appearance on TimCast on Friday night that went around the world.
00:17:53.140And the idea that people realize that there is something wrong in our country.
00:17:59.880There is something wrong about the direction of our country.
00:18:04.140And people are picking up books like The Great Darkness at Noon by the Hungarian Arthur Kostler.
00:18:10.780And people are reading these stories again because we faced similar situations to this before.
00:18:17.360We faced these communist uprisings before.
00:18:20.420And what we realize now and we put in through the new book is that what we're in now, Steve, is an irregular communist revolution.
00:18:29.700And it's irregular in the sense that it's not the civil war in the streets like the Russian Revolution or the Chinese Revolution.
00:18:38.540It's not even the Chinese Cultural Revolution where you're adding the 3G warfare.
00:18:42.720No, this is full-on fifth-generation warfare where micro-revolutions can be launched on you on a moment's notice.
00:18:49.340But you can walk down the street and it still seems like everything is generally normal as long as you're not in one of America's major cities right now.
00:19:08.260That's why people are going to search alternate news sources.
00:19:12.080That's why people are coming to real America.
00:19:14.400That's why they're coming to the war room.
00:19:15.660That's why they're coming to human events.
00:19:16.860That's why they're coming to Charlie Kirk because they want to hear people who have an understanding or somewhat, I would say, somewhat of an understanding of what's going on before we took this book on humans.
00:19:27.660We packed it all together by going through China Files, Chronicles of Revolution, understanding the systemized playbook of communists, of subversives, and cultural Marxists from thousands of years going all the way back to the Roman Civil War, coming to the French Revolution, and all of the uprisings in between to give us the synthesized style of political warfare that we are facing today.
00:19:51.080And if you want to understand that, it's incumbent upon you to listen to these programs daily.
00:19:57.400And it's that, but it's more like your book.
00:20:00.400It's what are we going to do about it?
00:20:02.040One of the things about this audience is very different than Foxy's other places.
00:21:07.440And we lay this out in Unhumans, a specific plan shows showing different nodes all the way up from what we call the great men of means all the way down to the local level, to the even the neighborhood level, the community level, the family level.
00:21:22.280We give people tools and a systemized approach to actually be able to respond to these things by taking action, by building networks.
00:21:32.260And I don't mean you have to build something like the war room or human events or write a book like Unhumans.
00:21:37.020You can even form small networks, small groups.
00:21:41.280It doesn't have to always be men, but small groups of men.
00:21:43.940I'm telling you, there's something when small groups of men get together that really drives the forces of history together.
00:21:50.600And by the way, the groups of moms getting together as regards to protecting the children and nurturing the children.
00:22:41.320And I want to make sure people understand the seriousness of what's happening now in Ukraine.
00:22:47.700Talk to us this morning about this massive air attack with hypersonic missiles.
00:22:52.720Did they take out the headquarters of the equivalent of the CIA of the Ukrainian government today?
00:22:58.180Well, Steve, there's a lot of competing what we call BDA battle damage assessment or bomb damage assessment that's been going on right now as regards to any of these situations, any of these bombing runs that happen anywhere in Kiev or even some of the ones that have taken place in Crimea and Belgorod, one of the Russian cities that's right across the border from Kharkov over the past 72 hours since the horrific Kroka city attack.
00:23:22.760And people need to understand that everyone on the Ukrainian side and even many, obviously the Russian side, have an interest in shading the truth, shading the truth out there.
00:23:35.340So Zelensky's got this tweet up that says it was like a school and it was full of children.
00:23:41.860You know, I'm sure he'll be saying it's an orphanage at one point.
00:23:44.740But then you go to the Kiev press and they must not have gotten the memo because the Kiev press, the big headline up there.
00:23:52.540And this really gets into, Steve, what I've been talking about for the last couple of months now, this massive split in the Ukrainian government, because the Kiev press is coming out and saying, no, this was the headquarters of the SBU, the Ukrainian CIA.
00:24:06.700This was one of their top sites, maybe not their overall headquarters, but one of their major top sites within Kiev.
00:24:12.400We are told that early this morning, our time, about 10 a.m., 11 a.m. Kiev time, Ukrainian media was reporting that over the past hour, Russian hypersonic missiles were striking multiple targets all across the Ukrainian capital of Kiev.
00:24:27.560According to those reports, the missiles were fired from the Crimean Peninsula.
00:24:31.180They covered a distance of 580 kilometers from Crimea all the way to Kiev.
00:24:37.420And people can look at the map and see how far that is in about three minutes.
00:24:41.600So we're talking about a speed of 7,000 miles an hour.
00:24:45.480These are the hypersonic missiles again.
00:24:49.400Reportedly, even an airfield was targeted, Steve.
00:24:52.060And the very lead here is that the United States is having a hard time.
00:24:57.180Those Patriot missile batteries that we gave to Kiev are having a hard time keeping up with this.
00:25:01.000And by the way, if you read the Wall Street Journal report to go look at Military Times, the United States has had a hard time trying to build these hypersonic missiles for something like 60 years, has attempted to build these.
00:25:14.720This technology has not been able to do so.
00:25:17.600So there's a real question here of deterrence, that essentially being that do we have the ability to defend the homeland against these type of strikes?
00:25:28.560And then in terms of reciprocity, reciprocity is another subject, by the way, which conservatives forgot about.
00:25:34.620Yeah, how is a carrier going to take this out?
00:25:39.180How is a boomer going to take one of these out if they're targeted at a carrier?
00:26:06.860Look, Steve, when's the last, and I say this as a guy who served at Guantanamo for a term, one tour down there, in the interrogation cell that, you know, you don't see ISIS fighters fleeing from an attack.
00:26:17.040You don't see ISIS fighters sitting in captivity and not, and going into the courtroom and not calling out al-Akbar.
00:26:23.400You don't see them making statements like these.
00:26:27.020You, you would see an ISIS fighter, their, their last move, of course, is that they're going to have that S vest, that suicide vest, and they're going to pull the dead cord.
00:26:34.840And they're going down, they're going boom with everybody else, wiring the building.
00:26:39.660When is the last time you saw a jihadist with an escape plan?
00:26:43.800And then you add to the next level, the escape plan of getting into Ukraine.
00:26:48.660Look, our interview from Saturday morning went viral around the world, millions of views.
00:26:55.280Those guys were never intended to get out of that forest.
00:26:57.720And whoever was meeting them on the other side of that border certainly wasn't supposed to let them get out of that forest and get into the hands of the authorities.
00:27:06.840Jack, where do we get your content, brother?
00:27:09.860Look, the book is Unhumans, Amazon, Barnes & Noble.
00:27:13.500Everyone can go get a copy, Human Events Daily.
00:27:15.780We will be up 2 p.m. Eastern right here today.
00:35:17.300Now, one of the attacks they're doing, we're going to get Dave Brett up here in a moment when we guarantee, when Denver guarantees me it's going to work.
00:35:25.400Because particularly on one of the key things that they're up is, one of the key things that they're doing is this invasion on the southern border.
00:35:34.880And, of course, over the weekend, the Democrats and even some of the Republicans are coming out and saying, oh, we've got to get to Ukraine.
00:37:10.940You've been weighed and measured and you were found wanting.
00:37:13.600You're essentially a coward because you didn't use the power you had, every ounce of power you have to shut this thing down and to secure the southern border from the invaders.
00:37:23.400It's still going on day after day after day.
00:37:26.120In the Senate, you actually put up some amendments that, for instance, the Democrats, including John Tester, voted to continue the flights in here deep into the United States.
00:37:35.320The Democrats want the the Democrats want the invasion.
00:37:37.720The reason the Democrats want it and the Republican establishment want it is that the money wants it.
00:38:28.960This is they're making they're actually trying to make this mathematically.
00:38:31.740Now, CNBC came on with the the head of macro macro means the kind of overview of geopolitical and demographic and technological forces in the world that drive big changes that governments respond to.
00:38:46.960Central banks respond to companies respond to macro came out and said it's absolutely it's the it's the most unreported story.
00:38:58.000Essential for the U.S. economy that the that the 10 million here and we need more.
00:39:04.100Now, where did she get this and where did CNN get it?
00:39:06.440Where Dave Bratt and I exposed it a couple of weeks ago, I was watching C-SPAN.
00:39:10.600We were monitoring C-SPAN, as we do here in the war room, to curate the best.
00:39:14.180And I noticed a presentation given by the Grundunes over the Congressional Budget Office.
00:39:20.640They had put out their annual, which Dave Bratt refers to all of them, they put out their annual report on the U.S. economy and their projections of where you think the economy is going.
00:39:30.280They weren't congressmen, but there were staff people there from the staffs asking questions.
00:39:34.880Some guy started asking about the model and the guy admitted, oh, yeah.
00:39:38.600Well, by the way, yes, we do have we've have in this model the 10 million illegal aliens, both on what they're doing to drive down labor costs and also what they're doing to consume Cheetos and Ho-Ho's and, you know, soda and all the stuff they're going to spend.
00:39:56.120Whatever money they get from the government and whatever they can panhandle and whatever they can get a job destroying the wages of the black and Hispanic working class in this country, of which on 60 Minutes, pals bragging about.
00:40:07.280Yeah, we've kind of we've got inflation under control.
00:40:09.960We think we've got wage inflation under control because of immigration.
00:40:13.340His words, the whole plan is to do that from the beginning.
00:40:15.880So you sit there last week and go, how did Johnson get 101 votes?
00:40:20.540The question is, how did we get what, 119 against it?
00:40:24.560The 119th said, hey, we can't do this anymore.
00:40:33.260The sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley, the corporatists, both U.S. corporations and the multinationals and the lords of easy money on Wall Street will collectively call them the paymasters of the Uniparty.
00:40:52.000They don't care about it being republic.
00:40:53.320Look, they don't care about, you know, everything that Kamala Harris and everybody says about Ukraine, their territorial integrity, their sovereignty and their self-determination.